The Curious Case of Laser Cut & CNC'd USA Wrenches vs Forged

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Жыл бұрын

The USA wrenches: amzn.to/3ytNlNl Taiwan Combo: amzn.to/3lLT4qp Find our tool rankings here: torquetestchannel.etsy.com Today we look at the somewhat new phenomenon of laser cut USA wrenches, why Tekton might be making them this way, are they better or worse for it, and how it compares to a traditionally forged alloy steel wrench of equal size.
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Torque, who started TTC, is working in product development for Astro Tools who doesnt make traditional wrenches like these at the moment. TTC is not the only testing out there, always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!

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@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel Жыл бұрын
I just want to say how much we appreciate our community (Some might even call you Torque Testies. Just sayin', it's been said ). Every time we try something a little bit more random or different than our usual favorites, you guys are so positive, provide useful feedback and experience to share with everyone, and suggest further thoughtful things to look at. I don't think you guys realize how rare that is online. Thank you
@jonshomo1167
@jonshomo1167 Жыл бұрын
Please dont torque my testes…
@manga12
@manga12 Жыл бұрын
its nice they are trying to make in the usa, it really is with so many things just plane ol unavailable even if they want to, but it is worse and cost more, though from the looks not too much weaker and sutable for the offset angle they are made for, your right forged is always stronger and better mechanical properties, but there are limits to certain things and its why things like ship propellers are cast and machined, or why they have powder metal blanks which have their own limits but better material distribution of the elements, which are good for one piece tools and you can pein them to get a little more tightness in grain, but seems like additive manufactured metals, they are not hot workable like continuous casted metal or blanks, if one tries to the powder metal will deteriorate typically and it tends to be very stiff like a weld with laser sintered material, but it cant be stress relived easy like forgings can be or as I read it will fall apart, so cold peining or forming is really about all you can do from what I read last year or two ago in forge or forging magazine online. rolling if forging but not like cross wedge forging, closed die, or open die where all around it squezes the cross section down and makes it tighter and with less needed weight then a casting.
@stlyns
@stlyns Жыл бұрын
So far, all your videos have been well presented, clear and concise. The addition of a bit of wit and dry humor is a nice touch.
@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953
@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953 Жыл бұрын
Looking at impact wrenches on the dyno can get a bit tedious. It's good to mix it up a bit. 👍
@adamnance4404
@adamnance4404 Жыл бұрын
They are supposed to be used for hydraulic fittings, “soft metal fittings”
@jakeelenbaas971
@jakeelenbaas971 Жыл бұрын
Another aircraft mechanic here, I agree that the 30/60 head angle is a must in our field. Snapon had the patent on these wrenches for a long time and I am glad to see other manufacturers offering these wrenches and at a much lower price. I paid close to $1000 for my snapon set 10 years ago. The last I looked the same set from Tekton was around $300 give or take.
@brainstorm4207
@brainstorm4207 Жыл бұрын
ahhh gotta love the snap on truck. 2 screwdrivers for 100 a week for the rest of your life lol
@jakeelenbaas971
@jakeelenbaas971 Жыл бұрын
@@brainstorm4207 just remember that after the first step on the truck, its consensual....
@civichbc
@civichbc Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a set of tekton and love them I agree they are a must have in aircraft mechanic field
@isaackvasager9957
@isaackvasager9957 Жыл бұрын
a patent...on friggin angles? I hate the american patent system. That's ridiculous.
@FixItStupid
@FixItStupid Жыл бұрын
@@jakeelenbaas971 Truth All Of IT $$$$ Like The Wife
@samuelps3878
@samuelps3878 Жыл бұрын
I work as an aircraft mechanic, the tekton 30/60's are indispensable for turning nuts in awkward areas. I've found they beat out snap-on because of the narrower head-different angle
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel Жыл бұрын
Perfect example, thanks for the real world experience
@Fuckitbro
@Fuckitbro Жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel I use the Tekton angle head wrench, in the Heavy equipment/agricultural field and they’re worth every penny! Only gripe is the chrome plating could be better.
@GlyphZero
@GlyphZero Жыл бұрын
i've used the 30/60's for some questionably engineered sorter tables and greatly appreciate more of these being on the market
@kennyboyswag
@kennyboyswag Жыл бұрын
I have a set of each, use them both about equally. The Tektons definitely see use on hydraulic lines in the tight gear bays you see on business jets.
