The Cynical Beauty Of Mindless Self Indulgence

[@punishedgremlim6104]

MSI is a once in a life time band. Rabbit Junk, Black Dresses, and Food House are all great with what they took. But they'll never beat Mindless 😎👉👉

[@MAXAMILLIONMAN]

Don't forget Uncle Outrage and Switchee

[@xLimito]

@@MAXAMILLIONMAN For real, Uncle Outrage is my favourite

[@qwerty-br9vv]

@@xLimito BTW he's releasing hew album!

[@xLimito]

@@qwerty-br9vv I'm one step ahead haha, got it on pre order

[@lilstinker2715]

@@MAXAMILLIONMAN Retard-O-Bot too

[@thejohnkaufman]

Just a wholesome, family-friendly Christian rock band. You really can sit there and feel the unconditional love they feel for everyone in all of their songs. ❤️

[@carecaruivo]

yeah...💀

[@ju4408]

Only if you play it backwards.

[@xythrr]

@@ju4408 real deep cut there

[@mindlessselfindulgencerocks]

@@ju4408 PLAY THAT RECORD BACKWARDS!

[@wispy_nova]

Fun Fact: Jhonen Vasquez, creator of Squee, Invader Zim, Johhny the Homocidal Maniac, and more, directed the music video for "Shut Me Up"

[@valefurrywaffles55]

Another fun fact: Jimmy wrote the song that Dib and Gaz listen to on Tak's ship in the Invader Zim movie.

[@jamesstaggs4160]

God I love that video. Super creative. Lots of fun to watch.

[@17twiztid17]

Pretty sure he did some of their artwork too

[@ChickadeeBoi]

He also did the album art for "If" and the short comic "Everything Can Be Beaten" was included as a bonus promo item with the anniversary rerelease of "If" on vinyl.

[@CrankyCanine]

WHAT HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS

[@brizzyxxriot]

I fell head over heels for MSI when I was 15. Shut me up on a crush's myspace page was how I discovered them. From 15 to 22 I saw them six times. Jimmy knows how to hype an audience but man did he get away with a lot that wouldn't fly today. The early to mid 00's were just a WILD fucking time

[@slipknotboy555]

This is over a year later, but it's kinda funny - I first really started listening to them when I listened to "Bullshit" on my ex's myspage page. Haha. That was like 2010 or so; I think I was in 8th grade or kinda fresh out (somewhere around there). Didn't really start getting into them until like a year ago, though. Never saw them live or anything. :/

[@DOLLH4US]

I got recommended MSI on youtube- it was their album IF. My mom was a MASSIVE fan of them, though, and she was enthralled with me finding them. My aunt and her got to see them live, and true to Jimmy's nature, slapped my aunt on the ass after bringing her up on stage. Also true to Jimmy's nature, she was underage. Regardless, my aunt and my mom both recount the whole thing positively and recall everything with a whole lot of joy. Through my mom i got introduced to a bunch of MSI adjacent things like Z? (or JTHM), Invader Zim, and i found some stuff on my own like Black Dresses (fantasic band btw!!). I would love to hear about your experiences with the shows, im a bit of a nostalgia fiend for experiences i didnt have ^^;

[@JanG859]

He had signs after the shows that would say Kisses for 1 or 20 dollars depending on the show. People would get in line, pay him, and make out with him. My sisters friend did this in front of us, and I think he was under 18. I don't know how that shit flew.

[@Electrohead92]

MSI deserves way more credit and respect than they get for influencing a ton of popular acts. 100 Gecs and Death Grips both have elements of MSI in them along with a lot of other artists like Grimes; who openely mentioned that Jimmy Urine was a huge influence on her. Their style is one of the most unique I've ever heard, even to this day. Frankstein Girls has some of the best production I've ever heard on an album.

[@graymads]

I could give you an entire grocery list of artists both big and upcoming that take a ton from MSI. Even I do with my music. MSI is just one of those unsung heroes sadly, they remind me a lot of bands like From First To Last, The Birthday Massacre, and Cartel for really setting the standard and influencing artists who became huge. I hope they start to get the credit they deserve. Also is your name a reference to Combichrist?

[@Electrohead92]

@@graymads Yes, it is. I discovered Combichrist through MSI when they toured together alongside THe Birthday Massacre. Unfortunately, I never got to see any of them live. Not seeing MSI live is one of the most upsetting things for me.

