The Curious Case of Kakariko Village - Zelda Theory

[@calamari08]

I’m tripped out, because the peanut farmer that you used is my uncle! He’s a peanut farmer in Georgia, USA! Lmao

[@MonsterMaze]

Wait really! Wow! What are the odds :O. Say hi to your uncles for me, and my apologies for photoshopping his face xD

[@calamari08]

@@MonsterMaze Yeah, I felt like I was in the twilight zone when I saw his face lol Blowing up his face was the best part! Lol

[@randomSPOOKYgirl3po]

It's been a week... has your uncle seen this yet? We need to know how this story ends.

[@linkswords10]

Lmao what are the odds 😂😭😭😂

[@EM663]

So… does he have a peanut allergy? Inquiring minds would like to know

[@joancruz2785]

"Kakariko Village was a peaceful place..." *color shifts to negative colors* "Until it WASN'T"

[@SavingCentury]

Anxiously waiting for this docuseries

[@joseveliz218]

Like the many small towns in real life that look cute but hold so many dee dark secrets.

[@smilesfordays]

She farms cucoo’s because her brother did first before he left to go into the forest. It’s probably the last connection she has to him after he disappears. It’s kind of heartbreaking...

[@gamerofthetime]

wait, they are related? That would make so much sense.

[@smilesfordays]

@@gamerofthetime yea she says the blue cucoo was her brothers and then he freaks out when you give it to him, calls him by name and says it’s his and gives you the saw... which is his fathers... the construction leader...

[@gamerofthetime]

@@smilesfordays This is the kind of detail I love to see, and hate that they get lost in other languages. I am sure she didn't say the blue cocoo was her brothers, she just said she has a special blue cocoo.

[@sidnew2739]

@@xionmemoria She does it in German, too.

[@sidnew2739]

@@gamerofthetime But she did. You just don't remember.

[@denezebootle]

I never got over the fact that bongo bongo is literally the upper torso of a man with his hands and head chopped off. Goshh

[@katiecurbow7086]

Rated E for everyone.

[@dayshallcomeagain]

Rated E for Eternal Nightmares.

[@kamille286]

And somehow I didn't notice until watching this video. I feel like a missed a lot while playing Oot

[@eboroni]

He looks like he is bending backwards

[@jnf6772]

Omg!! Never noticed it

[@auru1325]

Monster maze makes a new video Nintendo: let's go we get to learn the lore

[@buzzzysin]

Ha!

[@auru1325]

Thx so much for the heart and likes

[@apIthletIcc]

@@auru1325 navi is the guide lol thats perfect

[@KalCounty]

What I love about the Zelda lore community is their ability to make a 25min video based on a couple random pools of acid used as obstacles for the player and make it all sound logical and compelling.

[@gameman3981]

It's like how Matthew Robert Patrick could make you believe that the movie "Titanic" by James Cameron is about time-travel. Yes, he has actually made a theory about such a thing and due to the evidence he shares it seems completely plausible.

[@GalactaKnight-tu9ig]

I love me a good Zelda theory

[@afroman3724]

I love even a bad one

[@jessicaconner1242]

So all theories of Zelda

[@jblazer9804]

👍

[@GSEleven]

Couldn't agree more.

[@shinobifirecracker6671]

Where’s the rest? This is the only one I’ve seen ever.

[@Melont06]

It's so creepy that these people are living a normal life above, yet they don't know about this whole dungeon beneath their feet. There's literally bodies down there!

[@BlaxeFrost-X]

as far as we know, that could happen literally everywhere in the real world

[@MonsterMaze]

Look up the Paris Catacombs, and you will get a real life equivalent of what we see in Kakariko. Well... minus the zombies and magic that is xD

[@docAvid314]

@@MonsterMaze bold of you to assume there are no zombies in the Paris catacombs

[@orio-kami7601]

@@MonsterMaze I think another difference is that we know it exists. It is STILL creepy, but a little less.

[@Val.Kyrie.]

@@orio-kami7601 there’s a lot of undercity cities people have no idea about. Almost anyone can be living above a centuries old town or city.

[@thegnoblin]

Kakariko Village: seemingly peaceful, but SUPER CREEPY. [Insert Zonai swirl here]

[@ast.4049]

[@fluffynator6222]

The Zonai might be the new Sheikah.

[@r_e_e_e_c_h]

@@ast.4049 Wait, there's a Zonai emoji?

[@ZeldaLore]

@@r_e_e_e_c_h always has been

[@r_e_e_e_c_h]

@@fluffynator6222 Personally, I think the Zonai might be the old Sheikah, the ones who used the old, archaic magic and created all the magical artifacts. The "new" Sheikah are the ones who used technology to create the Divine Beasts and guardians

[@symbolik4372]

I had not even really thought about those Green pools before but now that i think about it, that makes 3 forms of magic liquid in the Zelda Franchise. Malice, the blue liquid used in Sheikah technology found in BOTW and the green pools in Ocarina of time. Interestingly the colors all correspond to the 3 goddesses, Nayru, Din and Farore. Perhaps these liquids are some form of pure essence from each of the goddesses used to create Hyrule. It does seem to fit as Farore, represented by the color green created life so it stands to reason that it can reanimate corpses, and is often used to represent spirits. Similarly Nayru is the goddess of Wisdom, represented by the color blue who created Law and order, which in terms of the universe can be calculable with mathematics which would explain why Sheikah technology would use a blue liquid. And Malice is red and black and represents Din who is associated with creating the material realm which might explain why Malice is shown as being more of a goop than a liquid and can take shape such as Malice eyes or Ganons Blights.

