The Creation Of A 22.5" Timothy Roberts Handcrafted Cymbal

[@C_475]

dude that blank sounds awesome

[@Lupine.]

It sounds better than some finished dry rides

[@johnmckenna1776]

Absolutely!

[@chris_d_r_u_m_s]

Not going to lie I would straight up buy that blank haha

[@RalphOnofrio]

I liked that cymbal at every stage, it had a thing to offer....The finished product is a masterpiece.Very nice......

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Thanks!

[@net6403]

on one hand: i cannot even begin to comprehend what it takes to make a cymbal as well as you do and the amount of time it must take plus the amount of knowledge you have is genuinely incomprehensible to me but on the other hand god i wish there was a lower budget series by you because if each ride you made wasnt 400-600 gbp there’d be literally no contest against any other cymbal manufacturer

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Thanks! Yeah, price point is a tough thing... The amount of time it takes for me to make my cymbals is significantly more than what you find with a big box company. I could offer my cymbals for less but it would mean cranking them out and not worrying if they are properly balanced or not.

[@johnohod]

Fun and interesting video to watch! I think I actually liked it best before lathing

[@aMan-or9ij]

I love the version you're holding at the end of the video the most.

[@kkupsky6321]

I love this guy. Give him all the money the promoter owes me. Awesome work mate.

[@nilshigdon]

I always smile when you talk about how thin your cymbals are. I have 20 inch ride that weighs 1610 grams and I love it.

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Ooohh that’s thin. Love it!

[@nilshigdon]

@@ReverieDrumCo I can send you a video if you want!

[@ReverieDrumCo]

@@nilshigdon sure! my email is [e-mail]

[@christskingdom8950]

I liked the finished product.

[@samlagreca9283]

Loved all the different changes of what you did ! All very musical. I think the last one is my favourite? But they all sound awesome

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Thanks Sam!

[@earldrum]

Timothy, I have watched two of your cymbal videos and your passion of this craft comes through. You have an amazing ears for hearing cymbals and crafting a beautiful cymbal. I subbed just to listen to your beautiful pies and your passion. by the way … I LOVE THE FINAL version, but I could have taken any of the earlier version and used them on a gig! 👍🏻🥁

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Thank you! I really do love this art form!

[@net6403]

raw unlathed series in the future potentially? i know a lot of people looking for a sound like the unlathed one (im “a lot of people” honestly reminds me of a sabian monarch ride

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Yeah, I've been toying with the idea of an unlathed series!

[@jeffreyalexander7504]

Very nice cymbal! Super talented cymbal maker!

[@scottyhughes9179]

A great cymbal vid... I preferred the stick articulation of the cymbal with the one pass lathing on the top surface. Or the one right after that... that last version the stick gets lost in the swell...

[@infinitecreativityondrums8367]

I'm enjoying your drumming as much as your cymbal crafting skills!

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Thank you!

[@ARDrummer]

Turned out amazing...very nice work!

[@Seldom_Bored]

First pass after the top-lathe for me. Sounded cool as a turk too, great video!

[@prophettatenda2793]

Thats great . I love thin cymbals i grind them might try your hummering style

[@zhou_sei]

it's a tough choice between the hammered/ unlathed and the partially lathed, but i think i agree with you that the partially lathed is the best version... still, the end product is quite nice; the wash really kinda blooms.

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Thanks!

[@jhardycarroll]

Love watching this process. I am a cymbal junky big time, especially these hand-hammered ones. Well worth the price. I liked the partially lathed one for a rock or blues application. Dry and smoky. Overall, the last iteration was my favorite because of the complexity.

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Thanks Joshua!

[@christianolivera6349]

Awesome video. Lots on educational info and enjoyed all versions of your project man. Good work. Cheers!

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Thank you!

[@fog152]

Hats off, this is insane!!

[@billbigler1366]

Super cool video here. I am trying to describe what is in my own mind about what a perfect ride cymbal would be for me. Keep up the great work. Bill.

[@peterhansson7967]

I agree with you about when it sounded the best 😇

[@kspocketngroove3973]

i want the version at 4:16 , it's beautiful !!! well balanced, it's got all: stick definition, nice open wash when crashed and that beautiful dark hum underneath! How can i order a same one?

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Thanks! I really like that version too. I've got an commission form on my website! Here's the link: reveriedrums.com/customorders

[@pupoctus]

Man that is totally amazing!

[@archisalcedo7045]

It will be very nice if you talk about the relationship in terms of sound between the different type of drumstick tips and the cymbals, many thanks!

[@ReverieDrumCo]

I'm actually filming a video covering that topic this week! Great timing! haha

[@jhardycarroll]

@@ReverieDrumCo We discussed that Bill Stewart / Brian Blade choking the stick technique to get that "click," but I was watching a Buddy video and saw he did it too.

