The Cult of "Thermomix"

[@tiffanyspliff9623]

"This sorbet is so hard to make and it's so good" Me with a 15 year old Vitamix: "Whoops, turned this smoothie into sorbet, oh well"

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

My ex had a vitamix and it turned what was supposed to be a protein shake into a fluffy and very thick mousse. What a happy accident that was.

[@xanderplayz3446]

Yeah, Vitamixes are awesome.

[@doodeedoodee]

I laughed pretty hard at that one. Sorbet is like the easiest frozen treat to make.

[@jennoscura2381]

I have a juicer with a a solud peice that replces the screen. If you put frozen fruit in it, it grinds it up and spits out sorbet. You can also make nut butter that way. One of these days I may have to pony up for a vitamix. But my Nutri Bullet is still going strong. Yea I had to buy replacement blades. But the motor base is still working years later. It's a great blender aside from a smaller capacity than a Vitamix.

[@andrzej_autko]

Nie can I improve my nut with a Vitamix? ​@@jennoscura2381

[@System_Spark]

One of my biggest problems with “it can do everything” sort of kitchen devices is that even when they *do* work as advertised, now I have to clean it like 5 times if I wanna make a single fancy meal. Yea, I know I’ll have to clean just as much with different devices all achieving this, but I don’t have to clean nearly as much *while* cooking. I can actually just enjoy cooking and not have to scrub things every 10 minutes so I can move on to the next dish. The convenience of “it can do everything” is actually an inconvenience of “you’ll have to wash this 8 times a day.”

[@ninjadogs3389]

YES! this! its like those things that can chop all your veg, and your chicken and all that, there are so many nooks and crannies that it makes it hard to clean, I use it once and it sits by the sink waiting to be cleaned for so long, then I eventually clean it, and it goes in the cupboard unused for the next year gathering dust and taking up space. It is so much easier to cut the veg and meat with a knife and cutting board and then hand wash them, then it is to deal with cleaning those make your life simple tools.

[@chronischgeheilt]

Depends. I actually have more cleanup since my electric cooker broke and I'm Back to pots and pans. There is Gadgets where you can Cook all parts of the meal at the Same time.

[@BitmapFrogs]

ah you the fine people who make thermomix have thought of this and they sell thermomix companions, essentially a thermomix without the smart bits that connects to your thermomix so it knows what to do

[@kenenigans]

I honestly enjoy using multiple things in the kitchen when I cook... I would never get something that "can do everything" ... and yes I do hate cleaning up after myself but that's part of it 😂

[@friedmule5403]

Not a fanboy, just an owner of a cheaper clone of the product, but you do not have to clean in that way.:-) Imagine you have a cooking pot, you simply just put one thing in after the other and follow the instructions. In the end, do you have a ready to eat meal. The only thing that that machine does that your pot does not, is to guide you. It weighs, stir, blend, cook, fry, souse vide, steam boils, and so on, including a timer, so you end up in only having to use one pot for all tasks and clean afterward in the dishwasher.

[@clarab325]

pls my aunt and uncle have had something similar for years and they constantly talked about it to the point my entire family started making fun of them. it seems like this appliance single-handedly runs the house, takes the kids to school and pays the bills too

[@mags31]

As long as it's paying the bill! Don't have money left after buying sounds like😂

[@robmcleod2876]

My Thermomix totally pays the bills and takes the kids to school

[@yberlebenskynstler]

joinen crossing over into the anti-mlm space is something i didn't know i needed.

[@eli-se4zb]

Now I cannot live without lol must get more!

[@punchdrunkassassin]

My worlds are colliding 🥹

[@ThatDragonBlue]

I haven’t watched the vid yet, and I thought you were referring to malexmale when you said mlm, and tied with anti I thought Joinen went to the homophobe space, and I got scared LOL. Edit: said homophone lol

[@Eli-wl8es]

now let's just hope he won't follow into the "exposing shady businesses while yourself being shady af, plagiarizing shit, and threathening to sue people into silence" space like some other youtuber who focused on anti-mlm content did... (**cough cough** Iilluminaughtii **cough cough**)

[@Toasterkitty_v]

@@ThatDragonBlueHELP SAME 😭😭

[@fluffysharkdatazz9460]

“I’m not sponsored or biased, I just always purchase a $1000 neon sign for every brand or topic I talk about”

[@ArispeMatt]

"You see, I have discovered one crazy loophole in [local nation]'s tax code that makes a thousand dollar sign per brand a great tax break. For just three easy payments of 49.99, you can get my book on these helpful savings They don't want you to know about."

[@waifudefenders]

It changes through the video, it's interchangeable letters

[@secard4202]

Youre payin a G per neon sign? Who's your neon sign guy?

[@Quicksilver_Cookie]

You could cover your entire house in neon for a 1000. Are you mental? Those letters are interchangeable. Can find shit like this for very cheap.

[@cartoonhead9222]

To be fair, those LED signs are dirt cheap now. It's an LED strip in diffuser tube

[@viktoriak4332]

I cant help but notic that none of those recipies require grilling, sataying, baking or frying. Just blending and heating.

[@LilliD3]

That is the point. The way it is marketed is not good. It doesn't do everything and imo it is way to expensive even in europe where its half the price. But I used it as an AuPair for a year to make dinner. It's pretty convenient. I didn't have to think much on the days I didn't want to. You still have to use other appliances sometimes. I don't have it anymore, and I will not buy it. But if it was under 400 dollars I would definitely buy it. Just so I don't have to think about how to make a recipe every day.

[@lizcademy4809]

Considering that my typical dinner is a pan-fried protein, various seasonings, and roasted veggies or a salad, a ThermoMix of any sort isn't worth buying. [I take that back ... my InstantPot sees a lot of use too. Bur a ThermoMix can't pressure cook, either.] And ... I usually cook for one. Doesn't look like the ThermoMix can do small quantities.

[@LilliD3]

@lizcademy4809 I can understand that. I don't do much frying. I mostly make soups, stews, sauces and oven baked things.

[@AmorDeae]

​@@lizcademy4809 no one said it's a product for everyone no product is for everyone You not being interested doesn't make it a bad product With it's pricetag It's a "luxury" product, that helps make cooking many types of meals more convenient, especially in bigger portions I don't mind reheating so living alone, making multiple portions of food pretty quickly and mindlessly, don't even need to stir anything and then not needing to worry about cooking for a day or two was extremely convenient for the last two years or so

[@lenas6246]

@@AmorDeae pressure cookers exist

[@PossiblyTina]

In every job I've had, there was at least one colleague trying to sell everyone a thermomix.

[@AiraRia]

thermomix is ABSOLUTELY a cult. i used to have a friend whose mom had one when i told my friend i preferred regular hands-on cooking she nearly cried. they used their thermomix for EVERYTHING, like even just a regular hot chocolate, it was insanity.

[@sam-ib6lk]

i had a friend's mum who was the same 😭 she had like 3 different models too so she could make multiple things at once

[@Alicja09]

Okay yeah THIS is insanity. Like there is one at home rn but we use it for propably less than half the dishes we make, mainly desserts I think. Tbh it's just a thinf of convienice but over the year the prices SKYROCKETED.

