The Council of Chalcedon; some of its manifest absurdities; and how it disagrees with the gospels

[@aq_ahmed]

Paul is destroying the Pagan Religion. Allah bless you

[@zainiabdullah621]

The Trinity, a self-inflicted wound that cannot be resolved until now !

[@iddodomingo6118]

Without knowing you’ve started to insult the Bible. The Bible forced us to accept the Trinity. Are you sure you wanna go down this rite?

[@ddd7864]

@@iddodomingo6118 The bible is filled to the brim with contradictions, and is itself not a trustworthy source due to us not knowing or having any evidence that the gospel writers actually knew Jesus- Hell, the book of John was found some 3 decades after the alleged crucifixion, which, as Paul has said before, was only viewed by the women who were seeing it from a distance, and the Bible has also been changed radically over the centuries.

[@iddodomingo6118]

@@ddd7864 I’ve gone through such issues and I disagree you probably have some some of these cheep arguments that are destroyed by logical though

[@ddd7864]

@@iddodomingo6118 Say what you want, but there is almost nothing logical about the trinity or much of the bible

[@iddodomingo6118]

@@ddd7864 I am saying what is truth. You assumption against the biblical trinity of the God head is unfortunate. If you want actually trinitarian arguments and not these false ones that trinitarians don’t even use them ask me

[@ahmd5]

Chalcedon is modern day Kadikoy on the Asian side of Istanbul, opposite to Sultan Ahmed. Trivial information which might NOT be important for the religious crowd but terribly important for history buffs 😎😎

[@waqarraza8463]

A needless Christian doctoring, haven't added value to it, only been successfully antaginist to reason. Well done piece.

[@mohammadkahil8255]

The word become a flesh. In Quran also we have “his Word” meaning God’s Word. My understanding is as follows. This specific word mentioned is a word related to God specifically, where no one can use it. And when you look in deep, you understand that this word is related to creation from nothingness. Where God can say “Be and it will be created” in Arabic Kun fyakoon We are clear than God used this word twice to our knowledge, when he created mater before the big bang, and when he created Jesus. So this word is not specific to Jesus, its specific to God when he want to create something out of nothing God bless you all

[@sutil5078]

Plus the verse in quran say "when he decree a matter he only say to it 'be' and 'it is' " or it becomes. Notice the word "a matter" so it applied to Jesus as you said, Adam, in the other verse and in any matter.

[@ChristinaFromYoutube]

Yes Jesus is the Living Law of God. "I have stored up your word in my heart, that I might not sin against you." -Psalm 119:11

[@lancegoodall5911]

In the beginning was THE Word and was with God, and The Word was GOD. - John 1:1

[@amirouchethelionofnumidia7092]

God bless you brother Paul!!!

[@MinaDKSBMSB]

You define death as ceasing to exist. If understood that way, then yes, there are contradictions. However, the Bible doesn't define death that way.

[@yasshahzad635]

Every your video is so good, history tells us things quite differently then today missionaries.

[@gregabreu292]

Thanks!

[@BloggingTheology]

Many thanks!

[@MinaDKSBMSB]

Fully God fully man is exactly who the Son of Man is in Daniel. He's also the Holy One in Psalm 16

[@iib9123]

Assalamu alaikum, just a note; Actually the Oriental Orthodox (i.e. Copt/Ethiopian) broke off at Chalcedon, at approx. 62M today they're quite large. The "Church of the East" that also broke off isn't big today, but was geographically speaking the largest church at the time. In other words, the council tried to break God in 3, but God instead broke the Church in 3...hope to see the next episodes soon insha'Allah!

[@sutil5078]

now there are over 40,000 denomination , last time I checked a year ago.

[@12anathema]

ya akhi, you understood it a bit wrong hahaha

[@kumailyar]

Where to find the rest of the three videos in this series ?? Please.

