The Controversy Of Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes

[@chameleonvisit3172]

Twin snakes was my first foray into metal gear series. I completed both endings and loved every second of it, still looking for another copy for my gamecube collection.

[@califaern3sto]

Ps1 version is better

[@SwEtchinmusic]

​@@califaern3stoI'm playing them both at the same time. I definitely like twin snakes better. But really, they're the same.

[@Maverick.D.]

@@califaern3stoOnly the soundtrack.

[@califaern3sto]

@@Maverick.D. no, everything.

[@myenemysenemy1043]

@@califaern3sto Sounds like it depends which one you played first. I can understand why those who played the original would have gripes with Twin Snakes. As somebody who played TS first, those gripes don't bother me at all, and it's probably my preferred version.;

[@JB-ve8qd]

They are both awesome and I would love to see twin snakes added to the master collection.

[@pepsidude8919]

Same here too!

[@ChrizHawk90]

Nah, The original is better.

[@TheInfiniteNine]

Nah standalone HD remaster for switch

[@TheVisitorSNAFU]

​@@ChrizHawk90 At least Twin Snakes is closer to the original vision.

[@pepsidude8919]

@@TheInfiniteNine I agree too!

[@Viciousverb]

I liked both versions. Played the OG first. The only complaint I had was that MGS 2 was on the ps2 and the controllers had pressure sensitive buttons so you could draw your weapon in first person but you didn’t have to shoot if you let off the button ever so slightly. Wasn’t the developers fault just what we had on different consoles back then. Wish I had kept the copy I had on GameCube. $40 at launch, it’s expensive now lol.

[@emilianotamezsauceda6497]

I still have my copy on my collection

[@nintendians]

never liked the pressure sensitivity face button concept as much as analog trigger in a 1st and 3rd person shooting game much. for me it just add too much frustrations. i think in mgs2 - where you suppose to use a enemy as a human shield and force him into the eye scanner to unlock the door to progress, i end up choking them to death instead. why can't we hold him while hold the circle button (i think) from behind while crouch, force him to scan his eyes to unlock and let go the button for solid snake to knock him out (kill him while he already knocked out - if you want too with a suppressed weapon or knife).

[@chaserush1382]

i thought the gamecube has analog triggers? anyway yeah, man, sucks not knowing wether or not your games will be valuable. the one regret i have is trading in my copy of paper mario for a 360 game. i lucked out on my copy of twin snakes cuz i bought it for 20$ at a local video store before they stored their gamecube collection. so whatever gamecube games you get, even if its not expensive at the time, just buy it. you never know.

[@nintendians]

@@chaserush1382 gamecube do have analog triggers - the "L" and "R" buttons only.

[@Terror0619]

The best way to look at twin snakes is pretend it's a retelling of the events by someone else. Word of mouth. You know how stories over time keep getting exaggerated more and more. That's what that game is. Its amazing

[@The_Weasel_]

It's a VR simulation of the Shadow Moses incident. You're really playing as Raiden playing as Snake

[@Terror0619]

@@The_Weasel_ that works as well

[@RoyleVegeta]

​@@The_Weasel_that is a awesome headcannon stolen

[@AlAensland]

or, well, from Otacon since he really likes anime so much ​@@The_Weasel_

[@douglasmonroe7417]

@@The_Weasel_ Well that's a interesting way to look at it.

[@ChoobChoob]

The way the dialogue turned out on the PS1 Metal Gear Solid was mostly the work of the localization team. I think they took some creative liberties which didn't fit with Kojima's vision for the game, so the changes were made for Twin Snakes. Mei Ling is voiced by the same person in both games, but rerecorded in a regular American accent in the latter.

[@BurtminguelaRivera-qr3oe]

Which sucks

[@bradlee6868]

@@BurtminguelaRivera-qr3oethe actress did a fake accent on the ps1 version

[@Johnnybomb1]

​@@BurtminguelaRivera-qr3oe Yeah, and you swallow.