[@graymads]

@@Electrohead92 I caught that that tour! Adn yea not seeing MSI is on my list of regrets to lol

[@incaseofimportantnegotiations]

@@Electrohead92 they are old people now you not gonna see pissing on the scene even in 2015 live jimmy was just leksplay talking first thing he can come up with. like yeah that's better than those bands that literally do nothing with audience and just play music. there's real effort but it's not an oustanding show where the musicians have a live play or prewritten jokes or can really do stuff on the fly

[@themyth1990]

100 Gecs is more like a dry fake eboy version of brokencyde.

[@meqyuu]

telling people you like MSI is harder than coming out ong

[@manymantids]

as it should be

[@Pancakesnake3]

i haven't done either lol

[@Kurts.pretty.songs123]

Literally

[@dannyslag]

I got the honor of having Jimmy pour a jug of milk onto me.

[@hi3-xk4mz]

WHAT

[@averagekinnie]

LMFAOOO THATS FUCKING AWESOME

[@hissifit]

woah.

[@pumpkien101]

thats actually so cool! when did that happen?

[@Ieatmanydrywalls]

@@pumpkien101jimmy did a lot of things at like every concert, he used to give people kisses for a price no joke

[@tvbra1nr0t]

Msi has been my favorite band for years now and I genuinely haven’t been able to find other bands that can replicate or create similar music to them

[@missylee5]

And you never will! Everyone is so pussified now

[@worm8294]

@@missylee5 we just need to wait for a new band to counteract the pussy culture

[@OrbGoblin]

Tbh Frankenstein Girls is maybe one of my fave albums ever. I don't really care if they intended it cynically or ironically, it's the musical equivalent of chaotic neutral and I love it.

[@yuvan4244]

same i fucking love it

[@dani-manson]

It’s my fav album by them

[@justarandomcat2367]

I got into MSI because of My Chemical Romance and Lyn-Z (just like many others) and honestly I fell in love with them, you'll never find a sound like theirs anywhere else and both their stage presence and aethetic are just amazing.

[@winglessfairy564]

Literally same here

[@hazelXin223]

I'm really glad you made this video. MSI is one of the bands that made me who I am today.

[@hazelXin223]

Subbed btw. Forgot to do that earlier. Silly me.

[@sixsiicsix]

i've found that as time goes on, the name mindless self indulgence is definitely true. it's definitely more of a guilty pleasure band for me since it almost feels wrong to openly listen to them after jimmy's controversy/allegations/whatever you wanna call it, and i've seen allegations of harmful actions thrown at other msi members too. it's a band i have a deep appreciation for but at the same time it's surprisingly good to just have a sort of "brain shutdown" to and just enjoy the weird music without thinking too hard about the lyrics. i've never been able to find anyone who comes close to their sound, and i think msi doesn't get nearly enough credit for how unique and new their music sounds even today.

[@heckarockstick802]

so real

[@gdhdjhrhdj4009]

💯💯💯

[@mrspaghetti8147]

I think it should be noted “Faggot” is quite a serious song about discrimination against Jimmy for his sexuality. Incredible video tho! I’ve been waiting for a really good MSI video essay and I’ve found it!

[@graymads]

Thanks glad you liked it!

[@esslee4042]

Hey. Can you explain more ? Is he bisexual? I always wondered haha

[@mrspaghetti8147]

@@esslee4042 well, I’m not Jimmy lol so I couldn’t go in depth but he’s said before that he’s pansexual

[@beta5483]

didnt he groom a 16 year old girl

[@majime1246]

And about people labeling you as gay wether you are or aren’t.

[@striderreborn1467]

Jimmy also went on to do voices in videogames and even boss battle music for "Lollipop Chainsaw".

[@chungusmychungus]

I really wish someone would talk about Euringer, because its a really interesting reflection on MSI, but I loved the video! I learned a few things, this is definitely a band worth talking about even if they aren't for you

[@graymads]

I've considered doing a video on it. Though my feelings on it are very lukewarm, so I am not sure how good of a video I could make on it.

[@chungusmychungus]

@@graymads I understand that, I think it would be interesting if you ever had the time. There's a lot of Easter eggs and references to find throughout the album, example: in one of the songs there's the line "It is the omission of the words that gives it is power" which is a reference to the no-no word track on his first demo cassette. a lot of people debate too, if this was him going out and was his final album because he knew of the lawsuit happening before hand, and a lot of the lyrics seem to kind of jive with that idea

[@cairn4719]

@@graymads euringer is worth a listen just for do you kiss your mama with that mouth. died laughing

[@sjukfan]

@@graymadsI think Mindless Self Indulgence were for younger people and those with a young mind at that time, Euringer are for us old cynical people who can't conform now. Thing is, if the early albums like Tight and Frankenstein were released today both the right and leftist parents, and the young, would argue for a nationwide ban.

[@rockshmo]

Such polarizing bands can't go on forever, I wouldn't want them to return. Enjoy what they did create, over and over and over and over and over and over again.