[@Aidan_Neff]

Damn there gonna starve if the power grid is destroyed

[@robmcleod2876]

My wife bought a thermomix a couple years ago. We use it to cook rice, make peanut butter and mix cake batter. That's about it 🤣

[@PhillyCh3zSt3ak]

@@robmcleod2876 Uncle Rodger weeps at you for not using rice cooker.

[@supersammos]

As a professional baker the thermomix is great, but the way that shit is sold is harmful as fuck. You don't need this shit at your house. It's intended for chefs and other culinairy pros. The older ones are better then then new ones too imo. Not everything needs a fucking screen. Tactical buttons are goated on this shit

[@AkhierDragonheart]

I hate the move to screens for everything. Buttons are a simple mechanism that works and when it doesn't work? You generally can fix it by replacing a cheap pcb or even cheaper button. If a screen goes bad, that's going to cost you a pretty penny. And I went to school for IT, even if I don't use the degree for anything atm, so it isn't like I'm against technology. I just want a button that clicks when I press it and works. Need the button to do multiple things? Do it like the gas pumps where I live that have buttons around a screen which allow them to label those buttons whatever they want.

[@jed-henrywitkowski6470]

If Mrs. Jones spends that much on a gadget, she might as well get a Hobart and have her kitchen upgraded to support it!

[@herzogsbuick]

@@AkhierDragonheart the switches and buttons are cheap, but moving them around, reconfiguring them, rewiring them etc is very expensive when iterating. the screens and processors are more expensive sure, but it decreases R&D and production and iteration tremendously. so it'll continue to happen. buttons and tactile controls will be on the super-low-end-designed-30-years-ago models, and higher end pro stuff. mixed bag. i certainly prefer tactile controls. in the words of The Dude, "Yeah, well, I still jerk off manually"

[@jessehunter362]

@@AkhierDragonheart the one way screens are cheaper: they're cheaper when you're designing the product's interface, because you don't need to think about all the little button complexities. They help the company making the product cut costs, and that's it.

[@jon9103]

It allows them to cram half baked "features" into their marketing without needing dedicated buttons, just cram it on some random screen that buried 5 levels deep in menu hell.

[@paranoiarpincess]

The ONLY difference between an MLM and a pyramid scheme is that an MLM has an actual product or various products involved. Pyramid schemes is just “investing” money until the prison at the top has exhausted their resources and can run away with all of the money, whereas with an MLM you enough ally have a shitty product or two that you literally spent all of your money on in the meanwhile because it isn't a sustainable “business model.” (it isn't a business model at all but people like to claim it as such.)

[@ArturGlass.C]

I thought MLM were a category of Pyramid schemes ??

[@chronischgeheilt]

What you describe is still a pyramid scheme, just a product based one, they are a thing.

[@mightymeatymech]

ty i actually didn't know this info.. now it makes sense /g

[@paranoiarpincess]

@@mightymeatymech no problem :) I used to watch a LOT of anti-MLM stuff. It's quite fascinating and now any time I hear anything even a little MLMy I start feeling so sorry for those who fall for it. I feel silly though, I know what /s means but what does /g mean?

[@SpaceManRD]

@@paranoiarpincess "Genuine", I think. This also explains why the products pushed by MLMs tend to be so cheap, and worth cents to manufacture. Leggings, candles, supplements, shitty kitchen knives... it's the bare minimum to skirt the law.

[@bboops23]

"It can do everything." Yeah I heard that before. Looks at Magic Bullet infomercial wistfully.

[@dieseldragon6756]

Certainly looks as if it can leak your personal information with greater ease than any British airline... 😉

[@jrr851]

Atleast the magic bullet doesn't cost a mortgage payment.

[@bboops23]

@@jrr851 yup and it also had the world's best infomercial. It's so out there in the best way.

[@dieseldragon6756]

@@jrr851 _Me: Laughing in imminent hyperinflation..._ 💷📉😉

[@MyMika2004]

whats wrong with a blender?

[@daftoptimist]

This sounds a LOT like an MLM. It sounds like the Kirby of kitchen appliances.

[@D0MiN0ChAn]

It can really do a lot of things but the whole idea behind its purchase is VERY much MLM

[@Lyysabeth]

That is because it is an MLM lol

[@a_lethe_ion]

Sucking everything?

[@jennoscura2381]

I once went to a job interview for a job I saw in the newspaper. It wasn't until the interview that I found out that it was selling Kirby door to door. Glad I didn't get the job. My mom got scammed by a Kirby person once. My mom gave her old Kirby to my sister. When the sales lady came by my mom decided to buy a new one. But she ended up charging her mind and handed back the vacuum. The lady said she would refund the charge. Never got a refund. So my mom ended up paying for a vacuum she didn't get.

[@jed-henrywitkowski6470]

My late grandfather made good money hustling vacuum cleaners. He got a sweet ride and got the girl he was interested in because of it!

[@oroontheheels]

For a moment I didn’t understand why this product is even being advertised when it’s just glorified multi cooker. But turns out it’s not even multi cooker, it just mix things and warm up things?? That’s it?? Multi cooker can make yoghurt, soup, stew, bread, rice, potatoes. And only for 150$ (I searched most common model on Amazon). And it almost always comes with a free recipe booklet + millions of free recipe online. But this + planetary mixer (another 150$) + food scales (10-30$). Boom. You can cook almost every dish easy and lazily. This 3000$ glorified mixer is a joke…

[@bboops23]

I've never even heard of a multicooker, but now I have new tool to look up.

[@larifari12oder3]

No you can also chop, grate and bake with it. But yeah it's a glorified multi cooker, way too expensive at 3k. There are cheaper ones between 300-1k but I dunno what makes them different

[@oroontheheels]

@@bboops23 it’s a good kitchen tool! Especially those that come with free phone apps. There’s easy to navigate menu and many recipes. Just check the reviews first, because some of the cheaper models can give food a bit of plasticky taste and nobody wants that.

[@bboops23]

@@oroontheheels thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to explain what to look for!

[@dovahnok0957]

It does cook things up to 100c (soups, stews, pasta, etc). And it is useful depending what you regularly make and what your lifestyle is. My family moved a lot, so every extra appliance was a liability that we couldn't afford. However I don't recommend Thermomixes to anyone, as it is a very edge case tool that is useful for maybe 1% of the population

[@theultimateorange5046]

When I clicked on the video, I had no idea what a thermomix was. Well, I searched it up, and it turns out that in my country it's called Bimby. I have one, my grandparents also do. It's really not a big deal here, I just use it to make soup 😭

[@chiarapetrella5266]

Hold on Are you Italian?

[@theultimateorange5046]

@@chiarapetrella5266 no, i'm portuguese but yeah i think it's called Bimby in Italy too, I found it when I searched it up

[@chiarapetrella5266]

@@theultimateorange5046 yea that's why I had the doubt X3. Over here is also pretty popular, but in a relatively normal way. My mum is full of these cooking gadgets and tbf they do help to do stuff quicker, but as someone else said the main problem is cleaning them ._.

