The Cost Of Flying: What Airlines Have To Pay To Get You In The Air

[@adamp9348]

We’ve got it good in the US with pilot pay. At my regional, first year first officers are now taking home $120K+ with bonuses factored in. Captains making close to $200K.

[@adamp9348]

…and to clarify, that’s regional pay. AKA where most pilots *start* their careers.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@adamp9348 🤔 that sounds exaggerated. Ppl have been trying to convince me to go to Delta or UPS. Starting pay is $60K. U telling me a regional starts higher?

[@bobbymccracken4601]

Far higher now. 60k for a line pilot job is low now. Southwest starts at just under $100k for a starting FO

[@adamp9348]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Nope. Go to Airline Pilot Central - our pay rates are published there. "Starting pay" requires some context. Probationary pay at a lot of the majors is LOW... Like lower than FO pay at the regionals now. That will likely change as new contracts are negotiated. Most pilots will make $100K their first year at a major and $150K+ in their second. At UPS, they have INSANELY low probationary pay (probably close to that $60K mark you mentioned) but year 2 & onward will get you well over $200K. ...And yeah, right now regionals are paying better (for junior pilots) than mainline is. That's a result of regionals raising compensation to attract more pilots, and the major carriers still being in negotiations with their respective pilot unions to do the same. My guess is you will see starting pay - particularly at the LCC's - increase substantially in the coming months.

[@adamp9348]

​@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 I'll put it this way - I'm a pretty junior RJ captain. Assuming I stay at my current employer, I'm expecting to make around $250K with 401K, retention bonuses, overtime, and per diem factored in. I'll still go to a legacy if/when I get the call (for the quality of life, job security, and long-term upside), but it's definitely a different world than a few years ago.

[@drmosam]

Great Video and very informative, thanks for the effort

[@deveretempro3869]

Very good content

[@Ahmadidris]

Can you make a video on how passenger jets are converted to cargo

[@trevorstewart8]

This is not hard to imagine. The aircraft is stripped of the "lock-in-place" seating which takes about 2 hours. Then any partitions and overhead lockers are removed, also lock in place. Any interior surfaces are protected or removed, and the plane is then ostensibly ready for normal flight cargo. If a heavy article is scheduled, then sometimes a special overlay floor is installed and locked in place as reinforcement. The plane now has two cargo areas, one is the normal lower hold and now it has the new upper hold. Windows are left in place as these are part of the structural integrity for the plane. I have travelled on a US domestic UA flight that had obviously been on cargo duty the day before. Its walls were marked and filthy, there were cowlings not pinned back and rattling, and the overhead lockers were mounted askew as if installed in a hurry.

[@dchan19362]

just search on KZbin on documentaries on this subject

[@Ahmadidris]

@@dchan19362 okay thank you

[@alieffauzanrizky7202]

@@trevorstewart8 there's a great documentary of it from welt documentaries i believe. Highly recommend you watch it

[@karlossargeant3872]

Yup I'm watching this Video Topic on Airline Costs and more on Air Travel in this Video now which is interesting Awesome Video!!!!

[@ramwithcamera6057]

Does the airline pay before their plane gets there or they pay it later? The airport sends the bill to the airlines/country? And also in case of emergency landing at random airport, they are given the bill later on?

[@NickyMitchell85]

When can we expect to see the next episode of the “How To Start An Airline” series?

[@LongHaulbySimpleFlying]

Thanks for your patience Nicky. We hope to have it out some time in the next three weeks!

[@NickyMitchell85]

@@LongHaulbySimpleFlying aww 🥰 😀 can’t wait 😛 to see it. I’m excited 😆. Take yer time.

[@mrbabyhugh]

12:06 WHAT!!!!!!!!!!! I gotta pay to fly OVER a country!! LMAO!! I guess that is what "air space" is all about, smh.