[@chewie221b]

I've been playing BOTW & OoT for two years and I was today years old when I realized that tHE DRAGONS HAVE THE SAME NAMES & COLORS AS THE THREE GODDESSES!! 🤯🤯 how did I not notice that?!??!??

[@symbolik4372]

@@chewie221b I had the same reaction when i first caught the reference too. Gotta hand it to Nintendo they love their references. lol. Though they are not quite the same names. the dragons are Dinraal, Naydra and Farosh, not Din, Nayru and Farore. But yes they are named after the three golden goddesses. There are theorists out there who suggest this was not just an easter egg but that these dragons are deities related to the goddesses, but that's all speculation at this point.

[@chewie221b]

@@symbolik4372 that's right not the same names but very similar. Either way it's very cool and it makes me wanna play OoT again to go through the dungeons with new perspective

[@symbolik4372]

@@chewie221b there's always master quest. Dungeons are different, feels like a whole new experience. You can get it on emulator too. project 64 is a good emulator.

[@pennyd.5866]

Nice catch!

[@BanditGames]

Aaaand just when I thought you couldn't get any better at cinematography and editing, you did just that. This was a spectacle to watch, as well as a hell of a theory that attempts to tie so much of this Kakariko weirdness (and even BotW 2) together. Impressively well done sir. Also, points for Ocarina of Time love.

[@MonsterMaze]

Why thank you so much mister bandit! Keep the Ocarina of Time love alive!

[@slimygastrodon]

Imagine if Kakariko Village was where Ganondorf was hidden!

[@gregzotter6189]

@@slimygastrodon How terrifying! But highly interesting.

[@Rachel-jg7sv]

Bandit!

[@HowIremember]

We made some models from the Shadow Temple entrance and the Kakariko Catacombs that could have helped in this video (only if you like them of course).

[@shadowdecidueye]

Thor said it best; “Your Ancestors Called it Magic, but You Call it Science. I Come From a Land Where They Are One and the Same.”

[@MonsterMaze]

Omg I ALMOST put that clip in the actual video. It's even in the script still, but I couldn't find a decent quality clip of it :(

[@chedidkamal837]

@@MonsterMaze that’s sad

[@Emerald23928]

I've said this before but I want to say it again, they should 100% add redeads to BOTW2. Anyone else agree?

[@varden506]

One could argue that dehydrated ganondorf is a pretty close example

[@adrianrosales98]

That makes sense when ganondorf gained power in OoT all of the town was ran up with redeads so he casted a curse on the people and turned them into redeads and then whoever imprisoned him under Hyrule castle In botw casted the curse on him?

[@adrianrosales98]

@@varden506 ^^

[@misterclinkers3774]

Better, also bring back Dead Hand and Gibdos.

[@varden506]

@@misterclinkers3774 yes and yess

[@MonsterMaze]

8:13 "Knowlegde"... can't have a Monster Maze video without at least ONE typo ^^. Anyway, thanks as always for watching everyone ^^. Be sure to check out NBC's video! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gX-wn4t6oc1lrpI

[@auru1325]

Hi

[@auru1325]

Monster maze makes a new video Nintendo: let's go we get to learn the lore

[@MischievousLittleImp]

BTW, isn't it "Hyrulean War" instead of "Hyrulian War"?

[@theoaremevano3227]

"You've just watched another Monster Maze production, consider yourself knowlegde."

[@En-cw7cl]

Without* We can't have comments without typos either!

[@chessycopter9619]

0:59 I’d like to point out that this lady was also JUGGLING HER CUCCOS in the end credits of the game.

[@MonsterMaze]

What a scammer! She was playing us the whole time :O

[@sammaloney1746]

Underrated observation and comment!

[@sammaloney1746]

@@MonsterMaze Sounds like there's a theory there somewhere!

[@lasercraft32]

Imagine a peanut farmer with a peanut allergy juggling peanuts... 🤔

[@JordenBarry]

Never ever noticed the Sheikah texts in the houses around Hyrule. So many great arguments made in this video you guys.

[@blitzgirl6522]

But did those books with the logo exist in the original N64 version of the game? If they didn't, then this theory doesn't hold up.

[@MonsterMaze]

@@blitzgirl6522 I don't see why the theory wouldn't hold up. Ocarina of Time 3D is the newer version of the game, and allowed them to put more details and hints in the environments than they could in the original. Which now looks empty compared to the 3DS version. Ocarina 3D is just as canon in my opinion. They didn't change the overal story, they just added some new details.

[@blitzgirl6522]

@@MonsterMaze But someone other than Nintendo did the actual remaster, right? How do we know they didn't put in stuff they wanted to put in without Nintendo's consent? I just can't consider it 100% canon, feels shoe-horned. Plus with all the mods people add to emulated versions of the game that make it not even look the same.

[@karihana]

@@blitzgirl6522 Canonicity belongs to the IP holders and those who work on it (the IP), and we don't really decide or have a say about that. By following your logic, a good amount of Zelda games in the timeline are not canon at all because they aren't made by Nintendo EAD/EPD team themselves (Minish Cap, Oracles, Triforce Heroes and most remakes), and so are many books that reveal and explain the lore of the series (notably, Creating a Champion). I'm not going to open the can of worms concerning localisation because following your logic all non-Japanese Zelda games and lore are not canon because the translation isn't done by the creators. If any studio or company is allowed to work on a big IP like this, the creators oversee and it should be considered as canon even if it contradicts the source material from the creator themselves (creators contradict themselves all the time, anyway). That is why Zelda theorists often decide to use the creators' source material for lore rather than spinoffs or something made by third parties if there is a contradiction. Adding worldbuilding and secrets (that may have been originally made by the creators, by the way, since worldbuilding is the first step of making a game) does not make a game noncanon because its original game or the creators were not capable of showing it back then.

