The Crellin-Duplex Half-Deck Coach: The Bus Designed by a Shady Businessman [UK Bus History]

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Jeffrey Ornstein

Jeffrey Ornstein

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In 1949, the first of 20 odd half-deck coaches appeared. The product of a somewhat shady businessman, George Crellin (who had other aliases), he convinced the Lincs Trailer company, who had never built a bus before, to construct the first half-deck, which then became known as the Crellin Duplex.
Prior to building the bus, Crellin secured a British patent for its design.
Although Crellin convinced Lincs that 1,500 will be sold over a three-year period, the reality is that only 20 were built.
See and hear the story of the Crellin-Duplex Half-Deck Coach!!
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@tango22ah
@tango22ah 5 ай бұрын
I think for us 50/60 year old Brits you are opening our eyes to some phenomenal vehicles we never even knew existed on our own shores. Brilliant stuff as ever Jeffrey
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Thank you very much for your very nice comment!!! Thanks for watching!
@binarydinosaurs
@binarydinosaurs 5 ай бұрын
Very much this, I had no clue these were a thing. I knew about the Bulleid train, but a bus too?! Also, the preserved unit is not far from me so I need to go see.
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 4 ай бұрын
There's a terrible amount that boomer Brits weren't allowed to know, which explains the UK's current state of disrepaor
@RML2305
@RML2305 2 ай бұрын
MJH 510 was operated by Oliver Taylor Coaches of Caterham, Surrey. I travelled on this coach every schoolday in the 1957- 1958 period. It operated to the Regina Coeli school in Pampisford Road, South Croydon. The centrally positioned sliding door was operated by the most senior, trusted pupil. As the door was out of sight of the driver, the door boy, or door girl would press a buzzer after closing, to indicate that the driver could pull away. It was important that the door boy/girl was not only the most trusted, but that he or she travelled the length of the journey each day from and back home to Caterham. I was entrusted with door duties on one or two afternoons, but living short of the terminus in Old Coulsdon, I had to abandon my duties when we got to my local stop and hope that another child would work the doors on the remaining stops. Safety concerns have changed considerably since those innocent days. Peter M
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 2 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks very much for relaying your experience with MJH 510 - very interesting! And thank you for watching!
@jackpayne4658
@jackpayne4658 5 ай бұрын
As a teenage bus fan in the 1960s, I saw a photo of one of these - and was fascinated. But later, talking to fellow bus fans and even knowledgable bus historians, nobody knew what I was talking about. I started to think that I had imagined the whole thing. But then, I learned that there was a preserved example - so they did exist after all!
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Interesting - but now you know the whole story, LOL! Thanks for watching!
@stevedavis3828
@stevedavis3828 5 ай бұрын
I am 64 years old and from the UK. I have never heard of these coaches before and am astonished that they ever existed. I knew of Allenways Coaches of Birmingham but was unaware of this coach, I drove coaches from 1978 to 2014 and have never heard of these oddballs. Great video.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! I'm really glad you found the video interesting! Since there were so few of these built, I can understand that they are not very well known. I believe the last went out of service in 1968. Amazing that one has survived. Thanks so much for watching!!!
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 5 ай бұрын
Depends if you read Alan Miller or having booth books
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 5 ай бұрын
​@@JeffreyOrnsteinsimilar were the duplex southern railway train carriages
@trevorhorton8472
@trevorhorton8472 5 ай бұрын
I'm 71 years old from England and have worked for the railways and must confess never to have seen any of them. Well done with excellent research.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello!! I'm really glad you liked the video!! Thanks for watching!
@jeffclark2725
@jeffclark2725 5 ай бұрын
The guy was a real salesman, and with the patent that he recieved, he was able to slip through the cracks and got a 3rd party to build these bus, coach, thumbs up, great video
@stevedavis3828
@stevedavis3828 5 ай бұрын
Hi Jeffrey, thanks for the response, there's a number of museums and collections across the UK for PSV vehicles. My closest is probably at Wythall, Worcestershire.
