THE CROWN Season 3 Episode 6: "Tywysog Cymru" Reaction & Review | Fan Reaction Fridays

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@SpookyGhostGoku
@SpookyGhostGoku 5 жыл бұрын
_”No one wants to hear it.”_ My heart broke. Lonely kids will never not make me emotional. Overall, an amazing episode. Very strong debut for Charles - the actor did incredible.
@bailey03
@bailey03 5 жыл бұрын
It is even harder to see its his own mother say it.
@unhappymaiden04
@unhappymaiden04 5 жыл бұрын
this broke my heart too... someone telling you those things are just horrible and will leave you scarred. Words hurt so much more than physical abuse.
@fredrika27
@fredrika27 5 жыл бұрын
Many of us grew up in the 60s, 70s and 80s hearing this from our parents. Thus, the reason why millennials are suffering from lack of guidance from their parents: Gen X and Y just want to have our freedom because so much was taken away from us a children and teens!!!!
@katjas9150
@katjas9150 5 жыл бұрын
I so agree. I felt the Queen's words like a viciously strong gut punch and I was left gasping for breath.
@graphiquejack
@graphiquejack 5 жыл бұрын
The actor has Charles’ voice and looks down cold. It’s uncanny... he’s definitely the best casting of this season.
@QuantumWalnut
@QuantumWalnut 4 жыл бұрын
Prince Charles and his Welsh teacher, Tedi Millward, remained lifelong friends to this day. Josh O'Connor (who played Prince Charles) actually spoke to the real Professor Millward for the show.
@lartisteautravail
@lartisteautravail 5 жыл бұрын
Dear parents: Your children can forgive you for saying the kinds of things Elizabeth said to Charles, but they’ll never forget it, even if they’d like to. Think twice before letting words like that leave your mouth.
@elizabethmoore2684
@elizabethmoore2684 4 жыл бұрын
Charles was nearly 21 years old and old enough to take the Queen's harsher rebuke. What he had done was dangerous for a member of the Royal Family.
@Cristobels-Green-Boots
@Cristobels-Green-Boots 3 жыл бұрын
'You never hear the beating of wings when your pigeons come home to roost'
@aimforlifenow
@aimforlifenow 3 жыл бұрын
@@elizabethmoore2684 Are you AWARE that Charles has been treated and talked to like this since he was a kid? (Sure this is a show but there’s a pattern of him being raised like this that to this day he still doesn’t look like ever got over his trauma.)
@mr_earwig6477
@mr_earwig6477 2 жыл бұрын
@@elizabethmoore2684 people seem to think that age makes a difference when it comes to the mental weight a parent has on their child. Certainly, he was 21, a fully-fledged adult - does it make it any easier, to hear your mother telling you that your voice doesn't matter, not just to a country that he'll have to rule, but to her? It doesn't matter if you're 11 or 21, or even 51, your parents are your idols. I know a lot of this show, whilst historical, is based on secrets or rumours, but if the way that the Royal Children were raised is remotely accurate, then there's a serious problem. I have a lot of respect for the Queen, but she should've realised that raising a child properly is just as big a responsibility as the crown itself. Its no wonder at all that he and Diana ended up the way they did. Especially if they are expected to rule when she's gone, like Charles (though it is likely he'll make way for William given that the Queen has aged quite well).
@Calucifer13
@Calucifer13 2 ай бұрын
I have parents exactly like that, so I can relate.
@ConnorEllisMusic
@ConnorEllisMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Another Welshie popping in to see an American watch this.
@Amy-he6wf
@Amy-he6wf 3 жыл бұрын
This is so random i am just watching the crown now s3 e6... when charles goes in to meet his tutor for the first time what is the actors name who asks his tutor to show respect to charles?? He has been in something and it is annoying me!! From Amy in Liverpool
@Prince-Angelito
@Prince-Angelito 5 жыл бұрын
This was my favorite episode of the season too! Josh O'Connor is an amazing actor. I can already tell the Charles/Diana storyline in Season 4 will rip my heart to shreds because of how they've set up his character and arc.
@bobbygordon5377
@bobbygordon5377 5 жыл бұрын
Josh O'Connor will be the one to watch in season 4
@lost4eva081980
@lost4eva081980 5 жыл бұрын
FYI Tywysog Cymru = Prince of Wales
@bryanwhite2020
@bryanwhite2020 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew West yeah I had to google translate it when I watched the episode
@ethanwhitcombe2072
@ethanwhitcombe2072 5 жыл бұрын
Asa welsh person, watching this and your Aberfan reaction made me soo happy to hear you try and pronounce Welsh words :'D
@samito7147
@samito7147 4 жыл бұрын
Are you sure your family don't descend from Whitcombe?
@missparientes
@missparientes 3 жыл бұрын
This episode really made me cry😭
@hansen85
@hansen85 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite moment in this episode is Anne hitting Charles. The juxtaposition of that with the tender moment just before it floored me and instantly made Anne my favorite character of the season.
@gota7738
@gota7738 5 жыл бұрын
I do love the use of Carlo over the end credits, and not just because it's a funny song. The song mocks the idea of Charles being a Welsh prince by imagining him as a neighbourhood welsh lad, which is essentially what Charles desires by the end in this depiction of events. It takes a song of mockery and sort of turns it into a sad fantasy, which is really clever so props to whoever decided that.
@garethmorgan989
@garethmorgan989 3 жыл бұрын
I never noticed ! Shows they did their research makes you wonder why the free wales army or mac were never mentioned though ?