@mekmek4650
@mekmek4650 Жыл бұрын
yah I work on aircraft as well the tekton 30/60 are amazingly useful and very reasonably priced compared to alternatives. I also own a full set of the regular tekton wrenches and they are pretty good. They are not the be all end all but they do the job and do it well just a little bulky compared to some of the tool trucks but way cheaper.
@Ice_Berg
@Ice_Berg Жыл бұрын
Even though the tools being tested weren't as exciting as in some of your other videos, I think this might be one of my favorites you've done. Including the old documentary footage and offering explanations of your own for the how and why of these wrenches was super interesting. I'd love to see more videos like this that are a combination of tool review and science/history/manufacturing lesson.
@cheeseburgerbeefcake
@cheeseburgerbeefcake Жыл бұрын
Old footage? That is bang up to date modern technology right there. I'm confident that our lecturers requested the same video to be converted from VHS to a digital format a few years back!
@thepewplace1370
@thepewplace1370 Жыл бұрын
There's a KZbin channel you may find interesting called Periscope Film that is digitized version of thousands of old manufacturing, educational, national defense, public service and other cool old videos. One of my favorites is the one showing all the benefits Transite asbestos-infused water pipes. But there's loads of videos on US heavy manufacturing, back when we led the world. They are a great learning resource.
@Dirtyharry70585
@Dirtyharry70585 Жыл бұрын
@@thepewplace1370 yeah reminds of grandpa, ww1 vet, made it back and became A vp at crosley in the ‘50-60’s. He had tools as a kid I thought were cool but clueless🤔
@mysss29
@mysss29 Жыл бұрын
@@thepewplace1370 I love those old docs, but with such vast, and on KZbin unorganized, collections it's hard to know where to start
@thepewplace1370
@thepewplace1370 Жыл бұрын
@@mysss29 start with the topic here: Periscope Film and then "forging". Watching the old school men of this country running massive machinery and building huge things is awesome
@giorgio.
@giorgio. Жыл бұрын
I'm not a machinist or technician, I don't work with tools all day, I work in IT and like to wrench on bikes and cars on the weekend when I have time. I find this channel so interesting, clear and concise. Videos are just the right length and the pace is just right. I always learn something from each video. This is what KZbin is for me. Thanks for another great video, I have learned a lot from your channel and you have guided some of tool purchases.
@TheCool913
@TheCool913 Жыл бұрын
As a heavy equipment mechanic, I couldn't do my job without these angle wrenches. Getting on hydraulic fittings in an excavator on say the MCV (main control valve) is impossible with a regular wrench without pulling many more hoses than you need. I currently use Cat branded tools (as I work for a Cat dealer) which are rebranded Snap-On, I believe.
@stlyns
@stlyns Жыл бұрын
As a heavy equipment operator,I can atteast first hand that not having those wrenches can turn a one hour hose replacement job into an all day ordeal.
@campbellpaul
@campbellpaul Жыл бұрын
You do a great job of explaining and reiterating key points in the processes you are describing. Thanks for teaching a new generation of Amercans why these processes are different in a way we all can understand.
@HoagesMoto
@HoagesMoto Жыл бұрын
Gents, from an aeronautical & mechanical engineer, excellent work. Appreciate you demonstrating to the masses, and I, a comprehensive yet easily understood comparison of the two manufacturing methods and their realised real world performance. This kind of content in a short, sweet, accurate and interesting video is uncommon, thanks again.
@SneakerHeadJP713
@SneakerHeadJP713 Жыл бұрын
I'm an equipment mechanic and working on hydraulic lines that are many times in awkward positions/ packed closely together, I find myself almost always grabbing the tekton 30/60 before anything else even crowsfoots
@matthewpeterson3329
@matthewpeterson3329 Жыл бұрын
I was about to make a similar post when I saw yours. I also work on heavy equipment and military equipment. It is always frustrating, though not shocking, how manufacturers like Oshkosh, Stewart & Stevenson, AM General have designed their vehicles with almost no thought to how they will be worked on or maintained without specialty tools. I know, they are built to the military's requirements, but sheesh! I have so many Frankenstein tools that are cut and welded at goofy angles so that air/fuel/hydraulic lines can be reached and tightened properly. How many times have you wished you were born with an extra elbow in the middle of your forearm? I have "S" wrenches that have been heated so that an extreme offset can be introduced, and vice versa on some of my offset wrenches. These tool mods are only for repeat applications, but without them, the work mind numbingly irritating. I've rarely found situations where crows feet provided anything but frustration, though I know they have their place. I'm glad Tekton is bringing unique tools to market.