@jeffclark2725
@jeffclark2725 5 ай бұрын
@@stevedavis3828 Would be interesting to see the school bus fleet they use across the pond, compared to our slow outdated fleet we have here in the USA
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! You are right, he must have been a real fast-talker!! Glad you liked the video! Thanks for watching!
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Oh yes, I see there's lots of bus museums there, which is great! Thanks for watching!
@getinthevantim
@getinthevantim 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Jeffrey. Your presentations are fascinating and, as others have mentioned, illuminating to those of us surprised to never have heard of the Crellin-Duplex coaches. The preserved example is very beautiful and a credit to its conservator.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! I'm really glad you liked the video!!! Thanks for watching!
@tactikzzF1R3
@tactikzzF1R3 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Jeffrey.......yet another fascinating video. Thoroughly enjoyed it!
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello!! I'm really happy you found the video fascinating!!! Thanks for watching!
@Queensburyheights
@Queensburyheights 5 ай бұрын
I was born in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire in 1946 and I remember travelling on one of these strange vehicles when I was young sometime in the early 1950s. Unfortunately I have no idea which particular model it was or who was the owner. For most of my later years I was a London bus driver, retiring at age 60 in 2006; the last buses I drove being Mercedes Citaro articulated single deckers, a complete contrast to the Crellin.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Wow, at least you got to ride in one!! Thanks for watching!
@Queensburyheights
@Queensburyheights 5 ай бұрын
@@JeffreyOrnstein Yes. I have been interested in buses and coaches (and trains for that matter) almost since I could walk and I remember the Crellin very clearly as it was so radically different to all the other vehicles that I had travelled on up to that point.
@StephenAllcroft
@StephenAllcroft 5 ай бұрын
I know Ripponden and District had one, perhaps it was theirs you rode on.
@Queensburyheights
@Queensburyheights 5 ай бұрын
@@StephenAllcroft Thanks for that information. Yes, that seems quite possible but unfortunately I really can't say for sure. Our family went on a day trip to somewhere from Dewsbury and the coach must have been a Crellin as I distinctly remember the interlocking compartments, something which I had never seen before. I must have been around seven at the time so the year must have been around 1953. Thanks again.
@Guitar6ty
@Guitar6ty 5 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Thank you for your very nice comment! Much appreciated! Thanks for watching!
@autumnmatthews3179
@autumnmatthews3179 5 ай бұрын
This is a fascinating video. I've seen the double decked train in pictures but I've never even heard of these buses so thank you for giving us a look at them. I must admit I smiled when I saw Mann Egerton appear because I live in Norwich
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! I'm really happy you found the video interesting!! Thanks for watching!!
@johnrafferty8087
@johnrafferty8087 4 ай бұрын
Thanks. Love your Videos and content . Thanks
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 4 ай бұрын
Hello! I'm really glad you like my videos!!!!! Thank you very much for watching!!!
@chaam4736
@chaam4736 5 ай бұрын
Excellent work Jeffrey. Well done and thank you.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! I'm really glad you liked the video! Thanks for watching!
@swanvictor887
@swanvictor887 5 ай бұрын
wow....I'm 60 and have been a bus addict since I was 3....but have never heard of these! or Seen them! Amazing. Incredible work Jeffrey, well done. Awesome video. What a strange vehicle!
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! I'm glad you found the video interesting!! Thanks for watching!
@andrewberry6194
@andrewberry6194 5 ай бұрын
Amazing certainly never heard of it!
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! I'm very glad you liked the video! Thanks for watching!!
@paulnolan1352
@paulnolan1352 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Jeffrey for an interesting overview of this peculiar Coach. Your research is awesome.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello Paul! I'm glad you foudn the video interesting!! Thanks for watching!
