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@daniels.272011 ай бұрын
There are 2 reasons to NOT keep receipts: A) fear she'll see them B) fear I'll add them up
@jenshaga425611 ай бұрын
A yearly expense of 3 000 GBP on average is actually not that horrific, considering it is a daily driver and an enthusiast's car. And pretty much all the work done to it was all normal maintainance (no gearbox failures or such things). Many of the items that Mr. JayEmm had to pay for were repairs of old, bad repairs. Finally, most cars don't get to see their eighteenth birthday (average lifespan is 10 years). This Maserati is still going and is worth quite a lot. Thanks for an interesting video. Cheers
@wizzyno15669 ай бұрын
Average car lifespan in the UK is 14 years. In the USA its higher. The maserati has lost 80% of its value. I'm not saying it's bad, just saying it's not that unusual.
@MarcPagan11 ай бұрын
Holy smokes, the expenses one incurs owning a Maserati, are on par with owning an aircraft. To keep this G rated, I've modified the words of my first flight instructor: "If it flies, floats, or fornicates ....it's cheaper to rent it."
@igordewit735711 ай бұрын
Now THATS some solid words of wisdom there...for real.
@MrAjjm6511 ай бұрын
Never a truer word spoken!
@Emira_7511 ай бұрын
Pretty sure you stole that last line from the top comment of this video. And either way; perceiving women like that, is probably why you attract that specific kind of shallow relationship. Most people that aren't butt hurt old men can sustain a healthy relationship that doesn't cost like that.
@Alfa_davo11 ай бұрын
@@Emira_75I don’t believe the fornicates part was directed at females….its directed at animals such as horses for example. Planes, boats and animals…rent them, don’t own them.
@mariemccann589511 ай бұрын
Hardly.
@dadcars11 ай бұрын
That saved me a lot of time going through it all 🙌 thanks for covering the recent invoice 😅 I’ll take it from here 😚
@bentoole620511 ай бұрын
Something to bear in mind is that this Gransport has exceptionally high mileage, the highest I’ve ever seen, the average for these is around 40/50 thousand. It will have needed more items and parts replaced. The one I have is currently sitting at 45k with an extensive service history, enthusiast owned car and is nowhere near this total cost but it’s the same age as this car. Interesting to hear and good video!
@mariusnenu11 ай бұрын
Maaan, as a guy who likes to work on his cars, records and itemise all the parts, dates, mileages, etc. I found this video to be very satisfying and enjoyable. And I must admit the costs over the life of the vehicle, smaller than expected.
@Jake-im2lv11 ай бұрын
I get a little dopamine release uploading my parts receipts to google drive and entering all my maintenance into my spreadsheets with links to those receipts and cost totals etc lol
@r0b3rt_95911 ай бұрын
That's small if nothing goes horribly wrong
@leongiles349611 ай бұрын
Italian cars, like pretty girls, break your bank account... and your heart... but there is something about them that makes you willingly come back for more. Great video James... thanks for all your hard work!
@anastassiosperakis286911 ай бұрын
you can't take them with you, so it's better to spend them and enjoy them. Somebody should tell ME that.
@Phil-q7h11 ай бұрын
Nah, you can keep both. The women and the Italian cars
@baronvonjo192911 ай бұрын
So masochism.
@MrAjjm6511 ай бұрын
@@Phil-q7hWomen! I love the use of the plural word, one woman is expensive enough for me!
@Kref311 ай бұрын
I once sat next to a Swedish guy in an airplane and we somehow came into talking. He told me about his sailing boat at a Marina near Stockholm and what went wrong this year alone. I said: „Wow, expensive hobby, isn‘t it?“ He replied with a sentence I have stored in my memory ever since: „If it floats, flies or f#cks, it‘s cheaper to rent; but where‘s the fun in that?“
@JeremyOneal-kc5sc11 ай бұрын
I must be stupid because I own 4 Maseratis from 1987-2006. I love depreciation and buyer fear. And yeah... if you play hard, you'll pay hard. The tire and handbrake counts says it all. Driven hard and put up wet for 18 years/130K miles and that's all that's been needed? I'm looking for Maserati #5!
@LordLauderdale11 ай бұрын
Yeah. Leaving car exposed to the elements causes most issues.
@simondavies460311 ай бұрын
Fully agree. This is a high mileage, hard driven car. Subsequently little expense has been spared on its upkeep. The lifetime costs sound really reasonable, especially if you compare with a Ferrari of the same era.
