The Correct Way to Chase the Player | Pathfinding - RPG Maker MZ Horror Tutorial (Intermediate)

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TheOdie

TheOdie

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@furryfr0g
@furryfr0g Жыл бұрын
I actually really enjoy when creators leave in the "errors". It helps my learning process a tremendous amount by seeing what NOT to do and encourages me to pay attention and understand the WHY and the HOW instead of just copy/pasting everything. Keep up the great work. :) -Davey
@Zer0Morph
@Zer0Morph Жыл бұрын
This is hands down the best RPGMaker tutorial I have ever seen, and the most helpful!! I was stuck forever on pathfinding and this easy solution works brilliantly!! Your way of explaining things, your sound quality, etc... is top notch, and you're pleasant to listen too as well as having a wonderful personality. I really hope Caster's Trap is successful. God bless you friend!
@TheOdie
@TheOdie Жыл бұрын
You are so kind! Thank you so much!
@StevenIIX
@StevenIIX 10 ай бұрын
This is great! Thank you very much! I was having trouble with Pathfinding plugins because of incompabilities, but I didn't know there was such a simple solution without the need of any plugin. You saved my day :)
@richardcesber
@richardcesber 4 жыл бұрын
Oooooohhh... Boy, this is going to be Fun :3 Killer persuit 😍
@alitatripp9822
@alitatripp9822 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. I'm more into making dungeon crawlers, but you have some excellent advice for boss chases! keep making videos, they're beneficial!
@dairyfreelemonstreams9493
@dairyfreelemonstreams9493 Жыл бұрын
You saved me 5$ so I don't need to buy a plugin off Itch to do this! Many thanks :)
@drageonmusic6421
@drageonmusic6421 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for this man, just getting started with MZ but you just made what i thought would be super difficult really approachable. definetly getting a sub and video binge from me !
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! And welcome!
@one-nilteamstudios2430
@one-nilteamstudios2430 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, funny and informative tutorial! Great stuff! :D
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear!
@zweg9400
@zweg9400 4 жыл бұрын
I love your tutorial videos, really helped me a lot.
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Let me know if there's anything you're interested in learning 😀
@zweg9400
@zweg9400 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheOdie Well for now i'm still planning all mechanics/story for my project so I don't know what problems i'll specifically need to learn yet, but actually about the chaser stuff I'd like to know if it could be improved like this: The chaser keeps walking at normal pace randomly in a determined region, if the player approaches a certain distance to the chaser he would start this proccess of pathfinding and start the chase, but not chase around all the map like set up a region where he cannot reach you anymore (like a place that's supposed to be a hiding spot), then he would go back to his initial position. Idk if im making sense, Im still new to rpgmaker
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think I get what you're getting. That one is a bit more advanced. I'll tackle it in a future vid for sure!
@zweg9400
@zweg9400 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'll look foward to that and keep watching the next videos coming too. I'm still using RMMV instead of MZ but I guess I can still apply that knowledge to it.
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 4 жыл бұрын
Yup! They share all the core mechanics. The primary difference is the additional plugins options in mz
@banyalaplace
@banyalaplace 3 жыл бұрын
This is a life saver, I can't thank you enough!!!
@DuLuanVien4.0
@DuLuanVien4.0 3 жыл бұрын
wonderful. The most helpful video I have ever seen. thank you very much.
@megamanx913
@megamanx913 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this! Alright!
@devinlupei5071
@devinlupei5071 6 ай бұрын
This is EXACTLY what I was looking for! Google was no help! Why this isn't a standard function of RPG Maker's movement system I will never understand. Thank you! You wouldn't happen to know how to make an enemy not get stuck when moving away from the player, would you?
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 6 ай бұрын
You can place it in set movement route. Just change the x, y destination from the player's coordinates to a location on the map
@devinlupei5071
@devinlupei5071 6 ай бұрын
@@TheOdie Actually, upon testing this in game, I don't see much of a difference between what the regular approach player route does and both versions of those scripts. Perhaps asking the AI to find its way around a big fence is just too complex.
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 6 ай бұрын
@devinlupei5071 the pathfinder does have a limit. If the map is too big, it won't work. In this case, I would suggest looking into a plugin. Visustella might be worth looking into as they provide a lot of quality of life items
@minty111
@minty111 2 жыл бұрын
that script doesn't appear to be in the spreadsheet anymore.
