The Majora’s Mask Spider House Mystery - Zelda Theory

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[@ChaoticHoly]

Oddly or not, the masks in the Ocean Spider House bear the shapes found on playing cards - Heart, Club, Diamond, Spade - which furthers the "Alice in Wonderland" aspect of the entire game.

[@stachu5049]

I've never looked at it that way!

[@liamnehren1054]

or just another symptom of the team only having a year to make the game... probably started panicking and using any old thing they could get their hands on. It was always supposed to be an alternate Hyrule but there were supposed to be more differences in the character models for example.

[@hyrumkohler]

That puzzle was tricky! I remember it

[@aethermass]

Nintendo used to make playing cards. Probably nothing to do with this though.

[@MrMikey1981]

@@aethermass They still do!

[@ryansteiskal8960]

I always interpreted the Swamp Spider House to be a temple that was excavated by a group of some kind, hence the areas that appeared to be "under construction". The wooden areas are scaffolding similar to that seen in archaeological digs. As for the Ocean Spider House, this place is very scholarly in appearance, with the library and even the message on the door that hints to a place seeking knowledge. With all the artifacts within the house, I assume this was the place where all that was taken to the from the swamp spider house temple was kept, and brought with them, the Spider's Curse. Perhaps, the missing eye jewel from the golden spider statue could even be be found in the Ocean House, further connecting two. Whether or not this is an untold story of cult worshippers or just cursed scholars, hard to say, but I get some classic Indiana Jones/Archeological Adventure vibes from both locations.

[@liamnehren1054]

honestly that was what I thought too, the ocean house looked more designed as an ancient library/museum/storage area the spider motif there might just be to fit objects on display that they have excavated from the swamp among possible other locations cut due to the development teams famously short schedule. The main room of the swamp one on the other hand is obviously a temple with the "unfinished" rooms feeling like they were slowly excavating from that main room. The wierdest part of this whole thing is how both ancient ruins are in better condition than most other ruins in the game... even the ones in similar conditions or even better ones! suggests that the spider house members were actually better mages than most. Suggesting Hylians over humans, Gorons or either of the forest tribes of the game, sadly also the Zora since even in BOTW their amazing structure is just constantly repaired as evidenced by the opal gathering side quest.

[@corpselight7989]

This changed my mind on the idea of the two! The Ocean area has a scientist just offshore, so maybe there was some venture to the Swamp temple and they had some investigators. The curse could affect EVERYONE involved, since curses are weird and malleable with how they work based on malice or hatred. Since the studious house is more of a chamber to meet in and study, maybe a revival of some spider based belief system happened, or just a desire for treasure.

[@Sarah_H]

Which would explain why there are just...these two random coffins in the storage room of the Oceanside Spider House. Maybe they were dug up from underneath the giant tombstone in the Swamp Spider House and taken to the Oceanside Spider House for study?

[@ryansteiskal8960]

@@Sarah_H That's a pretty good observation! Kind of makes for a missed opportunity to have a gibdo roaming about the place.

[@adithya260]

Not seeing the bomb explode so many times hurt me so the ending made it all the more satisfying.

[@MonsterMaze]

Gald you stuck around until the very end haha ^^

[@SALshaNoma]

You did say that skull kid is mischievous. Maybe he found the house after it was abandoned and decided for fun to replace the photos with himself as a prank.

[@katiecat5612]

I was thinking similar. He's been alive for a long time. Why can't the house be his and he thought it would be funny to tempt and then curse people with the stuff inside?

[@SalemKFox]

The absolute madlad. Find an old cult's hiding spot, then replace its imagery with pictures of yourself and have people wonder what it could mean for all eternity. That's trolling at a different level right there.

[@theoaremevano3227]

Yeah, that was my interpretation too, especially since all the paintings are the same and looks less decrepit than other objects in the house seem to.

[@hanburgundy4317]

Same. I always thought the Skull Kid put them there himself. The witch who runs the Pictograph contest knows who the Skull Kid is, so maybe he entered at some point and - like Link - was given a free Picto Box. Makes me laugh thinking he just took a bunch of pictures of himself every time and never won the contest, and THATS why he attacked the witch.

[@Draezeth]

I suspect the pictures might have some sort of enchantment that makes it show a different picture for anyone who looks at it. I have absolutely zero leads for this, but hey, cursed object. As for why Skull Kid, well he's what Link is striving toward. They're bound by the web of fate. I dunno. It's just a thought.

[@Ninten007]

What I love about your theories is that you don't try to solve everything. You understand that if the answer is less interesting than the mystery, it's not worth answering.

[@MonsterMaze]

Thank you! The mystery itself is indeed the most exciting part ^^

[@Link-to-the-Smash]

@@MonsterMaze before the answer anyways.

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

Most mysteries are better when unsolved especially video game ones you feel more like an unsure adventurer in strange environment more so than Sherlock Holmes and his unwieldy comprehension of the world and the problems there in and unsolved means that more then likely it will be boring to figure out who, what, and why but the why seems almost self explained protect the temple looking one from thieves the one that looks more like a sea side home I don't know if we will ever properly know much about at all aside from extremely old

[@HyruleGamer]

Very nice looking thumbnail sir! Gonna watch this before having to head out for the train, brilliant timing! 🙏💪

[@MonsterMaze]

Gonna watch your new TP theory tonight as well ^^!

[@Cliffordlonghead]

I'm sorry pls unban me

[@Cliffordlonghead]

Hell0

[@Cliffordlonghead]

U do realize u just anger the admin right?

[@MonsterMaze]

@@Cliffordlonghead I'm not following.. are you talking to me, or to Hyrule Gamer?

[@PrettyLittleLiar1611]

I’m always so excited when you post a video about majoras mask :) I speak Japanese so I looked into some Japanese zelda forums about the grave in the swamp spider house and apparently it can be read as クモヤカタ　シユシン　ココニネムル　or “kumo-yakata shiyushin kokoni nemuru” which means: “those who come from the spider house sleep here”. They also mentioned that it was a rare sight to see hyrule script written top down and read right to left (like traditional Japanese) as it is usually written horizontally left to right. Note for other Japanese speakers: the forum posters mentioned that the “シユシン“ was dubious. My interpretation is that “出身” is the closest match since it makes sense contextually

[@ginton1964]

シュシン can also mean 主神 which can either mean "chief god" or the person who lead rituals during the Dazaifu jurisdiction. Which would change the stone monument's meaning to imply that it is either a monument to their deity or to one of their religious leaders. What I find dubious is if it really is シュシン or not because the latter two characters have a lot missing. I think I can see it, but the entire characters aren't there, like they had parts erased.

