The Cultivated Narcissism of Hollywood | Adrian Grenier

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In the most recent podcast with actor and environmental advocate Adrian Grenier, he and Dr. Peterson discuss the state of mind actors often embody, and the hedonism it leads to.
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[@jimcorbett3764]

It's good to hear a celebrity admit this. So many of them try so hard to make everyone think they are just humble, good natured, generous people and they are just the opposite.

[@jeffrey3498]

They're acting 🤣

[@ryanmccann2257]

What are we actually talking about?

[@MrRatclima]

Sounds like communists.

[@alenaadamkova7617]

The Brain isnt able to do two big things at once. To feel your own pain and at the same time the pain of someone else. When you feel your pain the brain isnt able to feel the pain of others. and when you feel pain or anxiety of others you are not able to feel or solve your own pain. or feel empathy as e well. Brain can do one big task at once not two big tasks at once. Therefore forgive people for their ignorance of not understanding you pain. and forgive each other. because if they feel pain, or anxiety, their brain isnt able at the same moment feel anxiety of other people, therefore the brain feels like judgmental toward people. But as people calm down and heal emotions only then they may feel empathy to each other.

[@philippedrolet612]

@@MrRatclimaor billionaires

[@STse-ks5jg]

I used to work out at a private gym around Beverly Hills around the time Entourage was the top show; Adrian was there daily.... He was always NICE, quiet and respectful... Nice to see!

[@mr.doctorcaptain1124]

Zero chance that man was there daily lol

[@SuperFilmregisseur]

He seems amazing

[@kd2533]

At 20, I was obsessed with celebs. At 41, award shows make me gag and I don't know who's cool anymore 😂

[@JANFU_Nova]

yikes. I could never imagine being obsessed with other people. Other people fucking suck.

[@JoJo-xo7lg]

Look in the mirror, it's you.

[@martingundersen6164]

Nobody is cool anymore, they can't shut up about their every thought and opinion.

[@liamsouthwell27]

Maybe that exactly how the system was designed to be that way....

[@gldn2092]

don't worship false idols, ever.

[@sebastianrodriguez8692]

I have always felt that in order for someone to be famous, really famous, some sort of narcissim is need within that person.

[@gideonsikk8733]

Same for heroism...I ain't got time for heros

[@whatshappening3327]

The sad part is that wanting to be in the performing arts is often motivated much more because the person tragically can’t do anything else well or even close to as well as they can sing, act, dance, play instrument etc. But to want fame from it…that’s where you can lose your soul.

[@gideonsikk8733]

@whatshappening3327 sounds like me . Funny I spent most of my early life working and wishing for that breakthrough but when it finally came ,it wasn't what I wanted and found I felt quite sad . May e I could if managed it better at the time ..im glad I made a move and found out for myself . That the grass isn't necessarily greener ,,t some things look better from a distance 😉

[@chanceschimel2032]

I concur for scripted entertainment, but for athletics I don’t think this mold necessarily applies as strongly as for the performing arts. Take for instance: Pete Sampras, Nikola Jokic, Steve Nash, Tim Duncan, Steffi Graf…. Ppl that were all about the art, not the circus surrounding it. …maybe performing arts has that too… I hear Cillian Murphy hates the lime light…

[@closer71]

Maybe. In the old days (pre-Internet) you had to have talent in order to be famous. Most people were just famous because they were incredibly good at something not because they're narcissists. Nowadays, yeah. Most famous people are just self-obsessed, god-hating pyschopaths.

[@MKE87]

I have always loved Adrian. He is so humble. Thank you, Dr. Peterson, for interviewing such a God-fearing man.

[@CursedWheelieBin]

Actor 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@johnloving9401]

Soft spoken, yes....

[@voguehaven5154]

he's an Actor.

[@aduncaroo]

Lol I don’t think you learned a thing

[@bettersteps]

I worked at very hip bar in L.A. for a long time and met several celebrities. I was lucky, the celebrities I met were all good people. I learned that celebrities are just people with a different job. Nothing other than that separates a celebrity from someone like me working the bar. NOTHING. Popularity, fame and money doesn't make anyone a better person. Celebrities should be thankful they have the job they have.

