The Creality CR-Scan Raptor Review - Is the Blue Laser a Game changer?

[@MakingforMotorsport]

If you are considering buying this there are affiliate links in the description…. And a cheeky 10% off discount code to say thanks!

[@sepultura729]

Atm i'm using a pop2 but I have my problems with tracing and there is no "undo" option in revoscan 5. I'm considering buying a new scanner, but i still don't know if einstar, otter or raptor..... The software should also be considered in my decision. I use my scanner for car parts like brake caliper, wheel carrier, suspension,..., in the future also complete engine bays. Which one would you recommend?

[@罗大陆-p4p]

I tested connecting the scanner to a power bank and it was very successful.

[@AzN_devil]

thanks for testing a scan inside the engine bay, this would be one of the most important feature of a 3d scanner in an automotive application personally

[@MakingforMotorsport]

You’re welcome, the issue with the engine bay scans is they are tricky and rarely look good compared to a subject on a turntable… glad you enjoyed it!

[@MrGTAmodsgerman]

Now time for a comparsion for all of the latest top models, EinScan vs Raptor vs Otter

[@nendhang]

hell yeah

[@SaifBinAdhed]

no comparison between industrial and consumer level scanners. always EinScan, I am not a fanboy, I just tried both, EinScan has a more all round package, creality will not support their products beyond one year, the software is way below par.

[@MrGTAmodsgerman]

@@SaifBinAdhed Well but it looks like the Otter at least comes with way better overall features then an EinScan. And that's where everyone can decide based on own perferences. Hence why it would worth showing a comparsion. Especially when Creality makes something that is technically almost on professional level.

[@SaifBinAdhed]

@@MrGTAmodsgerman I tried both, I stated my opinion, I wish that people realize that creality is a company that lives on trends, once that trend dies, so does the product. why should I invest in a product that the company will not support long term. I'd like to see one product from creality from five years ago that still has support today

[@xiangwang4464]

@@MrGTAmodsgerman EinScan 3D scanners are designed for users to enhance working efficiency, otter scanning can scan good features, but if you would like to get a professional experience, EinScan is better.

[@randelmatt]

The next video is SURELY an Einstar and Raptor shoot out.

[@GGrandi]

Thank for the test. I'd like to see you actually using the scanned information in actual project.

[@maikgoldmann5691]

Thanks for the review, there is so little out there about the Raptor right now. 14:21 Your comparison shows that the laser scanner is a different animal 😂 in this regard BUT I feel that the NIR part falls behind. The Raptor is not to be considered an upgrade to the Otter but a totally different unit with its own strengths and weaknesses.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

You’re bang on the money… the NIR is behind the Otter and Einstar. And they are different tools for different applications…

[@bobmoore1043]

Not sure about discounts but the Creality price seems to be going up very significantly every day this week! Add to this the fact that Creality do not seem to communicate in English, I think I will be looking elsewhere. Pity, it looks like a good bit of kit.

[@truetech4158]

I have scanned that exact arduino to make exact fitting case fittings, for the custom dashboard and such. Right on, brotherrrr!!

[@MidgetRacer8192]

maybe I missed it, maybe they aren't mentioned.... but is there a link for those 3d printed marker towers by chance? given they have more surfaces at more angles, they look like they will work a little better than the other models I have seen online.

[@mrkilroy9167]

How does the Raptor compare to the Einstar?

[@danialhowe9814]

ive got both had the raptor 1 hour so far - in a word BETTER considerably lighter / no tracking PLONK noise to make you insane / blue laser is sweet!

[@katywalker8322]

A 3d scanner is on my wish list. But the quality still seems to be improving rapidly.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Compared the first one I got 2.5 years ago the accuracy has improved slightly but they are much easier to use…

[@katywalker8322]

@@MakingforMotorsport suspect I would need to factor in the price of a new pc.

[@sheikx800]

Liked for being made aware of the word 'greebling'.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I must pass the credit onto AvE…

[@scottwexman5615]

Okay... (excluding price point) between the Einstar, Raptor and Otter - which scanner is your preference for ease of use, versatility, fidelity, and best software. Let's assume we are doing some reverse engineering and motorhead work. Is the Einstar still king? Thanks for the videos ;-)

[@justincoetzee6809]

The clever girl seems like a clever choice minus the software. My guess if you are going to try and put a set of bike carbs and ITBs on the back on the mini motor?