@justinhamilton497
@justinhamilton497 5 ай бұрын
I always look forward to... Hi, this is Jeffrey!
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! I really appreciate your nice comment!! Thanks for watching!
@johncourtneidge
@johncourtneidge 5 ай бұрын
Many thanks! The last one was very stylish!
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! I'm happy you liked the video!! Thanks for watching again!
@roberthuron9160
@roberthuron9160 5 ай бұрын
Having put time,and commuting on the Long Island Railroad,those DD's,were very familiar,and yes,you could play kneesies with utter strangers! There was one item,you overlooked,as those cars,were some of the first aluminum carbodies,ever produced,and many successful commuter cars,are the progeny of that class! Thank you 😇 😊!
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Glad you liked the video! Didn't know the duplex LIRR cars were aluminum. Thanks for watching!
@jadeboswell-rz2ly
@jadeboswell-rz2ly 5 ай бұрын
Hello Jeffrey, well done, a very interesting video.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! I'm glad you found the video interesting!! Thanks for watching!
@StephenAllcroft
@StephenAllcroft 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Jeffrey for illuminating another obscure corner. The other place the duplex seating arrangement was seen prior to this Manx gentleman getting a British patent was in Italy where a Lancia 6 wheeled bus was built with the front section having interlaced seating and the section from the rear axles back having a conventional lower deck and a lowbridge upper deck. I have seen videos of very modern duplex coaches in use in the indian subcontinent, even one with duplex seating in the main saloon and pods with car-style doors where the luggage hoild normally is: Like the Lancia it is billed as a triple decker.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Thanks for the additional information! Thanks for watching!
@officialmcdeath
@officialmcdeath 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, you've given me an additional reason to visit Lowestoft again \m/
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Glad you liked the video! Thanks for watching!
@superted6960
@superted6960 5 ай бұрын
I too have never come across these vehicles before. Apparently their seating capacity was in the order of 50 or so, going something for a vehicle of this size. BEA (airline operator for the uninitiated) ordered 65 half deckers that looked superficially similar (emphasis on superficial) but on Regal IV chassis. I can't find their carrying capacity, but likely sub 40. The railway related coaches were also a failure. On UK commuter railways dwell times at stations is important, and getting people on and off just took too long. Excellent vid today 😊
@jeffclark2725
@jeffclark2725 5 ай бұрын
Yes time is kept very tight on the railway
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 5 ай бұрын
While probably not as much of a problem with busses ​
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Oh yes, those BEA airport buses were quite interesting! Thanks for watching!
@smet145
@smet145 5 ай бұрын
What a weird and interesting coach. Excellent video, Jeffrey 👍
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! I'm really glad you liked the video! Thanks for watching!
@TheAllMightyGodofCod
@TheAllMightyGodofCod 5 ай бұрын
The best way to travel is facing backwards! I love it and when on a train I always book a rear facing seat.
@DaleSteel
@DaleSteel 5 ай бұрын
Are you backwards tho?
@TheAllMightyGodofCod
@TheAllMightyGodofCod 5 ай бұрын
@@DaleSteel bro, you might need some extra English classes. Just saying.
@DaleSteel
@DaleSteel 5 ай бұрын
@@TheAllMightyGodofCod I don't understand.
@TheAllMightyGodofCod
@TheAllMightyGodofCod 5 ай бұрын
@@DaleSteel Yeap. I already knew that.
@DaleSteel
@DaleSteel 5 ай бұрын
@@TheAllMightyGodofCod im very confused by your strange statements. I'm more convinced than ever that you are indeed backwards
@paulmason329
@paulmason329 5 ай бұрын
Manchester Corporatio had a small batch of Leyland Royal Tigers had a similar body to the Crellin Duplex. These were painted blue and used on their airport service, the extra space for luggage. Liverpool Corporation had four Leyland Royal Tigers rebodied as half deck airport coaches by MCCW in 1961. The raised section at the rear end was to enable luggage, with rear passengers having to go upstairs over the luggage storage. These only last for five years as airport coaches before being transferred to private hire and were also used on the Liverpool Lime Street Station to Isle of Man and. Irish ferry shuttles. The batch was numbered XL171-174 and XL171 is preserved.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Thanks for the detailed info on the Liverpool Royal Tigers! I looked them up and they have a front windshield like an American Flxible New Look bus! Thanks for watching!