[@PrettyLittleLiar1611]

@@ginton1964 thanks, I think you’re right, 主神 makes more sense than 出身. It’s also more fun theory wise :) The characters do seem to be written messily on purpose though. They almost look like they’ve been written by brush stroke to me.. and that plus the reading direction point definitely strengthens the claim of how ancient these places are.

[@patrickaycock3655]

after watching this... there is only one thing you didnt touch on in relation to the skulltulla: the skulltulla tokens. they only appear AFTER a golden skulltulla is defeated/killed. the man at the ocean house will trade items for them, meaning they exist in other areas. (tangent for another day: why does that man WANT them?) tokens are generally used as a form of currency or credit for trade. no, i dont think the tokens are just "trophies" from the defeated skulltullas. the tokens must have a purpose, otherwise the man at the ocean house would not need or want them. one thing to note is that the tokens have a small flame like aura, reminiscent of souls. if the tokens contain the souls of the departed (which race's souls unknown), then that would give them great value as they could be used in some kind of ritual, possibly at the swamp house (really should be called a shrine or temple eh?). anywho... heart this comment if you see it don. if not... i may DM you later on discord about it.

[@emidemi7211]

Children who get lost in the forest also turn into Skull Kids. Maybe the houses were built by a group of Skull Kids, not necessarily the one who stole Majora's Mask. Though it's true that they don't really seem like the type to build underground temples, spiders do mostly appear in "forest" areas, like in Woodfall Temple and more notably the Lost Woods. It's not impossible that there's some connection there. The Spider Houses make for one of my favorite parts of Majora's Mask, especially in terms of gameplay, so it's cool to see them covered! There's so much to uncover in Termina.

[@HylianDan]

What always stood out most to me about the Swamp Spider House was how final room’s underground tree (with the gossip stone in front) felt like it was foreshadowing the tree inside the moon with the kid sitting in front. And the final room of the Oceanside House seems to have a falling moon motif.

[@MonsterMaze]

Oh that is indeed a nice catch! It would be awesome if it indeed turns out to be symbolic of that

[@jeanbob1481]

Possible, both of them have serious religious undertones. Religion in Termina is most likely linked to the moon so this spider house must have been some kind of heretic doomsday group that wished for the moon to fall. They have to hide from other humans so they build their temple of worship near the zoras and near the dekus. Oceanside being the place they lived and the Swamp place being some kind or worshipping place.

[@pustota7254]

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[@tristemsaris7739]

When I was a kid I was facinated by the ocean spider house and thought it was very homey and pretty. So much so I actually drew an expanded version of it with a few additional floors and bedrooms.

[@MonsterMaze]

Wow no kidding? That's amazing! It does have a very cozy vibe to it ^^

[@monroerobbins7551]

Honestly, that’s a mood, and really cool. :)

[@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450]

It does seem like it could be very nice to live in.

[@patrickaycock3655]

6:36 id really like to know why that skulltulla is moonwalking. this is a mystery that needs solving. it is imperative to the lore

[@Titin-oz6jh]

Small thing but Hirake probably just refers to opening the door. It can be used like this in Japanese at least.

[@MonsterMaze]

Ah gotcha. it's a bit of an obvious thing to put on a door, but it's definitely why it could be on there

[@moldomre4838]

That intro just makes me love Majora's Mask even more. I'd love to watch just a video of different Termina landscapes with the Song of Healing playing in the background. Very cool.

[@Mitzi_DelverVRC]

I cracked up at the foundations shaking from the bomb. Good show, mate

[@Mitzi_DelverVRC]

@@thatname260ye Yeah, but the timing in the edit was brilliant

[@setteplays]

I love discussions about obscure topics like these! I never think about the environments and videos like this show me how much nintendo cared about a narrative, even if a loose and obtuse one. If you ever find the inspiration to do it, I'd love to hear (and see these gorgeous visuals) you talking about the Oracles games and even Four Swords Adventures (there are a lot of obscure lore details there).

[@MonsterMaze]

Oh yeah I usually am quite oblivious to the environment as well when I first play games, haha. It isn't until some time later that I go back and see everything interesting I missed. I'm definitely looking to cover more 2D zelda games. Only doing 3D games will no doubt get stale. The Oracle games also happen to be one of my favourites! ^^

[@setteplays]

@@MonsterMaze I'm not against 3D only too, especially when you bring topics like this one.

[@phelpsnodt5856]

@@setteplays We play too focused on the mechanics and grinding. I'm totally oblivious to these elements prior to some youtuber making videos about them as well. xD

[@Casual_PKBeats]

What I really love about Zelda games in general is that freedom to come up with the lore behind settings. It really mimics that idea of stumbling upon some ancient, hidden location. At some point, it'll be practically impossible to piece together its origin exactly, so just viewing it as its own piece of isolated lore and history and appreciating the culture and set pieces is still insanely interesting and really helps build the world even more. Loved the video!

[@oittisallen4057]

This is a good theory research. My kids love to watch the spider house guys waving their hands up and down. Similar to the guy in Ocarina that loves to trade stuff. The guy just slaps his knees continuously.

[@JazzyWaffles]

17:49 the first three characters on the left are almost definitely "kokoni", the second(?) character in the second column appears to be "yu", and I think the last symbols on the third column look like "eta", so it's almost certainly written in the Hylian script from the original versions of OoT and MM (before a bunch of it was replaced with Wind Waker's Hylian script). >kokoni(?)(?)(?) >(?)yu(?) >(?)(?)(?)eta "Koko ni" is "Here (object marker)", and "-eta" sounds like the ending of a verb to me, so maybe this is a common or stereotypical Japanese gravestone inscription transcribed in Hylian? Something along the lines of "Here lies a friend", or something like that?

[@AldinWright]

Since it's translated into kanji I imagine it is supposed to be read from right to left so the last column is actually the first

[@robinisoffline2817]

Still enjoying every single video you put out. The footage alone makes me appreciate the beauty, creativity and mystery behind this game so much. For the longest time I was convinced that OOT would remain my all time favourite videogame, but MM is definitely the most captivating.We'll never see a Zelda game like this again. I believe your conclusion about mystery and not knowing goes for the entire game. As we and Majora's Mask grow older, the story and the world in which it takes place seem to increase in space for philosophy and other question marks.

[@annagarlicjaws]

I don’t think I realized how beautiful Majora’s Mask 3D looks until I saw this video. I’ll have to play it again and appreciate the textures & scenery more! Great video, as always!

[@FreedomAndPeaceOnly]

Ocarina of Time & Majoras Mask both gave me unique feelings for the first time as a Gamer. Praise the nostalgia. \ [T] /

[@maddyhodges63]

I think it's neat that the masks in the dining room have the different suits from a typical pack of cards. Four suits, four masks, four giants? Hmmm...