[@rationalconservative386]

Obviously...... I never understood why people fawn over "celebrities". I was 30 when I got a job that allowed me to meet hundreds of them. Many would scoff when I didn't treat them like a god. I don't look for man's approval. Only God, the father, and his son, Jesus Christ, is the only one I put on a pedestal. I quit that job 3 years ago. It paid extremely well, but my happiness and my relationship with God is much more important. Also, they were left wing nuts and pushed for the jab. I refused the jab and I've NEVER been a leftist (why people still call them "liberal" is beyond me).

[@haveaday1812]

We all poop out the same hole. And we all are all headed to the same destination.

[@belikewater7717]

I waited tables at The House of Blues in Vegas (opening team member- 10 yrs) I waited on lots of celebrities. Probably the most down to earth that I spent about an hour of time with was Dee Snider (Anaheim location) and all of guys from Bare Naked Ladies (Vegas).Treated me like a person and looked me in the eye and shared small fun facts about their job as a celebrity basically they were relational. Jim Belushi was also very nice. I didn’t wait on him personally, but I took care of his band and he came over and asked me if they were treating me well.

[@metapolitikgedanken612]

I don't think that it is the celebrities themselves that are the primary problem in the movie industry. There is other people calling the shots and most will probably not even know them.

[@belikewater7717]

@@metapolitikgedanken612 true, most anything perpetuated comes from the top.

[@johnqpublic2718]

Man i forgot all about how much I enjoyed Entourage.

[@oakleyorbit]

Such a good show I always try go back and watch it!

[@unkorichie2029]

Time to start binging! My wife and I started watching it for the 9th time again

[@brianbell564]

Irreverent and hilarious!

[@timaltevers9436]

As an actor myself it has been amazing to see how many actors suffer from delusions of grandeur of self.

[@kylerichardson4257]

What have we seen you in?

[@Kat-sp5td]

@@kylerichardson4257 its not because he's an actor that ''we've seen him'' , darling

[@fitfirst4468]

actor my a$$

[@angelasanchez4413]

Man....these replies are showing egos here. Like there are no other actors in the world besides the ones in your limited universes?? For the love of all things holy!! Talk about narcissism. To call oneself associated with their craft such as artist, musician, vocalist, and/or actor, does NOT imply they be famous OR professionally paid. Please pull your head out of your A$$. If it was said "i am a paid professional actor...." then you can jump in and start clowning. Until then.... please just stop. You are irrelevant and annoying. Are you an actor?? I am not. I am a paid professional Artist. 🧑‍🎨

[@BodieOutdoors]

I stopped consuming all Hollywood over a Decade ago.

[@markdove5930]

I'm pretty sure a lot of people did actually

[@Ejexion]

You've missed nothing. There's no creativity. There's only politics. And only one kind of politics.

[@karnliberated]

Congratulations

[@DudeMan-xs3db]

@@EjexionBro missed Dune Part One and Two

[@sheepherder911]

​@@DudeMan-xs3db he didn't miss Zendaya's wooden acting and poor character arc comparatively He didn't miss the lack of Space Guild and the fleshed out concept of *why* they need spice so bad. I don't know. It's a great movie, they both are, but it needed something more to make it a masterpiece, and 100% less Zendaya

[@meeksbennett]

These shorter videos are a help. Some of my mental challenges revolve around attention, and commitment to longer videos, but I really love listening to you, and your guests, and or hosts.

[@Hunter_Edwards]

The real question is, how does Ari Gold feel about all of this?

[@jacquelineaslan8403]

Ikr…

[@jpa145]

“Lloyd!!!!!!!!”

[@user-ow7xy9iv1n]

I met Adrian multiple times once in Manhattan once in Miami he’s such a humble guy! Very very respectful.

[@quantumegos]

Great interview. Loved entourage. Made me want to try to become and actor and want even an agent but once you get into Hollywood…man. It’s definitely a different world. He’s spot on

[@joehooper89]

In hindsight, its clear that they picked the perfect actor to act out the hollywoodized version of mark walhbergs life. Especially when you see how humble both of them are now

[@jackbauer789]

have you met mark? He's not humble.