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 Жыл бұрын
In my experience all a crowsfoot is good for is anger management training. Yeah, I'll take the 30/60 thank you!
@manga12
@manga12 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewpeterson3329 same with regular cars so tight you cant get in to work on anything without taking things apart in the old days it was right there not hidden behind 5 other moving parts or having to unscrew things just to get to the lights to change a bulb
@johnhorner5711
@johnhorner5711 Жыл бұрын
The forged vs. laser cut decision also is affected by anticipated volumes. These high angle, thin wrenches are very specialized. When you need that shape, you really need it. But most of the time you don't need or want it. Hard tooling for forgings is very expensive and only makes sense for high volume production. Laser cut parts make all kinds of sense at low volumes. Your channel is fascinating because you test tools to their breaking point. However, the best measure of quality is suitability to purpose. Is a wrench which is ten times stronger than ever needed in the intended application better than one which is only five times stronger than ever needed? Your typical methods imply a yes answer to that question, so I appreciate that your comments conclude with the "in real life" distinction.
@jinxtacy
@jinxtacy Жыл бұрын
I think it's something many of us are guilty of. Obsession with the best when most things in life are tradeoffs and selecting the combination of characteristics that will do the job the way that you desire. It makes me think of German automakers making something that will do what is required of it under appropriate use whereas Toyota is trying to imagine how you'll inappropriately use it. It's wherever our priorities lie. Unfortunately, we're not all material scientists and engineers and those numbers are not readily available to consumers or good for marketing and competition since most people don't even know what they need. We rely on them to make those decisions that will serve the majority of people to a satisfactory level.
@blkmoon33
@blkmoon33 Жыл бұрын
Specialty tools will always have a place in a techs box. Honestly those offset wrenches are probably strong enough for the job they're designed for. I prefer Snap-On myself but I'm also an old wrench turner lol.
@Skinflaps_Meatslapper
@Skinflaps_Meatslapper Жыл бұрын
Oh, they're plenty strong enough. I still use a set I bought from harbor freight that cost me $25 (I think there was maybe 15 wrenches in the set?), the kind of low quality you can't even find at harbor freight anymore, and they've lasted for nearly 25 years now in the specific applications they're needed for. Truth be told, these tekton wrenches are probably overbuilt for their application, but there's nothing wrong with that at all.
@chrislj2890
@chrislj2890 Жыл бұрын
I have a lot of Tekton tools, including their forged combination wrenches, and so far I've been quite pleased with the quality for the money. I was all Craftsman back in the day and still have a lot of that brand, but things have changed unfortunately.
@963ste
@963ste Жыл бұрын
Thank you for testing things that I think about while working on cars. It's great to see how things work and what more accurate or understandable readings actually come out to. That clip from 2:40 to was nice too, just enough technical info without the complicated side. Great Work! Keep it up!
@crispychrispgaming9261
@crispychrispgaming9261 Жыл бұрын
Yes, very excited to see uploads every Friday
@user-cs1ne8gx9u
@user-cs1ne8gx9u Жыл бұрын
Almost looks like an old school tappet wrench. Probably handy in certain situations. Thanks guys great work.
@CatFoodPizza
@CatFoodPizza Жыл бұрын
Your added footage made me think I was back in highschool shop class again. Time to roll out the old TV cart.
@nilknoc101
@nilknoc101 Жыл бұрын
These videos always drop at the perfect time. I was recently admiring my coworker’s collection of odd-angle snap-on’s, and now I know what I’ll end up buying. Great work guys. Btw I think I’ll be sending you some older impacts for you guys to evaluate, purely out of curiosity, and also for those who may have the same tools that haven’t been featured on the channel to my knowledge.
@dragonmaster391
@dragonmaster391 Жыл бұрын
Highly informative and interesting video. Definitely looking into tekton for future tools, I want to support companies trying to make products in the USA.
@davidb6576
@davidb6576 Жыл бұрын
Agreed - I'd much rather have all US-made tools.
@dperreno
@dperreno Жыл бұрын
I loved the footage of forging wrenches. It's pretty fascinating!
@kaleb_barbour3
@kaleb_barbour3 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, love the deep dive on the material science and processes used to make our common tools.
