The Crunchy to Alt Right Pipeline Scares Me

[@BryonyClaire]

You kept commenting on my community post you were happy with a video over an hr long so... 👀 If your friends start saying they found some interesting things on Goop...check in on them ok? Nobody needs to be putting that stuff up there or buying candles that smell like that, or worse, go further down this pipeline 😬

[@schwagecko5589]

Is it possible to get a video on the 4b movement? I'd never heard about it before it popped up over in the States after the election and would love some background on it. Please and thank you ❤

[@chickensoupfordinner]

@@BryonyClaire I love the length. I just had to take a break because it a lot and I’m having a lot of feelings about the future with the Orange nightmare.

[@BryonyClaire]

@@schwagecko5589 Khadija Mbowe has recently done a video on the 4b movement, and I've referenced it in the past when I've talked about relationship issues sending people to someone who is much more well versed than I am

[@TwisterTornado]

In Kat Von D's defense, she explains in that video that her occult-lite flirtations had attracted a stalker and she feared for her son. She never had serious interests in that stuff, like most people, just dabbled, for the aesthetic. She was raised on a Christian missionary base and she was a teenage runaway. She doesn't have the best educational foundation. I can just see why it would scare her back to the only other thing she knows.

[@schwagecko5589]

@BryonyClaire ooh thank you. Relatively new to the channel, so haven't seen all your stuff but what I have so far is great. Would also love the yoga deep dive. Had no idea it was toxic

[@venusmcintire3006]

Both my parents were/are crunchy and alt-right. My mom constantly called me overweight at 9 (if anything I was underweight from years of food insecurity at the hands of HER). She claimed to only eat healthy but refused to buy any food that wasn’t mayo and bread for her children. My father refused to get us vaccinated and wouldn’t let anything in the house with more than six ingredients ( that was actually a rule, and sugar couldn’t be a in the top 3). I was consistently sick as a child and got the flu at least four times every winter. I suffered so much as a child and teen bc my parents refused to properly nourish me OR medicate me. I moved out when I was 14 and in with my grandparents and turns out I have health issues that have been affecting me my whole childhood, I just never knew bc I was medically and physically neglected. It frustrates and breaks my heart to hear how mainstream this has gotten bc it almost ruined my life and the suffering I endured almost made me end my life. It sucks to know how many millions are/going to go through the same thing and not have the resources I did to escape

[@uweil918]

I’m so sorry you’ve experienced that!

[@jennifercriswell198]

I'm really glad you escaped a little early, but I know that doesn't lessen the trauma at all. You went through hell. I'm happy you commented because I feel less alone. I went through something similar, without vaccination or medical care until I moved out at 19. I was essentially un-schooled before that word was well-known, so I had nobod. I had Lymes that was never treated and caused rheumatoid arthritis later, but I was sick at home for years in total. I got pneumonia every year during the cold months- which was Minnesota so over half the year. It would clear up by early June only to return by November, December if I was lucky. I'd break ribs coughing fairly often. I still remember the long days spent alone in my room when I was sick. Thank goodness for books. I was rarely checked in on. I'm sure you probably weren't, either. I ended up getting whooping cough, I still remember the weird sound and only realized what it was a few years later. I also got mumps. I'm thinking I caught other things I should have been vaxxed for, but only those two are certain because the symptoms are so iconic. It was mostly because I was also underweight, like you. I was sick with lots of mystery stuff. The only good thing that came from it? Since I finally put some weight on at 23, it's been over a decade since I've been sick with any flu or serious cold. I think I caught everything until my immune system just became iron-clad and said "NO MORE!" Now I can be around sick people and not worry, but always remember this probably won't last forever. I still got all my shots for covid right away, if not for me, then for others. I didn't think I needed them but I also didn't want to risk being a symptomless carrier that could have infected my loved ones, or risk being just plain wrong. I'm an advocate against zero-oversight homeschooling and "un-schooling" now because it's almost always about keeping children away from any healthy oversight so they can neglect or abuse how they please while leaving the child with no future, medical problems and malnutrition, and no ways to escape or even have friends. They don't want anyone to see just how much they *truly* meant it when they say "We don't believe in gentle parenting!" I'm so sorry again that so many of us exist and you went through much the same. Sending you hugs, but only with consent of course 😂 ❤💚💕💚❤️

[@allie54774]

God I'm so sorry

[@Weirdkauz]

I absolutely feel you! Though with very different parent issues... fighting with the knowledge that they ruined me when I was helpless and wondering were I could be now, had all the talent I was born with been paired with an ounce of self respect. At this moment in time I'm at: it wasn't their fault, they did what they felt was necessary and right, it's just sad that it wasn't. That feels okay, at the moment, much less resentful than I have been at other times. How are you doing now?

[@zainabzolita8436]

Sounds similar to the situation I had

[@Cheyscrochetshop]

Kat von D being anti-vax but blasting her largest organ with black ink is hilarious.

[@brittneyhall5378]

Lol I never thought about it that way 😂

[@heyidaroo]

“Vaccines aren’t FDA approved” NEITHER IS TATTOO INK!”

[@CannaToker420]

Kat von dipshit

[@CannaToker420]

Kat Von DumbAz

[@CannaToker420]

Kat von degenerate

[@Jackie-cl2qe]

The clip of vanessa hudgens saying coachella shouldn't be cancelled bc people are gonna die anyway still lives in my head rent free

[@zkkitty2436]

That’s the way ppl decided to go w covid anyway. They’re happy to let the rest of us die as long as their lives aren’t inconvenienced.

[@Theomite]

Holy shit.

[@minirth.maggie]

Was that the "I mean, people are gonna die anyway" clip?

[@swolerabbit]

oh god yeah, cultural reset and like… not in a good way. 😭😂

[@Theomite]

@@swolerabbit Reset to default mode: Feudalism.

[@xmorbid_curiosityx]

Something i noticed is that "crunchy vegans" who fall down this path often become "carnivores" who claim that veganism is the worst thing in world or whatever I cant be the only one who noticed this

[@rachelmatthews3070]

Waiting for my vegan antivax cousin to reach this stage. And yeah, I've really noticed this. With my sociology hat on probably it's related to the discourse of returning to our 'natural' and 'perfect' state (though multiple studies have shown that our ancestors were likely omnivores.) You can really see the link between holistic lifestyle and eugenics just like in the previous century and how this connects antivaxers, alternative medicine, nutritional advocates and the far right.

[@melaniedahl1572]

The algorithm favors businesses, the people who go from veganism to regular eating and are not selling or endorsing a book will get drowned out.

[@alexs.5871]

That's why, imo, its important to make the distinction between vegans (in it for animal rights) and 'plant based dieters' (in it for personal health). Sure, people stop being vegan too, but they usually dont go full carnivore because they still care about 'cute' animals deep down.

[@vleaky3430]

I honestly haven't seen a single vegan right-winger

[@alexs.5871]

@@vleaky3430 oh they exist, believe me. i once met one who boasted that he was too right/extreme to join the proud boys. like... yikes.

[@darkhobo]

Whats really funny is it makes 0 sesne. "I hate big corporations poisoning products, lets vote for the people letting big corporations poison products" Its like they've turned off "cause and effect" in their brains.

[@blushandberries624]

I just read Cultish and it made me realize that my corporate workplace is one small step from being a cult! I am just watching people turn over their personal values to be "in" the right group

[@BryonyClaire]

YUP, it doesn't surprise me, it's more sinister when you add in the fact people's livelihoods depend on them changing themselves to not be "stirrers" or "point out issues" (probably why I always had mgmt side eyeing me as I was part of the people organizing about issues haha)

[@eb_nowhereland]

Cultish was a good read 😊

[@illiatiia]

Oh, knitting cult lady is great! So cool.

[@alphaspearl9728]

i grew up in a cult (i'm an ex jehovas witness), working an office job for a company gave me so much anxiety and made my ptsd worse...It's literally the same thing! Unescapable meetings, your thoughts have to align with the company values, you cannot express yourself to others, you can be fired [excommunicated], a lot of gossip and control of your outer appearance, control of your time, praising the leaders etc..I lasted almost a decade and finally decided to quit last month.

[@kgbkeyboard7697]

lush cosmetics is like 👌 this close to being a cult that worships mark constantine- im so so glad i left that godawful company

[@lisajanebrooklyn]

The “tradwife” community is also somewhat crunchy to alt-right - raising your own food while having right-wing views. See Ballerina Farm.

[@BryonyClaire]

Totally, there's an entire video on the homesteading issue I want to make, this video was getting way too big for me to include it

[@angelcitystudio]

She is insanely wealthy. Born into wealth, married into wealth. She is cosplaying as a trad wife. Other people are cleaning her house and raising her kids.

