The Cringe Evolution of Heal Off in Fortnite (Chapter 1 to 5)

[@michaelscalzo6716]

The announcers trying to make heal offs sound entertaining is hilarious

[@jona_hehe3768]

12:09

[@wanniesup]

Jesus loves us all

[@brad8122]

Chat, it might be the time for the brainrot play Skibidi up the height Mewing coming in

[@MonkeyDBoyzBmac]

@@wanniesupfr

[@lucassnp]

@@wanniesupexcept you

[@MarioMastr]

"by not dying, they win the game." HOLY SHIT HOW HAVE I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT

[@epicslapbattlesguy7362]

Really? I thought you won by getting sniped in the head

[@Furrys_are_dumb]

​@@epicslapbattlesguy7362same bro

[@C00LB0B77]

These are some crazy strategies Qrei had been developing many years ago, there’s just no way to stop his genius without a ban

[@Themonkgt]

Me trying to get the most words to finish my 500 word essay:

[@The_Oreo_Oracle]

but the game is about dying!-The Person who thought we were playing nitefort

[@Tristonio1616]

"Queasy he was able to pop a pizza that's going to keep him in the game for even longer"💀💀💀

[@Accountthatexists]

Trying to make sitting and healing sound exciting💀

[@banana9494]

to be fair the casters have to try to make it seem intense, but also RIP

[@GD-BHV]

🤣

[@Xizlyyy]

Pizza gives u 5 HP 🤔

[@Tristonio1616]

@@Xizlyyy 15 or 25 storm ticked for 10

[@Diavire]

Tbh, rebooting resetting storm sickness makes sense, I mean, you die, leave, and come back, you don't have your guns and items, you're a new spawn, so of course you wouldn't have storm sickness. Really weird that's judged an exploit, if it's in the game, it's in the game.

[@bromanr7209]

They love banning people for crap that's ultimately their fault.

[@Rayuzx]

I feel like that's a situation where similar to how the CIA busted Al Capone. Epic wanted to punish them for such a strategy, but what they did was perfectly in line, Epic gave them the book for a smaller crime.

[@pilkyfn]

it wasnt that simple only reason it "reset" sickness is because they died to it it didnt technically reset it because if u healed off in zone for 600 dam again you didnt get it it was completely gone on top of that instant death the counter to healing of against sickness also got negated making it a exploit

[@Diavire]

@@pilkyfn Sounds like programming issues instead of intended behaviour to me.

[@nazor8931]

It’s not resetting from the player it fully removed it from the player that means if you die 1 time from storm sickness and get rebooted you will never get it again in the same game

[@NomercyMohau14]

I'm surprised reishubb forgot how storm sickness originally worked. I thought he would mention it in the video but originally storm sickness was time based rather than damage based. If you spent like 6 minutes in storm then you would get storm sickness. But the major issue was players who were given a max distance zone pull would die to storm sickness whether it be a 1 tick or an 8 tick. So then it was changed to be based on damage taken.

[@Treeeea]

i think that's why he talked about the storm sickness like that

[@jofriprintr5716]

it never was like that. it was 1500 damage till storm sickness.

[@NomercyMohau14]

@@jofriprintr5716 it used to be like that. Also it's not 1500 damage till storm sickness. Stop spreading misinformation

[@nicolemasse2687]

“But by not dying they were able to win the game.” -Reisshub 2024

[@ThoughtNest]

Shocking

[@SinisterBlitzo9]

​@ThoughtNest "im shocked that people are shocked." - Reimagining :the Game:

[@TheKhopesh]

And remember, buildings are the SOLE reason the heal spam is meta. In zero build, none of this works because all it takes to instantly wipe you is someone shooting you because you can't just press a "your guns do nothing in this PVP shooter game" button and build a small mansion around you that can tank multiple mags of ammo from the most powerful guns in the game.

[@adonailr9667]

Don't speak the truth, they will silence you.