[@superdrifter-1773]

@@bradlee6868for some reason her fake accent makes her performance better

[@NecroxProduction]

@@bradlee6868 it's called "acting"

[@billcook4768]

Nice to see RGT share some knowledge, rather than just (1) passing along the rumor of the day or (2) denouncing those passing along the rumor of the day.

[@WinstonWolfe21]

Very true

[@haru7star256]

(3) Saying he isn't a Nintentuber

[@LFC_since1970]

Whatever he does… RGT85 is just a great KZbinr 😂

[@soulages04]

Truee

[@markymark6229]

Yeah, I had to unsub cause I was tired off all his “hey I’m late but I’m gonna piggyback everyone else anyway”

[@Protomat]

I'd had someone point out to me a theory of the differences between the two versions. The original MGS1 is what really happened, but Twin Snakes is Otacon telling the story to Sunny as the two of them are raising her. All the bombastic additions are Otacon embellishing the facts for the sake of sounding more interesting.

[@afrofantom6631]

or that they are vr missions that raiden references in mgs2

[@Protomat]

@@afrofantom6631 Ooh, hadn't heard that one, that's a good one too.

[@SoulbentAnime]

Why would Otacon make himself out to be tripping all over the place? So clumsy. So no...

[@Protomat]

@@SoulbentAnime Hal kinda hates himself, it’d fit for him to cast himself as the bumbling sidekick to the action hero.

[@SoulbentAnime]

@Protomat nah headcanon is stupid. Nice try. The real answer was the director who Kojima told to do it in his own style was just trying to make Otacon look like a bumbling fool when he isn't.

[@StrykerOfEnyo]

Mei Ling is voiced by the same actress, Kim Mai Guest, but they dropped her previously used Chinese accent because her backstory didn't really support her still having an accent. Also, ALL of the dialog had to be rerecorded, so every actor needed to do their lines over again, plus some additional dialog. Fans had a big issue with Naomi Hunters performance in the Twin Snakes. It was done by Jennifer Hale, and she has always done a fabulous job, so many fans speculated that whoever did the voice directing wasn't the same person, so they didn't get a performance that matched the original. Some say it was early on her career, so she may not have even remembered much about her original performance. There are even other lines that fans said were better in the original, which has led to many saying the overall performances were better in the original. That where much controversy comes from, along with the new over-the-top cutscenes.

[@England91]

In general the audio quality of voice for what ever the reason was worst for twin snakes

[@XWXS2]

Damn played Tha game a few hours ago randomly on dolphin (yes I had it back then on gamecube) and now see you uploaded this video. for me personally twin snakes was better even though I grew up with the original and people complain about the voice or the over the top scenes but let's be honest every metal gear had over the top scenes I love twin snakes and I wish they would put it in the collection that is coming soon.

[@cristobalc5425]

Am so glad n lucky to still have my opened GameCube copy.

[@daamazinfatb0y752]

Mei Ling's voice actress is the same as the one in the original. Same for Naomi. They just had em drop the accent.

[@kcant65]

Having played both I much prefer Twin Snakes. The biggest letdown was no VR missions but the increase in quality of the rest of the package negates that.

[@kadosho02]

There were originally plans to include VR. But due to the limits of storage space on the GameCube disc format, made it a tricky situation. It would have been a 3 to 4 disc set instead of 2.

[@googlewolly]

​@@kadosho02They should've done it.

[@nuclearbeeberman]

I love the original and I love the Twin Snakes. Both are excellent and both have their strength and weaknesses. btw Twin Snakes cutscenes have been made by a japanese director who is famous for this sort of cutscenes so it had nothing to do with the hype around matrix (which was already years old when twin snakes came out)

[@LeeEverett1]

Me personally, the OG is superior in almost every way. The voice acting is fantastic even for a PS1 game whereas everyone sounds bored and like they didn't want to be there on remake. The soundtrack is more iconic and fits the tone better for each level/environment. The cutscenes IMO look way better than the over-the-top matrix crap they did in the remake. The only big advantage the remake has are graphics, which they simply just reused the MGS2 engine. Due to being able to hang and shoot in first person, the gameplay is incredibly unbalanced and makes it way too easy. It's a fun remake, but OG is far superior and memorable.