[@zoeoneeva6397]

@@angelcitystudio ...and working their farm. They have 40 employees that are never seen on camera.

[@Hailey-bz2ym]

@@angelcitystudioI actually think her husband doesn’t let her hire a nanny or anything

[@swolerabbit]

@@BryonyClaireso homesteading trad-wife video upcoming? 👀 as someone who is a stay-at-home wife due to disability, and my “job” is simply doing what i am capable of that day, watching this whole discourse unfold has been CRAAAAAZY girl. i am so in!!

[@venereveritas]

I work in pharma and I am terrified that my job and millions of others' will be gone with this administration. A man... That doesn't believe in vaccines... Being in charge of the branches that govern vaccines... Oh boy... I have been numb since the election results rolled in. Scary, no, terrifying times. Not to mention the rollback on birth control. Ugh. Anyway, appreciate your videos as always for your thorough coverage. You give me so much hope that there are decent people out there (even if you are halfway the world over away).

[@BryonyClaire]

It's so screwed, I really feel for you. The disinformation which has been spread in the past 4 yrs in particular has had a profound affect especially after the first Trump administration casting such distrust in experts and news

[@gavinadams1982]

I'm hoping that despite RFK being a quack, he doesn't restrict these options for people. Historically, he hasn't been opposed to birth control. I guess we'll see how much he changes with all the money they're paying him

[@trashcatlinol]

I have pcos, and struggled to walk before I was put on birth control. I'm terrified to go back to that. On the bright side, I have family history of premature menopause, which will come on quicker without the birth control. Their window for my body being their choice will close fast, as I've already made it five years past when she was diagnosed. But hey, egg prices....

[@kiterafrey]

@@gavinadams1982 We also have to consider the type of power before vs. now. If someone is in an elected position, they'll appease both their investors and their voters. But, once in a position that is given to them rather than one they're voted into, they need only worry about their investors and their self-interests. We will see his true nature, for the better or worse, because he will not have to answer to voters. The same can be said for anyone Trump appoints to a position, they'll need only to appease him, investors, and themselves. How appointees act is a direct reflection of their appointed leader and vice versa.

[@gfdnnfnfgnfgn]

You lost, we will come for you

[@spiritualanarchist8162]

Ironically, self proclaimed 'Catholic' Russel Brand would have been burned as a witch for selling magical amulets a few centuries ago ;)

[@Liquidsback]

I didn't expect to miss the Spanish Inquisition.

[@sabersky1134]

@@Liquidsback *Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!*

[@ruthbarr3159]

😂😂😂😂😂😂​@@sabersky1134

[@NinaGothMambaNegra]

not quite, males took over "magic" spawning magicians and alchemist to be kingmakers (basically gov. advisors), later doctors and so on. The book Caliban and the Witch by Silvia Federici gives great details about this: after the witchhunts, males took over femme lead fields confining women in their houses creating the domestic femme. That's why these woowoo dudes are always trying to support the gov in power.

[@marshalslater1213]

Better than being a slave to time on your wrist😂

[@Vickyeverythingelsewastaken]

So, not to doxx myself but I wrote my thesis on Qanon and touched on how this scene captures non-Christians and especially women of the "spiritual" variety in secular countries outside the US. You are completely right! Thank you for this video, I wish I could cite you retroactively!

[@danielleserra8836]

I want to read your thesis!

[@Z-to-E]

My stomach sank reading this, my dear mother is a non-Christian "spiritual" woman and she is all about Qanon!! I'm so happy people are actually exposing this terrible "thing", thank you for your hard work, I would love to read your thesis!!!!

[@Weirdkauz]

@@Z-to-EAh, that's horrible, poor Dear! I helplessly see my mother sliding into an abusive relationship and nothing I say or do has any positive effect, it's unbelievably frustrating and painful... You ought to be able to read that thesis, I think they have to be published, they have to be where I am. Hope Vicky shares a link or some other directions!

[@roxassora2706]

As a spiritual woman, I'm gatekeeping any Quack-anon bullshittery.

[@ledzepgirl92]

It is also hugely grly popular in Germany and the movement hetr overlaps a lot with our homegrown version of covie denialists, the so-called 'Querdenken' movement.

[@pinbackcat]

yes to a video about the dark side of yoga!! i cant tell you how many times my THERAPIST has replied to my anxiety with "have you tried yoga?"

[@SpanishObsessionLucie]

Have you?

[@Iamliterallythatgirl]

I love yoga it helps, not my WALLET though lmfao

[@charisma-hornum-fries]

My gym offers it, but I usually just use my living room. 😂

[@gingeredspice]

I’ve started responding “yes I have” to those sorts of questions.

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

Have you tried "calesthetics and stretching." Just remove the no-no word. The activity itself is good for your body.

[@LilytheHekateRevenant]

Crunchy used to be leftist. It's so strange to me. A decade ago when I was a leftist organizer (not liberal) we were all natural gmo free but we're not anti vax just healthy crunchy environmentalists . It's so weird to me

[@ItWasSaucerShaped]

it came from a completely different place, though. leftist anti-GMO sentiment, for example, was not (often) about the products themselves but about Monsanto and the ecosystem destruction done by monoculture farming right wing anti-GMO sentiment is about food essentialism and reaching for a mythological primordial pure diet that, if you adhere to it, will turn you into a greek god i think this difference in framing most clearly expresses itself in supplement sales: i can't think of even a single leftist that bought supplements of any kind, no matter how into the crunchy lifestyle they were. if anything, there was a problematic essentialism that saw pills themselves as a thing to be avoided the crunchy right wing, meanwhile, can't get enough supplements. useless snake oil pill sales have exploded, and they fund most right wing media outlets. and that's baked right into the whole quest to find the perfect primordial diet - consuming the supposedly raw and undiluted nutrients that supposedly gave people herculean bodies back when REAL MEN existed and all that crap

[@themischief420]

even "gmo free" is stupid and also impossible

[@NK-qw5vt]

In Germany it's always been about 60% alt right (before this was a word, even the literal Nazis had crunchy tendencies) and 40% leftist. And they mostly still get along because both sides are "anti capitalist" and anti american. It's been known as Querfront for a hundred years or so. Oh and we have the anthroposophy cult owning some of the major organic food labels. And (in)famous vegan chef Attila Hildmann (I won't explain all the shit he does and did, it's too much to fit in this comment).

[@kiterafrey]

I had CoVid twice. I got a horrible lung infection the first time and had to be hospitalized during a hurricane. It has been 2 years since the first time I had CoVid (and I was fully Vaxxed when I caught it, or it would've likely been worse) and I still have breathing issues when being active. I'd always been an active person, I walked most places instead of driving. Now, going up a set of stairs makes me gasp for air. And I still get horrible bloody noses on a regular basis. It made my pre-existing migraines worse. Yet, I still feel lucky as I lost 5 different family members to CoVid, including my mother, so I'm lucky to have my life. I hadn't known I had some immunity issues that were genetic until I got CoVid. I didn't even know I was high-risk. People like me, people who don't know they're high-risk and people like my mom who are high-risk are why we wore masks. The people in my life who refused masks, I cut them out. If they cared more about comfort than my life or my mother's life, they don't deserve to share air with me. I never looked back.

[@PrivateDncr86]

Sorry for your loss-- loved ones and your own health 😢

[@kiterafrey]

@@PrivateDncr86 Thank you

[@Weirdkauz]

So sorry for your pain! I was an avid hiker before covid, the only hobby I allowed myself, being a self employed artist, there is always so much to do... but now I break down dizzy after a half hours amiable stroll. Have to exercise my dog while being on a bike myself, still tires me out ridiculously even to mostly just roll. Aaaaahhh so frustrating, right!?! Think I could have avoided getting it, because I'm a recluse by nature, was vaxxed as soon as and as often as I could, always wore a mask in public... but my mother gave it to me. She's like iron herself, though, luckily, didn't even really get sick, which is why she didn't take it seriously. I'm glad she's still around. It may get better with time, they say. And so many people working on it... let's just believe they will come up with something, and then make it accessible to all of us!

[@MeowingStar314]

I'm medically frail and had to learn how many former friends just didn't care about mine and others safety. Some had COVID multiple times before the vaccine was available, and still would insist against safety measures. All of them are of the "love, light, and positivity is all you need" crowd.

[@Weirdkauz]

@ And none of those "good people" got hit with long covid?

