The Cut Content in 343 Guilty Spark

[@nervydestroyer]

I turned this into a playable workshop mod! steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3136666318

[@KOMMANDER737]

This is literally my childhood thank you so much!

[@EnemyAC130Aboveu]

The ruby rebalanced mod for Ce expands upon that crazy marine. Instead of him killing himself when you walk away you hear a loud bang like before, when you come back this time there’s just a blood stain, implying they knocked him out/killed him and dragged away his body to be turned into bio mass or quickly converted into a human flood form.

[@cyborg-mark-vi]

I also like Ruby's approach about the moment the bang happens. Instead of occuring in the room in which the marine is, it occurs when you cross the light bridge after you've left the room. It definitely is an excellent way to ressurect this cut content without having scripting issues like the devs seem to mention in their commentary.

[@theamazingmeh1759]

Also in the mod, you can find Johnson where the hidden lift is

[@BIGWojo68]

Whaaaat? That's even more scary!

[@PanAndScanBuddy]

Isn't that what used to happen in the original Xbox version?

[@TheJewishAzovMember]

​@@PanAndScanBuddyYeah, I'm 90 percent sure that's the original

[@calevoid]

Another detail is that if you chicken out of the facility when you first enter, and use the lift to go back into the swamp, there's a bunch of marine corpses laid out around the area. I assume it was an attempt to creep you out and make you come back inside. Trying to say to the player that it isn't safer outside.

[@blueberry4209]

I heard from other comment here that they're just there to be pre-loaded and would be teleported somewhere else later This idea is cooler though

[@LG1ikLx]

​​@@blueberry4209Nah they wouldn't be there for pre loading. If that were the case they would under the map. I don't think you would pre load textures like that at all. You are wasting the limited resources that consoles had back then. Not to mention character models aren't demanding and can be rendered with no hassle. How ever certain AI encounters are sometimes pre rendered on console. But they are at their spawn points, not teleported from somewhere else. Normally when pre rendering is done (Not for character modals) is that you will have low resolution textures pre rendered. Sometimes even without collision. Then when these are closer or in the player cameras line of sight the resolution will increase. But character modals are normally rendered in full res in all cases. This is all just in my experience. I'm not a professional but I have spent time messing around in game SDKs like UE and Unity. I also done loads of game glitches like out of maps and section skips and that includes doing this in Combat Evolved. There is actually breach you can do in combat evolved, I believe it's in the level "Keyes" where you find him inside some flood ball. At the start of the level you can breach through a wall and walk round a corner. You will see enemy AI pre loaded but because you haven't gone through a checkpoint (A section that tells the game to load the next sequence of events) the ai will not interact with you.

[@ovnimoss]

Found this out by accident because I got turned around and forgot which way was the correct way

[@lilychanxx]

@@LG1ikLx I'm not a game developer but I am a computer scientist. You clearly know what you're talking about, to the point where I'm surprised you said you're not a developer. The only thing I disagree with is character models not being computationally expensive. Although in the case of Halo CE I do mostly agree, the statement is just too broad, in many games the character models are among the most resource intensive assets. Think about the physics that makes many strands of female characters' hair bounce realistically, that in and of itself requires a great deal of computing power. And usually characters are rendered to an exceptionally high standard too. But yes, the elites don't have pretty hair and an 8k texture map :P Oh also whether or not it makes sense to pre-load models when working with limited computing power depends on the situation, but in this case, you're probably right.

[@lilychanxx]

Is this referring to the retail version or the proposed version?

[@TheVengefulVadam]

If you have a modded Original Xbox, you should check out the 1749 build of this game. Has a lot of this cut content turned on, including some extra rooms and even the Flamethrower! Edit: At 15:11 the Marines are set to half health, not 0 health. That 0 value is for shields, which Marines wouldn't have any.

[@disturbedhalo117]

Hey, it's that guy.