@Geellun
@Geellun 5 жыл бұрын
Tywysog Cymru is Prince of Wales and is pronounced “tuh wuh sog. Cuhm ree”
@sandracheeks9332
@sandracheeks9332 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@synneskjoldhaug778
@synneskjoldhaug778 5 жыл бұрын
I've been looking forward to seeing how "The Crown" would portray Charles's situation. He is so misunderstood I feel. Yes Diana was not treated well in their marriage. But I feel it was the institution that did this to both of them. Charles was forced to find a wife of noble burden. I'm glad Camilla and Charles finally got each other. Their love survived 50 years of strong resistance. They deserve it. William and Harry have a strong relationship with their father.
@kamoko6295
@kamoko6295 2 ай бұрын
The institution forced them to get married, but they did not force him to then cheat on and mistreat his wife. There is no excuse for that, no matter how unhappy you are. He was a grown man and Diana was still essentially a child when they got together. The responsibility for his own actions falls on him.
@LGuiilhermee
@LGuiilhermee 5 жыл бұрын
This episode BLEW my mind! This dude who plays Charles is really really really talented!
@MarinaKaFai
@MarinaKaFai 5 жыл бұрын
Prince Charles in The Crown is a precious cinnamon bun that needs to be protected at all cost!
@cristiandavincicaravaggio1804
@cristiandavincicaravaggio1804 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@elbruces
@elbruces 4 жыл бұрын
He won't be though...
@MarinaKaFai
@MarinaKaFai 4 жыл бұрын
@@elbruces I know :(
@Geellun
@Geellun 4 жыл бұрын
That didn’t age well.
@Dragon09431
@Dragon09431 5 жыл бұрын
my favorite episode, the acting of the guy who plays prince Charles is amazing. love ur reactions btw
@lizzywoods757
@lizzywoods757 5 жыл бұрын
This was a good episode but they saved the best till last. It’s so interesting watching you watch stuff about Wales without understanding the history etc and trying to pronounce some words. I think Charles was ahead of his time with his interest in the environment, organic farming, gardening etc and is quite progressive for a member of his family. I didn’t know he’d amended his speech and if that’s accurate I think that’s good.
@gota7738
@gota7738 5 жыл бұрын
There where amendments I think but it wasn't that radical.
@elizabethmoore2684
@elizabethmoore2684 4 жыл бұрын
["I didn’t know he’d amended his speech and if that’s accurate I think that’s good."] Emotionally, it was great. Politically, it was the wrong thing to do. As a member of the Royal Family and a future sovereign, Charles cannot take a stand or take sides in a political situation. He has tried to do so when he got older and was chastised.
@starlight-ki6fr
@starlight-ki6fr 5 жыл бұрын
Personally, I side with the tutor. Charles was studying at university level so there is an expectation that he should an independent learner. I'm sure he was a given a reading list before he started and should have done a little research before going to class. Imagine going to an English university to learn the language but not know even know anything about the country. Charles not knowing who the Prince of Wales was is the equivalent of taking a course on the Tudors and having no clue who Anne Boleyn was. His tutor was not being cruel but was just telling him to come to class prepared.
@Amy-he6wf
@Amy-he6wf 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely HRH or not you are there to learn if i was his tutor he would get no special treatment over anybody else a student is a student no matter of there creed in any educational place titles should be left at the the door. Being polite, kind, and respectful everyone should have HRH or not that is what you get i agree with you absolutely. It is the same when you see princess Diana with her 2 young sons out enjoying themselves at a theme park and the children had to wait in line like everyone else rightfully so! From Amy in Liverpool x
@ScooterSkillsYolo
@ScooterSkillsYolo 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that he didn't know the Prince of Wales is such a disrespect considering he's the Prince of Wales (Not that it's particularly his fault- moreso the institution of the Royal family)
@elaintanat7589
@elaintanat7589 4 жыл бұрын
the reason the tutor was so upset with Charles is because he was given the title prince of wales, but really he was not deserving of this title, because the last real prince of wales (Llywelyn) was slaughtered by the English, and his head was on for display on the tower of London, so I don't blame the tutor for being slightly cold towards Charles.
@WalesTheTrueBritons
@WalesTheTrueBritons 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong - Last Prince of Wales was Owain Glyndwr 1400 - 1415. He annulled all the English laws over the Kingdom Of WALES (C.1057), and this is why Henry the 8th who was of Welsh descent had to annex Wales under the laws of Wales act. If it was already conquered and under English law, there wouldnt have been a need for annexation.
@Tlevids
@Tlevids 2 жыл бұрын
@@WalesTheTrueBritons Sort of true - Owain Glyndwr was Prince of Wales as recognised by France, Scotland, and Castile if not by England. But the reason Henry VIII needed to pass acts in order to legally assimilate Wales into England doesn't have anything to do with Glyndwr - it's because Edward I, after his conquest of Wales, did not entirely abolish Welsh (Hywel Dda) and Marcher laws under the Statute of Rhuddlan in 1284. Wales thus became a Principality of the English crown but remained its own legal entity - as did the Marcher lordships also with their own legal differences from England - until the 16th century.
@gota7738
@gota7738 5 жыл бұрын
As a welsh speaking welsh person I am kind of unsure of how I feel about this episode. One the one hand it idealizes the Welsh being won over by an English (i don't know for whose reputation did they skip over the bomb attempts), on the other hand it shows the Prince being won over by the Welsh. I guess you could call it IndyCurious.
@guillermoporras3754
@guillermoporras3754 5 жыл бұрын
Josh does such a great job making Prince Charles sympathetic, there is something about the way you say the word b*tch that i find so satisfying haha
@MrHenry84
@MrHenry84 5 жыл бұрын
If you like Josh O'Connor I might suggest watching "God's own country" - it is really good.