[@Raddiebaddie]

It broke my heart when you said you recorded this before the U.S. election and you hoped he wasn’t the president again 🥺

[@annagalvez1546]

(and then a few days later, learning that elon musk is also appointed in a position)

[@StrangeKindaErin]

We’re screwed.

[@Ooo7ljs]

Me and my circle literally cried when trump got elected again 😭 I wish all America knew that he was never here to save us 😔

[@z0mbi3peach95]

Cried for literally 4 hours. The first time wasn’t bad enough I guess

[@nothingworksworks3511]

some are still in shock. My American friends are in shock

[@JauntyCrepe]

As someone who has several autoimmune disorders, I’ve dealt with varying levels of this radicalization for years. I am also a yoga teacher. When you said people view health as a meritocracy, you were 100% correct. When I was first diagnosed my moms friend was showing me various crunchy things like drinking lemon water, intermittent fasting, etc. I was trying to manage my illness through diet and exercise, which was shown to not be working at all when I had bloodwork done that was the highest inflammatory markers my doctor had ever seen. With modern medicine, one of my illnesses is in remission now. These people are in cocoons of denial only supported by the fact that they don’t see if their crunchy choices are actively hurting them or not.

[@melissastory1993]

That’s one of the most annoying things about chronic illnesses. I’ve been trying to explain my conditions to someone in my family for years and they just can’t accept that there isn’t an easy fix. “Oh, you just need vitamin D” Hmm, strange, I’ve been taking vitamin D for years, how long does it take for it to “cure” EDS, POTS, and MCAS? 😑

[@newwavenancy]

@@melissastory1993You sound like someone who hasn’t tried special magnets yet. Just kidding! Pass on that magical cure when you find it, please ❤ Closest thing I’ve found is LDN.

[@nharber9837]

Ugh it’s the worst. I bought into a bunch of that stuff and tried to manage some of my illnesses through diet. Well, several blackout fainting spells later and spending months so exhausted I could barely stay awake longer than an hour or two at a time, and in constant pain I learned that that wasn’t working, and wasn’t gonna work and that if I kept up my bs my family was going to have to have a funeral. What changed things was listening to my doctor and taking my medication. I can stay awake all day now, and my symptoms are much more manageable. Turns out the doctor did, in fact, know more about my body than I did (funny how going to medical school occasionally has that effect), and her advice saved my life. This is for me, and anyone else who needs to hear it: take your damn medication!

[@Empathy-and-resilience]

You convinced me I need to read cultish next-it’s been on my list of reads. I am a key demographic of this pipeline-grew up religious and homeschooled, living in a rural community, a mother of a young child, white, with a chronic illness affecting my reproductive health system and lots of doctors who don’t listen to me. I’m so thankful that I got out of that pipeline 10 years ago. Because I was raised in extremism I will unfortunately always be susceptible to extremism so it’s important for me to always get my information from varied, reputable sources and consult trusted experts in their fields when I am unsure of how to read the research. We can’t know everything, so approaching these topics with an attitude of “I could be wrong” has really helped me. Also being skeptical of people selling a “solution” to a “problem” I didn’t know existed has also helped me to combat misinformation.

[@chickensoupfordinner]

I don't think people appreciate how becoming a mother unlocks many new fears. Not only are you more acutely aware of all the ways the world is scary and could hurt your child in a way you weren't before because it was easier to tune out, but social media and the news are always reporting on a new threat to children. I understand and sympathize with why moms lose their minds and go down rabbit holes in a quest for control over the safety of their children. Not everyone can avoid therapy and sensibly deal with their anxiety as it comes up. Still, I wish there was more support for accepting and people were more comfortable with uncertainty. It sucks, and the world is scary, but fantasy is not helping anyone in the long run.

[@sinestesianestesia9079]

Not a mom but I felt this

[@anniewlo]

I think your point is the entire point of these issues: there should be more social support, education, community and loving care for families. Without it, parents suffer, which in turn could have the potential to cause their children to. Parents and families more than ever need education, higher ed, childcare, healthcare, insurance, affordable housing and other types of community support systems. Those supports being threatened or actually taken away are what is causing all of these conspiracy problems. We need to rise up and take control over these systems and create a socialist democracy type society that supports and values its communities and families in an educated, respectful, affordable and grounded manner - rather than through profit seeking and misinformation.

[@verablack3137]

Perhaps fear itself is something that probably ought to be regulated. Lots of harm is caused by fearful people sharing their fear with others who fear the same thing and the they validate each other and those fears become real to them regardless of the actual reality. This is why everyone is convinced crime is sky high when the stats just don’t show that, there was a pandemic bump but it is way down and has been going down for decades.that perception of crime causes policies that cause real harm too.

[@floraidh4097]

And more to your point that natural fear is weaponized against parents (mothers in particular) to sell products. You don’t want your child to drown, freeze, get hurt in the car, die from SIDS, fall down the stairs etc and so “Have we got the product for you!” Some of it might actually help, but a lot of it is unnecessary, redundant, expensive, or even more dangerous than nothing at all. It’s a reason I had to stop watching parenting videos because they were trying to play on my fears and everyone in the comments who said that the risk was actually low or the item was unnecessary would be shouted down by other scared parents. The ones who put their faith in the safety products to save their sanity instead of getting help to learn that you can only control so much and have to learn to live with some risk in your child’s life. It’s no surprise that little by little they fall down the rabbit hole.

[@chickensoupfordinner]

@ I find out about a lot of dangers from advertising. It is tragic if you are the .001% of people unlucky enough for that to happen to your kids, but it is drowning out solid advice and making parents less sane and kids less safe.

[@wen6519]

I'm so down for a dark history of yoga video 🙌🏽 I follow other KZbinrs who cover these kind of topics, like Lily Alexander, We're in Hell, Matt Baurn, and Chill Goblin; but I haven't seen them cover the yoga part in depth.

[@veloriahex1593]

Robert Evans' 'Behind the Bastards' podcast has done some great coverage of Bikram and other spiritual wellness movements and Gurus. Really fascinating stuff!

[@SpanishObsessionLucie]

You saying that there were "trying to find vaccines" has been proved false a long time ago. The name of this disease and the vaccines for it have been around 2016. Also, some of the top dogs of Big Pharma did testify last year that masking was basically a made up thing and that they didn't know if it would work. I guess the CNN didn't cover that in the States?

[@Petunia3001]

HBO has a show featuring Guru Jagat from the Kundalini yoga world . When I lived in Los Angeles during the late aughts/early teens, there was a yoga studio behind my culinary school. I went one day and was hooked (likely all the deep breath work). It turned out to be Golden Bridge Yoga and was a huge kundalini yoga studio in LA and NYC. The documentary has been very eye-opening. I left that world in 2014, thank god. A full yoga video from Bryony would be really interesting considering her research and subsequent presentation.

[@Crueltycretin]

​@@veloriahex1593 BtB mentioned, based

[@kiterafrey]

"I'm dark gothic M*GA" - that made me laugh harder than I should've. It was too ridiculous.

[@taylorslade961]

As a representative of the goth community: We DO NOT claim him.

[@kiterafrey]

@@taylorslade961 I have no doubts. Most sub-groups of Goth communities are based around music, mostly music that is raging against the things M*GA groups stand for. That's why I thought it was too ridiculous, like if he showed up he'd get waffle-stomped 🤣 Obviously, I can't speak for all goth community members, but 100% no one I bond over music, fashion, and ideals with would ever F around with him ☠

[@uncle-keg]

With his accent I thought he said dog instead of dark and was gonna die thinking he was about to utter the words, "I'm not just MAGA, I'm dogma."

[@twiggledowntown3564]

What part is that at?

[@kiterafrey]

@twiggledowntown3564 Its been long enough Idk the time stamp, but it is one of the clips I think from Tiktok

[@AclockworkPurple]

Joe “let’s wake up, smoke some elk semen, lift heavy things and sit in ice water” Rogan. I swear I’m living as an extra in a poorly written movie where all the money went to special effects instead of a quality cast.

[@lillierose5304]

Medical misogyny is so real and scary. I prefer to see a female doctor because I find male doctors dismiss me. Any time I have to see a male doctor I get so much anxiety.