[@omaralyafai2368]

Very informative video as usual paul. May I ask. What is the book you referenced for Raymond Brown? He is a fantastic scholar. Now that I think of it its probably his book on the nativity 😅😅😅. Yeah. Raymond brown, E.P. Sanders, John P. Meier, James Dunn, James McGrath, Geza Vermes, Dale C. Allison, John Dominic Crossan, Paula Fredrickson, Michael Gorman, J.R Daniel Kirk, Bart Ehrman, and many others have been very helpful for me to navigate through xianjty in a objective and historical manner. Again, great video and looking forwards to many more. 😊😊😊

[@BloggingTheology]

Thank you for your kind words. You have read all the great and the good!

[@tacom0nsta658]

Thanks for the free list.

[@joketime5995]

Creation in the Glorious Quran Passages relating to creation occur in the glorious Qur'an is different places, such as: "Verily in the heavens and the earth are signs for those who believe. And in the creation of yourselves, and the fact that animals are scattered (through the earth), are signs for those of assured faith. And in the alternation of night and day, and that fact that Allah sends down sustenance from the sky, and revives therewith the earth after its death, and in the change of the winds, are signs for those who are wise" (45:3-5). Big Bang? The Qur'an says that "the heavens and the earth were joined together as one unit, before We clove them asunder" (21:30). Following this big explosion, Allah "turned to the sky, and it had been (as) smoke. He said to it and to the earth: 'Come together, willingly or unwillingly.' They said: 'We come (together) in willing obedience'" (41:11). Thus the elements and what was to become the planets and stars began to cool, come together, and form into shape, following the natural laws that Allah established in the universe. The Qur'an further states that Allah created the sun, the moon, and the planets, each with their own individual courses or orbits. "It is He Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon; all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course" (21:33). Expansion of Universe "The heavens, We have built them with power. And verily, We are expanding it" (51:47). There has been some historical debate among Muslim scholars about the precise meaning of this verse, since knowledge of the universe's expansion was only recently discovered. Six Days? The Qur'an states that "Allah created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them, in six days" (7:54). While on the surface this might seem similar to the account related in the Bible, there are some important distinctions. The verses that mention "six days" use the Arabic word "youm" (day). This word appears several other times in the Qur'an, each denoting a different measurement of time. In one case, the measure of a day is equated with 50,000 years (70:4), whereas another verse states that "a day in the sight of your Lord is like 1,000 years of your reckoning" (22:47). The word "youm" is thus understood, within the Qur'an, to be a long period of time -- an era or eon. Therefore, Muslims interpret the description of a "six day" creation as six distinct periods or eons. The length of these periods is not precisely defined, nor are the specific developments that took place during each period. After completing the Creation, the Qur'an describes that Allah "settled Himself upon the Throne" (57:4) to oversee His work. A distinct point is made to counter the Biblical idea of a day of rest: "We created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days, nor did any sense of weariness touch Us" (50:38). Allah is never "done" with His work, because the process of creation is ongoing. Each new child who is born, every seed that sprouts into a sapling, every new species that appears on earth, is part of the ongoing process of Allah's creation. "He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six days, then established Himself on the Throne. He knows what enters within the heart of the earth, and what comes forth out of it, what comes down from heaven, and what mounts up to it. And He is with you wherever you may be. And Allah sees well all that you do" (57:4). The Qur'anic account of creation is in line with modern scientific thought about the development of the universe and life on earth. Muslims acknowledge that life developed over a long period of time, but see Allah's power behind it all. Descriptions of creation in the Qur'an are set in context to remind the readers of Allah's majesty and wisdom. "What is the matter with you, that you are not conscious of Allah's majesty, seeing that it is He Who has created you in diverse stages? See you not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another, and made the moon a light in their midst, and made the sun as a (glorious) lamp? And Allah has produced you from the earth, growing (gradually)" (71:13-17). Life Came From Water The Qur'an describes that Allah "made from water every living thing" (21:30). Another verse describes how "Allah has created every animal from water. Of them are some that creep on their bellies, some that walk on two legs, and some that walk on four. Allah creates what He wills, for truly Allah has power over all things" (24:45). These verses support the scientific theory that life began in the Earth's oceans. Creation of Adam & Eve While Islam recognizes the general idea of the development of life in stages, over a period of time, human beings are considered as a special act of creation. Islam teaches that human beings are a unique life form that was created by Allah in a special way, with unique gifts and abilities unlike any other: a soul and conscience, knowledge, and free will. In short, Muslims do not believe that human beings randomly evolved from apes. The life of human beings began with the creation of two people, a male and a female named Adam and Hawwa (Eve). The Qur'an describes how Allah created Adam: "We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape..." (15:26). And, "He began the creation of man from clay, and made his progeny from a quintessence of fluid" (32:7-8). Thus, human beings have a fundamental attachment to the earth. While the creation of Eve is not described in detail, the Qur'an does make it clear that a "mate" was created with Adam, from the same nature and soul. "It is He Who created you from a single person, and made his mate of like nature, in order that he might dwell with her in love" (7:189). She is not mentioned by name in the Qur'an, but in Islamic tradition she is known as "Hawwa" (Eve). From these two individuals, generations of human beings have inhabited the earth. "Oh humankind! We created you from a single pair of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, so that you may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honored among you in the sight of Allah is the who is the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things)" (49:13). Big Crunch and the new Universe “He is the One Who created the heavens and the earth in truth. On the Day ˹of Judgment˺ He will say, ‘Be!’ And there will be! His command is truth. All authority is His ˹alone˺1 on the Day the Trumpet will be blown.2 He is the Knower of all-seen or unseen. And He is the All-Wise, All-Aware.” (6:73) This universe will all be destroyed and a new universe is promised. “On that Day We will roll up the heavens like a scroll of writings. Just as We produced the first creation, ˹so˺ shall We reproduce it. That is a promise binding on Us. We truly uphold ˹Our promises˺!” (21:104). Worship Allah alone “And never call upon any other deity side by side with God. There is no deity save Him. Everything is bound to perish, save His [eternal] self. [100] With Him rests all judgment; and unto Him shall you all be brought back.” (28:88)