[@morrisseyguy6811]

"OG is far superior and memorable" for you anyway. I agree 100% i bought/played the OG black label (still have it) but my younger cousins who started with the CUBE think Twin S is superior and believe me I exposed them to the OG BLACK LABEL via PS2 on my CRT for the best possible experience. they think the OG black label version is trash ☠

[@doh4828]

Let’s agree to the fact that all of this really mostly originates from the ‘console wars thing’ as there really isn’t much difference at all apart from the graphics, the cutscenes, the MGS2 gameplay and some re-recording. It’s just Kojima’s redux version of an already awesome game . I don’t get why people mention the shift in tone, as MGS at least to me has always been an over-the-top sci-fi manga extravaganza. I find the OG Star Wars vs theatrical rereleases way more jarring in that respect. Oh well, after MGS3 I was kinda done with the series anyway.

[@F7Horror]

​@@doh4828 Nah, it doesn't. I had a Gamecube and bought TTS with excitement and was incredibly disappointed with it. The RE1 remake was also a GC exclusive and got nothing but high praise.

[@markasscop]

mei ling is of chinese origin but she was raised in america, it makes complete sense why she would have a more american accent

[@lupinrangerjoker]

So no mention of the music? Mgs1 music is legendary and has feeling. The only thing that twin snake did that sounded decent was psycho mantis theme. People have shown cutscenes from Twin snakes that would have been better with the mgs1 soundtrack. Hell they could have made cover versions of the mgs1 songs.

[@AnalogFunktion]

Thank you! Is everyone Tone deaf in here? Harry Gregson Willams should have never touched the MGS1 score. They should have got the same Japanese person from the first one. The music literally made the atmosphere of Shadow Moses come alive and feel cold and gritty and metallic. Twin snakes would have been fine if they didn’t change the music, the iconic GAME OVER screen, and that amazing original opening Title sequence that panned to Solid Snakes face and the main menu below while (and once again) the iconic opening title sequence MUSIC plays! I can’t tell if RGT is baiting without mentioning the music.. or if he’s actually that dense? And nobody in comments mentioned it until I got finally got down below to your comment. I just made a comment of my own about the music too. Music Supervisor on that project sucked. I wonder if the music supervisor was Kojima? He probably didn’t want to burn bridges with Harry Gregson Williams by not hiring him. Harry should have know better not to deviate so far from it.

[@hyrulehero07]

I love Metal Gear Solid The Twin Snakes over the original 😎👌

[@__Weasel__]

Twin Snakes is the best MGS game. It should've been in the new collection.

[@awesomereviews1561]

The Revolver Ocelot fight is not an issue at all since, in both game, you can just sprint behind him and shoot at the same time and you kill him super easily regardless.

[@EduFirenze]

Twin snakes is great, played the original, played the remake, both awesome

[@JC-vt6ln]

I'm glad you share the same passion for metal gear solid as much as I do

[@nintendians]

haven't play the original much, but "metal gear solid: the twin snake" improved over the original and despite the changes, it plays well.

[@thejman5683]

So to answer your question about Mei Ling. Yes that is the original actress. Fun fact: Snake’s Voice Actor David Hayter gave up half of his salary so Konami could afford to bring the original actors from the first game back for the remake. While that did happen. One character got Recast. Gray Fox who was voiced by Greg Eagles is now voiced by Rob Paulson. Who is known to voice 80s Raphael and 2012 Donatello from the Ninja Turtles Franchise. And THE MOST POWERFUL FICTONAL CHARACTER EVER….. Carl Greg Eagles does still do a voice in the game but as the much smaller role as the DARPA Chief

[@Halfax7]

The rumor I always heard was that "this game" was the VR mission for Raiden. Hence, why there are so much jumping around and matrix things.

[@fdanims]

I loved Twin Snakes more than the original. Such a great game 👍

[@Maverick.D.]

Same.

[@ChrizHawk90]

No. Original is still better.