[@mistressofstones]

You know what sucks, for me I tried so hard to only see female doctors because I thought they'd keep me safe but apparently they are biased against me. The times I sort of accidentally saw a male they actually listened to me and weren't weird to me. So I'm in a crap position where now the pattern is unavoidable to observe (I'm 45, that's lots of doctors now) and I've realised I have to see male doctors because female doctors hate me or find me difficult to deal with or whatever that leads to malpractice...it's probably because I'm neurodivergent 😢

[@bradiedean7466]

Same. Even when the doctor is very respectful and I'm actively trying not to, I still catch myself falling into "fawn" mode and telling them what I think they want to hear instead what's true just like I do with any guy in an authority position 😅 So now I exclusively go to women doctors

[@lillierose5304]

@bradiedean7466 yes there's like a weird game you have to play. You have to put on an act and be careful how you word things so their ego doesn't get bruised or otherwise you're at risk of medical neglect/negligence.

[@ARareAndDifferentTune_13]

Raw Beauty Kristi is a real disappointment, but looking back…the signs were kind of there all along. And honestly I’m just so so over influencers, being shilled to, overconsumption, putting these people on pedestals to begin with and then being surprised when they end up being really awful people - and Kristi falls into ALL of these categories. Edit to add - 30:00 “health is a meritocracy” this is such a good point! People are blamed wholly for their health issues that are completely out of their control without realizing the systemic inequalities we are forced to operate under.

[@here4catsandfood196]

Listening to crunchy vegans circa 2016-2018 fuled my disordered eating, but i got therapy, got the help i needed, still vegan and MUCH happier, and chilling on the far left. 👏

[@dontnoable]

I'm so glad to hear you survived the influence of the 'health vegans' and are much happier!! But yeah, we need to gatekeep these people out of veganism. We should never have let them drag veganism into diet culture/health. Quite a hard tide to push back but I think it's worth keeping at it! 🌱🐾👣

[@dontnoable]

🎉🎉🎉 so glad to hear this! The 'health vegans' are not part of veganism as far as I'm concerned for exactly reasons like this, plus often not even aware of the philosophy or definition of veganism (or caring about it when it's highlighted to them!)

[@dontnoable]

Veganism is 🙌_NOT_🙌 a diet, folks!

[@dontnoable]

(sorry to comment multiple times, I thought yt had deleted my first one! 😅)

[@juliannapaul6553]

I have celiac disease and follow lots of gluten free influencers and I’ve seen quite a few of them slip into alt right rhetoric. There’s a really popular gluten free bakery in Ontario that’s run by people who’ve completely fallen down this pipeline (they even supported the trucker convoy a couple years ago) and their rhetoric is so scary and so few people know about it bc they just seem like a normal gluten free bakery. Thank you for speaking about this topic!

[@BryonyClaire]

YES! The gluten free space really does have a bunch of this too, it's so strange to me. The convoy support...yikes on trikes!

[@thoughtfulho]

I think I know which bakery you're referring too. If so, I believe there's just a laundry list of audacity those owners have and continue to do. Also the food is just sugared cardboard.

[@MultiDiscoMonkey]

Please tell me it isn't Bunners. I love that place

[@juliannapaul6553]

@@MultiDiscoMonkey it’s not! I love bunners!

[@Rebecca-u8e]

I also have Celiac Disease and also Hashimoto's Disease....it's so disappointing how many online patient communities for these conditions end up having a lot of anti-science/anti-vaxx rhetoric in them. I had to leave some Facebook groups in 2020/2021 because that's when I really noticed the anti vaxx rhetoric ramp up. I join these groups to learn more about how others are dealing with my illnesses, not to see anti-vaxx stuff. Fortunately I've found some better groups, but it's hard.

[@Squella7]

Or as my coworker refers to it... The Woo Woo to Q Pipeline.

[@keenoled]

After I read Educated, I felt like an oily film was covering my soul, I was so mentally grossed out. Still scarred like three years later. Read with caution.

[@couragefish]

Thank you, I was about to add it to my reading list 😬

[@bascoaful]

i gave this book to 3 different friends to read

[@HermitDragon]

It really does go the other way too. I grew up in a very conservative family and watched as my mom slowly fell for more and more mlm "health" companies and conspiracies. I watched my father who made sure all his kids were vaccinated and always took us to the doctor when me or my siblings were sick or injured start peddling anti-vac propaganda and stopped taking me to the doctor's or even help me pay for the doctor when I started getting sick and disabled. They were always conservative, but they weren't always crunchy.

[@ErutaniaRose]

As a white chronically ill person, I’m so glad I never fell into the crunch and far right pipeline.

[@icravedeath.1200]

I almost did because of outside influence from my family as well as my own biases being a big factor. I pulled myself out of that shit hole after I realised it wasn't helping me and I was being groomed and radicalised into dangerous thinking (eg the new age bullshit, some of those fucking positive energy cards my dad has possibly have radium in them, so that's fun).

[@Psychwriteify]

Honestly the thing that saved me was my college having a registered dietitian. I had other stuff going but food hurting me was kind of the biggest issue. I went from trying every possible bad science restriction to the evidence based low fodmap.

[@ELM-ee8bt]

My ex was like this. Anti-vax and alt-right... Honestly he was an idiotic piece of sh*t.

[@stuffystuffsityas6302]

Had a friend like this - and yup. Very arrogant and self centred. Just dumb.

[@venlaaperi]

I dated someone who was going down this pipeline and my god how many things clicked to me in this video. His background was that he used to be a vegetarian, didn't have a driver's licence because of environmental reasons (also to stick out to his dad or smth) etc and when I met him he was this "adorable weirdo" and we shared some beliefs. But during our relationship he got more and more into these things, like stopped using fluoride tooth paste, didn't want to eat soy, started casually talking about some ethnonationalistic bs, refused to take any medicine to anything, got some pine pollen stuff to "boost his testosterone" idk, dabbled in some carnivore ideas, idolized a far-right figure in our country, told me, with tears in his eyes, how "souls want to be born", the list goes on. And the thing is, all he wanted was wellness for himself and world peace, at first he never spouted his ideas in a hateful manner, he truly wanted what was best for humankind. But then, as his mental health got worse, he got deeper into the pipeline and I started to be genuinely worried and tbh scared of the views he was adopting. We were in a long distance relationship and I was dealing with my own hardships at the time, while being 21-22 years old so ultimately the best thing I could do at that point was to get myself out. This happened before covid and thank god for that, I can only guess how he handled that whole thing. I do sometimes wonder if he ever got out of the pipeline, did he get worse or could he have escaped. I do wish for the best for him and I hope he got out and is doing better now.

[@blackpajamas6600]

Yikes. That "souls want to be born" comment is worrisome - I can't help but wonder if there was some degree of undiagnosed mental illness or trauma or SOMETHING else driving his behavior. That sounds like a change he couldn't control and wasn't even cognizant was happening.

[@hkandm4s23]

I'm homeschooling my children. I'm in Oklahoma and a Christian national has taken over our schools. It's so sad, but it's a bit of a mass exodus right now from our public schools because they have gone insane. So far, our superintendent had mandated bibles are required in every classroom, 10 commandments must be posted, replacing teachers with ex military and law enforcement, replacing licensed counselors with Christian chaplains, policies that deny trans kids the right to change their gender or use the correct restroom, mandates banning teaching of accurate history science and biology, refusal to give schools federal funding to prevent school shootings, hiring an out of state Twitter troll to ban library books, harassing teachers, banning state legislators and media from attending public meetings if they have critical positions....i think that's most of it. We are 49th in education and we just elected Trump who is considering appointing the very same Oklahoma superintendent, Ryan Walters, to the federal department of education, then planning to dismantle the department entirely. It's like they saw the dumpster fire i refused to toss my children into and decided to pour some gas on and spread out to the rest of the country. RIP my masters degree cause it looks like I'll be homeschooling my kids forever.

[@ARareAndDifferentTune_13]

This is seriously, seriously horrific. My heart breaks for you. My heart breaks for all of us.

[@hkandm4s23]

@ARareAndDifferentTune_13 yep. What's even more depressing is I'm surrounded by people cheering for Trump, yet they can't stop complaining that their kids for 'some strange reason' are coming home injured from bullying, the school won't provide for their kids special needs or their kid isn't learning anything and is constantly bored. They conclude it's because teachers are woke and need Jesus 🤦‍♀️

[@veloriahex1593]

That's so awful. I can't imagine being a parent in that situation, nor a child having to go through schooling like that.

[@gfdnnfnfgnfgn]

Finally schools are improving

[@hkandm4s23]

@gfdnnfnfgnfgn while I know you are just trolling, you will realize that these policies are against the core tenets of classic conservatism and that you are just worshipping a liar in due time. This is the most anti American thing I can think of - forcing state sponsered religious indoctrination, restricting what you are allowed to know to keep you ignorant, asking for people's papers, making it impossible for small businesses to afford goods so only mega corporations will survive.....I guess we all would rather big daddy government mold our children for us, make all our medical decisions for us, and ensure they become good underpaid workers making cheap t shirts, unable to become doctors or lawyers because it might involve knowing some inconvenient facts about reality. Enjoy the mess yall have made. When we bust our asses to fix it you'll take credit anyway.

