The Curious Case of Fallout's Last President

[@EpicNate]

Get Immersed in V Rising NOW on PC! store.steampowered.com/app/1604030/V_Rising/?TheEpicNate315 And Wishlist on PlayStation Wishlist on PlayStation: playstation.com/games/v-rising/ Some notes- -The 'Di' letter in Fallout 76 was recently reinstated to contain the accurate faded signature. -An additional letter in the Prime Minister's cabin suggests the date of his meeting with POTUS was November 16th, though no year was provided. (Persuade) What do you think about this mystery?

[@patrickiamonfire965]

You casually used sus.

[@matthimfsmfs7194]

Hey, a game sponsor that actually seems cool 🫵

[@ModernOddity728]

My theory with that convoy is the president (or body double possibly?) got a warning that nuclear bombs were on the way and got an emergency airlift with just enough room to fit everyone but the poor limousine driver.

[@duphasdan]

I bet the body near the limousine is the newly elected president Di, the one impeached for jaywalking and hiding for months probably to hide from threats. And the previous president and Enclave member being Bagman still giving orders like he is still president. The newspaper thinking the president is at the oil rig is probably due to members of the Enclave considering and treating the former president as the real president, which is why he was able to give orders despite Di being the elected president. The Enclave are the type to subvert the whole government considering their past actions.

[@mysfeori6510]

can you please make a starfield 10 evil choices video, your videos for f4 and skyrim are the main reason i got so invested in those games

[@lexus8018]

Fun fact: During development Bethesda kept the making of the white house on the back burner so long that when they were approaching release they realized the white house was still not completed. There wasn't time to make a full building/interior so they just made it a crater

[@kiezer21]

I think it works better that way tbh

[@TF2CrunchyFrog]

That works. nice symbolism.

[@alexbrown9622]

It’s very appropriate but I wish we’d have the lore that would have inevitably been found inside

[@lGipsyDanger]

​@alexbrown9622 I'd have loved a half destroyed bunker there or under the pentagon

[@Bawgle]

tbf why *wouldnt* Vault Tec drop it there

[@miniwheat7873]

Hey nate hows it going, guys here.

[@BushidoBanks]

😅😅😅

[@EpicNate]

I'm so sleepy

[@apocalypticpioneers2116]

@@EpicNate Hi so sleepy, I'm dad

[@Toddgarvey]

@@EpicNateeepy

[@azuremystwow603]

@@EpicNateget some rest buddy 🎉

[@dustinfreeman4189]

My personal theory is that Zeus was the final American president, and Bagman was the Enclave’s chosen president. So there were two presidents, and the Enclave orchestrated the assassination to remove the opposition/avoid a potential power struggle. They wanted their chosen President to be solely in power.

[@finalfantasymad]

Yep this is my takeaway as well. My only further takeaway is that Bagman was probably someone very high in power in the standard government as well. I think he is likely the VP and as you said chosen leader of the Enclave. The president being killed would also give him nuclear authority and make him both the Enclave and American President upon his successful Coup which would tie up that potential loose end. His name also suggests he "brings the money" as "Bagman". So he is ether a paid off corrupt official or a very powerful businessman who also has political power.

[@Seventh_Bean]

Isn't that basically confirmed? The Enclave slowly took hold of the U.S. Government in the years leading up to 2077.

[@ranondo92]

The secretary of the treasury would be bag man and Zeus would be the president

[@matti.8465]

But people like Eddie Winter found out about the bombs ahead of time because of contacts. There's no way the actual president would have been completely clueless.

[@eeyun5279]

The VP never got where he was going though, according to the messages in whitesprings. Makes me consider him

[@cyprusmiraque]

"Hey devs, what can you tell us about this bunker we found?" "You WHAT?!?"

[@PhillyCh3zSt3ak]

With the existence of people like Josh from "Let's Game it Out" and other dataminers, you'd think they wouldn't include it right away and would be going through it with a fine toothed comb to make sure things that shouldn't be there weren't there.

[@Ginamy72]

@@PhillyCh3zSt3akI realize that most of these “higher ups” aren’t as smart as we think they are

[@apathybronson]

​@@PhillyCh3zSt3ak considering the working conditions in the videogame industry I'm pretty sure the people high up that have time to think about the media don't really consume any of their own and the people that do are too busy with crunch to tell their bosses what putting in the bunker in early will lead to

[@havcola6983]

@@PhillyCh3zSt3ak Meh, I think you're overestimating how much the designers themselves worry about releasing small potential spoilers, especially into a beta-testing server. In games where character first reveals etc are a commodity that's literally sold to media outlets then yes, leaking that sort of thing has potentially dire financial consequences so everyone's sort of walking on eggshells with that sort of thing. But in this case it arguably just generated some free pr with no downside.

[@KillySins]

​@@PhillyCh3zSt3akfirst time anyone has ever mentioned that channel it was my favorite when I was younger

[@captainweekend5276]

The British Prime Minister being at Rapidan Camp when the bombs fell is a pretty major revelation since it implies quite a few things. First, that the UK at this point had not devolved into anarchy as a result of the resource wars, and was a functioning nation, perhaps even a regional or global power. Second, that it's possible that pre-war the Enclave were looking to recruit politicians from other nations into the organisation, perhaps giving the Enclave global ambitions post-war, the reconquering of America being only the first step towards global domination.