[@fdanims]

@@ChrizHawk90 it's good...but not better 😉

[@ChrizHawk90]

@@fdanims The Original game is a better game than Twin Snakes.

[@fdanims]

@@ChrizHawk90 😉👎

[@ryanalmeida5533]

Any updates on the Benz?

[@BrilliantK]

Absolutely no controversy. It was a great game with great graphics. I love and cherish it. First video game I ever bought brand new.

[@Ak3ruz]

This is the best retro remake ,well done

[@pastiesandagstring]

The differences really aren’t a big deal to me. The ocelot fight can be easier but if you really want the challenge it’s not like you have to use first person. Everything else is such a minor thing. The graphical upgrade given to the entire game still outweighs that. It looks so much better than the original and I like the added mgs 2 mechanics. I think they’re just nice qol improvements over the original. Outside of the option of using them against ocelot there’s nothing about them that really changes or ruins the game play. You’ll still get the same story and experience of mgs1 from playing twin snakes.

[@RunsWithKniefs]

The idea that the cutscenes are the source of the controversy is the dumbest thing to me when I find the MGS2 based additions to be much more aggregious to work against the game. The thing that i find no one ever brings up that is the main grievence beyond the FPS breaking the game, is the floors. Seemingly random floors were made to be "creaky" so youd alert people because the grey block on the beige floor was deemed to be a walk surface. That all being said. TwinSnakes is definitely over hated and if it were included im a later volume of the master collection I would still be 100% for it. The people I think are objectively WRONG are the ones who think Twin Snakes invaildates MGS1.

[@NASCAR_Gamer]

Thanks for including the Snake throwing the grenade down the gun barrel of the tank scene. I laughed so hard at that on my first play through. Like that wasn’t in the original! 😂

[@SoulbentAnime]

Me who actually liked that scene. Was pretty hilarious when he knocks out the guy on fire

[@Malaka1689]

You failed to point out the BIGGEST difference and iconic things that made the whole aesthetic of the OG version come together and that's the OST. Twin Snakes destroys itself by this single handed move

[@jeremykopatz4760]

What do you know, I just found my GC copy is terrific condition three days ago!

[@AnalogFunktion]

Uh. Twin Snakes F’ed the MUSIC up! and The iconic Game Over screen! and the opening main title sequence! The original music literally made the atmosphere of Shadow Moses. It was gritty and cold and metallic because some Japanese guy used 4 differently tuned Anvil samples from the Roland SR-JV80-02 ROMpler orchestral expansion card for the JV-2080. Harry Gregson Williams should have never touched the score in Twin Snakes. They should have kept the original score that some Japanese guy made on the PS1. The MGS1 psx Score made the atmosphere! They ruined the whole atmosphere by changing the Music and the Game Over Screen. It’s that simple. Why wasn’t it mentioned?

[@MrRed88]

Just a friendly reminder, Kojima never said that Twin snakes was how he Initially wanted MGS1 to be but was unable to achieve due to technical limitations. I hope this lie stops one day because it's a pathetic defense by twins snakes fanboys to deflect valid criticism. Kojima never said this lie once. Not in a single interview, article, nothing. In fact, if you look up an interview he did for an Nintendo power in 2003, he actually says the opposite at one point. The other reminder is about how the rest of the series is not over the top like twin snakes, case in point, you never see snake do any of these ridiculous cartoonish flips over all his problems in any other game. Every super over the top moment everyone is going to cite is either done by a character with obvious cybernetic enhancements as the excuse or a character that's not meant to have how they do their incredible feats explained to create some type of creepy unnerving aura and mystique around them. In fact, this too can be proven objectively false with a bit of research when you find out Kojima is the one who told director Kitamura to make the games cutscenes more in line with Kitamura's movies instead of what Kojima would normally do. Proof positive that twin snakes's tone and style is purposely different than the rest of the series.

[@JackaryD]

I don’t know what people expected - the dude that directed the cutscenes was the same one that did the Japanese movie “Versus” (Ryuhei Kitamura). Obviously Kojima loves film and working with individuals in the space…and also, knowing that, the style would be different.

