The Crazy True Story of The Film that Nearly Ended Finchers Career

[@PeakedInterest]

Please don't forget to like the video

[@maxjoseph06]

Liked!

[@PeakedInterest]

Thank you

[@rejectedautobiography]

Great video!

[@anaalicia5029]

I still love this movie. I saw it in a theatre when I was a child and it was the first Alien movie I watched! I think it’s more an experimental piece of art than really a movie. And I loved Sigourney in it.

[@hardmode6082]

hey men props for this video, l was actually thinking "the transitions between cuts are really cool, wonder who edited this video", the only bit l was not really positive about was the music sometimes was too loud, like too in the front so to speak. But regardless pretty impeccable job

[@ninfilms]

In my opinion Alien 3 is underrated. Yes it has flaws but it got innovative ideas from the camerawork to its darktones. I prefer this film than Alien Resurrection.

[@PeakedInterest]

It's vastly superior to resurrection. That movie is awful

[@ninfilms]

@@PeakedInterest I just felt it was script that was the problem and Winona Ryder was miscast she was too big an actress to play a support. She just look like she was in the wrong film. I didn't mind the surreal vision Jean-Pierre Jeunet, but the arty vision and a basic script just didn't mix.

[@ttabood7462]

I agree. I think the main reason most people didn't like it was because they just wanted another 'shoot em up' film. Same with Prometheus.

[@leonefurlan137]

Film is great! I love A3! (Especially "the assembly cut³)

[@harlhequim]

The mood and music inside that space monastery is unrivaled in ANY of the Alien movies, including the first one. The problem starts at the end, with Ripley's death. That fact, condemned economically that movie over any other. Every premise about this movie starts with a recount of its troubles, probably because of Fincher's known frustrations about it, but if looked objectively, its evident is one of the grittier, coolest movies of the genre. It's The Name of the Rose from outerspace.

[@symmie666]

I love Alien 3. Ever since i saw it in the cinema all those years ago it just gripped me.

[@TheCelticTiger32]

No that was me behind you in the theatre. Yes, I’m the infamous Movie Stalker, ya got me

[@PotatoReviews]

When will studios understand they need to just stand back and let directors get on with their craft? It never works out well. This video on the other hand is absolutely outstanding! The editing and script is genuinely perfect and is honestly the most in depth and well made analysis of the production of this film. Well done mate, can’t wait to see more!

[@PeakedInterest]

Thanks man. This video was a labour of love for me being a big fincher fan.

[@almostshawn3230]

Stories like these get famous, but there are some little-known examples of studio meddling that have worked out. My favorite is from Rise of the Planet of the Apes. In a scene, James Franco goes to rescue Cesar. he opens the door, but Cesar refuses and decides to stay with his fellow apes. During a screening, a producer said there should be an insert shot of Franco holding a leash, symbolizing the life Cesar had and is now refusing to go back to.

[@Cooe.]

Because there's just as many, if not MORE examples of directors totally fucking projects up because things had to be done "their way". Myopic, tunnel visioned black & white views like this are fucking stupid.

[@PeakedInterest]

Film is a collaborative process, but there are a lot of people who think of it as a master and slave relationship.

[@lunaticfade4044]

Despite everything it’s still my favorite; the world building just feels real…I don’t care what people say when I watch Aliens I feel like I’m looking at sets; but when I watch Alien3 I feel like I’m in the prison.

[@VenusHeadTrap2]

He totally has a point

[@rollicker3139]

Sorry, but I can't disagree more. Aliens looks fantastic and just as real and authentic as the other films. I loved the aesthetic of Alien 3, and even the film itself, but in my humble opinion the other two films are critic proof as far as the visuals go.

[@796r]

You still feel that way when that poorly rendered green screen alien is climbing on the walls chasing them?

[@BloodylocksBathory]

I liked the absence of firearms in the story. It definitely gives more of a survival horror edge and less of an action film (as much as I enjoy Aliens, I wasn't keen on the much smaller serving of outright horror). What a shame that too many cooks barged into the kitchen, it could've been something really unnerving and beautiful.

[@Otokichi786]

" "Train To Busan" (2016) makes the "no guns" reality a marathon run through Hell.