@JeremyOneal-kc5sc11 ай бұрын
I owned an Alfa Spider for 7 years, and a Ferrari 308 for 13 years after my Alfa got pummelled in a hailstorm. I always feared the 308 would throw a timing belt or catch fire, or it would leave me stranded. None of that happened, but I could never fully enjoy driving it. I sold it for a healthy profit, then missed the italian character. I looked for another Alfa, then I discovered Maserati. So much bang for the buck and more driver enjoyment than any 308 could have. I love them all, yes even the Biturbo. The perfect enthusiast and tinker cars. They are never boring or mundane. And I love the cambiocorsa because once you learn it, it is glorious... except in stop n go city driving. It hates crawling thru mall parking lots just as much as I do, just one more reason to adore it. And I enjoy them all fearlessly. Life's too short to not own one.
@simondavies460311 ай бұрын
@@JeremyOneal-kc5sc I love them too. They are never boring or mundane, and you are right about the cambio-corsa. Maseratis are grand tourers: at their happiest on the open road rather than the school run!. Plus you get the most divine music from the exhaust: no one else creates the beautiful baritone song of the Maserati. Hang on to yours: the brand is on the up!
@IvanDP196711 ай бұрын
Broken down over 18 years, I'd say that was pretty reasonable for a beautiful Italian GT/sportscar, especially one with a Ferrari derived heart. OK, it's probably a lot more than your average car, but a Maserati will never be an "average" car. Many thanks for sharing
@johns944S211 ай бұрын
I totally agree . I own a blu mediterraneo gransport just like this one and these are all common issues. A lot can be saved by diy. Like the cam cover gaskets, sensor replacement ,coils and plugs as well as oil changes. Nice video and much appreciated.
@anidiotinaracingcar487411 ай бұрын
I've done the same math on a 100000+ km Ferrari 456, it was about 1€ per km (at a specialist, not Ferrari)
@kimbland26148 ай бұрын
Mumma Mia!
@scottwilkinson952111 ай бұрын
Bought new, 2007 Blu aniversary Gransport. 6300 miles to date 2023. Not serviced by main dealer in 5 years, not driven much in 8 or 9. Mileage is the be all and end all when it comes to running costs. I dont plan on ever selling it. I might go back to Greypaul Nottingham for a checkup next year as its been a while. Its an absolutely cracking weekend car even now, always turns ears and then heads. Horses for courses.
@jeandearme3211 ай бұрын
I love when airbag switch replacement kicked in suddenly tires didn't got changed so often. What a correlation
@simonshaffer11 ай бұрын
You sir, are a damn hard working chap, and it shows in your content. Well done!
@daniels.272011 ай бұрын
... and the 2 Big Blue Books!!
@badgersalesman559511 ай бұрын
He does less than an NHS Nurse ( and let me tell you. They do naff all ) that’s why they are all obese
@sangxu539111 ай бұрын
Good job breaking this down for common folks who want a 20-30k bargain exotics. The take away is, unless you are comfortable spending 5k yearly on service alone, don’t think about it. And that’s for a good condition one without major failure…. Can you possibly do another sich video on a 996 or 997 Carrera, just to have a comparison?
@DontPanicDear11 ай бұрын
It’s not just the cost for me! It’s the uncertainty of ruined holidays, days out and other plans. The rubbish bodged jobs even reputedly top garages drive you mad too. These work as a labour of love 3rd car. But is one of these really enough fun to justify these expenses? I say no 😢
@LordLauderdale11 ай бұрын
From experience with a 997.1, 996.1, 987.1, 987.2 they are around 1-2 k per year if serviced regularly excluding tyres.
@hensh91111 ай бұрын
I’ve worked this out for my 997.1, details in my comment above. Summary is about £2600 per year for me.
@rupertorgan774911 ай бұрын
As a serial Italian car owner of the lesser brands, I can identify with a lot of the recurring problems with the Maserati, in particular the constant handbrake adjustment. It also sounds like the first couple of owners drove the door handles off the car and ignored certain issues that didn't directly affect the running of the car. It proves that you have to have commitment (aka large cojones and deep pockets) to take on a used Italian car.
@camrunner663311 ай бұрын
Do you drive a fiat punto?