[@RyanTheEatingwarrior]

So this game, I loved it. I loved the OG Metal Gear Solid. The updates of game were great, now the decision to take the route of adding over the top anime type comedy/action was its biggest set back. I think if they stayed true and just remade it with the updated graphics and game play I feel that this would be the go to for anyone wanting to go back to play MGS. But they wanted to do Nintendo things lol so most people I know go back to the PS1 version due to it being more serious in nature. Just my 2 cents, I love all things Metal Gear (up to MGS 4) lol

[@Vulpas]

MGS3 was where I started to lose interest, the series peaked with MGS2. MGS4 is just "ok", and MGS5 is a joke.

[@RyanTheEatingwarrior]

@@Vulpas I pretend MGS5 never happened lol it had potential but the Konami/Kojima disagreement wrecked it imo, it felt unfinished.

[@JoeJohnsonJunior]

So the whole accent thing has been explained before. The actress for Mei Ling and Naomi dropped their accents because Kojima never wanted them. He wanted everyone to speak perfect clear English. But, the localization director decided to add these details. When they got back together to rerecord the lines in Twin Snakes that localization director was fired. He changed a lot of lines and disagreed with Kojima on a lot of things. Guy sounded like a prick they way he messed with things during production like arguing over villain names and such. But Kim Mai Guest (Mei Ling) and Jennifer Hale (Naomi) were the original voice actors. They didn't change her voice from a chinese to white woman. It's the same chick that had used a fake accent at one point and they decided to drop it because it was never a part of the vision.

[@TBrizzle01]

I hope that this game is on the second legacy collection. Volume 1 has Snake's Revenge, so there's a chance.

[@brett6239]

Back in the day there was a lot of butthurt with Playstation fanboys that Twin Snakes was a GameCube exclusive. That seemed to me where the criticism started. They started saying skip it, the original is better. It wasn't. But it stuck. Much like the Resident Evil remake situation. Only recently have Playstation fanboys got over their butthurt about that one and crowned it the masterpiece that it is. And always was.

[@Mateoski97]

Probably because of the 2011 rereleases of RE1R 😅

[@jarde1989]

I 100% believe that the vast majority of hate that this game receives stems from the fact that it is a GameCube exclusive Yes, there are differences… But those differences were exaggerated by peoples hate for the GameCube at the time

[@3Overhaus]

Nothing to do with the console. Fans just hated the gameplay,voice performances and stupid cutscenes.

[@therealjaystone2344]

@@3Overhausespecally when you can’t play as Snake all the time

[@Mateoski97]

​@@3OverhausActually it did, because none of you were bitching about MGS2 and no Nintendo fans were bitching about MGS2 or 3 being PS2 exclusives at the time. The same thing happened with the RE1R before it got it's HD rereleases. Shut up with your garbage excuses.

[@MyopianGaming]

I lived in Korea, where we didn't get jack shit for American games. I ordered a used one complete with manual for 120 bucks from Amazon, it was the only one online at the time, and when it finally arrived at the post office, the package was ripped open and replaced with some lady's heart medication. I just wanted to share my Twin Snakes experience.

[@fredzetina6671]

MGS Twin Snakes is a masterpiece. Loved the cutscenes and how they made Snake appear super human

[@riony6955]

That's why I hated it. Super Snake

[@Mateoski97]

​@@riony6955But he IS super human. That's the point, he, Liquid, and Solidus are supposed to be clones of Big Boss, who is the world's greatest soldier.

[@armorvil]

@@Mateoski97 but Big Boss doesn't do superhuman things like jumping on a moving rocket in MGS3, Peace Walker or MGS5...

[@JackCrossSama]

@@armorvil Snake fights giant robots, how else would he beat these robots if he didn't have high reflexes?

[@bizarroeddie1]

we can't even jump with Snake on the game but on the cutscenes he can jump 20 feet and step on missiles. It's stupid. the original is somewhat grounded, it finishes with a high speed car chase and an accident. Super human stuff, right?

[@305SEGA305]

I still have my copy 🎮

[@chad12345678]

Give us this in the metal gear solid collection I loved it!