[@DeflatingAtheism]

It’s funny that they mention Russell Brand in this interview, because in “Get Him To The Greek”, Russell basically played his debauched self on screen as well.

[@thehardtruth3027]

Walhberg is humble because he knows he has a felony record, and has been given richest and opportunity beyond his wildest imgagination.

[@jomarro9935]

Agree 💯

[@Filmwhatmatters]

Entourage one of my favorite series.

[@johnobrien1528]

Billy Walsh was probably it’s most wicked character

[@Razear]

The younger an entertainer gets hoisted into the limelight, the less self-awareness they tend to have, because that's all they've ever been accustomed to. He seems like an introspective guy, but that's certainly not common of most celebrities with a household name. There's a level of detachment that famous people have to the experience of the ordinary person, and it's difficult for them to empathize if their elitist bubble is all they've ever known.

[@david_heffner]

Fascinating interview. Thanks for doing this guys !

[@juliannewaters7115]

Adrian is very down to earth. Did a Hallmark show with him years ago with Amy Smart, and Adrian was a consummate professional. Interesting to hear more of his perspective on the fame of Entourage, but the one thing I think they should have mentioned was the show became a success due to Adrian’s talent, it wasn’t “handed” to him. He mentions the chemistry of the Cast which was palpable, but he carried the show, and the show isn’t successful if it isn’t worth watching, which he was instrumental in by embodying that character so fully. I will admit the show’s writing became repetitive, predictable, and the premise became stale, but he came to work every day anyway, and I’m sure he did it on time and ready to give 💯 either way.

[@shilohmjh7628]

Listening to Adrian makes me think of how the Bible says sin brings pleasure for a season, but in the end it brings death-spiritual death. This applies to us no matter who we are. Choose Christ, even though the path may be hard.

[@mattjones530]

This is great I still binge watch entourage once a year

[@TrollHunterxXx]

I’m in a Entourage binge right now … it’s on HBO Max so I’m enjoying it. Victory!

[@PutSomeDsonThatBlink]

It's the only series that I'd describe as "Feel good". So easily binge-able

[@bubbaballer88]

Still holds up.

[@sanitary103]

I’ve never seen it. Thinking about finally watching it.

[@PutSomeDsonThatBlink]

@@sanitary103 It's very easy watching. Light hearted humour and the plots are never deep or complicated

[@alinaro3955]

I met an Emmy winning actress a few years ago who's whole persona is how nice she is. Everyone who knew who before I met her told me she was nice when I asked them what was she like. Her fellow co-workers, neighbors, friends, everyone would always describe her as nice. Only her husband described her differently. Let's just say he didn't call her nice. I thought he was a jerk for being so "mean" about her. Then I got to know her on an intimate level too and turns out the husband was right not mean. The woman turned out to be a narcissist to her core. Being "nice" was how she got attention. Hollywood actors are great for tv watching but not for real life living. At least now I know.

[@Alicia-vq8jg]

I feel like we can all be really mean especially under stress I’m on the spectrum so like I’m drunk or stressed out I can be horrible

[@richj011]

Can't say her name? It's just your opinion. And if she is that type of person she'd probably agree

[@stop.juststop]

@@richj011Narcissists don’t agree to stuff like that.

[@bellevuepersonaltraining4602]

Based on your interactions with one woman, you're generalizing everyone in that entire industry. WTF kind of take is that. There's statistically as much if not more narcissists in politics, executive level corporate culture, military leadership, and possibly sports. But even in those industries plenty of people are normal functional people.

[@thehardtruth3027]

Can't tell that story without mentioning the actress

[@TheBigD_]

Better Aquaman than Jason Mamoa

[@kubolor1234]

I dunno man

[@MyNameJeff..]

@@kubolor1234Yea man

[@AnnoyedHarmonica-jv5xz]

​@@MyNameJeff..No man

[@licksnkicks1166]

Jordan the perfect interview.! Thank you for the revelations.

[@michaelhartman851]

I believe the hardest thing is to learn to tell people no for the benefit of yourself, it's so easy to go with the program or the flow, the hard part is finding your own way and truly being your own person.