[@OGWk1097]

Reasonable argument for zb, I respect it

[@CoolBird420]

Misuse of quotation marks

[@OGWk1097]

Yeah kinda, but his/her arguement still makes sense

[@char_the_champ]

RESPECT FOR NO BUILDS

[@HyugaJeremy]

Remember, when season OG, there were limited Medkits and Shields? That was probably the best way to deal with these types of situations

[@joel6376]

Original release BR only had large shields and they were so rare you carried them in your inventory until late game. If you took damage up until that point you could heal with medkits (more available) and not waste precious blue. As someone who stopped around the time planes were added and came back recently the amount of healing available now seems somewhat absurd.

[@royaljadeee]

Yeah but games ended around 6th zone

[@themelancholia]

The best way to deal it is actually by playing Zero Build instead of building that was meant for a CoD Zombies/Minecraft hybrid called Save the World.

[@tarekcat07]

​@@themelancholia my brother, that "building that was meant for a cod zombies/Minecraft hybrid" is literally the core of the whole damn game

[@mememerchant461]

​@@tarekcat07 wow and literally more than half the playerbase could give a fuck

[@erickonami1]

"Which I think is pretty cringe* beautiful way to end the video. No unnecessary yapping just the one liner to end all one liners

[@quickhit5619]

yes.

[@DonkeyKongGD]

Insta clicked.

[@thespeedcuber22]

same

[@Drillzfn4]

Ok

[@The-Eclipse69]

Me too

[@Fifagrindrtg]

Same

[@DonkeyKongGD]

@@Drillzfn4 lemme pop your profile pic to outlive the storm :)))))

[@yuchiftn6471]

Love how he says “we were trash at that time” where I’m pretty sure that we will say the same thing for now in three years

[@AlbinoGorillas]

Warzone endgames: chaos, controlling the zone, holding angles and finding the best time to switch areas. Fortnite endgames: just sit there and heal

[@n0tred_gt]

Fortnite still better cry about

[@Gian_sas]

to be fair warzone also had this problem at some point

[@Viirax11]

5:20 “only the winning team makes it into grand finals, everybody else… cries on twitter” lmaoooo

[@Weeb_Goblin]

Since Zero Build came out, I have not touched build mode, and this is so foreign to me. ZB matches never get to a closed storm. They barely get to moving storms. At least I dont have to deal with heal offs

[@OGPolaroid]

Only bot lobby's don't get that far

[@__Tazzzo]

Only? Lol ​@@OGPolaroid

[@OGPolaroid]

@@__Tazzzo yes

[@Marais62]

„But Queasy, he was able to pop a pizza, that’s gonna keep him in da game for even longah.” 🗣️🗣️

[@Surfer8652]

Lmao this reminds me of the ending of the Hunger Games. The amount of effort players are putting in to not fight each other is hilarious.

[@elefant_alex]

14:22 „which I think is pretty cringe“

[@soupboi2364]

Fun fact: the auto captions says that for the deaf 👍

[@prodoxer-k6p]

0:13 What is that voice lamo

[@Dilllonm]

That’s the llama from Fortnite

[@JudLudmir]

Fr

[@nenish]

In my opinion, heals should lose effectiveness the longer you’re in the storm (at least for end game). Your medkit, or any heal, should have a timer that starts when you enter the zone in end game, rapidly decreasing its effectiveness as time goes on.

[@T0X1C_Demon]

Epic after reading your comment: OMG HOLY F WE MUST LISTEN TO THIS ONE PERSON! 😱

[@flynnmaxwell4089]

Not a bad idea, even buff the time storm sickness takes to activate from idk 7 mins to 3

[@Ryzxun]

​@@T0X1C_DemonWho hurt you? 💀

[@AMBYSTAR]

it was just one suggestion damn ​@@T0X1C_Demon

[@lacosa1860]

That's not the problem, people will still be using heal offs but now the loser (the one that took more damage in the storm) will just die faster.

[@mondobutter45]

What pisses me off is how Epic games handles people who find exploits, instead of them saying something like, "oh shit thats not supposed to be in the game", its, "your temporarly banned because you found a way to outsmart the system", which doesent make sense in games in which take stratagy to win, an exploit isn't a cheat, but an unintended feature, these people outsmarted the system and epic got all pissy about it

[@masonhhh]

MY SOLUTION: In the final 1 or 2 zones, players heal for 50% of damage dealt to other players, this increases to 100% of damage dealt if both players are in the storm. Incentivizes people to take action and actually fight, or at least try to, as opposed to just full tarping in and praying if they arent the team on height. People can still heal off but theres way more risk, especially if other players know where you are/can find you with visual audio or something. This would at very least lead to more games ending in actual gunfights.

