The Cosmere Connections in Elantris You Missed

[@picivyvortac2641]

I always got the idea that Sando intended to return to Cel much sooner but with the success of mistborn ended up shifting his energies.

[@seanhalpin87]

cant wait for the next two elantris novels. Sel is arguably the strongest planet, the limits on what can be done with the Dor, or lack there of is nuts.

[@tonykuriger573]

I guess you could call seons.... Sel-phones.

[@ZachTaylorReads]

👏👏👏I approve 👍

[@denglongfist4270]

I called them flying iPads at first

[@leehrvyoswld]

Booo, get out 😂

[@johntybagend]

Kekeke. This amused me greatly.

[@arabellawillow]

That's totally where Sando got the name from 😂

[@Time_Traveling_Corgi]

You have to take into account the aspects of the Shards. Devotion and Domination. Raoden wasn't special from birth, but as he spent more time in Elantris and earned the devotion of the Elantrians, his power increased. Same with Domination Wyrms Domination is what alsos them to channel more of the door.

[@ZachTaylorReads]

That makes a lot of sense

[@SageSSBM1]

Dominion* :)

[@Time_Traveling_Corgi]

@SageSSBM1 You are correct. Domination is how I visualize the aspect of dominion.

[@nehmenkarduh8921]

I think you raise a very good point

[@davidhamilton676]

Wyrm is an aspect of autonomy, not domination. Reread the mistborn, and look at the set up and the way the Set was arranged. Then go reread how wyrm and friends work.

[@BuggMann91]

It would be crazy to me if Adolin somehow got to sel and perform a kata and find out that he could use dor

[@MichChats]

That would be hilarious

[@peterwm234]

I always assumed the reason its very hard to reach sel through the cognitive realm is because of the way the 2 shards residing there were shattered and explosive effect of accessing the Dor. If I recall correctly the Dor is like a highly pressurized air tank, when you release some of the pressure it comes bursting out like a fire hose. Dahkor sure sounds a lot like another magic system we are all very familiar with... can twist and modify the body... requires human sacrifice...

[@jaketiger1116]

Yeah when he was describing it I thought "A lot of that sounds an awful lot like hemalurgy..." but then he mentioned the teleporting thing and that kinda left me a little stumped

[@morsumbra9692]

An important distinction though is hemelurgy graphts into the soul web, damaging both the donor and recipients soul web. Aeons allows for complete rewriting of the soul web. So healing or reversing a thing pre graphting in hemelurgy would be impossible(kinda like if it's been long enough regrowth won't work) but Sel Aeon writing should be able to undo or reinvent into just about whatever. Sel magic is gonna be so clutch if they find away to brak the geographical boundary issue, same with Roshar surgebinding. until then allomancers will reign supreme in the galactic cosmere war. Which is coming... worlds war cosmere is gonna happen...

[@Time_Traveling_Corgi]

Imagine a Kandra with bones invested with The Dor.

[@Lunari_024]

Oh no… Wait, we can use this to build an absolutely OP character. A Kandra with Elantian bones, nightblood, whatever that metal that turned people into Mistborn (can Kandra use feruchemy?) What else can we add?

[@Fireice2929]

@@Lunari_024Lerasium. And no, Kandra cannot use Feruchemy, so no compounding - however, their blessing spikes, infused with Dor through some Selish magic system, should definitely be possible since we know Kandra blessings rely on the investiture applied to their spikes

[@GraveKing3473]

I know someone else in the comments just stated 'hemalurgy,' but I do think there is a connection between the Dahkour bone-monks and hemalurgy. The fact that it involves sacrifice made me suspect it on my last read-through, especially since it's been confirmed that hemalurgy does work Cosmere wide, and is not limited to allomantic and feruchemic abilities. Maybe the spiritual connection to the Dor of 50 people provides a measure of protection from the Dor? That said, none of the Dahkour monks seem to be spiked, so I'm kinda stumped there. Could be small spikes embedded in the bones? I have a feeling the next Sel book will clear most of this up, though.