[@marchess286]

I never watched this program. But this is a fascinating interview.

[@heatherchandler1184]

I’m an actress, and worked with awesome leading men and women, just worked with one this weekend, and some meh leads. Adrian is right about it all and I avoid being friends with actors because it’s really a lot about what you can get from them. The industry is a hustle and I keep my connections as business contacts which is no different in the business, but I keep it real about why we are talking. We do a trade, scratch each others backs, but don’t pretend it’s anything else. Some will try to get you to become emotionally invested just to elevate or get work. Even the PAs know better. I have a level narcissism but I’m not willing to hurt people to get what I want. I find it’s just as productive to be upfront with it and have something to help them with in return.

[@TheWalkingDavid]

I’m an actor as well and I found your comment to be refreshing and validating. I’m so glad there are people in the business who have self awareness and don’t feel it necessary to manipulate to get what you want. Just be upfront, and people over time will either learn to respect that directness and self awareness or not.

[@ianmangham4570]

I'm a Astronaut 😮

[@Alfie1970Waterhouse]

No offence intended _ but maybe you haven’t had that level of “success “ yet to be really able to know what you’d become. No child star thinks there gunna end up like Britney Spears. Im putting myself in this too. I’d like to think I’d be humble and sane if all doors opened for me. I just don’t know.

[@01happykat]

Yes, exactly. When I ditched the acting world, nearly all my acting friends ditched me. I was no longer of any value to them. I was talented, and they knew it. But if I was no longer working, I was no longer going to connect them to anything, hence I had no value. I don't miss any of them.

[@franklee1205]

GREAT 😃- Conversation ! - very happy that he found his way , and himself though his success and fortune- as an actor , despite the lack of a strong father figure in his life. I love the ironic blessing that he was able to reconnect with someone who new that he could rise above and eventually see beyond the road blocks of his adolescence..and early childhood misfortunes👍👍 !

[@stellaaniston9774]

I doubt you will ever see this Adrian but the single most important film, you have made in your lifetime is “Good bye World.” Everyone should watch it!

[@ralegade7710]

Nah, Smokejumpers slaps

[@skipper6528]

A.I. small role, terrific film

[@JoJo-xo7lg]

It was crap.

[@skipper6528]

@JoJo-xo7lg what's your favourite film?

[@silveriojohan]

Thank you Jordan, very deep conversations always

[@cindybray3891]

So happy for you Adrian

[@markcounseling]

Never heard of this actor or this show. I feel strangely happy about that.

[@martyes9563]

Absolutely amazing...the guest I never knew I needed to see!

[@ChelseaMiddlebrook]

I absolutely love him. He is so grounded and real ❤

[@paulhornbogen980]

Dr. P Enjoyed this clip with this young actor and how narcissism is explained in entertainment sir. I was fortunate enough thirty years ago to have one helluva mentor in the substance abuse field and clinical applications. Sir, we go through historical periods of substance use and misuse as you know. Keep up the good work.

[@jackb348]

He’s not young. He is 47 or 48,

[@RiseofMasculine]

I lost my Job in 2023 and Started this KZbin channel to move forward in life. Hope I will Make it and Wish me good luck brothers ❤️

[@benfaunce7496]

Good luck and God bless!

[@adriennem3168]

Spam

[@michelleclark9445]

All the best, 🤗🇨🇦🙏

[@xxxxxxxx9488]

Great interview thanks guys god bless.

[@ericscott5895]

Thank you 🙏

[@bobbybrandsteder849]

''Fame doesn't sit comfortably upon anyone shoulders, but there are shoulders upon which it appears not to sit at all'' M. Jagger

[@MyNameJeff..]

What does that even mean?

[@cybermavenstudios]

I have not been into Hollywood output for over a decade. But I always liked Adrian.

[@alexrice1870]

I've always enjoyed his work because he brings authentic air to the scenes. No wonder its because that's his aura.

[@ReptilesXtremeGaming]

ENTOURAGE anyone?

[@lmankj]

Entourage was such a great series…I used to binge watch it on long haul flights.

[@zacke6]

Super cool to hear from this guy!