[@yoitshowie1731]

god damn there's nothing to watch... HOLY SHIT REISSHUB UPLOADED AGAIN

[@il_kiri]

god?

[@smoresyoutube]

Bro that’s my exact reaction too😂

[@Diavire]

If there's nothing to watch, realize KZbin put you in a bubble that you might wanna try to get out of. There's literally never nothing to watch.

[@notfunny007]

​@@Diaviretrue

[@omwaJaxkz]

no cap this is one of the best explainers of this game ever

[@13mschen]

The cause of the heal off meta, I just realized, is actually the storm itself. We get to a heal off because the storm keeps getting smaller and smaller and eventually players are more worried about the storm they are about each other. I think the ending matches would be better if whether or not the storm circle got smaller was dependent on how many people are alive. This would mean that at a certain point offensive play would be more rewarded than defensive play. The last storm circle should never get smaller than like four boxes to ensure that each match actually ends with a fight. I can’t believe I’ve never thought of this.

[@isidoreaerys8745]

Fuck THANKYOU. YES. they have been making the storm stronger and stronger. Start of last chapter more games I died to storm than bullets. The storm is too strong. So it makes healing the most important thing. Just use the storm to help the players find one another. Not end the game on a technicality.

[@acorn861]

the problem then, is that games could end in a tie due to server timeout. the storm acts as a timer for the game, so the games dont last forever, and so that you cant get a server stuck in a situation where both players in a 1v1 just never attack each other

[@just_neon7978]

Still better to watch than the old GOATs meta in Overwatch 1

[@faridapoeder7563]

New fear unlocked in tournament: Heal off

[@NukazCola]

Just make it so the storm interrupts healing. Doesnt prevent it, just an intitial interruption if you are healing before it touches you, only applicable to final storms.

[@OnionfishyFN]

Been following Qrei and Vontrex forever, you really summed up their story so well 👍

[@wineaddict6625]

Dont hate the player hate the game. These guys get it. Its a survival game and you have to do anything to survive thats it. Kudos to those chaps who keep on finding ways to do heal offs.

[@oranberry]

no hate the player, they have the choice to have fun an go fight and they decide to be lame and unfun. if they want to sit on their ass and stuff their faces they can hop off fortnite and order ubereats again

[@gren_3352]

​@@oranberry and who are you to decide what they find fun? They play the game any way they want. If you want to be a sweaty tryhard that takes the game too seriously and find it fun then go ahead, nobody will stop you and nobody will stop anyone from heals offs

[@Raw-bug4]

​​@@gren_3352pretty sure this is a fighting game , if you Want to be lazy and press a button every 10 seconds, play something else . Epic is trying to fix heal offs

[@gren_3352]

@@Raw-bug4 this game is not a "fighthing game" its battle royale. Again you cant say that people should play something else just beacuse you dont like their playstyle

[@Raw-bug4]

@@gren_3352 The play style is Not something epic wants, you Know that? They would Keep it if it was ok

[@SolaceCafe]

My dad and I used the slurpy swamps strategy ourselves in regular casual games back when slurpy swamp was added. It was sooo good.

[@benisnotben]

1:48 voice crack tho 😭😭

[@IThePeaceful]

Ikr

[@newtypecyber]

What do you mean?

[@isidoreaerys8745]

I don’t hear it

[@ajkongyeet]

So those nerds took away my precious chug cannon

[@DrewMartinez-x1r]

Im so glad someone made a current vid on this issue. If Epic would fix the scoring system in FNCS then Peterbot and Pollo would bring this game back to life breaking more records, making great entertainment.

[@elizahamilton5599]

0:04 I laughed so hard🤣

[@XVINutkabob]

Fortnite players love coming up with new ways to not play the game

[@SuperNoob-25]

the meaning of battle royale is to survive until everyone dies but I get what you mean

[@mikookii]

last time i payed attention to the competitive scene, was back when kevin’s low gravity was making every float. i remember seeing tons of clips about it. i guess things have evolved very little since then.