@paulmason329
@paulmason329 4 ай бұрын
The General Manager of Liverpool City Transport had a photo of a US Flxible coach with "Airport Coach?" written in the GMs handwriting so he probably consulted with the MCCW body builders in 1960. The chassis dated from 1954 but we're run as driver operated two doorway buses as SL171-174 before rebodying, the original bodies were scrapped. Thanks again Jeffrey.
@theenergyflowtribejamesbro1302
@theenergyflowtribejamesbro1302 5 ай бұрын
There was the deck and a half AEC Regals used by British European Airways. These were perhaps the most successful two-level coaches, succeeded by the 65 Route masters in 1966/67. Certainly less horsebox looking than these earlier Crelin vehicles.
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 5 ай бұрын
Great word (horsebox) to describe them...
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Yes, those were interesting buses! Thanks for watching!
@theenergyflowtribejamesbro1302
@theenergyflowtribejamesbro1302 5 ай бұрын
@@JeffreyOrnstein Something that listeners may be interested in is the origins of the coach operator Samuelson's, subsequently known as Samuelson's New Transport which then became a part of National Travel (South East). The origins and capital came from money made from the film industry. Might make for a fascinating video topic.
@NickRatnieks
@NickRatnieks 5 ай бұрын
It looks like something that Dan Dare might fly in- it's from his era! An interesting vehicle which seems to have been hyped to quite a level but failed to take off.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Oh yes, I agree with you!! Thanks for watching!
@johnmontgomery9149
@johnmontgomery9149 5 ай бұрын
Another brilliant video
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! I'm really happy you liked the video!! Thanks for watching!
@sprint955st
@sprint955st 5 ай бұрын
I need t visit the EA Transport Museum to check this out. Great video.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Glad you liked the video! Thanks for watching!
@cliffboulton8763
@cliffboulton8763 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for a very interesting video, Jeffrey. I'd certainly never seen nor heard of these Coaches before. I would have loved to have ridden in one that's for sure.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello Cliff! I'm glad you found the video interesting! Oh yes, must have been interesting to ride in one! Thanks for watching!
@towgod7985
@towgod7985 5 ай бұрын
Another interesting video, thanks Jeffrey
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! I'm very glad you found the video interesting!! Thanks for watching!!
@mootpointjones8488
@mootpointjones8488 5 ай бұрын
I haven't ridden in one of these but I did ride in something similar in Mexico in the late 90s. Crellin sounds like the Terry Thomas of coach travel 😂
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! LOL, interesting comparison!! Thanks for watching!
@maestromanification
@maestromanification 5 ай бұрын
Great video Jeffrey on such an unusual vehicle. I saw the preserved one last year (its not too far from where I live) my first thoughts was it was very similar to 4DD didn't realise it was inspired by them. I was also lucky enough to have a look round a derelict 4DD driving vehicle about 25 years ago in Kent. That and a couple of other historic vehicles had been abandoned and were in bushes on railway that was later ripped up for channel tunnel rail link to be built. I think it got saved. Was a very odd unit and wouldn't have been easy to get to or from upper seats if busy. This was part of their downfall as station times were excessive. There was no through gangway in those one lower compartment led to one upper one throughout the vehicle Keep the excellent videos coming Cheers Russ
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello Russ! I'm really glad you found the video interesting!! And yes, that seating arrangement must have been quite difficult to deal with whether in a bus or train! Thanks for watching!