[@muslimeen1930]

No Christian can explain the trinity , each has their own interpretation because it was not what Jesus pbuh preached , his message were Oh Israel my and your Lord is ONE God , there you see no trinity

[@think-islam-channel]

Well said

[@karimb972]

They will argue until they meet the Creator and then only will they realize what they already know: he is One without partners.

[@DivineAegis02]

@@karimb972 What a dumb comment. Where do Christians say The SON (Logos) or the Spirit is partners to God and NOT God Himself. Bunch of non-sense.

[@zaaroorian2700]

I'd like to shed light on Saint Maron which is our revered saint as Christian Maronites. During the time of these councils Saint Maron saw all this bickering about the details of Jesus Christ is just silly and a waste of time, so he left to live a solitary life in the mountain. To this day us Maronites see this bickering as very stupid and so we do not care if you are Catholic or Orthodox we are brothers. My dad is a Maronite (catholic) and my mom Orthodox, and we celebrate each other's holidays and life is good.

[@MarouaneBad]

Thanks a lot M. Paul. Please raise the voice a bit, I have to put my samsung note to the maximum to be able to confortably listen to this video. Your voice is low and soft, with volume raised it'll be better to listen. Thanks

[@abulolakew2852]

What do you think about the Oriental Orthdox Church?

[@AbdurahiimRoberts]

When you say "ecumenical" it always reminds me of Father Jack in Father Ted "Dat would be an ecumenical matter"

[@ImranHosein-fr-ibrahimutopien]

salam Brother Paul it’s crazy when you think about it as a spectator, to have to hear oneself say( and that some simply accept) that he would have been "son of God", 1/3 god , and god himself ( which by the way is very close to the suite of pretension of the Dajjal ) .... but that it was not visible, it was not clearly established . and it took 300 years to try to affirm it & think to establish it in the creed?

[@sherifel-hadi3439]

Coptic Christians here in Alexandria call themselves non-Chalcedonian, monophysites or miaphysites. Could you clarify in brief?