[@guytech7310]

Perhaps a reference to the Lord Rothchild than the PM of UK.

[@recurvestickerdragon]

I have a feeling the president was never even going to meet him there, and it was all just bait

[@thebrittaniondragon6183]

If the UK was still a major power and assuming that both the UK and Canada still have the monarchy wouldn't the UK be super angry at the US annexation of Canada could they realistically do anything about it? No, additionally the implication that the UK is a sovran entity outside the European Commonwealth could imply that Brexit is cannon in the fallout universe

[@martianscienceenthusiast]

​@@thebrittaniondragon6183 Actually, the fallout 1 intro states *"the European Commonwealth would dissolve into quarreling, bickering nation-states, bent on controlling the last remaining resources on Earth."* So it's possible the UK was part of the EC until the end, however by 2077 the EC has disbanded and thus would be back to individual sovereign entities

[@captainweekend5276]

@@thebrittaniondragon6183 I don't see why the UK would be especially upset compared to any other nation by the annexation of Canada, the monarch's position as head of state is purely ceremonial in Canada, it's not the same as it is in Britain where the Prime Minister draws his legitimacy from the monarch, the Canadian PM doesn't have to ask the monarch to establish or dissolve parliament. Also by 2077 I imagine most international organisations such as the Commonwealth of Nations would have dissolved.

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

The only president I recognize is John Henry Eden, President of the Enclave, President of America, President of your Hearts.

[@victorochoa3662]

God bless America.. And no one else.

[@Spoopball]

I love the radio message about how he might have not been voted into office, and his response was "trust me bro"

[@GermanTankAce2]

God Bless

[@thecosmicentity5597]

Too bad he's a dirty machine

[@Tyler-f00k1n]

No you're wrong. President Dave is the President of my Heart.

[@2468doo]

Love the ‘placeholder - do not use’ image 😂

[@H.Perevell]

It is great.

[@seanmcelroy6222]

This comment for number 1. let's send it to the top!

[@TheRabidPanda]

I actually missed the information because the picture distracted me.

[@thatgirlfromthecraft]

it’s the cutest damn doodle 10/10

[@IanBPPK]

It better stay 😂

[@uninspiredgaming9963]

The convoy, the briefcase, the codename "Zeus"; that all makes me think he's carrying the Nuclear Football.

[@ltdbob]

Highly doubt they would transport the nuclear football in just a limo.

[@n_d_wil]

I think Zeus was pres and bagman was vp?

[@elysiankentarchy1531]

​@ltdbob the limo had a military escort and is simply carried by a White House aide. Which is more than can be said about the time President Clinton left the aide holding the football behind at a NATO summit and the aide had to walk back to the White House. Or the time President Ford's aides lost the nuclear football at a summit in Paris. Or the time Clinton lost the codes to use the nuclear football for months.

[@twistedyogert]

​@@elysiankentarchy1531 How did that happen? Aren't the codes normally inside the football anyway?

[@kingofhearts3185]

​@@twistedyogert That's the nuclear biscuit. It's a different item.

[@KOSMOS1701A]

if fallout 3 had an equivalent of the Wild Wasteland perk, a glowing one in the white house remains named "Mr. President" would have been just beautiful.

[@woddlyoats]

Funny thing about that is that they completely forgot to make the white house and it was 1 week away from shipping so they just made the white house a hole in the ground

[@TheSorrel]

What I find interesting about this is that it shows that the Enclave wasn't this omnipotent force that played everyone like a damn fiddle. People where onto them, to the point that they might have had to set their plans into motion prematurely or didn't have enough time to prepair completely. Maybe the people investigating the Enclave before the bombs fell, while failing in the short term, actually lead to the Enclaves downfall some hundreads years later.

[@williamfoekema4187]

funny how the skeleton of "zeus" is missing its head and a soldier was still trying to give him a stimpak, that's some grim fallout humor for ya

[@kyokyodisaster4842]

"A stem will fix it! I'm not in denial!!!" - that soldier clearly in over his / her head.

[@Futureguitarist15]

I don't think they'd intentionally go this dark but... assassination... missing head... someone trying to fix the missing head...

[@BinkDeadpool]

JFK reference maybe?

[@aviatorengineer3491]

The sniper could have only wounded the target at first and then made a follow-up shot after the guy with the stimpak was taken care of, perhaps.

[@rearcangeli]

@@BinkDeadpool my thoughts exactly

[@rabidwallaby84]

A popular codename for the Whitehouse is Olympus...where Zeus and the other gods lived. I think it's a safe bet that they're alluding to Zeus being the President and Bagman tasked Mr Osborne with taking him out.

[@swiftfated]

Especially with the black briefcase next to his skeleton. Presidents usually have the nuclear briefcase handcuffed to their wrist in war tv shows

[@rowan7149]

@@swiftfated Not handcuffed. It’s carried by an aide who is always nearby at all times.

[@n_d_wil]

I think Zeus was pres and bagman was vp?