[@bottleflaskan802]

Cant believe that halo ce started development in 1749

[@xTooPalex]

@TheVengefulVadam is it possible to complete the 1749 build without the debug menu? I have a modded xbox, but still quite new to modding

[@JohnOmniviz]

@@xTooPalex no its not possible as there is a blocked door in the first level, have to noclip or toggle cam mode then tp to cam to get past it. also IIRC the hanger in truth and reconciliation has horrible lighting issues that cause the game to run at less then 1 FPS, I recall trying to slowly get past that but I dont recall if it was possible or if it just crashed. I did end up just using noclip to skip that section of the ship and iirc it does procced as normal, this was on a debug system with double the RAM so who knows if the game would hit the 1FPS or just crash sooner on retail. BTW the game reads a cheats text file from its root so you could still use debug commands and cheats with button combos.

[@lilpod1343]

@TheVengefulVadam The Halo 1 marines do have shields as a stat, though they don't have any graphical effects for it like the elites do! Their shields leak 20% of incoming damage straight to their health. I believe that the armored marines only leak damage to their health when their shields are below 40% as well. I could be wrong on that one specifically as I don't have a fresh mod toolset from Halo CE to double check my claim, my current mod toolset has changes from a while back. Setting their shields to 0 removes about half of the overall hit points a shotgun marine has, and it's even worse for the unarmored assault rifle marines as 2/3 of their hit points are their shields! Edit: After a quick testing of the units_set_current_vitality script function, it does appear to set their health to 0.5 and shields to 0, and not to a percentage!

[@potatopotawto1412]

Surprised to know someone didn’t know about the elevator. That was my first experience with the emotion known as dread as a kid.

[@Mariopwnzu]

The broken lift is actually something I discovered for myself recently. I was just playing through on a lower difficulty as part of a playlist and was kinda on autopilot while watching stuff in the background but for whatever reason instead of my brain going the normal route I backtracked the way I came in and let me tell ya, accidentally finding that really threw me off guard and got me lost for a minute

[@Robb1977]

ive been playing this game since i was really young, and always thought that it was a requirement. I dont think ive ever even accidentally skipped it.

[@ugoboom]

Same, me a confused 10 year old playing halo 1 by myself for the first time, shitting my pants, and I did find my way to the original lift and hearing it blew up and fall freaked me out so much man Ill never forget the feeling. God tier. Halo 1 so good chefs kiss

[@thelvadam7422]

Man, I found out about this recently too and it was mind-blowing. I just looked at the bottom of that pit with an expression of WTF all over my face

[@akend4426]

Also (in case anyone doesn’t already know), the 1749 build of CE has Guilty Spark introducing himself as “342 Guilty Spark”. This was due to a typo that was in the version of the script his voice actor was given for some reason. In the final release, the line was edited to correctly say “343 Guilty Spark” by Marty O’Donnell. Apparently, Spark’s VA delivered ALL his lines with this typo!

[@Vagabondobiondo]

Actually, upon reflecting, doesn't that name only appear once in the script? Does he or anyone else ever say "343" in Halo: CE?

[@mymomismad95]

And then they decided to keep the edited version because it sounded more robotic. Every tidbit of information from the creation of this masterpiece still always stuns me. Thanks for the reminder.

[@redslate]

Marty working overtime to make the game great.

[@subsume7904]

​@@mymomismad95lol

[@cyqry]

@@mymomismad95 That's honestly such a cool detail to come out of Marty's editing. It genuinely sounds like an AI that is scripted to say bits of dialogue bashed together to create a full sentence, without it sounding too choppy.

[@psykology9299]

The broken lift elevator never felt like an easter egg to me, you intentionally back track through almost every level through the game and i just went back exactly the same path

[@WonderfulCoyote-0313]

Same!

[@therealdemen247]

I always thought you were absolutely intended to see that lift. The first instinct for get out asap is leave the way you came in, and seeing your entrance reduced to slag and flame was a great "oh shit" moment.

[@Superspartan513]

Never knew the lift was an easter egg. First time playing in 2003 and I backtracked always thought that was part of the game, but skipped it going forward cause I knew the faster way to get out.

[@herrpez]

​@@Superspartan513Of course it's just part of the game. It's not hidden in any way, which is the first thing that an easter egg is supposed to be. So you are right, and the video guy is just using the term way too broadly.

[@pisscvre69]

its def not an easter egg to me cuz i can NOT find my way out without running into it first LOL i get so lost on this missiok

[@BigHailFan]

The chief stumbling animation could have perhaps been used for when he teleports into the Library? Sort of showing disorientation from the sudden warp.