@stanleybest8833
@stanleybest8833 5 ай бұрын
I like it. Just the right height and lots of baggage compartments. A Prevost is almost that tall.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Yes, not too big and not too tall! Thanks for watching!
@crabbymilton390
@crabbymilton390 5 ай бұрын
Almost need a map to find your seat😀. A VAN-HOOL TDX would work much better now with more room, quiet, and more easily for the customer to configure it. Much like an executive coach. Great presentation Jeffery.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! LOL, yes I think a map would be good! Thanks for watching!
@timbounds7190
@timbounds7190 5 ай бұрын
Fascinating things, though probably rather impractical! The key benefit was that you could get rather more passengers into the same length than a normal single decker, and probably more luxurious (and lower) than a full double decker. As you say expensive to make, and it must have been rather hot on a sunny day! The trains weren't that successful either, though they lasted for a long time in active service. The trouble with the trains was that they were on a crowded commuter service, and the seating arrangement made for slow loading and unloading at stations, and the top deck windows, being curved due to the restricted loading gauge, made the upper seats cramped and were unventilated (no air-con in those days!), so very hot - and with half the population smoking in those days, they must have been seriously unpleasant on hot crowded commuter journeys! As for the buses, of course as soon as longer vehicles were allowed, you didn't need to bother with the complexity and cost of the Half-decker, so that was that. I was pleased to see that one such bus is preserved - I'd love to explore it! A couple of train cars apparently still exist, but are in extremely poor condition.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Glad you liked the video! The LIRR in NY today has double-deckers, but of the more conventional kind. Yes, it would be great to explore that bus for real! Thanks for watching!!
@davidjones332
@davidjones332 5 ай бұрын
Apart from other considerations, these must have been a nightmare for the cleaners trying to sweep them out with so many awkward nooks and crannies. I have come across them before, but every one seems to be hideously ugly in its own unique way.
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 5 ай бұрын
Liked the front "pop~out" widow featured on several... you could fill up the bus in minutes with moths at night
@cedarcam
@cedarcam 5 ай бұрын
Glad you mentioned our oddball train as well, part of one of those is preserved as well. They were not very successful either.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello again! Yes, and it is an interesting train! Thanks for watching!
@juliangriffiths7298
@juliangriffiths7298 5 ай бұрын
Fascinating as always, Jeffrey. Crellin does have the look of a shady chatacter! Mann Egerton a very familiar name to me too; my dad bought his cars from their big branch in Ipswich. At risk of being a pedant, Jeffrey, Norwich is pronounced "norrridge', to rhyme with porridge!
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Glad you found the video fascinating! Ah yes, the silent W strikes again! Thanks for watching!
@johnleonardwinn3167
@johnleonardwinn3167 5 ай бұрын
One owned by Butters Buses, Childs Ercall, Shropshire. Sometimes it would turn up on our school run to Market Drayton Grammar, luxury compared to the usual being packed in to whatever they could spare from the yard that day. Shall we sit up there or down there? Great for sitting together with your mates. I lived at Stoke Heath 1952-55.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Thank you for the additional information!! Thanks for watching!
@ROCKINGMAN
@ROCKINGMAN 5 ай бұрын
Good mini-documentary. Wasn't too sure of the half deck. Knew of one and half such as the RFW. The DD stock EMU train, you mention ran 1949 - 1971, on lines I work on. Colleague at work was working on a few coaches for preservation. These half deck buses look a bit untidy and unsurprising they were not too popular. Some look like horse boxes.
@christopherappleby8525
@christopherappleby8525 5 ай бұрын
Since Lincs Trailers built horse boxes, the similarity is perhaps not surprising!
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Glad you liked the video!! Thanks for watching!
@christopherappleby8525
@christopherappleby8525 5 ай бұрын
I have travelled on the preserved example at the East Anglia Transport Museum. It was certainly an interesting experience, and seemed a good way of getting a bit intimate with someone you don’t know in the four seater bays!
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! That surely must have been interesting! Thanks for watching!