[@elysiankentarchy1531]

Edit: I take it back, the Vice President is also given a nuclear football and biscuit, to be used if something happens to the President. So it is possible VP Bagman had the President shot and then had to use the nukes. But we haven't received much of any indication before now of that and that is an extremely small window. The problem with that is that Bagman sends the launch orders and codes, something he would need both the nuclear football and the nuclear biscuit for. And the biscuit is kept on the President's person at all times. Of course that is presuming it is the actual nuclear football and not a fake that was swapped in by Bagman. But even then the executive order would be coming from the president, not the VP and the terminals would be giving the President's name not the VP's.

[@omegavalwin]

the president is at control station enclave it cant be him.

[@hydrixs6996]

"Placeholder, DO NOT USE" *proceeds to use in malice*

[@jcraigie]

In what way was he malicious?

[@OktoberVanderslice]

@@jcraigie psst... It's a joke

[@jcraigie]

@@OktoberVanderslice nah, jokes are funny.

[@Scuglat-enjoyer]

Not necessarily, your life is a joke and it's just mainly really sad​ @jcraigie

[@jcraigie]

@@Scuglat-enjoyer LMAO. Do you have an answer for my original question? You're boring otherwise.

[@gagewarner6502]

I'd love to watch Nate play through the games, even on an easy difficulty, and just explain the lore as he encounters it, discovers new things, and goes over connections. Even if Nate then still made these videos to go in depth over new details because in the moment you can only recall so much

[@kaaaputnik]

I've gotta say, I'm happy for you man, it's really refreshing to hear you having so much fun with this one. From your voiceover alone it's audible you're having a blast

[@betheguy_posts]

Putting an Enclave base in Norfolk (spesifically the Norfolk Naval Base) makes a lot of sense considering how military-centric Norfolk is in real life. Driving around while having a military drone flying overhead watching for traffic violations every day was a surreal experience that took some getting used to.

[@shaunt.r.w7902]

the entire east of coast of Virginia, especially closer to the south near the mouth of the Chesapeake bay would be a perfect spot for a fallout game. NASA, Langley, the naval weapons station, the Atlantic fleet headquarters, Oceania, old Yorktown, the battlefield, the shipyard. it is one of the most defended and staffed areas of the United states, and would definitely be a perfect fallout location.

[@guytech7310]

Mount Weather makes more sense

[@shaunt.r.w7902]

@@guytech7310 mount weather is a single isolated broadcasting station, Norfolk and the surrounding townships are full of military bases from all different branches.

[@guytech7310]

@@shaunt.r.w7902 fort belvoir, Washington's homestead in Mount vernon. Jamestown. Lots of potential sites for another game.

[@guytech7310]

@@shaunt.r.w7902 I believe there is much more to Mt weather than a simple telecom site From OSINT: "The Mount Weather Special Facility is a Continuity of Government (COG) facility operated by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). The 200,000 square foot facility also houses FEMA’s National Emergency Coordinating Center. " "Army Corps of Engineers completed the “Area B” underground complex in 1958-1959. Total construction costs, adjusted for inflation, are estimated to have exceeded $1 billion. " "lthough the facility is designed to accomodate several thousand people (with sleeping cots for 2,000), only the President, the Cabinet, and Supreme Court are provided private sleeping quarters." "The underground bunker includes a hospital, crematorium, dining and recreation areas, sleeping quarters, reservoirs of drinking and cooling water, an emergency power plant, and a radio and television studio which is part of the Emergency Braodcasting System. A series of side-tunnels accomodate a total of 20 office buildings, some of which are three stories tall. " Mt Weather is also between WV and Camp Rapidian.

[@PrimevalRedDragon10]

I have a theory that Bagman is actually the Vice President. He probably acted as the president’s (Zeus) bagman receiving and distributing the illicit funds for the Enclave project hence the code name. This might have caused him to be in closer contact with other Enclave members than the president which allowed him to seamlessly take command when he ordered for the sniper to take out Zeus leaving him in charge regardless because of chain of command. I also find it interesting that the VP is the only member to have a “message sent” notification for the early warning system.

[@Cthulhuvong]

This is my view. Bagman can be slang for a corrupt politician who takes bribes, such as one working with the Enclave. Zeus would more than likely be the President (White House has been codenamed Olympus by presidential security). My theory is the President knew nothing about the Enclave, and was a patsy while VP was the true power broker.

[@erickrasniewski567]

​@Cthulhuvong or in classic Enclave fashion the VP turned on thr President because he wanted power or they disagreed about something remember Autumn vs Eden in the Capital Wasteland

[@tomas_iss7469]

@@Cthulhuvongwait isn’t this all like Zootopia’s plot

[@brianm.595]

Did you ever talk to the vice president in fallout 2? His stat sheet must have featured 1 intelligence. 😂 I dont think he was capable of anything besides walking and breathing. Look up a video of his conversations with the chosen one.

[@rock27729]

@@brianm.595 fallout 2 is in 2241

[@spencerfidelis]

"Harold Osborne" ...Harvey Oswald... Zeus was the big pres, I'm sold

[@TankHammer]

Yeah, my immediate thought too. It would be a hell of a lore twist!