[@maxsparks3050]

Thanks for the review, first decent one on the raptor ive seen! In you experience with all the scanners you've used what would you recommend for full car scans (body, wheel arches, underbody) im mainly looking between the einstar, raptor or otter

[@Todestelzer]

Raptor isn’t made for full car body scans. I would chose the Einstar or Otter if you do it regularly. The Otter has the advantage to scan black and metal parts without scanning spray. The Einstar has the better software but needs a powerful PC.

[@derekaanenson6604]

Could you use NIR to capture the large portion of a vehicle and then the blue light to capture the fine details like mounting holes, etc?

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Absolutely!

[@colinig4411]

Best plug in theeee whaaaaaaaat???????

[@105colin]

Thanks for another great review, only thing holding me back from getting a scanner is the computer hardware requirements, what's most important Ram? Cpu? Cheers mate

[@DwightBrown-nn9jj]

Would you mind sharing your laptop specs? You had 40fps it looked like on the 1-2-3 block. Laptop Brand/Model CPU GPU RAM Thanks!

[@Warthog71]

Do you have any 3D scan to 3D print vids with keeping dimensions and tolerances in tact?

[@bobmoore1043]

On the verge of buying one......... I need to do some scanning outdoors with no mains power available - what is the voltage supplied from the mains adapter? Can I use a battery 'tank' to replace this? 5V? 12V?

[@THIRSTTRAPEV]

Hi mate just wondering do you recommend using pc or Mac for design would you say pc more compatible with all the different software and for storage

[@kepic8979]

Bike carbs on the Mini 👍 Something i want to try with a v8 one day.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Just gotta get stuck in, give it a go! (And your guess gets a mention!)

[@enyoc3d]

OK you sold me - ready to buy --> USA link... "Sorry, This discount code isn’t valid for the items in your order" - oh man, dang it, do you have a new one? thanks!

[@rossbrannigan3273]

next video suggestion: show us how to scan a complete cast aluminium engine or a shiny crankshaft...please

[@itaco8066]

Creality always lagging with software.. Scarry to buy such expensive product from them

[@MK-FreedomUSA]

For $1600 it better scan, design and print the parts for me. That’s more expensive than the printer I own.

[@maxdefire]

6:19 Absolutely not a fictitious scenario. Downloading a finished CAD model is much more difficult than scanning and postprocessing it.

[@KeopsTV]

Please review the Revopoint Range 2! I heard it's a big upgrade over the first generation.

[@astrucgaetan5499]

after watching your video I bought one , there are nice promotions on the site , even a combo with a resin printer. Frankly I have a creality lizard that was great but quite limited but given the competition. I bought a tidy2 revopoint last week and I did not like it at all, not disappointed but does not match to make the small to the large. And frankly, compared to créality, revopoint products are very, very expensive.

[@abovewongart]

This is a fantastic video. Especially the "greebling"

[@deanhedin1615]

You are taking the scans of the Mini TB's and engine area because going to 3d print an air cleaner housing.

[@phillyphil1513]

1:23 - "We're being hunted..." (best Muldoon voice)

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I couldn’t resist!

[@phillyphil1513]

@@MakingforMotorsport LOL

[@nicholaspatrick1200]

I csnnot seem to get the discount code to work, fyi. Please let me know weekend or if you can get this fixed and i will use your affiliate link if i haven't ordered elsewhere by that time.

[@AdamMaszynotwor]

Need help. Sorry, I use a translator. You tested various scanners and I don't understand what you are saying in the videos - is there a cheaper and better (or equally good) scanner from RAPTOR?

[@AlexYeomans]

Great video, still not convinced to get one due to price but watching closely. I think you are working on a controller for a water/alcohol injection system into intake - that what I want too!

[@johnrobie9694]

So... Raptor or Einstar for car parts / car bodies?

[@3dkiwi920]

Einstar.