5 ай бұрын
Another fascinating video. I've seen modern buses here in the USA that look a bit like this but never having ridden in one, I don't know the seating arrangements. They are used to shuttle students between college campuses.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! I'm glad you found the video interesting!! Thanks for watching!
@jackfriend4u
@jackfriend4u 5 ай бұрын
these designs are just beautiful. it would be great to see them at least shown in some films set in the period. if any exist today i wonder what you'd have to do to make it road worthy and turn it into some sort of tiny home/RV. the rounder "deco" multi-windowed ones are the best
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 5 ай бұрын
To honor the true "land~yachts" that they are.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Oh yes, too bad they're probably not in film or movie! Thanks for watching!
@glenjones6980
@glenjones6980 5 ай бұрын
Interesting concept, even with the extra expense there is a strong argument that the additional capacity could have been worthwhile on local routes, the 'comfort' afforded to passengers on tours might be stretching the sales patter to a degree though. It's using the space efficiently that's for sure and avoids those 'specials' some local companies had to commission due to certain bridges on their routes. The sleeping pod hotels found in Japan must be a modern static equivalent to some degree. A bit before my time but Lincs Trailers were based just 12 or so miles from where I grew up.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Interesting info in your comment! Yes, I would say the Japanese pod hotels would be somewhat an equivalent in the hotel space. Thanks for watching!!
@tonys1636
@tonys1636 5 ай бұрын
You should research and do a video on the LT RFA operated by LT on behalf of British European Airways between their West London terminal and LHR and on behalf of BOAC between their London Victoria terminal and LHR. The lower deck rear was luggage space. Replaced by the RMA, which towed a trailer for the luggage. When the two airlines became British Airways the Victoria terminal was closed leaving just the West London one.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Sounds like an interesting subject for a possible video, thanks for the info! Thanks for watching!!
@johncoyle777
@johncoyle777 5 ай бұрын
Some fine bus history, what I think should happen NOW is a double deck articulated coach [ bus] that has seats in the lower front section and cubicles upstairs with already made up FULL BEDS. Then in the rear section some railway style Cabins for groups of FOUR PASSENGERS. plus a LOUNGE upstairs with a number of vending machines. A NATIONAL system of SLEEPER BUSES should exist in the US, CANADA, and AUSTRALIA, for example!
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Oh, what you are describing is like the bus 'Cyclops' from the movie "The Big Bus." LOL! Thanks for watching!!
@drdoolittle5724
@drdoolittle5724 5 ай бұрын
I married a Crellin lady 34 years ago, now I have to dig to see if any shady bus designers in her past!
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! LOL, that would be interesting to find out! Thanks for watching!
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 5 ай бұрын
A couple of observations at 1:30... how fitting for them to have ⚪ portals... & I'd like to buy a set of those "Firestone Balloon" tires for my Bus...
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello!! Oh yes, those portholes...I guess it made travelers on the bus feel like they were on a land yacht! Thanks for watching!
@tonymento7460
@tonymento7460 5 ай бұрын
They could be real cool as a RV
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Yes, they would be! Thanks for watching!
@grahamcannell9692
@grahamcannell9692 5 ай бұрын
Another fantastic video. As a member of the east anglia transport museum I was well aware of these bodies, but I had assumed they were all built by Mann Egerton so was surprised to hear of the initial builder. But boy they were probably the ugliest vehicles ever built
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! I'm really glad you liked the video!! It's great your museum has one in their collection! Thanks for watching!
@bobwalsh172
@bobwalsh172 5 ай бұрын
A fascinating and rather clever idea - if the plan is to maximise the proportion of the internal volume occupied by humans! It looks as though the passengers would have to have gone through some fairly tight and intricate manouevres to get in and out of the seats, which likely made the design a no-hoper for an urban bus. Another possible objection would be that the driver would have had no way to view the passenger space, which might've caused some problems with operational regulations. I suppose it created more problems than it solved.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Very good points, agreed! Thanks for watching!!