[@anyway.ilovemana]

Yeah thermomix is just a glorified soup maker, that's all it actually good for IMO

[@entrouxe]

It’s most definitely a big deal here in Portugal. And it works in the same way as explained in the video. I know plenty of people who were brainwashed into going in debt for years to pay for this or harassed into selling it, especially if they’re unemployed or in complicated financial situations. Definitely predatory.

[@audhdcoder]

Welcome to the anti-mlm space Joinen ;) Pretty much every MLM acts like this, they are often referred to as Commercial Cults

[@dieseldragon6756]

What's quite interesting is seeing that a lot of the MLM content Joinen features in this video actively competes against other MLMs. Look at that third-party ad on MLM1 where MLM2 tries to drive potential customers to using only „authorised¹“ ThermoMix agents! 😉 (¹ - You can bet your bottom Dollar, Pound or Euro that the only _„authorised“_ agents will be MLM2 and their immediate friends and family... 🛂)

[@user-vm6mw5xw7o]

I need him to look at Kangen water next

[@VixxyCopeland]

I don't see why anyone would want this thing? In my Instapot, I can make rice, slow cook chili, sous vide my steak, steam my veggables, and bake a cake. And anything else that it can't do , I have pots and pans to do that. That instapot was 40 bucks at a goodwill. Gadgets are super cool. But you don't need em to make a really good meal

[@justaperson4656]

I think it's supposed to prey on disabled people tbh. Like the slap chop (which I went to buy, before noticing all the reviews were 2*), it's marketed to people who find it difficult to cut things on their own, be it through poor motor control or another disability that affects cooking (I can't stand up for too long, for instance). They legally can't say they're marketing to disabled people, so they instead market things as "miracle products" so they can say they're marketed to able bodied people

[@fiarubold]

​@@justaperson4656i use a slap chop if I have to chop small hard things like nuts, but that's about it. Otherwise a knife is fine

[@machematix]

It's not for home cooks. Fine dining restaurants have used them for ten years to make the best purees and sorbets and stuff like that, but I'd never buy one for my home even if I could afford it on chef's shitty wages.

[@jennoscura2381]

The Instant Pot is great. For my larger Instant Pot I got a Michaelangelo air fryer lid. So that IP primarily does air fryer duty. My 3 quart does Instant Pot stuff. But if I ever want to make a big batch of stuff, my larger IP is there.

[@idontevenknow9758]

what thermomix is, is pretty much another as seen on TV product being used to funnel money. I would say every generation has had their thermomix of some kind. Like breadmakers was a thing in the 1980s-1990s, we had the slap chop and you can argue the air fryer is kinda on that level but its actually useful. They are usually over marketed as well.

[@oulimatan5661]

Well my mother and I simply bought the "Monsieur Cuisine" from LIDL (german supermarket chain) which costs not even a fourth of the price of a thermomix. LIDL actually got sued by Vorwerk (producers of thermomix) at least two times but they keep getting away with it - at least their recipes are for free💁🏿‍♀️

[@HansTheGeek]

I bought a bike yesterday. It's much cheaper than a car.

[@_isabelle19_]

@@HansTheGeek I also have a LIDL "Monsieur Cuisine" and my boyfriend has a Thermomix and the only real difference is that the Thermomix looks a bit nicer and the Monsieur Cuisine has more capacity, is a lot cheaper and recipes are free. Other than that, both of the devices are basically the same

[@HansTheGeek]

@@_isabelle19_yeha it’s like i sad. I just don’t get why people use cars when bikes are basically the same 😅

[@TheWipal]

​@HansTheGeek biking up hill makes me wanna di

[@windjager2177]

​@@HansTheGeektbf bikes arent as good for fsr differences

[@רפאל-ב]

7:15 "We're not just cooking Hummus, we're changing lives"

[@stopske9332]

So you're telling me that not only does the termomix hype still exist in some parts of the world; they're also running a pyramid scheme in Australia? What?!

[@dieseldragon6756]

It's when you find them successfully running pyramid schemes in Egypt you have to _really_ start worrying. People there have already known about them for over seven millenia... /groan/ 🙃

[@lodowawruszka]

and in Poland :")

[@jrr851]

And New Zealand

[@Alicja09]

​@@lodowawruszkaYeah.. *looks into my kitchen* At least my mom got smth extra and bought it when it was for 76 dollars not 300+..

[@miniak2708]

I've also got one, it's about 20 years old, afaik was pretty cheap, and works great. I'll probably never get a new one.​@@Alicja09

[@dieSchreckschraube]

"Every professional kitchen in Europe has one" is such a lie.

[@ghostrich3948]

When watching cooking shows, it does appear a lot in those pro kitchhens.

[@victoria2944]

It’s actually absolutely true.

[@billthorton6388]

At 8mins I realized they use the "sunk cost fallacy" to sell these things!

[@Josh-jw3go]

Yeah once you con a few sucker's into buying it, they sell it to others for you because they have to mentally justify how much money they wasted on it

[@erikarussell1142]

It’s amazing how we’ve made it this far without these “amazing tools”. How have I been making my own recipes and been cooking all these foods by my own lonesome all these years?!?

[@dieseldragon6756]

We had _different_ tools to hand in the past that are sadly no longer with us. Just look at British-built steam locomotives: No better way to cook a morning fry-up than in the firebox of one of those... 🚂🍳🥓🇬🇧😋

[@NightmareRex6]

@@dieseldragon6756 hey rockerfellers cant make money on train gas if they still just used water and wood eh?

[@ziggygunz2447]

So you really sent me down a rabbit hole with the Thermomix neon sign, apparently it's a SpellBrite neon letter system thing. You can click together anything you want and make custom signs daily or hourly whenever you want lol. If only i had a reason to get them (really expensive like over $1000 for an 88 piece set) i would lol.

[@gwenp3450]

At this price, it better do my grocery shopping, food prep, and wash dishes for me!

[@raelineskitchen2320]

If you use the menu planning function you can generate a doing list and send it to online shopping! It does also have 5 different pre-cleaning

[@jrr851]

​@@raelineskitchen2320Are you gonna share your referral code too?

[@LilliD3]

It also does at least half the food prep (though not all of it, depending on the recipe)

[@wsippel]

Thermomix is Vorwerk, Vorwerk products have cult-like communities, but the devices are extremely well built (and over-engineered), and they offer excellent support. Or used to, it's been a while - they've been around for ages. I knew a couple people who had Thermomix units and loved them, but they were mostly used to make various fruit preserves (I believe that's what they were originally designed for) and sauces. And that makes a lot of sense to me. That stuff can be done pretty much entirely in the machine, and it's easy and convenient enough so users were motivated to experiment. Just make a small batch, test it, change ratios and ingredients until you come up with a cool recipe, then make a few glasses of your favourites, or make custom recipes as gifts.

[@Canleaf08]

Vorwerk and their vaccums as well with the Vorwerkvertreter...

[@ToxNano]

My mom has a Thermomix and the build quality is so-so. The motor, blades, and pot are great, but the exterior is super cheap and imo looks quite ugly. The screen has awful viewing angles, the button is mushy, the interface is slow, and it takes ages to start up. The subscription stuff is a joke at that price.

[@yankis.]