[@TheCreepyLantern]

i always assumed the pictures were hanging there because the Curse was yet another thing he did with Majora's power

[@MonsterMaze]

I thought that too at first. But whenever you find an obstacle in the game related to him, it has an icon of Majora on it. Like on blocks and balloons etc. Not a pic of Skull Kid.

[@no1guy825]

@@MonsterMaze this flows nicely with the ancient chaos that Majora probably reaked upon Termina before he was imprisoned in the mask.

[@Kazooples]

I like to think Skullkid snuck in and changed the paintings to photos of himself, probably with a stolen picto box, it seems like something he’d do.

[@Arrowz_88]

But when Link arrives, the house is walled up. Link has to blow up the wall. 💣 🧱

[@Kazooples]

@@Arrowz_88 you think skullkid can't get into a house with Majora's mask without blowing up a wall? That kids got secret powers we can't fathom, he could be in my kitchen right now and I'd never know

[@Arrowz_88]

@@Kazooples The wall was not blown up at all though. It had been sealed off long before Link entered the house.

[@Kazooples]

@@Arrowz_88 There could be a back entrance we don't see in game, it's just a fun idea not a serious theory

[@Grencye2]

@@Arrowz_88 Or he could just phase through. Or maybe he's the one who sealed up the wall? @Kazooples, definitely thought the same exact thing lol. That he claimed the house as his own for a little bit before getting bored of it.

[@Thatturtlethatsaysmeanthings]

2:21 “iS ThAt A zONaI SwIRL!?!?”

[@TheForestFaye]

I think we are ignoring an important detail: spider infested places are signs of abandonment. There are japanese folklore that revolve around not taking care of your possessions and of abandoned buildings. The fact that Hirake is found on the decaying doors of the Great Bay Spider house is also meaningful in some why: maybe its curse comes from this "a closed/decaying building forced to be open/improved" since spiders build they could be seen as the ones improving it. Where in the Swamp Spider house that is a shrine, it is a place of worship where no one worships, these spiders could have brought "the curse" as they are now the occupants of the shrine, they are the ones who give the shrine purpose; their curse is a defense one not a malice one.

[@nickcrook4663]

Good stuff. Unique Zelda theories seem to be in short supply these days. If you’re looking for more material, I have an in depth theory about how and why the mummified corpse in the BOTW2 trailer is really…. Groose. Keep up the good work. It helps to have something to keep me entertained until we get some more news on the new game. Cheers

[@MonsterMaze]

Mummified Groose confirmed!

[@SevoraLF]

You and Zeltik make the best Zelda content on KZbin, a tier above the rest. Keep it up and early congrats on 100,000 subscribers

[@MonsterMaze]

Aah thank you! That means a lot to hear. Zeltik is an insanely good creator ^^

[@KestralKuthule]

Those four coloured masks have the symbols of playing card groups. One of the games you can play with playing cards is spider solitaire. Coincidence. I think not.

[@lanasmith4795]

But Spider Solitaire is not a four-player game

[@KestralKuthule]

@@lanasmith4795 it's an isolated solitary location though. Plus given the references to Skull kid who was left alone by his four friends..

[@KUMAKURA]

I bit my tongue laughing at Link putting a bomb next to the masked dude. The mark of excellent comedy lmao

[@professorhazard]

To me, the architectural secrecy and pomp combined with the card suits on the masks implies to me that this was a society of gamblers, like highest stakes possible yakuza types. Heads of four families meet at the four chairs, that sort of thing. Maybe they're all from outside Termina and they have a picture of the Skull Kid as he looked when they met him, though it may have been over many decades.

[@jessica-ov6js]

I always enjoy your theory videos 💕 They have a beginning, the history - a middle, what happend - and an ending, your thoughts on it. Always with images or videos. I just love your way of making videos, you spoil us 😁

[@staretimecomics]

Played this game, beat it a few times. Never occurred to me how truly SINCERELY creepy the silent young man in the field is. Only visible from the telescope. A ghost? Nah, those aren't real. Creepy.

[@monroerobbins7551]

One theory I had was that the people who were in those houses were studying what happened so long ago. That would explain the four mask imagery, and why they would have the skull kid’s portrait on the wall; he’s the imp from legend. As for the spider imagery, A) the golden spiders were probably a really fascinating point of study, and B) it’s creepy. Creepy enough to symbolize both a manipulative cult, and creepy enough to keep other people out, since… well, they’d be skeeved. That was my theory as a kid, anyway.

[@TheNN]

Going on the notion of the ocean-side spider house being more 'homely', perhaps the idea about the group who made it potentially knowing about the Skull Kid bringing down the moon, so they made it, not for themselves, but for those in the future. As you said, the group isn't necessarily 'evil', so this could've been a place meant more for hope. After all the place seems to have everything a person could need to rebuild society after 'the end'. The only problem being that nobody who knew about it survived until the present day in Termina, and even then only one random guy happens across it at all, and only THEN if you clear the place out to begin with.

[@AtomicToyRobot]

I love how theory channels don't actually look into the games before making comments about them. When it comes to the House of Skulltula in OoT the family was cursed due to the Spiders Curse which is only broken by destroying all 100 gold Skulltula. The family was greedy and by assumption would try to seek out the Gold Skulltula to increase their wealth thus cursing them. Not because they went digging for something with the stone of agony. The stone of agony only reacts to chests not Gold Skulltulas the two are unrelated. Aside the comment of "I find it unlikely that two different disconnected groups of people who both have some sort of spider obsession" Right because in the real world there's no evidence of different cultures or groups of people who make similar yet culturally different architecture. The Pyramids found in Latin America were obviously constructed by the same people that made the Pyramids in Eygpt and Indonesia. Like come on man.

[@Paradox-xm9zq]

The oceanside spider house is one of my favorite areas in the series when it comes to atmosphere. It's so mysterious

[@chiffmonkey]

Trying to pigeonhole Termina into a literal connection with Hyrule is missing the point of the entire Legend of Zelda series. It was never about what literally happens. It's about the journeys taken, the revelations about shadow, persona and self, the relationships between characters across multiple incarnations, the stages in a person's life, parallels drawn in far flung places making clearer what is happening close to home. It's archetypal, not literal. Psychological, not physical. A waking dream, not a video diary. Ideas, not canon. The clearest way of seeing this is in just how much symbolism from across different cultures and media is tied in to the worldbuilding of these games, attempting to form new symbolic vocabulary through combination and their own additions. For example, the Kokiri and Koroks are the same despite drawing from completely different ideas from outside the franchise - Peter Pan and Yokai respectively. The creators aren't holding back information from the audience, they're on an exploratory journey themselves and have no idea where it leads - the road only visible in the rear-view mirror - I'd argue that Ocarina of Time was built as a time capsule to see how players would respond to the game first playing it as a child, then again as an adult. Majora's Mask follows on from this as a game that can only truly be appreciated by a returning adult who can see just how much they are like Tingle, the nostalgic man who makes maps of adolescence and looks like a fool in the process. He just so happens to be the same age as the Zelda franchise is this year.