[@russianmafiasmackdown1617]

You’re right, it wouldn’t be the same if they came back but I’m so pissed I never got to see them live

[@LivingwithPerks]

I got a demo cd from Sam Goody at the mall that featured artists like Linkin Park... but one of the songs on the demo was "I Hate Jimmy Page" this was back in '99. MSI instantly became my favorite band.

[@hades_-xz9rw]

Tbh, I always thought msi as a band was genius. I am more of a fan of the earlier albums, Tight, frankenstein girls. I think it's good to separate the art from the artist, speaking on the recent controversy revolving around jimmy. It doesn't not sound like anything else out there, trust me I've looked. And I think that's why I enjoy their music as much as I do. I've seen most of their live shows available just because of the fascination I have of the band.

[@hades_-xz9rw]

The hidden narrative by digibro (yes the guy who like lxli) made a video explaining the narrative behind each album of the band, and the way Jimmy views himself and others.

[@graymads]

@@hades_-xz9rw I bet Digibro's favorite song was Panty Shot.

[@graymads]

I am actually working on a whole video about separating the art from the artist. People tend to assume its only a handful of monsters that are in the music industry but from huge to small artist they are everywhere. MSI is far above Jimmy and his sins, and that's why I still enjoy them.

[@hades_-xz9rw]

@@graymads yeah totally agree with you man. And uh yeah, that's probably one of the only reasons why he listened to msi lol. But besides everything great vid, guess msi will just be another bizarre history footnote. 👍👍

[@maggotemma]

i think at a point its difficult to seperate the art from the artist with MSI...because quite a bit of jimmy's lyrics reference things that hes being accused of now

[@m00k61]

Love their entire discography. MSI fan for the last 20 years.

[@JayceeGenocide]

Me too

[@camillosteuss]

Same dude, same...

[@robotprison9320]

This was very thoughtfully written. Brought me back to why i first started listening to them in the 2000's. Thanks for making this.

[@katsu1455]

You won't believe how many people learned about MSI from AMVs

[@joshtoten]

And 90% of those people cite the Pokemon Bitches AMV. (...guilty. It was a wild ass time in 2001.)

[@GravityDontMeanTooMuchTooMe]

And mcr?

[@jakecoolhotdemonemo]

i learned about msi from the kokichi danganronpa cosplayers back in 2021 and didnt revisit until last year 🙃🙃

[@bard.adottir]

on a real note though this video was incredibly well researched and well made with tons of Information that I even learned from(ive been listening for 9 years which is since 2014) and no one talks about msi anymore so it was amazing too see a video essay on it

[@graymads]

Glad you like it! Wanted to do the music justice.

[@squirrels666]

I was introduced to MSI in highschool 15 years ago. And honestly, i didn't like them that much. The only songs people showed me were Shut Me Up and there other more popular songs. But when i actually explored their music on my own, i truly stopped giving a shit and loved mindless self indulgence. And i feel the same way. MSI deserves A LOT more notoriety. And IF, and How I Learned were my favorite albums

[@graymads]

MSI is sadly a forgotten titan but hopefully in time they will get more attention, its happened before.

[@nellcreate3349]

Yeah, I'm too didn't liked MSI that much after I heard their popularest songs, but when I listened through all If album and other whole I started to really love them.

[@FeathersPryx]