@BzNii
@BzNii 8 ай бұрын
No more bad enemies Ai , Thank to you!
@cabanasbeats6141
@cabanasbeats6141 3 жыл бұрын
you just fixed my pathfinding woes!
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 3 жыл бұрын
Ive got your back! 👍😁
@cabanasbeats6141
@cabanasbeats6141 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOdie you have yourself a new subscriber! it's great you're on MZ. I need all the help I can get!
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome :D !
@ot2nie
@ot2nie 2 жыл бұрын
This is really helpful, thanks a lot!
@typeable101
@typeable101 11 ай бұрын
Hello, thank you so much for the tutorial! I'm a beginner RPG Maker user, do I need to put credits if I use this script in my game? Thanks!
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 11 ай бұрын
Nope! I share this one completely for free :)
@typeable101
@typeable101 11 ай бұрын
@@TheOdie I see, again, thank you so much!! It's very helpful :D
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 11 ай бұрын
@_typeable glad to hear it! If you feel the need to credit me in someway, a special thanks to TheOdie is good enough 🙂. But really, no need!
@TheLastLivinGameCube
@TheLastLivinGameCube 7 ай бұрын
Hey, I'm starting to program a battle in RPG Maker MV. Now I just created some new skills, but for some reason the "Magic" option is showing up twice in my battle menu for one of my characters but not the other. Why is that and how can I fix it?
@SteveHarlow-g9q
@SteveHarlow-g9q 10 ай бұрын
I'm basically completely new, Player Touch isn't working for triggering a "fail" it will only trigger if I initiate contact with the event. How can I make the event initiate a fail?
@adakrai1097
@adakrai1097 3 жыл бұрын
It works omg 😎👍
@MichaelaThisten
@MichaelaThisten Жыл бұрын
You are a lifesaver
@skatefilter5
@skatefilter5 Жыл бұрын
I made a bigger map just for a AI chasing but it's lagging so hard. Did anyone has the same problem on bigger maps such as interiors?
@TheOdie
@TheOdie Жыл бұрын
Pathfinder has a harder time with larger maps. If you plan to pathfind on larger maps, it is recommended to use a plugin so you can adjust the range
@skatefilter5
@skatefilter5 Жыл бұрын
@@TheOdie Okay so what's the name of the plugin?
@TheOdie
@TheOdie Жыл бұрын
@@skatefilter5 any pathfinder should do. A lot also tends to be built into core plugins like visustella's. A Google search for pathfinder plugins should bring up several results
@lykovideos9595
@lykovideos9595 5 ай бұрын
I was wandering, can i mix a script call and a regular square comand? Say for example do an if() with a script call, using blocks to describe what is done in the if, close the } with another script call
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 5 ай бұрын
@lykovideos9595 not entirely certain what you mean, but everything inside a script call is independent to itself. So you can't do a script call, hit OK, then do another script call and continue from the previous one. If that's something you're trying to do, you'll need to save values in switches/variables and proceed from there.
@lykovideos9595
@lykovideos9595 5 ай бұрын
@@TheOdie That does answer my question. Thank you
@myplaylist7007
@myplaylist7007 2 жыл бұрын
I thought i would need for the event to pick from 3 different set paths to find me.
@DragonSkorn666
@DragonSkorn666 8 ай бұрын
How can you make this work with vector based movement? I've tried using a plugin for this to work but the chaser just starts spinning in circles when it has to make a choice in direction.
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 8 ай бұрын
I wouldn't recommend vector based movement. The engine was designed for tile- based movement only. In the case of vectors, you'll have to create your own pathfinder that supports vectors
@DragonSkorn666
@DragonSkorn666 8 ай бұрын
@@TheOdie Thanks! I didn't know if it would work or not, I appreciate the reply!
@Actidle
@Actidle 3 жыл бұрын
can you make tutorial how to make flashlight?
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 3 жыл бұрын
It's better to do with plugins (one I know of the top of my head is community lighting) than to create one ourselves. I'll do a showcase in the next week or two 🙂
@TheLastLivinGameCube
@TheLastLivinGameCube 8 ай бұрын
How do you make it so that an enemy can only chase you once? I've tried Erase event, End event processing, and Control self switches, but nothing worked.