@annickroussemrou1064
@annickroussemrou1064 5 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth was savage here...i didnt get why she added "she herself didn't care for his thoughts". Was her father once cruel to her like that ? No i dont think so so why she is ?
@nightnaughty
@nightnaughty 5 жыл бұрын
She is giving him a dose of reality, he is the future king, he has to learn that his personal thoughts and feelings are not useful for the role he would have to play in the future, if you notice, what he said to her at the end is the same questioning that the Queen had for her grand mother Queen Mary in season 1 episode 4.
@annickroussemrou1064
@annickroussemrou1064 5 жыл бұрын
@@nightnaughty the grandmother was not so harsh when she did advice elizabeth. She was firm but supportiv, Elizabeth was more bitch slapping charles, she too made some improvised stunts sometimes like the dance with the african president, so she could have a little sympathy.
@nightnaughty
@nightnaughty 5 жыл бұрын
@@annickroussemrou1064 She has a different personality and 17 years at that point in her life of reigning and knowing what it is actually been in that position, Queen Mary's knowledge came by observing her husband, sons and other monarchys, but only one who had been the sovereing knows exactly how it is. The Queen was harsh yes, but she has been trained for the job, experience it first hand the frustrations it creates and the cost to her personal life and family. Charles in this case it's showing signs of individuality, like the Duke of Windsor before him, and that's one thing as future king that he can't develope or he must understand that there is no point since he won't be able to express any of them in public ever without a risk for the Crown, it has been drilled in the Queen that individuality in a monarch leads to unsavory consequences like the abdication, i don't blame her for been harsh, he is sensitive person and nice words don't always do the job, it's tough love for the better.
@CaptainPikeachu
@CaptainPikeachu 5 жыл бұрын
@@annickroussemrou1064 You also have to recognize this is a dramatization. We have no idea what was actually said. This is just a show in the end. For all we know, the real Queen Elizabeth said different things. We simply don't know. And even in the episode itself, it wasn't cruel what was said, she is trying to stamp down a possible rebellion in her son who will one day be King. Charles is heir to the throne, he cannot afford rebellion and stepping out of line. In her mind, she is seeing possible repeats of her Uncle David who abdicated the throne and caused a big scandal. She is firmly putting her foot down in this moment because it is necessary. Charles pushing boundaries in this story, and unilaterally doing so behind everyone's backs, IS DANGEROUS, he doesn't just represent himself, he represents an institution that is always living in a precarious situation. Elizabeth's father in the story wasn't "cruel" to her because he didn't need to be, she wasn't the sort of person who stepped out of line, she did her duty and what was expected of her. You cannot compare the two in the same way given their personalities and circumstances were different.
@annickroussemrou1064
@annickroussemrou1064 5 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainPikeachu lol when i spoke about elizabeth i was refering to the character not the real elizabeth. I just think elizabeth could have been more gentle, especially after charles called her momy...earning understaning
@JulietteReacts
@JulietteReacts 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed about Josh killing it! So endearing. I love the trope of characters who don't get on having an arc and ending up caring for eachother as well. The "voice" scene at the end really was shattering. Ouch.
@user-PuppyDan
@user-PuppyDan 5 жыл бұрын
At that time the Welsh were fighting to keep their identity so they resented him for being both royalty and British.
@WalesTheTrueBritons
@WalesTheTrueBritons 4 жыл бұрын
"Royalty and British"?! The NATIVE Britons are the Welsh! The term Welsh and Wales are just Old Anglo Saxon names. The Roman name prior to Saxon (English) arrival Was Britons. British another words. The English didn't start to use the term British to desrcibre themselves until the union between Wales and England under the Tudors. And the reason why the Welsh now distance themselves from said term is because of the actions the British Empire took.
@thomasdavid7364
@thomasdavid7364 4 жыл бұрын
@@WalesTheTrueBritons English are native Britons too, Britain comes from Pretani, "Britain" has been used in English since before the time of Aethelstan more than 1100 years ago and the thing about the British Empire is pure, absolute, unadulterated nonsense
@thomasdavid7364
@thomasdavid7364 4 жыл бұрын
@jackie roberts No they don't lmfao
@stingy8029
@stingy8029 4 жыл бұрын
the welsh are british the romans named the english and welsh british
@steffjones7683
@steffjones7683 4 жыл бұрын
Joshua Neesham Do your research. The Anglo-Saxons (English) we’re not around when the Romans invaded. They arrived after the Romans had left.
@WalesTheTrueBritons
@WalesTheTrueBritons 4 жыл бұрын
I know I'm late but....the Welsh are the Native Britons. A detail Americans always seem to not know. Welsh and Wales are just Old Anglo Saxon terms, whereas Britons was a Roman Term for the same people. The English had no right to call themselves British up until the union between Wales and England. Thanks to the Tudors.
@purdudan
@purdudan 5 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for you to watch the episode when Mountbatten and the Queen Mother scheming together.
@NathTMcC
@NathTMcC 4 жыл бұрын
There is not a difference between Welsh or British. We are British, but we are not English, it’s just Americans tend to think British and English are interchangeable. Scottish people are British too, and so are Northern Irish people. I am Welsh, and I am British. I am not English. I personally don’t have an issue with identifying as both, however you do get some Celtic people who strongly self identify as their Celtic origin only and not British at all. Some Celtic people feel that England doesn’t hold their best interest at heart and would like to break up the Union. There are many cultural issues between England and Wales historically though. The English government instilled something in Welsh schools called the Welsh knot. Essentially, if a child was caught speaking Welsh in school they would have to wear the welsh knot around their neck. It would be passed around all day as the next child was caught speaking Welsh, and whomever had it on at the end of the school day would get the head masters cane. They tried to kill our language.