[@akward4210]

@@karihana I think that part of the problem that @Blitzgirl is bringing up is that even the creative teams from Nintendo that are aiding these third-party developers involved in these remasters may not even consist of the original creative teams that made the original games. These different team members could still be adding in details based on interpretations that weren't intended in the original game. Even if they did consist of some original team members, creators can still change their opinions about the intentions behind their creative works over time and make alterations to those works in order to "fix" them. This has already happened in the Zelda series with Majora's Mask 3D, where upon revisiting the original game, Eiji Aonuma is quoted to have thought that something was wrong with him back when he was the game's codirector; a lot ended up being changed in Majora's Mask 3D from the original game which upset many fans. We can assume that the added worldbuilding and secrets in Ocarina of Time 3D were from the original creators, but we can also just as easily assume that @Blitzgirl is right and all the additions were from Grezzo or Nintendo team members who had little to no involvement with the original game's development and probably didn't care if a couple new details were added. None of us were there during the development to really know what the creative team's intentions were, besides "Let's replace these blurry textures with more detailed stuff so the game looks better." Nintendo has never been about developing their games around worldbuilding, it's almost always been about developing worldbuilding and story around gameplay.

[@centurosproductions8827]

"The fact that a lot of people died here doesn't automatically explain why they would rise from the grave." Except many fantasy stories would explain it because of specifically the *way* they seem to have died.

[@Flaris]

That's what I was thinking too. Dying on the battlefield and being tortured to death are two rather different ways to go. Pretty common fictional concept that the latter would cause more ghosts, zombies, and 'bad vibes' than the former.

[@MsOdd86]

Literally in Japan they have special words for the type of ghosts that spawn from different types of death and the ones who die unjustly or in extreme distress are the most dangerous and likely to appear

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

And the moral of the story is: don’t mess around with Farore‘s powers. She gives life, and she can take it away.

[@MonsterMaze]

Well said

[@dayshallcomeagain]

Never thought about it that way. If that's the case, it makes a lot of sense why Link is the holder of the Triforce of Courage, as he is often seen giving peace to the spirits of the dead.

[@dr.velious5411]

@@dayshallcomeagain That gives a lot of context to Majoras Mask too.

[@cifge_404]

Uh, yeah lol. I would think that messing around with and trying to abuse the powers of a deity is just generally a bad idea.

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

@@cifge_404 Well, that and the fact that the energy is green.

[@darkhobo]

So since this was a Civil War, and there are very few Sheikah left... And Hylians now live in Kakariko. It could be the Royal Family found out about the Sheikah experiments and that kicked off the Civil War. An early version of the Yiga, if you will.

[@JariDawnchild]

Possibly? Bongo Bongo did lead a traitorous faction of the Sheikah before they were all hunted down by the loyalists and executed. That's where most of the Sheikah had gone by the start of OoT, the ones who weren't killed in battle were killed by other Sheikah. I, personally, think that's where the redead came from, their efforts to develop the techniques that would later preserve the monks in BoTW.

[@darkhobo]

@@JariDawnchild pure speculation

[@JariDawnchild]

@@darkhobo Of course, that's what makes stuff like this fun lol.

[@salome5603]

Even when you think you've heard of all possible zelda theories, you guys always find a way to deliver some new great ones. Thanks! That video was awesome

[@MonsterMaze]

Thanks for watching! Im glad you enjoyed it ^^

[@harrisonwaterfield7260]

okay 👌 what

[@maxbetatron]

I love these theories. I wonder if the River of the Dead from BOTW is really the flooded village and temple. If so... It’s pretty close to the resurrection chamber as well. So maybe the connection is even stronger.

[@spaceghost9969]

Also Kakariko is the sound a rooster makes in French, which Paris has very similar well known catacombs.

[@spaceghost9969]

@Eternal Cowboy Zeldas so full of gravy it’s just ridiculous. Here’s a ladle for ya. Obviously Majoras Masks Stone Tower is the tower of Babylon. They tower they built as a shortcut the heaven go God inverted the whole thing, there’s a reason you turn it upside down to get to the boss who’s definitely not on the moon. The moon landing in Majoras Mask hits a lot closer to Dante’s Paradiso than that boomer NASA nonsense.

[@dayshallcomeagain]

@@spaceghost9969 Babel. Not Babylon.

[@spaceghost9969]

@@dayshallcomeagain o thanks but hold on! I thought the Babel tower was in Babylon or was it older?

[@MonsterMaze]

No way! That is crazy! Wow... I have NEVER heard that before. If that was intentional, then the Zelda team are more genius than I thought.

[@spaceghost9969]

@@MonsterMaze I think they know exactly what they’re doing, they maybe run of elves. Wind Waker was all about the flood also I’m pretty sure that in Skyward Sword Hylias supposed to be Gaia. Maybe though with reversed roles with her as the sky and Demise below as Urectum. You know what I mean and I just ended that stupid joke once and for all!

[@darkspider420]

I love how interconnected the Zelda theory community really is.