[@jonwebb9261]

Einstars software is on another level to creality

[@1977meteor]

I need to scan a boat and based on watching these videos I'm going for the Einstar over the Raptor, and saving a few hundred quid at the same time.

[@3dkiwi920]

@@1977meteor Solid choice, you'll want a lot of markers, but the software is the best of the lot.

[@Todestelzer]

@@johnrobie9694 Einstar or Otter. Raptor isn’t for scanning bigger parts. FOV is narrow in laser or NIR mode.

[@eagl3007]

So does the raptor have less stringent requirements for PC hardware than the Eninstar prosumer?

[@3dkiwi920]

Einstar still slaps it for price by a long shot. I get 0.3mm volumetric accuracy over 1m parts.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I’ve never got that accuracy out the EinStar but it’s been a while since I tested it… if you don’t use the blue light on the Raptor it’s EinStar or Otter…

[@marty3469]

Next vid, designing a intake manifold for the mini , if not, it should !!

[@Todestelzer]

Raptor for small to medium and Otter/Einstar for big stuff. I use the Einstar software to post process the Raptor scans. To be fair with the creality alignment/merging tool, cloud compare isn’t better in automatically align the scans. Creality software is deleting original scans after merging and you can’t use orthogonal view for deleting unwanted point cloud data. Opening a previews scan can take 10min. AMD 5900x, SSD or RAM disk, 64gb RAM. Additional you get a RAM warning when scanning wich pauses the scan, even when I have still 40gb RAM left.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Haven’t tried using ExStar to process the Creality scans… 🤔

[@Todestelzer]

@@MakingforMotorsport yeah works great. You can import the cloud point data. Revoscan 5 works too. Only issue is you can’t merge cloud points with Exstar software.

[@TheBiscuitsandGravy]

I'm deciding between the einstar and raptor, also considering waiting a bit to see einstar's response. I haven't used either, but I have a lot of time on a creaform handyscan black. Can you output or input a STL file with either creality or einstar software? Creaform has it's own file type and you can pay extra to import directly to Solidworks(probably others too). From there I'd save everything as an STL so I had a 'universal' file for future use. I'm definitely more interested in whichever software can bring in one of those STLs so I can add to it. Do either softwares allow you to make a duplicate of a scan while editing so you can retain your original(since Creality's software deletes it)? How is the feature generation? Does it do ok at creating planes from surfaces? Can it create a circle on a plane from picking up a cylindrical hole? How about orienting a part in space?

[@Todestelzer]

@@TheBiscuitsandGravy Exstar scanning software has tools to create planes, lines and points and can do a alignment to xyz coordinate system but it’s NOT a reverse engineering Programm. These programs cost couple thousands of dollars unfortunately. But it can load a point cloud generated by Creality scan software. There is no merging/alignment for multiple cloud points I’m aware of. The Einstar can’t scan small parts like a game controller very well and has problems pick up black parts and the accuracy isn’t as good. The Raptor software has to improved. The scanner can scan very small parts and has little problems with black or metal parts but it needs markers for scanning in laser mode. It’s not as good with big objects as the Einstar.

[@RPJuniorBR]

The same with me. I also have 64GB and it stops the process after some amount of data. But the laser scan is amazing... I am trying to get used to CloudCompare to post process the point cloud... Powerful and open source...

[@henninghoefer]

I don't get it - why is the NIR mode of the Raptor so much worse than the Otter?

[@rollincoal1987]

Thanks for the video. With so many saying the einstar is better for pricepoint i think i will wait for this raptor to go on sale before i purchase. But i am familiar with blue light scanning in industry and know that it is an advantage over other consumer products. We use blue light scans to guide our robots to build cars. If a sale goes for this product id love to get one.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

If the blue light isn’t needed for the application then I’d agree with many commenters the Einstar is better, the NIR isn’t as good. But, the blue light gives this a weapon the Einstar can’t match!

[@rollincoal1987]

@MakingforMotorsport agreed. Somethings you need the finer details on. And with the ability to do both in one package, that really is a game changer for the consumer market for this type of product.

[@shustillerajcoomar4033]

​@@MakingforMotorsport in terms of scan quality. Which do you recommend. I'm torn between the raptor and einstar

[@nordenconrad14yearsago45]

Hello, Can scan large parts like a front bumper of a vehicle?