[@denglongfist4270]

Shu-Dereth, the best pyramid scheme in the history of fantasy

[@DarrenHuckey]

Dude - Great video. First time to hit your channel and this was perfect for where I’m at. I’ve read almost all of the Cosmere books, but like you, Elantris was one of my first and I’ve forgotten almost everything. I’ve been trying to go back and reread for the specific purpose of finding these Cosmere connections, but struggling to do so. This video has given me the push I needed to put my nose to the grind. Great work. Thanks again!

[@johnv3788]

I started with Elantris before any other Sanderson novels and I loved it! I think the idea of it is awesome and I've reread it a couple times. My controversial take is I thought it was better than Warbreaker, I thought that was his weakest book by far.

[@Eyes0penNoFear]

I'm planning to read Warbreaker again soon because I feel the same.

[@yomismo74]

I like Warbreaker but i like Elantris way more

[@sahilrajput-v5s]

Same i like elantris more

[@connorslocum9327]

Seons gotta be the mark of another shard once being on Sel. They're just way different from all the other magic there.

[@mtverv]

Nope. Seons and Skaze are the exact same type of Entity as Spren. They wouldn’t exist if Dominion and Devotion weren’t Splintered by Odium and (My theory only) Autonomy. Seons are Splinters of Devotion and Skaze are Splinters of Dominion…

[@ZachTaylorReads]

@@mtverv I think it’s in WoB somewhere they are most similar to Spren, and could theoretically make shardblades. I’ll have to look it back up to be sure tho

[@mtverv]

@@ZachTaylorReads yup, interesting that SPOILERS::::::::::::> SPOILERS (Shallan who is the only one to have 2 Shardblades now has a Seon as well lol)SPOILERS

[@ZachTaylorReads]

@@mtverv lol just more evidence that everyone in the Cosmere is actually just Shallan lol

[@emosongsandreadalongs]

The cell/Sel reception haha

[@jobypash780]

Elantrians were not the ones who looked down on violence. It was the government that took over after the fall of Elantris. If you read the book, it was Prince Raodens father that outlawed that. The Elantrians had Aons for attack, as seen by how Raoden and his companions fight Dilaf and his followers.

[@seanhalpin87]

Also , book two on sel is gonna be called Dahkour (spelling, its been a while) He plans on writing era 3, at once, then releasing era 3 book 1, elantris 2, era 3 book 2, etc etc etc

[@seanhalpin87]

One last thing, the bone magic, plays a role in the emperors soul (the bone creatures that get blood stamped) and is likely the 13th aether on Lumar, the bone spore. Which i wouldn't be shocked to learn all has to to do with white sand and autonomy

[@ldvalencia.author]

You made me wanna read it again. I think I’m gonna this year now.

[@unfire]

The idea has been floated that the lake that dissolves the mad Elantrians (Hoed? Hoaden?) is a partial Perpendicularity. My theory is that when the Shards are...shattered? The perpendicularity on that world gets a little wonky. See the Novella where Kelsier gets to the one and hangs out with Mist for so long. And most important in my mind is Warbreaker's world, the Shard actively has banned Hoid since he left after being the Storyteller in that book. Her active involvement in the Perpendicularity is the reason for the flowers that make the dye in the world so powerful. How all these waters are involved in Shadesmear I think will be the main focus for the next quintuplet.