[@babayega1717]

One of the shows I am not ashamed of having been obsessed with when I was younger. Not surprised we ended up meeting again here of all places.

[@rodbarton4553]

Ask Hollywood why no movies shows about COVID? Should be easy for those that live in a state of lies.

[@kimmonurmi3074]

Wonderful point of view. 💯

[@philanthropicnightmare1206]

??? Bro that would be the most boring movie ever

[@lisal6121]

Where are the writers??? Go write one. You got a point of view.

[@Cindy-es4ob]

There are movies and tv shows that has covid. I watched something and I was surprised but I can't remember what it was I think Glass Onion but I'm not 100% sure.

[@danies3335]

@@kimmonurmi3074😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@pickypoint640]

The real question is. When is Jordan Peterson going to interview Dice?

[@joebloggs3907]

Or Bassem Youssef. The answer is never.

[@sergioestuardocontrerasova4577]

Very interesting, I appreciate that.

[@GutzyCall]

I used to watch the show as a young lad and was always curious about Adrian as he fell off the seen. Great interview.

[@emekaokoroma7517]

Great conversation 👏🏿👏🏿

[@spearshaker7974]

Good news this actor guy may actually be a normal decent human whose humanity survived the void of shadow self known as Hollywood. Hope it’s not an act.

[@spearshaker7974]

@@lisajanene no such thing as bad publicity if u can’t be famous be infamous or something along those lines.

[@lisajanene]

@@spearshaker7974 very fair point.

[@MyNameJeff..]

@@lisajaneneDon’t be so naive dude. I love entourage, I watch it annually. And Adrien seems like a nice guy. But you never know with actors, politicians, anyone. But those two especially.

[@bobbyaxelrod6228]

Entourage was one of my favorite tv shows of all time. Amazing.

[@god563616]

Wow! I Loved him on Drive me Crazy in middle school and other movies! Good to see he is not unhinged like the rest!

[@devinjeffrey275]

Makes total sense!

[@IndianaJake]

It's my mans Vinny Chase!! Entourage for life, I rewatch the whole series multiple times every year it's my favorite show ever

[@CanadaDan]

Totally like his character, Vince, he seems like a real cool dude. Great interview, will have to check out the full interview

[@robertranits9699]

I love Adrian's part in "Marauders". Watched it a few times to fully understand the movie.

[@wofmanpt18]

Saw him in an hotel in LA some years ago! Seemed to be on a date so me and my brothers didn't disturb! Kinda always regretted it, huge fan of Entourage, amazing show

[@bobbib3836]

Us regular folk are sick of celebrities being shoved down our throats. Netflix edited out Kim Kardashian being booed at Tom Brady’s roast. We know the Kardashians are some of the biggest culprits of what Adrian is saying. Netflix should have left it in.

[@buckanderson3520]

The word narcissism comes from the Greek "Narcissus" who was a guy that fell in love with his own image. So you can draw your own conclusions about people who are constantly looking at themselves in the mirror, or are obsessed with their image, or fall in love with someone who looks like them. If you can't marry yourself what's the next best thing?

[@muumarlin1731]

Great interview!

[@chuckymeyerme]

Super cool to see Adrian here

[@conscience333]

Upon seeing this video I thought, 'ooh I want to watch that' but I care so little about actors now that I watched two seconds and thought, man who cares?

[@rl2388]

Am I the only one who recognizes him as Nate in the Devil Wears Prada movie?

[@HappytreeLuis]

I thought he was josh from Jake and Josh on Nickelodeon ages ago.

[@FATIMAPECHI]

Yes!!! And I also remember him from the movie "Drive me Crazy", the Melissa Joan Hart movie from the 90s... 🤣 Both MJH and he appeared on the Britney Spears music video...

[@richj011]

Man I feel old lol

[@SlappyMcSlappster]

Nah that's Vinny Chase

[@MyNameJeff..]

Yes

[@evgeniiastapov354]

Fantastic insights into Hollywood's "soul", thank you!

[@hubertbenke7343]

❤ Love the content, skipped the commercial 😢

[@estelaguidote3658]

Fame and fortune can either make or break a celebrity. Too much privacy may not help the very person of a celebrity. Transparency is how dignity will be built up in order for people to believe and appreciate the actor.

