That is text book on how not to log. The guy running the chain saw was rubbing it back and forth like it was a hand saw. Half of the trees were fell in a direction that would break then into as many peices as possible.
@j.grigor_3wc7 ай бұрын
What are you on about mate, these bloke clearly know what their doing.
@NoName-p5b8w3 жыл бұрын
In Russia it is called "barbaric logging". It is forbidden to saw on the slopes of the ravines so that there is no soil erosion. Whoever does this goes to jail.
@mattyallen33962 жыл бұрын
Just like invading a sovereign nation?
@303yerffej10 жыл бұрын
Nice display of the use of the Arch and winch the last two trees fell perfect, the first two looks like they had alot that broke off. Hard to fell a tree and not waste in that kind of terrain. Thanks for the video.
@jackstone16736 жыл бұрын
No it's not hard to not waste. We winch DF up almost vertical slopes. Every tree is saved to the tassle. I know the volume isn't in the tops, but you're only as good as your last job. Good arch setup tho. Slow dozer extracting on level ground. Wheel skidder... Guess they didn't have one.
@jessewatson1254 жыл бұрын
This is why logging should be managed by the right people!!what's wrong with people ??The greed for money is the problem and it's not the actual people that's doing the work it's the people that are on the other end!!
@redtussock5 жыл бұрын
Tight stuff for guys on the ground... rubbish trees? What a shit gully to work in.
@earlwarren594 жыл бұрын
This is where Home Depot gets its 2x4 lumber. Only the best quality
@ronaldwilkins60563 жыл бұрын
Lol
@owens353516 жыл бұрын
Hacks, pure and simple!
@poisonwater72416 жыл бұрын
They are slaughtering that timber! Man, I've never seen such wasted resource due to not knowing how to feel timber without total destruction!
@jamesfogerty30446 жыл бұрын
Haven’t seen an arch since the ‘70’s.. used to work behind one in big lagoon
@DenverPicker2 жыл бұрын
The problem is insurance is so high that training a faller isn’t feasible. You are expected to know what to do….A cutter needs to produce for the company to stay afloat. This faller doesn’t need to be fired, he needs better training.
@gregllyman6 жыл бұрын
Future landslide area this kind of cutting is nuts!
@bearsharkp39016 жыл бұрын
Is it desirable to have the trees break into splinters when they fall?
@benscoles50852 жыл бұрын
if they are looking for chip wood, it is ok, all they have to do is make several trips to get one tree....
@coryanderson75814 жыл бұрын
They are leavin half the timber in the bush...wtf????
@Tengooda9 жыл бұрын
What a disgraceful exhibition of forestry cowboys trashing a woodland. The felled trees are smashed and their value much reduced, the loose soil on the steep sided gorge is disturbed and will be washed into the stream during the next rains, the ground vegetation is largely destroyed. If you wanted a demonstration of how NOT to harvest timber you could hardly find a better one.
@groovy_bear8 жыл бұрын
+Tengooda You said it all. Damn, it is such a pain to watch this...
@Jean-vz8co6 жыл бұрын
Hé Gérald, Hé Tengo... si l'on fait de l'abattage libre les troncs descendent tout en bas et se détruisent complètement.... directionnel!!!!.... et quoi encore!!!...tous les deux vous parlez comme des pies!!!.. vous êtes des nuls.... Avec 25 hommes nous coupions 2500M3/mois!!!!.... je connais trés bien cela!!!...By.....
@marknothing58355 жыл бұрын
Jean BERNEDE ya yuele ses mal fais Pi tu le ser!
@justforever969 жыл бұрын
Okay, I'm no logger...but why not fell the trees uphill so they don't shatter like that? You could either turn them around as you winch them up the hill, or hell, just drag them top-first instead of butt-first.
@justforever969 жыл бұрын
+justforever96 Yeah, just like they did the trees at 5:30. Fell them towards the dozer, then winch the bases around as they go up the hill. Somehow I suspect that the commenters are right, and these guys are basically amateurs.
@StumpjumperVideosPA6 жыл бұрын
You rocket scientists give it a go ! Show em how it's done!
@jaredb69342 жыл бұрын
I'm sure the mill likes the busted up trees. Mulch?
@mallarysangel8 жыл бұрын
-- Some of the nicest people you'll ever meet online are waiting in the comment section. --
@Jean-vz8co6 жыл бұрын
En français cet engin s'appelle une ''arche à roues''..... cela permet de traîner facilement les troncs d'arbres... beaucoup utilisé avant l'existence des ''skiders'' ces grands tracteurs à roues plus rapides que les bulls qui sont nécessaires dans les cas difficiles comme dans la video!!.. dans la vidéo la méthode évite que les troncs ne dévalent jusqu'au fond de la vallée lors de leur chute... malgré tout ils se détruisent à moitié!!!.; Bonne vidéo... travail périlleux pour l'abatteur!!..