@JustMikeJones
@JustMikeJones Жыл бұрын
I have the tekton 15/60 Taiwan and the tekton 30/60 us wrench’s. I use them often on hydraulic fittings. The 30/60s are irreplaceable, you will want the extra 15*. I owned the 15/60 about a year longer and found myself constantly in a position of a fitting being in the middle of the two open ends reach, especially when you have 8,9,10 etc hoses with limited spaces into a manifold. Since purchasing the 30/60 I only use the 15/60 when I need a second wrench, yesterday it hard line to hose connection. Otherwise the 30/60 is king and worth every dollar. I’ve never slipped off a fitting with the laser cut wrench. I have 1/4 - 1 1/2 and will be purchasing through 2” here shortly.
@bassiclymike
@bassiclymike Жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion, review and explanation of these two types of manufacturing and the products created. Exactly why I love to watch your videos.
@TheRealXyzven
@TheRealXyzven Жыл бұрын
I love how you fit the WHOLE picture into the symptomatic results! Excellent work!
@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953
@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953 Жыл бұрын
Good explanation of the difference in grain structure. The diagrams made it really clear how they differ and how forged tools should be more durable.
@Skinflaps_Meatslapper
@Skinflaps_Meatslapper Жыл бұрын
Take a look at machined vs forged vs cast...the grain structure on cast should theoretically be the strongest by far, but in reality a lot of other factors make that determination rather than the way in which the piece was initially shaped. Cast steel only comes in a handful of alloys, while cold rolled and forged steel alloys number in the thousands, all possessing some sort of unique strength or property, while cast is sort of a "you get what you get" because only certain alloys will remain that same alloy after being melted down and cast. Grain orientation only comes into play when all other factors are removed besides the orientation, and the gains that grain orientation provide only account for a few percent of ultimate yield strength. That being said, the larger grain structure of the cold rolled wrench means they didn't refine the grain structure through heat treatment, instead just directly heating and quenching to get the desired hardness and nothing beyond that. The grains were left large and this heavily affects both strength and hardness, among other things. Had they done it correctly, the grain structure would've been the same fine powder appearance and it would take a microscope and etching to see the distorted grains from how it was formed. Forging often refines the grains (it can certainly be done incorrectly as well), so all other things being equal in the manufacturing process, a straight to quench product would favor a forged process more because there was some grain refinement happening along the way. If you're interested, the knifemaking community has a massive and borderline fanatical knowledge base on how to create and refine the grain structure you want by the precise application of heat cycles and annealing and quenching etc., and that's the biggest determining factor of how strong a piece of steel ends up being.
@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953
@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953 Жыл бұрын
@@Skinflaps_Meatslapper it's only when I started to look into metallurgy more in-depth that my mind was blown by how many variables there are in alloys, forging, quenching, annealing, the list of variables could run into the millions when working on just 1 finished piece of metal. There is so much science and knowledge involved in manufacturing metal to get the ideal properties for it's intended use. It is a very interesting field of research involving chemistry and physics. 👍
@Skinflaps_Meatslapper
@Skinflaps_Meatslapper Жыл бұрын
@@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953 One thing I really like about metallurgy is that it can be as simple as following a ritual of hitting things with hammers and lots of fire like our ancestors perfected, or as scientific and theoretical as you can stand. I've amassed tons of knowledge on the subject over the years and I still feel overwhelmed reading science articles about metallurgy. In truth, even scientists aren't really sure what's going on most of the time...they're able to engineer amazing alloys but a lot of it is still guesswork or trial and error. Being able to accurately predict what one alloying element might do in a particular percentage is still beyond our capability, we have an idea what it might do based on testing, but sometimes it'll throw us for a loop and we'll discover some new chemical process is happening that we never knew about. I find it fascinating that metallurgy today, with all of our modern advances and technology, isn't terribly different from the days when bladesmiths thought a particularly strong steel was the result of magic or imbued with a soul rather than a particularly low impurity alloy. We know better than to think it's magic these days, but modern bladesmiths are still a superstitious bunch (it's often amusing), and our scientists can't always pinpoint the exact reason for the inexplicable things that happen either. It might as well still be magic to us at this point in time lol
@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953
@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953 Жыл бұрын
@@Skinflaps_Meatslapper I just like the whole idea of alloys, it's like having all these different ingredients and depending on how much of each one, in which order and at what temperature and how much oxygen etc etc etc, you can end up with some really cool or really useful end product. Or you can end up with a pile of junk! 😂
@Skinflaps_Meatslapper
@Skinflaps_Meatslapper Жыл бұрын
@@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953 For sure! I've been experimenting with crucible steel...various bits of hardenable scrap collected from all sorts of places along with some graphite and iron powder mixed in a crucible. The scrap contains all the other fancy alloying elements like molybdenum/chromium/vanadium/etc. so depending on what scrap you use, your ingot qualities vary wildly. I've got pages worth of different recipes utilizing different ratios, which bits of scrap seem to contribute the best, and where I found them (because manufacturers change their alloys occasionally). I have buckets of junk ingots that didn't end well. When I get something that I'm happy with, I'll forge it down into coupons, heat treat them with different variables, and have them tested for hardness and various durability tests for quantifiable data. I have two now that show some real promise, and I'm currently forging them down into knives for some real world data and testing. Eventually I'll have something pretty awesome to work with, and I might scale it up to a small foundry to churn out crucible steel ingots for bladesmiths to use.