[@merromerro1618]

The thing I know personally is that they disagreed with the Catholics on the "emerge" of the Holy spirit from the father alone or both the father and the son....The Orthodox believe it did from the father only whilst the Catholics believe that it did from both

[@sherifel-hadi3439]

@@merromerro1618 The Holy Spirit "emanated" from the Father alone in Orthodox thinking, an absurdity if the Trinity is eternal. Orthodox Christians do not call the Father "Ab" the classical Arabic pronounciation, but stretch the A to "Aab" so it becomes a unique word for the Christians.

[@ML-xh9ds]

@@sherifel-hadi3439 I don’t know how eternal emanation is absurd

[@sherifel-hadi3439]

@@ML-xh9ds If an egg emanates from a hen then then hen has existed before the egg and is the cause of its existence. If the Spirit emanates from the Father, the Father must have been there first and must be greater than the Spirit.

[@ML-xh9ds]

@@sherifel-hadi3439 This is the case in biological causation, but not in every sense of what we mean by the term “causation,” the light of the sun is not before or prior the sun, rather so long as the sun exists the light that emanates from it is also caused from it and by it naturally and necessarily, it has existed so long as the sun always has existed. The Father is greater then the Son and Spirit in terms of causation, he is not ontologically greater because he communicates his being, will, energies, and all his divine attributes which pertain to his divine essence to the Son and Spirit.

[@muhammadsharif7990]

These Emperors, Saints, Bishops, Apostles destroyed Jesus's gospels and replaced w a spaghetti of beliefs, contradictions, forgeries etc

[@ibrahimalgendy9804]

Thanks a lot for your effort to make this video , may Allah bless you .

[@giovanni545]

Revelation 14:12 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

[@dauddaros7845]

sound like zues returned to earth

[@Thomasrice07]

Zeus is a human archtype of Christ. The flash memory of the minds creator. As are most myths.

[@richardmeredith6569]

So the traditional Christology of the vast majority of Christian churches, going back to the Nicene Creed, plus the Christology of the Fourth Gospel -- and Christ's pre-existence is also asserted by St Paul's Letter to the Philippians -- is to be dismissed on the basis of a hasty reading of a few verses in the Gospel of Luke! This isn't serious!

[@MuhammadO19]

5:15 Jesus omitted the Holy Spirit altogether when talking about knowing the time of the judgment day

[@mimianwar5448]

God works in a mysterious way....they cannot explain it because it's not true God is One and Only The Almighty Most Powerful Above all else and living never Dies

[@mikeschmoll7762]

Muslim logic: "If you can not comprehend it, it must be false"

[@kaddascout256]

Whats the name of the book he read out?

[@saidzouhri8524]

If jesus was God why he prostrated and prayed to God to save him from death

[@sutil5078]

Paul, or anyone here, do anyone know the name of the ex churchman who lived in the 16th centuries and converted to Islam? He said more or less "the problem with the early Church Fathers is that they dwelt on the nature of God and what he must be and must be not, without divine knoweldge, and that what led them astray" In islam Fitrah means we have the instinct of God's existence, all of us, but then as we grow up some deviate, but one thing to know of His s existence, another is to derive who he is, His attributes, etc without revelation.. we are incapable to do that using only our mind, hence: revelations. That is what happen to the church, the proof is theses number of creeds meetings, and long eternal debate about trinity only to resort calling it a mystery as the last resort and final "crutches"! There are 40,000 denomination in Christianity,.. before doubting the number just google it.. anyone remember the Church Man name? thanks

[@burtonsankeralli5445]

Chalcedon is the summit of Christian doctrinal articulation. The formulation of what we know as Christian doctrine is now complete. It is a brilliant exercise of Greek philisophy. But maybe you have to be a philosopher

[@Mike65809]

You are treading on thin ice with this. I suppose any text that shows Jesus' divinity will be dismissed by being suspect by experts? They suspect just about every text. What about Paul saying that in Jesus dwells all of the Godhead bodily? Is that text suspect?