This is going to get hugely personal, and it needs to be so that I can make my point. Mindless Self Indulgence has had more influence on my development through adolescence than anything else ever could have. It taught awkward, unassertive, and self-conscious teenage me that it was ok, and actually pretty fucking cool to be loud and proud about being weird and gay as fuck. That you can be casually offensive without ill-intent. What originally attracted me was how genius his music was. The juxtaposition of clashing elements, the insane tempo changes without missing a single beat, how he is able to mash a thousand horrible sounds together to create a masterpiece. Their theme/music/style kind of created the entire atmosphere for my teen years. They "felt" like MSI. I would sit in the back of my SUV high as fuck, listening to MSI and having vivid daydreams about all of the perfect little idiosyncrasies in their style and music, how the themes all relate to each other, and why in the end it's all just silly bullshit anyway. There is not a single experience I can compare to these moments and I would give anything to feel that teen MSI atmosphere again. I was infatuated with the philosophy behind it and it helped me understand others and my own place in this world. We are all simply seeking the things that make us happy, and we should stop at absolutely nothing to make this happen. It really helped me stop judging people and to really start to be happy in my own skin. Where the lines between irony, satire, and shock value all blurred together, all being ultimately justified with the phrase "because I want to". This is the influence I needed. Jimmy could wear tutus and prance around singing about his parents fingering him. Why? Because he fucking wanted to. Then him contradicting his own philosophies (making a sellout album after singing about how awful selling out is, becoming edgy and emo after singing about how awful emos can be). This seems to contradict, when actually, it fits right in. He did it simply because he could. Why not be a hypocrite? Who are you hurting? MSI taught us that you can not judge a book by it's cover, that talk is cheap and words and lyrics are bullshit. But if these allegations are true, that flips this all on it's head. Our parents had a right to not let us listen to the old man singing about sex and drugs. That the shock value edge was not just a "fuck you" to those who tried to censor him, and is truly just him being a creep. I used this logic to justify panty shot's existence, thinking all his songs about pedophilia were either him pointing out how horrible it is that these things are normalized in music (I hate jimmy page being about how disgusting pedos are still hugely famous and no one gives a shit), or just him and his odd brand off ultra-ironic-edginess. Now there is a whole new context to these songs. If this does come out to be true, I will be ruined. The single biggest influence on my life was just manipulation from a pedophile. We were his fans with all the love and we were the ones who were fooled. Satire isn't supposed to be real, Jimmy. I really appreciate you going this in depth, as the logic behind their music and personality has been haunting me for a decade. Also one thing I noticed was that their albums fit on a slider. On the left side is "raw crackhead energy", and the right side is "smooth over-arching riffs". The middle is catchy hooks. Albums fit on this scale chronologically. On the left, Tight and despierta los ninos have raw crackhead energy. Frankenstein girls has a mix of the raw energy+smooth riffs+catchy hooks. You'll rebel to anything has much less raw energy but still keeps the smooth riffs and hooks. Then on the right side, How I learned to stop giving a fuck abandoned all crackhead energy and catchy hooks and went for very streamlined hooks, making it pretty unexciting.

[@ihateducks4500]

I’m not reading all that

[@beta5483]

He also groomed a 15 year old girl and abused her, hes now in a huge lawsuit

[@xs1358]

@@ihateducks4500 then don't, but also don't be a douchebag about it

[@whipstickagostop2239]

@ÅňöňýmøùŚö1ıđ shut up freak😭

[@whipstickagostop2239]

this is so me and relatable like u put all of my feelings about this band into perfect words that perfectly explain it all thank u sm

[@tousenkaname231]

THANK YOU for being brave enough to make this video! This band changed my understanding of what music could ans should be. I play MSI regularly along with The Birthday Massacre

[@graymads]

TBM is also a great band!

[@the_seer_0421]

@@graymads would you cover them at some point as well? I would love that.

[@graymads]

@@the_seer_0421 I definitly plan on it!

[@the_seer_0421]

@@graymads cool! They're my favorite band. This was my first video from you btw and I really enjoyed it! A well done little retrospective on the band if you will. I wasn't too familiar with them beyond their hits so it definitely helped me to get more insight into them.

[@zombiimo5280]

The first time I saw Birthday Massacre was with MSI 🥰

[@Jdoom13]

$30!? I have Frankenstein girls but I don't remember paying that much. Maybe I stole it.

[@ornevelder]

This video certainly deserves more attention. This is great!

[@graymads]

Thank you! spam your friends with it ;)

[@ornevelder]

@@graymads will do! :D

[@dorkthefork4900]

msi really is something, they have been my favourite band for so long. its just amusing on how they can make such unique music with all that emotion and feelings put right on in there. especialy with their side project the left rights, jimmy urine really is a musical genius

[@laraelkady3212]

LIKE A BAD GIRL STRAIGHT TO VIDEO 🗣🗣🗣

[@Greatestfratus]

You have some big gonads making a video about MSI after Jimmy’s allegations! Loved this band for ages. Jimmy shaped the way I created my music as a teenager and as young adult and that’s something that will never change, but since what’s come to light it’s just a shame… Much love to all the old and new (sadly unaware) MSI fans out there!

[@Slimebeast]

I wish the case hadn't been thrown out so we could see what came of it. As it stands, all we have are an album cover, a song, and a help wanted ad... and no response from the accused. It's frustrating, not knowing what, if anything, there was to know.

[@l1fef0rm]

Not condoning or condemning the frontman's "alleged" actions. This comment is just strange. He shaped the way you created music as a teenager and as an adult and that will never change... then say much love to "sadly unaware". Weren't you sadly unaware too? Is it the music you like, the lyrics/lyrics, or the "message"? What is your point here? You say the guy that made this video has "gonads" for making the video, as you back up the band, only to then immediately condemn them and come off as condescending toward the fans. Are we allowed to listen to/enjoy the music, or not? You can't have both. Are their albums still on your hard drive? Do you still listen to them?

[@ToxicWebb]

​​@@l1fef0rm I am pretty sure they meant that the new fans were unaware of Jimmy's actions, but by the look of the text that part was written a bit weird and should've been more clear. But he rest of the text I can't really decipher.