@jonofhousebeard3378
@jonofhousebeard3378 Жыл бұрын
You guys rock. Thanks for another great test and explaining in more thorough details the difference in manufacturing processes. Looking forward to more wrench design tests. Could you guys do Crowsfeet? Both standard and flarenut?
@aaronbritt2025
@aaronbritt2025 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like despite the incredibly high start-up costs, there might be a large amount of money to be made starting up a forge in the USA.
@redjellonian8126
@redjellonian8126 Жыл бұрын
We have the technology to bring manufacturing back into the United States with better product made with better standards and no human rights violations.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel Жыл бұрын
Craftsman in Fort Worth, TX seems to be doing forged pieces and hiring forge workers for their new plant. But you're right. The larger the tool, the larger the forge, and larger forges take exponentially more $, space, employees to operate.
@dulmi2317
@dulmi2317 Жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel Milwaukee too in West Bend for their new pliers and screwdrivers.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel Жыл бұрын
@@dulmi2317 I'm unsure if those tools are machined from forge blanks however. Not that it isn't really cool they are doing that
@thepewplace1370
@thepewplace1370 Жыл бұрын
100%, unfortunately until people are willing to pay significantly more, operations like that in the US are going to be very difficult to sustain I suspect. There's a reason all this manufacturing went overseas to begin with: people want the cheapest option. I buy the US manufactured stuff on principle, and I'd love to see a rebirth of US manufacturing, especially as China is pushing more and more for dominance in all arenas, it's more important than ever to bring that capability back here en masse. Aside from heavy shipbuilding applications, we don't do that on any large scale anymore (our biggest forges and presses are WW2 era). If we found ourselves in a naval conflict with China, we don't have the ability to scale up production like they do (or even like we did in WW2): it would take years and years just to build the infrastructure. National defense aside, the last two years are a great example of why home-grown manufacturing and a large body of tradesmen who know those skills are such a huge benefit.
@rotate85
@rotate85 Жыл бұрын
I really like the educational aspect to this video and also sharing your personal insight and knowledge. Please continue to make videos like this.
@rickhouston2144
@rickhouston2144 Жыл бұрын
These episodes are absolutely fantastic. Keep up the great work
@nikphoenix
@nikphoenix Жыл бұрын
Great technical video. Love this channel, always willing to cover more topics accurately.
@thedanyesful
@thedanyesful Жыл бұрын
Thanks for stepping up the production and teaching us something really interesting today.
@Beary98
@Beary98 Жыл бұрын
This deep dive on the process was and tools was awesome!
@fltchr4449
@fltchr4449 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate hearing insights about why things are made where they are and the state of manufacturing. Thanks.
@paulbrooks9
@paulbrooks9 Жыл бұрын
The old video footage was awesome. Great video!
@YogisGarage
@YogisGarage Жыл бұрын
I use these wrenches every day in my shop and feature them on my channel. They're not cheap in cost and have held up quite well after 1 year of daily use. In fact, my wrenches are 100% Tekton. Not a broken tool yet.
@wades623
@wades623 Жыл бұрын
I have both sets of the regular wrenches and my only real annoyance with them is the size marking is in the middle. I prefer it on the open end because it's easier to see but as far as everything else they have been fine
@MTerrence
@MTerrence Жыл бұрын
What a lovely video! Thank you for producing it!
@alazombie3111
@alazombie3111 Жыл бұрын
We need more tekton! I'm a heavy advocate of the brand and haven't gotten a tool that has failed me. Watching this about the new line has made me wonder about the true stats of some of their regular line. I think breaker bars and torque wrenches next!