[@BloodylocksBathory]

@@Otokichi786 good movie

[@tronam]

It's true, although when I went to see Alien 3 opening night in theaters I didn't find it scary at all, which disappointed me a bit. Aliens may have been more action than haunted house film like Alien, but it ramped up the tension in ways that I never felt in Alien 3. I'm sure if Fincher had been given creative control it would've been a much better movie. I can understand why he's disowned it and never talks about it.

[@MrZoolook]

I always tell people to watch the Assembly cut of this film. It's honestly the best version.

[@AdamT-88]

I love Alien 3, particularly the Assembly Cut. The fact this film struggled so much in production and still came out as good as it was is insane.

[@Yalbou]

Alien 3 is over rated. Its longer but the extra scenes make a boring movie more boring. The ox death is not as powerful as the dogs death. The alien runner makes more sense it comes from the dog rather than the ox. Ripleys death is more powerful with the chest burster. Assembly cut still has plot holes

[@martinharris5017]

Although I found Alien 3 very disappointing on seeing it at the movies, I did enjoy the "Assembly cut" re-release. Still hated the ending either way.

[@ryanlewis9953]

Okay, Alien 3 isn’t that bad. It’s too bad the studio got involved. Alien 3 had that potential a great film.

[@xsm5525]

out of ALL the alien films (yes, including romulus) I still think alien3 is the best one.

[@PeakedInterest]

I've always been a fan

[@darkwoods1954]

I've always thought Alien 3 was a great ending to the Ripley story. Especially if you amalgamate the theatrical and extended cuts of the film.

[@matthewmccarty6508]

David Fincher is hands down my favorite director. I think Alien 3 and its troubled production, pushed him in the right direction and stand up for his creative vision going forward…His next film was Seven for gods sake!

[@PeakedInterest]

Can you believe seven did not get nominated for any awards at all? But shakespeare in love took home an Oscar in the same year?

[@matthewmccarty6508]

Unbelievable, right?!?

[@matthewmccarty6508]

That was just heavy, heavy influence by the Weinsteins…

[@matthewmccarty6508]

@@PeakedInterest also just wanted to say really enjoying your content. Glad the Almighty algorithm led me in your direction :-)

[@Zatzzo]

31:55 The first Alien film won the academy award for best visual effects.

[@PeakedInterest]

You're right, good catch.

[@Prawduk730]

If 20th century fox rekindles relationship with David Fincher, perhaps we could get a David Finchers Directors Cut of Alien 3 but that’s just wishful thinking.

[@djrudd8455]

I LOVE Alien3, it's so grim and tragic and operatic, so rich in symbolism and such a profound meditation on grief, fate and fatalism, redemption and sacrifice, the first two are technically better, more cohesive films and I love them too but A3 affected me deeply in ways they didn't. And apart from a couple of dodgy compositing shots it LOOKS absolutely stunning. A real shame it was such an ordeal for Fincher and everyone else involved, and that so many people refuse to look for its merits and just write it off because it isn't more like Aliens.

[@Rschr101]

Well said

[@m0istur]

I think their method of making an alien puppet and moving it looked unique for the time. It makes the alien look as real as using suits, even if in the movie it had flaws and looked like it was made using stop motion or cgi

[@PeakedInterest]

True

[@JurassicRod]

I've always loved Alien 3, thought it was a perfect ending to the Ripley story. Wasn't until I got online years later I realized so many people hated it.

[@PeakedInterest]

A lot of people hated it because it's not aliens. They just wanted more of Cameron's aliens. With a decent budget if alien 3 came out today it would be much better received

[@negatywny.2005]

Damn. Alien 3 Assembyl Cut has so many new scenes. Like the one with Golic... I completely dont understand this hate !!! The movie was supposed to be sad, dark, depressing... The first hit in the face is Newt's and Hick's death. And that's good. Because you are devastated during Newt's autopsy. The conversation with Bishop. Makes you feel really bad. Then the end. Ripley with....inside. Her death. Youre done!!! This movie is a perfect ending of saga.

[@rustykilt]

Alien III, the Adult version of the Franchise, and the most atmospheric and intelligent.

[@leesheppard6043]

Zero atmosphere compared to the earlier films.

[@catmeifyoucan4649]

With the Alien franchise being my all time favorite movie franchise because I'm a horror/creature movie buff, I actually really liked Alien 3. All of Fincher's movies are spectacular, he's so talented. Good video, this told a story that I had no idea about - Thanks.

[@PeakedInterest]

Thanks very much for watching.