[@Moomoo254]

Bumping in case this turns out to be true

[@robertferron4134]

Zeus huh.. I guess Olympus has fallen

[@michaelostergren3516]

Now that you say that, it absolutely must be what is being referenced.

[@MrHorsey420]

Harold was a descendant of ozzy

[@ianmackay2976]

I think PR_002 is closer to a "Presidential Retreat 002" then "Poseidon Rig 002". I mean I think they designate the same place, the first one just sounds more official.

[@clairekholin6935]

Interesting fact, the 2 term limit was only imposed post WW2, so it is entirely possible that in fallout the presidents could have longer terms.

[@wunnup3229]

0:47 The identity of Fallout's final American President is a mystery that has baffled every Man and Woah-Man in the wasteland.

[@Despondencymusic]

😂😂

[@doobzsalam1847]

Men of Wo

[@EdgarRazorlip]

Woe man

[@sierra1513]

Goddamn Wömen

[@kozad86]

Even the Yes Man is baffled.

[@BinkDeadpool]

Anyone else notice Todd staring at us at parts of the video? Stella from Honest Hearts: "God damn creepy."

[@christiansmith4676]

I just commented wondering if anyone noticed 😂😂

[@FireFox64000000]

I love the fact that they straight up added in something they weren't supposed to then went "whoopsie Daisy"

[@kozad86]

Probably work they've done for another upcoming update or cut content. Hopefully we'll get it along with the rest of the Whitesprings bunker for some Modus DLC. 🙏🏼

[@thehucklebillyfenn]

I think that Bagman is an actual name just because the name “Di BAGman” sounds like something Fallout devs would name a politician. 😂

[@Levacque]

I assume it's wordplay on a few levels. In British slang, a Bagman is the runner who carries an illicit purchase from the supplier to the buyer. But following from that, we have a more American phrase, "caught holding the bag." So if the last politician chosen by the Enclave is left with a really shitty job, I think either figurative use of the term works well.

[@LeSwaw]

The Rapidan Camp bunker might just a be a further future update than skyline valley and some devs might have just wanted to work on it early, who knows maybe we’ll get a better Enclave quest line

[@youremaidenless4452]

Was worried about how to spend my chemo treatment, but now I’m glad I can spend it watching the new Nate video distraction free 😭🙏🏻💖

[@EpicNate]

Wish you well, love the avatar ❤️

[@VaporeonEnjoyer1]

Tell the nurse your nauseous, tell them Phenergan is the only thing that works for you, and have them push it through your port. Then you can sleep through it.

[@justindoucette9242]

I’m proud of you!

[@katrose5179]

@@VaporeonEnjoyer1Jesus don’t tell them that. Phenagran allergic reactions are severe. I have it. Unless you KNOW person is okay with the med, telling them to push it could kill them.

[@VaporeonEnjoyer1]

@@katrose5179 If your on chemo, you know if you have that allergy because the zofran they start with doesn't do anything to help.

[@EtherRich23]

I like to think that ‘Bagman’ was the vice president, and he had called out a hit on the president (Zeus). Sadly, Harry Osborne messed up and killed Bagman by mistake (the skeleton with the bag…). That would explain why messages were sent to the president and VP, but there’s no confirmation the VP had received his (he was dead) Perhaps, as the VP rushed to safety while the bombs fell, he had been hit in the chest by Osborne’s first shot. While the soldier got the med-kit, the VP desperately launched nukes at China, only for Osborne’s second attempt to be a head shot

[@guytech7310]

Seems to point to Zeus was VP as the president made it to PR. the message to VP was never acknowledged.

[@Pandaman735]

Harold Osborne: “You know, I’m something of a patriot myself.”

[@lucyinchat]

That’s a quote from Norman Osborne, Harold Osborne is his son.

[@evocati_]

Just a note: In Fallout: New Vegas the nuclear launch authorization in Hopeville is also registered to “Bagman.”

[@petrogradadministration2310]

Nate, there’s actually another mentioning of bag man. It’s in the fallout lonesome road DLC mentioned in the hope silo middle codes.

[@shai5651]

It's the same exact message as the one in Fallout 3

[@Hangman1313]

50:20 You mention that the President and VP aren't properly addressed in the entry on screen but it definitely shows the President got the message and proceeded to PR_002 but that it was the Vice President whose message was never confirmed.

[@grelca]

lol right? “V Pres” is pretty clearly vice president and not a second message to the president.

[@arklainquirk]

yeah, it clearly says "Pres" and "V Pres" I had to rewatch that part a few times trying to figure out where it said Pres a 2nd time until I figured it out.

[@LeDingueDeJeuxVideos]

Exactly, and saying that it might be the vice president but probably not because he's "not properly addressed"? When all other positions are also not in full? What does "V" mean in his mind? Is he high?

[@mrasco317]

27:52 why hello there Todd, you don't have to stare so menacingly ya know.

[@yuki3034]

😂😂😂

[@notreallydaedalus]

I can feel him judging me

[@humpythewarlock]

I love the placeholder mr gutsy image

[@krim7]

I really love how you break & laugh at the content, and also get really excited by the reveals too. It is a blast to listen to as I explore Appalachia for the first time!