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 7 ай бұрын
I made a playlist that tackles the basics to make an RPG Maker Horror Game. The basics go up to part 5 and can be lengthy, but most who've seen it didn't need tutorials after that ^.^ kzbin.info/aero/PLmqD_CN4-c_t5LJJp8bvpIZNlflrXBCIu
@TheLastLivinGameCube
@TheLastLivinGameCube 7 ай бұрын
@@TheOdie Okay, the email link to the shared G drive folder has been sent to you
@jesusm3744
@jesusm3744 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Thank you for the tutorial. I tried this in RPG Maker MV and when I tested it, the gameplay did't run smoothly, it lagged. Do you know how to fix this? Thanks again
@StarlightBettaGamer
@StarlightBettaGamer 3 ай бұрын
What if you wanted the enemy to chase you only if you were within a certain radius of it? making it a little slower than you so it'll stop chasing once you get far away enough, combined with random movements so it looks like its still doing its own thing without you? :P
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 3 ай бұрын
Very much possible! But not easy. I demonstrate something like this in my line of sight tutorial
@StarlightBettaGamer
@StarlightBettaGamer 3 ай бұрын
@@TheOdie i use the visustella plugins too, there might be something in the eventmovements plugin to make it easier. I'll go check out your video later :P
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 3 ай бұрын
@StarlightBettaGamer yup! It uses the same pathfinder but simplifies it for you :)
@StarlightBettaGamer
@StarlightBettaGamer 3 ай бұрын
@@TheOdie So using your " aura's " line of sight, i figured out how to set it up so the monster has random movements, chases you when you're in range and stops when you're not all within one event page- Edit: I was having troubles with getting it to do everything all at once but i actually figured out a relatively easy way however it requires an additional parallel event to control the movements ( aura and player chase ) part, then set the event itself to random movements and event touch = battle processing. Thanks for your tutorials, i wouldn't have been able to get it to work like this by myself. big help!
@nicolasadjignon1336
@nicolasadjignon1336 5 ай бұрын
I tested it and there is a little problem. If the enemy is on the other side of the map and i keep moving right and left, it will just stupidly move right and left too and not go up.
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 5 ай бұрын
Is it a large map? Unfortunately, the pathfinder breaks with larger maps. In this case, I suggest finding a plugin that does it better
@nicolasadjignon1336
@nicolasadjignon1336 5 ай бұрын
@@TheOdie Ah, that figures. It's not that big of a map but it's not working. It was my last attempt before moving my project to gdevelop hahaha. Thank you very much !
@beary-boo3223
@beary-boo3223 6 ай бұрын
Dunno if you still reply. but is there a simple way to also get this killer to chase at a speed between 4 and 5? Like 4.5? I've tried separate scripts but I think it's getting overwritten somehow
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 6 ай бұрын
Is the event changing pages? Or is a switch is triggering it on/ off? If so, this may cause the change in speed to be rewritten. The event speed will initialize when that page/event becomes active. Then your command to change its speed will have to come after
@beary-boo3223
@beary-boo3223 6 ай бұрын
@@TheOdie Yes, a switch was turning it on. Thank you!
@mangomilky4526
@mangomilky4526 2 жыл бұрын
i had test it. The enemy stuck in block path. The Enemy need Image recognition of the level algorithm.
@TheLastLivinGameCube
@TheLastLivinGameCube 8 ай бұрын
I've linked a chase to an event for picking up an item. The item does not reappear, but the chase does. How can I make it so that the chase does not reappear?
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 7 ай бұрын
Similar to how you made the item disappear, use switches and the conditions on the event page
@TheLastLivinGameCube
@TheLastLivinGameCube 7 ай бұрын
@@TheOdie Actually, I had to make the event disappear in a different room. I just have to use a different switch for different chases. Thanks for reminding me.
@TheLastLivinGameCube
@TheLastLivinGameCube 7 ай бұрын
@@TheOdie okay, I just tried doing this in a different room than before and it doesn't do anything. I've tried conditions, switches, erasing the event. Nothing prevents the repetition.