[@666_N_94]

I never played the OG but I played Twin Snakes and loved it!

[@fgfhjfhjfbhfghf5771]

Said it before I'll say it again. For the effort of doing a full remake of MGS1 they could've and should've just done Gamecube ports of MGS2 and 3

[@pad9x]

watching these clips here, i can see how there is so much influence from John Woo in the camera work lolz

[@RetroGamerBB]

I love the game.

[@valentinobambino6728]

Keep in mind that the idea of remakes wasn't as big as it is nowadays. Back then we only expected cooler graphics and music. So my first impressions with TS were amazing because I didn't own a PS2 at the time.

[@davidpliskin3330]

This is the best content on KZbin currently imo.

That's because he's a Nintendo KZbinr

[@rj_4mp100]

….

[@Vulpas]

It's good but not the best, Strafefox, Game Sack, Console Wars, etc are better.

[@ibprodigy05]

Finally a RGT video that I don't have to skip

[@HyruleSwordsmen]

Really dig the retro talk keep 'em comming

[@Glamosapien]

For me the weirdest thing was the music the original soundtrack had such an atmospheric you didnt get in twin snakes but i can enjoy both

[@kerank4157]

this intro music is the same as triple jump's. what is it originally from though?

[@strawberrykicker2]

Snake wasn't working for Foxhound just fyi

[@corey2232]

This was a great game, shame it's not on the MGS collection.

[@jeremykopatz4760]

I thought another change with TS was the soundtrack in some parts. Maybe that’s wrong but I thought I remembered that. I do like how they added the main theme song from MGS2 into the remake (forget the name but is from the main MGS2 trailer). That was the one music change that I jumped up and down for. That theme song is just so good!

[@LehartPro]

The changes the soundtrack for when Sniper Wolf dies and it just doesn’t hit the same as the original

[@jeremykopatz4760]

@@LehartPro that’s it!! Thanks!

[@JayCruz49er]

I don’t know why the switch wouldn’t have this version of MGS 1 wouldn’t be part of the collection. It’s a GameCube exclusive. It should be there for sure.

[@blainemorris6556]

Yo, how did I not know you have this channel?! Dope pivot.

[@marciorodrigo6863]

I love the Twin Snakes version

[@studio_firefly]

I've always considered "Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes" the Hollywood version of "Metal Gear Solid." Since I've had that mindset, it's help me enjoy the game a lot.

[@jarde1989]

I 100% believe that the vast majority of hate that this game receives stems from the fact that it is a GameCube exclusive

[@khishanpersaud1218]

Big facts

[@m7gh827]

yup

[@sigmazero3325]

That’s because you’re solipsistic. I had both versions of the game and I enjoyed them both, and I still judge TTS to be an inferior, goofy mess. Just because you can’t wrap your head around rational adults capable of disagreeing with you doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

[@chloescoolcreations9719]

I absolutely loved twins snakes as much as the original 10/10 would pay full price again

[@MikeN_LA]

I was excited for it when it released and I wasn’t disappointed at all it still has a place in my collection.

[@knux5796]

twin snakes was great, i had no issues with the over the top matrix stuff that was added. i didnt even know so many ppl disliked it

[@doh4828]

The OG is great. Twin Snakes is awesome. I suspect much of the gripe of that time came from the fact that it was a ‘ hardcore’ exclusive title on a ‘kiddy’ console and beautiful to boot. MSG 3 Snake Eater certainly didn’t pull back to a more ‘realistic’ MGS (as if it ever was) Twin Snakes now is one of the Gamecube’s crown jewels.

[@Mateoski97]

EVA's motorcycle stunt 😅

[@mrhobs]

Thanks for explaining that. Always wondered why this game always seemed to get the side eye when talking about GameCube exclusives. (Or maybe just indifference.)

[@meatsloth333]

I give my wife the solid snake. And then the liquid snake

[@lucho3410]

I prefer this game over the OG version. The story is still there, the shocking aspect still hits, and the gameplay is FAR superior to the OG. Severely underrated version imo

[@Marc_Araujo]

They made it too ridiculous...especially with Snake doing backflips off mid-air missles.