[@thenewummy8417]

I can't seem to get enough of these Fallout videos. They're so captivating and immersive, like stepping into a whole new world. The attention to detail and the storytelling in this franchise are just incredible. I could spend hours watching these videos and still not get tired of it. It's like falling in love with a game all over again, every time!\

[@Zal0vid]

This tells me that we're getting an Enclave quest line in 76.

[@ComradeMercy]

There already is the enclave quest line?

[@GamingYoshi64]

​@@ComradeMercylike a revamped one not the base game story one

[@wh1pqueen]

Ran into my neighbor and they mentioned the new fallout show, and i was like, yeah but have you seen the epic Nate videos on KZbin and we both went "how's it going guys Nate here" at the same time 😂 found another fan in the wild!

[@Alibium]

President Nate? And this is… your presidential speech? Sign me up

[@Mavomatic]

27:27 That's an impressive artistic rendition of a Mr. Gutsy

[@niratcire]

It looks like the Enclave was using the order of succession to stage a coup, but still have a legitimate rule. An order to take out Zeus, Zeus being the head of the Greek pantheon most like was the president. The VP not receiving the early warning. Members of Congress and certain cabinet members being removed from the early warning. Assuming the current succession order applies, Bagman is either the Secretary of the Treasury (above Sec of Def and Att Gen), or Secretary of the Interior (below Sec of Def and Att Gen, but above Sec of Agriculture).

[@Matt-md5yt]

glad you talked about this topic

[@DHurd513]

Truly Epic Nate, got a whole hour of distraction from work THANK YOU!

[@uninspiredgaming9963]

Oh shoot, the oil rig also has giant statue heads. Could it possibly tie into the greater lovecraftian mystery?

[@uninspiredgaming9963]

Oh he actually brought it up. That's what I get for commenting 10 minutes into the hour long video...

[@elijahfriesen8111]

I love how in the games, most of the buildings that have the statues and the surrounding buildings too are granted protection from the bombs that caused the destruction

[@tanburanbu]

Survivor basis. You simply wouldn't see the destroyed ones.​@@elijahfriesen8111

[@supervilnismaris]

They just like some good head ;) xD

[@glprime2814]

On the identity of either "Bagman" or "Zeus", based on the latter's large security and the mention of a briefcase, I believe one of them is the person charged with guarding the codes for the nuclear missiles. I remember a couple of cartoons, movies, comic book stories, and novels labeling this person as "Zeus". Now two reasons I have to doubt this, however, is 1: "Zeus" has been given as a codename for The President himself, as well as other powerful individuals. 2: The last piece of "evidence" is the lack of mentioning the briefcase being handcuffed to his wrist, which is required at all times. Now my reason for also suspecting "Bagman" is mainly due to some media having given said codename to the carrier, as well. My reason for doubting him though is due to not having mentions of a security detail that would be usually be around someone of such importance. Now both of these men being the carrier is based solely on circumstantial evidence from Hollywood and not any factual real world evidence, but considering FO is a videogame universe, real world evidence doesn't always apply. All this said, really enjoyed the video, Nate. 8/10

[@MatrixTheKitty]

"why were there two presidential alarm signals put out???" meanwhile the graphic clearly shows "Pres" and "V Pres"

[@karmasjustice1432]

I'm slightly inclined to believe that Zues May have been Fallout's Sec Def. Especially if he wasn't replaced as the Enclave was starting to take over. The SecDef being the highest in the chain of command (second to only the Commander in Chief) would likely be one of the first people Armed Forces Survivors would rally behind if they did not have contact with the President and it would make sense to take him out so that any Armed Forces Survivors would fall in with the Enclave or whoever was deemed "in charge"? Of course now we know that didn't quite work out as a portion of the survivors created the BOS.

[@karmasjustice1432]

Next theory Video? WHO is Zeus?

[@omegavalwin]

is either him or The vice president

[@lostbutfreesoul]

@@omegavalwin Why did the V. President not reply?

[@omegavalwin]

@@lostbutfreesoul cuz they were after him. clearly he could not trust them

[@MrHolodoc]

@@lostbutfreesoul Uh-- cuz he got his Brains blown out by a Sniper and the Enclave didn't trust him?

[@Jerga27]

Thank you Nate, its clear how hard you and everyone worked on this one. I've always felt like the pre-war government was like a cross between a snake eating its own tail and a hydra. It's why the Enclave can keep going even after we kill the current "leader." They're always scheming and shifting the hierarchy, and you never know if you're really finishing the job or just making it easier for someone else to take their turn on the throne

[@kiritotheabridgedgod4178]

Clearly not that hard, if they don't read the actual text, to see that *it is clearly marked that the "No confirmation" warning message was sent to the vice president* and then proceeds to make a completely incorrect speculation, predicated on not actually reading the terminal.

[@TradePrinceNodnarb]

You are a god sent gift if information. Working on a fallout rpg campaign set in Kentucky, and i appreciate all the work you guys do and upload

[@TKsMantis]

Another great video, brother! This is so interesting and I had never even thought about it that much. Thank you for the hard work!

[@EpicNate]

Thanks Mantis-man!!!