[@dsdkustom8143]

Great video. Where you get the little black markers?

[@seeMIL-s8f]

Hi. I’ve just bought an Otter, running on a i9-10885H 2.4GHz. Quadro RTX3000, 32GB ram. Tried a few scans starting with the owl and each time the software locks up with message “the software is not responding, please restart the software and try import again”. Any help you give would be appreciated. BR Colin

[@ali-sleimanchehade6129]

Which one did you find better? The Einstar or the Raptor?

[@hunt4kzn]

You making a custom intake, hoping with direct injection.

[@outdoortherapy6596]

And already Raptor x coming

[@riverracer]

Which would you choose being the best for engine bay/suspension/general car part scanning usage, Otter/Raptor/Einstar? Here in Australia, the Otter is about the same price as the Einstar, about 1400$AU.

[@3dkiwi920]

Einstar, I get 0.3mm VOLUMETRIC accuracy on parts over 1m long, not very good for small parts, amazing for panels.

[@Todestelzer]

@@riverracer Einstar or Otter. Einstar has the better software but it’s only good for bigger scans. Otter can scan black or shiny parts better. It also can scan small to big parts.

[@964cuplove]

Does any of these scanners have a similarly good osx software ?

[@StoneTL]

Can you do a video about 3D scanner Revopoint Miraco?

[@NuriBozkurt42]

It's so annoying to miss watching (trackin Lost)

[@OmnipresntGaming]

What is THE best scanner in this price range though? All these youtubers making reviews with free items sent to them but they cant pick a winner? Honestly this review might as well be "i used it, it was ok"

[@MakingforMotorsport]

That’s like buying a Car magazine and expecting them to tell you what the best car is… which is ridiculous. They don’t do that, they state the facts and figures and give opinions, to make YOU an informed buyer and make the better choice. Because they are writing the review for everyone reading, regardless of their requirements. A Ferrari is pretty good but useless if you want a minivan. But, unlike a car magazine, you can easily put a comment, so tell me your application and I’ll give you my opinion on the best scanner for you.

[@OmnipresntGaming]

@@MakingforMotorsport Sorry but pretty weak analogy to say the least, buying a car has thousands of variables; whereas there realistically is only three or four options for 3D scanners in and around the 1500 bracket which you are reviewing. My comment isn't actually asking for advice, but thank you; it is addressing the fact that some content creators create vague reviews disguised with detail. Because rather than giving a legitimate honest opinion. They keep it vague and hope people will click their affiliate link. Because who cares 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@bobmoore1043]

@@OmnipresntGaming...stick to gaming.

[@MarinusMakesStuff]

Looks like the Otter's NiR does a much better job than the Raptor's NiR.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

You’re absolutely right, Einstar is better too… but the Blue laser, if you need it, is next level…

[@eloscilatore]

Hi, I am producing a scale models for railway sceneries and I can create models in Inventor, but I would like to expand to figurines and speed up creation of small objects like tools and train parts. Would this device be the good choice for scanning people and tools or even the whole vehicles? Thanks

[@hunilideli2958]

What do u suggest gor scanning humans .

[@ForceEngineering]

what scanner would you prefer if you were planning to scan an entire car (top and bottom) for CFD work?

[@Justin-vq9co]

The Gairadge!

[@fbujold]

does the laser mode dangerous in face scanning?

[@Todestelzer]

You would have to cover the face with markers in laser mode 😂 Use NIR or better use the Otter with NIR because it pic up more details.

[@SgtMajor82]

What are your thoughts on Creality Raptor V EInstar at this level? I feel a downside to Einstar is that you need an Nvidia GPU!

[@sprlpy318]

Otter better einstar, raptor better x2

[@3dkiwi920]

Einstar is amazing for car panels.

[@sprlpy318]

@@3dkiwi920 lol

[@Todestelzer]

@@SgtMajor82 I wouldn’t compare Einstar / Raptor. Einstar / Otter do have the same use cases where Otter can scan small objects too.

[@thesailingdonkey]

My guess: Are you making a plenum for fitting a supercharger?

