The Corporate Origins of Colonialism: The East India Company

Guest: William Dalrymple, author of The Anarchy : The East India Company, Corporate Violence, and the Pillage of an Empire

[@ahsimiksnabac6576]

i knew the basics of the East India Co. and how big they were. but this bit about them issuing their own passports was a real mindBlower. good programme, well done.

[@johnkruk6929]

No mention of what is left - the power house onto itself - The City of London !

[@Philip-ze7uh]

Committee of 300

[@johnkruk6929]

Thank you very Enlightening yes the British East India company learned some tricks from the VOC - Dutch East India company .

[@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb]

Dutch EIC was far too puny compared to British East India company yet they are exaggerated as having been more powerful.

[@dipakbose2677]

Armenians employed the Dutch to protect their ships from the Portuguese pirates and Dutch gave the subcontract to the British. After gaining Bengal the British attacked the Dutch and expelled them from India.

[@awibs57]

What a fabulous interview. Great to hear Mr Dalrymple talk open-endedly about it; he makes such striking metaphors. "It's like if Elon Musk had nuclear weapons" and "Clive was the Voldemort of South Asia" will stick with me. "The biggest narco in history - Pablo Escobar could have taken a lesson from them."

[@GregoryWonderwheel]

East India Company bought off Parliament and got tax advantages in the tea trade that led to the Boston Tea Party.

[@derekstaroba]

Bankers were involved. God will suceed

[@Philip-ze7uh]

And they still run America down to small details

[@BIRDMANinc]

I m sure you mean that they had to pay taxes & bribes.. or else. Just like today, biggest mob s the government.

[@Pensnmusic]

​@@derekstarobathe hell? Colonialism is christianity aligned you goof USA resisted britian while emulating their colonial model Christianity was coopted a long time ago (likely by Paul) to be a force to centralize around a coercive authority (God ostensibly, but the church leadership and Paul in reality)

[@chaseschweitzer6968]

Great topic and guest!

[@derekstaroba]

He has fantastic speaking control and capability

[@derekstaroba]

Provincials

[@derekstaroba]

The person who conqueree china was an admiral he sailed inyo the bay of macao fire his cannons and saild away in victory

[@brianwheeldon4643]

Thanks Mitch. Wow this sounds like a fraught subject. What a nightmare time for the people in India subject to that violence and extraction. I realise one can't look back in hindsight with modern values, but Mr Dalrymple goes overboard about it. That the USA appears to have taken this as a working model for an economy, it's no wonder the planet is in the state it's in with endless war and greed, corruption and in the grip of a likely existential climate emergency and 6th mass extinction. The east india company lives on through the MIC, Wall Street, City of London, and the many corporate governments around the planet with billionaires taking centre stage. Important to know about it, but if we do nothing ever to change things, it will shortly be the end of us and much other life on the planet.

[@piyushjaiswal9283]

Most of these entities you named - are actually and inherently connected to the families and people who were the brains behind East India company.

[@londonbowcat1]

22:40 key part

[@Pensnmusic]

​@@piyushjaiswal9283dynastic power exists because capitalism was coopted by the former aristocracy of the former monarch rule Capitalism was structured by those with power to hold onto as much of their former power as possible And how did dynastic monarchies work? Their families accrued and inherited their power If you're dog whistling an antisemitic conspiracy I'll throttle you (metaphorically)

[@BibinBCherian]

Absolutely fascinating.

[@vipin395]

very much appreciate your honest opinion and siding with the true history... thank you professor appreciate it from India

[@londonbowcat1]

22:40 what case was this?

[@gloriouse4458]

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS INFORMATION 😺🌸

[@derekstaroba]

Imperial hero

[@sohambanerjee99]

Great Conversation!!

[@armyofimrankhanpti1516]

That's why Indian don't trust West now.

[@nassermashadi]

Wonderful and informative.

[@cadilacdesert]

Wow!! Love this guy

[@user-lj3hr7nd3z]

Nice podcast🙌

[@sebastianbalbo1906]

They import even THE scientific MATHEMATIC pillar of INDIA INTEGRALS DERIVATIVES SERIE LIMITS ,MODERN TRIGONOMETRY ARITHMETICA THE IDEA OF LONGITUDE ETC..

[@hllndsn1]

Blackstone's Commentaries says different about the history of "corporations".

[@philipb]

Thanks, this was brilliant

[@Philip-ze7uh]

Today the east India company calls themselves the committee of 300 and they rule the world through their think tanks I.e. the Tavistock institute etc . They are ruled over by the Pindar who is the Top . ( rules say it has to be a man so it was not Elizabeth

[@derekstaroba]

He speaks the truth

[@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb]

35:14 - wrong though. As per deeper readings, the East India company used many police forces and armies raised from Rajasthan , central India , haryana and Punjab and the gurkhas etc all of whom had been defeated by the sepoys of indo-gangetic plains earlier. Apart from that, yes Sikhs were also raised as police and British forces after their subjugation by the sepoys of East India company. And then there may have been tribals..i am appalled at how the role of pashtun tribals is so exaggerated and involvement of much larger forces from other Indian ethnic groups always black out or glossed over - must be the colonial trope of how the north west are the martial people's . Right? Even today we see that narrative going on..