[@nervydestroyer]

Agreed, I actually noticed this after putting the video out. It's the same animation as in the beginning of the Library cutscene

[@BigHailFan]

@@nervydestroyer though that leaves the question of why it's in this level's files. perhaps it was meant to be one whole level or one cutscene?

[@SullySadface]

​@@BigHailFanprobably just reusing an existing animation chief do be getting abruptly teleported now and then

[@BigHailFan]

@@SullySadface right but why is it in this level's files if he doesn't exit the teleport on this level?

[@SullySadface]

@@BigHailFan probably just reusing an existing animation

[@iainmaclean4872]

i think maybe with the cut bigfoot sightings, that they might have thought they gave the player too good of a look at the flood. the ones that made it in are way more obscured than the cut ones.

[@SerathDarklands]

I was under the impression that those floating assault rifles were intended to be human forces, considering the elevator comes back up after you get in there, but the timeline doesn't really support that - Foehammer says it's been a few hours since the Captain's squad went dark.

[@WeaponsComplex]

They ARE supposed to be human forces. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJjLg5h6lKidb68feature=shared

[@kalmahcarl]

I think it's an either/or situation. On their first run through players probably assume the AR fire is coming from Marines. After the big reveal, though, you realise just how unlikely that really is. The fact it really isn't certain, even with the meta knowledge we have, is a really neat touch and a testament to how well put together this level really is.

[@ATP2555ify]

They should've made some of them floating plasma rifles

[@commenter4799]

I thought they were Marines, too. Everywhere else the flood storm their enemies, why do they fall back here?

[@Crudmonkey211]

They’re absolutely Flood though. Why would the covenant be fleeing from humans and the humans be murdering covenant in the back when details within the facility and the lore show they actually teamed up against The Flood once the situation was FUBAR. The jackal and marine bodies lying back to back inside is one example.

[@mathematics557]

No matter how much time passes Halo CE will always be my favorite in the series. From the mysterious vibes, to the design of the elites being taller and more reptilian and menacing like, the fact they don't speak English, besides the grunts it just fits perfectly, The unique AI in combat, it's darker grittier atmosphere, man I can go on 💯💯

[@wyattmartin9739]

100% agree👌

[@georgejones5019]

Agreed. They could really go back and lean on this atmosphere. Halo was supposed to feel heavy and dark as humanity is fighting for its survival.

[@barccy]

CE - best atmosphere 2 - best story 3 - most refined gamplay Reach - most mission diversity 4 - best fanfiction

[@vanomaly117v]

Bro i was 8 years old. In the middle of foster care. I got to this new foster home and my foster brother had a xbox. He owned “Godzilla Destroy All Monsters” and “Halo: CE” among other games. 20 years later and i have never loved another game more than HALO.

[@KrazEKing]

I also play the entire Halo series meaning from halo 1 2 3 and then Reach every few times I Jump back in

[@OhNoJoshEdits]

One of my fondest gaming memories was staying up all night with my cousin and playing thru Halo’s story. We played it in co-op until the 343 GS mission. I remember waking him up when the Flood was revealed. He was murdered New Years Day of last year. Playing Halo all night is one of the best memories of him and waking him up to tell him about The Flood was a particular reason why. Lol he was so excited but so tired, he requested I tell him again when he wakes up. 😂

[@biggiracc]

What a fucking twist of fate

[@Cody-r7r]

Did they catch the dude who did it?

[@OhNoJoshEdits]

@@Cody-r7r no.

[@OhNoJoshEdits]

No.

[@Wepospalient]

All the extra AR fire is definitely neat, but I'm honestly glad they trimmed it back, it does kind of take away from the eerie quiet of the swamp and containment facility. Some of the bigfoot sightings I definitely do wish had made the cut though.

[@Janx14]

Yeah the sightings are really cool but if all the AR stuff was around it definitely would have felt too busy. Not to mention the flood doesnt really fight like that so why would there be multiple flood froups just standing back and shooting?