[@SamiTheAnxiousBean]

Not completely related but thank you for making a general fortnite coverage video without acting/sounding like your target audience is literal toddlers youre the first (for lack of a better word) of your kind that ive seen have a sub!

[@hellween-]

3:37 the kind of people who bully you for playing ZB.

[@elitecalf1816]

it all started back up in chapter 4 season 2 with long healoffs when they added the most broken healing item, the slurp juice, before then yeah maybe 1 or 2 plays would play zone with chugs or try to time a medit, but after they added the slurps you could legit fight in 10 tick zones, along with CHUGS still being in the game and pizza, and slurpfish. And all of those thing weren't hard to find. I remember when people would go over water and just stack an insane amount of heals with fishing and mark the box later. Man heal off was crazy in chapter 4

[@dadmitri4259]

Ultrakill has a 'hard damage' mechanic that prevents you from face tanking too much, since healing is so accessible in that game. What is sto damage instead of just hurting you, reduced your max health by half the storm damage. That way you can use healing to mitigatie it, but nowhere nearly as long

[@Thedude1357]

This is awesome production quality!

[@MarkStillPlays]

ngl I have no idea what's going on after chapter one so thanks for this

[@trebuche.]

the amount of effort going into these videos is insane

[@senyorm]

Excellent video. There was one more glitch/exploit used by Vontrex. When his teammates died to storm, the medmist would refresh from 5 back to 100.

[@sword0115]

Heal-offs are the reason I stopped caring about competitive Fortnite back in chapter 2, it saddens me to see that they still happen to this day.

[@enigmashik]

I didnt knew about this, im amazed of how the people just want to win instead of.. you know, having fun XD

[@Your_local_shopping_cart]

Never missing it❤

[@VibinMoxy]

everyone cries on twitter got me rolling on the floor🤣😂

[@n9ne.n9ne.n9ne]

Easy way to fix heal offs is instead of a closing zone i hope they do a constant 24/7 moving zone or one that never closes just keeps finding new end game circle spots. It would keep the fights going, more end game fights compared to hiding in closed zone to heal.

[@xqcshortsclips]

Great editing man. Good Job!

[@zhulisclips]

A 14 minute video in how epic games can have the smartest developers in the room and get them to make the most moronic game to ever exsist.

[@The-most-cursed-account]

I love watching reisshub videos with a good dinner . 🥘

[@austinbrown5589]

Assie was loosing it over pizza back in the day 😂😂😂

[@whizlol_]

"he tryna gas it up" LMFAOO

[@red5toneTNT]

Fun fact if you somehow heal enough with storm sickness it literally 1 shots you

[@Logan_the_Kid]

Honestly i like the heal off meta it feels really intense at the end of the game

[@jair4187]

You also forgot the time where a team would kill another team, but instead of finishing the whole team, they would leave one person knocked. This allowed them to go to a spot that had a regenerating slurp flower. This flower allowed the team to pickaxe the guy a couple of times, heal him up with the flower, and do this process all over again. This was crucial because if you do enough damage in the match, and get stuck in storm, you won’t be able to get storm sickness (or something like that) So they ended up doing this strat, healing off in storm without the disadvantage, and were able to win (idk if they did win)

[@snowcoalRC]

Idk how epic hasnt fixed this. Theres so many options and its like they wont try anything. Heres just a few ideas: 1. Make heals less effective in the storm in the final circles. Maybe make them more effective or go faster when your within the circle in the final few storms. This incentivizes players to remain within the circle and fight more as its easier to heal there. 2. Add siphon in the final circles, so you can heal by killing other people, incentivizing fighting. Or add it to the whole game, but make the amount of health you gain scale based on the current storm. So early game you gain more or less nothing from siphon, late game you gain enough to easily survive as long as you kill people. 5. Change storm sickness to just be some equation like: (time in storm) × (base storm damage) × (3rd multiplier). If you stay in the storm longer, the damage slowly increases. If you exist and reenter the storm, it resets the time youve been in the storm. Make the 3rd multiplier get larger in later zones so they start to ramp up the damage faster. This stops players from trying to avoid the storm entirely the whole game. 4. Do all of the above and make the final circles move a bit less and close more slowly. I think one issue is that when its easy to heal off, players will avoid rotating with the final circle because they are out of mats and its just better to heal off while the storm is still moving. So instead make the storm move and close slower, to help prioritize fighting more. This only works when combined with siphon or something to make healing easier by fighting.