[@singaporeghostclub]

Fox Studios is Weyland-Yutani. “Crew Expendable.”

[@nameless.greyceo]

Alien 3 is the best and most scariest alien it's real gothic horror. The hate is just sheep following the crowd.

[@PeakedInterest]

I think a lot of the hate is because people just wanted a sequel to aliens. If alien 3 had followed any other alien movie I think it would be regarded much better

[@keaneowen7088]

​​@@PeakedInterestto be honest as i love the great acting and bleakness in Alien³, they should never kill Hicks and Newt off the screen. At least giving the scene and some character arc development before they killed or maybe they survived in the end so the Franchise can take new direction with Hicks and Newt (To be honest i want them survive so it can be Alien Ressurection with them).

[@Yalbou]

Ok contrarian. Alien 3 sucks

[@anthonyleighton4754]

Had some great British actors mix of posh lads and gritty Northerners....

[@PeakedInterest]

@anthonyleighton4754 yeah, continuing the trend of alien movies being filmed in the UK featuring UK casts and crew.

[@sgarden9111]

Alien 3 wasn't the only Alien film to be nominated for an Academy award for special effects; Alien was also nominated for best visual effects and for art direction as well and actually won the award for visual effects. It remains the only Oscar any of the Alien films ever won, at least the Sigourney Weaver ones to my knowledge. Great video anyway. I like how you mentioned the part where the studio tried to force Fasano to preserve Ripley and the whole preist CPR thing. What a horrible idea that would have been. I never liked the idea of a wooden planet myself either. Personally I love Alien 3 and am overall very happy with the movie we got despite its flaws. A ton of disastrous script ideas were avoided throughout the production and it really becomes clear just how truly awful the movie almost was many different times. It's a miracle it came out as great as it is.

[@ANONYMOUS-tg2tq]

Aliens get 7 oscar nomination Best actress Best score Best art direction Best sound Best film editing 2 wins Best VFX Best sound mixing

[@onkkell]

The crazy thing is that at the end of all this lies a pretty damn good movie, somehow probably thanks to Fincher and Elliot Goldenthal

[@ULYSSES-31]

The Wooden Planet script was the best idea.

[@ENDWOKEDEGENERACY]

Only if termites were involved and turned into aliens

[@bobbobbing831]

This is crazy to me because it's my favourite of all the Alien films. Utterly hopeless and bleak from the very beginning. Everyone dies and there's no happy ending. CGI alien hasn't aged well, but aside from that, it's solid gold.

[@bobbobbing831]

@@footballdesk4417 yeah, it's grim and depressing. I think most people like action movies, and that's why it gets hate. It's a straight up horror movie. Everyone is just jonesing for pulse rifles and Space Marines. Don't get me wrong, I love Aliens. It's just a different genre in my opinion.

[@PeakedInterest]

@bobbobbing831 I'd agree with that. Personally I've always preferred alien over aliens (though both are great) so I really like alien 3

[@bobbobbing831]

@@PeakedInterest great video by the way.

[@PeakedInterest]

@bobbobbing831 thank you. This is one I've always been proud of. Never understood why it didn't get more views.

[@lumrejington]

wow. criminally underrated channel. this shit rocks dude, keep it up

[@mhoppy6639]

Finche’s subsequent body of work pretty much vindicates his decision-making throughout the state of flux that existed whilst Alien cubed was being shot. Nobody’s celebrating the stellar careers of suits at Fox - I hope that some of them learnt something about delegation and interference from the way that the final film came about. Great vid.

[@MooncubedesignAu]

Crying shame what happened... perhaps Alien and Aliens were just too damn awesome to follow up on. Maybe the only way to successfully create a third instalment would have been a sincere focus on creativity, not money. I guess we will never know.

[@happyhappyjoyjoy6563]

i agree with that assessment, too much studio interference, conflicting ideas, completely profit driven without merit, they didnt know what they wanted to make.. but make it now, its gonna be a hit cause its out and we made it

[@PeakedInterest]

I think if they'd just let people do their job and stop dipping their fingers in the cookpot maybe it would have been good

[@sirgorash5704]

I remember Alien 3 as different from it's predecessors and still a great movie!

[@dennyperez3872]

I don’t dislike none of the Aliens films love them all…

[@PeakedInterest]

That's the spirit! You seen Romulus?

[@dennyperez3872]

@@PeakedInterest not yet looking forward on watching it..