[@SOMEGUY7893]

Yeah I think its better with just the one as the only ones I think were even kinda worth keeping were the opening one or the one where they're shooting at the Covenant running through the door and the rest just feel like overkill. Like for example going in blind you'd assume the first one would be Keyes' team which I think can add to the eeriness of there being no one at the entrance to the facility once you get there despite the extremelyrecent shooting. And the one at the door can kinda help by getting you to think that maybe it is just Marines and not something weird by making it seem like they're retreating into the facility.

[@olympian3]

@@Janx14 the idea is that they're smart enough to lure the master chief into the building

[@PumkRock]

I feel like some of them might have been cut to prevent players from actually killing some of those flood and spoiling the reveal by being able to walk over and inspect the bodies. The ones that actually spawn can be killed, but they are out of bounds so you can't actually get up to see their corpses.

[@DannyEastes]

@@PumkRock You can kill them and get up close in the release game. Particularly the one on the far side of the tree bridge, and the one on the bottom left of the tree bridge as you cross it. They just get back up a short moment after and run away, but they stay dead long enough to get up close.

[@Ambross_Fyshing]

I always thought the broken lift was a required thing lol.

[@EmmaSpiritcaller]

Same. I was more surprised when I didn't find that the lift was broken at one point.

[@calicojack3542]

343 Guilty Spark has always held a special place in my heart. Scared the shit out of me when I was a kid so I’d always play until the flood was revealed and then quit. Got pretty knowledgable about the level because of this. I was actually shocked at how much I didn’t know that was cut.

[@lingricen8077]

bahahah weak ass zoomer

[@ReachStudioPro]

I did the exact same! That mission scared me for so many years. Even though I loved it, it was one of those missions that really scared me so I usually skipped it. I could play all missions without much issues except that one and the last mission. Terrifying.

[@bmouch1018]

I replayed CE for the first time in years yesterday (more specifically I was playing Cursed Halo Again) and now that I'm older and wiser it was a treat to see the work put into the buildup of the flood, and the environmental story telling. The motion tracker thing is just such a neat yet simple bit of storytelling to me. Your suit is picking up human biology, only it's blissfully ignorant of what's been done to said biology.

[@GoBuckeyes216]

Man I thought you would’ve went a little more in detail about the marines you come across inside the facility. If you happen to save any of them I wanna say they have very unique running animations and some unique lines they say. And there’s also a room where you can see two dead marines and jackals implying that they teamed up for a final stand against the parasite

[@ntfoperative9432]

The secret alliance. I wish more people talked about it. When their backs were to the wall, nothing else mattered, not affiliation, not species, not even the fact that they were fighting mere hours ago, just survival

[@ThatEffinMonke]

​@ntfoperative9432 someone even made an animation regarding the alliance. The visual story telling in halo is amazing.

[@nicolae-alexandruluca7853]

There was a short animation made about it

[@antlerr]

oh how sad you god damn trolls come out and think no one will call you on your bs! can't save those marines how much you making telling lies kid?

[@NeightrixPrime]

14:04 I don't believe there was any framerate loss in the original game. There are some bigger encounters on Two Betrayals.

[@XxDemon23xX]

I immediately thought about that myself. I know Halo 2 was built with an 'updated' engine, but I remember when I was modding on the OG xbox, I edited the scenario from Quarantine Zone and changed my 4 elites allies to 40. I don't recall any framerate issues but the AI certainly struggled with pathfinding. In hindsight I wonder if they were struggling to find a firing position.

[@BongoTurtles]

I appreciate the casual depth of knowledge you bring to this. For what it’s worth, I think I’d prefer the cliff “ghost rifles” over the entrance ones, as they draw better attention to the “bigfoot” sightings, and resolve better than the final game build. By resolve, I mean the assault rifle fire from the facility entrance isn’t coherently explained: if you chase the source, there’s no assault rifles, corpses, or alternate paths before running into more covenant. Where did the AR users go? The cliff flood have the benefit of plausibly running off out of sight and reach.

[@SuperODST1]

The flood hides in vents, and also the elevator is coming back up when you enter that room. It's implied they went down below.

[@seva809]

I totally had no clue there were any Marines left in those lower levels.

