The Cool Creep Spread Trick to Cover the ENTIRE Map - StarCraft 2

Bringing back this old zerg creep trick!
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[@derekoyama501]

I like how the cancel on the hatch costs 75 minerals which was the cost of a creep colony back in sc1.

[@fovarberma752]

1:25 in. Back in WoL (haven't played for a while), I used a poop/carrylord to drop a queen and creep tumor around empty base locations. It would require detection and a bit of attack power to snuff out, buying me time, and tell me where my opponent would expand next. Plus, it was even less resource / pop cap, on the long run, than burying a single zergling, and if your tumor had spread out, you could spread it back in after a scan. I have a bit of Florencio in me.

[@Keltix1991]

I've always wanted to watch a game like that where a queen and overlord are used to drop creep tumors wherever they want around the map. I've never been able to find a video that shows it in practice though.

[@erictripps125]

I feel like taking your third as your natural for this strategy would be good. Give your starting creep spread a bit more reach.

[@jkkim6928]

That’s a 300 IQ play I’d say go for the 4th base as a natural = 400 IQ move right there

[@MatheusGomes-ej3mr]

@@jkkim6928 i saw what you did there

[@fotgreckless]

Opponents natural 1500iq play give or take 100 depending on map

[@erictripps125]

If we really want to talk 4d chess PiG should just spend the day on ladder as zerg alternating between hidden bases with creep spread rush to 1 base nydus.

[@jkkim6928]

There’s proxy hatch. And then there’s proxy creep 😂 Pig, this was so awesome, and for next challenge, can you please do the same thing but try to build an evo or hatch at enemy’s future base location? ggwp

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

11:23 wow TIL about how to fix unhotkeyed hatcheries. Thanks PiG!

[@partingmist8550]

Spreading creep is the actual win objective of SC2. The win screen is just put there to distract you from your true goals.

[@freppie_]

solid move mate on those reapers at the start.

[@hawianpunch28]

Watching you say "if you connect the tips, it makes a baby happen" with serial killer seriousness made me laugh really hard. Thanks.

[@iverstiz]

me and all my homies touch tips

[@HolyBunny]

Omg I've wanted to see this for so long!!!

[@travismiller758]

Dude, I wonder how much visible confusion was on their face, and how much they secretly wanted to REEEEEEEEEEEE

[@wally19]

I love your videos dude, keep it up.

[@lupusprobitas]

Hmm, what about going gas, hatch, pool, and then lair before ling speed? Sounds crazy, but so does hatch cancel :-) With lair, you can place multiple forward creep positions using overlord poop. Might also mindgame the opponent Protoss or Terran a bit if they scout the lair, and perhaps expect an early cheese like a nydus rush, a big win if they turtle while you just chill, spread creep everywhere and macro up.

[@lupusprobitas]

You could also double down on the hatch cancel, instead of moving queen and drone home after the first forward creep spot, move them to the other side of the map and do it a second time... hoping they aren't killed on the way. That's how you indeed might cover the ENTIRE map :-) Might lower your win-rate, but if you just move the goalpost to spreading creep rather than winning, then you win almost every match! Though if you just getting a single person to leave each day, out of annoyance, it probably makes up for it. :-)

[@MrManlioivan]

TLO used to do this in pro matches. I haven't seen this in a few years.

[@KJM3SMG]

I suppose you brought your streaming equipment here in the USA to continue here? Great seeing u at Dreamhack my man

[@steveloomis1]

Me at 25:15 "Jesus, how long has it been since he's spread any creep?!?!"

[@DonYablos]

For years we fought the smooth brain, only to wake up one days and realise....we are the smooth brain 🤣

[@darrenridley423]

Pig with the ling bane ravager infestor corruptor broodlord uber creep build, sounds easy enough...

[@L76_Official]

I don’t know if you respond to comments here but how come you so often go for ravager ling bane vs bio?

[@glados4765]

Have you seen uThermals new Zerg to GM strat? It's literally something out of Florencio Files with some of the games and the proxy hatches.

[@Adam-qh1ew]

How fast can this be done with lair/overlord? Saves the minerals on the hatch and cancel, but might be too slow…

[@jkkim6928]

Extremely slow

[@BogdanTestsSoftware]

Crushing Terrans with Zerg feels so satisfying. Zerg is such an underdog, esp because air defense is so limited in speed/mobility. Waiting for more hidden hatcheries to spread creep and macro!

[@johnnydeppsky3510]

It really isn’t . Zergs can defend any air with Queens and spores . You must be gold league or something

[@jkkim6928]

Zerg is weak in lower leagues for sure

[@SeanofAllTrades]

@@johnnydeppsky3510 The amount of micro Pig had to use to counter this a-move terran is completely ridiculous. This game is unbalanced. Zerg has to use significantly more micro to counter low-micro attacks from their opponents, constantly. Meanwhile, Terran and Protoss build a wall and ignore any options Zerg have for harassment/causing the opponent to micro.