[@lucho3410]

@@Marc_Araujo it's a video game!!

[@LeeEverett1]

You must have grew up playing the Remake over the OG then. The voice acting is shit compared to the original, the matrix over the top cutscenes takes away from the experience, and the gameplay mechanics from MGS2 made the game way too easy and unbalanced

[@therealjaystone2344]

@@LeeEverett1the remake hasn’t coming out yet

[@lucho3410]

@@LeeEverett1 to each their own. And no, I beat the OG version about 20 times and still play it till this day. I actually got into it from the pizza hut demo disc (which I wish I never threw it out). But I recently played the twin snakes version on my Odin pro and was blown away. It's not perfect by any means but considering it was a GameCube release it's a better version for me. Btw I never had a GameCube hence why I play it through emulation

[@kobra6660]

They will never include this game in the trilogy collection because of legal complications but imagine how good this would look

[@Jmask5]

Honestly its way better than the original. Most of the complaints are people who were butt hurt it didn't release on PS2.

[@HotSizzleTV_]

I don’t understand why this didn’t give us this version of the game with the collection. I hope with the next volume this game comes with it.

[@Seke8888]

I have this remake for GC but can you actually download this game for nintendo switch etc. and if not why?

[@C.J...]

Substance and Sustenance are great MGS titles with the mod upgrades.

[@RenzoTravelsTheEarth]

For people who prefer the Twin Snakes cutscenes: check out a movie called “Azumi” by Ryuhei Kitamura he actually directed the cutscenes in Twin Snakes which is a fact I never hear people talk about.

[@bjornvanderlinden8793]

Versus is my favorite of his movies.

[@jay1177]

Best game on the GameCube imo

[@zeroarsenal7029]

How can I play the original version??

[@mr.yanganagi7479]

The missing original soundtrack got me the most about The Twin Snake.

[@steakcrust558]

Didnt mention the hanging mechanic that trivializes some of the stealth rooms

[@pepsidude8919]

MGS: The Twin Snakes is one of my most favorite GameCube games as well as one of my most favorite games overall in the Metal Gear series and I would really love to see an HD port or something of this game next hopefully for the Nintendo Switch, if possible, which would be so awesome.

[@brentvance9090]

Dude intro music is 🔥

[@BrettMedlock]

Been wanting to play this

[@mysteryman703]

I've been a huge fan of metal gear since I was a very little kid and it confuses me why people are mad about the tonal shift when I feel like that is the tone of the rest of the games

[@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421]

0:12 Tf? Did you just call a GameCube entry "retro"?

[@FreddyD177]

One of the greatest game experiences I ever had got it used when I was just a kid my pops didn't really wanna buy it cus he thought it was a shooter like GTA but I convinced him it wasn't and he bought it mainly cus it was cheap and this would be my first Rated M game and it went from me being skeptical and bummed out about the gameplay then I realized how violent and the first person in it was I realized I was playing a whole movie I loved the experience especially with all the badass characters

[@sinchman1]

The Twin Snakes for the GameCube is the best version. All this negative feedback were from Sony dick riders who were angry that MGS TS wasn't coming to the PS2.

[@Unclesteve16]

Twin snakes was better! Then msg1 I get the nostalgia, it’s just better.

[@Shepherdservices317]

I'm hard-core about MGS1, and I can say that when I played twinsnakes I was in love with it. I even loved that there was a game cube in the office room where you meet Grey fox. Yeah the cut scenes were a little over the top, but who cares. He'll look at mgs 3, 4, tell me those cherishes and cut scenes aren't over the top. I prefer a darker more serious tone. But certainly after playing this and going back to ps1, that camera angle is horrible. It makes the game way more difficult than need be

[@zero195]

I mean Vamp did some crazy stuff like this in MGS2, and in 4, along with Raiden. The Ocelot fight didn't bother me, as it made it an easier fight, as it should, given it's the first boss battle in the game. As for Mei Ling, its the same voice they used for the rest of the series, probably to get rid of the accent they gave her in the OG PS game. Overall, the changes didn't change anything tone wise, other than showing off how bad ass Snake was, and why he was chosen for this mission.