I have an older Vorwerk vacuum... I mean it's a good vacuum, but I wouldn't shill it to anyone like it's a magical cure lol

[@OcyTaviAh]

Yeah this is an MLM (multi-level marketing) which is basically a pyramid scheme. My mum got into this in 2011, with the original thermomix. She was so into it that she bought 2 of the first model, which didn’t have the in-built computer or recipes at all, you manually chanced the temperature and speed and time separately. The biggest idea of buying it through a personal seller is that people won’t be able to fully utilise it well on their own, so it’s not that easy to use I guess lol. She only left when they came out with the new model and didn’t tell any of the people selling until the day before it launched and she genuinely felt betrayed. Thermomix does heat food up, but the part of it that’s actually trademarked is the blades being a unique shape (I literally did a school project on it in 2011 because my mum was so obsessed). Because it’s been around a while now, there’s several decent copy cats that are equally as good for a fraction of the cost, essentially being the same tool under a different name. MagiMix is the one I have.

[@leaha8602]

You know what else can do everything? My hands.

[@gabijankowska4625]

Omg so these are massive in the polish community! My mum almost fell out with friends over the thermomix as she refuses to buy one. Everyone swears they don't get a commission but the way these are pushed is absolutely insane (she legit got shouted at in the street during a dog walk)! Also after you buy it you have to pay for a subscription for the recipes after you buy the bloody machine!

[@lillexus5589]

It's big but not massive to be honest, lots of people in Poland have already exposed the product for being overpriced and advised to either skip on the concept completely or buy a cheaper alternative.

[@DamianMarx]

@@lillexus5589 i work in an office job with middle aged women... you have no idea how big of a meme it is in my friends cycle, cause they swear by it like it's the second coming of Jesus

[@LeTAlLtHeEaRTHsING]

I had a thermomix, got it about 10 years ago.. it really was great and I did use it a lot, but the issue is that in a perfect world you would be able to have a time to prep EVERYTHING before you can use it in the thermomix most of the time. It saves time in cooking but it still needs a lot of time in prep - that’s one of the biggest reasons I stopped using it.

[@ZBarl]

This machine cost more than my brother's sous vide. Which means to me anyone who isn't hardcore into cooking has no reason dropping that kind of money on a kitchen appliance, and anyone who is into cooking hard enough to buy a kitchen appliance that expensive certainly already have appliances like scales and mixers, and is better off buying more sophisticated or unique products

[@itsmeheadache6126]

yeah, but that’s their point. ,you can’t cook? with this thing you will with great success’ i was buying stand mixer lately and everyone around was asking why not thermomix. i answered ,i can cook, why would i need this thing’

[@Qrtuop]

You can do sous vide in Thermomix too lmao

[@jeanlou3]

Why is the sous vide the reference for expensive thing lol. A great sous vide stick is what, 200$?

[@ZBarl]

@jeanlou3 it's not necessarily an example for expensive thing, but an example for a product that I think only someone who is really into cooking will invest money in buying (and yes 200$ is a meaningful sum), so I don't see a reason to invest more into a kitchen appliance if you're not really into cooking

[@Sleipnirseight]

​@@jeanlou3$200 is a LOT of money to spend on a niche kitchen gadget. Especially in the current global economy where people can barely afford to keep a roof over their heads.

[@KazuNEET]

Make joinen buy a thermomix for the 1 million sub special.

[@elisewaddell4659]

Thermomixes are really popular in food development/food science labs. Most of the ones i have visited have at least one. Its the benefit of having mixing and cooking at the same time, to a set temperature without hving to hover. Super helpful for hydrating powders and pasteurising beverages, ice cream base, caramel sauce etc. And they're easily to clean so it you’re making 10 batches a day its not horrible for the technologist. But that also paid for by companies, and they save on having a salaried employee watching a thermometer while stirring a pot. Idont think it's worth it for regular people at all

[@mrflappie6553]

Exactly this. During my culinary school time I was able to get an internship with a Chef that did a lot of experimental cooking. He also had one of these things, and it's really good for what he was doing. Was very nice to use one for a while, but I think it's a real niche product. Not something to have in my own home kitchen.

[@freewilly1193]

Salary? Stirring is hourly work. 😂

[@o0Killerbluemchen0o]

My Mother is a Thermo-Girl. We had the Partys at our house and I grew up with the TM2 and learned to cook with it. Her TM2 is still alive and well, must be over 20 years old now - she is long out of the cult but still uses it on a daily bases. When I got my own flat, I wanted my own Thermomix... and so I bought a used TM2 for 250€ and I use it quite often without hyping it.

[@friedmule5403]

I own a Lidl version that costs 1/3 or less, and it is in fact amazing to use, but nowhere near the hype. What is great about the Lidl-version is that it's all free from there, and you just select your recipe, follow the steps, and you end up with a fairly good meal, cake or whatever. If you are an idiot in the kitchen as I am, then is it extremely useful, else is it just ok.

[@ThePieMaster219]

I've always been eyeing the Lidl version but I never really managed to find good reviews on it; Good to know at least one user say it's basically no different from this overpriced and overhyped quasi-pay per use crap.

[@friedmule5403]

@@ThePieMaster219 I am happy to help:-) Just so you know, there is a big difference, but mostly in the positive direction. The screen is much, much larger and I feel that you can get more accessories to it. One bad thing is how the lid gets closed, on the Lidl-model do you have to press the lid down and then turn it or to open, do the opposite. This means that you have to be careful when opening if it's hot inside, and the lid is annoying in the start. On the other hand, are there mo reason for getting the "original". All recopies are free and gets automatically updated. One thing that annoys me is that I can, for the life of me, not get the machine to connect to the phone-app, it may just be me, but I have never managed to do it.

[@SmashedHatProject]

just buy a food processor for $70 and an air fryer for $80

[@dieseldragon6756]

I managed to save money on the air friar: My local Vicar holds a pilots' license... ✝🛫🙃

[@MeCooper]

​@@dieseldragon6756 Lmao

[@ethannorman7537]

Booooooooooo

[@teekue]

can skip the air fryer if you've got an oven

[@dieseldragon6756]

@@teekue Pound for pound though, air fryers tend to be more energy efficient than a typical electric oven. I don't know how US ones compare to our British ones...But taking the air-fryer approach to cooking a pizza might need 2-3kWh of energy, compared to the ~6kWh I drew the last time I cooked a pizza for myself and a mate using his oven. 😇

[@lisamerkel]

the scariest thing for me is that unlike other mlm schemes and internet 'trends', the thermomix has actually crossed into the real life for me

[@corolla94]

I got mine from my mom, for free. She hates cooking but somehow considers it a part of her identity. The MLM lady managed to convince her it would make her children love her again (more or less), but after paying cash she realized it had a screen and practically never used it, or cooked at all, ever again. I use it to cut soffrito about once a month. For $0 I give it 3/5.