@MF-jp5vp11 ай бұрын
SUPERB! Excellent and honest Video....I've got a 3 year old Maserati Lavente V6, and I've had it for just over a year. My first service experience will be next year, within warranty period. So far the only costs have been the first MOT and a new windscreen at £2,500 (covered by my Insurance company 😍). No surprise sadly that the older a car gets, the more bits need replaceing and so the 'payouts' keep rising. With a newer car these additional cost's are lower BUT we know that bill for depreciation is waiting for you....🤔😁). Oh I've also got a 2002 Skodia Fabia cost me £395 5 years ago, and I've spent £495 in past year, and it needs four new tyres....and it's gonna get them....I love cars🥰
@pcr891811 ай бұрын
Always wondered so thank you. For what it’s worth £3000 in 2008 is £5000 in today’s money. Interesting that a service at main dealers was around a thousand and many years later independents were still £1000. Pleased to note my 18 year old Italian Panda sailed through MOT today.
@kristianniss520111 ай бұрын
Ah, the luxurious Italian Panda. Brave of you to own an older Italian exotic
@TH-lo9ei11 ай бұрын
Inflation adjustment is always an interesting point to consider (I am not sure, if this was taken into consideration in this video?). Mr. JayEmm's content is always a pleasure to watch.
@logwind11 ай бұрын
Interesting to listen to. Thanks.
@tiguanman117011 ай бұрын
I would guess that the tyres were replaced by the Main Dealer so that would have been a Retail plus prices. I keep spreadsheets for my cars and record fuel costs, servicing costs, repair costs and standing charges. The total is pretty high but a brand new car of that performance on a PCP would cost much more per annum than £3500. I would use Camskill for tyres and find a very good independent garage to service it. Will never be cheap but the rewards will be in driving it.
@james.james9911 ай бұрын
Most of this is just routine servicing and consumables like tyres and brakes. The odd sensor, a clutch at 80,000 miles which is quite frankly superb as far as wear goes, and parts under the car that have corroded due to the British weather. I can’t imagine that a 997 would have cost any less to run over the same period. Particularly with the well known engine problems that those come with. If you did all this work yourself, the bill would have been about a third of what it is currently
@GTFour11 ай бұрын
The second clutch at less than 100k miles is a big scare
@elnyoutube12311 ай бұрын
@@GTFour it's really depends how you drive it. Sounds like the second owner drove like a complete maniac lol
@james.james9911 ай бұрын
@@GTFour completely depends on the driver. My Gransport has about 20k miles on its current clutch and the computer says 15% worn. If you have mechanical sympathy, 60-80k miles should be no problem. If you’re expecting Corolla running costs, any Maserati, Porsche, Aston Martin, Jaguar etc should not be on your radar
@GTFour11 ай бұрын
@@james.james99 No one is expecting Corolla running costs and no opinion of that nature has been expressed. 80k from a performance clutch is fine. The second clutch they had lasted ~15k. That’s surely not a driver issue. Unless the driver was riding the clutch like a learner! But it’s not a manual 3 pedal clutch to even do that.
@james.james9911 ай бұрын
@@GTFour it’s very easy to ride the clutch in an automated manual. This can be done by creeping in traffic, reversing uphill and bad launches/jerky driving. If driven smoothly they generally last in the same way that a manual will. In my experience, the clutch throw out bearing will wear out before the clutch does
@davidmwood56011 ай бұрын
I had a 2006 Quattroporte. I must have been lucky because in 2 years it only cost me £1175
@ruk2023--11 ай бұрын
There's a difference between keeping an exotic running and keeping an exotic in tip top condition and sometimes you just get lucky from buying a well sorted car and leaving the minor issues for the next person.
@simondavies460311 ай бұрын
Quattroporte 5 - amazing car! 😀
@arizonaridersclub11 ай бұрын
We're riding with ya.
@seanbyrne876711 ай бұрын
Of topic but i like the Claud Butler bike mate. I noticed them Judy Rock shocks straight away 👌🏼. Had my knicked last month 😢
@steveyoung386911 ай бұрын
"Because of all of this I thought it would be pretty sorted..." That's interesting, because my reaction to 2 full binders of receipts is that this is a car that's never going to be properly sorted and will always require lots of money and attention. To quote Shakespeare's Tempest, "What's past is prologue."
@garyminion961011 ай бұрын
Enjoyed that incite into the cost of ownership, more difficult to keep folders on the more modern stuff with digital servicing, ie you don't tend to get a print out or book stamped anymore.