[@iThink.probably]

What are those little trackers you have on your turntable at 5:12? I could really use something like that for a current project I'm working on. If there is a model I could get from grabCAD that would be amazing. Thanks for the review! Very insightful.

[@geryrippl9709]

how is the Reverse Engineering (piccloud to cad ) program implementation on th raptor? AND how well would you say it works on scan sizes of +1sqm?

[@fredmols8428]

Has anybody have frame drop Problems with raptor? It works very well but has frame drop from 50fps to 20fps in the middle of scanning.

[@alexandershinkarenko3725]

It’s amazing :) using it for 2 weeks. My new favourite tool

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Great to hear!

[@NeoIsrafil]

Oof...those scans arent really any better than anything we had before detail-wise. right on par with the revoscan stuff and honestly...their stuff sucks. The whole line, absolute trash. (ive literally tested pop2 mini2 their controllable turntable and the Miraco and I cant imagine theres gonna be a lot of difference between them considering they all take very low quality, low detail (too low for printing) scans.

[@Paul-ph1mt]

I think it would have been more impressive on the beamer to have spread the markers out and scanned a larger area of the car that would be useful to have 3d model of like large single parts i.e. a quarter panel, a door panel, a plastic trim piece that's easily broken and replaced by a 3d print. You kinda got the bumper of the mini. That being said how memory intense is the software? What's the average size file of a small model compared to a large one? How much RAM is being used during scanning/rendering? I noticed you said it performed better connected to your laptop. Did you mention a price? I'm not intending to be super critical of the video. I'm genuinely curious and all but the last one aren't the kinds of questions are usually answered by ad. Thanks for the vid. I pushed the buttons. Keep up the good work.

[@rushboardtechuk]

I still think an external battery solution would be helpful for the Otter and Raptor - in fact, such an accessory would likely support most portable 3D scanners in their class. Since you are doing an electronics project for motorsport, I assume this is a temperature or fuel management controller? Using a Mini for rally is common, but not so much with the BMW. This means it would require a separate interface to monitor fuel pressure and engine temperature, when under high torque at speed.

[@HardeepSingh-gw9im]

The software update blocks at 26 percent when trying to mesh the point cloud. This is incredibly frustrating and wastes so much time. It is a huge problem that needs fixing.

[@allenkimhee5141]

Hope you can make a video and try out Kiri Engine a 3d scanner apps on your automobile project which you can easily scan anything just with your mobile phone. Most importantly the apps is free. Cheers!

[@harshrathee401]

The software lacks basic user-friendly features and does not support ultrawide monitors, making it very frustrating to use for detailed work. This is such a huge letdown.

[@RogerHerrera-r2p]

Just got mine and software keeps crashing when I try to scan a front end of a vehicle to design a bumper. I used infrared mode with marker tracking and during the scanning process the software freezes and doesnt save any data. I've tried scanning smaller and smaller sections of the front end while trying many different settings (geometry and marker tracking) but still no luck. Very frustrating and I'm thinking about returning it.

[@knaresh675]

The raptor requires an insanely powerful PC to work properly, and even then, the software is super unstable and unreliable. It is really hard to justify the high cost when the performance is this bad.

[@occasionalriders1885]

Hi, I have some questions, I have to buy a new scanner (before I had the cr scan 01 that I sold) I usually scan engine parts (usually 2 stroke engine) and motorcycle fairing But in the near future I have to scan an engine bay and an engine to design the intake for a prototype I’m stuck between otter and raptor cause for some work one is better than the other and vice versa but actually I can buy only one What do you advice? My biggest concern is the space in the engine bay with fitted engine, I think it’s small for the raptor to do a good job, but with the laser I can have better resolution in other models (and no problem with dark or reflective parts) I have to say that most of the time fairings and other things are black or dark (cf or something like that)

[@MakingforMotorsport]

If I could only have one scanner it would be the Otter. The laser in the Raptor is a good trick, but ultimately one that’s not too useful for automotive, unless for example you want to do an engine/gearbox adaptor scan…

[@occasionalriders1885]