[@WANCATAFILMS]

Venting in this comment section which I never do lol….My mother is someone who has been convinced that vaccines cause autism since the early 2000s, which really sucks because she is someone who has worked with many children on the spectrum as a teacher. I had to go with my dad to get vaccines behind her back because she would fight with the schools and doctors that said I required them. Once she got facebook, the misinformation just spiraled from there. She now has gone down the full QAnon route. I tried over and over for years to try to educate her, I was patient, but she never believed anything I said. She then got more and more racist and believed more and more conspiracies as time went on. Especially during 2020. She got a fake vaccine card, and rebuked that covid was real, even though I have severe asthma and breathing problems literally due to her smoking around me as a baby. She is not open to learning or taking in new information because she thinks she knows best on all and ‘does her own research’. I am a queer woman, have had many POC & trans partners, and I told her in 2016, and in 2020, that if she voted for him she was voting against me as well as the people I love. Which hurts, especially since she adopted me. I warned her if she continued to support such a hateful man that I would not want her to be in my life, and she chose him. I went no contact with her in 2023 to try and protect my peace. (And it’s been like a weight off my shoulders bc despite this, she was also pretty manipulative/abusive outside of her views). It makes me sad, because I feel like this system preys on those who are older, and less educated. As she grows older, and when listening to some of the things she says, I do wonder about dementia and what not because I truly can not make sense of it. It’s very sad, and kudos to those people out there that can have those hard conversations with people about this, I unfortunately do not have it in me.

[@listenToTheRats979]

As a Vegan the fact that anti vax and/or right wing Vegans exist baffles me..... I went Vegan as a logical conclusion of my Left Wing politics and scientific literacy. Baffled........

[@dontnoable]

Also vegan here (hi!! 💚🐾🌱) I wonder if right wing vegans (oxymoron, surely!) are just trying to seem caring (though I think many do care about animals too) but are actually using animals as a tool to also try enforce the White Supremacist social hierarchy. 'animals are better than people' ( meaning *those* people). Also the claim that animals are 'innocent' and 'voiceless' has long bothered me and I think I just figured out why. Cause this way White Veganism can say now 'look (farmed animals) ARE voiceless and innocent' so a farmed animal is a 'perfect victim' who deserves help, support or saving. But anyone else, by contrast, is not and needs to take 'personal responsibility' for their suffering. I think they are using the lowest bar possible of the treatment of farmed animals to say 'THIS is suffering', rather than linking farmed animals' suffering to the way we all suffer and struggle in some way under capitalism and help grow a bigger movement. They instead use farmed animals' lowest status to gaslight people lower in the hierarchy who suffer, cos as they're not right at the bottom like farmed animals are, they don't deserve our consideration. Not only that, animals are "innocent", but what are you? Maybe you did something to deserve the punishment that is your suffering. It's all very strange but it seems to make sense to me under that punitive, heirachical mindset, while pretending that caring for animals is so so important to them. Not important enough to not to alienate marginalised / left leaning folks from our movement and get more done for the animals though, eh! Can't help think there's a White Saviourism in there too "voice of the voiceless" always sounded like that to me.

[@PutkisenSetä]

Nothing like a delulu American leftoid making up elaborate fan fiction over why wanting to not torture animals is like, nazi or something. Christ.

[@laymayday]

I’m honestly just exhausted by people. How do they have all that energy to hate? 😕

[@aaronsmith1474]

It doesn't take that much effort. That's why it's so common. Hate is easy. Love is hard. We just live in a lazy, lazy world

[@azimochaa]

​​@@aaronsmith1474 While unfortunately true wouldn't that eat at you after a while..? It's so much negative energy that's being put out because anything that isn't them is bad and needs to be eradicated, sounds familiar?? Nazi's that's literally what the Nazi's believed They wonder why they look so much older than what they are.... Being negative and hateful wears out your mind, body, and soul

[@wynngwynn]

What's sad is the medical and pharmaceutical world ignores and causes issues specifically for women so it's understandable that they look for other options when it lets them down. Between being ignored by doctors to drug trials not even being TESTED on women it's clearly a widespread issue (I've had it happen to me at least 10 times and 1 time I got sepsis because of it), like...I don't think it's that far out there that women turn to wellness etc because your life is in a spiral.

[@stellafagerstedt2256]

I'm so looking forward to this :) was discussing this topic with my boyfriend jsut the other day. I noticed myself being put on the pipeline by Instagram and swiftly left the platform lol

[@richardbecker7421]

The hilarious part of Andrew Tate promoting Eugenics is that he is bald, and not very tall. In the two, very basic ways you check to see if someone has good genes, he fails in both.

[@Jennifer-my5dm]

And he has no chin.

[@Weirdkauz]

It's a funny comment, but being tall and having hair are not a sign of good genes outside the size and hair cluster.

[@ChrysSpecter]

​@@Weirdkauz factually, sure. In practice now and historically that's literally how birthers pick sperm donors at the start of the partner selection process. Because all humans are a little dumb thanks to lizard brain.

[@roxassora2706]

​@@WeirdkauzYes. And what's crazy is the Tate brothers are attractive muscular men, who have infected other men with crummy beliefs. Those men then grab mommy's credit card, only to end up being scolded.

[@BabaJaga]

@@roxassora2706Tate Brothers attractive and muscular? 😂

[@squidgig]

as someone who dabbles in yoga & also knows someone who does hot yoga, YES I WANT THE DARK SIDE VIDEO. (also: i'm only about halfway through this video so far as i'm commenting this but it's been very interesting & informative as usual. keep up the good work

[@fionafiona1146]

There is a lot of associated beliefs, I am worried about outside of Yoga as an activity

[@kiterafrey]

I live in a stand-your-ground state, most women here have self-defense "tools", but also the 2nd amendment isn't just about pew-pews, it is "The Right to Protect One's Self and One's Property." So, men like that should be careful, there are some women who'd Uno Reverse that idea onto them with an equalizer in hand. Edit: It would be his body (unaliving), her choice.

[@gfdnnfnfgnfgn]

Your body, my choice

[@TheHonorableAudio]

Your final thoughts are what I’ve been trying to stress to my partner. We’re American scientists and he seems to think all Trump voters are irredeemable at this point. We just watched a video by JimmyTheGiant on his own departure from the Alt Right and it was quite eye-opening. Thanks for your work!!

[@helixxia9320]

can i ask where did you get your icon from

[@drewlop]

I like how you put the book cover onscreen when you're talking about it; really helped track each narrative, thank you

[@maryarmstrong2231]

I taught yoga for 17 years…until the pandemic. When my studio in Texas reopened a month in, I was shocked at how defiantly anti science the owner was. When I eventually got vaccinated she was upset that I would “shed spike proteins” on our students.

[@brianmckee2267]

The bjj dojo I went to did the same shit. Morons

[@stuffystuffsityas6302]

It’s just baffling how sheepish people become when they’re told to do something for the greater good. Suddenly there’s a bs reason they have the right to endanger others. Just a$$holes.

[@Suzy24]

I looked at the time stamp as soon as you told me not too

[@AK-vi2po]

Lol I did too

[@RobotCloud85]

me too. I started it and went back to working as i listen and then i HAD to look

[@disgruntledmoderate5331]

😂

[@agentzapdos4960]

It's a brief video, don't worry about it. Some More News has an even more brief video about Jordan Peterson.

[@taylorslade961]

​@@agentzapdos4960Behind the Bastards has a 2 parter WITH Cody from the Showdy!

[@davidblank420]

Blacking out a tattoo with an even larger tattoo is just brilliant. 😂

[@technicallyrickylol]

My dad always says "We're well off, Trump's presidency won't affect us". I am a trans POC. Yes, I live in California. But California, at the end of the day, is still in the USA.

[@curvingfyre6810]

Even the well off will get railed by 25% tariffs, that's gonna hit the economy like 2008 bare minimum, even before the other bad policies. Doesn't matter how many dollars you have if the dollar has no more value.

[@technicallyrickylol]

@@curvingfyre6810 EXACTLY.

[@Chrissy123-t2x]

The alt-right in my opinion is formed because of social isolation, when you feel isolated and in a corner you are more likely to blame others. I have noticed that it is mostly chronically online people who fall into extreme positions.

[@Dgnmuse]

For sure it uses fear as well so they are genuinely scared of things that don't exist.