[@jenniferjoseph5914]

Hi Paul,I look at this way.Abraham straggled to accomplished monotheism.Joseph was so grate in interpreting dreams and serving Egypt and became a great leader.Mosses became a great prophet and went through a lot he freed his people and delivers the 10 commandments . Prophet Mohammad went through a lot of hard ships to unit the Muslim umma under one umbrella. What did Jesus do??? Nothing he never did any of the other prophets did. ❤✌🏽👍got caught and got crucified and dead and vanished from earth .No one trusted him.Jews never followed him and never took him as their prophet.🤷🤷❤✌🏽👍

[@anyq_CS]

look at those books. this guy read then simplified everything into a video 😂 thanks paul

[@rashidaquil5284]

You are savagely slicing and dicing the scriptures Christians need to see this carefully

[@karimb972]

Most of them don't care. You read their comments. They make up the most incoherent and fantastical solutions to square the circle and then lie about Islam to justify their beliefs. Only the truely sincere can see the obvious truth that this is just human worship like all previous forms of idolatry. They are kuffar because they cover the truth of God's Oneness is semantics and garbage like God cannot forgive us without a blood sacrifice or we need God to be human to understand him. Nothing different than paganism

[@saidkahar5414]

With all the christian confusion God send Quran to clear matters. Yet they dont want to follow

[@ihsanomet1292]

Lost in translation, is a known fact. As for this , Allah always send his messengers to their interim pupils. Jesus son of Mary pbuh , was sent to the lost sheep if Israel, so in the language of what they spoke. Moses pbuh was to be sent to the Pharohs of Egypt, and to the Israelites, therefore, he had to be living in the Pharohs dwellings along with his mother to learn both languages fluently. As well as Joseph, and so on. Allah is All Knowing.

[@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667]

"God-head" is blasphemy and isn't the Bible. I'm a Christian that believes only the Father is God and no other. I do not deny Muhammad but Jesus is so Messiah which raises him above the other prophets. He is also the one still alive

[@lancegoodall5911]

Luke cannot contradict the writings of Paul or the other gospel writers for that matter. Cf. phil 2:5-7 - who took on the form of servAnt and John 17:5 - ‘And now, O Father, glorify me with thine own self with the glory which I had with you (previous) before the world was’....And of course John 1:1 cf. Gen 1:1 . Your arguments only bring out what we know, that language is limited

[@mimianwar5448]

A question to All Christians whom does God answers to? Why does he have to go through all that...when it's easy for him to forgive who ever He wish? God is just what happened to Jesus is it Justice? God is Forgiving all you have to do is ask

[@karimb972]

He's talking to himself. The son is the father is the son. All one big theatrical play where the actor is talking to himself and praying and worshiping himself, kiling himself to save humanity against his own wrath. And this nonsense is supposedly necessary for going to paradise and escaping hell. As if repenting sincerely to the One and only Creator is not enough. 3Adubillah min ashaytan irrajim. The horrible things they claim.

[@burtonsankeralli5445]

You need to read the brilliant English Dominican theologian Herbert Macabe who pointed out the God is not A type of being in anyway relatable to how we think of humanity as being. Also God is outside of Time so the Logos does not pre...exist.

[@normanmcdermid1951]

Absolutely

[@utedost3091]

👍📣🌻

[@nibinibiru119]

Trinity - Roman made, to satisfy Roman paganism.

[@yousefsalib7609]

I didn’t know Justin martyr who debated pagans was a pagan himself

[@tsuyune3443]

@@yousefsalib7609 One could say that the called by some paganism of certain doctrines in Christianity could simply originate from the background of Paul, who was first a pagan, and those who came after him.

[@yousefsalib7609]

@@tsuyune3443 Saint Paul historically was a Jew before he became a christian

[@tsuyune3443]

@@yousefsalib7609 You're correct, I made a (big) mistake and mixed Paul preaching to pagans and his appeals to their customs with his background. Sorry.