[@n0tred_gt]

Bro then you try it lol see how hard it is because if it changes a certain way the players will hate the game

[@snowcoalRC]

@@n0tred_gt theres always people who hate the game lol. I just think heal offs should be avoided as much as possible.

[@isidoreaerys8745]

The storm itself is the problem. There’s no reason the storm should shrink to nothing causing a win on a technicality. Storm should shrink no further than about 4 tiles wide and then grant everyone siphon. Problem solved.

[@K.-yv8tn]

ok but as a spectator I enjoy heal offs, as an extremely average player who enjoys the the spectacle of fncs/ranked gameplay seeing matches end in a way entirely different from any lobbies ive ever participated in or loadouts unlike anything id ever use is marvelous.

[@MaddleDee]

Medkits and big pots should only heal when the animation ends, with the animation duration ending whenever you the item can't heal you any more. They'd be less useful in heal offs (storm damage would prolong the animation duration), you'd heal faster if close to full HP, and you'd be able to cancel the animation to keep the items.

[@biablasta647]

Call this an unpopular opinion but I like games ending in heal offs because of how close they come

[@TheMekaa]

Amazing Reis love you on your videos and the extra channel plus on fntasia. Thx for the shoutout in fntasia ❤

[@brysonplaz]

I love the reminder, saying remember everyone was a bit shi- 🤣🤣

[@Devusiks]

I didn't know Qrei was from poland until now I checked his map and saw polish writing

[@otakureiss]

final circles interrupt heals would probably be complained about heavily but it would force fix the issue

[@Reav052]

2:25 most of their suggestions were…not good…😂😂😂😂😂shit cracked me up

[@ExoticEatsCheese]

6:29 OMG THANK YOU I DIDNT KNOW THAT ILL USE THAT BEXT GAME I PLAY BROOOOO YOUR SO HELPFUL

[@GeoDen06]

Ah back when the endgame was fun to watch 0:29

[@MrDannyloco]

In LoL theres this thing called Grevious Wounds which makes heals 30% less effective, I would apply that effect in the final storms, you can heal off flopers somewhat to rotate but in general you lose more health than gain if you stay making it more convenient to just stay in the circle

[@vulpinitemplar5036]

Personally think the weird hoops people jump through to avoid having to fight at the end of a match and such is very interesting especially because it highlights several design oversights and such as well as different approaches towards fixing it, no less engaging than build spam galore until someone slips up honestly but you do to feel the seconds tick by and I get why that makes it so icky to sit through, something something low attention span overstimulated nonsense or whatever is the ideal goal :b

[@flamingtorch9891]

"By not dying, they win the game" true words of wisdom💀

[@joshmariotti2844]

An idea to solve heal outs. While in the storm, health replenishing items start to degrade. If you stay in the storm for 15 seconds without getting out, medkits and bandages start disintegrating one by one until you have none left. you can keep shield items since it won't protect you from the storm, but allows players some confidence to fight. effected items disintegrate in a single second, starting with bandages and then moving on to bigger sources of health. Depending on how many they have, you will lose all your healing within 40 seconds.

[@MikeyBuckdervish]

The reboot exploit seems more like a mistake on epics end

[@smashkid9196]

That ending is a W Simple and to the point

[@somethinginventive153]

Suggestion: turn the storm into a gladiator ring by stopping the storm from shrinking, and show where other teams are, encouraging people to fight with eachother, and not to give it up to heal offs, and if a Victory isn't had within 3 minutes of this activating, close the storm extremely fast, change the damage from 10 to 20, and make all forms of healing impossible to use.