@roamaroundgisg7362
@roamaroundgisg7362 4 жыл бұрын
Right.
@elbruces
@elbruces 4 жыл бұрын
It might be a stretch to call Northern Irish people "British" since it refers to the island, not the kingdom.
@thomasdavid7364
@thomasdavid7364 4 жыл бұрын
The "Welsh Not" is largely a myth, it was exceedingly rare for it to be used and the few instances were only in primary school, not secondary onwards; and it was before the founding of the national schools (and thus nothing to do with Westminster) Once national schools were formed in the 1880s Welsh was a language of tuition - the English didn't try to eradicate it lol
@stingy8029
@stingy8029 4 жыл бұрын
actually King henry was welsh and he banned it he was born in wales and had a welsh father
@janayahanley3398
@janayahanley3398 4 жыл бұрын
This episode made me empathize with Charles so much, and it really saddened me to seen the Queen pass on the message to her son to harden himself and not allow his true self to emerge. We know from seasons 1 and 2 that it was difficult for her at times - denying her sister happiness, mourning in silence after her father’s death, etc - so it was very sad to see that she taught Charles this lesson in such a cold and callous way, rather than from a place of empathy. Should he be cautious about how he expresses his political opinions? Of course! But she could have said this differently.
@ronaldsaavedra9300
@ronaldsaavedra9300 5 жыл бұрын
I came into this episode knowing only Charles was the man who cheated on Diana. Due to that I dismissed the man. That last scene broke my heart. I walked away with a lot more respect for the man and what he (thanks to the show - all of them) have had to go through.
@meggo329
@meggo329 4 жыл бұрын
This show gave me a lot more empathy towards Charles and to be honest the queen as well. I feel so bad for them all even if the queen could have prevented it all by letting him Mary Camilla or her sister Mary Peter. I was a child when everything happened with Diana and that's the memories I have. A cold queen, Charles a cheating husband and Camilla the marriage destroyer. I enjoyed seeing her younger more warmer more human. I know it's a dramatization but it gave me some perspective. I feel bad that royal family doesn't like the 4th season as it does paint him and Camilla an Diana in a rather unflattering light. I get they don't want to be hated again, it would be nice if they new some people have changed their minds because because of the show.
@claybomb84
@claybomb84 5 жыл бұрын
Josh is an amazing actor. I fell in love when I saw God's Own Country. He's going to slay some roles.
@bobbygordon5377
@bobbygordon5377 5 жыл бұрын
❤👍
@franzenjonas
@franzenjonas 5 жыл бұрын
I'm in love with prince Charles, look what you did Netflix!
@philipcochran1972
@philipcochran1972 5 жыл бұрын
Don't love Charles for too long because he becomes a total jerk, cheating on his wife, Diana. Charles is weak
@timdella92
@timdella92 4 жыл бұрын
Season 4 is coming. Prepare to go back in hating him.😂
@franzenjonas
@franzenjonas 4 жыл бұрын
@@timdella92 I know, sad times
@hillaryrussell7685
@hillaryrussell7685 5 жыл бұрын
So another series with “Charles”, “The Queen”, and “Anne” in a small cameo is Les Miserables (2018) and they kill it! It isn’t a musical version but wholly drama series played out like the original Victor Hugo book and Lily Collins is amazing and heartbreaking in the first half. :))))
@dew_reddit
@dew_reddit 2 жыл бұрын
The actor did an amazing work. Hats off really. Every word and frame of the episode is so beautifully carved. My favorite episode for sure.
@Ash.Crow.Goddess
@Ash.Crow.Goddess 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised you got emotional here. You have a soft spot for Charles. And after this, how could anyone not? We really see how his austere up-bringing effected him here. And it gives so much insight on his v relationship with Camilla vs, Diana, too. The aloofness with which he was raised effected his whole life.
@Niiiis1228
@Niiiis1228 Жыл бұрын
Im watching your reactions once a year again, getting ready for the next season ❤️🙏 This was one of my favorite episodes
@MattDW45
@MattDW45 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been really looking forward to your reaction to this episode! I’m so glad you enjoyed it so much :D
@sransom46
@sransom46 5 жыл бұрын
Josh O'Connor has been very busy the last couple of years. Another excellent role was in "The Durrells in Corfu", a 4 season comedy-drama series on PBS, where he played the eldest son in an eccentric English family that moves to Greece. Again, he plays a real person from English history.
@CaptainPikeachu
@CaptainPikeachu 5 жыл бұрын
The issue of Welsh culture and identity is no different than similar issues in numerous other countries dealing with oppression and colonization, such as that of in America with the Native Americans, or even to an extent with African Americans. It's just a different set of circumstances and to a different degree.
@davidd4696
@davidd4696 4 жыл бұрын
black Americans aren't african
@selsig_dwp
@selsig_dwp 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidd4696 who are you to say they aren't? by citizenship they may be American, but where their relatives lived centuries ago was in Africa - seems like a no brainer.
@davidd4696
@davidd4696 4 жыл бұрын
@@selsig_dwp they have any cultural or language ties..
@thomasdavid7364
@thomasdavid7364 4 жыл бұрын
How incredibly offensive, Welsh nationalists are something else - I'm glad BLM gave Plaid Cymru a dressing down
@selsig_dwp
@selsig_dwp 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomasdavid7364 who is this directed at?
@ericfluellen8957
@ericfluellen8957 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful review, I must say obviously I don't know Prince Charles but the actor Josh O'Connor made me feel like I did, it felt as though I was watching a friend in pain.