[@Sunskate2007]

Could the Mysteries be linked to the Moon Sceptre from The Emperor's Soul (also set on Sel, but in the Rose Empire (see "Rose Barbarians?" on the Elantris map in the north west)) maybe? Apart from that, great video, great catch with the Autonomy stuff o.o

[@leandrosoares7548]

Imagine it ambition + autonomi = control

[@ChBrahm]

Never really thought about it but why were Dominion and Devotion together when Odium shattered them? Maybe because Devotion needed someone to be devoted to and Dominion wanted to... dominate her? It would be a really dark place if that relationship had been allowed to continue. Odium did the right thing

[@jkessler96]

WHAT I never would have thought to connect the religion of Jaddeth and the organization of the suits on Scandal, how long has Autonomy been at this?! I've done re-listen a while ago but that was before all the secret projects and not I want to go back and pay more attention to side characters that are confirmed to be main characters in the later Elatris sequels and the magic systems

[@samroth7995]

The red eyes seem to correspond to the red "enlightened" spren, similarly to how black mist/smoke correspond to investiture that has been destroyed.

[@TechNyx0]

I didn't see no spoiler warning for Lost Metal but I guess I'll be back after I finished it. Cause you mentioned it a lot at the start

[@elorrambasdo5233]

Did you finish it?

[@TechNyx0]

@@elorrambasdo5233 i did and it was great!

[@elorrambasdo5233]

@@TechNyx0 I thought so too!

[@edwardguest1404]

I think the hard to access part of SEL comes from the Dor being a raging storm no? Unless it says it’s a very recent thing?

[@ZachTaylorReads]

Well Hoid and Shai where able to get off Sel, so I assume it’s a fairly recent issue

[@edwardguest1404]

@@ZachTaylorReads idk we have always been told by Brandon that it’s very dangerous to travel in the cognitive realm in Sel because of the Dor. So I assumed is that?

[@chrishenslick5482]

I believe that the shards were splintered in the cognitive realm and created a massive power storm that is super deadly close to the perpendicularities. This makes it extremely hard (not impossible) to cross through to sel from the cognitive realm.

[@LrnecBuma]

It makes sense. From what brandan has said. The plan past SLA5 is to do... all of Mistborn era 3 and Elantris 2 and 3 are his fun breaks between writing the trillogy. Then back half stormlight

[@senseweaver01]

It's driving me crazy that Words of Radiance Part II is upside down behind you...

[@barrydias3755]

Theory if the one who is Unity binds together Honor splinters. Will he bind the shards in Elantris

[@jimmychurch9588]

Seons are confirmed by Sanderson to be a kinda of spren.

[@snotskikle]

What chapter was hoid in?

[@derekhand7904]

How do pll fallow this. I didn’t even realize Vasher was Zahel till watching this video

[@jakehaddon4604]

Am I the only person wondering why book 2 of Words of Radiance is upside down?

[@_Squiggle_]

You didn't mention the character who can make potions

[@erickalfaro8389]

He was one of the ones who practices the mysteries right?

[@AnontheOP]

Love your shirt. Love the subject. You got a discord?

[@connorslocum9327]

Yessirski

[@Knirrax]

hemolergy

[@Thurban]

Is that shirt about some right-wing political stuff? I'm so bummed man. I was really enjoying the channel and then I looked up from what I was doing and saw the shirt. Now I'm not sure this is a place that's right for me. I see somebody else down in the comments calling out the shirt and asking about a discord and that gives me a BIG old Jan 6th vibes. You sound like a big fan of the Cosmere, sir, and I was excited at first to find the channel, but I think I may have to move on. Such a confusing element added in the mix.

[@ZachTaylorReads]

Nothing political about it, I’m a history buff and my wife liked the shirt and bought it for me. I don’t have a discord, altho a few people have mentioned wanting to start one to talk about Cosmere and other fantasy books.

[@JohnSmith-rq5vo]

Don't trip Zach, do you. This thurban guy is trippin, who cares what your real world political beliefs are when we are discussing made-up fantasy novels. And according to the response, his wife bought him that shirt. I've been married. If your wife buys you a shirt, you put it into regular rotation. And, so the f what. If he is a die hard trump supporter, does that somehow change what he is saying about the cosmere.

[@kpenn2259]

Thy not to get your feelings bruised too much man. Sticks and stones etc. Imagine being someone so emotionally venerable that a patriotic shirt or a red hat hurts your feelings. You are stronger than that.