[@gabrielshishido9965]

Damn, now this is a very beautiful way of seeing this series. Thanks sir, your comment sure was a nice read

[@chiffmonkey]

@@gabrielshishido9965 One extra note I just wanted to add - Tingle is probably better understood and appreciated by the Japanese because the idea of adult regression to childhood is quite a well known cultural phenomenon for outcasts there, called "hikikomori". The west instead is seeing it happen to entire generations, invisibly, because it is simply seen as normal.

[@lasercraft32]

6:33 I love this part. The way you can hear the bomb explode muffled and dust falls from the ceiling in the next scene is perfection. XD

[@draconianfire]

you know what? i think they started in the ocean house, got rich through dog racing, and started building the swamp house. that's why it's so ornate. love the vid.

[@TheAntesse]

It seems odd that there's only two spider houses and not four. Everything is in fours, in balance. I wonder if there was originally supposed to be four, one in each quadrant, but then two got cut. If so, I'd think that maybe it was a group of four friends who visited each other in their respective homes.

[@ianbutler24]

Maybe the four giants were once "human" the equivalent of the Hyrulian sages and that the spider religion was started from a slinter group from the people who created the stone tower. They left because they saw that The Tower was dark and malicious but as they gathered knowledge and practiced magic trying to guide the people of Termina and they created something like a Triforce, maybe the tower finished developing a weapon or artifact that would ultimately result in the fall of Termina so without much time to prepare they used the artifact to help give them the ability to "create" Termina which ultimately led them to changing into lesser deities which guided the people of Termina effectively creating the region not physical from the ground up but from a civilization similar to how Hylia guided the people of Hyrule. The curse could be a byproduct of not preparing the ritual correctly as we have all seen in previous Zelda games on what happens why you mess up a ceremony or spell. It'd also explain the skullkid photos everywhere a regret or maybe a failed attempt at divinity? But anyways I hope what I wrote made sense but I loved the video I always look forward to them.

[@funnygermandoctor]

Maybe the group have pictures of the Skull Kid because they knew what he did or was about to do, and so they were planning cursing him trying to lure him into their on-purpose-build fancy bases. Since the Skull Kid liked to steal and rob stuff, they figured he would check the places out. Damn my english is crap

[@dany_fg]

"screw photosynthesis I suppose" at 07:57 has to be my favorite line here

[@Zeldahol]

Monster Maze, the aliens created Termina, and built the spider houses. That's why they needed milk. You see, Gorman was out of it, the aliens bribed him to steal the zora eggs and sell them to the pirates. Self sabotage.... but the aliens still got their milk.

[@mickkelley3776]

"Hirake" in this case likely means "to be opened up" as, you know, it's a door.

[@SonicJrandSarah]

I certainly can believe that the Ocean Spider House could have been somebody's home once. Maybe a home that got buried under the ground at some point.

[@Ninjaananas]

I always liked Spider Houses and the mystique around them. And I like their architecture.

[@psychogoreman198]

Freakin’ love the Skulltula’s, even have one tattooed on my hand!

[@perr0263]

What's the "secret code" to enter the secret room behind the fireplace?

[@capricontra]

While I can´t say much about the ocean spider house, I do have a theory concerning the swamp house. My favorite zelda boss in terms of fun and stupidity has always been Odolwa. The moment I saw him and heard his sounds, I couldn´t help but pause the game and laugh. But aside from that, I always felt like the bosses from Majoras Mask had a bigger meaning to them. They seem so perfectly connected to their surroundings that they can´t be created by Majora only. Maybe they once were ancient beings that lived in Termina alongside the other tribes. Especially Odolwa seems to be a king who controls his own army of bugs, dragonflies, spiders and so on. I believe that he once used the spider house as some kind of treasure house or even lived there. Since Woodfall temple seems to have been built by the Deku tribe, I belive that Odolwa once inhabited the spider house and his army, that we see around and inside the house were guardians. The stone could be his grave and he simply got resurrected by Majora who used his face/mask as a prison for the giant of the swamp. I don´t know if this sounds plausible but I always thought about Odolwas role in the swamp area. Maybe I get some kind of agreement or additions

[@Infernalisk]

In The Majora's Mask Manga's there's a story explaining the origins of the Majora's Mask.I don't know whether it's canon or not but it says that a long time ago in some ruins in a desert there was a dragon who had this magic armour and everyone wanted a little bit of it,then this guy appears and tricks the monster into killing itself.He then carves a piece of the armour into the shape of a Mask. The mask is the majora's mask,the guy probably represents The Fierce Deity and the dragon could be the spirit inside the mask itself.As for the desert area I believe that it's the stone tower temple,just before its construction.There's a lot of Mask symbolism in there come to think of it so I suspect it was built to strengthen the seal on the mask.The people who created it were the ancestors to the Garo who arrived from a portal in the surrounding area.They would quite likely use the place with all the strange cut outs hanging down as some sort of shrine or hideout and it would've served them well during the battle between them and The Ikana Kingdom! That's my theory on this anyway!

[@astery5410]

Unfortunately the mangas are not canon but that's still interesting

[@Infernalisk]

@@astery5410 Thank you!

[@hiddendesire3076]

11:32 Except that Majora’s Mask uses a similar motif for the eyes as the Fused Shadow Mask which was made by the Twili. Even the Ikana and Garo are similar to the dynamic of the Royal Hyrulian Family and the Yiga, whose leader oddly enough uses the same fight style as the Garo’s leader.

[@AH-ph3cb]

I find it HYLIAN-likely. i'll leave...

[@Tesseract95]

Wow the color in this game blow my mind

[@kavius8215]

Just a random thought, but what if the reason they have the paintings of skull kid is because they were studying the curse of the lost woods that gave him immortality(if skull kids are just children that get lost in the woods)? They may have wanted to try to reproduce the immortality effect without losing their memories or minds and ended up making the spider's cure. Another possibility is that they were trying to find a way to reverse the curse on skull kid, and they decided that the best way to do that was to figure out how curses worked in general. This study led to the creation of the spiders curse. Just a theory.

[@HavocHounds1988]

What if the ocean house is more like a school of some sort?

[@edwardmorvan5809]

I love your videos, they're so well made. Thank you for your work!

[@MonsterMaze]

And thank you for watching them!