[@michaelsolomon3496]

I actually didn't know the broken lift was optional until I saw this video 😂 I think I've activated it every single time I've ever played the game

[@RogueInfern0]

I somehow avoided it on my first playthrough of the game. I’d seen videos about 343GS before playing CE, so I was a bit confused when I didn’t get the broken lift

[@michaelsolomon3496]

@@RogueInfern0 huh, interesting, yeah I would have been pretty confused too lol

[@hiddendesire3076]

11:29 I can’t recall if it was just for the Anniversary or for one of the difficulties, but in one of them the marine’s middle finger is up. I burst out laughing with my buddy when we saw it.

[@jonwallace6204]

This may be the best video game level ever made. Short and sweet, perfect atmosphere, and when you’re good at grenades, it’s a dream parkour level.

[@SlothSG]

CE truly is something special

[@asder2036]

the broken lift is an Easter Egg? I remember I always went through it whenever I run the level....very much needed touch: you need to get out, you want to get out, but this is going to take a lot longer..

[@herrpez]

It's not. Video guy is just using the term too broadly.

[@vulpinitemplar5036]

They might have been able to get away with so many AR sections if they left behind a marine or two here and there, lure you into some false sense of security or something, hell they don't all need to even know about the Flood either and could offer some kind of unique interactions and such should they survive long enough to get that far at least.

[@vstrxl]

I'm really glad you're doing this kind of content, nervy. I've always enjoyed your streams speedrunning and I'm happy to see you making high-quality youtube content. Please make more!

[@AverageSol]

Something that is most certainly a bug but baffled me as a kid is if you go into the facility and reach near the flood and back track up the lift again the surface will have dead marines littered around the place for seemingly no reason. I thought it was intentional as a kid and wondered if those marines died trying to come in after chief but were killed since chief was meant to be the prize

[@olympian3]

yes this is a hidden easter egg that I only discovered very recently!!, is probably intentional

[@lingricen8077]

You are both incorrect, those are dead marine models pre-loaded to be teleported to the inside of the building later

[@AverageSol]

So not a bug? Which is what I thought it was@@lingricen8077

[@nucleja]

​@@lingricen8077woah thanks for this knowledge! years of mystery unwound. how amazing that those corpses are loaded there, I wouldn't put it past them to have put the bodies at that specific place to load later whilst also scaring anyone who ran back!

[@thoridannn]

Personally I don’t care about speed running at all, but I love cut content! Really happy I gave your vid a chance. Hope to see more like this in the future.

[@Insanebeast123]

In “The Flood” novelization of the game chief would actually grab the marine and try to question him only to have the marine just curl up

[@generalesdeath5836]

I agree with them taking out all but the best of the floating machine gun encounters. 343 guilty spark was definitely a case where “less is more.”

[@dutchdeluxe69]

Pretty sure that stumble animation at the end is used for when Chief exits the teleport at the start of the library

[@jebbroham1776]

This level really did terrify me the first time I played in on launch day in 2001. Me and a friend made it down to the vault where the Flood infection forms were kept, and when they began busting out of their containment cells we were were freaking out because the music and the chaos were just too perfect at relaying that fear factor. That was nothing compared to what followed though. When the combat forms broke through our only way way out we were truly in fight or flight mode and the whole mood was one of GTFO 😦 Only the first Dead Space ever gave me that same feeling.

[@brandonkoh8361]

For the floating ARs, I have a couple of things to say about it. 1. I think the developers were kinda going for a different vibe at the start. Cortana was basically telling chief that he needed to find the captain. That was her last order to him. So i kinda feel like the ARs were to keep goading the player into pushing forward since his objective, which was to get to the captain, looked like it was just around the corner every time. They might have been going for a bait and switch, where they trick you into rushing forward into the structure to group up with humans, and then show you how bad of an idea it was to come here when they reveal the flood. But I think removing the ARs makes the pacing of the level slower, and you pay more attention to the weird shit going on. 2. I think a reason why it was scrapped is because it doesnt make much sense. Covenant wouldnt be running away from humans, not this much anyways. If it were flood, then why would the flood keep on going further and further away from the chief? Why would we not have seen any signs of the flood like slime, body parts and mangled bodies? Also, whoever the float ARs would have been, they were going through the covenant lines. Humans wouldnt have been able to do that this quickly, and the flood would have attempted to kill all covenant instead of going past them.