[@paulbukkens3773]

My man! Great insights, I love it. Very interesting. Can’t really decide yet which sound I like most 😄

[@davewestner]

Man, how cool that you can create your own cymbals like that. Seems like way too much fun. I'm impressed with how good the blank sounds TBH. Woulda thought that thing woulda sounded like a garbage can lid. But my favorite tailored sound is the 2nd to last one. I would be stoked to have that one and the blank on some stands in front of me. Or as hats.

[@lilbacon7777]

I feel like this video proves it's all about the material the cymbal is made out of.

[@davewestner]

@@lilbacon7777 It's interesting to me that the blank sounded so good. I can't recall, but I'm sure it's a b20 cymbal, which I'm sure is a big help. But it's definitely interesting to me how Paiste manages to make some really great cymbals out of b8 or b12. Point being, I think the hammering is a pretty important part of it too

[@lilbacon7777]

@@davewestner Good insight, I honestly didn't realize Paiste had b12 cymbals. I think you're right. "all about the material" is a bit much. Would be so fun to get my hand on a cymbal blank and hammer one.

[@davewestner]

@@lilbacon7777 Well, I actually had to look and I mis-remembered....it's B15 that Paiste uses for their Signature line. If they make b12, it's probably lower end cymbals, That said, the 2002 alloy is B8, so I got that right. Anyway....do it! hammer a cymbal! The blanks aren't too expensive. Can't imagine lathes are cheap though.

[@bigboy892]

@@davewestner do you know where one could purchase a blank?

[@bonzomio]

Great work, Tim! Sounds great ... all versions! Can't wait for you to modify my K Con. (Mike in Omaha).

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Thanks Mike!

[@kt-nf2jx]

I really like the latin grooves you play. Have you studied any particular book with such grooves., or could you please recommend one?

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Thanks! It's mostly been by listening to records that I've learned them. Check out Elvin Jones' latin grooves (YT search will give it to you), Medeski, Martin, Wood tune "Latin Shuffle", and generally anything latin jazz you can find on YT. Drumeo has a good video on Elvin Jones that has a breakdown of a couple grooves. Rick Dior has a series on "Afro-Cuban rhythms" that's really great too.

[@kt-nf2jx]

@@ReverieDrumCo Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer!

[@drew_on_drums]

Honestly i dig the half lathe, maybe bring that to layer bring more bright overtones

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Yeah absolutely!

[@HA11EYS_COM3T]

Where can I get one of those blanks those sound so cool

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Any foundry will sell you a blank. Most are in Turkey, but my favorite is in Brazil, Domene Cymbals.

[@UCS0608]

Question: do you buy the blanks and modify them or do you make the whole cymbal yourself? Nice video!

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Thanks! I buy my blanks from a foundry in Turkey and completely hand hammer and lathe the cymbals in my shop (even some of my bells are hand formed)

[@drumswest]

Awesome--completely unlathed for me! I got some blanks from Wuhan. Where do you get yours? They seem like much higher quality. Your knowledge is outstanding! So fun to watch and learn from.

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Thanks! I get mine from Turkey. They make the best b20 in my opinion.

[@kkupsky6321]

Mg drums had a miserable cold. I caught pneumonia but we hugged it out. How much does that affect the brittleness?

[@ReverieDrumCo]

haha it's possible!

[@kkupsky6321]

@@ReverieDrumCo I never heard of the letting em rest but I’m usually just making stick marks. Unless you’re Wally hammering at it do cymbals crack more in the cold? I really should be nicer to them but I do give them the business. Makes sense for like work hardening

[@briane.paulson]

🎉

[@Puebow]

Musically (styleistaclly), where do you come from?

[@ReverieDrumCo]

I studied jazz and classical in college and I’ve done quite a bit of gigging in jazz, folk, rnb, funk, church, and rock settings.

[@scottkania594]

The cymbal , first time.

[@rsilvers129]

I doubt resting changes the sound of a cymbal. If you programmed a robot to strike it and recorded the sound right after hammering and a week later, it would probably sound the same.

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Well, I do this every day and I can tell you it makes a huge difference, sonically. I've got some videos where I play a cymbal right after hammering and also 12 hrs later and it's very noticable.

[@dudukadafonseca6616]

YES!!!

[@johnskoczen4936]

Do you have a site or a shop?

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Yep! Reveriedrums.com/shop

[@shawnmaclean4740]

Where do you get cymbal blanks??

[@ReverieDrumCo]

I order them from one of the major foundries in Turkey.

[@dudukadafonseca6616]

ohh crash can take over the stick.....

[@liamdempsey7072]

kinda mad about it but i actually like the cymbal blank lmao

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Amazing how good the blanks can sound huh?

[@mattysqueezesofficial]

I’d rather take the cymbal blank over the overall finished cymbal. Cymbal blank sounds so much better.

[@ReverieDrumCo]

Different strokes I guess!

[@kkupsky6321]

He means 46 cm.