@kelly.preston1986
@kelly.preston1986 3 жыл бұрын
I am half Welsh and of course knew about Aberfan and Charles' speech. The Welsh is a very proud people with its culture, language and identity. The English treated the Welsh, the Scottish and the Irish very badly in the past. You were punished if you spoke in your native language. Welsh for example was forbidden in schools and when you were caught speaking it in schools you had to wear a sign saying "Welsh not" all day. Sadly neither my dad nor I did not grow up with the Welsh language but I love it.
@High_Lord_Of_Terra
@High_Lord_Of_Terra 4 жыл бұрын
What this show didn't, Er, show, was that there were bombs goings off around Caernarvon on the day of investiture.
@welch_inc6532
@welch_inc6532 4 жыл бұрын
The prime ministers joke about the investiture being like an invasion isn’t wrong. The prince of Wales title was important in Wales before the English invasion. So the investiture was to show England’s might
@High_Lord_Of_Terra
@High_Lord_Of_Terra 4 жыл бұрын
God bless this episode for showing us to a wider audience! Gave me the hwyel!
@marianne6440
@marianne6440 5 жыл бұрын
Charles is so cute
@graphiquejack
@graphiquejack 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly always felt sympathy for Charles. I think he’s deeply misunderstood. Some of that has been of his own making but a lot of it was he just had a lot of terrible things happen to him. He was raised by strict, cold parents who mainly weren’t even around, and he’s a sensitive person. He was forbidden to marry the woman he loved and was forced into a marriage not of his choosing. He tried to make it work at first but Diana and Charles were not well suited on many levels. The crowd idolized her and then when the affairs started becoming public, the public never forgave Charles or Camilla. I think all three were victims and while some more blame can be given to Charles and Camilla, Diana has to foot some of it as well. She was emotionally manipulative and worked the press to her advantage. Saying she felt Charles shouldn’t be king was a low blow. Her death was a tragedy but as much as I blame the media, the public and she herself as a manipulator of the press shoulder some of that as well. Charles was the one royal who behaved with real respect and dignity with Diana’s death. He understood what he needed to do as a father and he instinctively knew what the public expected of him, and he did an excellent job. Charles is rather shy and awkward, and that, on top of the failed marriage that was not of his choosing, is why people dislike him but I always felt some sympathy at least for him.
@callumwynne5370
@callumwynne5370 4 жыл бұрын
I am very suprised no one mentioned about Llywelyn ap Gruffudd properly. To put it simply he was Prince of Gwynedd the dominant rulers of Wales for most of its pre-conquest history (there were other Princes/Kings in Wales of other kingdoms). He in particular was one of few to have been Prince of all Wales effectively bringing the other princes to accept him as overlord. He fell out with King Edward 1st of England and was later hunted down by English soldiers had his head put on a spike and it was left to rot at tower of London for 15 years. As such England conquered independent Wales. Many of his relatives revolted against England and claimed the title of Prince of Wales the last of which was Owain Glyndwr of the rival and former Royal house of Powys (another Welsh Kingdom) in 1400-1415 when the revolt was defeated and he fled into hiding.
@WalesTheTrueBritons
@WalesTheTrueBritons 4 жыл бұрын
And took the De jure Crown with him....which means the title the English use has no actual authority over the Welsh. This is why his role is ceremonial only.
@thomasdavid7364
@thomasdavid7364 4 жыл бұрын
@@WalesTheTrueBritons And the Tudors descend from Owain
@callumwynne5370
@callumwynne5370 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasdavid7364 Tudors were not descended of Owain Glyndwr they were cousins of Owain Glyndwr maternally, they were however descendants of Owain Gwynedd via Llywelyn the Great.
@alexawilsonartvideos
@alexawilsonartvideos 3 жыл бұрын
You're very endearing! I love your reactions, but yes Charles being an outsider is relatable and moving. I never felt for him before. Now I get it. That was the most brutal scene with the Queen, she was projecting everything she experienced onto him it was heartbreaking.
@brandonzomers5294
@brandonzomers5294 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear this wonderful language in this episode
@leedaniels1468
@leedaniels1468 4 жыл бұрын
your Welsh pronunciation is the best thing on KZbin but thanks for trying, I am a proud welshman but even I look at some words and think what the hell.
@romulusthemainecoon3047
@romulusthemainecoon3047 5 жыл бұрын
This episode made me the most emotional too! Charles was just a lonely, sensitive kid.
@missparientes
@missparientes 3 жыл бұрын
This episode really made me cry 😭😭😭
@chwilhogyn
@chwilhogyn 5 жыл бұрын
Naddo!! (Nope!) Cymraeg yw fy'n iaith gynta, dwi'n ddiolchgar y ffordd ma Nghymru wedi cael i gynrycholi yn y bennod yma, mi neuthon ffilmio y ffrwydiadau a ddigwyddodd cyn yr arwysgiad. (Welsh is My first language I'm very please how Wales was represented in this episode, they did film the bombings that happened pre investiture but dropped it) The song in the end credits is 'CARLO' (Welsh for Charles) by Dafydd Iwan a popular Welsh Singer, member of Plaid Cymru & Cymdeithas yr Iaith (Welsh Language Society, non-violent civil right group in regards to the Welsh language and Welsh Independence, which was formed after the drowning of the village of Capel Celyn, mentioned and shown by Teddy Edwards while Charles was looking at photos at the dinner table in his home with his wife) he was arrested several times for campaigning with Cymdeithas yr Iaith (made up/false civil disobedience charges) during the 60s!!