@pvtimberfaller6 жыл бұрын
Nasty ground but very poor falling that made it a lot more dangerous & wasted probably 30% the wood, You will get a lot of breakage but this was excessive. Oh & yes I log, mostly private ground. You would have to clean the debris out the creek & couldn't afford to loose that kind of money here in the US. Invest in a tree jack & somebody who knows how to use it. Loved the arch action, not how it was intended to be used (long skids usually with a bald face 7 or 8, they were used a lot in my area up until truck logging & rubber tired skidders made them obsolete) but it got enough lift to get the job done.
@markgenn89673 жыл бұрын
*I have lived in Wa., Or., and Idaho as a logger/and tree trucker for 30+ years. *I read the negative comments, and thought I would throw my two cents in. *This is a difficult and dangerous strip to log. *A video can be Very deceiving. *We do not know exactly where the land ownership, begins or ends, i.e. the cut line. Or what the contract states concerning trees felled onto private ground. *The faller is in a dangerous situation, [as usual] but here, he is even more so. *Steep ground, *Plus being "tied" to a cat, and another human/the cat skinner. Trust me,.. *it's On your mind. *Falling trees in steep terrain up hill where stumps are present. Will often cause the trees to become bound up between the stumps, when they are turned butt first as the are yarded. *We do not know if these trees will be saw logs for lumber, or chipped for pulp. (I've hauled many loads of nice "saw logs" to paper mills when the demand $ was high) * The video shows only 4 trees being felled, and one of them is 'schoolmarmed' near the top. *We do not know what debris/tops/limbs were left behind, nor how 'raked clean the finished strip was. *The rooted stumps will help with the erosion which will occur. But, again we do not know if, or what type of erosion control measures were put in place at the completion. *Trees are normally planted ASAP after logging, at a rate of 3 for every 1 harvested. * Private timber companies, private land owners, along with the National Forest Land and Timber Managers, do all they can to "Get It Right". Long gone are the days of "Rape And Pillage". Other than my rant; I must say; It was cool seeing an arch being used.
@foxpine3 жыл бұрын
well thankyou very much for the good comment there are a lot of people out there who wipe their arse with plastic and all of those logs on that job went as export and pulp cheers
@markgenn89673 жыл бұрын
@@foxpine You are very welcome.
@corncrasherandkidgilliam80075 жыл бұрын
funny how every you tube commenter is an expert. If this is "the worst thing ever" you haven't see many logging operations.
@aureliabarreto52634 жыл бұрын
TA
@serrariajacob11396 жыл бұрын
Sou madeireiro no Brasil, mas voces sao verdadeiro herois retirar madeiras de um lugar muito dificil.
@johnmcgillycuddy56966 жыл бұрын
where did they get these clowns ,,,
@mountainguyed675 жыл бұрын
Barnum & Bailey.
@Peterbilt3594 жыл бұрын
I have a 7G, it never occurred to me to use it as a yarder.
@rootloggins39516 жыл бұрын
Is that in florida?
@lumberjack10010010 жыл бұрын
They waste a lot of good wood
@OldBastardOutdoors10 жыл бұрын
That was the first thing I said to myself when they fell. Would never step foot on my land leaving wood behind like that.
@MikeD-lo9yb6 жыл бұрын
Lots of know it alls in the comments. That looked very steep to me, I don't think the camera showed it that well
@peteynum115 жыл бұрын
That was really cool to watch!
@brianquigley73363 жыл бұрын
Amazing bust o matic
@stevet81212 жыл бұрын
I ran a D7 with a rubber tired arch one summer but I never did anything that stupid.
@lesterkirby33675 жыл бұрын
I was in the wood for years on saws horses winchs forwoder harvester hand turfer saw winch .you name it i did it. But the way that saw man was dorking a the butt of that tree with that saw bar ... whell that showed how good he was ... cut it and run behind a nother tree 😕... the tops of the trees all smash up .... what a wast of timber 😢....if the forster or my boss= contractor saw that wast of timber = p45 and kicked out of the wood ... for good😢... helo frpm ireland😉...
@jerrygoad30932 жыл бұрын
You can all that equipment to get two chopsticks good work safe God bless
@bethanyhaskiell91165 жыл бұрын
Why are they damaging most of there logs
@648mainelogger59 жыл бұрын
why not add more chokers if you gonna yard half a tree! wtf Batman
@miroslavgrnjak67294 жыл бұрын
Why mast this trees die???