@Clough42
@Clough42 Жыл бұрын
It's always interesting to see bits of my videos showing up in other people's work. I guess I should feel bad about it being used as an example of the inferior process, but forging is out of reach for my home shop, and really wasn't necessary for that particular project.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel Жыл бұрын
Hey not meant that way, it's aluminum. Many commercial wrenches are made from billet too! There no forged aluminum wrenches really.
@Clough42
@Clough42 Жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel it's all good. Forging truly is magic.
@danielblackburn4626
@danielblackburn4626 Жыл бұрын
I love the content and especially adding the clips from historical experts.
@THET1916
@THET1916 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video, well researched, great background on the metallurgy. I agree with your conclusion of the best model to use this process on. I have a set of sunex double offsets that were(cheap) forged but horribly weak. That said they still did the job to reach hard to reach fittings. Thank you for the channel and I will use the vids in classes where students ask quality questions when it comes to tooling.
@robertmiranda2444
@robertmiranda2444 Жыл бұрын
I use to work for a tool manufacturer in Arkansas, we made forged hand tools for NAPA, Armstrong, Craftsman, and Matco. Most were made by forging however in 2005 began making some through rolling the steel. Still have my full set of forged Matco wrenched which have never failed me and expect to give to my son one day. If your wondering about the cost difference, it's in the precision of the broaching ( cutting of the opening ) also the amount of chroming. Some companies are more picky when it comes to QA.
@smartin70
@smartin70 Жыл бұрын
Is the manufacturer still in business today?
@robertmiranda2444
@robertmiranda2444 Жыл бұрын
@@smartin70 Yes Danaher tools in Springdale Arkansas
@carl_h
@carl_h Жыл бұрын
clear concise and succinct, great work once again
@TheGamingExposure
@TheGamingExposure Жыл бұрын
This video was awesome. I do millwrighting in the forging industry repairing forging equipment across the US. Forging is by far the best way to get a strong product. The videos are awesome keep em coming!!!!!
@davidwilson4190
@davidwilson4190 Жыл бұрын
A top notch production, thank you for explaining the basics of this metallurgy in hand tools.
@rwheelbot6241
@rwheelbot6241 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciated that deep dive with the clip inserts. Well done. Just what I'm into.
@billybobaggins8820
@billybobaggins8820 Жыл бұрын
This video isn’t about wrenches. It’s about getting learnt, very nice video TTC.
@Acceleronics
@Acceleronics Жыл бұрын
Excellent content as always! Proud to be a subscriber.
@mikestrutt322
@mikestrutt322 Жыл бұрын
I loved your background and insight on this topic.
@leotam3372
@leotam3372 Жыл бұрын
Love the old videos placed in here for context!
@Graive17
@Graive17 Жыл бұрын
Decade long HD off/on road tech here, this is the perfect wrench and the perfect manufacturing process for such a tool. Having to buy any of the large brand name tools, especially specialty tooling, will break the bank or will require decades to acquire. Having options for such useful, one off situational tools, is indispensable. It allowed me to perform more complex tasks easier and faster, without having to dish out a grand or more. These types of tools, and this manufacturing process, makes accessing the trades much easier and much more approachable. Any old tech will lament about how much money they've dumped into their snap-on tool box. I appreciate tool makers making old designs with new processes, it opened up my world to amazing tooling for a fraction of the cost. Sure, the tool MAY not perform as well as the big brand names, but if you are smart and thoughtful about the tools capabilities, you can approach many, many situations you may have never thought about before.
@Downstriker559
@Downstriker559 Жыл бұрын
Heavy duty mechanic here, the double ended open offset wrenches are definitely a must have. Always grabbing for one when removing hydraulic hoses that are together in a bundle or off a valve bank.
@OrionsKelt
@OrionsKelt Жыл бұрын
I like this format a lot. More videos like this please.
@Callelle6251
@Callelle6251 Жыл бұрын
This was really cool, getting into the metallurgy of it is fascinating.
@georgeferlazzo7936
@georgeferlazzo7936 Жыл бұрын
Hello again Torque Test Channel Thank you for another Great Video 👍
@phillhuddleston9445
@phillhuddleston9445 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I agree that for what these are used for you will never break them or wear them out. If something is too tight you would want to use the box end of a combination wrench to break it loose then use these to remove it.
@Troyvidihoo
@Troyvidihoo Жыл бұрын
Wow very informative video including scientific deep explanation of the advantages and disadvantages of each process, I actually learned a good bit and I enjoyed your video.
@fabbro9999
@fabbro9999 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review and commentary.