[@docAvid314]

One of the great things about Zelda is how it's like secretly super dark. A couple entries have a more overt dark vibe, but if you look closely enough, most of them are surprisingly creepy and sad. Wind Waker is a post apocalyptic cartoon with an antagonist you can sympathize with, despite his ruthlessness. Breath of the Wild is populated with people suffering from severe post traumatic stress syndrome and barely coping. I think a lot of people miss these things, but not you!

[@juanma250297]

With how smart and resourceful the Sheikah were, I find it hard to believe that they are really dead. I mean they were basically ninjas and they had knowledge of magic and even of tunnels and caves

[@michaelmario299]

My own pet theory is that the Sheikah ever being close to extinction was propaganda on their and the Royal Family's part to give them cover if the atrocities beneath Kakariko Village were ever discovered. They just went into hiding after the Hyrulean Civil War and eventually resurfaced in Breath of the Wild's backstory.

[@kirbykid2635]

this makes you wonder if the cave the Ganondorf is sealed in is underneath Botw's kakariko village

[@The_Super_NOVA]

* Snake cardboard box surprise sound effect *

[@sammaloney1746]

Love how you zelda theorists all show love and support for each other and each others content!!! The heroicism of the lore is not lost on you! It's a truly beautiful thing!

[@UnasZole]

For some reason, "Professor Maze and the Curious Village" is the first thing that came to mind when reading the title ! And the video didn't disappoint, one of your best !

[@MonsterMaze]

Professor Maze says: Thank you!

[@kathleenbielecki6814]

The explanation of the redeads made me think about Kikyo from Inuyasha as her body is made from clay and bone made from magic and her addition of her soul gave her somewhat free will. The redeads could be made like that completely without free will.

[@centurosproductions8827]

"If we as Zelda fans had to choose... zombies are obviously cooler. I mean, come on."

[@RobbWes]

The medicine shop owner in castle Town is also a student of the old lady in Kakariko.

[@asenseofyarning5614]

Would that mean the Sheikah book we see all over the place is like a college textbook? Lol. That poor Castle Town shop owner must've kept the book after graduating his apprenticeship because the campus bookstore would only buy it back for 10% of its value. Ngl, I also kept textbooks out of spite.

[@xxgalaticrpgxx1849]

What if the reason for the negative side effects and off coloration is because that is unrefined magic, like how you have to process crude oil to get gasoline

[@RoninCatholic]

Hyrule Field is also teeming with undead - Stalchildren when you're a child and Big Poes when you're an adult.

[@metalcorpseman5433]

One thing that trips me out (and what brought me to this video) is that the music man in the windmill tells Link about playing the Song of Storms before it actually occurs. Link has to travel into the future to learn about an event that has already happened (in the past) before it even occurred. This is probably why they label the inside of the windmill with a "?" when you go in there. Great video guys, thanks! ♥

[@nicobones9608]

Link to the Past hints at a lot of this too. The Dark World is a mirror of Hyrule, and Kakariko's counterpart is The Village of Outcasts. The Village of Outcasts has a vast underground prison, just like OoT Kakariko, full of traps and the like. Also, one of the citizens of Kakariko Village says that one particular building in the town used to be a hideout for a gang of thieves.

[@theoaremevano3227]

How ReDeads were named: -Bringing a person back to life: "Wha? Huh? I'm ALIVE! WOHOO!" Shiekah testers: "A bit too alive... can we kill him again, just.. not as much?" I always thought of the substance in the underground areas as just acid. The fact that this actually adds up with stuff established later on down the road so well is incredibly amusing. :D Okay, seriously, I'm almost angry how well this stuff adds up. XD This is ridiculous. I'd like to think some of this actually occurred to developers and is the reason for many supporting details. I do love the idea they'd embrace this lore.

[@Swift96]

Could the redeads that Link encounters in the bottom of the well as a child be leftover creations by Bongo Bongo from the time before he was sealed away?

[@MonsterMaze]

It's hard to say. It's strange actually, because when Link visits the well as a kid, Bongo Bongo is not there. Even though he technically should be in the well still. Even if mister bongo created the redeads inside the well, it still doesn't account for the ones in the Royal Crypt. Kakariko is such a mysterious place!

[@zacharydavies5381]

@@MonsterMaze i think that he is released from the well when ganondorf gains the triforce and is just hiding in the shadow temple, waiting for impa to return after escaping with zelda which is why we cant find him in the well

[@Scarletthedeadhand-deadwalker]

@@MonsterMaze mister bongo was probably busy practicing his bongo skills somewhere out of reach in the bottom of the well

[@user-me5fh3yu1j]

I don't think Ganondorf knows about the reincarnation. Based on that, he may have discovered the redead juice from the king's advisors when he took over, injected HIMSELF with it as a bid for immortality, and that desire for eternal life led to an eternity of not quite being dead until he wakes up in BOTW 2.

[@Cretaceous158]

Different Ganondorf.

[@kinggilgamesh013]

The blue fire has been a thing since oot so in my mind that is the source of the sheikah tech as reinforcedby botw. Magic itself was used by Hylia and the robots had tech and a power source before there was hyrule. The green fluid was probably a type of acid used for security in the crypt and torture in the well. I appreciate the work you put in but idk bout this one.

[@pennyd.5866]

Great Video! Here's something else to consider. In the game one of the NPCs mentioned Kakariko being opened to the poor of Hyrule by Impa, suggesting that this village wasn't always open to outsiders. Perhaps Kakariko village was originally closed to outsiders, similar to the concept of a Soviet-era 'closed cities' which were used to manufacture weapons or were involved in closely-guarded state secrets? Perhaps the Shadow Temple served as a chief research facility that was eventually converted into a black site for Hylian experimentation while the other tunnels, such as the Well and Dampe's tomb, were planned expansions (as you seem to suggest in your video). Maybe Kakariko Village was deliberately built over the remnants of a Shiekah research station to cover up the research and fallout caused from tampering with forbidden knowledge? You know, once all the undead and demons have been properly sealed away in the ruins.