[@anyway.ilovemana]

My mom went to a thermomix party a few years ago, and then we got a dupe one from Lidl (we call it Lidlomix lmao) All I can say is, it is a really good, really strong heated blender, a rice cooker and a vegetable steamer, so you can make things like homemade ketchup, really nice creamy soups and stuff, but all the other functions are mediocre at best. We use it most often to cook rice and that's pretty much it. I am a baking enthusiast and honestly, I'd prefer a kitchenaid stand mixer 100% of the time. I tried very simple things, like beating egg whites or whipping cream, and it never comes out good, always overbeaten and curdling, so if you want to make butter extremely quickly and easily - get one XDDD I prefer not to waste heavy cream because it's f-ing expensive. 1st time I tried to make something more complicated in it with a built-in recipe, I chose spaghetti carbonara - it asked to boil the pasta on the stove XDDDD and it wanted me to put the bacon bits in it, with the blender spinning very slowly (wtf???) ofc the bacon wasn't cooked and it burnt to the bottom, that was a few years ago and the dark burn marks are still there, so don't put bacon in it even if it says so XDDDDD I don't recommend, get a stand mixer and a nice strong blender instead.

[@Floofie_boi]

Would you say it's worth the price?

[@anyway.ilovemana]

@@Floofie_boi If you will really use it often and make soups and ketchups and not only cook rice once every two weeks or so as I do, I'd say yes, the Lidl version was like ~500 USD give or take, it is on sale quite often.

[@blahblahblah007ish]

I genuinely did NOT know Thermomixes still existed 🤣🤣

[@D0MiN0ChAn]

WTF I was literally invited to a typically German Thermomix party last week (my bff has one and needed a new grinder for it or whatever, so she had to throw one for a discount) and now you grace us with a whole Video about it?! 😂 Coincidence?! I think not 👀

[@dieseldragon6756]

MLM *exists* in Germany?!?!?... 😳

[@D0MiN0ChAn]

@@dieseldragon6756 Vorwerk is a German brand. and the earliest Thermomixes are from 1980, so yeah :D It's a whole thing, right next to Tupperware.

[@unitlonda4925]

​@@dieseldragon6756Surprisingly enough, the Thermomix is *really* popular in Germany to the point that it feels like every 4th household actually has one of these things and they all swear by it. And yes, unfortunately mlm do exist in Germany. For one, Thermomix but then also very prominent is Tupperware

[@danielch6662]

I've seen it in a lab. A whole row of 10 of them. Don't know if Thermomix sponsored them, or they got a discount for buying so many. 1. it is super expensive 2. it has a big honking motor for a blender 3. it is mostly metal, has a heater to cook food 4. microcontroller controls the blade speed, temperature, various programs TLDR: expensive metal blender that cooks food in the cup. Cons: 1. plastic parts and rubber gaskets don't last forever. Spares are equally expensive. 2. like all blenders, cleaning can be a pain. You can clean a regular pan so much easier. Somebody convinced my mum to buy one. Didn't tell her about the pyramid part though. It was about 15-20 years ago. Less expensive, but still expensive.

[@bigmclargehuge8219]

No way my dude claimed he couldn't get an INSTANT POT to work. They're so ridiculously easy to use. Baffling.

[@knutjran5397]

As a professional chef who have worked whith and whithout a termomix i have some innsight. A termomix is just a blender whith a heating element thats it, but those to characteristics together can do allot of kitchen work. it is realy nice to have as a tool in your belt because it is so versatile and it is one of the best blenders i have ever used. just the fact that it can keep a stabile temperature and stir at the same time whithout supervision is awesome. Can you do everything whith out a thermomix ofc, but it realy just makes life easyer in the kitchen and is a exelent tool As for home cooking is it a must have? Not at all, why do you need a allmost industrial luxury bender for you homecooking for 2-4 people? its just a wast of potential for the mashine, and it takes up allot of space, and yes the price is expensive! so unless you are chef or is especially interested in cooking the thermomix is just a wast of money. TLDR. is thermomix anny good? absolutly!! do you need it in your life? most likely NO! *Edit* And for all the gadgets that come whith the mashine and the recipe book thing, i dont know i have never used them

[@BitmapFrogs]

you can keep your thermomixes but ah, what i would to own an actual pacojet at home

[@theteckdeckbrothers]

The new ones are not as good (mostly annoying to use) as the TM31 in my opinion. They seem to target regular people with this new model. The temperature control is a lot finer on that one tho

[@knutjran5397]

@@BitmapFrogs Realy a pacojet at home? just why would want that, a pacojet would maby be used 2 times a year, same argument as i mentioned above it takes up a highly contested real estate space in the kitchen and my kitchen at home is small enough as it is. ofc i would not complain if i had one but i really dont see the use for it to be justified to have at home

[@BitmapFrogs]

@@knutjran5397 instant icecream, instant soups and purees, instant sauces... idk man lol

[@lester9230]

But why look at anything objectively when you can have a clearly biased overview calling out another oppositely biased review? Of course, post-purchase rationalization is to blame. Not like people can become hostile due to FOMO.

[@Lauren-pl7bi]

It was really neat seeing Joinen switch his content up! Joinen if you read this, I enjoy your other content, but I also really enjoyed this! Keep doing whatever videos make you happy

[@Megu_Byte]

I've been super into anti MLM content recently... So I'm surprised to see Joinen show back up on my home page with MLM content lol

[@kittydoescosplay2416]

as a disabled person who used to cook but can't anymore, i really really hoped thermomix would be worth it. :( that's so unfortunate. if it did what it promises, i'd gladly save up the 1500 if it meant i can cook again.

[@stefaniastep]

i have it and love it, but it mostly depends on what you want to cook. some thongs it does great all on its own. for other dishes, it's more of a very advanced appliance. I'm overall very glad to have it tho. but the mlm part doesn't exist in my country, you just buy it. It's no different than a kitchen aid (in the sense that you could go without, but you might love having one). i'd stay away from the mlm part tho

[@Szpagin]

FYI, there are food processors that cost a fraction of the price and can be ordered from a store, rather than some in-person demonstration.

[@stefaniastep]

@@Szpagin FYI, had you bothered to read what i wrote, you would've noticed the "the mlm side of the business doesn't exist in my country" so, yeah, i didn't buy it at an in person demonstration, i simply ordered it and never heard from them again. MLMs are strictly prohibited in my country, so their business model is vastly different. It's also not as ridiculously expensive and predatory as it is in other countries such as the US. As for different options, i like what this one does and i like how it does it. As many professionals and home cooks also do. It suites me and my habits. Alternatives to kitchen aids also exist. Do you go bother every person with a kitchen aid as well? And if i want a certain product, what's it to you? There are cheaper phones than iPhones, cheaper cars than mercedes, cheaper ovens than the one with a steamer and dehydrator built in, cheaper plants than a monstera deliciosa, cheaper shoes than air max, cheaper drawing tablets than a cyntiq. And while i appreciate the sentiment behind your comment, i don't appreciate its condescending tone. I have used and tried countless food processors. None of those compare to the thermomix in terms of efficiency, uses, practicality, precision, versatility and durability, in my experience. I used the thing and it cleans itself or i can chuck it in the dishwasher. Given that i cook a lot, I know what i like using and why.