[@thomasfrye6335]

Even before watching this, I remembered the bit from the Boston Bugle about the President disappearing, supposedly to an oil rig codenamed Command Station Enclave. Not to the fallout 4 but yet, but I think it’ll be there

[@thatonepersonwhoair-dropsy268]

I thought it was gonna be silent for a second at the start 😭

[@kittensoundwave3480]

HEY NATE Just got here, I've rewatched all of your videos, Oxhorn's, and Synonymous'. Both all of the Elder Scrolls and Fallout videos. All the games. I listen to them as a comfort to eb my anxiety, it gives me something to focus on if my mind wanders. Having a new video to hear is great, and I'm happy the show is bringing more videos like this from you and the others. I will say, I didn't hear your background music at first and got a little sad, but then I heard it, just really quiet haha. Once again another great video!

[@docjessmonster]

@TheEpicNate315 I just want to say thank you for getting me through the pandemic and through my classes all these years. I graduate medical school this month, and through all the stress, I had your videos to watch when I went to bed. As long as you keep making videos, I’ll keep watching them. I know I’ll need to sit back and relax at the end of the day during residency! Thanks again so much!

[@johnlaux6962]

Disappointing final plot twist: the last president was actually just a guy named George Bagman

[@valandres]

My theory: Zeus was the current president. Bagman was either a former president or perhaps the Vice President. The way that the guy on the tower, when questioned, immediately defended his patriotism implies that he wasn't in fact a patriot, and was either a chinese agent or some insurgent placed to take out Zeus so that Bagman could take over. The black suitcase was probably the football and upon Zeus' death, control of the nukes fell to Bagman. It wouldn't be a stretch to say that the Enclave was already preparing for life after the war, and felt that the current president was no longer needed after his usefulness expired (using government funds to lay the groundwork of the organization).

[@shanepye7078]

Fallout Canada would be interesting. Think of all the vicious animals - moose, bears, wolves, wolverines, Canadian geese, geese wake up every day and choose violence. Imagine an irradiated mutated Canadian goose.

[@铭记历史拥抱未来]

Canadian ghouls perhaps?

[@kieramaccourt8717]

Mutated Canadian Geese are an absolutely horrifying thought! Those things are vicious enough already!

[@pixelgamer4985]

Snowy fallout game sounds great

[@dootmarine1140]

@@铭记历史拥抱未来 "Oh you smoothskins dn't have much issues with radiaton eh"

[@gimzod76]

The fallout hearts of iron 4 mod just added in the Canadian territories

[@Freskabri]

Fantastic video as always! Love watching your longer stuff, as it gives me something to listen to and think about while I'm working on my art. I've never been a huge Fallout guy (at least, never been interested in actually playing the games), but it's very fun to hear the lore and theories you and others come up with. As for thoughts... I assumed the note left for the PM was supposed to allude to the president arriving late and Harry's task being aimed at him! Perhaps the note was still there because it was set out on the same day he was supposed to arrive... and then he never did. That's just my thoughts on it anyway. Very excited to see where this goes!

[@matthewfaubel8702]

You probably hear this a lot, but you have a very soothing voice, and you are only one of three Bethesda Game KZbins that I can listen and fall asleep to.

[@PhoenicopterusR]

The guy asking a dev about an area he had to glitch into has some serious "asking the teacher if there's homework" energy. Like, buddy, what did you think was going to happen?

[@NotReal-b9z]

20:03 Fun fact, the nuclear launch codes for the USA in our own timeline was actually 00000000000 until 1979ish

[@UpperDarbyDetailing]

New EpicNate?! This just became a good day.

[@willmoore6166]

I miss mitten squad, your videos always remind me of his. These two got me into fallout

[@notreallydaedalus]

Been feeling nostalgic for mittensquad lately... I'm doing a playthrough of FO4 named Paul in his honor.

[@FlamesofJagger]

Always good to see a new EpicNate video

[@jerryswrld]

you’re the best Nate !!! i wish you would put out videos more often but i understand how much hard work you put into these things so thanks man!!!!

[@helljumper5601]

54:05 Holy shit yes. I’ve been WAITING to see anything about the US Navy in the Fallout games. Having an Enclave presence at Naval Station Norfolk makes PERFECT sense. It allows easy access to the Atlantic Ocean without having to build all sorts of new infrastructure, and any ships that survive the Great War would likely have been at Norfolk. I’m taking this to mean Bethesda has some sort of plans for the Norfolk/Hampton/Newport News area (maybe just some tidbits, maybe something more major that we can look at).

[@Mascifin]

The summit of political and industrial leaders mentioned in the letter to the governor may have been shown in part in the show's season 1 finale.

[@brdg00d1ng]

I was thinking that the mystery man watching over the meeting was the leader of the Enclave/current US President

[@nicholasbrown668]

​@@brdg00d1ngsame, Vault Tec and the Enclave were intertwined, it would make sense for an Enclave agent to influence them

[@ThePretentious1]

I know it’s a way off, but my thinking is that this content is meant for release to coincide with season 2..

[@mommiesaurus]

An hour of Nate. Perfection. My husband may be right. Your videos are my dirty secret.

[@35Cyt]

Nate for President of the Wasteland!

[@thespalek1]

Zeus should be the president himself, as the white house is often called olympus, plus the assassinated guy is carrying the nuclear football. Bagman then could be Eckhart luring the president into a trap.