[@JulietteKernDiamond]

yes!! i moved across the country before covid and found myself in full conspirituality mode thank God i pulled myself out

[@CircusoftheMoon]

I’m a scientist and I refuse to go into any detail about what I do because as soon as I say I work in pharma I have to hear about ALL their opinions on pharma and the vaccine. And some ask me medical advice like I’m that kind of doctor.

[@ClaraDarko]

My brother (now 47 years old) was all about the environment and animal rights in the 90s. He run a small community vegetable patch in the 2000s and he got into big arguments with everyone to get them to stop buying from Amazon and such. But around 10 years ago he started talking against LGBTQ+ rights and women's reproductive rights, and spewing JFK Jr's BS about vaccines causing autism. Fun fact: he's autistic. He won't accept it, but our grandfather was autistic, so is our father, so is his sister (me) and so is his nephew (my son). He is horribly ableist, racist, mysoginistic, homophobic and transphobic, and he is a huuuuge Trump fan. He also praises the likes of Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson. My brother is too far gone and I had to cut contact with him over a year ago because he wouldn't even admit that all the ideas he helps promote on the internet hurt me and my son directly (and his elderly parents who need extensive healthcare, and his immigrant co-workers, etc). He's basically in a cult and there's no way to reach him now. It's as depressing as it is enfuriating. But I guess that's basically the whole world now: depressing and enfuriating.

[@TheHonorableAudio]

I’m a computational plant scientist in the US and I am terrified. Thank you for your videos, this one in particular. It’s scary here right now. Just knowing there are other reasonable people in the world gives me hope. ❤

[@michelleallen2294]

This went on for 4 years for me. I missed my nursing home volunteer Christmas visit and gifting because of one person. What I recieved was a hole in my wall, caused by my queen sized bed being flipped over while I was in it. I survived, I packed his stuff and left it in a safe place for collection outside. I was expected to cook, clean, go to class, work as an SW and it was never enough. Once I left, I continued aged care and SW to fund my nursing diploma. Never again will I put up with being expected to be tough, way too tolerant, pliable, quiet, readily available and keep my mouth shut. I now advocate many years later fod ourxmost vulnerable. I'm now with the most gentle, loving old friend and we are a team. It can get better. Alone or with someone who is genuinely caring. This video hit home more than anything I've seen in years. Thank you Bryony ❤

[@olivergregory5093]

19:24 as a scientist, it's very funny to me that this implies we would be somehow immune to confirmation bias. I am constantly trying to remind myself that "this 'feels true' to me because of confirmation bias, I should take it with a grain of salt unless I have time to look into it" 😂 I feel like scientists are constantly at risk of having their ego outgrow their curiosity

[@catherinecroteau-pinney4085]

Thank you for wishing luck to your viewers in the U.S. -- we really need it! I appreciate you.

[@dillyohno]

This reminds me of the time I bought this pretty antique bedframe off a hippie looking girl on facebook marketplace in 2021, she showed up in a cute hippie van with her boyfriend which was decorated with string lights and leaves. She was pregnant too, and her boyfriend carried it all to my front door for me - she even refused me trying to pay her a delivery fee 🥹 but then I checked her facebook page afterwards and it was full of anti vax crunchy stuff.

[@dillyohno]

Oh and she was SUPER in shape, too, i was amazed because she was definitely 7+ months pregnant

[@bradiedean7466]

The idea that "revealing health issues is revealing the effect of karmic punishment on the body" is giving the good ol evangelical "you're such because God is punishing you/there's a demon in your life"

[@LD-tn6ff]

"performing" masculinity is the absolute greatest word/characterization to describe that phenomenon.

[@sephfaraj8480]

Look into Judith Butler's work ("Gender Trouble", "Performative Acts and Gender Constitution", etc) if the launguage of "gender performance" is speaking to you. There is a whole lot that's been written on the performance of gender if you're interested to learn more!

[@stuffystuffsityas6302]

Oh I love learning of how our society understands gender! It’s interesting to me personally how the feminine is seen as action (shaving, using various soaps, applying make up, taking care in hairstyles and do-ups, dressing in various jewellery and clothing) and the masculine as in-action (hairy, simple or not bothered for hygiene, limited style). That’s only appearance - it then goes on with behaviour as trying to “prove” your gender, like currently with all this Andrew Tate none-sense. Car + money + muscle + beard + being loud + harassing (getting) women (b**hes) = a “real” man.

[@TeamCryptidRobotics]

36:30 Vertasium did a whole video on how smart people are better at defending their position, not coming to the right position. I immediately thought about it during that segment.

[@curvingfyre6810]

Coming to correct positions isn't a smarts thing, it's a hard skill that simply doesn't get taught unless you're in philosophy or social sciences or the like. Checking your ideas is unintuitive, hard, confusing, and stressful. It comes naturally to absolutely no-one. You *must* actively learn, actively practice, and actively refuse to let it lapse.

[@elevin8858]

I’m an American with MAGA relatives. Who is still trying to stay in communication because I’m probably the safest one to do so. I’m also doing my best to build community for progressive women in my very red corner of a red state. It helps that I saw the election as only a pause point in my work. I’m disabled- and highly enough disabled that I qualified for social security on my first application. I’m waiting for my relatives to realize that both our granny and myself will lose benefits we paid into for many decades. And they will lose healthcare access. Like diabetes and mood disorders run in our family?

[@jenessarenee]

I’m in the US and I’m scared of what is going to happen the next 4 years. The irreparable damage is going to be real.

[@MiraBoo]

Being uniformed and prone to magical thinking makes people more vulnerable to manipulation. This vulnerability increases as people become more desperate and less trusting due to bad experiences. Be weary of magical thinking, anti-intellectualism, and pseudo science.

[@BlueTuesday-d1g]

Wellness, motherhood, medical mistreatment are such important topics to discuss out in the open and form communities around; it's so messed up that these are used to pave the way for such dangerous areas as anti-vaccine thinking.

[@calm_icy]

I’ve constantly have to be on such high alert of all this because I grew up with emotional abuse and had undiagnosed fibroids for a decade that nearly killed me so I don’t trust people or things easily. I’m university educated. I studied STEM. But boy oh boy do I find myself so easily falling down this pipeline. It’s actually so exhausting. I just want to feel okay both mentally and physically. I want to relax and trust people but it’s just such a shame people want to exploit vulnerable people for their own warped gain. Thank you for this video Bryony ❤❤❤❤

[@Blgenx]

🎂🥳Happy Birthday 🎁 🎊Queen 👑 Joe Rogan has done a lot of damage to the lost young men out there with his grifting and irresponsible behavior. Platforming extremely dangerous theories and PEOPLE!

[@BryonyClaire]

Thank you! He truly has had SUCH a huge impact, because people trust him and see him as impartial however he continually platforms these people to his many millions of listeners, exposing them to continued misinformation. The book conspirituality dives into this much more, and I really do recommend it

[@nclibrarian8766]

The whole online manosphere is tragic for young and not so young men who go from maybe wanting to be fit into brainwashed aholes that seem to despise women and want to go back to the Middle Ages. No wonder the 4B movement is gaining popularity.

[@margaretkrpan1105]

He's an ignorant meathead

[@Horticarter41]

Me: what the hell does activating your almonds mean?" My kid sitting next to me: "you know, you gotta grip em and fondle em a bit" Me: spits coffee

[@AidanXX0]

💀

[@Horticarter41]

@@AidanXX0 seriously, the shit my kid just comes up with...lol

[@monica_.]

One hour of thoughtful and passionate commentary from Bryony?? I'm in! 🎉 Also, as a vegan yogi, this hits unfortunately too close to home. 🙄 Edit: yes to the dark history of yoga video. Also happy belated birthday!!🎉🍭

[@tatiana4050]

Pronatalism? More often than not just positive eugenics.

[@gfdnnfnfgnfgn]

Whats wrong with eugenics factually

[@themischief420]

​@@gfdnnfnfgnfgnJesus Christ dude

[@marilynwest4647]

17:50 I'm young and I had no personal reason to get a vaccine for a disease I wasn't likely to get. I routinely vaccinate because it's not about my personal risk, it's about herd immunity. For what it's worth I haven't caught it once.

[@fionafiona1146]

25:30 I personally am not the greatest fan of the extant GMO options but that's not a science issue but a capitalism issue. The type of things plants are optimised for are rarely as amazing as golden rice and even that has biodiversity issues. I'd love more independent research finding and more public use of public research, rather than selling out university achievement for profit (Oxford/ astrasenica vaccine among others).