[@gideonopyotuadebo2304]

STABILITY IS GUARANTEED BY LAWFULNESS STUMBLING IS A PRODUCT OF LAWLESSNESS FLEE ANTILAWISM Deuteronomy 4:8 ASV And what great nation is there, that hath statutes and ordinances so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day? Psalm 119:165 ASV Great peace have they that love thy law; And they have no occasion of stumbling. Hosea 14:9 ASV Who is wise, that he may understand these things? prudent, that he may know them? for the ways of Jehovah are right, and the just shall walk in them; but transgressors shall fall therein.

[@yisrael8658]

Fact not Fiction That's so called : The Christianity is a 2021 Years old , only

[@karimb972]

Hinduism is much older doesn't make it truer.

[@iddodomingo6118]

Hello Blogging Theology! These issues you are wondering about are quiet easy to respond to. And I would be glad to help you out in understanding The God of the Bible who is Triune. Always say open to the Holy Spirit. Let me hear from you.

[@hassanmuhammad2799]

"The first commandment O Israel is that the Lord, thy God, IS ONE". Nothing "triune" in that statement.

[@iddodomingo6118]

@@hassanmuhammad2799 Our God is ONE ...

[@mikeschmoll7762]

@@hassanmuhammad2799 Look up the word "echad" which is translated as one. It doesn't mean strictly singular as you wish to hear it. It often means also a unity! "For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one (ECHAD)flesh." Genesis 2:24 NASB1995 --> Oneness in Plurality Then join them for yourself one to another into one (ECHAD) stick, that they may become one in your hand. Ezekiel 37:17 NASB1995 -->Oneness in Plurality You are searching for the word "yachid" but that's not what the text says.

[@delatorrecilla]

Hebrew torah never agreed nor mentioned Jesus pbuh as God. Fact. Triune God was invented in 4th century only after consensus nicea. After the consensus, Saint Jerome compiled the Greek text to become NT, he excluded at least 7 books of the Greek text from NT.

[@think-islam-channel]

This is a created ideology of idolatry. Massive sin to worship a son. So beware Christians.

[@Mike65809]

The problem with Chalcedon it is makes it sound like Jesus did miracles by his own attributes of deity. But Scripture does not bear this out. The book of John illustrates that Jesus did miracles by the Father dwelling in him in the power of the Holy Spirit. This is why Jesus did no miracles in his childhood, or early adult life. It was after the Holy Spirit came upon him that the miracles started. The 2nd person of the Trinity, the Logos, kept his identity when he became a man, so he was divine. "And the Word was with God and the Word was God." But, "The Word became flesh and dwelt among us..." He was not created! So his identity stayed the same when he became a man. Chalcedon gave us a Nestorian Jesus with a paradox. Your dismissal of the Gospel of John is pure crap. You need to repent.

[@teswsenbet1041]

Yes, He did miracles in his childhood. He did miracles when He was in the womb of Saint Virgin Mary. As an Ethiopian Orthodox I reject Chalcedon but you seem to be confusing things. " It was after the Holy Spirit came upon him that the miracles started." This is wrong. The Holy Spirit had always been with Jesus Christ, for eternity. Jesus Christ existed and exists for eternity.

[@Mike65809]

@@teswsenbet1041 There is no biblical evidence Jesus did miracles in his childhood. This is adding to the word of God. In fact, his own family did not believe in him, as the text says. If Jesus did miracles by the Holy Spirit (while in the flesh) before the Holy Spirit came upon him, then John would not have seen the HS coming upon him like a dove, since he would have already had the HS. See? So that cannot be correct. Rather, Jesus did miracles, not by his own power, but the Father dwelling in Him did the works, as the Scripture says. Amen?