[@Ninten007]

Great Theory! It could be possible that the energy also pooled in that initial spot Because of the Shiekah’s activities. Whether they knew this or not. I’ve always viewed the shadow temple as some sort of filter or containment for hatred, with bongo bongo being some manifestation of this “greed and hatred.” This would make it seem similar to Malice, but maybe that’s the point.

[@elitegamer9310]

I have a theory, based off of this one of course, that the Green liquid is basically magical fossil fuels. Just that, instead of being from dead plants/animals, it's from all those Demise and his demons killed.

[@Kopke_Your_Realtor]

I have ALWAYS thought Bongo Bongos eye looks suspiciously like the Sheikah eye.

[@fernandowada7504]

Monster Maze, NintendoBlackCrisis and Zeltik are the triforce of Zelda theories!

[@EnchWraits]

MM->green->courage NBC->red/purple/black->power Zeltik->goldish->wisdom

[@BlaxeFrost-X]

@@EnchWraits rather than courage, power and wisdom, the colors represent the godesses that in extension relates to the triforce like that... but the godesses first

[@EnchWraits]

@@BlaxeFrost-X yes, but those are the things (can't think of a better word right now) in humans, or hylians, or gerudo, releted to the pieces of the triforce and the golden godesses.

[@dayshallcomeagain]

You know, I think that Bongo Bongo and by extension the Shadow Temple as well could be connected to the Interlopers, or as they're described in the japanese version, the Shadow Clan. Take a look at Bongo Bongo. He looks VERY similar to the Shadow Beasts of Twilight Princess, heck even his title is *"Phantom Shadow Beast"*. When in direct sunlight, he's either invisible, or visible only as a living shadow, much like Midna does at times. Could Bongo Bongo, in life, have been an interloper? An old man in Kakariko Village speaks of a man "with an eye that they said could see the truth!", and that "his house stood where the well is now". Is it really a coincidence that Bongo Bongo first emerges from the well and that the Lens of Truth is found there? I think not. I think that Bongo Bongo was that very same man. He was once a human being most likely a Sheikah, who due to his greed and hatred, was transformed into a vicious monster. Twilight Princess and the Shadow Temple of Ocarina of Time seem to share a common theme of inner darkness and inner corruption. The interlopers were not an outside force, but were civilians of Hyrule. As stated by a spirit in the Shadow Temple "Here lies Hyrule's bloody history of Greed and Hatred..." Hyrule's worst calamities came from within, and I think that the connections made between the interlopers and the Shadow Temple are too strong to ignore. The Mirror of Twilight, even a small shard, is capable is bringing out the worst in a person and changing them into a horrific monster, as is seen with Yeta, even if they are not bad people themselves. The Fused Shadow is also capable of such a feat. The Mirror of Twilight and the Fused Shadow pieces are even enough to draw in the undead. The darkness attracted the monsters, who gather in both the Shadow Temple and the Arbiter's Grounds in great numbers. So what am I saying exactly? I think that either the fused shadow or the mirror of twilight(or both) were made and kept here, explaining the large concentration of monsters and undead creatures in the Shadow Temple. If Bongo Bongo was able to create the Lens of Truth, who says he stopped creating new things, possibly the mirror of twilight or the fused shadow?

[@tarashaw2523]

I like that theory

[@paulturner1311]

Wow i hadn’t even considered that we had seen free flowing green substance in the series (green pools, green fumes)or that we already have a name for zombie in the Zelda universe (Redead).i wonder if you could refer to the mummified Shikah shrine monks and the decrepit Ganondorf as redead?

[@mangojam4518]

Ok the title of this video reads like a Junji Ito manga lol See The Enigma of Amigara Fault

[@askinnyball785]

Mysterious green spirit magic? Zonai vibes. Wonder how many times i have heard the word ”zonai“ now

[@MonsterMaze]

I purposely didn't call them by name in this video haha. But yes... Zonai!

[@ShadowSkyX]

If you go to the old lady's shop behind the regular potion shop, her potions give that same kind of smoke. It's remincent of malice moreso in a way, hurting you when you touch it and presumably reanimating the dead and such, except its shown here to be green to be a visional indicative "it's poisonous, don't walk in it" to the player. I mean unless the "lava" beneath ganon's castle isn't just lava, the coloration of the mask and lens of truth don't make sense if they pulled the green substance from underneath the village. After all, both the mask and lens of truth share the eye of malice, and the lens is the same color as the "poisonous red water" found in skyward sword and the malice goop in botw.

[@elementalheroneos2757]

Probably too many to count

[@sarahireland2619]

The Sheikah: finds liquid substance that can do damage if standing in it* The goddesses: 😳

[@4sight611]

I remember when you first suddenly appeared in my feed... one of the best days of my youtube life.

[@MonsterMaze]

Happy to hear I did not disappoint ^^

[@Buphido]

Damn, this makes a LOT of sense! Especially how the green pool at the bottom of the well was randomly dug out, it does indeed look that way so why did I never think of it? If we take inspiration from some fantasy novels then it would make sense to say that, as Hyrule is inherently a place that contains magic, this magic has to be present everywhere in the world in varying higher and lower concentrations. And it might be then that the earth, too, is inhabited by magic in the form of veins running through it like long, thick, liquid roots. And then it just so happened that the Sheikah stumbled upon such a vein. It's not that different from fossil fuels, just that magic has a lot more potential. And here we also have our tie in back into the science of botw.