[@PeakedInterest]

@dennyperez3872 it's a decent movie. Sits between 3 and resurrection for me

[@darius-rex]

OMG Sigourney at 15:57!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥😍😍

[@Jasonjones-h2x]

The assembly cut to alien 3 is much better than the horrible theatrical cut, its also not the worse film in the series either that honor goes to Alien reserection, it wasn't even scary an that is what u expect in an alien film..the silly humor is what ruined it...but what ruined the alien 3, too much studio cluster fks, an terrible editing... But the Assembly cut does fix the problems, except for the music...omg it made my ears bleed..

[@PeakedInterest]

Agree 100% with everything you said

[@xenomorphlover]

This was my first Alien movie and will remain my favorite ever...

[@garethjohnstone8662]

I liked Alien 3 a lot. And I am a serious Alien(s) fan. Even own a pulse rifle. The cast in Alien 3 was fantastic. Brian Glover, Charles Dance, Pete Postlethwaite etc. The special edition really adds a lot to the film. CGI was used and, back then, it wasn't too convincing. I would still always prefer a dude in a suit, like in the first 2, over CGI even now. I've listened to the Gibson full script, too. It's available here on YT. Pretty good. Alien Resurrection was absolute garbage. Fantastic video, by the way.

[@PeakedInterest]

Thanks. Totally agree with everything you said. The first version of the script is the best one. Didn't care for any of the revisions at all

[@sphenesounds]

FIncher done a great job, i really like alien3

[@Scott_King101]

I would love to see David Fincher make another Alien film where he has more creative control while subtly flipping the bird at FOX. Although that would likely never happen

[@Rschr101]

Be cool if he came back to recut the film, maybe film more of what he wanted originally. Maybe someday

[@MegaBillAnderson]

This was excellent. Clear and concise. Well researched, presented and edited. This is my first video of yours. I will be watching more. Really well done.

[@PeakedInterest]

Thank you. I try to keep my standards high and my topics varied. Hopefully you'll enjoy my other videos just as much

[@MaryBrownIsTheBlairWitch]

And despite it all, Fincher made a very good movie.

[@thermonuclearcollider4418]

"Alien 3" is very underrated. It does a couple of flaws, but it's still pretty great in its longer version (though a few things are better in the theatrical cut, like the Queen bursting out of Ripley at the end). The characters are so well-written, with some great dialogue exchanges, and the movie looks gorgeous: the idea of going the exact opposite of the previous movies and indulge in warm colors was just great. It also has an amazing soundtrack, probably the most distinctive in the series. I think people were too harsh on it because it wasn't a shoot 'em up like "Aliens". I remember in the late-90s somebody telling me "It's bad! There's only ONE monster in the whole movie!" and I was like "Well, that's the same as the first one...".

[@non.local.quantum.circuit]

Alien 3 is gorgeous, it has its flaws, but this heavy nihilistic atmosphere and religious references make it much, much better than Aliens, which for me with its ideas destroyed this mysterious, miraculous figure of the Alien.

[@Alienmojo]

I liked this much more than ALIENS believe it or not. The characters, the actors, the music, the cinematography, and the mood of the movie were incredible. Poorly done cgi though and they chopped the hell out of it. Can you imagine how good it would have been had they gone with the Gibson script? And speaking as someone who knows just about everything about ALIEN... you did an awesome job on this. Lots of little things I rarely hear from other youtubers. And Fincher is god. Screw Cameron. ;)

[@PeakedInterest]

Thank you. I treat the research portion of my videos very seriously and I fully believe there is not a piece of material about this movie that I didnt see. I like to be thorough

[@darkwoods1954]

I agree. Though it wasn't poor CGI, it was a rod puppet. It just wasn't imposed into the movie well.

[@Alienmojo]

@@darkwoods1954 Not all rod puppet was it? I know close-ups were real. The running alien was rod... yeah... your right. Maybe they SHOULD have used cgi! LOL

[@darkwoods1954]

@@Alienmojo I think the only CGI moment was when the Aliens head cracks. CGI to clean up around the edges of the rod puppet would make a lot of difference.

[@miller-joel]

​@@PeakedInterestSorry, but you left out the biggest behind-the-scenes piece. Rex Pickett.