[@HarleyHerbert]

That's a good point regarding the change in pacing, I've seen a lot of videos of newer players playing this level for the first time and so many people just rush through and miss a lot of the atmospheric details in the level like the blood splatters and the body piles, if they had made it so you were encouraged to rush through more people would have missed a lot of the stuff that gave the level the scary feel to begin with and it wouldn't have had the same effect. Plus slowing things down means you're spending more time wandering through as the tension builds, which can't really happen as much if you just rush through

[@FinancialStorm7]

It's really cool to see what ideas were left behind 20+ years ago. awesome video!

[@eanschaan9392]

I was lucky to have actually triggered the broken elevator when I first played through this mission. Really added to the, "oh crap," factor.

[@zippo71111]

I really enjoy doing these things myself whenever i mod halo. Checking through scripts and enable certain things that were cut. Some of it left from the beta and other things just seem to get left behind. I can go all day talking about the huge amount of cut content from halo 2 high charity mission, but one of the first ones are actually a lot of flood spawns on top of the bridge where you left during the last mission that are unused. Really enjoyable to watch this video, it's great to let other people see what could've been.

[@guitarbass22]

Loving this video. But about the crazy Marine…if you play any version of Cursed Halo, he will k**l himself with the backwards pistol almost immediately. While supposed to be a gimmick, it definitely still rings to me as creepy. So to hear the Easter egg about what was supposed to happen when you walk away from him…it all comes full circle.

[@andrewgeary9749]

Dang! If there's cut content in other levels would love to see what you find! Would be a great series

[@lenorelestrange]

As someone who played the original CE on the OG Xbox I can tell you that you can go into the crazy marine room post cutscene, you just need to rotate around the map back to it. I only know this because shooting the elites enough you can "kill" them, they bleed and their mouth moves but when they died they slump as if they wernt properly dead.

[@poobone]

This was amazing and fascinating. I hope you do a similar video for all 9 other levels.

[@thenerdpirate229]

I thought that everyone found the broken lift, I forget how to get out and then go back, and then find the broken lift.

[@zalrohglekgolo6149]

I triggered 2 of the 5 bigfoot sightings on the Xbox 360 back in 2006, and i never figured out how to trigger them until you mentioned that its going under the rught wing of the spirit. Outstanding. Also, im sure you already onow this but if you take the lift BACK UP to the surface befofe the reveal room, the bodies of enemies can be seen everywhere that weren't there before, implying the combat forms on the surface reset up the trap while you were underground

[@nucleja]

those bodies are actually loaded in for later in the level! just a happy accident they stored them there

[@LG1ikLx]

I need to go back and complete this game again. I feel like last time i done it i was to young to appreciate the work properly

[@locklear308]

Wait wait wait... when you come up to the entrance and you see the shooting... I always took this to be the marines and Sergeant Johnson finishing off the last bit of Convent troops before they took the elevator. Since, you know how you have to wait for the elevator? I always figured you were just a bit too late.

[@Accrovideogames]

I actually expected the crazy marine to shoot himself in the head the first time I saw him. After exhausting his dialogue and leaving him behind, I walked back into the room to check up on him. I was disappointed to see him still alive and staring blankly at the door in silence. It felt uncanny that he wasn't saying or doing anything outside of shooting at me if I step in front of him. This is in contrast with the crazy marine in Reach on the level New Alexandria. Once his dialogue is exhausted, he keeps crying and moaning until he dies.

[@ThisBirdHasFlown]

I’ve played this mission dozens of times and only knew of 2 of the Bigfoot sightings. Wow.

[@charlizard3011]

16:55 Funny, the first time I discovered that empty lift was double-jumping in the Cursed Halo mod by Infernoplus

[@comtns111mts5]

Fantastic video! I love seeing hidden/cut content still in the code. Great work

[@Dr_McKay]

My friend and I once restarted the checkpoint where the Marines run out probably 30-40 times in an effort to save them, one time we managed it, and they just stand around after and won't follow you.

[@Defectoboy]

Cool video. I love these kinds of looks into Halo's development. You should explore more of the series' cut content! I'd definitely subscribe for it.

[@Turtle3000]

Thank you so much! I love cut content videos for Halo. You and others like @TheVengefulVadam are doing the Halo community well.

[@MrVulcanator]

I didn’t even know about the existing big foot sightings. That’s a cool, creepy way to build the tension.