[@stefaniastep]

@@Szpagin idk why the previous comment disappeared but. Had you read what i wrote, you would've seen the "the mlm part doesn't exist in my country". This means that their business model has to be different due to strict anti mlm laws. The price is also cheaper, you don't have to buy it through a demonstration, they don't bother you after you buy it and the partnership program for those who want to do it is less predatory. They just brought it to me, explained how it works and how the warranty works and then left. both times i bought one (the first one i gifted to my best friend and it took a while to explain how to use it to the fullest, despite her having already used it with me) As for the product itself, it works for me, i find myself glad to have it and use it constantly. It's also more convenient, reliable, precise, easy to wash and durable than any other food processor and kitchen appliance i've ever owned. IMO it does what it promises most of the time. This same reasoning could be applied to phones, headphones, plates, ovens, tvs, cars. Some people want to have certain things, it's ok. Since the OP of this comment thread is disabled, i gave insight. Yes, it can cook whole recipes without having to be washed between steps, yes, it can cook a whole meal at once, yes, it's easy to clean (has a function to clean itself or can be chucked in the dishwasher). Since idk where OP is from, i reiterate to stay away from MLMs. But idk why i should lie and say it's a terrible product. It depends on how often you cook and what you cook, that's it.

[@mrscookie8142]

I only have one because my mom upgraded to the newer model. It's nice to have but not necessary. I enjoy using it for risotto, soup or chopping a lot of veggis.

[@theEumenides]

I first heard of a Thermomix when I moved to Germany 15 years ago. It's a super common household appliance there. There are even tons of cookbooks just for the Thermomix. As another commenter mentioned, most people I know use it for soup. I don't think it has the MLM aspect in Germany.

[@LennyIreland]

Oh, believe me, it does! A colleague invited me to a show cooking. She was very up front with it. She wanted a second one for the Caravan and if she got 3 people to buy it, just like in this video, she'd get one for free. They made the pepper broccoli salad that was mentioned, which was alright in flavour but looked terrible, because it's basically shredding the veg, not slicing, and some of the worst rolls I've ever had! They used way too much yeast and were under proofed. At least my table was equally as unimpressed as I, so we had a fun evening. But if I remember they did manage to sell 3 units by inviting about 20 people...

[@sssnowpeasss9626]

As someone who’s mum has joined this MLM. It’s an Okay tool. Just okay. It’s helpful for people with learning disabilities as the recipes are easier to follow along, or disabilities in general as you don’t have to move or stand long to cook a meal (saying this as a disabled person with disabled siblings), but if you are fully able bodied, able minded person you really don’t need one. I still don’t fully support the idea of thermomixes bc they’re apart of an MLM. And would recommend not purchasing or joining their program you won’t get rich from selling them, the profit they make from a sale verses the profit you make is massive. You make very little selling thermomixes. I wish they just sold it as assistive tech (for a far cheaper price, especially for Cookidoo) rather then using the MLM model. But yeah, just thought I’d give the unique perspective as someone who owns one but very much so isn’t in the cult mindset of having one. TLDR: you really don’t need one. It’s not some magic tool, that’ll fix your life and cure your depression. It’s just a bunch of kitchen tools jammed into one.

[@AntheanCeilliers]

This is weirdly one of my comfort videos. I love this stuff.

[@darknessblades]

LIDL has one that is much cheaper, and does not force you to get a subscription for recipes it also has much much better warranty conditions.

[@TurissChin]

Yuup. It's very handy

[@artur6912]

The lidlomix also has the added bonus of making every Thermomix owner go ballistic when you mention them.

[@darknessblades]

@@artur6912 never knew that. would love to see those tiktoks of them going balistic

[@linus1703]

How to Cook That did a video on them and showed how they work, it seems they're more a device for a commercial kitchen because they can make large quantities with little effort required but that isn't much of an advantage in a normal kitchen.

[@adriannamalawska3089]

I was pretty shocked when my mum bought her Thermomix because of how expensive it is. I’m ashamed to admit I use it every time I visit her 😬 however, I will say that the subscription part is an absolute scam… and the worst part is that without it the machine is basically just a fancy looking mixer/scale/steamer… Basically once you fork out the insane cost for the machine you have to continue paying for it to actually be worth it 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ If you have the disposable income to afford this (and will do for as long as you want to use it) then sure it’s worth it. Otherwise you’ll spend an insane amount of money for it to sit in the corner and occasionally use the scale and chop function

[@TenmasSchoolOfThought]

I owned a thermomix cause it honestly makes cooking with ADHD a lot easier. And my family had it for almost 10 years now so it's just been part of my life at this point. The idea sounds stupid at first but after the first few ice creams and mashed potatoes I was hooked and since then I have made lots of great stuff with it. Lots of stuff college kids wouldn't make in their cramped dorm rooms or limited budget. Like there's no way I can make a sauce(or a lot of things) while writing an essay because I'd have to check on it and keep stirring, but with the thermomix I can do that by plopping the ingredients in. I have also made pizza from scratch a lot cause money was tight and a huge sack of flour is way cheaper than buying pizza everyday even if you go to the cheap places or buy them frozen. The best use I recently discovered is using it to grind meat just before making menchi-katsu and freshly grinded meat tastes so much better than pregrinds.

[@brylcreemy]

I need a Thermomix like I need a Presto Hotdogger or a Ronco Egg Scrambler.

[@richardk5246]

I worked in a kitchen that had one and my first day at work I broke it. It was put on the floor behind me and I stepped back and tripped up and fell on it. The owner wanted to sack me on the spot. I felt bad that it was broken but what a**hole puts one on the floor directly behind someone who's working?

[@Alyssa_M513]

How have I not heard of this MLM before?! Wild.

[@jakel2837]

It's worth noting that the model of Kitchenaid stand mixers meant for small professional settings is less than half the price of one of these things. A normal mixer that the average home cook would want as a luxury is $300

[@PeacefulAutistic]

Joinen’s new content pivot is fantastic!!

[@thegpshowtheshow]

Ìm Nerodiverse and use a Thermomix at home and it makes it possible for me to do cooking since it breaks down the steps of cooking into manageable portions and has alarms for when each step is complete so there is no risk of me burning down my house 😅. Thermomix is really popular among disabled people. I had no idea it had MLM side!

[@tiny._.sxnshine]

I always thought a thermomix is for people that dont like cooking but wanna seem like they do

[@MeCooper]

My favourite salesperson thing when it comes to cookware is when they start saying that you can _"cook healthier"_ hahaha Usually just means it's healthier than frying. I'm fortunate that my country doesn't allow such false advertising.

[@ArtoriasNX]

In fairness to that Awarehousechef dude he does have different light things for every thing he reviews, so it's not just a thermomix one lmao

[@itsgonnabeanaurfromme]

Why? He reviews other things. So what? He's selling thermomix also. Him saying unbiased is incredibly disingenuous

[@ArtoriasNX]

@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme I just meant literally in regards to the light thing in the background only.

[@igotes]

The sign thing is probably a kit with a whole load of illuminated letters that you can build your own "neon" signs with. Like a fancy fridge magnet alphabet.

[@narfeyfjola]

I have a Thermomix. Looking at the 2 things it does, it does sound appealing. You can heat things while the device stirs automatically. We mostly just use it as a blender and it's a good one. The only thing I've found it clearly improves is making eggnog. So, it is useful once a year

[@kairi99roxas]

Ive never heard of this product before, but I love this video!