@@MakingforMotorsport so, do you think otter good enough to find head plane and screw position to create an intake manifold for a 4stroke engine? ( like you do in the video with your mini?) Is it also good enough for motorcycle fairings? (My latest work was about replicate some parts on an old aprilia gp after a crash (smallest parts is about 20x20cm) Latest question I have to buy also a new computer cause actually my main is a little bit old and with shit (in 2024) components I’m stuck between a dell workstation with 13850hx and Rtx 4000ada or save some money and a hp workstation with 13900h (or 13700hx) with rtx 2000 I usually use solidworks and fusion 360, actually I’m trying to learn blender and in my new work I start using Siemens nx I don’t know if it is worth spending 1000+€ and buy the better one or save some money (actually I have an old 6800k and a 1060 and they do their job with a lot of patient and frustration) Thanks a lot for you availability

[@rob_over_9000]

I wonder if Einstar will come out with a competitor for this accuracy-wise. It seems like the battle for best bang for your buck is heating up, and that’s good for all of us!

[@laukeshkumar2394]

My raptor crashed multiple times during manual merging, and the software has become slow and unreliable after the latest update. Seriously, it needs a lot of improvement to be usable.

[@slomo4056]

Could you please share a link where you got this half cut tracker balls that you put around the objects to support better tracking? Thanks

[@scottk3292]

This is the first of your videos which I've seen, but have you ever tried using "dulling spray" (from film/video production) on the shiny surfaces prior to scanning?

[@frankschuler2867]

Nice review! I got the Scan Lizard via the Kickstarter and have honestly been pretty impressed with the performance (provided the object being scanned is properly prepped, i.e., non-reflective and not hairy, haha...). I mostly work with small objects (action figure stuff and similarly sized items). It works decently especially with the newer software. The software is still buggy, and getting multiple scans to merge properly is a challenge...but I'm usually able to get everything I need in just one scan, fortunately.

[@RakeshMakwana-qp1ju]

Aligning scans is an absolute nightmare. Even a slight misalignment ruins the entire process, and it feels like there might be a bug in the software. This needs to be fixed urgently.

[@Spedley_2142]

Why doesn't it recognise markers and replace them with the flat surface underneath?

[@HermitFab]

Great vids mate, Have you had a chance to try out a Revopoint Miraco yet? Is the Einstar still your favorite go to scanner?

[@Teif-1000]

hey exstar has a feature under "measurements" that allows you to align your scan to xyz right in the software. i think you had left this out of your einstar videos. does the creality software have this function?

[@ArtificialMaze]

Raptor VS Otter is it worth paying 500 extra?

[@Keasbeysknight]

Are you making a chair like George Clooney made in burn after reading?

This or the shining einstar?

[@rickjames9920]

Revopoint miraco pro needs to be your next video please please please and how you think about not having to have a computer to drag around everywhere

[@johnmortimer7782]

Isn't scanning someone's face with a blue laser dangerous for their eyes?

[@Dotec3D]

So I would keep the otter or einstar. Doesn't seem to be worth the +500€

[@Nazrac79]

The newer software seems to align better as well.

[@mwjmiller42]

Einstar or raptor?

[@rrrated]

Me waiting patiently for Vega review 🤐

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Working on it!

[@criticaltlr1]

I think you are going to fit the bike carbs on the mini so maybe you'll make a inlet manifold

[@Ste-_.]

It’s actually named after a bird of prey….not the velociraptor 😂😂

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Weeeeeeeell… in theory, it’s named after every bird of prey…. Which, according to certain theory’s of evolution includes the Velociraptor… The bigger problem is that the actual Velociraptor was the size of a chicken.

[@Ste-_.]

@@MakingforMotorsport let’s agree on a common interest….we’ll call it as it was named after the f22 raptor 😂😂

[@AndyLaurence]

Love these reviews. Still on the fence - i used a Kinect for scanning a car 9 years ago and have yet to use another scanner. Are you really goingh to give a shout out for guessing the bike carbs on the mini, presumably heading towards ITBs?

[@Jergling]

FINALLY a review of this scanner that's been out for a year, but somehow only had paid demos and spokespeople talking about out.

[@evanmolnar1351]

What Ziess inspection software are you running? Is it the full version?

[@mrlt1151]

Greebling is 80's and 90's Pontiac cars in a word.