[@ambrosemoonchild1985]

Man, that Nick Fuentes video hits different a week in the future now that he's hiding in his mom's basement because his address got doxxed.

[@earthaforester3141]

I went down the pipeline about 15 years ago. What started me on the path out was studying actual science in college (also learning more about human behavior and history, and devloping a love of learning in general). Education is so important, my dudes. It gives you a wealth of actual context and resources to compare new information against, and exercizes your brain, allowing you to develop better critical thinking skills. Going to college is probably the best thing I've ever done, and I'm not even "using" my degree. One of the things I'm worried most about this new administration (apart from all the human rights violations) is the dismantling of the already strained education system. Knowledge is power.

[@dulcierobertson7828]

I'm with you that hysterical fear of all chemicals isn't good, but I really think there is a more nuanced discussion to be had about GMOs, pesticide use and organic farming. I don't eat all organic but I still believe that if we want to save the planet we NEED to reduce pesticide use, which is harming entire ecosystems. And the pesticide-resistent GMO crops we are planting so that farmers can use even more pesticides is part of the problem. Yes, eating veggies is always good, organic or otherwise, but the systems producing those veggies are VERY flawed and it's good to criticise them. I guess what I'm saying is that I think questioning authority is important, even if the individualistic solutions people turn to, like restrictive diets and insular cults are misguided.

[@themischief420]

what do you think gmos are dude modern fruit and vegetables only exist the way they do BECAUSE of genetic modification. like genetically modifying rice to contain vitamin a and to be resistant to flooding means it grows better AND people aren't deficient in vitamin a. bananas used to be mostly seed, and not as good to eat. and so on.

[@dulcierobertson7828]

@themischief420 hey! I'm not strictly anti-GMO - like I said, I don't eat all organic or anything - I just think it's a thorny issue! Yes , there can be excellent reasons for modifying crops, like those you mentioned, but there can also be not so great ones, like enabling heavier use of destructive pesticides. Respectfully, I didn't think this was a controversial take at all?? 😅 It's obviously something you feel really strongly about though, I'd be interested to hear more of your perspective!

[@galactic_socialist]

I've never met a vaccine I didn't like Please everyone get your COVID,flu and any other vaccines you should have. It might save your life or keep someone else safe

[@allisarcadia]

"How is the election going?" It was not going well. And it did not go well. And we're scared.

[@acompassrose1366]

US citizen here- yeah, we're so not doing OK

[@StrangeKindaErin]

We’re screwed.

[@AuntieMamies]

I know you didn't want us to comment before the end of the video. I just wanted to say, as an American, I'm so deeply sorry. A lot of us tried. So hard. I can't even say it enough. I know this hurts everyone🍭🎂 happy birthday!

[@Weirdkauz]

I know many did, it was so frogging close!

[@susanjeffries5108]

Still in mourning over here in Oregon. And I'm a white, straight female. Can't imagine how people who don't fit the alt right's ideals of humanity are going to get through these next 4 years without major scarring and trauma. It's so sad and scary.

[@yournamehere100]

interrupting people after 11 seconds, huh i once went to a dermatologist and i didnt even get to speak, she just started listing off everything wrong with me and then I had to interrupt HER i was just there to get an opinion on a mole 😭💀

[@nostop8894]

My brother keeps slipping further down the Rogan pipeline, (during covid he was completely convinced ivermectin was a legitimate treatment despite our mother being a VETERINARIAN) and I keep telling him how weird this Joe guy is and I just don't know what to do because I love him a lot and I don't like fighting with him :/

[@allison5487]

I know some medications have off label uses, but the ivermectin baffles me. I have livestock and it's recommended to not consume products from the livestock after treatment. If I shouldn't drink milk or eat eggs from an animal recently treated with ivermectin, it seems counterintuitive that it is safe for me to take ivermectin directly. Your veterinarian mom would be such a better wealth of knowledge than Joe Rogan. I feel for you having a sibling who is listening to influencers over science.

[@IamjustBruh]

What do you genuinely have against Rogan. All he is doing is having conversations with people from a walks from life and happens to not think like you. Does he have such an effect on your life to the point that YOU are ruining your relationship with your brother?

[@nostop8894]

@ Who said I was ruining my relationship with my brother??? My problem with Rogan is that he platforms people to blither nonsense while providing no pushback and discouraging his fans from seeking medical treatment in favor of eating raw meat and Alpha Brain

[@coolchameleon21]

@@IamjustBruhhe platforms not sees and cheers them on. stop trying to manipulate the narrative because you don’t want to feel guilty. you don’t get to be a bigot and a coward

[@themischief420]

​@@IamjustBruhyou're a twat

[@Cryinginthecloudssss]

The thing about people on the right trying to listen too people on the left is that it often doesn’t work 🤷‍♀️ most conservative people don’t listen even when you try to education them in a nice tone & also I’m tired of being nice too people who literally think my bodies rights are not mine. I’m tired of this zip tie effect we are being pulled into the right more and more and we are not gunna be able to pull it the other way. I’m all for people who were on the right changing their minds & opinions & educating themselves, But it needs to be done a specific way. I watch this therapist talk n KZbin and he specifically worried a video title on a way it would get incels too click on his video, when it was an informational video on women. Thats what we gotta do

[@coolchameleon21]

exactly. it’s like talking to a brick wall, they will always see themselves as the victim and they are incapable of considering anyone else’s perspective. they will treat you like you’re subhuman. i’m sick of showing compassion to people who think i deserve less rights than a dog

[@jamesmaybrick2001]

As a Brit, where a Crunchy is a delicious bar of chocolate (well a bar of honeycomb covered in chocolate) the title of this video both intrigues and confuses me.

[@ethylmacarthur]

commenting before the end because in AA/NA a common phrase used is "take the meat and spit out the bones" and yep fits right in. these types unfortunately are all over the recovery community

[@ARareAndDifferentTune_13]

Oh TOTALLY, I know exactly what you mean. I had to leave all meetings because of this and a lot of other issues I’ve come across with meetings. I am very glad that it helps people, and I have been able to find sobriety on my own. I dislike that it is presented as the ONLY way that works, it is just not true.

[@marylamphere2112]

The bit about skeptics wanting vaccines to be 100% effective and 100% safe had me laughing. In a few weeks i am having metal hardware removed from my leg from a previous accident and surgery. Easy peasy right? But then why did i get the "this surgery may be fantastic and make the pain go away or you may die or you may be left at any point in-between" because even a small incision and a screwdriver taking out a bolt isn't able to be labled 100% effective and 100% safe. My RWNJ mother can understand yhis for my surgery but can not understand this same logic for vaccines. We have so much ground to make up.

[@GoingSwimmingly]

not done with the video yet, but would appreciate a video on the dark side of yoga still!

[@eb_nowhereland]

Same here, I had to unfollow multiple yoga accounts during Covid because they went full conspiracy.

[@Luckygingerslots]

The most ironic thing ever is that their kids could literally die from getting like measles because they didn’t vaccinate them

[@pingpong632]

Happy birthday Bryony! Thank you so much for putting this video out so soon after the election, you gave me some strength to keep fighting against the right siphoning off vulnerable people in my community.

[@brittanyk6651]

Raw beauty Kristi is insane

[@AnnK.-vu2yp]

Wait no I have always loved her, what happened????

[@brittanyk6651]

@ she talks about it in this video but basically Kristi is part of a bigoted home schooling group (and trying to hide it and failing) and she’s been racially insensitive in the past

[@forgetsin]

As hopeful as I want to be about people being brought back over to the side of emapthy, I don't have the spoons to deal with the people who voted for tRump and spit in the face of me and my wife . I can't deal with people who vote for such heinous people, friend family or other. I have tried for the past 8+yrs to tell them why empathy towards their fellow man is important. At this point I am wasting my breath.

[@driley5004]

Just a thought. Heinous? How? Sounds to me as people like u who are supposed to be so "empathetic" , "accepting" are the same people saying if someone doesn't agree w you.politically that they are garbage and not worth ur time Kinda hypocritical, isn't it?