[@rohanalias9053]

This is the reason why Fincher is kind of annoyed by studios like marvel .he despises studio interference

[@PeakedInterest]

I think that's pretty accurate. I don't think he'd be too impressed with their extremely tight schedules either

[@balthazarasquith]

Great video man. Can't stop laughing at the whippet though 😅

[@steveissexy]

alien 3 rocked.more scary than aliens.

[@PeakedInterest]

I like 1 2 and 3

[@steveissexy]

@@PeakedInterest 1 is my favourite

[@leesheppard6043]

I fell asleep during 3. In the theater. I've seen scarier stuff in the back of my fridge.

[@PeakedInterest]

@leesheppard6043 there's always one.... Everyone has their preferences. I didn't find it scary either but I do enjoy the movie.

[@GFrom]

I am really impressed. Great work on the Video!

[@PeakedInterest]

Thank you. I try to make sure I give full effort so the positive feedback is nice

[@KurtRiley]

Dynamic, concise overview. Troubled production notwithstanding, Fincher's aesthetic and tone is stunningly haunting.

[@PeakedInterest]

It shows his strength as a director that it's still pretty easy to identify the movie as his

[@ThisVideoAnnoyedMe]

Well, apparently you can also blame Sigourney "No Guns, Clone Me" Weaver too for ruining it...

[@Rschr101]

Nah

[@kenvelickoff4275]

Let Fincher finish it

[@kosaragolemshinska]

Another great video, it's very well researched and the presentation was spot on. I'm surprised the channel hasn't blown up more yet.

[@PeakedInterest]

Thank you. I love your name where is it from?

[@kosaragolemshinska]

@@PeakedInterest Thank you, too! I actually get a lot of puzzled looks when someone tries to read it :) I'm Bulgarian and the name is traditionally Bulgarian, too.

[@PeakedInterest]

Its a lovely name

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[@retter2critical]

20:57 What do you mean by "its the only film of the series with its own individual look"? The original has a very unique aesthetic we had never seen before.

[@PeakedInterest]

Industrial space had been done a few years before by John carpenter in dark Star. Scott refined the look and drastically improved it for alien but it wasn't new. Also I was referring to how its colour graded and lit too

[@retter2critical]

@@PeakedInterest Thats what I was referring to, not that it was on space ships, but the colour and lighting, it was like a complete re-vamping of film noir aesthetic, a film that would define the 80s BUT made in the late 70s. The use of thick atmosphere. Scott was really the first to put a certain stamp on cinema with that glossy advertising-influenced take on film noir. Part of a school of "British Visual Stylists". Fincher's film, though lacking that high contrast and having its own unique muted colour palette, must also be seen as being visually dirivitive of the original Alien. For the record, I quite like the Special Edition cut of this film, its just that the third act drags on too much. Everying before that is very interesting. I actually prefer it to Aliens, because it returns to a more serious tone, pristine and perfect cinemascope attack on the subject matter. In that sense, its more true to the original.. Aliens with that goofy car looks like it was designed to sell toys. Good video overall, I had just watched all the extra features on the Alien 3 special edition... This covered much of that, but with some new angles and information they would never include. So thanks for putting it together.

[@PeakedInterest]

No problem at all, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I think that's fair what you said about the revised film noir look of alien.

[@thebonebreaker4526]

Better than nolan

[@PeakedInterest]

I think fincher is better than Nolan in every way.

[@tylerdurden1656]

@@PeakedInterest technically better that's for sure.

[@jataviouswilliamson976]

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[@pyrobison2002]

I enjoy alien 3 for what we got

[@dazbry7612]

I love alien 3

[@GarrettLoganGriffin]

Alien 3 is hands down my favorite Alien movie. That assembly cut is something else man. Just makes it a more cohesive piece of cinema. Although I still like the dog from the theatrical cut as the host rather than the ox from the assembly cut. I feel like critics have proven themselves as inconsequential to the perception of movies. The audience always knows. And I never hear your average Joe hating on Alien 3. Great fuckin movie, man.

[@ElPato_rof]

As a big fan of Alien franchise, inlcuding novels and comics I hated alien 3 when released. Now in perspective I have learned to apreciate its value. Its not my favorite, but is a good closure to the trilogy. Prometheus and coventant are not cannon for me. And Alien 4 its a funny experiment.

[@Filmmaker809]

Very much enjoyed this. I knew when I used to live in Scotland what a mightmare Alien 3 was for David Fincher. Its always put me off making films in America. That's why I prefer films in Europe or the UK. Though our industry is suffering more so now in the Uk because of bloody Hollywood.