[@vincenthartzell5391]

Maybe they are the gold skulltula? that would explain why you had to defeat them and collect their souls to break the curse (ya know by killing the casters). their reason for doing all this was they're a crazy cult. (But that last part makes it less fun.)

[@danwg3368]

Any video that goes into something about Majora's Mask that hasn't already been talked about a million times is quite welcome by me. Loved it!

[@gamingchinchilla7323]

In my current playthrough of The Minish Cap I've noticed that there are four masks in the Mayor's house that seem similar to the masks in the Spider House here in Majora's Mask. I'm not sure if you can make any connections there (maybe not) but I thought I'd make a mention here for good measure.

[@MonsterMaze]

Oh that is interesting. Gonna have to find a screenshot of that!

[@gamingchinchilla7323]

@@MonsterMaze I posted a reply with a link but I dont think KZbin's censorship program took too kindly to that :P I found an image of the mayor's house interior showing two masks on the wall on a shelf serving as an obstacle for Minish Link. The only resemblance that I see now that I am looking at them are the fact that they are wall ornaments and they are red and blue like the masks in the spider house as seen in your video. There probably definitely isn't any connections... but yeah. hope I'm not wasting your time here xD

[@WagnerSandr0]

I'm 44 years old, I played all the link games except the new ones, I even played majors, I never cared about anything, but in majors, I tried to do everything 100% and see what I had with all the characters in the 3 days, but what traumatized me, Was it purposely losing to the UFOs, and seeing in the end, the girl hallucinated, disturbed, what did they do to her in the abduction? Was she abused with those probes in that part of the body?

[@Tahkaullus01]

6:34 Ah, I see Link has taken to the ways of the Garo.

[@TwistedMecha]

I'm surprised more people haven't talked about these houses. I'd forgotten about them...

[@Wolffman109]

Who else wants us to return to Termina?

[@johnwright2217]

Skull kid paintings in the ocean house are interesting. The four masks in the "conference" room look like the giants, and we know that both are REALLY old.

[@mewstubes]

i think my favourite part of the zelda franchise are the ancient locations and backstories, playing zelda games and finding areas such as the spider houses or zonai statues from botw that provide lore in a way that doesn't fully explain everything is always such aunique experience that give this very strange melancholic sense of mystery that no other franchise can really replicate. it may be due to the darker tone of zelda games but the theories surrounding them have always intrigued me and this theory is an especially good one nice work.

[@jonlusty764]

Locations more ancient than Ikana, with spaces that seem dedicated to mysyical rituals. Could be the tribe that used Majora's mask. But also ... 4 masks, 4 empty chairs, 4 guardians associated with masks now absent, and paintings of the Skull Kid in places of honor ... or fondness. Am I the only one who heard that and immediately thought of the 4 Giants? Perhaps from back before they were Giants or Guardians. Think about it. The Zelda timelines are full of beings who transform in shape and size, full of immortal beings who became mortal (Hylia became Zelda, for example) and mortal beings who achieved a kind of immortality or at least longevity somehow (Ganondorf for one, so many ghosts, Impa and other Sheikah figures, etc.). It isn't that much of a stretch. Besides, I've always thought it didn't make a ton of sense for Skull Kid to have been friends with and played with figures literally taller than a city. But if they used to be Hylian-sized, or thereabouts ...

[@MAZZ0Murder]

2:16 - OH MAH GAWD, ARE THOSE ZONAI SWIRLS? :P I never really gave either too much thought... so these are certainly interesting theories!

[@AnachronisticALLOS2401]

I always found the Oceanside Spider House interesting; once I tried to remake it in the Source Engine. My attempt is... rough, I could probably do it a bit better if I tried again now.

[@MonsterMaze]

It's definitely a location that's interesting enough to recreate ^^

[@Xorcrupt]

I imagine it would make for a cool gmod map!

[@MimickFox]

Go for it, my dude.

[@sheimr1882]

The masks on the wall at 13:27 also have symbols depicted on them. They look like those from playing cards, as in poker and alike. I don't know if this is relevant though, but it's a neat little detail.

[@wrennethestoner]

4 chairs. 4 giants, a bunch of pics of skull kid, who we know was friends with the giants. They're after enlightenment or personal growth, so maybe they weren't always giants? Hm, weird.

[@MonsterMaze]

They do say that the giants once "lived among the people". How does a creature THAT huge live among regular sized people? Maybe they did take on a human form at some point. Great idea ^^

[@wrennethestoner]

@@MonsterMaze maybe the whole idea of becoming a giant is a metaphor for achieving enlightenment?

[@MonsterMaze]

@@wrennethestoner I think the 4 giants really are.. well.. giants so to speak. But as we've seen many times before in Zelda, deities and spirit beings can change their appearances to suit certain situations. So I wouldn't be surprised that they could've passed themselves of as human-like beings too ^^ And yeah I agree, if they are indeed deities, they would definitely be enlightened!

[@lagiacrush3882]

Prob some of the highest quality MM footage you can find. Mad respect.

[@danielowen926]

I was 12 when this game first came out. Me and my best friend would watch his older brother play this game. I finally saved up for a used N64 from the pawn shop and the 1st game I bought was ocarina of time when I was 14 and have become obsessed with ocarina of time and majoras mask ever since. One thing I remember back when we used to watch him play the game is there was an NPC standing next to the door inside the skulltula house on the right side. It wasn't any of the 5 cursed spiders but someone else. Has anyone else seen this??

[@colegriffiths5971]

Ok, just watching this many Zelda theory’s has convinced me that majoras mask is the most Zelda game. Not my favorite, and it being the best is arguable, but there is not a single aspect of the game that doesn’t fit the vibe perfectly. It’s all very strange, creepy, sad and crazy, and I don’t think a single other game has succeeded in staying as true to its style as MM. it’s the most game out there, and because of that there isn’t a time when I think about it that doesn’t interest me greatly. Its as bizarrely perfect a vibe as the game itself

[@jessica-ov6js]

16:00 I just noticed the colors of the 4 masks. Red, blue, green, yellow. They can refer to the Triforce. Green courage, red power, blue wisdom, and yellow or gold to the Triforce itself.

[@SunScourge]

Or the four giants; green swamp, red mountains, blue ocean, yellow canyon. Shooting ('disrespecting') them being the key to the hidden room ties into the revered Skull Kid theme perhaps?

[@jessica-ov6js]

@@SunScourge oh yeah the colors could indeed be referring to those parts of the map with the giants 👍

[@danielsales442]

got a much less interesting theory. Look closely and you'll see the playing cards suits (heart, spade, diamond and club). Seems like instead of having cult meetings there these guys just loved playing some poker

[@connorgross3410]

13:57 I think that time passes differently between Termina and Hyrule kinda like a Narnia thing, and Skull Kid is unaffected by it. When he was originally banished from Termina by the Giants he might have been in Hyrule for a relatively short amount of time but centuries had passed in Termina, which shows why he’s present in the Ocean Spider House and Granny’s story about the Giants but is also in the Lost Woods during the child years of OoT and the prologue of MM.