[@derekstaroba]

If you hear the wisdom in the the message these are skrletons of conquests and asset stripping uou will learn and gain a new mind that is what they feqr

[@derekstaroba]

East company is a compay in india that exchanged tea and stole gem stones

[@johnkruk6929]

No mention of the pillaging of scientific knowledge know how ie manufacturing of stainless steel etcetera.

[@YouOnUsPath]

Lol same org changed the clothes, dutch east indie company-east india company-wallST

[@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb]

The City of London and many other hidden institutions not even known to public.

[@londonbowcat1]

24:20 what company1951 insane Anglo oil company 1953 Guatemala fruit company 1973 itnt in China

[@derekstaroba]

1619 caight and throen into the tower of london my king hear ye

[@derekstaroba]

You are not beyond redemption

[@BoqPrecision]

This historian wants to obsfucate or is ignorant to the symbiotic relationship between the crown and british east india corp.

[@danielhutchinson6604]

Do you imply the influence went in one direction From The Crown to the Corporate world? Or could the implication of the money flowing into the Royal Treasury from the generosity of the Merchants, buy influence as it does in the US Today? Royalty had such a fragile grip on power as do the Puppet like figures in power today.....

[@FilesdocumentsAndreposit-kr3vb]

Both were hand in gloves. You haven't even seen their real wealth. Even if your were to load all that wealth in 50,000 ships still you'd have much much more left . Apart from the British families and elites , it were the other elite families who got the even bigger share and all of it..

[@JohnAllenRoyce]

Have we seen the same video? "This historian" has written excellent books clearly pointing out the collusion with the Raj to the point of muckraking. Why try to smear work that is trying to point out the injustice done to India by the company?

[@moodist1er]

Someone skipped the book of Joshua, lol.

[@lingdatang669]

not documentary style

[@1GoodWoman]

Name the people in the companies, banks, families and politicians involved and where they are today. Please. The names such as state, company, etc. are not helpful for real understanding of power in out world today. The generic labeling allow total anonymous power which is a global problem. You have the expertise and track record to open the question. We need global electronic courts….expertise in all things electronic with enforcement through the banking system. Finance has become the new power of control as guns and bullets used to be. Now the killing is mostly a keep the people distracted while we manage the real power…..birth power or really monarchy. Babies have needs in reality but for family and royal power babies have power. Please explore this. Name names and connect them to families and individuals today. Same with clergy and religious groups. The families.

[@michael511128]

You can’t. 3 US funds own 20 trillion dollars assets of military industrial complex-BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street. We don’t know who own how many shares because they keep them secrets. Other secrets include money launderings in offshore accounts, casinos, Swiss and other weird banks. Even you know the history of their great great grand father, you cannot trace the money. Don’t believe the billionaires list, it’s too short. Precisely they hide so that you may never catch them. Serious threats like Snowden and Assange are handled meticulously.

[@jimthompson9370]

Really interesting. Not a part of history I know a great deal about, I’ll look up EIC again. Shame it’s presented by two west-loathing presenters. It made me proud to be British.

[@CTStatz]

Typical lazy analysis of the East India Company: “The poor Indians were completely exploited by a greedy western country and had no agency to stop the super power English or prevent their colonization.” No accountability (or at least an exploration) of the fact that the East India Company would never have become a power in India without the Indians themselves. Indian Sepoys always represented a far larger number of soldiers in their ranks and Mughal power brokers and state administrators were not thinking of the betterment of the Indian nation as a whole when they switched their allegiances to the Company. THEY WERE ALL THINKING OF PROFIT!! At the Battle of Plassey, which all agree was the pivotal moment of the Company taking power, Clive only had 750 British soldiers and 50 sailors. He also had 2,100 sepoys! Were those 2,100 Indians forced to fight for him? He would have never won that battle if Mir Jafar, his 30,000 infantry and 15,000 cavalry did not defect DURING the battle. Were 45,000 men FORCED to defect? Greed is a universal human trait which has no color, religious affiliation or national loyalty. Without factoring that idea into the story of the East India Company one learns nothing (good or bad) from one of the most fascinating and important chapters in history.

[@rirkkadunz9453]

well, the speaker does mention about the British East India company having support from Indian bankers as well as being bolstered by large numbers of Sepoys. i think all before the 20 minute mark. I'm not well versed in the subject but the analysis here is quite detailed and not what i would call 'lazy' personally.

[@Pensnmusic]

Greed is a universal possibility, not a universal inevitability. All you can really learn from the BEIC is how to prevent colonial exploitation in the future.

[@derekstaroba]

Queen Elizabeth had an affair with drake r u insane?

[@vlad3192]

What an outstanding silver-tongued liar this woke historian is😅

[@flippydaflip5310]

This is all very interesting - I just wish Dalrymple knew what the term "anarchy" meant.