@markp8295
@markp8295 Жыл бұрын
Love the video. Great blend of testing and theory. :-)
@Locane256
@Locane256 Жыл бұрын
That was very informative! Found this video from a Hackaday article.
@antonkudris
@antonkudris Жыл бұрын
In the video there's a part that explains how forging can change grain direction. However the way those tools are forged (top/bottom) doesn't really change original longitude grain direction. Which makes me believe that difference in performance has more to do with heat treatment rather than shaping method. Steel compositions are probably different
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel Жыл бұрын
They are both 4140 Cro-Mo which has limitations of the elements that it contains. The multi-step top/bottom forging like that is how all parts this size are forged, including piston rods. Because the die has edges/sides, the 100 tons coming from the top not only pushes down, but causes the material to deform in all directions looking for the easiest route to flow and push out, up against the walls of the dies. Curves, radiuses and thickness differences are flowed into rather than cut. This causes a uniform forged grain structure when done correctly, often in multiple (getting smaller) steps.
@mannycalavera121
@mannycalavera121 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, the only variation here is heat treatment.
@wim0104
@wim0104 Жыл бұрын
@@mannycalavera121 no, it is not just heat treatment. Forging and black smithing have a lot going on.
@mannycalavera121
@mannycalavera121 Жыл бұрын
@@wim0104 in this instance, its just heat treatment
@andrewholdaway813
@andrewholdaway813 Жыл бұрын
@@mannycalavera121 No it isn't
@robertfrate9738
@robertfrate9738 Жыл бұрын
Hi, these offset wrenches are very good for tight spots for me, excellent demonstration ty,
@thebmac
@thebmac Жыл бұрын
The Tekton 30/60 have been great for working on hydraulics, especially around valve blocks. I was super happy when amazon started carrying them for Canada. Have a standard set up to 1-5/8 and probably spent one quarter the price that a Snap-On set would be which seems to average around $100 CAD an inch .
@georgeferlazzo7936
@georgeferlazzo7936 Жыл бұрын
Hello again Torque Test Channel Thank you for another Great Video 👍 I think, I learned a lot here. Again thank you
@curtisk84
@curtisk84 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very informative video. I have a big set of these Tekton angle wrenches. Very nice looking wrenches and for the price they serve me well. I will keep the manufacturing process in mind for other wrenches I might buy.
@officialshadetreeamerica
@officialshadetreeamerica Жыл бұрын
I may just put a set of these wrenches in my toolbox. They look pretty handy for hard to reach places for sure. It's always great to see companies bring out innovative tools to help out average joes as well.
@oamdrab
@oamdrab Жыл бұрын
I need to watch this channel more often! You just taught me a lot! Next time someone tells me that that cast axes and hatchets are the same as the forged ones I have I have the knowledge to explain why they are not a in a simple way.
@billcovert3473
@billcovert3473 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Truck repair here, the Tecton much appreciated.
@disgruntledegghead6923
@disgruntledegghead6923 Жыл бұрын
Funny, I could have used one of those goofy angle wrenches just this morning and I'm on vacation from work. One of those rarely used tools that you shouldn't have to use a cheater bar on though. Great in depth look on the manufacturing process!
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n Жыл бұрын
I have found a laser print of my parent's signatures works better than forging and my school seems to agree.
@jeteristhebest1
@jeteristhebest1 Жыл бұрын
very neat video! thanks ttc
@thepewplace1370
@thepewplace1370 Жыл бұрын
This right here, gents: this is critical. The loss of manufacturing in the US is a sad, sad thing, not to mention a huge national security issue (especially given China's massive expansion in the field, with the biggest presses and forges the in the world, by far). If you've ever complained about the loss of manufacturing capability in the US (I know I have), then you should try to spend money, wherever possible/reasonable, on the US-built items. Buy a set of these wrenches. Go to Project Farms channel and check the top 10 Made-in-USA video and buy all of those. Vote with your wallet and pump money into every US operation you can afford to. I don't work on automobiles enough to need a set this specific, but I will be buying a set anyway. Tangentially, try to buy any forged US tools and other items you can. The death of forging in the US is particularly concerning. Another quality video, thanks TTC.
@ed_cetera
@ed_cetera Жыл бұрын
Well presented discussion ! Your conclusions appear well thought out, and show that these Tekton cnc wrenches are indeed good for the angled wrench line. I put in an order.