@50oldsmobile12 жыл бұрын
i think this is terrible terrian to log in but the root of the tree hold the soil in place, they are not cutting the roots and stump out. by the time the roots decompose new trees are already established
@RRRIBEYE8 жыл бұрын
Very poor logging techniques. You destroy more wood than you harvest and by clear cutting that hillside, that will lead to serious erosion and silting of downhill waterways. Unprofessional and one more thing...I LOVED the guy 'sawing' the tree with the chainsaw, lmao! That how you do that?!!! ha hah ha
@poisonwater72416 жыл бұрын
Mike .R. He was yanking that chainsaw like a one man cross cut!
@joeshittheragman18 жыл бұрын
logging with the Flintstones. Kind of a cluster..., gents
@foxpine13 жыл бұрын
This job was at Rewa between Cheltnam and Hunterville
@billyjoehornbuckle40485 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where this is?
@justforever969 жыл бұрын
What is that you zoom in on in the beginning? I can't make it out.
@deksper7 жыл бұрын
A shot of just how steep it is. Plus a shot of trees felled and left across the waterway
@andrewbrenneman95922 жыл бұрын
Problem is the lost lumber from the trees breaking against the other side when felling.
@terryknutson32026 жыл бұрын
I have fell Timber in Alaska. Cut trees down in Iraq. I wood not even finish watching this.
@michaelsilvey28145 жыл бұрын
Cut a few myself,, FOB Prosperity next to Embassy
@geoffbell1663 жыл бұрын
Do you cut your stumps 1.5 high like most yanks and your dopey humbolt scarves?
@bishopcorva12 жыл бұрын
Wow, that place looks quite hard to fall timber in and get anything out of at all. Although not bad for the arch use, it didn't look large enough to get out a swing yarder if one was available.
@tnbrfller11 жыл бұрын
Faller is in some very tricky situations here... Nicely done.
@Gasteraner15 жыл бұрын
Really interesting !! Never seen a vid with an arch! Thanks for that Alexander
@khadijagwen6 жыл бұрын
Sure ruined a lot of good logs playing cowboy.
@jaywiebe10112 жыл бұрын
Wow I've seen a few arches but never had a chance to see them get used. And hats off to that faller. That is awefully dangerous down there.
@crazyfarmer2564 Жыл бұрын
I don't think I would post this video. Very destructive of trees. Pull 1 at a time up hill while cutting and don't drop them over the valley that way.
@Thehoelogdog13 жыл бұрын
the timber faller needs replaced. What a waste of timber by breaking it like that. At least your not logging bobtail with the cat and are using an arch. but what a waste. Ant idea how much footage you lost in the draw shattering it like that?
@ivanbrown19615 жыл бұрын
what a mess you call that logging
@frasercanyonballer12 жыл бұрын
wow now do u use the arch do retrive all the broken tops lol pffttt
@jessewatson1254 жыл бұрын
The fish and streams only speak when there gone.
@therealbushwacker14 жыл бұрын
thats cool as shit, great operating skills!
@damkayaker Жыл бұрын
Well that was a nice little gorge.
@gettuff213 жыл бұрын
What part of NZ?
@lewiemcneely91439 жыл бұрын
Tough way to pay the light bill.
@roxteddy91895 жыл бұрын
There prob still working there
@d53west16 жыл бұрын
The title should be " How not to harvest logs "
@timgiles94133 жыл бұрын
broke ever tree and raping the forest
@benmurray86898 жыл бұрын
just a bit steep down in the gully and i could see somebody getting hurt.
@joshuanorris58604 жыл бұрын
Not their first time :)
@220jonnyblaze2 жыл бұрын
cutting down those nice big trees for what? all broken up pieces
@renanalves84616 жыл бұрын
Aí sim que é trabalho de profissionais.
@BenKrisfield5 жыл бұрын
I'd let it go back to native, and plant the flat in pines.
@chevyvictor9 жыл бұрын
chur chur. please stay safe guys. kia ora from Levin
@stevebeal65385 жыл бұрын
These people should have enough fines levied against them to ensure they can't afford to ever buy another saw! Pathetic way to work. So much damage for nothing. What a waste of trees. you should be ashamed of yourselves for the way you work, what you do to the environment, and especially for posting it online.
@Drew67095 жыл бұрын
Can't disagree there. These boneheads AREN'T for the proper logging techniques. A yarder should have been used instead.
@geoffbell1663 жыл бұрын
@@Drew6709 Its a low value product not worth putting a hauler in,in not some BC heli block of high value timber,yer talking shit mister .