[@MrMyers758]

It makes more sense to me that the temple was there originally, and much later people who discovered it came to worship at it and styled their own home around the designs. Sort of like a Lovecraft-esque style cult who discovers old ruins and begins to worship the spider deity, and so constructs their regular life around the ideology. There's no real justification given by you as to why the people who built the western styled Victorian gothic horror house would decide to build a temple based around a style as disparate as classic Chinese architecture. They are quite obviously meant to represent two different constructors and cultures. That combined with the fact the monolith in the temple matches neither of the styles, it seems to actually be a 3 layered thing. The room where the monolith or tomb is, looks like an excavation site. It has scaffolding, a ladder and storage crates in where the rest of the temple is ornate. So it is possible that there was an ancient civilisation who built the tomb, and then it was uncovered by a later civilisation who were constructing a temple to their spider god (and having unearthed it, were cursed with the object of their own worship; spiders), and then that temple is later discovered by an group or family exploring the swamps, who become so fascinated or maybe even affected by the curse, that they form a cult around what they discovered and begin to fashion their house with spider aesthetics. All of the different artefacts in the store room might not be signals that they are in a cult and searching for artefacts to gain power, but that they are explorers who collect artefacts who's quest to find objects of value led them to the spider temple and into the hands of the curse. This seems far more likely than a group of people forming a spider cult, building a house in one cultural style, then travelling half way across the world to build a temple in a completely different cultural style, only to later build a tomb in a completely different style to the other two things they built.

[@ahcangela8549]

I have a theory that the Skulltula Houses aren't real buildings that were ever used by people at all, I think they're actually the nests of the skulltulas themselves; literally the skulltulas' house. Skulltulas themselves seem to be semi-supernatural creatures, so it might not be that much of a reach to imagine that these houses are metaphorical "webs" built to trap their human prey. Instead of ensnaring bugs with sticky silk, they build environments that would entice greedy humans, like mysterious temples to loot or houses full of treasure. When they're drawn in, the human victims are trapped inside by the skulltulas' curse. Based on how the cursed humans look, it may even be that this is how they make more skulltulas, which would make the skulltula house part of their lifecycle.

[@DuelScreen]

Perhaps this was a demo area created by one of the programmers. Ultimately it wasn't used for the town or a dungeon or the story but it was kept for a side quest. Like most good creators, the Majora's Mask developers probably kept trying to pack more and more into the game before they had to ship it.

[@Marcosberto2]

Fun answers only please!

[@DuelScreen]

@@Marcosberto2 OK. What if the ocean house was where the giants used to live when they were younger (and smaller). Playing cards was a favorite pastime. Perhaps they simply outgrew the place. Have you seen the size of that gravestone And they had pictures on the wall of their favorite friend. Or he magicked all of the photos in the house to be himself as a prank at some point.

[@linkhail6849]

I’m sad no one ever questions the DS titles of Zelda. Like, Phantom Hourglass is fairly straightforward, it was all a world made up by the Ocean King, but Spirit Tracks, if you think about it, the ocean shoreline was probably much lower than it is in game considering the gods made the ocean rise 100 years prior to Spirit Tracks (approximately the same time Byrne left the Tower of Spirits). If the ocean was lower before the events of Spirit Tracks, what is the Ocean Realm then? Most of the sacred places we go to in game have likely been there for a long time, so it makes me wonder if the Ocean Realm was just the Sand Realm and when the ocean rose up, the Lokomo were probably like, “Alrighty then my peoples, I guess we’re gonna build a new temple and such to respect another Spirit we must’ve never had any idea about-“ Or was the Ocean Realm just elsewhere and with their magical divine Lokomo powers just moved some of their own structures to a new spot?? And what if Malladus was a good spirit once too but got banished, causing the Dark Realm to turn into a haven of demons kinda like with what happened to Lorule? It kinda makes sense since all the realms seem to be relative to (maybe) a spirit, with the temples probably being a place of worship or something. I just got so many questions cuz I feel like Phantom Hourglass was explained a little more than Spirit Tracks, and ngl, Spirit Tracks does have some pretty decent background as far as the story goes. Maybe one day that world could be delved into by a “professional” theorizer, or even multiple. Also nice vid, Majora’s Mask is probably one of my favorites, and the Spider Houses are really intriguing. Maybe something like these will appear again one day.

[@DarknessGuard]

Well, I'll have some fun with this idea: Maybe they were an evil cult worshiping a secret, fifth giant who was an evil giant spider thingy possible even an off-shoot of the Majora Cult. We will never know but you're welcome to make your own theories and fan fictions based on that. Fun idea 2: Wasn't incomplete Calamity Ganon from Breath of the Wild also some gross, mutated spider being? (I don't intend to check because I don't care enough for BotW so I go solely on possible wrong memory) and all the way here the first ideas for it shone through? I'm sure someone cares enough to correct me regarding Calamity Ganon if I'm wrong.

[@nicholasdaisyawesomeness1291]

Plot twist: Since the Four Giants still thought of Skull Kid as a friend, what if they threatened to kill him, but instead of killing them, they banished him...to save the Skull Kid? What if killing him would break the curse and redeem the Skull Kid? What if they knew Skull Kid was innocent, and forgave him, and tried to kill the Skull Kid to free him from Majora? A theory that I believe in says that when they banished the Skull Kid, they hadn't forgot about the Skull Kid, *still thought of him as a friend,* and cared about his wellbeing. In fact, they were trying to HELP the Skull Kid!

[@tallmyster1323]

*puts bomb down beside scared guy, goes to different room.* "The only other aspect about the curse worth mentioning is-" *muffled boom, dust falls from ceiling.* "-Luckily, similar to Ocarina of Time, there is a cure." Mhm, yup, there sure is a cure!