[@Replicanna-rl6zg]

Today I made stuffed aubergine in oven (and I don't even like cooking). I forgot I have a kitchen appliance that could do all the chopping for me and used a knife. I feel stupid. Yet I have never ever heard of thermomix before, but I am sure I will get recommendations after this. Not because of Joinen, but because I spoke about it aloud. I am not a smart one

[@TheRealNikken]

More joinen!

[@OiOBlinkingOwl]

I have been WAITING for this video. I discovered this brand while I was in Germany and NO ONE was talking about it.

[@therats9782]

The price killed me

[@marctestarossa]

as a former professional chef in Germany I can say for a fact that the thermomix is a fantastic product. For professionals. Many restaurants I know have one and use it every day. Obviously not all those gadgets like that steam cooking accessory or god forbid the built in recipe programs 😂🙈 the one to get imho is the TM31, it’s the last one with actual buttons and without the unnecessary wifi, recipes, all this stuff that gets more in the way than it helps you work. For professional use the price is absolutely okay, for private use it’s a luxury device. If vorwerk would produce a professional model without all the unnecessary clutter, actual buttons and a larger capacity it would sell like crazy, even if it was 3000 €.

[@marctestarossa]

I actually had no idea that this marketing is happening. If I wanted one (and could afford one 😂) I would go to my local Vorwerk shop here in my city and buy one. But at home you don‘t need one. Trust me. Learn how to cook.

[@Lezl0rLetztlich]

What exactly do you use it for at work?

[@marctestarossa]

@@Lezl0rLetztlich I don‘t work in a kitchen anymore, so I don‘t know if anybody actually profits form all those digital features, but here‘s some examples of how we did use the thermomix: - spice mixes from whole spices - make powdered sugar or powdered salt (the thermomix has a mode where the blades spin backwards, so you don‘t blunt the blades with the extremely hard minerals). normal sugar is way less expensive than premade powdered sugar - bringing chocolate to exact temperatures - fine chopping of vegetables (for example for soffritto) or chopped nuts - small portions of whisked egg whites, mayo and other things, but really just for small batches, we had other machines for making lots of whipped cream etc. - using it as a normal blender (the blending/mixing capabilities of this device are extraordinary, for example mushroom soup gets like perfectly smooth out of this thing, no need to pass or anything) - pesto or other pastes And I know that there are many other use cases in the patisserie, but I only worked in that department in very big kitchens where we had bigger and more specialized equipment. Like a Pacojet. but there‘s a big BUT: - it‘s not the fastest to clean, so we had several pots that went through cleaning while you clean and reuse the blade section - it‘s very low capacity, so it‘s more often used in smaller kitchens In professional kitchens you always try to do as many things at the same time possible, so that‘s why we use machines. But you also tend to work in larger badges, so the use of the thermomix is limited and you often see more like industrial equipment to whip 10 litres of cream or make many kilos of pitta dough at once. But the small size is also a plus if you don‘t have much space in your kitchen or for examples in hotels you often have a huge prep kitchen and a smaller kitchen in the restaurant. Hope that helped a bit

[@Lezl0rLetztlich]

@@marctestarossa Thank you for the details. I was wondering about the capacity. I believe you when you say that it helped in your work, but I see no place for it in (my version of) a professional kitchen. After all my years of experience in fine-dining, everything it can do can be done another way... and the things which it is extra qualified for (heat + stirring) are needed in much larger quantities. The price is affordable for a professional kitchen, that doesn't mean it's worth it. This is my opinion, I respect your experience with it, of course. :)

[@Lezl0rLetztlich]

@@marctestarossa Aber ich habe noch nie in Deutschland als Köchin gearbeitet. Ich arbeite hier als Englischfremdsprachenassistentin ;)

[@ameliarosenes1330]

Just wanting to balance the scale here in the comments; there are demographics that do have a need for this type of product: busy families who need quick and easy healthy meals, people living with disabilities or chronic health issues and people who don't have the room for multiple cheaper appliances in their home. Cooking brings me a lot of joy, but as someone living with chronic health issues (which got worse after getting long COVID) the Thermomix has meant we can quickly get a healthy meal on the table, even on my worst days, instead of spending way too much on take-out multiple times a week. I strongly dislike MLM style organisations, however, I don't think it's fair to write off a good product because of some of the people who go too hard trying to sell it

[@ionamorwenna5564]

As someone who has a Thermomix because my mother gave me her old one, gosh the "active" part of the community gives me secondhand embarrassment. It's a fancy kitchen gadget that's handy to have if you're not good at preparing ingredients by hand, it is not the next best thing since the invention of bread. EDIT: omg thank you for going into the Cookidoo thing. I hate everything about it.

[@nyxie86]

only thing id buy for that price is a freeze drier

[@graysaltine6035]

about 13 years ago now, was currently working in a fine dining place in Normandy, and we had one of these and it was used to make precisely 2 things; Foie Gras soup Creme Anglaise (french custard) We didn't even bother to use it for risotto (which is one of the things I would say it DOES do rather well, like the above 2) and just made it ourselves. It was used as a self-heating blender/stirrer only. One day it broke and none of the apprentices or commis' remembered how to make fucking creme anglaise on a stove. We even had spatulas with built-in thermometers and they still fucked it up. Letting a robot do the work for you when you fully understand the work yourself is one thing, but how tf are you supposed to know if it's doing it right if you don't know how to cook to begin with? I'm pretty sure the Thermomix would consistently overcook creme anglaise and obviously couldn't ice-bath it as soon as it hit 84 degrees, so it was probably the high-speed blending that re-emulsified any "omelette bits" back into a creamy texture (you can use a stick blender to save an overcooked/split creme anglaise the same way). Anyway it's another case "If you know, you can do it yourself; If you don't know, you're not gonna know the difference". People will do and buy literally anything before learning how to cook properly. These things are for small, "modern" restaurant kitchens that don't want to hire a whole other prep cook to make like 3 extra things. It's a tool, not a miracle.

[@larifari12oder3]

But its so good 😭😭😭😭 a coworker sometimes brings their Thermomix to work and makes dips, soups, bread, sauce, salad and ice cream with it. Its way too expensive tho and you can make everything without it. But its more convenient

[@lbennett5027]

Ohhh my goodness, the entire time I was trying to figure out your accent! You generally sound Australian but some of your R sounds are like an Irish accent and then some words you say sound American. Great video!

[@dovahnok0957]

Thermomixes are very useful... if you cook/bake a lot. My mom easily uses it 5+ times a day, and since we move a lot it means she can move fewer appliances around. However, it's not for everyone. Most people can easily get by with a cheap blender and mixing bowl

[@DayleDiamond]

Instant Pot recipes are free online, and many are hosted by the IP website. They're comparable with competitor's electric pressure cookers. Adaquate products don't need MLM gimmicks.

[@LittleKikiBear]

This brand gives me pampered chef vibes. I remember being a sucker for their products!

[@jz4057]

First thing comes in mind is that do i have to cook everything one by one, and the cleaning involved in between. It would take about 8 hours to cook a dinner for 6.