[@dorthelthree]

​@@Slimebeast the case was not thrown out. There is still a case against Jimmy Urine (James Euringer). The charges were voluntarily dropped against Elektra and the guy who does the bass whose name I forget, but not against James Euringer / jimmy urine. If you Google it like the updates on it, it is supposed to be served to James Euringer this year in october

[@Slimebeast]

@@dorthelthree It supposedly is no longer on public record.

[@NSN_CYND]

I got into msi when I was 13 i think I got recommended the shut me up music video or the Pikachu bitches amv i don't remember but i was hooked I think at one point i have heard every msi song available on KZbin i remember searching for Brooklyn hyped part 2 because i really liked part one Im not really into them anymore the whole lawsuit thing really put me off but i occasionally listen to the KZbin to mp3 converter downloads i still have, ironically I actually got into my chemical romance because of msi and now my chem are my favourite I even got to see them live I also really like 711 despite never going to one because of MSI and jhonen Vasquez Ok I'll stop yapping now

[@D3f3n3strat10n]

Just incase you didn't know, Jane doe and Jimmy both decided to drop the court case so idk if that proves if Jimmy is innocent or not but yeah, also apparently Jane doe needed money for surgery

[@Dang.-]

In case you didn't know (you probably do) but part 2 is only for live audiences

[@voixkin]

there is a new album (msi b-sides vol.1) that was released a few months ago. from what i know, its just songs that werent fully released

[@heizousfavourite]

I like b sides a lot cuz u can sorta tell which song is from which era (ex. sex for homework gives off hiltsgasalmsi

[@doublestakked1041]

Awwe c'mon, "Kill You All in a Hip Hop Rage" was pure gold.

[@sarahherbison5419]

If a Jhonan Vasquez comic was a band.

[@dibplushie]

jhonen and jimmy were actually in kahoots for a while. jhonen did album cover art/merch art for the band and directed the shut me up music video, and jimmy made one of the soundtracks in enter the florpus :]

[@xenos_n.]

Frankenstein Girls was a masterpiece. I bothered everyone blasting that album when it came out when I was 16. Even though their other albums were good, I don't think any of their albums match the energy and perfection of Frankenstein Girls, it was their peak imo.

[@joshtoten]

Yeah, that money Elektra put into FGWSSS made it years ahead of everything else. Nobody could ever create that album again, even if they tried.

[@XRL7official]

Great doc, MSI was a big part of my music rotation for years.. We were fortunate enough to have Jimmy voice some characters in our musical webseries X-RL7 before all the drama

[@Fupdernom]

So happy someone made a video going over all the albums and the intention of some of the songs. Awesome video! You went over a lot of stuff i didnt know too. Their music is so catchy, even though it's so highly controversial. Ive never found another band that sounds anything like MSI.

[@darthcarnage6734]

I love they got Johnny the homicidal maniac comic creator to create an album cover lol

[@TrippVomit666]

OH NO! ITS 2024 AND IM STILL LISTENING TO THIS BAND...ITS STILL A GREAT COASTER AND EVERYNOW AND THEN I FLIRT WITH HEART ATTACKS AND DO YAY OFF THE CD CASE...

[@kimackerman2183]

I absolutely love MIS and Jimmy. I discovered them throughout Invader Zim and the Lollipop Chainsaw game, they are a great band and a few years back Jimmy even liked a few of my tweets, though I haven't heard of them recently but can someone explain why Jimmy has been absent?

[@cataptromantia6831]

He was accused of grooming a teenager.

[@hars14]

he's raising kids :)) and maybe also bc of the allegations? idk tbh

[@chrisgartung1708]

Jimmy was in his bag for ten years straight he never missed on a single song

[@markwullenschneider195]

12 times I’ve seen them since 2003 when “Alienating our audience” Tour/albl came out. Anticipation of Msi live with Lynz at a half full venue. Never dissatisfied! My kids, ex, ex’s xs and there mom heart lil jimmy!

[@aliz-m2k]

I literally used the translator all this time just to be able to understand this video (I don't speak fluent English) it's worth it. I can say with certainty that there will NEVER be a band like MSI, two years ago I met the band, and no matter how much I listen to the songs, they never bore me. Jimmy's work independently as well as in the band is excellent, leaving far apart from what he has been accused of lately, good video :)...

[@Ghoul_HNTD]

I listened to If so many times in highschool.

[@5_t_4]

I just started high school, with an if pin on my bag and revenge blasting in my headphones 😊

[@xxdeadjhonnyxx]

Wow Great video, your narration and editing is very good and comfortable!

[@graymads]

Thank you so much!