[@ibelieve3111]

Thanks

[@michaelt8680]

Entourage for life. Love that show

[@Abuamina001]

The Prodigal Son. Kudos.

[@shades-of-grey-matter]

I did not see this coming 😮

[@dundundata7603]

Victory!

[@yiyoto]

Siempre me gusto este actor desde que lo conoci en la película las aventuras de Sebastian Cole excelente actor

[@Seanyz]

Jordan, love you man!

[@arelyflores6023]

So tired of most celebrities who try way too hard to seem humble and funny when in reallity they love being praised, they know exactly what to say and even how to move to make people talk about how great they are.

[@jhb1493]

Interesting chat - and lovely Savanarola chairs in the background!

[@misssicily100]

humble and good looking wow

[@FranciscoAlvarado-words]

Wow! My Narcissist when up to the Roof, this are the Best 10 Minutes of my Life, I was able to Prove that I can Control it, Wholesome filling, with yours help Dr. Peterson and Adrian I was able to cross the Line totally Conscious although Biting my Nails. (Great Experience)

[@ThatGuyNorm]

Twitter exposed celebs for who they really are.

[@stoop404]

I used to love Entourage until I moved to LA and was around those types of people. The real Ari was 10x worse than Jeremy’s character

[@cpf2838]

As a huuuuuge fan of Entourage in my 20's, it's great to see Adrian turned out not to be another Hollywood creature. Viva Cristo Rey!

[@admirallily]

I remember thinking it felt like such a change from seeing him in Drive Me Crazy to Love At First Glance.

[@crazycats535]

Lagaurdia high school students have great training. 🎉🎉🎉 integrity.

[@tomkramer8594]

Bedankt

[@martinpedersen2650]

I was realy wondering JP last question to, all seems fun.

[@therealbs2000]

Hello again

[@gingervytis]

Proud to say I have no idea who this guy is, nor what his show is.

[@Kets13Graff]

Medellín!

[@ranojutro426]

I really never understood those people that want to be famous, ruch, seen in social media....

[@SonofSolomon]

Self adulation is a drug.

[@bobnomm]

I always liked this dude

[@chris_pakula]

VINNNEEEEEEE!! LONG TIME NO SEE, I LOVED YOU IN MEDELLÍN, GREAT ACTING!!!

[@robertkistler6621]

Vinny on Peterson Awesome

[@parmenides2576]

I saw Vinny at a flower child downtown Austin and he was waiting at the pick up line like anyone else. He was so unassuming that when he left the guy next to me whispered to me “was that Vinny chase?” Cool guy

[@JJ-mi1fr]

Dear Mr. Peterson, could you please produce a video discussing The neuroscience of speaking in tongues? This topic holds considerable significance in exploring evidence for the existence of God.

[@creinicke1000]

I've loved this young actor in almost everything he's done.. I'm happy to see he's actually a good decent guy. I've liked other actors because they can act.. But then they behave badly and open their mouths and spew garbage.. so I tend to not want to watch them again.

[@gideonsikk8733]

TO survive LA in the party scene is no joke . Can spin ur head .. lizards 🦎

[@desigirlBea]

Jordon Love the tie

[@LeviathantheMighty]

I wanted to hear his answer.

[@EdwardNeblett]

I pray Jordan that you will see this. Must read book by Dc Robertsson " the first will be last" a biblical perspective on narcissism. I love brother and my prayers are with you 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@hamzariazuddin424]

im am on the complete opposite side of the political debate with Jordan. and ive found his tone and level of soundness has declined over the years but these conversations are where he is best. I used to listen to his lectures on Dostoyevsky and found them fascinating. And they still are. I feel his political commentary has taken over in recent years which is a shame as the 1-1 and psychological is much more interesting to me - Thats his main field. He should focus in on that as it can relate to any audience.

[@infiniteawareness69]

Lol this guy came into a juice bar I worked at back in the day. I recognized him and asked for his name for his drink order lol . And he looked at me dumbfounded “ how dare you not know who I am ?!“ look .