[@ZeldaboyOG]

Okay so here is a random string of semi-coherent thoughts. The spider houses are a secret seemingly sinister places. One contains a meeting place that has the 4 different masks and artifacts and one has a sinister opulent temple with spiders in it. Both are cursed. Okay there are also four kingdoms, and four giants. Red Hearts is Woodfall, Blue Spades is Great Bay, Yellow Diamonds is Ikana, and Green Clubs is Snowpeak. Reference their respective Great Fairies. There are four boss masks that imprison the giants and are perfectly designed to defeat their respective race in the kingdom they're in. You still following? Okay so four boss masks for four giants. That's eight which is also the number of legs that a spider has. Spiders which also represent curses in these games. It can also represent opposing forces or ideals to Kidness, Courage, Wisdom, and Power. So what else is a curse, a mask, an opposing force, and has 8 things that have the colors red, blue, yellow, and green? Majora's Mask. The eight bottom spikes are those 4 colors. Okay keep following. Now Majora's Mask also has two off-white horns that sit above the eight four colored spikes. Eight spikes representing opposing ideals each color having their own opposite. Each biome in its opposed state when you arrive. Poisoned swamp, endless winter, turbulent ocean, uhh zombies I guess. Okay now what two off-white opposing things rest high above those four things which also represent the forest, ocean, desert, and mountains? The sun and moon. Almost there. So we've seen the guardians of the four terrestrial domains. Where are the two celestial guardians? The moon is hollow and possessed by Majora's power. The moon representing the night and darkness, which is normally balanced by day and light. In this world ruled by the now imbalanced power of the moon. There is a poisonous miasma filling the swamp, one that could be evaporated by the sun. Endless winter without the warmth of spring. Dark storm clouds cover the ocean. The dead who fear the light roam freely in the desert canyon. All signs showing the power of the sun's influence is missing. Something has broken this balance and sealed their power just like the giants before. So Link's true goal isn't just to restore balance to the world, but reunite the balance of the heaven similar to uniting the Sun and Moon masks to create the Couple's Mask. For real almost there. So as for where they sun and moon are sealed. The Fierce Deity is well a Diety that is Fierce. It also is represented by the moon on its chest and has pure white eyes of someone who is blind or living in darkness. It's power of darkness rivals if not completely overpowers that of Majora. However sealing the embodiment of night and darkness with dark power doesn't seem like it would weaken it. However darkness would weaken the light. Which is where Majora's Mask comes in. Majora after being weakened and if you helped everyone there is to help down below gives you seemingly the only thing that can defeat it. You fight Majora inside the moon in a room covered in suns. Like a solar eclipse where the moon seemingly swallows the sun. The spikes on Majora's Mask even look like the corona of the eclipsed sun. Once Majora is defeated and the end credits roll you see a rainbow streaking across the sky. This being the return of the light. This light and dark balance and opposition theme is seen throughout. The uniting of the Sun and Moon masks. The separation of Tatl the light fairy and Tael the dark fairy. The Stone Tower Temple swapping the heavens and the earth. Oh yeah. So anyway I think the spider houses were created by the mask cult that created the masks to seal the giants and the sun and moon deities. The Stone Tower Temple was also probably built by them using the power of the Giant's Mask. As someone had to create the Giant's Mask and it seems like a test run for harnessing the power of the Giant's which they did. Also the temple seems like a test run for conquering the heavens. If one cannot ascend up to the heavens why not drag it down so one must only fall into it. They even have the statue at the entrance pointing up as an inside joke because once the Temple is activated it is now pointing below to the bottomless pit that was the sky. Rhe Happy Mask Salesman is probably the last of this Mask cult. Similar to how the Twili broke off from the Sheikah they may have formed their own dark cult around the power of masks. He has the power to ease the suffering of spirits with the Song of Healing and allow them to leave their shell behind in the form of a mask. He also could sense the happiness of the masks that you carry. That or he is wicked evil and he made you seal the soul of Darunia and Mikau trapping them similar to how the giants were. He did seem pretty disappointed you freed the evil from Majora's Mask. Plus in OoT the Spooky Mask is carved from a coffin and us the same mask Redeads wear. The Skull Mask looks straight up evil, and the Deku Scrubs say it looks like their "Sacred Forest Totem". These are the same scrubs that also worship Gohma who is also a spider (HAH bet you didn't think I'd bring that back), and help invade Koriki Forest after their queen kills the Great Deku Tree the forest's guardian. They also guard the outside of the Forest Temple which also houses a certain evil phantom that has a similar skull mask. Who is to say the Zora, Goron, Gerudo, and Keaton masks aren't beings he used the "Song of Healing" on. More the the Song of Sealing if you ask me. Anyway this is all to say I think my friends finally finished robbing your house while I distracted you with this.

[@nerdiboy5128]

I'm not 100% certain... in fact, I have very little evidence to back it up... but I have a theory about the weird, wooden, heart-shaped objects in the waterfall shrine. They bear an awfully close resemblance to the Majora Mask which sets off the events of the story and threatens to destroy Termina, and the area you find them in (a hidden, dark cave that allows you to re-fight the mini-bosses of the various temples) sparked something in my mind, upon remembering the supposed 'uses' of the Mask by the Ancient Tribe, mainly as a tool for casting powerful hexes and curses, as well as the fact that it was 'sealed in shadow.' The Ikana Canyon and Ikana Kingdom are both very incontrovertibly 'cursed,' affected by the punishment of undeath and never being able to rest or find peace, forever lurching throughout the land that was once their home, turned now into a blighted wasteland where nothing can grow or live again. Plus, the Shrine is a 'shadowy' place, eerily silent, save for the Ghost Hunter who greets you when you first arrive in Ikana Canyon, who cryptically and creepily mentions that there are 'others who wish to see you again.' And it's undoubtably possible that Majora, acting through the Skull Kid, made it worse... _BUT_ , what if Majora's influence went back even further than the events of Link's arrival in Termina? What if the Shrine was the area where the Ancient Tribe performed their hexing rituals? And the hanging facsimiles of Majora's Mask were hung to indicate that this was the place where it was stored in preparation for these rituals, perhaps either to placate the spirit in the mask somewhat, making it more agreeable to its usage by the Tribe by 'venerating' it in a way, or maybe to contain its evil, as they seem to keep the mini-bosses within from leaving the shrine, similar to how ofuda paper or ema plaques found in Shinto shrines are sometimes used to ward off and seal evil magic. There's already talk amongst some that the Waterfall Shrine, along with Sakon's Hideout, have similar architecture, and were perhaps used as hideouts by the Garo Ninja in their War Against Ikana. What if the whole reason the Canyon was cursed was because the Garo found and used the power of Majora's Mask to try and end the war by any means necessary and, just to show extra spite to the People of Ikana, resurrected them from the dead, and forbade them from knowing peace even in death? As for how THEY ended up becoming undead, well, once the Mask fulfilled _their_ desire, it decided to act on its own and turned against the Garo who foolishly thought they could wield it, and cursed them as a final middle finger to the Garo, to keep the war going indefinitely, because as we know from the base game, Majora is a demon-type entity that delights in spreading suffering and chaos wherever it goes, and it isn't above letting people believe its just a simple mask with no will of its own, manipulating them into committing evil, and abandoning them once it grows bored with it's current puppet, leaving the 'puppet' to take the blame for its machinations, as we see it do to Skull Kid.