@Nialletto11 ай бұрын
Definitely less than expected... Thank you for putting the time in. :)
@paultucker127211 ай бұрын
About 18 years ago I toyed with the idea of buying a 3200 (gotta love those boomerang lights) as you could get them for about £18k, but I did my homework and the servicing costs scared the crap out of me! It was a V8 coupe I lusted after, so turned my attention to more humdrum examples, notably the Vauxhall Monaro and Ford Mustang. I went for the latter and I haven’t regretted it for a second. Parts are mostly dirt cheap. Since Covid shipping prices have gone nuts, but the Mustang is still a relatively cheap car to run. I’d love a DB9 but I suspect that will still require £2-3k a year even using independent specialists. Worth it for those looks alone though 😊
@mik15ful11 ай бұрын
I would say around 50% of its original MSRP…i had an RS6 first gen that i bought when the car was around 11 years old and 140k miles and had all the invoices since new(tires, fuel and insurance excluded) and I did what you did here and came up to a total of around $35k or an average of $3500/year, which is not bad given the car you drive…it becomes worrying when you take into account the huge depreciation, but then again you had the privilege of driving an awesome car
@gson686711 ай бұрын
Best music for any car channel !
@kttk456411 ай бұрын
It's not just the money but also the hassle. My first three cars were (lowly) Italian sports cars and they really consumed my life. So happy for maintenance-free motoring now. There are better things in life than admiring yourself in a shop window as you cruise by.
@DontPanicDear11 ай бұрын
Agreed! If there was a local fantastically skilled and 100% honest specialist, I might be convinced to try a slightly older, more exciting car. There never is though, so you find yourself driving all over the country, trying to get the same thing fixed by somebody else all the time. Half the time only to discover the previous work was botched. It’s not just the money as you say, but far too much stress and annoyance involved, even if you use the place with the best reputations!
@hensh91111 ай бұрын
Good video. It shows you need to have money aside for maintenance. I worked this out for my 2008 997.1 C2S coupe manual earlier this year, currently on 79k miles. They say £2k ish per year is about right: I’m at £10k, which is over 45 months and 34k miles. Including two sets of PS4S tyres (£1800), alloys refurbished x 2, front end PPF. New rotors and pads following track days too. Also had front end respray but that was paid for by someone else’s insurance at around £2k. This total excludes insurance and petrol, it does include preventative maintenance so not everything that has been done was needed. But the car is pretty damn good now.
@Tracertme11 ай бұрын
I had one of these in period owned it for 8 years, it never broke down or left me stranded. Had a few false engine light type warnings, which were easily fixed and only lost 15k when I sold it… so a beautiful ownership..❤ all on the same clutch as well, given I don’t do much city driving in it.. or stop start…. My experience of relying on main dealers to tell you about the pIS clutch settings and % wear is extremely inaccurate…. Just remember it’s electro hydraulic but otherwise a manual and ignore all their stupid software of the period… you could quite literally take it to one shop and they would tell you it’s in good shape and another would tell you it’s on its last legs.. 😅
@Spunge198411 ай бұрын
Great video, Jay. Enjoyed that.
@Spenny90911 ай бұрын
I found most entertaining the purchase history of the 2nd owner. What a busy little chap 😂. Although, I see a bit of him in me: fixing every little imperfection. You want a guy like that in a car's history.
@alanconner933511 ай бұрын
Wow that's alotta service repair! I need a nap now!
@cuk550610 ай бұрын
A very interesting video and as usual very well done. I just bought a 2014 Maserati GranTurismo with only 8000 miles on it and I tried to calculate a TCO for the next 8 years. That includes typical services, insurrance, repair of known issues like the wishbone, etc. but also some savings for unexpected repairs, and what many do not think about is value depreciation. Considering all that I came to sum of about EURO 6930 / year. As someone said on comments early, you better don't add it up.
@davidpliskin113711 ай бұрын
Genuinely great video, couldn't believe this ran 30min but it flew by! Would watch something again for other older cars
@barrettwbenton11 ай бұрын
[emits long, low whistle] Yep, like my mother loved to say, it's not the purchase price, it's the upkeep. Excellent video, Jay.
@AntoniusTyas11 ай бұрын
If ever we need a proof that James deserves being a car journalist, not just a youtuber, here it is. Such rigorous research on bundles of service histories, comprehensively packaged.
@barnett88211 ай бұрын
Brilliant as always and a fascinating insight - cheers buddy and keep up the great work!!