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 7 ай бұрын
@TheLastLivinGameCube if your map is too large, pathfinder stops working. Unfortunately, this is a limitation with the engine. If it is something else, feel free to send me videos/screenshots to my email in the descriptions of this vid
@TheLastLivinGameCube
@TheLastLivinGameCube 7 ай бұрын
@@TheOdie How big are you talking about?
@zxczxc9336
@zxczxc9336 2 жыл бұрын
it work on MZ3D just a little lag thx!
@EB-cz4te
@EB-cz4te 2 ай бұрын
I've tested out your first version and although it does stop the event fidgeting back and forth on stuck areas it still seems to some times get itself locked into areas and not recalculating an optimal path without the player having to move first, is this intentional? I want to see if I can get an event to intelligently path find
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 2 ай бұрын
@@EB-cz4te unfortunately, the pathfinder does have a limit. If the map is too large, it stops working. If you're aiming to keep larger maps, I'd suggest finding a plugin. Fair warning, lag increases significantly when using pathfinders designed for larger maps
@greenoak2205
@greenoak2205 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you can this be used to make him chase over multiple maps?
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, just the current map, but combine this with my "chase like in ao oni" video and it will!
@greenoak2205
@greenoak2205 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOdie thank you
@robin.8868
@robin.8868 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to make this work with followers? My characters are two kids and I have one of them set as a follower, but the chaser doesn't attack them if he hits the follower.
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately no. It's far more complex when it's not the player. You may want to look into visustella as I feel as though they may have created a paid plugin for it
@theegg8780
@theegg8780 3 жыл бұрын
“TypeError Cannot read property ‘moveStraight’ of undefined” (RPG Maker MZ).
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 3 жыл бұрын
Make sure you're copying the game map portion and event ID portion as written and placing it properly into the move route with the correct destination
@theegg8780
@theegg8780 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOdie Thanks my guy
@MultiFreaky123
@MultiFreaky123 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there! I really liked your tutorial but I'm having trouble recreating this in RPG maker XP because the script calls seem to be different. I can't for the life of me figure out where I would find the relevant script calls for XP. When people write scripts where they reference game_map, for instance, how do they know the usage of that class? I can't find it anywhere! Any help is greatly appreciated!
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh XP. Sorry but it's been over a decade since I've used XP, which was also the engine I started with. Scripting in VX Ace and before was very different. While I do recall script calls possible in VX Ace, I cannot say the same with XP. Scripting in XP primarily used what was in the Scripts menu while the 'script call event' was to write small snippets of code instead. I believe it would have calls reference, but likely a library much smaller to the point that I do not believe one exists for pathfinding. You'd likely have to write the script yourself or find an existing one to copy/paste into the scripts menu. Be a much older engine, you're more likely to find answers off rm forums than anywhere else. Best of luck and I hope this helps to some degree!
@MultiFreaky123
@MultiFreaky123 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOdie Thanks for the quick reply! That was really nice of you. I'm okay with having to write the script myself as I'm quite familiar with scripting in general. But I still need to know how I actually reference and/or edit anything that I have not defined myself, and it is beyond baffling to me that there doesn't seem to be a collection of those syntaxes anywhere on the internet. Like, how do I know the names of functions that are included in a certain class? How do I even know the names of those classes? People just seem to magically know on the forums but they never explain where they gathered the information to begin with. Is there really no guide for this anywhere?
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 3 жыл бұрын
I wasn't able to find anything either from a quick search ago. Have you tried the help menu? I recall using it often in vx Ace so xp may have it too. Otherwise and sad to say, you may have to drive into the core script and disect it that way
@MultiFreaky123
@MultiFreaky123 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOdie Well, thanks for the advice nonetheless. I'll try looking a little deeper into the help menu.
@averaystuffs2489
@averaystuffs2489 2 жыл бұрын
Which algorithm do you use ? A* or Dynamic Pathfinding ?
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 2 жыл бұрын
This tutorial uses the internal pathfinding system built into rm which I believe is A*
@averaystuffs2489
@averaystuffs2489 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOdie oh okey nice info
@ozgarner9939
@ozgarner9939 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Man! I tried this just now and it works fine until my chaser has to turn, then the sprite will glitch out and show the gap in between two sprites on the sprite sheet then the frame rate will go waaaay down. Any thoughts on how to fix that?