[@MonsterMaze]

So magic in Hyrule is kinda like Mana in a sense? Something tangable that exists, and is responsible for the existence of magic.

[@Buphido]

@@MonsterMaze Yeah, like that! And if we tie that into the interpretation of green standing both for magic and for souls, we can go further and say that magic is the same thing as life force and the magic veins we speculated about are literally the blood of the planet. And it damages Link when standing inside it because, instead of the life force flowing into him in the form of magic, his life force is being sucked out. And also, the green stuff would then again have a connection to redeads because it could infuse dead bodies with lifeforce, kind of like a faux soul, a replica of the real thing, just coming from the earth itself. I mean, let’s look at A Link between Worlds real quick. Isn’t magic substituted for stamina there? And stamina, in a sense, is the energy stored inside the body making it move. Its life force. In that way we could again speculate that ALbW Link is the only Link inherently capable of magic by sacrificing his stamina for power. Luckily it regenerates, because I could imagine that sacrificing more than your stamina would result in damage to your hearts. Wait... Hearts interchangeable for stamina? Botw anyone? :P

[@krspykreame1]

Seems more of an allegory for our own world to me. Uranium is green, mined, and has killed plenty of people. It's unlimited power but at what cost? IDK

[@jermtwitero]

Many interesting stuff, but specially the fac that the green pool of presumed spiritual energy could have been version of the Lazarus pit of DC lore is very intriguing OWO!

[@elitegamer9310]

It is sort of like a nerfed Lazarus pit. Instead of bringing you back from death with a little bit of psychosis, you just come back as a zombie, with little memory of your previous life.

[@MonsterMaze]

Let's go Jerm! Sorry for the late reply. I had some nasty deadlines after this video went up haha

[@mattlink1235]

Good video but link in OOT actually has access to magic without the use of a magic item. After he is granted magic power by the great fairies, he can do a magic spin attack. This implies that link may have the spirit required for magic but not the reservoir of power needed to fuel it. Also in other Zelda games, link has access to sword beams which are clearly also magical.

[@Uusarushirley]

Maybe spin attack is also linked to the master sword ?

[@Lucy-uf6oi]

@@Uusarushirley he learns spin attack as young link

[@Solibrae]

Maybe this explains how the Stone & Shard of Agony work too, since if they use this theoretical "Spirit Magic" then maybe they can commune with nearby spirits, or indeed the spirit of the earth itself, to allow the user to find secret places.

[@King-hl1ck]

Ahh yes😌. Perfect video to go with my dinner for tonight after work. Thanks monster maze you are amazing.👍🏾

[@lurkerlight1430]

Amazing video as always! Interesting to think that there might be more "sacred water" than just the blue stuff we see regularly. Maybe this green water is farores version? If it does have to do with spirits and the like, and farore is supposed to be the one who gave the spark of life to the world if I'm remembering right. (Additionally, I actually did know a woman who's family grew wheat and barley and had a severe gluten intolerance - she couldnt eat anything off the farm much to her frustration.)

[@Allplussomeminus]

What makes Zelda lore more powerful is the fact the community has to dig up information. A lot of it isn't explicitly told in the actual games

[@WizardJoni]

Sufficiently analyzed Magic is undisinguishable from Science. D&D has a few settings known for this philosophy, Eberron being most famous for this. The technology in BotW is clearly Magitech.

[@boigeorge1149]

I've always thought of that green stuff as acid used as a minor protective measure, but I love the idea of it being a sort of magical lifeblood!

[@AFG-yc1ck]

What if BOTW the monks are made of that green stoff to live longer (Sorry for bad English)

[@MonsterMaze]

Great point!

[@remka2000]

I always thought these were mummies that died a long time ago. They look A LOT like Japanese mummies TBH.

[@Z-Man7]

Bongo Bongo is the ghost of the man with the eye that could see the truth. The old man in the blue robe in Adult Link's time tells you the man's house stood where the well is, and where was Bongo originally sealed? Bottom of the Well.

[@buzzzysin]

The Leviathan Labyrinth- wait, no the Titan Entanglement- wait, no The Monster Maze has gifted us again :3

[@MonsterMaze]

I love the synonyms xD

[@Obad87]

In tears of the kingdom Gannon's body is glowing with green magic spirit energy.

[@chessycopter9619]

Wow this was actually one of the most interesting theories I’ve seen. It all connects and gave me so many *(gasp)* moments

[@Dealerofdeath1998]

Love your videos bro please keep making these zelda videos gives me nostalgia every time ❤

[@moss_and_ivy3517]

youve clearly put a lot of thought into this, its fascinating !

[@genecron]

Looking back, it's both funny and sad that you applied more thought to your analysis of Rauru's arm and Ganondorf's body than Nintendo did for all of TOTK's story. Lol

[@h3ll_here]

4 minutes into a 25 minute long video and you basically said that kakariko village used to be auschwitz, i cant wait to find out more disturbing stuff about an innocent looking game

[@kuroikumo8338]

The thing about ganondorf’s body never truly dying. Could that be why they changed the blood he coughs up to green? To further signify that he was experimenting with the spirit juice.

[@masterspongebat2387]

The dislike is from Bongo Bongo

[@eshalrafiq1999]

😂😂

[@linkthepig4219]

There are 9 now, meaning it's Deadhand, Bongo Bongo, Gohma, Ganondorf, Morpha, Kotake, Koume, Volvagia and Ingo.