[@KaiDecadence]

MSI was really one of a kind and I'm so grateful that I go to experience their music back in the day when they were one of the bands that I could've easily missed. I was around 13 going on 14 when I discovered them back in 2005 when I heard their song "Stupid MF". I can't remember how I came across them, I think it was from random searching but either way, I thought the song sounded cool and I went out and bought "You'll Rebel to Anything" album shortly after and it became one of my favorite albums, "Straight to Video" is such a good song. I eventually got around to listening to a lot of their other songs and enjoyed most of what I heard. Their sound was just so unique. Like the Birthday Massacre, it was hard to find a band that sounded just like them and I'm just upset that I didn't get exposed to their music sooner. And though their lyrics are randomly immature, it just... works lol And the instrumental work was already solid to begin with (in my opinion)

[@sempermiser.]

Nicee!!! I like how you narrate and cool info about a old band I luvv ^_^

[@graymads]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@Probablylani]

Something I learned is that I know less but more simultaneously about this band as time goes on. Like Poppy, I kind of gave up trying to catch up with the “drama” until more time passed. Because just when you think you know-you don’t.

[@theSemiChrist]

Love this analysis. Good to see people still making positive content about Jimmy and Co. rather than just automatically buying in to anonymous complaints about him. Also, don't think I don't hear that Silent Hill menu noise lol.

[@graymads]

You hear correct. ;)

[@tsunamijin]

I love your channel. I came for the doc on Malice Mizer because there's so little western discussion about them, besides MANA. Your essays have a strong MTV2 vibe to them. I could watch this right before Headbanger's Ball or the Real World.

[@graymads]

Bless

[@LautaroGalanCid]

I fucking love MSI and i love you for making this video.

[@420gzuz]

i really enjoyed this. been an msi fan for a long time. the only thing (justifiably) missing from your video was the left rights... but that's a whole nother bowl of skittles

[@doomdegree2584]

19:51 Man with due credit to KMFDM and Skinny Puppy, the godfathers of Industrial, you've got my respect and my subscribe.

[@Freelancer.Warzone]

By sheer random coincidence, today marks the day of me being an MSI fan for 15 years and honestly, there isn't anything quite similar out there One of my buddies showed the Shut Me Up video (which, like I said coincidentally, was 15 years old yesterday, as of me writing this, 23rd of January) and we just laughed our fucking asses off.. kinda fit perfectly into our kinda late, but still 2010-esque humour that would fully awaken during the Vine era of the internet. I thought it was just a funny video (because back then sending these funny clips to others through infra or bluetooth was the norm) but when I realized it was A music video, I did my best to find out who they were because I wanted to hear more. SOMEHOW I did not like Straight to Video initially and was a bit disappointed, but when I found IF, I truly fell in love Mind you, this was during a time when I only had mobile internet, lived almost 10km's away from school and rode bus to get to and go home.. but when I found out about IF, I went out of my way to walk home every single day because coverage was best during the walk (somehow the house I lived in was just in the worst possible location, 3G stopped 20 meters away from the fence.. go figure) and just enjoyed every second of it. Nowadays I'm bored of repetition and can't really enjoy things that I enjoyed one too many times before, but MSI somehow stood the test of time and I can whip out their entire discography while feeling truly entertained the whole way through. If I remember correctly, Revenge was the second song that truly stood out to me, and it wasn't too long before every single song had something unique and special about it that to this day makes it hard for me to pick a true favourite. CASIO, Witness, Cocaine and Troupees, Tornado, Pussy all Night, Do unto others.. your literal feelings and emotions during a day can dictate which song is the standout one, and your favourites go through a cycle during the week and it is really hard to nail down where they truly peak. MSI is one of those true "love it or hate it" kind of once in a lifetime bands that might not achieve success in the literal meaning or what most artists strife towards, but their fans might elevate them to a higher degree (than they might deserve, but thats subjective) I almost feel emberassed to admit that despite everything I love the music that was made, Lyn-Z is probably my favourite person in the whole world when it comes to music and nothing will ever quite get close to the feeling I got from MSI. System of a Down was a surprise to be sure because they gave me the same energy and crazy power that I felt during my MSI days, but I'll remember SOAD for their messaging, deep lyrics and sometimes gutwrenching themes. MSI is in a class of its own (duh, who can name a single industrial jungle pussy punk song in existence) and should be appreciated as such - a guilty pleasure of sorts.. Nowadays I'm a hardcore Keldian enjoyer and nothing in this world will quite make me feel the same way Keldian does, but Celldweller comes in close second when it comes to deep, emotional yet still hard songs and SOAD/MSI following along around the third place for when I feel a certain way. Not sure if my kids will listen to MSI lmao but will surely hear a lot about Keldian - highly recommended when you are coming down from an energetic, bombastic outburst and looking to slow things down and just let the emotions bubble to the surface And as a final note, thank you for this video, really well made and was sight for sore eyes to see someone doing something that isnt blatant downplaying and complaining, but not shying away from actual criticism either. Yes, MSI is a guilty pleasure, but we can't ignore the bad blindly

[@skeletonkiss1112]

A video on MSI? Hell yes.