@RANDOMNATION907
@RANDOMNATION907 Жыл бұрын
Radiator oil cooler lines, rack & pinion hoses, . . . oh yes. These would be a nice addition to any professional tool set.
@villiamo3861
@villiamo3861 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review - in evaluating its 'worth ', rightly looking at the appropriate function of the tool.
@nicholasgarrett8323
@nicholasgarrett8323 Жыл бұрын
Very cool episode!!!
@seansysig
@seansysig Жыл бұрын
Purpose built tools do have a place in the toolbox.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@jimgd4
@jimgd4 Жыл бұрын
This channel rocks. Thanks a lot, man.
@reubensandwich9249
@reubensandwich9249 Жыл бұрын
Videos like this make me appreciate I'm subbed to the channel and bought a couple shirts.
@jamdc2000
@jamdc2000 Жыл бұрын
I own several KingTony tools, amazing feeling in the hand, great finish and easy tonclean design, I would love to see you guys testing them
@acerdale5099
@acerdale5099 Жыл бұрын
Well done, best video yet! keep doin’ the lords work ;)
@michaelcrumlett187
@michaelcrumlett187 Жыл бұрын
Love that it’s US made. Think I’m buying a set.
@rogers8555
@rogers8555 Жыл бұрын
loved all the Info and 80s 90s videos
@Frank-bh3cm
@Frank-bh3cm Жыл бұрын
Really good content, thanks.
@jaredm450
@jaredm450 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative. I feel smarter already.
@romansil
@romansil Жыл бұрын
Wera has their Joker series for that tight spot scenario. I also don’t expect them to be heavy duty wrenches. Thanks for the cool videos!
@alexandrumates88
@alexandrumates88 Жыл бұрын
For older Audis this tool is a must have. Access is everything. The rest of it is irrelevant.
@treyinok
@treyinok Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the hell out of that video. Great learning video!
@-tr0n
@-tr0n Жыл бұрын
Awesome. I have a couple snappy offsets and they are absolute LIFESAVERS when you need them...but finding a good set off of the truck is difficult. I'll be picking these up for sure. Not worried about max torque at all.
@rpsmith
@rpsmith Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks!
@85square
@85square Жыл бұрын
cant wait to see you test the new hurcules
@wrastler_j1943
@wrastler_j1943 Жыл бұрын
My engineer brain loved all the material science background on this video.
@methylbenzodiazepine
@methylbenzodiazepine Жыл бұрын
That is good info. I bought the tekton angled 18mm for a specific job operation and it is fine for that. I will limit it to low-torque operations after watching this. My forged tools I have are from the 80's 90's and early 2000's they hold up for decades. Good video
@Dmbyers2002
@Dmbyers2002 Жыл бұрын
HD mechanic here, I own a full set of these angle wrenches up to 2” and love them. Had a full set of snap on angles stolen and replaced them with these and actually like them better, the 30/60 offsets and the off centre head are great for tight fittings. The Snapon ones are awesome, but these have a narrow profile that fits onto the flats of a boss fitting a lot easier, boss type fittings often have really narrow flats and some hoses choke up on them quite close. Never had a slippage or breakage issue with them in the real world and I use them ALOT.
@wayne9518
@wayne9518 Жыл бұрын
I have a collection of similar angle wrenches and use them after I’ve broken the nut/bolt loose. Definitely not heavy duty but essential as they save a ton of time by not having to disassemble things a whole lot more.
@yt650
@yt650 Жыл бұрын
The open end ranchers with 30° and 60° angle are absolutely wonderful hydraulic fittings especially when they are relatively close to one another. Many times you’re not looking for a forged wrench, you’re looking for something that will work.
@RandomCanEHdian
@RandomCanEHdian Жыл бұрын
Those double angle wrenches are absolutely wonderful for low-clearance exhaust manifolds that have two studs between each runner. My project was saved by their 10 and 12 ones.
@chuckquinn8026
@chuckquinn8026 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@arrtee77
@arrtee77 Жыл бұрын
The video clip showing the wrench being hot drop forged is from rod I think is from the “How it’s made” Snap-On. Most brand name made in USA wrenches are blanked from plate and cold forged in a high pressure hydraulic press. Openings are precisely broached.
@texasrox2010
@texasrox2010 Жыл бұрын
Those come in handy in a tight spot.
@tmacie2
@tmacie2 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@jakeevans3077
@jakeevans3077 Жыл бұрын
I love my tekton angle wrenches. Have both sae and metric, use both daily. Work perfectly and at a fraction of tool truck price.
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