[@whoevertf]

Thanks for the short concise video. All I wanted was answers. Bam. Got them. Excellent.

[@thegamingchef3304]

I originally sold my PS2 to get a GameCube to play the Resident Evils. I was glad when they ported this. As many know, the GameCubes library is pretty small. So getting a mature game like this was great. Exclusives were still a big deal back then.

[@Landonio]

One of my favorite games of all time

[@harleyspawn]

The Twin Snakes didn't just have updated visuals, it was built on the same engine as MGS2. They also re-recorded all the voices in the game (well, the humans) because of how poor the original recordings were. There's also no Japanese voice recording, it was just subtitled in Japan (which probably annoyed fans of Snake's voice actor back home). Objectively, it's a strange remake where the first person view can ruin some of the fixed camera angle challenges, but it's the only way to play an absolutely beautiful and technically superior version of MGS1.

[@LeeEverett1]

Even though those recordings were "poor", the acting was actually superior in the original.

[@TheeCambion]

​@@LeeEverett1He's talking about the the actual Audio quality. The PS1 didn't have a great audio quality, compared to GameCube and above. When they tried to just port the raw audio into the GameCube you could actually hear the cars and trucks from the street. They didn't record everything in a professional studio it was literally some dudes house.

[@LeeEverett1]

@@TheeCambion They couldn't clean up the noise though? Because I neve heard vehicles and I played with headphones on when it came to PS3.

[@budthecyborg4575]

@@TheeCambion Funny thing with modern tech you could probably remove the background noise from the MGS1998 audio. But it's pointless anyway since Twin Snakes completely obsoletes the original.

[@milesfernando]

​​@budthecyborg4575Y ou can, I actually tried with Adobe AI and it sounds amazing But you're wrong, the original MGS is superior

[@e-diddy9802]

The over the top action, made this game way better than the original.

[@budthecyborg4575]

Kojima himself told the animation choreographer to make the cutscenes more action heavy. Twin Snakes is closer to Kojima's original vision than the 1998 release.

[@iancoop4537]

I am glad I held onto my CIB copy, especially because it isn't being included in the upcoming collections Konami is releasing. While I do like the original version on the PS1, this was my first experience with MGS and it left a lasting impression.

[@vincentvega3093]

There is always the rom.

[@fedricojgarza464]

It only Vol 1 metal gear Collectons dude

[@tylerperk132]

Loving this 2nd channel

[@patrickmaher5135]

I loved both version. Got a ps1 for Christmas and on the demo disk was a video for mgs1,i thought it looked amazing! Bought a playstation magazine a few months later, i think it was issue 42 in the uk, which had a playable demo..it blew my mind! A video game which was basically a playable movie. Before hand video games were playable cartoons in my mind, as a kid a least. Needless to say i got the full game when it released, and it was unparalleled at the time. A masterpiece. I have it on ps1, pc and gamecube ie. Twinsnakes and i will buy the new remaster collection version when it releases. Maybe its a case of you had to be there at the time to fully appreciate its ground breaking impact but nevertheless i recommended playing mgs1 whatever way you can.

[@EduFirenze]

I relate a lot, I remember watching the end credits with the real world videos and thinking, this is more than a game

[@Subhuman_Gamer]

That's the only one I haven't played and I'd love for it to be in the collection.

[@thomassencindiver]

If you prefer Twin Snakes because it was your first game, as it is with many first games. That is perfectly fine. If you prefer it just because, X and Y that is totally valid. But there is no argument when you delve more into voice acting, the direction, etc. That the OG is just better. And that is also perfectly fine. Just like how I personally love the Resident Evil movies with Milla Jovovich (yes all 7 of them) but those movies are objectively terrible in many regards, doesn't mean I can't enjoy them or like them

[@Mateoski97]

The OG was my first MGS game back in 2000 and I still prefer Twin Snakes over it.