@misterpwood
@misterpwood 3 ай бұрын
I've only ever seen one of these. A local collector, he had around a dozen buses, but never looked after them. He let his Alsatians run riot and they tore everything to bits and shat everywhere. He doesn't own the place now so presume they all went to scrap.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 3 ай бұрын
Hello! Oh my! That's unfortunate that one of the last remaining half-deck buses were neglected and probably went to the scrapper's torch - very disappointing indeed! Thanks very much for watching!!
@O530CarrisPT_C2
@O530CarrisPT_C2 5 ай бұрын
The Germans had also 1 and half decker buses built upon Mercedes-Benz, Magirus-Deutz or MAN chassis and engines. Vetter (a custom bus manufacturer) produced buses of such kind until the 1990s - including one built upon the Mercedes-Benz O 408 suburban/intercity bus.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Thanks for the info, maybe that would be an interesting bus for a video! Thanks for watching!
@49commander
@49commander 5 ай бұрын
Hmm tête-a-tête seating was tried on some early cars usually with the seat in a longitudinal arrangement. Never was popular then either! It was fairly common on Stage Coach wagons.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Oh yes, the old stage coaches always had that kind of seating!! Thanks for watching!
@charliewatson4248
@charliewatson4248 5 ай бұрын
Crellin was a genius but made no research whether the design was actually needed
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Agreed!! Thanks for watching!!
@1208bug
@1208bug 5 ай бұрын
😊❤👍
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!
@Vector_QF8
@Vector_QF8 5 ай бұрын
Crellin looks a lot like Robert House from Fallout New Vegas 😂 Illuminati Confirmed!
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Oh yes, I think you are right about Crellin! Thanks for watching!
@vickielawless
@vickielawless 5 ай бұрын
2 of Bulleids 4DD rail coaches still exist, just..
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! Oh yes, hopefully it will be restored some day! Thanks for watching!!
@woodennecktie
@woodennecktie 5 ай бұрын
great contence , but the shady role of the narrator is funny . why shady , the man is so negative about the designer and realisation that its kinda shady he wanted to talk about these busses
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
LOL, but I don't think I'm shady, LOL! Thanks for watching!!
@peterkneissl3358
@peterkneissl3358 5 ай бұрын
Like lirr double deckers
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Yes, they were! Thanks for watching!
@stephennelmes4557
@stephennelmes4557 5 ай бұрын
Scunthorpe 😂😂😂 what a dump. It makes Grimethorpe look posh. It must be a thing with these old Norse/Viking settlements. I'm sure they weren't this bad 1100 years ago.
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
LOL, Thanks for watching!
@stevenmacdonald9619
@stevenmacdonald9619 5 ай бұрын
Have you seen the high seated coaches they are running in Pakistan, where they've turned the massive touring locker space into 'private rooms' for the journey? kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaDTkIylqax7fZo So incredibly dangerous!!
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
Hello! I will check it out!! Thanks for watching!
@countteddy
@countteddy 5 ай бұрын
where is no rich..?
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
don't know.
@chriswalford4161
@chriswalford4161 5 ай бұрын
Norwich is pronounced “norridge”
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
ok.
@hughbarton5743
@hughbarton5743 5 ай бұрын
The word touted is pronounced TOW-ted. ( it seems like anymore an increasing number of my comments address 5th grade screwups: spelling, grammar, and pronunciation ). Hire an editor, Or edit each other...
@JeffreyOrnstein
@JeffreyOrnstein 5 ай бұрын
If you don't like my videos, I can always hide you from my channel if you want...
@threespines
@threespines 5 ай бұрын
A silly comment - and one that contains grammatical errors itself tut tut. People in glass houses, etc.... Also, you do know there is more than one way to pronounce TOW ...? Your use of it here to make a ridiculous point is wholly misplaced 😬
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