[@Ender-Beats]

What a dark and wonderful game that Majora's Mask is... I feel it got a delayed appreciation and respect in recent times, and that makes me happy 😊 Edit: Well done with the bit with the bomb 😂

[@TerribleInThOriginal]

"who's to say these people didn't have good intentions?" they DO turn people into spiders. Like, maybe they thought that was chill, but they do definitely turn people into spiders. (also, I am of the mind that the images of skullkid aren't for worshipping. He just likes photobombing things.)

[@adecree]

You said the carpet in the secret room behind the fireplace was circular, however it's actually an octagon - 8 equal sides or 4 sides with 4 open spaces...... As you said potentially a ceremonial room of some kind? Also it always struck me as peculiar Majora's mask was heart shaped but like an evil heart 💜 Also, 4 giants - 4 ornate masks - 4 seats at the table.... I think your answer lies in finding that missing 4th spider 🕷️

[@elliotlevy8610]

In watching your video, I feel that rather than unfinished, the swamp house just looks buried. In fact both of them do, which might give some context to their age. They are so old that the structures became buried underground, with only portions of them remaining or later investigations unearthing them. The tomb and the like might have originally been outdoors.

[@Thenewbagman]

You can explain everything in Majora's mask by following Bertrand Russell's Five minutes Hypotesis without going so nuts.

[@ZeroFighter]

"A plague on both your houses!" Mercutio (Romeo and Juliet)

[@LowerBlack64]

It should be noted that game development wise, both the Swamp Spider House as well as Beneath the Well are maps that were initially created for Ocarina of Time but ultimately scrapped for that game (as last year's gigaleak shows). Now for Majora's proper, we don't know if the Oceanside house was created first and then the then scrapped map was reused second or even the other way around, but I do think that this is probably the reason why both Spider House maps ultimately don't really match all that much in purpose or anything other than being sidequests, really, which granted, the devs probably never thought much about either with the very limited time they had to put Majora's Mask together.

[@virgulilla9469]

16:07 about the main 4 masks, they resemble poker cards which also have some meaning... ♦Earth ♣Fire ♠Air ♥Water They also carry other meanings :p

[@haggard_hermit]

I mean the two buildings could have had a similar affiliation separated by long periods of time. I always thought the swamp shrine came first a long time ago, but fell into disrepair over many years of not being used. I always wondered if it may have even been a lost monument to an ancient civilization. The ocean house I always thought was newer, made by a group of people or organization, or even kingdom of some sort, that was trying to study this lost spider based civilization, perhaps being the decedents of said civilization. So you have an ancient kingdom/etc that died out maybe thousands of years ago, all of their history and cities being destroyed except the swamp shrine, which was saved by its remote/isolated location, and a kingdom* that came hundreds of years ago in search of their forgotten past. I always thought the people who utilized the ocean house had been archeologists of some sort, and had used this facility as a base of operations studying ancient artifacts, many of which CAME from the swamp shrine, which they were trying to renovate to a semblance of its former glory. I also wonder if this people had some sort of connection to the garo or the ikana people. Perhaps this is where the garo came from, and it’s all that’s left of their ancient civilization, which means maybe they were the ones who constructed the stone tower eons ago, and then were interloped by the ikana people. They did what all old peoples tend to do, try to expand their territory, and they se to have been possibly more advanced than the garo, who they may have wiped out. It could be that it was the ikana people who destroyed the garo cities and culture, never being able to navigating the swamp and not reaching the sea before tragedy struck. This idea led me to wonder if the myth of the giant deities was actually a tale of the first time there was something of an apocalypse caused by the skull kid, and their tale of friendship gone sour is all that’s left of the destructive god-like war they waged with one another. I always wondered if the ikana people destroyed the garo, and the giant war destroyed the ikana. The dead denizens of the valley seem to be sort of…confused about their own demise. Sort of like they don’t fully understand their own death, or at least the passage of time that lay between their kingdom prospering and being in ruins. That would explain why there are ikana soldiers in the ocean house, they may have been scouts sent to inspect the ocean area and then they, along with the house itself, were buried in the aftermath of the giants fighting the skull kid, as they definitely seem confused about the fact that they’re dead and trapped down there. I don’t know. That’s what I was always thinking about when I was a kid. It’s head cannon to me now 😂😂😂

[@Josuh]

last time i watched this channel you had around 8k subs, glad to know how far you've grown, cheers

[@BalooDumptruck]

So then what happens after you lift the curse of both areas and collect the goods from both? Is the Swamp house gonna just be abandoned and left to rot away? Does the guy who finds the ocean one renovate the place into his own place? Id assume he discards all the spider stuff first, including the fence in the front

[@Pneubeteube]

Holy crap did I start cooking up some good lore theory from this video, its a long one but please read on. Termina seems to be where masks of power originate, its likely that the Happy Mask Salesman finds them in Termina and sells them in Hyrule. The 4 most powerful masks in the game that Link can use are transformative, they change Link into the form of a different type of being, Deku Shrub, Goron, Zora, and Deity, the first three being heavily implied to carry the souls of their likeness. As for the weaker masks, it is not always explained how they come to be, and its very hard to find a lot of lore information on this, but from what I can remember many masks are related to death or powerful emotions in some way, and people can make them. I'm pretty sure it is said that Majora's Mask was made by an ancient tribe. So if they are made in someway, don't just pop into existence, then that means there had to have been a first mask right? And the only masks we have ever seen 'made' as a player, making it maybe the easiest type of mask to make, is a mask related to death that transforms the wearer. We know that the spider houses are pretty much the oldest structures in Termina, and we know one of them has a 'curse' related to them that transforms people into spiders in an eerily mask sort of way. The ocean house is FULL of mask motif's and is probably the first structure of the two to be built. And in the ocean spider house, is the hidden room. Now let me ask you, of any place in the ocean spider house, which most reminds you of the swamp spider house? Look at the colors, and the stronger intent to weave spider imagery into the room itself. What if the second spider house, in the swamp, was made to replicate whatever magic/rituals are done in that secret room, on a larger and more focused scale? What if it didn't finish being built because someone tried making a new mask too early or accidentally in the swamp spider house, and the resulting mask was too powerful? Too evil? What if the mask making ritual went so horribly wrong it cursed the swamp house, and that culture? Strange, when you look at it the right way, Majora's Mask does almost look like a spider with its 8 legs on bottom and 2 fangs on top. And the way skull kid bobs his head to the side, isn't it sort of like how skulltula's rotate when they are on a wall? Anyway, that was a pretty fun thought process to go down! Thanks for the video!

[@arcticpossi_schw1siantuntija42]

There's four big masks and four chairs. There's paintings of skull kid. What if the house was built by the four giants, who evidently knew skull kid