@vytas558410 ай бұрын
I’d love to see this video again, with a diagram of the car showing each piece getting more and more red every time it is repaired during the story
@stefbenedetti916011 ай бұрын
Jay, I feel for you and truly respect your love for Italian cars. If it's any consolation, in 1995 I bought an Integrale Evo 1, 3 years old and 30,000 miles on the clock. Derby Green (rarest colour ever??), and it cost me £16,500. One previous owner in Italy, I bought in the UK from an "importer". Bad move!! I owned it for 11 years, and I sold it for £6,700 at 65,000 miles, in 2006. I gave up counting what it cost me after it topped 40k of maintenance costs!! First bill 3 months into ownership; a hugely expensive steering rack (crash damage from previous owner coming to fruition); £600 rack, £1,100 labour!! Then followed as the years went on..... A new engine (6k), gearbox rebuild (1.7k), 2 resprays in 11 years (3k each), chassis leg welding when engine was out, 3 clutches (well, 60 in 5.5 takes its toll somewhere), suspension, brakes and drop links every other year, a turbo (was chipped when I bought it, unknowingly, but only cost under 1k), a head rebuild when the timing belt slipped 2 teeth, 3k after the £1500 timing belt kit replacement at Barry Waterhouse Engineering, a lovely piped leather Recaro interior, electrical fault ongoing analysis, numerous breakdowns caused by said electrical fault, new ECU and so on. The best breakdown was in a Multi Storey car park. Permanent 4WD cars need a full lift; they cannot have a suspended tow from the side of the road by the recovery service; it blows the gearbox diff. So the two partners had to turn up; one in his flat bed lorry which couldn't get under the car park height restriction, and one in his little van. Van driver 1 had to tow me out of the car park, then driver 2 winched me onto the truck, and whisked me away to John Day and TNI Motorsport!! Was it the best car I've ever owned? Yes, absolutely!! K107 OUF, where is it now??
@terminal-velocity11111 ай бұрын
Jay, brilliant camera work as usual. I know it’s not easy doing what you do.
@davidthomson69211 ай бұрын
Hi jay perhaps the original owner who clearly bought the car to enjoy and clock up the miles ( not a show pony). May have enjoyed hard cornering and the smell of burning rubber 😆
@nicholasn.288311 ай бұрын
I was gonna say, if he liked sliding. Tired would’ve been changed every 6 months😂
@Spunge198411 ай бұрын
I'm going to guess around £60k. I'd be astonished if the total cost was more than the purchase price. But then again, this is Maserati.
@robertwilkins304311 ай бұрын
That’s about my experience with my 3200GT albeit less made made than the Gransport I would say. This is why they are so cheap to buy and why they lag far behind Aston’s or Porsche in terms of values. With many owners hoping that prices will rise…I doubt they will until so few exist that they become desirable as Italian rarities. Lovely cars but flawed, I’m glad I scratched that itch tho.
@slasher988311 ай бұрын
Honestly do not think that these will ever become a serious "collector" car or go up in value. I think these will spend eternity in a sort of semi-exotic no mans land, being bought cheaply by people who are trying to impress on a budget, then being ditched when said people realise these cost proper money to keep on the road. The number of these I see for sale here in Oz with "has a problem with XXXX" or "just needs XXXX to be roadworthy" is pretty telling. They are hard enough to own now after 15-20years, imagine trying to keep one on the road at 30-40 years of age.
@andrewf782211 ай бұрын
Really interesting. Thanks James.
@TheBTG8811 ай бұрын
I never thought of Jay as someone who would ride a bicycle.
@miata814811 ай бұрын
This was a really great video, informative and true!!
@markchip111 ай бұрын
My guess is around 78-85k in maintenance... Oh! I'm pleasantly surprised!!
@slasher988311 ай бұрын
Honestly do not think that these will ever become a serious "collector" car or go up in value. I think these will spend eternity in a sort of semi-exotic no mans land, being bought cheaply by people who are trying to impress on a budget, then being ditched when said people realise these cost proper money to keep on the road. The number of these I see for sale here in Oz with "has a problem with XXXX" or "just needs XXXX to be roadworthy" is pretty telling. They are hard enough to own now after 15-20years, imagine trying to keep one on the road at 30-40 years of age.
@simon_hollins11 ай бұрын
I agree, not a collector car apart from the MCV. Take it from me (long term owner). No-one buys these to impress anyone. ‘Experts’ think they are unreliable and rust. Clarkson groupies laugh about ‘flappy paddles’. To everyone else they are just an old car. The biggest design/build flaw IMHO is the fragile interior plastics and rubberised coating. The early Spyders have a fair bit of scuttle shake - if that bothers you get a later one and/or run the right tyres at the right pressure. That leaves in peace those of us who love them to carry on driving them safe in the knowledge that there will never be a price bubble and crash to worry about.