[@lynbattersby]

I can't speak for the consultant stuff, but... My son died 4 1/2 years ago. I got a life insurance pay out as a result. I didn't want it, so I put it aside for a year. 12 months later, I decided to use a portion to buy a Thermomix. These days, my husband and I come home from school (we're teachers), throw food into the Thermomix, and crawl into bed. Are we depressed and grief-stricken? Yes. Do we eat well? Also, yes. Best money we've ever spent.

[@lillexus5589]

Very confused about this comment to be honest

[@alinayossimouse]

Earlier Thermomix models were genuinely good kitchen appliances, before the whole guided recipes thing. You just use the thing manually, it's great for blending things you also want to heat like sauces, cream soups, that sort of deal. That's its main strength and what I use the Thermomix for that I've gotten handed down from my mom. The culty part of it is really freaking concerning though and the whole internet connected recipe thing is stupid. Heck they replaced knobs and buttons with a touch screen. In the kitchen. Where I probably have dirty hands. Why?

[@ScampScanner]

Always glad to see new Joinen vids.

[@Sallygoodberrygoodberry]

Yessss

[@jim0jimmylee810]

Scientology got nothing on this bad Boy.

[@TheLobstersoup]

You'd be surprised how good this thing is. I don't own one, but I worked as a cook and the Thermomix doesn't screw up any of the things it does. It does some things better than others. None of the competition come close to getting the same results. To some people this may be worth the price, just in order to make a perfect Zabaione or something they don't want to mess up. It's kinda for people who wish they had a kitchen help.

[@AkhierDragonheart]

Which is really the biggest shame about it. They're amazing in a professional setting or for someone who has the money and wants to do stuff that it does well. Like, people buy espresso machines that cost thousands of dollars, only make espresso, and you can't exactly use it too often in a day if you don't want the caffeine jitters. Expensive kitchen gadgets are fine. This company just decided they wanted to sell it via MLM. Hell, they could have even still had the cult part and been less scammy if it wasn't an MLM.

[@theteckdeckbrothers]

As a professional chef, termomixers are very useful machines… in a professional kitchen. The older models are really good. They didn’t have the touchscreen and all the apps. It seems like they really want to appeal to regular people. The new ones are borderline useless in professional kitchens, they are annoying to control, slow to open and close, every time you plug them in they have a warning slideshow. Sad to see the machine turn to sh**

[@caj56]

Yay, Joinen is back

[@frtzkng]

Thermomix, the vasectomy of the kitchen. Easiest way to identify owners of either is to listen cuz they *won't shut the hell up about it*

[@jrr851]

I saw a woman trying to sell this at a yard sale. The conversation ended after i tried to escape the Android shell imterface on the touchscreen and asked "how many house payments" it cost. Its got everything i love. Pushy MLM, Internet of Shit, Subscription Services, and cooking!. Im running away with the fierceness.

[@stefaniastep]

important: it's not an MLM everywhere. In some countries you just buy it and that's it. like an oven, a kitchen aid, a steamer. Many people see value in those things and buy them. but the mlm part doesn't exist everywhere (eg many european countries)

[@artur6912]

My mom wanted to buy one, because while not cheap, it wouldn't also bankrupt the family. Turns out it's only MLM in Poland and you can't buy it normally. This alone was reason enough to keep as far away from them as possible. The cheaper Lidl knockoff also helped.

[@stefaniastep]

@@artur6912 then yeah, it's not worth it. I like Lidl products and was actually wondering if the food processor is also good. And anyway tech is advancing so fast that "knockoffs" are not as bad as they used to be 20 years ago. years ago when it came out it was definitely more unique. nowadays, many other food appliances do what the thermomix does. when we first got it (10?15?) years ago, the difference with other food processors was incredible, so i'm sure a huge chunk of their clientele is returning costumers upgrading their models. Vorwerk's products seem to me to be pretty reliable and efficient, which makes them solid purchases on their own and makes the MLM aspect even more annoying. If I had to endure constant harassment and more than a 30 minute talk to sign the contract of purchase and have a brief explanation while setting it up, I would have a far worse opinion of it. But marketing is what drives many of these things. I bet they'll come up with a food processor or vacuum cleaner that uses "revolutionary AI" or something, just to use the newest buzzword.

[@myra0224]

Petition for Joinen to make a cooking channel

[@HumpaLumpaBiriBam]

Thermomix is either for total kitchen dummies OR for kitchen pros. IF you are anything in between, dont bother! I have friends who don't use it as often as they should/could. ie.18:45 - pancakes. Some people dont know what dough is made of, what ingredients do they need. Yes you need skills with pan and flipping pancakes but that's learning curve. -For pros: they gonna have perfect consistent dough, which they might customize to their needs(and save as their own recipe). Dummies will use it to learn/start cooking. For pros Thermomix is "the third hand".

[@Sotweetie]

Here's a thought: Hire a private chef! You'll save money and they will *actually* do everything!

[@cargo_vroom9729]

I am extremely concerned when I saw a kitchen appliance with a tablet stuck on the front. That's never going to end well.

[@TeKett]

This is just pressure cookers and air fryers all over again. They can do everything, every home needs one. Lets just ignore that they are just a pan and an oven. And this one is just a fancy blender.

[@Replicanna-rl6zg]

Pressure cooker has a meaning though

[@sweatygoblin2335]

@@Replicanna-rl6zg This is correct. Instant pots are really shitty pressure cookers, can't get anywhere close to the PSI a regular stovetop pressure cooker will - and that pressure cooker probably costs less than $100. Also if you have an oven and buy an air fryer anyway, you're kinda dumb. They're the same thing, and you already had one.

[@_goatlady_]

These were blowing up and spewing boiling food all over kitchens a few years ago. Quite a few people were hurt

[@fermitupoupon1754]

The biggest issue I have with this thing apart from the price is that it doesn't do the one thing I really wish it'd do. It does not clean itself. I would pay 2500 for a foodprocessor type contraption if it actually cleaned itself. Because the cleaning is always the biggest PITA with these things. Parts of it can't go in the dishwasher, but do get dirty, or you have to take things apart before it goes in the dishwasher, or it's designed in a stupid way, so when you put it in the dishwasher, there will always be stagnant disgusting dishwasher water in it in the end and it'll make everything in the dishwasher smell like pond scum. I paid over 1500 euro for an oven that has a button and it cleans itself to the point where all I have to do is take a bit of moist paper towel and wave it around inside and it's basically fresh-from-the-factory clean again. Same with fridges and freezers, pay a bit more for the no-frost model, because it does basically the most annoying thing for you. No need to worry, no hassle. But things like this thermomix thing, it's probably a huge PITA to clean it. Which at this price point is just unacceptable.

[@foxbearchillinbytheriver]

I think this product is for people who want to feel like they can make tasty food without learning the craft or putting in the effort. But isn’t that what restaurants are good for? Procuring tasty food you didn’t make

[@felipenascimento1083]

"every kitchen in europe has one" i live in europe for 2 years and never seen one

[@smalltime0]

The Katering Show's review of the Thermomix from 9 years ago is all you need to know about the Thermomix It is fully capable of making hot, wet, rice.