[@OlWyatt]

@@driley5004 just a thought, but no, it’s not the same. And here’s why: The republicans/conservatives (mostly of the MAGA variety) hate and want to control people for who they are. I.E. immigrants, trans folks, anyone in the lgbtq+ community, poc, etc. Which is different than calling someone out for BEING hateful. If you haven’t yet, I recommend you look into the paradox of tolerance. If I’m at dinner and my uncle starts to deny me food until I change my hair color, and I speak out against that, am I the aggressor? If someone thinks that illegal immigrants should be round up like cattle via drag nets, and I speak out about it, and I in the wrong? If gay people want to have the same rights as straight people, but someone thinks it’ll somehow ruin the idea of marriage because of their personal interpretation of their religion, and in fact want said gay folks to not exist, and I speak up about it, am I the oppressor? Like, who started this? Did the left try and make it illegal to be straight? Of course not. That’s stupid, the majority of people are straight. Did the left try and make it illegal to be Christian? Of course not, that’s stupid, the majority of Americans are Christian. Trans rights and Covid was really the straw that broke the camels back in my opinion. Asking people to use someone’s preferred pronouns and asking people to wear a mask so less people would die was just too much for some folks. And now we’re dealing with the fallout. We are ALL struggling right now, and during Covid. But the issue will not be fixed by removing immigrants (they actually help the economy) or pushing anyone from the lgbtq+ back into the closet. It will not be fixed by people like nick fuentes chanting “your body, MY choice”, it will not be fixed by banning books, it will not be fixed removing access to contraceptives, or shaming people without children. It will not be fixed by hating the “other” or finding a powerless scapegoat. History has shown us that scapegoating ends n disaster.

[@redlikeroses1062]

⁠@@driley5004I think they meant Trump, who is a convicted felon and rapist. Also they aren’t saying they are actively going to attack Trump supporters, but instead wish to distance themselves from people who align themselves that way. No one should be required to talk and be friends with someone they don’t like, I’m sure you agree with that at least.

[@laurenm3148]

"I have tried for the past 8+yrs to tell them why empathy towards their fellow man is important. At this point I am wasting my breath." AMEN.

[@coolchameleon21]

fr. i’m so sick of the left always being expected to be the adults and be civil. i’m done with showing compassion to people who don’t care whether i live or die

[@alisongreen7576]

Oh, I forgot- there is a specific subtype of narcissists called “somatic narcissists” - where their narcissistic “supply” comes from bodily beauty and physical perfection.

[@gh0stcup]

I'm 3 minutes in and ohmygod I've just realised my granddad is alt-lite! I think I managed to talk him round on the JK Rowling issue the other day, bc after hearing what she thinks and does and how it would affect his grandson (my brother) he didn't seem to like that much...

[@marylamphere2112]

Yeah, I've been very hesitant to name a bunch of family alt-right because they aren't THAT BAD, right? I love Alt-light because it is perfect for them.

[@LanternMoth]

As someone who feels like their own father is slowly taking this route as an enormous Rogan fan, it’s illuminating to see that this is a shared experience

[@nicodinisi]

23:53 isn’t it also true that COVID-19 is not the first coronavirus so technically there was probably already lots of work being done on vaccines for previous coronaviruses like I believe the Spanish flu was one of them

[@Hmmveryinteresting-q8w]

On Brand is a podcast specifically about debunking Russel Brand. Worth a listen. Entertaining hosts.

[@darkmuseluisa]

Oh GIRL the exasperated nostalgia you unlocked by mentioning Freelee the Banana Girl and her harmful "fitness/dietary" advice that was borderline a cult. I was a teenager struggling with an ED at the time she was most popular, and her content was less than helpful to my recovery, to put it lightly! Amazing video as always. I've pondered this political/lifestyle pipeline for a while too!

[@AidanXX0]

Guy with an ED here and same. As soon as she was mentioned it unlocked so many memories and I said, "oh god, not HER!" Those were wild and dark times.

[@Starsongzz]

I was looking for yoga videos and accidentally stumbled across the “staying in your feminine energy” crowd, girl I SHREIKED 11:54 I have to pay $200 each time I talk to my doctor 😞

[@cjr790]

Yes!! It goes from clean girl/productivity to divine femininity to straight-up tradfem rhetoric 😖😖

[@roxassora2706]

​@@cjr790And feminine energy isn't what TikTok makes it out to be. Awful misinformation is spread about spirituality.

[@Laura-ti2tm]

Happy birthday 😻 I'm from Ireland, but really worried about the right wing ideology taking over of a lot of the world. I'm going to keep trying to live by my values, and taking action on what I can. Thanks for your hard work and authentic way of sharing information ❤

[@rebaj5736]

I loved this video and found your analysis spot on. I'm also excited to read Conspirituality, I read Cultish a while ago and loved it so I enjoyed the references. I also would like a dark side of Yoga video. I have practiced yoga for over a decade and I think when approached as a practice, a way of being in one's body and the world, yoga can be beneficial, but when it becomes performative, where we all want to master an inverted lord of the dance pose on a cliff for a picture, we're losing the practice. I know there are other issues, like bad teachers, going into the wellness peddling arena, and appropriation, but I just know a little, I'm curious to know more now. 🍭

[@kiwedinikwe1087]

Just finding your channel and had to subscribe! Can I just say this is so well researched and amazing? SUCH a breath of fresh air from the cesspool of anti-intellectualism of Tik Tok comment sections I've been in. Love the book reccs too. After the US election, I've just been trying to understand the alt-right and figure out why it all ended up this way, while also discovering ways we can prevent this from escalating further in Canada as well. With the Trucker Convoy and now the rise of anti-immigration sentiment (fuelled by a housing crisis and a cost of living crisis) it's clear that these ideas have already taken root.

[@plushdragonteddy]

something that’s really helped me personally understand the alt-right is a video by Shanspeare called “i infiltrated the manosphere.” lots of food for thought in that one. i’d also recommend philosophytube’s “tiktok vs democracy.” both videos were very helpful for understanding how exactly people fall down this path. there are a LOT of different pipelines, but those give the best overviews IMO

[@hopsonkim4952]

It’s always funny to me when conspiracy theorists are looking for shadowy secret groups running the country because for some reason the obvious group of wealthy ghouls openly running the country arent good enough

[@JO-fk5ho]

Weird Reads with Emily Louise does a stellar break down on new age ideology, its ties to theosophy, Elena Blavatsky and racist politics. This is yet another angle on this- thank you for your work!

[@talbothemlock1835]

After dealing with friends and family over the past 20+years I have found that the hate for the other is a part of their mind set. The grifters have just helped them over the line, you need to be aware that most people are hateful and have been accepting or tolerate in a performative manner for most of their lives but feel that they can speak as they please now, it has just been under the surface this whole time.

[@ra1nydr0ps]

❤

[@22MEAP]

Fellow vegan here..I think unfortunately some folks just go so far left they just make it back over to the other side..I've been masking since COVID also had reservations originally about the vaccines but then moved forward with the vaccines. Aftermath, I have yet to get COVID I haven't been sick in years.. I travel ALOT, I attend lots of festivals, and shows so I'm literally in the pits with folks surrounding me often. Bare minimum, just mask up in planes. Most of my coworkers and others I know travel and end up sick during their travels or when they return with COVID. Be safe out there ✌🏽

[@BryonyClaire]

OoOoh! I address that in the video - it's not the far left crowd, it's the far out crowd that head that way. Far left are revolutionaries and socialists, far out are the new age folk :) And yeah, honestly the plant based farmers market I used to go to in Auckland which had incredible vegan food had a bunch of the vendors protest that they wouldn't participate if they had to vaccinate or there was vaccine pass there. I was so disheartened

[@22MEAP]

​@@BryonyClaireThanks for correcting me! I got excited and sent this to my partner! I was like omg she's literally talking about what we've been discussing we just didn't have a term for it just would say too far left ya just went back over. Yes! Its such a bummer that happened to you. I'm sorry. I'd be so disheartened to find a fav. vegan space and then find out something like that..especially if vegan eateries are limited by you. I hope you have since found other eateries you enjoy 🫶🏾🫶🏾

[@thebowandbullet]

Same here. Vegan, masked since the start of Covid. Fully vaccinated. Haven't caught it yet. As there are fewer and fewer of us masking, I have noticed a disturbing trend of people standing too close and coughing in our direction as if they resent us for reminding them that this pandemic and other contagious illnesses (RSV, walking pneumonia, etc.) are not over. Well, one of these idiots finally gave me the flu despite my mask. My immune system was down due to intense ongoing work stress. Hadn't had the flu in over 10 years.

[@prodigal_southerner]

You cannot go so far left that you wind up on the right. Americans have so thoroughly tied their identities to consumerism, I think what happens is people try on different ideologies like pants and don't bother to interrogate their core values then reason their ways to a compatible ideology. I was raised by Christian fascists who made the mistake of emphasizing Jesus being loving, so when I became an adult and was exposed to new ideas, I started with the base assumption that we should love everyone. Now I'm a communist and would sooner die than support a fascist.

[@prodigal_southerner]

@@ARareAndDifferentTune_13 I hope you're active in a communist party.