[@mchchef11]

So in the section where you talk about the green energy if you really think about it, technology basically is magic I mean it’s powered by a giant bolt of light that comes out of the sky. It sounds pretty magical when you say it like that so I wouldn’t be surprised if “magic” was just technology, but powered by a different fuel source than traditional electricity

[@alyxxpratt678]

My click speed after seeing the notification for this video 📈📈📈

[@kirbykid2635]

same

[@steffenschmidt3470]

As much sense as the green substance being destructive (spirit?) magic may be, this was just liquid poison. This was so normal in the 90s :D It's green, and it deals damage when you go into it, so everyone just knew it's poison. No one really questioned why it was there, but it just belonged into creepy dungeons with zombies.

[@Candy-8448]

litterally 2 seconds ago i was on youtube and there was nothing new posted so i went on discord and it said there was a new vid so i was confused. when i came bk here i found this

[@earthmother4397]

What a great video to enjoy my breakfast with. Very dark and interesting history. Imagine living in the village and stumbling upon that creepy underground. Yikes.

[@PatThePerson]

1:28 cities of the underworld theme plays

[@DaBroski100]

A little late to the conversation, but makes me wonder if the green substance is an intentional parallel to oil. After all, some of it is found at the bottom of a well...🤔 With it being found in the Royal Tomb also makes me wonder if there's a reference/parallel to Emperor Qin Shi Huang's tomb in China, since it supposedly contains rivers of mercury, which was believed to grant extended life, but is actually super toxic. Anyway, cool theory!

[@DidMikeMakeThis]

I just assume the green shit has the power to bring the dead back to life and the royal family put it in their own graves in the hopes it would do that for them but instead they turned into redead, and then bongo bongo was in the room full of it for the same reason, to try and make himself a new body.

[@dayshallcomeagain]

That was a thought I had as well. I always found it strange how the poem in the royal family's tomb is for the royal family, and yet all it talks about is the tortured undead beings residing in the crypt. The redeads possibly being royal family members as well has always been an idea I had.

[@grimmquinn2003]

Actually, Chu Chus do exist in Majora's Mask. The green and pinkish slime monsters found in bushes are Chu Chus! Although they do not give you jelly, they do give the equivalent of it, which are hearts and magic potion bottles. (It's confirmed, just look it up). You may wanna go over that potion shop theory. 😅

[@saber7534]

They only exist in Majora's Mask, not Ocarina

[@grimmquinn2003]

@@saber7534 ah, you were right! But still goes to show that you knew of their existence in one of the N64 games. I often get them confused due to how many similar elements the games have (parralel worlds blah blah blah).

[@saber7534]

Lol I feel ya. It comes from playing the N64 Zeldas way too much, otherwise I'd likely gotten that wrong myself. These games can truly be confusing at times.

[@marisanya]

Monster Maze, this is one of the best ones yet

[@MonsterMaze]

Glad to hear! It was very fun to work on this one. I really love the darker side of Zelda ^^

[@ThatTacoLady]

Wow, I played OoT multiple times in my life, and I never noticed the Shieka books! I guess I was too busy trying to rescue the shark in the laboratory. Totally subscribing!

[@KatDiedAgain]

This is so well put together. I am sold, as usual!

[@LegendaryPokemon1221]

I've gotta say, I've seen you guys before and I lpve your theories... but it's even better when you collaborate! You can clearly see how much work goes into these videos, and I just want to let you know we appreciate you guys.

[@thetimelords911]

2:36 I had to do a double-take when you threw in the Ravenholm music from Half-Life 2. Great inclusion!

[@MonsterMaze]

Ravenholm is so legendary> And it's a town overrun by zombies. It was just TOO fitting haha.

[@Ness_and_Sonic]

The ones in the town could be Ganondorf's work. How many soldiers are there in the child and adult era? I've to wonder if there's a connection between the soldiers, the redeads, and the big poes in the Hyrule field. However, I don't think there's any green water in the future Castle Town, so I've to wonder about that part of things.

[@laurenloertscher1319]

Do the Zelda developers watch these videos? They might find some cool inspiration...

[@rosem5062]

This was really well done. Nicely written and organized. I felt like I was watching a documentary about a real-life place. This is the first Monster Maze video I've seen and it made me subscribe within the first 5 minutes.

[@InkMink]

This video makes the fact that link wakes up from a “sleep” in a pool of liquid in botw kind of creepy 😂

[@quigz125]

The lore of the magic so so crazy. I love how you’re able to critically think of the lore on the green substance. I never thought twice of the “scaffolding” on the green pool at the bottom of the well until now. Now this makes perfect sense.

[@AidanRatnage]

I thought the Triforce of Courage the Hero of Time had allowed him to use magic like Farore's Wind and the Lens of Truth.

[@BlaxeFrost-X]

The Hero of Time got the magic capabilities before getting the triforce of power, by the great fairy of death mountain when he was rewarded for freeing dodongo cavern for the gorons

[@elitegamer9310]

Y'know, now that I think about it. What does the Triforce of Courage really do? I mean, does it just make you really courageous? As dumb as that sounds. Triforce of Power grants enhanced strength physical or magical. Triforce of Wisdom, grants intelligence and magical powers. But the Triforce of Courage just doesn't seem to do much.