@libbymoody2594
@libbymoody2594 5 жыл бұрын
As an English person who now lives in Aberystwyth (I came here for uni and loved it so much I decided to stay), I was also really happy at how they represented the town and the country itself. Since being here, I've learned so much about the culture, language and, most importantly, the country's identity, and was very happy the episode seemed to understand how much Wales was (and in some ways still is) marginalised. I was also suprised how little set dressing they had to do for town! Even in the Old College all they had to do was take down the noticeboards on the walls!
@chwilhogyn
@chwilhogyn 5 жыл бұрын
@@libbymoody2594 I was in Caernarfon on one of the days of filming, they used a lot of green screen for CGI
@Cristobels-Green-Boots
@Cristobels-Green-Boots 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comments -- I tried to find a Welsh Flag emoji, but my eyes aren't up to it! From Lockdown Brighton 🌈 UK, Take care & be well y'all! 🙏🌹🙏🏽
@chwilhogyn
@chwilhogyn 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cristobels-Green-Boots 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@JOTennisVid
@JOTennisVid 5 жыл бұрын
I can see that castle out of my bedroom window :).
@LouiseAndersen1991
@LouiseAndersen1991 5 жыл бұрын
If you go back, and watch the actual investiture, the last part is actually in English. So I thought that, that was a nice touch from Netflix
@KMRWales
@KMRWales 3 жыл бұрын
I would looove to see you do some reaction videos about Wales!
@lillymsf5946
@lillymsf5946 3 жыл бұрын
Charles appeared so innocent in the beginning
@gdlb2520
@gdlb2520 4 жыл бұрын
I love The way They honored Wales in this episose
@katherinehicks5173
@katherinehicks5173 5 жыл бұрын
I love being welsh 😍
@sxmmieftw
@sxmmieftw 5 жыл бұрын
Josh is too good looking to play Charles hahaha I fancy him too much 😅😂
@bobbygordon5377
@bobbygordon5377 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree🤴👍
@JaricDesann
@JaricDesann 2 жыл бұрын
Basically the tribes on the island got invaded by the tribes from Europe, the tribes from Europe eventually amalgamated and became England, they fought with the Native Celtic Britton’s - the Britton’s lost the fight and got pushed west. They were referred to as Wealas which meant “Foreigners” “Strangers” or “Slave” really depending on the context. The Wealas began referring to themselves as Cymry (Countryman) and again found themselves at England’s mercy when they were invaded, their last native royal Llywelyn ap Gruffydd was killed by Englands King Edward 1 (Edward Longshanks). Wales tried to set up a welsh parliament under Owain Glyndwr and again was invaded by England and killed. Later the culture and language was made illegal forcing Wales to abandon its cultural heritage. Effectively making Wales England’s first colony. Resources were plundered for the industrial revolution (as were all colonies) Schools were segregated from 1900 between what little welsh speaking families were left and English speaking until the late 90s and Welsh language became part of the education curriculum in 2000 - it’s always been a case of us and them…. And because of Wales’ defeat they have been effectively written off the global map, where as Scotland fended off Edward 1 and formed the U.K. with England. Look at the U.K. flag 🇬🇧, that flag represents England, Scotland and Ireland (before the south of Ireland gained independence) Wales, isn’t even featured on the Union flag. It’s been a bumpy ride England and Wales, and while the establishment still treats Wales like shit, their Welsh culture is on the rise again (likely due to the language being made part of their secondary school curriculum in 2000) us and them.
@Atlasss97
@Atlasss97 5 жыл бұрын
the saddest part about it is Charles, a lonely and isolated figure, trapped.
@staceypiper3319
@staceypiper3319 5 жыл бұрын
if you can make viewers for sorry for Prince Charles , you are a hell of an actor
@camillaw6167
@camillaw6167 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely lady. I enjoyed watching you watching The Crown. Best wishes, A Brit who used to live in Wales.
@shanaeastwood9308
@shanaeastwood9308 5 жыл бұрын
Love your reactions! Thank you!
@bitterwork
@bitterwork 4 жыл бұрын
i really enjoy your crown vids!
@mlvendetta2492
@mlvendetta2492 3 жыл бұрын
Llywelyn was our last leader before the English invaded , kidnapped his daughter so we wouldn’t have another king/ queen
@percyob1
@percyob1 4 жыл бұрын
Wales is the country Aberfan is in. Case ya didn't know ;p Awesome reaction BTW xx
@LightxHeaven
@LightxHeaven 5 жыл бұрын
Just like with Bavaria in Germany the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish communities have their own unique cultural characteristics and histories vastly different from but also intricately linked with those of England’s. The United Kingdom is not a uniformly country, it’s a union of different nations operating under one flag and one Sovreign. With this in mind nationalists and separatists is something to be expected.
@thomasdavid7364
@thomasdavid7364 4 жыл бұрын
'Vastly different' is a huge exaggeration lol
@Sd-cl6of
@Sd-cl6of 5 жыл бұрын
Very touching episode.
@pilipalod
@pilipalod 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this reaction video. It is very interesting to get your perspective on it. I am a fluent Welsh speaker so I can help you a bit. The title Tywysog Cymru is indeed Welsh. Tywysog pronounced TuhWUSSog means prince and Cymru pronounced KUMree is the Welsh word for Wales. So it means Prince of Wales in Welsh, you don't need a word for "of" here in Welsh. It is understood by the positions of the words. The tutor and his wife are from two different parts of Wales. He speaks the northern dialect and she the southern. You comment on the word shattered but unfortunately,this is one of the few mistranslations in the subtitles. The words used are actually "ar goll" which mean "lost". The story is essentially true. Prince Charles was sent to Wales to learn some Welsh, but everyone knows he doesn't know much and that it was just a PR exercise. As you'll have noticed Welsh is a very different language from English. It is descended from the speech of the Ancient Britons who lived here before the angles and saxons brought Old English to Britain from Europe after the fall of the Roman Empire.