[@PurpleNoir]

Damn this is fascinating stuff, makes me want to go play halo again. Kudos to the all hard work you in this video bro

[@3dpyromaniac560]

I always enjoyed when you can get an idea of the developers personality in their comments and function names

[@impulsechaos]

This is actually such a dope video. Great work!

[@LittleRainGames]

Those ARs ars supposed to be marines. You are basixally right behind johnson. Its why you see the elevator going down or coming back up or what ever. If you go out of the map there is that marine near where the other guns would have spawned too. So I guess in canon they came from up there.

[@JackValeroMusic]

When I first played this as a kid I was so scared of the flood it took me a week to sum up the courage to go through this level. When I did, I actually tried to make it back to the original lift and remember the horrible sinking feeling of watching the burning pieces of it fall down the shaft whilst the music played knowing I'd have to fight my way out. Best twist in game history in my opinion.

[@donovandelaney3171]

We still don't know where all the other Marines were during some of the later levels.

[@taurusj3748]

The enviremental story telling as you chase sgt.johnson squad in 343 guilt spark is insane its fantastic it shows how much passion bungie had for halo ce

[@Cactar8]

i always went back to the broken lift because i was already lost and it makes sense just go back up the way you came

[@exaltedhierarch5070]

I just found your channel because of this video and I really enjoyed this style of content! Awesome video. I’d love to see what cut content exists in other levels.

[@jpkjnn6733]

I remember playing this as a kid on my computer - I could have sworn that it had that swarm ambush thing that just kept bleeding flood into the room, and I definitely wasn't messing with any scripts at the time. . It was stupidly intense.

[@CrAzYpotpie]

Calling the broken elevator an eastet egg is a big stretch. Also, I am fairly sure all the ARs firing were meant to be marines considering they are constantly shown to be moving forward, even using the lift. You say it yourself and the game shows us, the flood chase their targets endlessly, they don't fire and retreat. My guess is that the story for the level once played out differently, where you were hot on the tail of the marines entering the facility, as opposed to it being much later in the final. They probably kept the retail AR scene since it looked cool and they had already done the work for it, even if it failed to match up with the newer story direction. Would also explain why so many are cut. All of the ARs that were cut also lead directly to the room where the marines battled the flood, as well.

[@voodooopaque6357]

This mission scared me and my little brother when we played it back in the 2000s. Such a classic level, I seen stuff like this in games after but never in a shooter game

[@nucleja]

you need to play timesplitters future perfect, the zombie level is like this!

[@firebladetenn6633]

One of my favorite levels in videogame history.

[@SilverHyozanryu]

If I was to guess that final animation was probably meant to show chief exiting the other side of the teleport, and it likely made him feel sick or light headed.

[@LeTtRrZ]

The first time I ever played this mission way back in like 2005, I actually encountered the flaming elevator. It pissed me off, because I had no idea where to go at that point.

[@JENNIFERSAFFELL]

In the lift falling Easter egg when I first played halo ce I discovered the Easter egg while getting lost because I was 7 in 2001 and some how got my hands on halo but I thought that it was a vital point in the mission and it made the last inch of hope that me playing as chief would survive and it made the level a lot more scary

[@halolime117]

I always liked to think that the floating ARs were the marines progressing/holding out, never thought of it being the flood

[@YellowMuddyFeet]

I think theres a way to get in that room through the base game too without modding/changing anything, have to do a few tricks and you get to see the dead elites

[@BrandonFlint-ro2ns]

Yeah you gotta get a shade turret next to the door and if you jump out of it just right you can clip through it

[@crwydryny]

Funny thing that scene while you're escaping and you run into the fleeing marines who die in one hit. I managed to save a couple of them one time and they glitch out and just atand there frozen. If i remember correctly they die if you leave the room (it was a few years ago on the PC version)

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

Friendlies randomly showing up and then vanishing from your radar. That always spooked me as a kid playing this.