[@AidanRatnage]

@@elitegamer9310 Yeah, it doesn't seem to do much at all, when Ganondorf took the Triforce of Power in OoT Wisdom and Courage went to Zelda and Link because they are the bravest and wisest Hyruleans so the other 2 pieces make the Princess and Hero just more so of one of their traits, maybe? In ALttP Ganon had all 3 pieces and he was still sealed by the 6 Sages and Zelda so maybe she doesn't even need a piece to use magic either. The only times where the Triforce pieces actually does anything other than grant a wish is in TP where it turns Link into a Wolf instead of a Spirit and stops Zelda becoming a Spirit and arguably Zelda's Sealing power in BotW (which is theorised to be the full Triforce) which as well as sealing Ganon allowed her to kill a bunch of guardian stalkers with ease at Fort Hateno.

[@Kyrious]

I love the Dark undertones of OOT and MM, even TP. Something Zelda has lacked for years. Hopefully the new Zelda takes this approach and it's not just trailer snuff

[@HyruleNews]

This was an awesome video mate, loved it! 🤝

[@UltimateTobi]

I like how you can always learn something new in such detail, from unspoken lore. So much hints and evidence that "just" lies around for you guys to pick up and formulate into hypotheses or theories. Especially from a game that came out in the late 90s; and not even (majorly?) contradicting older and newer games. Awesome. That is why I love the Zelda franchise (well, I grew up with it). I think many absorb those things subconsciously, but wouldn't know how to explain. You guys can and do, so thanks!

[@WideMouth]

I guess the cucco lady inherited her cuccos from her parents and was forced to carry on the family business despite her allergies 🤷🏻‍♂️ *edit; Also, the Stone/Shard of Agony was said to have been made from a Gossip Stone. The Pirate’s Charm in TWW was also said to have been made from a Gossip Stone, and appears to be made of the same material as the Shard of Agony. This means that the inside of a Gossip Stone has the appearance of a green crystal, which makes another connection between the Sheikah and the green substances. I think the Sheikah constructed the gossip stones using the green substance as sort of security cameras that would collect data and intel on what happens around them. They probably also infused the stones with human souls so that they would be sentient and have the ability to convey information. The sheikah would use special items, such as the Mask of Truth, in order to extract the data the stones had collected. So yeah, the royal family had the sheikah construct magic cameras to spy on the people of Hyrule.

[@MonsterMaze]

Ah yes! Thanks for that addition. I totally forgot about the gossip stones. Which are already one of the most unexplained things in the series.

[@LilacMonarch]

Also she says her allergic reaction is getting goosebumps. That...doesn't seem very severe

[@Lilliathi]

I agree apart from the green goop being dug up. I always interpreted it as the restless souls of the executed prisoners accumulating and becoming so dense that they manifest physically, and that this energy is also what's resurrecting the dead.. the hands sticking out of it being buried corpses in the process of coming back to life after coming into contact with it. The sins of the Sheikah coming back to haunt them.

[@sunte91]

The visuals, the storytelling... This is a top level video. Well done 👍🏻

[@davidfitzpatrick4254]

Honestly i think the royal family wanting to use magic to resurrect past loved ones (ie kings) wouldn't make sense because then the prince would never become king if u could just prevent teh king from ever dying.

[@thewardenofoz3324]

Seeing what the Royal Family was involved with, it makes me sympathetic to Ganondorf. I wonder if Hyrule's dark transformation after Ganon assumed power was mostly due to what the royals had already done. It makes me hope for a redemption arc for Ganondorf since he ain't the only one with blood on his shoes. He is a very tragic figure, and he's a rarity of his own kind being that he's a male in a vaginocentric gene pool. That said, he's no angel. He did evil and received evil as his reward. But as shown in the BotW 2 trailer, he is probably the most tormented/bound soul in all of Hyrule due to the pride and anger that he let drive his life. I'm hoping that Malice isn't his true nature. I'm hoping he's just delusional due to his misplaced pride/misguided anger. I know Ganon felt pangs of pain for his own people cuz we got to see that softer, more mature side of him in Wind Waker. And sure enough, he cared deeply for the Gerudo, knowing that were repeatedly scorched by the harsh desert winds. If the Triforce that was split between him, Link and Zelda were to come together rather than fight each other, they could probably undo the perpetual threat that Demise brought with his vow. Being that he's an imprisoned demon, Demise will always need a vessel to help carry out his will. To me, it seems like Ganon is the perfect puppet because of Ganon's strength/pride/oppressed origins. Ganon's reasons for embracing hatred makes logical sense when the past sins of the royal family are taken into consideration. Imagine if Ganondorf finally got the wherewithal to resist darkness and serve Hyrule as a partial bearer of the Triforce should. If anything, he's had his ass handed to him so many times by that green larping elf boy and his bae blade that he should be starting to have some real respect for Link by now. Like maybe even a respect enough to turn against the forces that manipulated him from within. But I dunno. In that BotW 2 trailer he just looked *royally pissed* to see Lonk and Zeldy farting around in his tomb. Maybe he's just past the point of no return. 😔

[@InvaderGIR98]

Ganondorf is a victim of Demise's curse

[@Zinkolo]

In ocarina of Time You literally drink green potions to restore magic. So yes link can use magic when he obtains it from a fairy.

[@darkmonger6244]

I curse this video.

[@tecinde3669]

RIGHT, didn’t work so well last time, did it?

[@darkmonger6244]

@@tecinde3669 But it did. You just don't know it.

[@MonsterMaze]

Damnit darkmonger!

[@kbo8029]

Man, I love seeing all these years later how dark my favorite Nintendo games as a blithe kid really were under the surface. Love it. Watching these makes me want to reply OoT