@swn0214 жыл бұрын
arh yes the farmers wood lot nice and steep
@craigmcpherson18277 жыл бұрын
7G sounds sweet. Good operator. far from nice ground down there. faller doing well
@jonathanwilliams64424 жыл бұрын
Come on man that is low grade logging
@flyway444413 жыл бұрын
I agree with Mathewbanchero-cut trees and destory the land-talk about creating a washout-these trees were hold the soil. WTF
@Jordan27Wilson13 жыл бұрын
Looks like you have an short skid, always nice huh
@bofts14 жыл бұрын
Good video
@mattingly121710 жыл бұрын
Neat rig
@lingen29 жыл бұрын
Unsafe and unprofessional.
@DenverPicker4 жыл бұрын
Lingen Zwei fucking stupid. Most of the product broke as it does falling down hill.…………
@musicalibre53965 жыл бұрын
LE DAN SIN LASTIMA AL BOSQUE CUANDO KEDEMOS SIN OXÍGENO NOS DAREMOS CUENTA LO MAL K LE AMOS ECHO A NUESTRA TIERRA
@starship30955 жыл бұрын
If he fell them downhill he could haul alot more product to market
@astheboxchevyrolls235011 жыл бұрын
@ToxicHolocaust2050 one thing that we often misconcive is the fact that we humans are as natural as a bever or a deer we have taken the position of top of the food chain and to our dismay have made some poor choices leading to the depleation of some of our natural resources but timber always grows back it gows through stages like every thing like here in Maine our pioiner trees would be like aspen gray bearch and beach then once you have a canopy again you will get your climax species like pine hemlock spruce rock mapel yellow birch... by using good harvesting practice we can acually speed up the progress in a "climax" forest it took a long time to realize our faults as we are not perfect and like alot of things corprate intrest will always have intrest wich is where alot of the problems we can both verry much agree on arise but whipe you butt with hemp free tp with no fear the planet has been here for billions of years and its not gowing away any time soon and trees still grow every day I think the solution to our problem is education and responsible logging hemp is just not cost effective you would have every farmer in the us growing the stuff driving up the price of food please educate your self if you really care I my self am about probly 10th gen logger and up untill 40 years ago we could hardly make a dent on the forest now we can cover 200 acres a week with the rite rigging and put a hurting on the woods you better belive it but the industry is starting to squander at its own dismay things will run a cycle yes it will take time will we all die in the meantime no from logging i dont think perhaps we could divert some attention to the real problem at hand wich is america INC. and the corprate take over of this great land
@garengtutorial8923 Жыл бұрын
👍👍 mantaaaappp
@dozerman811412 жыл бұрын
Keep draggin that DIRT
@Levisnteeshirt110 жыл бұрын
that dozer could pull 10 trees no sweat
@dienmayvienbich5 жыл бұрын
hello ,invite you to play
@williambryant59465 жыл бұрын
Impossible? Nothing is impossible!
@issachauser30766 жыл бұрын
That is not how you use that
@leekohl8255 жыл бұрын
They do not know how to log
@matthewsnowdon6684 Жыл бұрын
Not many good saw logs....most will be pulp.
@schultzzschultzzkopf22337 жыл бұрын
Sure made it more dangerous than it needs to be. This operation is an accident waiting to happen.
@garrettpiaquadio8208 жыл бұрын
boy this comment section is a warzone
@mattywho84856 жыл бұрын
So is that jobsite!
@jimtaylor18655 жыл бұрын
don't look like they have a clue what the hell they are doing
@huuo13365 жыл бұрын
khai thác gỗ lãng phí quá.gỗ gãy hết.
@allenwrench90056 жыл бұрын
BUCHERS
@rodeolatipasrl99985 жыл бұрын
Muy interesante, estoy relacionado a la explotación.
@tobyvance8935 жыл бұрын
Thats some bad falling
@taiharris723510 жыл бұрын
highly illegal haha
@natenan559810 жыл бұрын
What part of this is illegal
@gregtaylor83274 жыл бұрын
The arch sure works.As for the rest....snooze.
@tutekohe13616 жыл бұрын
I have to laugh at the brainless, ignorant comments listed below! "Armchair experts" blathering about a logging situation they know nothing about. Please ignore them. That was a great job, fast, efficient and in very steep ground. 👍
@boardingpass0411 жыл бұрын
typical truck driver knows everything never actually cut down a tree just there to haul them to town
@juliecallaghan85925 жыл бұрын
Extremely xostly and extremely slow ..why could you not use a skidder with an arch and winch ..aome one sure has plenty more money than me ..
@werahik015 жыл бұрын
thats a waste of timber
@issachauser30766 жыл бұрын
Yo I got one too
@johnnycamposfernandez43796 жыл бұрын
buenas maquinas
@TheMullington6 жыл бұрын
what a bunch of criminals, that was disgusting. I couldn't watch it till the end either.