[@the_epokgaminchair6487]

Always wondered about this, thank u for telling me! Thanks!😂❤

[@NekoStreamsHD]

Man who would’ve guessed people would’ve turned to survivability over styling on your enemy…man if only there was something that game this away so obviously….something like real life money on stake of you winning a game rather than real life money for how many kills you get that game…man who would’ve ever thought

[@Stilloy]

Bro I remember so many heal offs in chapter 1 and 2 pub games bc I was too scared to fight

[@thomaslavake7122]

This might actually be the best as for zero build ive ever seen

[@vapreom]

Huh, an entertaining video. Please upload more id like to see more of these kind of videos

[@JeroFN]

Sometimes 6 medkits is not even enough 😂

[@pt5728]

Me and my friend would do that in playground. Used to be fun af, didn’t really know it was a thing in the actual game until well after playground😂

[@TheodorHagström]

Possible solution: healing items heals less when your in the storm. It will heal less and less as the storm does more damage

[@TheLazyCat000]

I think one way to solve the heal off problem is by making the storm not fully close in the final circle but making it shrink vertical until a certain layer. This will allow ONLY one person to still be in zone and not taking damage, and there will be a lot of fighting around this zone. Since you could stay in that zone for as long as you want to, healing becomes useless. And to not make it unfair because of rng you could show the last zone on the map so that everybody knows where it will be. (Pin?)

[@-Lazy]

6:55 Me and friend won this way once. We just tried it out

[@Vegetable-Jesus]

it takes a trio though

[@gustavhougaardpaludan4808]

Smile on my face every time i se a resihrubs video

[@Logan-i1y]

Wow how only 72 subs, nice vid.

[@Pizzelle568]

I love how healing off was like: Chapter 1:Oh shoot! Someone i gotta pop minies Chapter 2:Oh shoot! I gotta eat floppers Chapter 3:Oh shoot! I gotta eat pizza Chapter 4:Oh shoot! I gotta use my splashes Chapter 5:Oh shoot! I gotta wait for my medallion

[@pilkyfn]

I mean I guess Vontrex and Qrei made the Reality Tree strat and the Storm Sickness get around

[@Uncle_Troy]

The solution is simple: change the moving circles in Competitive play so that the width of the circle largely stays the same until the very last circle, but the storm starts closing in vertically towards the ground instead of horizontally towards the epicenter. Also maybe add two or three more circles in total in order to achieve this effect. Cutting off Height will compel players to battle each other without the high chance of there being a heal-off at the end.

[@MagmaBolt-zj5te]

We could of made flying cars, invented immortality and invented time travel except this is what we’re doing…

[@eliminat20]

All they have to do is increase the lethality of final ring. Make the final ring have a fast storm sickness that basically would incentivize players to actually fight in the final ring instead of survive. I know it could be an anticlimactic end, but these heal offs are already anticlimactic and drawn out.

[@FJUVHJDSR]

If i were in epic games, I'm pretty sure I'd have brought up a diabolical idea to solve heal offs

[@Havocxr]

Life is always good when reisshub posts

[@yoshikai64]

I feel like this could be solved by having the storm deal a type of damage which cannot be healed. My idea is a poison mechanic, similar to the one used in Magic the Gathering. Basically, once a certain amount of time has passed, the storm will deal poison damage. It's separate from your HP so you cannot simply heal off. Alternatively you could reduce how effective healing is when inside the zone. Although this could still lead to strategies being developed

[@thellamapool2328]

I never see this in pubs, meaning pros did this to themselves 😂 when money is on the line you can’t expect people to play in a more entertaining way that has a higher risk.

[@hamzterfv]

Always a good day when reiss posts

[@NonSalty]

KARIYU MENTIONED MY GLORIOUS KING

[@naokiftn3192]

Heal off in french lans in 2017/2018 was crazy... Campfires, med kits, bandages, ...

[@MartynStanleyAuthor]

There's an easy solution to this. You have not one but two randomly moving areas which slowly converge. One is the normal 'Safe from the Storm' circle which starts big and goes smaller, moving around as it shrinks. The other, the new one is a different colour - say blue and it's called something else like 'Null Zone' and it prevents any kind of healing if a players is within. It starts small and as the 'Safe Circle' gets smaller and moves the No Healing 'Null Zone' gets bigger and moves around. At the end game you end up with nobody able to heal and everyone taking storm damage so it would encourage people to fight.