[@suryakamalnd9888]

Nice video bro

[@gilgengomes3222]

DJ's aviation is fantastic👍🏁🏁Thus like the Botafogo 🏁🏁 Let's Go botafogo 🏁🏁

[@nurrizadjatmiko21]

Very excellent video👍

[@emmykundy4273]

Too much repetition

[@LongHaulbySimpleFlying]

Thank you for watching, be sure to tune in again! 😊✈️

[@srujanjoshi3780]

This is getting into Wendover Productions territory

[@TriPham-j3b]

If boeing finance airport operation and planes rentals may still sustainable including car rentals and hotels and food airlines use it is then quite an industry

[@cheab1443]

when you mentioned about some Airlines that get banned to cross throught other areas country's like Royal Air Maroc ( morocco) they are banned from Algerian aerospace since 2021 march i guess

[@ivangeo3319]

Hello, I'm your pilot. I'm flying this airplane as soon as I graduate from flying college. Please remain seated until I brave enough to operate this airplane. I think.

[@cabottaxi]

Wonder if they factor in the cost of EU261. I was on the receiving end of a 4 hour 39 minute delay on a 3 hour 26 minute flight. Totally messed up travel plans and the airline involved are trying as per usual to deny paying out any delay repayment and trying to squirm out of it. They ought to take a leaf out of the UK train companies books who pay out within 7 days for delays.

[@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298]

Were you paying attention? Did you hear how much airlines are suffering and how little profit they make and you're still posting such a comment?

[@gaedzable]

@@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 Those compensations are not optional. They are mandatory, and airlines must be able to pay them regardless of their financial state. Of course, the EU compensations being so high, a delay can turn a profitable flight into a very expensive one. But that really should not matter, as airlines are obligated to pay these compensations if they want to fly in EU.

[@deltabeta5527]

How do airports measure the weight of the planes in order to charge them? 🤔

[@notawesomedanny785]

They usually add the dry weight of an aircraft, add the weight of the fuel and a rough estimate for passengers and bags.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@notawesomedanny785 no they don’t. The airlines pay the maximum take off weight for the airplane that is given by the manufacturer. They don’t pay by actual weight. So if the max take off weight for a 737-800 is 175,000 lbs, all airlines that have such a plane pay the same. Even if they only carry 1 passenger.

[@deltabeta5527]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 so that's why airlines prefer Ghost flights instead of parking the plane on land!

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@deltabeta5527 not really. It’s cheaper to keep them parked. But the ghosts flights exists because they don’t want to loose their slots at airports. If they don’t utilize their slots, airports will take them away.

[@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 true but that galena only at some very busy airports like LHR, SFO, JFK.

[@gilgengomes3222]

The cost of flying in the Brazil is Very..Very..high🤔

[@TriPham-j3b]

U.s. Airforce may best joine in commercials airline operation like Russian turned all military airfirce into commercial sine the 1990's

[@edwardfitzgerald3877]

Background music = too loud and annoying. Content is interesting, though.

[@sportsMike87]

Reading about record profits from bag fees makes me have no sympathy for airlines

[@roddyspicer]

Very good video, perfect timing for my lecture today (29th Sept 2022) in the MSc - Aviation Management programme at the University of the West Indies, 🇹🇹 Trinidad and Tobago

[@yengsabio5315]

You might wanna watch Wendover's ticket pricing video as well, I guess.

[@antel868]

Everything was mentioned except Greed.

[@sshah2545]

Come to Canada. You can add “a business run by scum” as well

[@shin267]

@@sshah2545 already have that in Australia

[@redakteur3613]

oh, maybe we should compare prices of 2022 to prices of 1980 to maybe develop some brains for the most clever part of the society

[@alieffauzanrizky7202]

@@redakteur3613 I thought ticket cost back then were higher with added inflation to today. Especially with low cost carriers being more common now

[@redakteur3613]

@@alieffauzanrizky7202 I’m just saying that some magnificently “clever” people love to complain about everything

[@abcjelly]

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