[@teswsenbet1041]

@@Mike65809 In the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church (EOTC) , there are many books. Just be open minded and research, particularly on Ethiopian Orthodox church. “And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen” (John 21:25). As for the Holy Spirit coming upon Him, it was to witness to the people that He is God and the Son of God , so that the people would believe in Him. ( You can find EOTC videos explaining this in detail) If someone who is Christian claims to worship Christ but does not believe that He is God, then he/she is worshiping an idol which is sin. "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"

[@Mike65809]

@@teswsenbet1041 I respect your church but can't accept writings outside the Bible as authoritative. So, He is indeed God! He kept his spiritual identity as the LOGOS. What you don't realize is that he became a man and "emptied himself" of his own divine power (Phil 2). He did miracles, not by his power but the Father dwelling in him. He was given the HS without measure and He was given at his baptism. Otherwise, his baptism was just a show and not the reality. The HS actually came upon him as the Scripture says, otherwise it was a lie. His miracles were done after that event, not before. Jesus created the world as the LOGOS so the world cannot contain all he did. That was before his Incarnation. But if you believe Jesus never "emptied himself" of anything then you deny the Scriptures. He became a man totally dependent upon the Father for everything he said and did. That is the witness we have of him in the book of John. He thus became the perfect man and able to make atonement for man as such. Chalcedon gave us a Nestorian Jesus. Be careful you do not have a Jesus with two centers of conscience, one human and one divine. This is Nestorian and error and not what the Scripture teaches. God bless.

[@Monothiest247]

The word Christian is an oxymoron. Muslims are more Christlike than Christians. Jesus did not eat pork and he was circumcised, muslims follow his teachings.

[@auzdeee]

The Quranic simple answer to those who claim Jesus is God: 9:30 ) ............ the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?

[@Thomasrice07]

Like us in HUMAN nature. God AS MAN. This presenter does not know about what he speaks. Only on person (Divine). Two natures. Pre-existence of the Second Person of the Trinity. The same Divine Person that took on flesh IN TIME (birth of Jesus). Same Person.

[@mumairjaved70]

Hilarious doctrines

[@banzakidimye348]

The eternal, uncreated Son of God was born in time and space. The infinite became finite. The Word -- who was with God and was God -- became flesh and dwelt among us. The immortal became mortal. The Invisible God became visible man. 100% illogical ... perhaps; but the wisdom and logic of man is nothing but foolishness when compared to the wisdom of God. By dying - He conquered death.

[@xyubrixmyel2301]

You better stop what you are smokin'. Your mind is going bonkers.

[@think-islam-channel]

If Jesus was God, God forbid, then his dying means nothing since God is able to do anything according to you. If Jesus is God, why not ignore Jesus and worship God alone. Say : "O People of the Book, come to a word common between us and you, that we worship none but God, and associate none as partner with Him, and that none of us take others for Lords, apart from God. " If they (still) turn away, then say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims (submitted to Him exclusively). " Quran 3: 64

[@banzakidimye348]

@@think-islam-channel “If Jesus is God, then why not ignore Jesus and worship God alone”. If Allah is God, then why not ignore Allah and worship God alone. “If Jesu was God, God forbid, then his dying means nothing [as] God is able to anything according to you”. God cannot LIE. In keeping with His person and attributes, God established laws and principles, to which He Himself is subject. God is TRUTH - therefore He established TRUTH as a law - “Thou shalt not bear false witness” (. Do not lie). He established death as the punishment for disobedience to His laws. He established principles and laws regarding atonement, restitution of property, forgiveness and sacrifice, etc. All these laws have their source in His person and attributes - they are not arbitary and haphazard. They are a reflection of His very nature. They bear witness to His person and attributes. Christ Jesus died because there was no other option. Jesus’ death was an out-working of God’s very nature, person and attributes. It was the only way by which humanity could be restored into true fellowship with the Creator.

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@@banzakidimye348 Allah is God so I do that already. I don't worship a human claiming that he is God. The rest of what you wasn't an argument. It just came across as dogma to me

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@@think-islam-channel “The rest of what you [wrote] wasn’t an argument. It came across as dogma to me.”. To me, what I wrote makes sense and is logical - that God’s laws reflect His attributes. That God cannot establish a law that is contrary to Hi very nature and person. God cannot act in a way that is contrary to His person and attributes. Would agree with these statements?