[@PeakedInterest]

It's a very difficult industry in which every person in the chain thinks it's "their" movie. If you ever saw the doc the death of superman lives it perfectly illustrated this problem. Also it's a great watch

[@Filmmaker809]

@@PeakedInterest Thanks man. Death of Superman? Is it something to do with Superman with Christopher Reeve?

[@PeakedInterest]

@Filmmaker809 no it's called the death of superman lives and it's the development hell documentary of the movie Kevin Smith tried to get into production and was just met with ridiculous producers the whole way. It certainly reflects my experience of the industry anyway

[@Filmmaker809]

@@PeakedInterest Thank you so much. Love Kevin Smith.

[@PeakedInterest]

@Filmmaker809 me too. Genuinely worth a watch. Really good doc.

[@elkanovitch]

What an absolute cluster fuck. I still love the movie though. It's beautifully dark and very original. All that kind of producer faff is still going on though isn't it. Look at how they butchered The Hobbit.

[@leesheppard6043]

There was nothing scary about 3. Zero atmosphere, crap story. I've been more entertained by the films of Ed Wood.

[@teresawyatt6825]

Alec Baldwin...that went so wrong. Looking back to find your shows. LOVE all you do.

[@AdmiralBison]

IF studio execs are so creative and love to interfere so much in the original vision of movies, why don't they don the director's hat and just directly make the god damn movies themselves?!? BUT that would mean they would get the credit AND the blame.

[@mykal.7424]

Not a fan of Alien 3. The Assembly cut is the best cut, but still a mess of writing and production problems . As much as i used to like Sigourney Weaver she is also responsible for a lot of the mess behind the scenes and her treatment of Ralph Brown

[@MyCatInABox]

So- I just finished watching your "Thalassaphobia" video, and now I'm watching this one...you got some really, REALLY good stuff. I'm now a Subscriber, and a die-hard fan.

[@LegendaryAwesome122]

Fincher was very much a director for hire and nothing else. His mistreatment by FOX says it all.

[@trypticon3293]

Idiot studio, idiot writers.... Pure madness that they couldn't make a proper sequel to Aliens. It would have been the easiest thing in the world to make a good story!

[@ngonzale3]

Somehow, It's still good. And the music of Elliot Goldenthal is among the best sci-fi scores.

[@VenusHeadTrap2]

Nice typo. Should be called "Fincher's Alien 3"

[@BS-hk8yi]

It made me want to riot when I saw it on the day it was released...

[@petervlcko4858]

They have no script and start production. Yeah. 👍 if you say that nobody will believe.

[@robertspencer1205]

Very well done, Lee. Keep up the good work! 👍

[@Vavanne33]

Wait, 4700 views for such a quality video ? I guess youtube algorythm isn't giving you the fame you deserve

[@poloshirtsamurai]

Alien 3 is my favorite. Followed by Alien then Aliens and then Alien Resurrection.

[@Rschr101]

Your assesment of Alien Resurrection and it pissing on the series' legacy is spot on and hilarious😂.

[@singaporeghostclub]

The best closure to the Alien trilogy… until resurrection and other movies related to it destroyed it

[@zacharyantle7940]

Fabulous. I knew the production of this was a nightmare but JESUS. You should look into Once Upon a Time In America for video, it’s so fascinating how eviscerated that wound up being.

[@PeakedInterest]

As long as the videos perform well I'll make more in this series but I'll be having a little break from long content for a month or two now. I've just done two 30min+ videos in quick succession

[@smalltown2223]

I don’t know why people slam this film, l really liked it. Granted it’s not as good as the first two, but isn’t that the way it goes.

[@benriddings]

Alien 3 is my preferred movie of the trilogy.

[@leesheppard6043]

It never occurred to all these studio apes that Aliens was the end of the franchise. Anything for a dollar.

[@leesheppard6043]

There is a reason that 3 bombed. It sucked sweaty gonads.

[@Rschr101]

My favorite Alien movie. Hope Fincher will come back someday and recut the film.

[@PeakedInterest]

I actually watched the assembly cut last night. It's about as close as we will ever get to his actual movie. It's a huge improvment on theatrical

[@Sabowie]

Poor Finchy! Sounds like a really crappy time

[@mygumybear]

Alien 3 is one of the best written character arc for both Dylan & Clemens. It was story over spectacle. The scene where Clemens runs with Ripley body form the beach to save her, in term of tone, music, visuals is simply awesome. Till today all the Alien series except for Alien 3 doesn't have serious character arch. Watched Alien 3 couple of times and it never bores you.