@slasher988311 ай бұрын
@@simon_hollinsover here Maserati are still considered somewhat exotic. so people outside the car bubble tend to just assume any Maserati is worth a lot of money, no matter how old or crappy. Quite surprising to them that you can buy a 4200 for 25k Aus, but of course we know what that entails. Must say I often consider buying a cheapo QP as a project, but then I have experience with Italian cars as a mechanic and don't need to pay labour. Any average Joe who asks me if they should buy a Maserati from this era is met with an overwhelming NO, followed by "I am not fixing it for you". 😄
@raywhitehead73011 ай бұрын
I am a driving enthusiast. I love to take my 214 Honda Pilot SUV on my fishing trips. It is a comfortable ride. Has heated seats. Has satellite stereo radio. I changed the tires, once. I got a new battery, once. Oil changes as the schedule of maintenance suggests. Absolutely, No needed Unscheduled maintenance. No loud engine noises: the beautiful voice of Frank Sinatra comes through the cabin clearly. And its highly rated for Safety. I am the winner.
@raywhitehead73011 ай бұрын
2014, Honda Pilot.
@S2000Y11 ай бұрын
When people ask me how did you become a millionaire I reply ' because I never owned a maserati !
@emiliomoncher1542 ай бұрын
You do not know what you are talking about. You are not a millionaire, buy a toyota yaris,
@S2000Y2 ай бұрын
@@emiliomoncher154 unfortunately wrong 😀
@mustafaoshaughnessy319810 ай бұрын
Thanks Jay!!!
@2407booster11 ай бұрын
Fabulous content as ever
@ForgetfulFoot11 ай бұрын
Good video. I'm glad I passed on one of these here in Australia. I am sure the parts and labour cost would be far more then in the UK.
@iuxanu11 ай бұрын
hello mate, It's been a while since you have done a video about the Celica VVTL-i. Times have changed lots since then. I'd love to see another video on that car.
@MrAjjm6511 ай бұрын
A very informative video - basically set aside approx £3,000 per year when owning and running a performance car. It would probably be about the same for most brands (apart from Ferrari and Lamborghini) of cars from that vintage. You also make a great point that you should always go to a trusted mechanic, the exhaust bodge job you described is testament to that. In conclusion, you are spending approx 42 pence per mile per year in order to keep that petrolhead grin on your face - worth every penny!
@ashb622511 ай бұрын
i wonder how many of us could be this honest about our cost of ownership of our pride and joy
@peteredwards787211 ай бұрын
A fascinating video , thanks 👍👏
@ChicagoItalian11 ай бұрын
The Drive by Wire is fantastic - it’s just a matter of getting used to it…it does prolong the clutch life.
@AMG85511 ай бұрын
I have a very similar cost per mile for my E55 Wagon. Since 2008 (first receipt) its had £33k at least spent on it. That's 42p a mile.
@kevinokephoto11 ай бұрын
Fantastic vodeo. I really don't think that cost for an exotic car is particularily bad. My Mazda with tires, service and other stuff is perhaps half of that but basically driving a car is expensive. My Lotus Esprit Turbo, likely about the same cost as the Maserati. You only live once.
@Spunge198411 ай бұрын
Maserati and Tyres. Keeping Pirelli (amongst others) in business since 2001
@simondavies460311 ай бұрын
You are right. I have winter Continental's on mine currently. Ride improvement on the summer P Zero's.
@samcattell115011 ай бұрын
What a fascinating video. I've considered an old Maserati, had a few juicy toys in the past, e60 M5, W211 E55 AMG, Range Rover L322 and currently seeking a more comfortable replacement for my TTRS. Always fancied a Maserati but not so sure now. Thinking maybe a DB9 instead 😂
@elnyoutube12311 ай бұрын
DB9 is going to cost just as much if not more
@samcattell115011 ай бұрын
@@elnyoutube123 from research I've done, possibly not. Never going to be cheap but not quite the crummy build quality and fondness for rusting that Maseratis of this Vintage have.
@elnyoutube12311 ай бұрын
@@samcattell1150 I'm sorry what? 😭 I don't think I've seen a single Maserati from this era with rust on it... although I don't live in the UK anymore, but I do live in the "rust belt" of the United States. Over here an Aston Martin costs much more to maintain in just parts prices alone.