[@sneakupandhitya]

bro i love long video essays and msi so this video was awesome. good work man 🔥🔥🔥

[@cairn4719]

absolutely CRIMINAL that you didnt mention stalkers (slit my wrists)

[@thatroverguy1937]

You forget to mention the tapes, I actually have one of the early tapes from one of their first gigs, I think there’s 3 demo/album tapes each has 4-5 tracks on em, and surprisingly a lot of the tracks feature on later albums

[@Mars-hx9wx]

You should talk about PINK, I think it’s really interesting! It takes such a turn from how MSI usually is, and is pretty dark considering how unserious they usually are. It’s also js my favorite album lol :D

[@Jaimepilled]

Found out about MSI a few months ago n immediately scoffed n wrote them off.. came back to their music a few days ago n it’s genuinely genius. It’s nonsensical in the best way possible and the production is outstanding. If happens to be my favorite, it’s full of nothing but hits!

[@diggysdungeon]

A band like no other. Hate Jimmy for being a piece of shit, but I still love the music he wrote.

[@enderbugg]

in the late 90's msi apparently shared a practice space with leftover crack, another band you should look at

[@A7XREV]

Great video man, I love MSI🎸🤘🏿

[@JoshieMadhatt]

Frankenstein Girls Will Be Strangely Sexy will always and forever be my favorite. While MSI never really watered down their lyrics or sound for radio You'll Rebel had the more guitar driven and straight forward sound than previous ones ( this is by MSI standards so OBVS we're not talkin radio rock or just standard cookie cutter ) But FGWSSS is the pinnacle of their sound. It's their most unhinged, it's the biggest middle finger to the music industry imaginable, it's them just letting their freak flags fly and go balls to the wall batshit and I'm so here for it

[@starzzixx]

This is super well done

[@virtualgyaru]

i wish i had the opportunity to see them

[@Bmorebirdz]

Amazing video. Thank you.

[@graymads]

Glad you liked it, got more retrospectives on the way!

[@WesleyEllisEsquire]

I wonder how many people found them because of a "Bitches" anime music video from Pokemon. That's how my friend and I found them...

[@CodyVondell]

who has full songs/sets saved from their early years before they had fans and would fight with the audience? like 1999-2003. most of these videos are no longer on youtube :(

[@cyxx414]

goddd msi is still such a big part of me back when i discovered them they rly molded my personality finally i had a place to be at w the weirdos and freaks jimmys allegations rly fucked it all up i used to idolize him this still hurts

[@IsmaelQ2Q2Q22]

You didn’t covered the album despierta los ninos from mindless self indulgence anyways great video I will always love mindless self indulgence forever and ever 🤘🎸

[@Sry342]

I also love Despierta los Ninos, it's kind of underrated but it's soooo good!

[@bedtimeted]

yeah!! and less than three is so good too (

[@hydetheghost]

they are fcking crazy and i love them for that.

[@Dr00zk1]

My first MSI album was Youll Rebel, but i remember audiograbbing all of IF on myspace when they were releasing it lol

[@Skollscatha]

Finally a good deep dive of one my favorite bands a fuckjng g classic

[@nesamdoom]

MSI is how I used to see if people wanted to fight in bars. I love me some fun.

[@sleepykat666]

Cant believe you didnt mention anything about "it gets worse" off their last album, its a banger. Also the Euringer album was actually pretty good. Not sure why it didnt catch on.

[@asha4736]

Of all the places in rhe world, Jimmy and his wife/kid are now living down the road from me in New Zealand lmao

[@XxIDONTREMEMBERxX]

Honestly I love MSI but I don’t listen to all there songs I usually just keep finding more as I go but rn I really like them! Really wish I was alive when MSI was touring

[@5_t_4]

That's literally my situation!! I started with 4 songs, but now I like 43!!

[@XxIDONTREMEMBERxX]

@@5_t_4 I COMMENTED THIS 5 MONTHS AGO?? I STILL LOVE THEM AND EVEN MORE NOR

[@5_t_4]

@@XxIDONTREMEMBERxX SAME BRO SAME.

[@theconman5540]

Mark David Chapman is one of the best songs they wrote, will always be a relevant banger.

[@B.l.u.w.i.e]

22:44 i go about things in the wrong way baby!

[@heizousfavourite]

ass backwards!!! >:D

[@EngineNo5]

I LIKE MY GIRLS LIKE MY WOMEN AND MY WOMEN LIKE MY GIRLS! Well, that line aged well.