@Ian-lx1iz
@Ian-lx1iz 4 жыл бұрын
Once, working in Wales with some native-speakers, I asked to be taught some Welsh (big mistake!) "Toch dien pob Saes*", one son of Glyndwr eagerly proffered. (I'm a bit sketchy on the spelling, look you) "¿Que?" "All English are w*nkers" came the gleeful translation. Slightly stung, I mulled the phrase over. I realised that 'Saes' was short for 'Saesneg', which like the Scottish 'Sassenach' means 'English'. I already knew that 'Pob hwyl' means 'all the best', so 'pob' = 'all'. That left 'toch' and 'dien'. One of those words must mean 'w*nker'. Pondering Prince Charles, I fell around laughing. His coat of arms as Prince of Wales is three white feathers (curious enough) encircled by a crown at their stems, and bearing the simple motto: 'Ich Dien' Hahahahahaha: could it possibly BE that the motto of the Prince of Wales is: 'I'm a w*nker'?? Sadly, that possibility is just TOO priceless. For some reason, even more inexplicable than the three white feathers (cowardice?), the motto of the Prince of Wales is in German (why???), and means 'I serve'. ...not as fast as Nick Kyrgios I'm guessing, but I understand that Charles DOES play a mean game o' Tennis. *I've just now looked it up and learnt that the accustomed phrase is spelled: "Twch dyn pob Saes", and is more traditionally translated as "All Englishmen are a*$eholes". 'S there, Mr Welshy-Welshman - ya didn't even now your own language! >*tsk*
@fredrika27
@fredrika27 5 жыл бұрын
Tywysog Cymru means Prince of Wales in Welsh!
@Cristobels-Green-Boots
@Cristobels-Green-Boots 3 жыл бұрын
The jeers were because 'Wales' was still part of England...... they wanted Independence -- thankfully, they got it! Can I add something to your very comprehensive view (you might not believe this!) In my lifetime (many moons ago!), children who were growing up in rural areas of Wales, & only spoke Welsh at home, were forbidden to speak their Mother Tongue outside the home......they had to use English; even teachers -- also Welsh-speaking -- in village schools, had to teach in English! I don't know if this was postwar paranoia of the ENGLISH Government, but with independence came the revival of the old language.....if you were very privileged, your parents sent you to a Welsh school, so you grew up bi-lingual -- like Ellis James, Aneurin Barnard, etc 💔 Thank you for your lovely video! 🙏🌈🙏🏽
@connie6545
@connie6545 5 жыл бұрын
I just LOVED this episode. It's very obvious that Charles was/is someone who loves the arts, and mostly acting [at that time]. Cultural sensitivity and mores are STILL at the top of the list, and mostly importantly as the "Prince of Wales". His tutor gave him a royal "dressing down" that caused me to even wince!! The Queen herself coldly "dressed down" Charles upon his return. I'm sure that he longed for a hug and kiss at bedtime; a connection that all children yearn for and yet, NOT from his Queen! So very sad. :'(
@walrusbehindyou9214
@walrusbehindyou9214 4 жыл бұрын
In case you don't know Wales in one of the four kinda countries that make up the United Kingdom along with England, Scotland and Northern Ireland. (:
@reclaimedandrested
@reclaimedandrested 5 жыл бұрын
His tutor was the Welsh Malcolm X lol! Incidentally, I think of all the places in the UK Wales produces the sexiest men...
@welshtoro3256
@welshtoro3256 4 жыл бұрын
lol - I hope that's true.
@thomasdavid7364
@thomasdavid7364 4 жыл бұрын
You'd love the Celtic Britons then lol, the Welsh have the highest % of their DNA
@saulocassiano2617
@saulocassiano2617 5 жыл бұрын
The best episode ever of this season!
@rahulvinalnarayan9743
@rahulvinalnarayan9743 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe Succession won the Emmy over The Crown season 3..what a snub
@laspilly
@laspilly 4 жыл бұрын
The surname Lloyd is Welsh I think. The right pronunciation would be with a H sound at the beginning, like HLOyd
@tayaxox7724
@tayaxox7724 4 жыл бұрын
Wheres my welsh peeepsxx
@fredrika27
@fredrika27 5 жыл бұрын
PS Did you not notice that Mountbatten was carrying a bullet proof vest? Here is a link on the original speech and the speech from The Crown--they are two different speeches! www.oprahmag.com/entertainment/tv-movies/a29863356/prince-charles-real-welsh-investiture-speech-the-crown/
@Andaer11
@Andaer11 5 жыл бұрын
Aber-rist-with Start with Llewelyn ap-Grif guy and Edward I Tee-sock (leader) or Prince (Kye-mroo) Wales (Prince of Wales)
@cathryncavaney5070
@cathryncavaney5070 5 жыл бұрын
20 is not a teenager...he was 21 when invested as Prince of Wales...
@Luigi_Mario_1997
@Luigi_Mario_1997 2 жыл бұрын
English is a Germanic language and Welsh is a Celtic language, the only common factor that Modern English has with Celtic languages is their French loan words, and words that were blended in by Early Britonic-which were the Celtic aborigines of Britain before the Angles and Saxons landed on the eastern shores.
@jaycee330
@jaycee330 2 жыл бұрын
0:22 Oh, welsh. It's pronounced "tuh-wuh-sog kum-ri", and it means "The Prince of Wales".