[@johnnydeppsky3510]

@@SeanofAllTrades it’s a silly argument. Try microing marines vs banes. Each race has its pluses. Queens are super good and cost efficient early game. If you send your banshee without control you do 0 damage

[@voltsnbolts8879]

@@SeanofAllTrades you think that multi prong drop harass was a moving?!? You definitely do not play this game. I was thinking how well the terran was keeping on the pressure, zerg is only bad at lower levels, just like protoss is only op at lower levels. Edit* again, you clearly dont play. Queens literally shut down all early game aggression by terran and protoss, and are widely considered the best unit in the game. Zerg can also wall.. the playstyle is just different,

[@timreutemann9223]

Queen Nydus is also very good for the spread.

[@mikelafferty5253]

Making him use all his scans on creep and go an invisible unit

[@TheMuffinman191]

Make the man build a raven lmao

[@transitcombine9057]

@@TheMuffinman191 yeah, but in high Elo is very rare

[@rozmarinideas5340]

Can anyone tell me the point of 3 rax reaper? I've never understood it, it doesn't ever seem to do game winning damage and it's really committed. Like, I've never even seen Byun or Clem beat a zerg with it, though I haven't seen Byun pre-reaper nerf games.

[@jkkim6928]

In pro level, zerg can easily defend. But in amateur level, a couple misclicks can get you to lose zerglings and queens and that snowballs super hard

[@TheMuffinman191]

It snowballs really hard if the zerg fucks up at all. A good defence shuts it down but is HAS to be good. If not then you get run over by reapers as they’ll just start fighting your spines

[@PashaSlavaUkraine]

amazing amazing AMAZINGGGG

[@dominickoster5057]

TOUCH THOSE TIPS

[@quintyss1290]

Is making an Overlord carrier upgrade too inconvenient/expensive to make so you can transport a queen and worker around?

[@rozmarinideas5340]

Well you'd also need Overlord speed otherwise walking with the queen is faster, and factoring the time to research, the queen walk is still faster. Also overlord speed delays lair, which delays the ability of Overlords to poop creep.

[@jkkim6928]

Lair is extremely late compared to queen walk

[@drewskiwest5284]

how is your gpu 0ºC what about your PSU

[@jasiucasic]

If you rush nidus you can just bust creep all over the map and move Queens around instantly

[@steveloomis1]

"It varies massively. They're always all within 100 MMR of each other." Does "massively" mean something different in Australia?

[@arbitervildred8999]

thumbnail at 4:19

[@liebe6997]

wooopwoopwooop!!!!

[@ekspert12340]

Hello there PiG :)

[@emissarygw2264]

What about pooperlords?

[@Oktokolo]

Not even remotely as cheesy as the swarmhost rush. So maybe add swarm hosts - or can you make it look like a zerg "canon" rush to force a response that you then can exploit?

[@JohnSmith-mo6re]

Why wouldn't you just take the overlord to start producing creep instead of building a hatch then escaping??

[@broome090]

I was wondering the same thing. Seems better

[@259]

You need a lair to make overlords spread creep and that takes way too long to get to compared to walking a queen and drone.

[@JohnSmith-mo6re]

@@259 Well I checked the game time, you can get a lair in 3 mins, he was starting creeping generally around 4 mins, so I think it's a lot faster doing lair. 1 minute at this point in the game is a huge difference.

[@tyrellwreleck4226]

Proof that you need 11 fingers to play as zerg

[@2Blunt2Die]

put queens in overlords for creep plz i wanna see that

[@loraxak]

He has done that before.

[@paulmualdeave5063]

Banelings OP or do I suck? :P

[@TheMuffinman191]

Suck. Banelings are expensive for what they do and get hammed by good unit positioning. Split more, die less.

[@segajukebox]

This is so disgusting...i love it!

[@Ctenoid]

29:30 PiG: "Let's see if it works ..." Narrator: "It did not work"

[@sc2youtube744]

Does pig really main zerg?

[@smokingslimsilver]

😀

[@Redtornado6]

Why not just send an overlord and get a lair?

[@jasiucasic]

Why don't you just rush lair and use the overlord pooper move

[@peterdaly6173]

immediate question.. why do the proxy hatch cancel.. why not just use the overlord creep to start it? minor delay, but much better way to do it

[@rivershy]

Real question: why don't pro zergs do this?

[@Oktokolo]

I guess, it slows your economy a bit and also costs APM while it normally _shouldn't_ work so good at making the opponent waste his mule energy (ravens exist).

[@TheMuffinman191]

Apm intensive, costs money and doesnt really give that much of an edge for it.

[@Dima80F]

This shit makes me dizzy.