[@PeakedInterest]

I agree. It's a great movie which is disliked because people loved aliens and just wanted the same again.

[@BabarizamDK]

He is a franchise killer. Both for Alien and Star Wars.

[@brianclifford5791]

Wow! What another very interesting video. I do very much like a couple of David Fincher movies I've seen, (and in particular 'The Game'). I am very saddened he has quit Film making.

[@PeakedInterest]

Thank you. I'm a huge David fincher fan and it probably shows in my defence of the movie.

[@josiahstoehr1297]

It's the first time I've known specifics about the script and shooting process. I love Alien 3 as it is, I can't wrap my head around the idea that it was made in these circumstances. If only it could be possible to go back in time and have Fincher do exactly the film he wanted... That would be incredible.

[@PeakedInterest]

Agreed. I'm a huge fincher fan and I'd have loved to see the movie he wanted to make. It scared him away from big budget movies for a long time and almost made him go back to music video production. What a loss that would have been

[@xenomorphlover]

21:28 I'm happy that a Lannister approves 👌

[@keeponplaying]

Okay, I have to weigh in on this. The whole Alien 3 production saga is one of the most melodramatic Hollywood behind the scenes facades of all time. Thousands of movies have gone through countless script re-writes, heavy editing and changing directors. Fincher was hired to take over for another writer/director who had been fired, Vincent Ward. HE is the man who's "vision was compromised" NOT DAVID FINCHER. Fincher didn't have "a vision", he was not the writer, he was a director for hire, and came in when the majority of the story had already been decided on by the producers. People did not like the move for those decisions that were made. You cannot blame that on the production. He was clearly VERY ungrateful to be in the director's chair, and he clashed with the producer's over money...That's it! Audiences didn't like the bleakness of the story, killing of all the major characters, and poor story continuity(the unexplained egg for example). And on that matter, I read that Fincher's response was "The audience was just never suppose to question it". I strongly object to him washing his hands of it and pretending he was wronged just because his ego got hurt. HE was a huge part of the problem. And considering he walked away from the film before editing, any complaints in that department by him are also void. There is not one single scene or element that can actually be named that he didn't get to do. There was even a story about Fox refusing him to film a scene, so he grabbed a camera himself and filmed and yes..it is even in the final film. Jesus, people. How can so many people misinterpret what actually happens? Sorry for the rant, but this was a long time coming.

[@BS-hk8yi]

As a writer, all the staffing stuff aside, your story is doomed when you kill off most of the characters you spent time getting fans to care about. It's basic human psychology. It wouldn't have mattered what they made after that, it would all have been a flop...

[@gerbs4009]

First sensible and accurate response I have read. London film industry was awash with reports of his behaviour at the time.

[@Otokichi786]

Since the Cold War never ended and threatens a return to the Warsaw Pact era if Putin gets his way, William Gibson's version still works.')

[@Rschr101]

Yawn

[@sherbournesubwaymess]

Weaver clause: "No guns" Patrick Stewart Clause: "No TNG cast" Whenever actors get involved in the creative process, they wreck things.

[@jonharrison9222]

😂

[@shanecochran2491]

Actually the first two films were nominated for visual effects

[@PeakedInterest]

You're right, aliens even has it's own funny story about the nomination too.

[@gutsandblood9875]

I like his movies but was never keen on his screenplay

[@PeakedInterest]

Which screenplay lol there are about 17 different versions just that I read

[@finncustomtile]

As a kid, Alien 3 was my favorite one.

[@JeffBraman]

Alien 3 was nothing more than an abomination!! A money making piece of shit that did nothing but destroy canon.

[@PeakedInterest]

Everyone has their favourites. Personally I think alien is by far the best in the series, I like aliens but it strayed too far from the horror roots of the first movie and was just a war movie. I still enjoy it though, special edition anyway, theatrical cut is notnas good

[@musk3644]

So good. Thank you!

[@liskeke]

Didn't Weaver shave her head twice tho?

[@insidiousballer5775]

The director's cut is a completely different movie.

[@Rschr101]

Assembly* cut

[@bigkrutherford]

Wasn't there guns in Aliens?