@rogerdavies8586
@rogerdavies8586 3 жыл бұрын
Oh God, you can see why Harry and Meghan wanted out! Marianne
@metatronblack
@metatronblack 5 жыл бұрын
If you could create your own show what would it be , if not what show seems to be going on Too long that you thinks it needs to stop?
@RK-ln6kg
@RK-ln6kg 4 жыл бұрын
In all these years that I have hated this man for what he did to his first wife, Today I feel so bad for him. Who can blame him for feeling discouraged and useless. His own mother and father don't even feel proud of him. That's so sad.
@rogerdavies8586
@rogerdavies8586 3 жыл бұрын
'Twysog Cymru' means Prince of Wales in Welsh but not everyone thinks Charles has a right to the title. Wales did not join the UL voluntarily but was conquered by England before the UK even existed. There was an attempt to destroy the culture. Scotland and Ireland had it worse but all oppression is bad, and it's only three years after Aberfan. English people generally don't know about Welsh history and can cause offence without trying. The tutor is a member of Plaid Cymru, the Welsh national party. He doesn't hate Charles personally. Charles doesn't have a clue what people are protesting about.He is well meaning I think but a bit of a clot. Marianne
4 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of resentment because of things England forced on the Welsh, eg, they tried destroying the Welsh language by forcing all kids to speak English in schools, if they spoke any Welsh including in the play ground, they were severely punished. Aberystwyth is the heart and stronghold of the Welsh language, it was why he was sent there to learn Welsh. So it was inevitable Charles would face a lot of anti Royalist sentiment there. His speech however inspired a lot of hope things would change and they have.
@izzyolim2008
@izzyolim2008 4 жыл бұрын
For the record I am going to HAVE to take Welsh as GCSE'S I'm pretty good at it but hate it too
@rozzue
@rozzue 4 жыл бұрын
I did feel sorry for Prince Charles. He wanted so much to be loved and accepted by the Queen and instead she criticized him for going off script. Now it is clear as to why he doesn't say much now. She shut him down by saying no one wants to hear what he has to say. That's so sad. I think she is purposely trying to out live him so he won't become king. I have always felt that way and after seeing this episode, I think she really would prefer William to be king over Prince Charles. The actor really nailed the emotions.
@whitneymohrhauser8753
@whitneymohrhauser8753 3 жыл бұрын
My impression is Gaelic or Welsh is not an language to learn quickly.
@chwilhogyn
@chwilhogyn 5 жыл бұрын
Britishness...is a political synonym for Englishness which extends English culture over the Scots, the Welsh, and the Irish. - Dr. Gwynfor Evans (Welsh politician, lawyer and author. He was President of the Welsh political party Plaid Cymru for thirty six years and was the first Member of Parliament to represent it at Westminster, which he did twice, from 1966 to 1970, and again from 1974 to 1979.) Quote after his death in 2005 Without Gwynfor Evans at the helm Plaid Cymru may not have survived to see electoral success in later years. His influence was felt beyond the confines of party politics. Wales would not be the nation it is today - perhaps would not be counted as a nation at all - if not for Gwynfor Evans. - Dafydd Iwan former President of Plaid Cymru. (the singer of the song at the end credits)
@thomasdavid7364
@thomasdavid7364 4 жыл бұрын
No it isn't, Britishness and Englishness are different
@joshuawells835
@joshuawells835 4 жыл бұрын
4:30-You and most people. Wales is like a child, asking Mother England for attention from her sisters Scotland and Ireland. Compared to the Irish and Scottish, the plight of the Welsh has been largely neglected. And I'm not even Welsh.
@gota7738
@gota7738 4 жыл бұрын
Considering welsh identity dates itself back to before england, I'm not sure how I feel about that child and mother analogy.
@thomasdavid7364
@thomasdavid7364 4 жыл бұрын
@@gota7738 No it doesn't
@meggo329
@meggo329 4 жыл бұрын
Charles had to fight to go to college. He is the first to go.
@eskayh7734
@eskayh7734 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Love that little tidbit.
@Basedbateman97
@Basedbateman97 5 жыл бұрын
Charles was 21 when he was given the title Prince of Wales.. Teenager?
@chwilhogyn
@chwilhogyn 5 жыл бұрын
He was give the title in 1958 at the age of 12 while he was listening to the radio at school, the Queen's Uncle the former King, Duke of Windsor held the title due being the first son of the monarch, If and when Charles becomes king he will have the right to give the title to William, or he might extinguish the title as obsolete
@TheEtruscanhorse
@TheEtruscanhorse 5 жыл бұрын
@Dylan Thomas. Passing the title to William would effectively resurrect the title 'The Princess of Wales' for his wife which would have connotations during Charles's lifetime. The title will probably go into 'suspended animation' if and when Charles accedes and then remain dormant until William is ready to pass it to his son.
@ddports554
@ddports554 5 жыл бұрын
TheEtruscanhorse i don’t think they are planning on doing that. Their recent document suggested that Charles is Preparing William for that role when he becomes king
@elaindafydd4141
@elaindafydd4141 4 жыл бұрын
As a welsh person i was learned to hate the prince of wales because the royal family took wales over , after they killed llywelyn ein lliw olaf and replaced him with a english man
@MrSpy-jo4je
@MrSpy-jo4je 5 жыл бұрын
Did any Welsh people feel bad for Charles’s predicament? Like was no one like: I understand you but you're being unnecessary mean right now.
@orchidtea12
@orchidtea12 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, Prince Charles was 20 years at the time.
@keiththompson4424
@keiththompson4424 5 жыл бұрын
This was a great and devastating episode where life and the crown diverge! Prince Charles has always been a misunderstood member of the royal family.
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