[@FlaminTubbyToast]

I don’t know if anyone mentioned this yet, but there is one terminal in the slocum joes bunker that you run through with the railroad. It confirms that the us didn’t strike first

[@serenitysfirefly]

45:34 Harry Osborn? That's gotta be a Spider-Man reference. 😂

[@garrethb6261]

I honestly think it's a reference to Lee Harvey Oswald, the guy who killed JFK.

[@TheSoulDivided]

That was my first thought too, but I'm not sure what exactly it would be referencing, other than the two having the same name

[@roosterboy9348]

34:00 honestly the TV show's idea of (TV SPOILERS STOP READING) vault-tec shooting first is more interesting than China shooting over FEV, IMO. It also fixes the plothole of "why does nobody rebuild, why is everyone in crappy shacks? because vault-tec nukes them to have a monopoly on the future.

[@EtherRich23]

Given the connection between the faces on all the buildings and the Lovecraftian conspiracies, my theory is that Vault-tec learnt that Dunwich Borers were trying to turn the whole of the US into a replica of the cities that once served the eldritch horrors. Vault-tec dropped the bombs to stop them. The stuff in the TV show is just them looking for potential backers without giving away what they know

[@Dog-bc1lz]

why is todd looking at me like that

[@supervilnismaris]

He be watching for the perfect time to activate "the feature"

[@Stumme-40203]

Just keeping an eye on you. Just in case. 😀

[@sean1910]

with the white house often referred to as olympus and Zeus being the target i’m pretty sure Zeus is the president and maybe he did sum to get on the Enclaves bad side so “Bagman” a top ranking enclave leader or member ordered a hit on Zeus and judging by the briefcase Zues had im guessing he had the Nuclear Football. Perhaps the boston bugle thought he was at the Oil Rig due to faulty or outdated information

[@libra3655]

I think Zeus was the VP. The no confirmation would likely mean he didn't get a chance to acknowledge where he would head to after the bombs fell

[@Jomit427]

Getting older means less and less people realize the reference to Dan Quale screwing up at a spelling bee.

[@GamerBlock_]

BABE WAKE UP TheEpicNate315 uploaded!

[@SebasTian58323]

Oh man, this is a great surprise. Here's hoping we get a video covering the theory that the sole survivor is a synth at some point!

[@YuhNinja]

Devs already says it's not true

[@SebasTian58323]

​@@YuhNinjawhere? I haven't been able to find anything official on it, only fan theories discussing it. And even if the devs did say that, I'd still want a video discussing the theory from him, just for the fun of the theory itself

[@brdg00d1ng]

Synths were made from the sole survivors DNA though. Father couldn’t have created the synths without having a biological father. Even if the player was a synth, they would be modeled after a real prewar human who once lived and wouldn’t really change anything

[@aDryBonesProduction]

Why would the Sole Survivor be called the back up for Shaun’s role (Institute uses the not irradiated DNA to make 3rd gen synths), if the Sole Survivor was not only a synth but a 3rd gen that relies on Shaun’s DNA? Why doesn’t any institute records or personnel say, oh hey, your that synth we put in the crypod and we made in Father’s (Shaun’s) father’s appearance? Conversely why does everyone act like they are meeting you for the first time and treated the Sole Survivor like a human and not a machine at the Institute the Sole Survivor was a synth? Why does Shaun tell you that he unfroze the Sole Survivor and wanted to see how the Sole Survivor did in the wasteland and if they can find him, if the sole survivor was a synth that is made from his DNA and made in the institute?

[@PunknPixels]

It has been repeatedly confirmed the PC is not a synth in the game's cannon. You can headcannon to be whatever you'd like.

[@arkdelta637]

Door glitches have been a well known and understood thing in 76 for like 5 years. They let that happen on purpose.

[@lucanut2116]

The fact that the president was travelling to West Virginia, potentially on the day the bombs fell and due to arrive at 4PM when the bombs fell around 9-10AM suggests he may have been mid transit meaning he could be at another location like NORAD

[@deconyus3412]

First off: The President's codename being Bagman like he's heisting the Presidency from the WH to the Enclave is perfect. Secondly: At this point I'd just call him President Bagman. If the Enclave's President's name was a dick joke than the last US President's name being a balls joke is fitting.

[@TheSpookiestgoose]

Spoiler alert, it’s Joe Biden

[@Jonathansequichie]

How did you find out

[@dutchvanderlinde5004]

He lives forever 😂

[@davidoneill7554]

Why you lobbin nukes? C-c’mon man!

[@tyler5914]

Bug off. Keep your grossly ignorant political ideology out this comment section. I am here to escape that stuff. You are what we call a party killer.

[@tyler5914]

@hittinitsidways is 💩

[@AmazedBunion]

love that they impeached a president for jaywalking and in real life we have a former president indicted for 91 felonies lolol.

[@kp63]

This is perfect because the whole point of the scenario was that the ruling government staged a coup by prosecuting their opposition for something as innocuous as jaywalking. Also hammering the point that you can "indict a ham sandwich" if you have control of the justice system. The fictional story perfectly illustrates the Democrats attempts to jail their political opponents to protect their power. Your response to this is to side with the people doing the prosecutions.