@samcattell115011 ай бұрын
@@elnyoutube123 well if you search around some YT videos including on this channel, you'll see that they rust badly, especially underneath. Aston parts are probably easier to source here as the cars are built here. Let's face it, anything old and fast with a premium badge will frequently help itself to the contents of your wallet
@simondavies460311 ай бұрын
See James comment on this 550 above: the lifetime costs for a Maserati of this vintage are in line with other premium brands. In addition this car is very high mileage, was "enjoyed" in its early life (see the tyre changes) and has then been meticulously (expensively) maintained. This report is actually a tribute to an often maligned supercar brand. You get seriously exotic Italian style, a legacy of over 100 years of performance motoring (F and L are upstarts in comparison) and a brand that is on the up (see their current line up).
@davidsherrick89811 ай бұрын
And thinking my Alfa Romeo is a money pit! Yikes, my sister wants a Maserati Levante, I think she would change her mind after watching this video! I'd take the Airbag light disassembled!
@rogeradshead584611 ай бұрын
Nice work James. I know you are running a 550 Maranello that has a similarly (high) mileage to mine and I'd be interested to know whether you can produce a similarly detailed breakdown of running costs? I'm pretty sure I have most of mine of you are interested to compare?
@JayEmmOnCars11 ай бұрын
Jack at Number27 actually did a video on my 550, and I'll be doing an update on it soon. In short, it's more expensive than this
@OneEyedJacker11 ай бұрын
The Maserati logo is the best in the industry.
@ianhoyle845911 ай бұрын
Interesting thanks 😊
@Nik-do1wd11 ай бұрын
Great video
@neilturner674911 ай бұрын
I didn’t think £60k thus far was too bad considering that for a Mazza it’s done Uber high mileage. Amazed it’s still on its original gearbox and not required any major engine work though, which together might’ve added at least another £20k to the outlay.
@anastassiosperakis286911 ай бұрын
it's not bad because he did 130k miles, much more than what the typical owner does. If he did 30, then the cost per mile would be really high.
@theicemario1510 ай бұрын
Well this car has covered well over 3 times as many miles as the average GranSport on AT, surprised the presumably daily driver life it’s led wasn’t mentioned. Especially when calculating such costs
@jimmyjt1611 ай бұрын
In my experience of buying and selling cars, it's ones that come in with big history folders like this that tend to be the ones I have problems with, yet the ones with basic compleated year service history books I have no issues with. Make of that as you will. It always makes me laugh when folk cream themselves over big history files. In my experience it generally means the cars had lots of past issues and will continue to cost you lot of money.
@ickyconcrete537011 ай бұрын
Lol, Ive been considering an 18k 70km quattroporte, this video is perfectly timed:D
@harrisonrawlinson56507 ай бұрын
That's actually fairly reasonable, it'd be interesting to know how much was saved on labour by the owner that did a lot of work themselves
@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek11 ай бұрын
Brilliant!!!
@pn_cy11 ай бұрын
I bought a Maserati 3200gta for 20.000. Had it for 3 years and spend another 18.000 on it during these 3 years. Amazing cars but very high maintenance
@enricogolfen11 ай бұрын
Hey JayEmm, have you considered making a review of the A6 BiTDI with 313hp or the facelift with 326hp. I got myself one because it is one of the more reliable cars you can buy used and it is a car you can put in my opinion endless miles on it. I own it for roughly 2 months or less now and already done 4000km in it.
@deaks2511 ай бұрын
Rough guess, yes that maintenance record will add up to more than the sale price, because over 18 years, £71k works out to £4k per year. Any car like this can easily spend that on average.
@trollmanrs11 ай бұрын
I recon more than the initial outlay for the car, especially if they used main dealers !! I keep a xls spreadsheet on all my cars, and I have done similar to you I went through all the history and invoices on my 2011 Maserati GranTurismo, and since 2013 it has had over 25k spent on it !! The previous owner but 1 beared much of those bills, so far touch wood I have only spend 2k at SportsItalia for a major service a few months ago before I endured a trip around Europe in the Maz. Next year I feel some more outlay is to come, rear tyres (god dam those hairpins in the Alps), front subframe and poss front brakes !! eek
@neilturner674911 ай бұрын
Another commenter recon-ing! Lots of ex-US Marines on James’s site today it seems…
@trollmanrs11 ай бұрын
Thanks Me speelling police. @@neilturner6749
@neilrice871411 ай бұрын
Maintenance will be more than the purchase price!