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 2 жыл бұрын
Can't say that's happened to me. Feel free to send me a video and screenshot of your code at theopolisgaming@gmail.com
@DibujitosBast
@DibujitosBast Жыл бұрын
Is there a way to make pathfinding diagonal?
@TheOdie
@TheOdie Жыл бұрын
Not by RM's internally built pathfinder. You will need to see if the script you discovered diagonal movement from has one.
@soriroguri
@soriroguri 2 жыл бұрын
so sad that this script doesn't work with galv's diagonal movement :(
@soriroguri
@soriroguri 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, i solved this problem. This script incorrect working with enabled diagonal movement on mouse, i just turned it off.
@ivebeincheesy239
@ivebeincheesy239 Жыл бұрын
is there anyway for RPG Maker XP?
@TheOdie
@TheOdie Жыл бұрын
I don't believe it has a built in pathfinder, but there should be plenty of scripts you can try. A simple Google search for rmxp pathfinder should yield several results. Best of luck!
@Mio_Takahashi_
@Mio_Takahashi_ 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a way you could get the event to chase you from map to map?
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 3 жыл бұрын
Sorta. It won't be the same event but a clone of the event (using a plugin). Otherwise, you'd have to make a new event on every map you want them to appear. I plan to make a tutorial on this in the future :)
@Mio_Takahashi_
@Mio_Takahashi_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOdie Can’t wait ^\^ You’re always very thorough, and I really appreciate the effort you put in. Until then, I’ll try and see what I can do with other sources and my own efforts ^_^
@Tovar7w7
@Tovar7w7 2 жыл бұрын
Does work to Mv?
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@DANDLERR
@DANDLERR 3 жыл бұрын
I need this for vx ace
@mangomilky4526
@mangomilky4526 2 жыл бұрын
So this thing doesn't need a plugin ?
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 2 жыл бұрын
Correct. It's just one (long) line of code :P
@mangomilky4526
@mangomilky4526 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOdie Oh okey btw, i wanna make enemy move random but somehow when the player get close to enemy's range they will chase us with the pathfinding algorithm. Can you make it ?
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 2 жыл бұрын
@@mangomilky4526 it's a bit difficult but I made a "line of sight" video which is the aura that you mentioned. There are three videos but you only need to watch part 1 and 2. The third is just an advanced optional method. Best of luck!
@mangomilky4526
@mangomilky4526 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOdie dude, i have been trying your code line but the enemy stuck on blockpath and not automatically chase the player where they are
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 2 жыл бұрын
@@mangomilky4526 so the line of code uses the internal pathfinder which sadly means that it does have a limit. Is your map big? If it is then you will require a plugin
@swag-sn7ze
@swag-sn7ze 3 жыл бұрын
thank
@511987
@511987 3 ай бұрын
Wy killer is not killing you? I am not watching movies one by one, but on previous ones, killer does murder you :P
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 3 ай бұрын
After a series length of killing the player, the killer finally realized they'll just come back afterward 😅
@511987
@511987 3 ай бұрын
@@TheOdie sure hehe, Buuuut, there is something breaking coding, or just accidentally erased function?:)
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 3 ай бұрын
@511987 as in the killer isn't chasing? If that is the case, then your map could be too big. The pathfinder has a limit unfortunately
@511987
@511987 2 ай бұрын
@@TheOdie more like connecting killer with timer, to stop trying to kill us while timer hits the proper time, sorry for delay, cannot spend as much time with rpg maker as I want :P
@jrosrenegamesarte6078
@jrosrenegamesarte6078 2 жыл бұрын
I hate to be that guy...but i need MV or MZ =( sorry man
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 2 жыл бұрын
Get it while the sale is going!
@jrosrenegamesarte6078
@jrosrenegamesarte6078 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOdie I'm so bad at this i meant which one are you using in this video X) Also what are your thoughts on "RPG Paper Maker" ?
@TheOdie
@TheOdie 2 жыл бұрын
@@jrosrenegamesarte6078 MZ. As for paper maker, I haven't tried it before but the 2.5 perspective seems neat
@B-F3x
@B-F3x 6 ай бұрын
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