[@zeroknight1311]

Hey Nate, I had realized something quite interesting about Fallout 76's Mothman. Namely why the variants of the Mothman exists and how both the Visitor Corpse and the Interloper are connected. Prior to The Wild Wastelanders update, you can find more than one of the Wise variant of the Mothman. However, when the update went live, there is now only one of them. But what's more interesting is that the update is also what the deceased creature which we know as the Visitor was also added. Implying that the Wise Mothmen are connected to the Visitor prior to its death. Maybe the wisdom which they had were given to them by the Visitor. And with how the Mothman Cult based in the Lucky Hole Mine is hositle towards those who follows the Wise Mothman... It's possible that the Interloper is controlling the Red Eye Mothmen. This is due to how there are four colors which the eyes of the Mothmen can have. Each of which repersents something different. Orange for the Hatchlings, Green is obviously Radiation, Purple for the Wise Mothman whose aligned with the late Visitor, and Red is most definately the Interloper's minions. So this just begs the question about why the Interloper is against the Visitor. Since that should be what needs to be asked

[@mattsmith5704]

lol, I’ve never played 76 but White Springs is modeled after a resort I went to when I was a kid! When it came up on screen I said “well that looks familiar!”

[@itisgooddaytobenotdead.5126]

yeah everyone knows

[@MichaelAdams3D]

I haven't finished watching the video but as an avid 76 player since launch I am HIGHLY amused that it takes up far more space in the video than the other games.

[@napoleoniii1087]

I think that "Zeus" is the Vice President. The Cabinet Nuclear Alarm Logs say that the VP was sent an early warning, but he never responded to the message. The President himself was already at the Poseidon Oil Rig, so I think its likely he sent his VP to the Camp to meet with the Prime Minister in his stead, as he recognized how close the world was to nuclear war. The President, acting as "Bagman", had an assassin kill the VP on his way to the Camp, preventing him from responding to the early nuclear warning, because the VP was likely a powerful figure in the Enclave, given his contact was kept in the Cabinet Alarm system. I think that the rest of the Enclave leadership wanted the VP to be included in the Enclave post great war, but the President saw the VP as a threat or he just wanted him gone, so he had the VP killed to tie up that loose end, with the Prime Minister visit just being an excuse to get the VP to a location he could be killed at.

[@ClintOrris]

Hey Nate, just a bit of feedback, I really appreciate that you sped up your pace this time a smidge. The pacing was wonderful and the video was excellent, well done!

[@joshadams2812]

I think Osborne thing is a nod to the Kennedy, Oswald assassination

[@quintus920]

Realizing that I was a senior in HS when Nate here was a 4th grader... Feeling real old right about now, thanks a lot!

[@tomas-qr2el]

I was in HS when the original Wasteland came out on C64... you aren't all that old, bruh. ;)

[@MathMasterism]

I thinks it’s highly probable that the President was supposed to meet the UK PM in Appalachia but was hastily diverted to the Possieden Oil Rig when the early warning system was triggered.

[@Chill.7509]

Honestly in my opinion the single greatest fallout joke in would be planting all these clues about how it started only for the final scene in the final game to show some guy in a random bunker in some random country thst no one suspects. Ok so hes sitting there. His superiors are so paranoid that hes literally told to keep the big red button uncovered and ready. Hes sitting at his post. He starts nodding off. Then boom he falls asleep dropping face 1st on the big red button.

[@Thecommander248]

Fun fact, Harold Osborn is the name of the 2nd Green Goblin, aka "Harry" Osborn, from Spiderman.

[@morbius109]

Two pivotal figures in the last days of pre-War America who we have virtually no information about: the last President of the USA and the CEO of Vault-Tec. I wonder if we’ll ever learn anything concrete about either of them.

[@CuriousMothling]

Hey nate. I just wanted to say I love your long form content. I was a fan before you changed and your long form content has helped me start cleaning through my depression den. Still got a lot to do. But I'll stick to it. Just because I enjoy digging through the wastes of fallout doesn't mean I need to at home ❤😅❤

[@Danielwolfe-i5f]

Anyone else notice the little tod Howard at like 28:00 😭

[@whiterthanU53]

Also idk if anyone’s noticed yet but the name Harald Ozborn is strikingly similar to the name Harvey Oswald. The man who shot JFK. Could this be Bethesda implying that whoever Bagman is, is not actually the president. But maybe some other figure with power and that Zeus was the ACTUAL president on his way to meet the prime minister? I mean the evidence is there. The assassination is very similar to JFK. The sniper in a high structure, the motorcade, the name, even Osborne behavior before the shooting was similar to Oswald’s before the shooting. And then there’s the theory that the government was actually involved in JFK’s killing. Plus the black suitcase looks similar to the one that real presidents carry around for nuclear launch codes. So, Could bagman actually maybe be a high ranking member of the Enclave who wanted to get rid of the president so he could assume power? Idk. That’s just my theory.

[@MasterDamien616]

DUDE THANK YOU!!! This was my first pause of the show. My wife and I were like, "WHAT DID HE SAY?! NEW LORE!!".

[@sydryi3086]

love that the final note established the special relationship is still a thing between the US and the UK