@Tinker200611 ай бұрын
Informative video, the car was driven hard in first 5 years. You add some bits from rather owner who does his own work, was it all for this car? as you have seats which have nothing to do with the car. Also it sounds like the car was vandalised at some point - not really maintenance costs And neither is detailing the car…
@Musician-Lee11 ай бұрын
I recon the costs were higher than the price of the car
@neilturner674911 ай бұрын
What did you discover when you were recon-ing?
@trollmanrs11 ай бұрын
Dick! @@neilturner6749
@paulbeswetherick426111 ай бұрын
Deffo more
@benbuchanan67211 ай бұрын
Oof. I was interested in this car a few years ago when it was c£14k. Although I still think it was good value, I’m glad I dodged a bullet. Thanks James.
@Blade131011 ай бұрын
The thing that has been missed out of all this is the enjoyment factor. Yes, we'd all love a cheap car but most petrol heads know that cars cost money and in normal cases are depreciating assets. Nobody ever tots up the total cost when their mortgage is paid off because it would frighten the life out of us! Buy a car you like, enjoy it and build up a war chest ready for issues and you'll have a great life!
@paulchapman52411 ай бұрын
I'll have a guess at 18years of maintenance is just a little bit less than the purchase price. Well I hope so anyway as I'd love to buy one 🙂
@MichaelWilliams-rd9ke11 ай бұрын
Is it a sign of something being wrong with me, that I've enjoyed watching a man reading out a car's service history? 🤔
@AWMJoeyjoejoe11 ай бұрын
I bet Ben from dadcars is sweating watching this! 🤣
@jimmerritt286011 ай бұрын
F1 pump will be an Alfa part surely at that price 😎😎
@davidvivian59611 ай бұрын
Hi Jay, quick, here's my temporary, fix for the laminate edging on the top of your Maserati desk. A drawing pin. INVOICE £536.17p. 🤣🤣
@2500BC5 ай бұрын
I only have 40k mi on an 06 but have bot had issues. I did the preventative stuff for suspension bits and that’s it. If i drive it like this one perhaps i would have the same things to deal with.
@Bluebottle_GB11 ай бұрын
I guess more, but only because inflation and cost of living increases means that labour costs will have risen disproportionately in the intervening 18 years.
@simondavies460311 ай бұрын
Not sure of the objective here. It is too easy to criticize the cost of running an ageing Maserati but I suspect that the cost of repairs and maintenance for a Ferrari of the same era would be similar. Additionally this car was really hard driven early in its early life, look at the tyre changes and service mileage intervals, and to get to the present day mileage is laudable (in a performance car) without major component failure. I think the lifetime costs are reasonable and the car is a testament to the ongoing reinvention of Maserati. Ferrari did a great job (at the time this car was manufactured) and have latterly provided Stellantis with the opportunity to build on all they have done. You cannot compare modern Maseratis with those of this era, and those ones were pretty good too!
@Lee_Pitcher11 ай бұрын
Back in the 90's I once bought a Bi-Turbo from some students in London for the princely sum of £800. It came with a folder of bills totally - £23,000. There is a saying with these cars that if you can't afford to buy one new then you can't afford to buy one secondhand. In fact owning a second hand one is actually more expensive. Having just sold my Granturismo, and as lovely as it was, I think Ill just stand back and admire other owners of such cars now as to how deep their wallets really must be !
@simon526311 ай бұрын
My friend wanted a car that was cheaper to run than his Aston so I sold him an old Maserati with two ring binders worth of maintenance records. LOL. Surely this car will be more expensive to run than the Aston? Perhaps not if Ben moves it on in a couple of months, but keep it a couple of years and those folders will bulge with more fresh paper. Still, I kinda want one.
@markkillington339411 ай бұрын
Jobs like fluid changes, cam cover gaskets can be done at home especially as the car is approaching 20 years old. For example the oil change, oil tank and sump is easy access, the oil filter can be changed by removing the front o/s wheel and liner. Gearbox oil leave to drain overnight as it needs to run down from the diff too, when refilling take your time as it takes time to swallow the oil down into the diff and gearbox. Coolant just undo bottom hose.
@robsmith1a11 ай бұрын
I don't think that's too bad compared the the cost of a PCP on a normal car if you buy an old one that's not depreciatoing
@stephenfyvie628211 ай бұрын
Interesting, now I know that even if I got one for free I could never afford to run it, but I still want one