[@MadisonGray777]

Great video me!

[@graymads]

Oh thanks me! glad you enjoyed it! 😜

[@NorsePunk]

You'll Rebel and If are my favorites, in the same order! And I had the same reaction and feelings to their last album. I only started appreciating it more almost a decade after it came out. I still throw them on occasionally, the band definitely holds good memories in my mind. Also this is the first I'm hearing about the lawsuit?? lmao

[@nealo6488]

Always been into them. I saw them on the 2009 Kerrang tour alongside Dir En Grey. BMTH were meant to be headlining but pulled out.

[@graymads]

That would have been an insane show

[@nealo6488]

@@graymads it still was. The K! tours always had crazy lineups.

[@CemalMirza]

I

[@sokwubz567]

they would be a good band if the vocalist didnt mindlessly self indulge on a minor

[@cats404]

this comment is imprinted into my memory for the years to come

[@MUTTMON]

this comment is so good oh my god

[@KiwiKelp_]

But he didn't. If you look at the case she went after like 5 companies and shit she couldn't even name then settled out of court. It was a money yoink. Idgaf about jimmy or any other artists personal life but don't spread misinformation

[@joshelderkin9592]

I honestly can even believe how many of these songs i remeber its been at least 14 years 😂

[@nogrecords]

ØRGY RULES!!! **STILL** just saw them in Knoxville over the weekend and they were AMAZING! *I realize that's not the point of this video, but you mentioned Ørgy, so I thought I'd share that with you* 😂

[@kennewell2172]

MSI are/were an amazing musical tour de force that took everything that came before them into an adderal fueled blender and laid the ground work for everything that came after. I was there passing out singles cassettes and dressing ambiguously zesty before Frankenstein girls was released. In the 99 to 05 era being a fan and part of that culture was the most punk rock thing you could do because it disturbed and alienated everyone from every other cultural clique. And that was the whole point. Piss everyone off while having a good high energy time. MSI are hands down the torch bearing successors of the Sex Pistols for the Millenial generation. "You ever feel like you've been cheated?".

[@arturos.l.2248]

What about Pink. Pink is one of the best albums

[@DeaD1te]

i honestly respect using silent hill pick up sound you use, as i have done for MSI for years

[@choke666]

I FUKKN LOVE EM' NO MATTER WHAT. THEY FUKKN KILL IT ON STAGE TOO!

[@smokedks]

Thanks for making this

[@Blady99]

I came up on msi (tight and Frankenstein girls). Honestly one of the most influential bands of my life

[@mikemath9508]

Frankenstein Girls Will Seem Strangely Sexy is the only album i bought, ever. I'd already been downloading music but I had to own that. gave it to a friend.

[@camillosteuss]

I fucking love MSI, even the preMSI works, bed of roses, unsociable and others... Just an amazing band... MSI was with me since i was 10 essentially, and i listened to them because that was the only music i had on a cd, burned from my bestfriends brothers collection... I loved them ever since and the love had grown greatly over the years... So much so that i lament not being able to go see them live, given that the band is on hiatus and aint seeing europe since 2013... In a similar fashion do i love the SOAD, and in the same fashion was i exposed to them... BFs bro had a great taste... It fueled years of my gameplaying and going out rollerskating and becoming more and more relaxed through time... And for what it matters, i am not at all moved by allegations... As a line goes in the fuktronic, ``honey, i am not too good to be true, i`m too true to be good... `` Also, wtf, ready for love is fucking amazing... i love their vast range of musical expression and capacity... Shut me up, straight to video, prom, 1989, due, money, bomb this track, eveningwear, 2hookers, toupes and... I mean, they are kinda like soad, being able to make and incorporate rhythms, melodies, sounds and instruments that are soft and gentle to ultra fucking hard and still make it a majestic listening experience... The If album is always on my msi playlists, but that dont mean i dont love the e.p. stuff, f.g.w.s.s. tight, you`ll rebel and others... Hell, i make me cum, but MSI does too...

[@greendayrocks559]

glad I got see them on the tour for their last album

[@kn1v3sthehomicidalmaniac]

Ala Mode is (unfortunately) not about ice cream, as whimsical as that would’ve been. Ala Mode is about Jimmy’s mockery of people who heavily sugarcoat negative things and cannot accept when things are, well, bad.

[@joshelderkin9592]

I saw these guys in like freshman year and i didnt see it happen but like right next to me somebody got their lip ring pulled out

[@MAXAMILLIONMAN]

Good video and interesting take on You'll Rebel to Anything. Thats probably my third favorite? Nothing beats Frankenstein Girls and the live album Alienating our Audience if you count that i certainly do.