[@tjlastname5192]

I don’t know how many times I saw those radar blips without seeing the flood at that part. Haha

[@hudsonball4702]

There was actually a way to see the unused "Bigfoot" Flood on the cliffs. Just before you enter the facility (where the ARs are shooting as the Covenant grunts run out), turn right and you'll see some boulders and a tree root clustered together. If you can time your jumps just right you can get on top of the boulders, jump to the tree root (or maybe the other way around, it's been a while since I played OG CE) and then , with some effort, jump onto the cliff. You and can then see the edge of the level. Walk around up there for a little while and you'll happen to come upon the unused Flood just standing there. And they are killable if memory serves me.

[@VignetteQ]

Thank you so much for this! This was so cool to watch as as someone that has played this game since a very young age.

[@jacksoysauce7256]

Thank you for showing all this, its always really cool to see little halo details that have been hidden for 20+ years, truly a game with amazing depth.

[@CerberusGRivers]

dude I recall so long ago walking across the tree at the start of the mission and just coming across a flood combat form inside one of the trees. it was a while after I played through a few times but I've never be able to recreate that or even speed running it be fast enough to see it. was og xbox days so probs just long gone

[@tannerjolley7858]

i definetly want to see more cut content videos for ya on other maps. great video lad

[@BigHeadClan]

Yep truly a fantastic level, the moment after the floor where you finally find another elevator but it goes down instead was such a masterful moment of game design.

[@alfredforbessealy524]

16:49 on every single playthrough ever I always get lost and end up calling the broken lift, I assumed it's required

[@FrahdChikun]

I never knew about the first 2 "bigfoot sightings" in the beginning of the level. I've always saw the 3rd, 4th, and 5th sightings, but not those two!

[@neonnoir9692]

If you stay in the Pelican and walk along the top of the map to the structure and drop down into it, you just catch the floating rifles.

[@hfcandrew]

omg, year later still so much being discovered. incredible content

[@ChBgt909]

There's also interesting cut content in the second level Halo if you take a look in Sapien and the tags, including cut dialogue and encounters of fauna, hope you make a video of that as well, I've literally not seen ANYONE over a decade since I found those even mentioning it... so I hope you do

[@SG-fm9wd]

For some reason I never really got scared when the flood started appearing, I actually was like: "Oh, zombies."

[@left2eat1]

its crazy to see how smart the design choices were

[@ATP2555ify]

1:41 I never noticed that one. And the additional unused floating assault rifles are creepy. Makes the place look haunted by ghostly ARs lol

[@SkidzTheSlayer]

That broken lift sequence is actually terrifying to me for some reason.

[@brianlittleforest631]

I opted for the original lift on my first playthrough back in 2003. My brother and I managed to fight our way through the chaos back to the elevator only to have our relief come crashing down with the lift. 10/10

[@Legion69420]

For some reason I've always had this memory of 343 Guilty Spark when I played Halo as a kid, where while I was traversing the swamp there was a structure with a short, narrow platform leading in, through and out the other end. I remember jumping on to one side and then seeing a combat form just barely visible on the other side before it leaped away, and I had no clue what it was. And yet I've never seen it again in the game, and now I'm not sure if it was something that happened or a dream I had about this level.

[@Crudmonkey211]

It’s pretty much the sub-level 3 scene from Aliens. Johnson as Apone, Jenkins as Hudson. Almost scene for scene.

[@uss_liberty_incident]

The work you put into this video earned my sub. Thanks a bunch for assembling this for us!

[@ShadowDragon-cw7wb]

The broken lift reminded me of the elevator in Poseidon.

[@Cactar8]

the gunshots only coming from the bunker really give it a sense of safety when its opposite

[@crappyjunk5]

I wouldn't mind more videos like this on the other levels or games if that's something you'd like to do. Cut content has always been super interesting to me.

[@lingricen8077]

you ‘wouldnt mind’? as in, it still would inconvenience you in some way?

[@spartanwar1185]

I must have a mandela effect going on then cause i could've sworn there was a deranged marine in some halo game who suicides after being left behind Also i wish they kept the infection forms dropping from above, i feel like it'd be a quick and low-impact way to show that the flood are all over that facility Plus noone looks up usually, so it'd be a total surprise for first time players

[@phoenixwingzz2189]

for some reason I always thought the marines' chest armor looked like their ribcage permeating through their armor from like hunger or something or they were like skeletons rofl

[@MistaDisha]

I would absolutely love to watch more videos like this. I instantly subbed when I saw the thumbnail.