The D7 using the arch

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foxpine

foxpine

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@dannix1353
@dannix1353 5 жыл бұрын
That is text book on how not to log. The guy running the chain saw was rubbing it back and forth like it was a hand saw. Half of the trees were fell in a direction that would break then into as many peices as possible.
@j.grigor_3wc
@j.grigor_3wc 7 ай бұрын
What are you on about mate, these bloke clearly know what their doing.
@NoName-p5b8w
@NoName-p5b8w 3 жыл бұрын
In Russia it is called "barbaric logging". It is forbidden to saw on the slopes of the ravines so that there is no soil erosion. Whoever does this goes to jail.
@mattyallen3396
@mattyallen3396 2 жыл бұрын
Just like invading a sovereign nation?
@303yerffej
@303yerffej 10 жыл бұрын
Nice display of the use of the Arch and winch the last two trees fell perfect, the first two looks like they had alot that broke off. Hard to fell a tree and not waste in that kind of terrain. Thanks for the video.
@jackstone1673
@jackstone1673 6 жыл бұрын
No it's not hard to not waste. We winch DF up almost vertical slopes. Every tree is saved to the tassle. I know the volume isn't in the tops, but you're only as good as your last job. Good arch setup tho. Slow dozer extracting on level ground. Wheel skidder... Guess they didn't have one.
@jessewatson125
@jessewatson125 4 жыл бұрын
This is why logging should be managed by the right people!!what's wrong with people ??The greed for money is the problem and it's not the actual people that's doing the work it's the people that are on the other end!!
@redtussock
@redtussock 5 жыл бұрын
Tight stuff for guys on the ground... rubbish trees? What a shit gully to work in.
@earlwarren59
@earlwarren59 4 жыл бұрын
This is where Home Depot gets its 2x4 lumber. Only the best quality
@ronaldwilkins6056
@ronaldwilkins6056 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@owens35351
@owens35351 6 жыл бұрын
Hacks, pure and simple!
@poisonwater7241
@poisonwater7241 6 жыл бұрын
They are slaughtering that timber! Man, I've never seen such wasted resource due to not knowing how to feel timber without total destruction!
@jamesfogerty3044
@jamesfogerty3044 6 жыл бұрын
Haven’t seen an arch since the ‘70’s.. used to work behind one in big lagoon
@DenverPicker
@DenverPicker 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is insurance is so high that training a faller isn’t feasible. You are expected to know what to do….A cutter needs to produce for the company to stay afloat. This faller doesn’t need to be fired, he needs better training.
@gregllyman
@gregllyman 6 жыл бұрын
Future landslide area this kind of cutting is nuts!
@bearsharkp3901
@bearsharkp3901 6 жыл бұрын
Is it desirable to have the trees break into splinters when they fall?
@benscoles5085
@benscoles5085 2 жыл бұрын
if they are looking for chip wood, it is ok, all they have to do is make several trips to get one tree....
@coryanderson7581
@coryanderson7581 4 жыл бұрын
They are leavin half the timber in the bush...wtf????
@Tengooda
@Tengooda 9 жыл бұрын
What a disgraceful exhibition of forestry cowboys trashing a woodland. The felled trees are smashed and their value much reduced, the loose soil on the steep sided gorge is disturbed and will be washed into the stream during the next rains, the ground vegetation is largely destroyed. If you wanted a demonstration of how NOT to harvest timber you could hardly find a better one.
@groovy_bear
@groovy_bear 8 жыл бұрын
+Tengooda You said it all. Damn, it is such a pain to watch this...
@Jean-vz8co
@Jean-vz8co 6 жыл бұрын
Hé Gérald, Hé Tengo... si l'on fait de l'abattage libre les troncs descendent tout en bas et se détruisent complètement.... directionnel!!!!.... et quoi encore!!!...tous les deux vous parlez comme des pies!!!.. vous êtes des nuls.... Avec 25 hommes nous coupions 2500M3/mois!!!!.... je connais trés bien cela!!!...By.....
@marknothing5835
@marknothing5835 5 жыл бұрын
Jean BERNEDE ya yuele ses mal fais Pi tu le ser!
@justforever96
@justforever96 9 жыл бұрын
Okay, I'm no logger...but why not fell the trees uphill so they don't shatter like that? You could either turn them around as you winch them up the hill, or hell, just drag them top-first instead of butt-first.
@justforever96
@justforever96 9 жыл бұрын
+justforever96 Yeah, just like they did the trees at 5:30. Fell them towards the dozer, then winch the bases around as they go up the hill. Somehow I suspect that the commenters are right, and these guys are basically amateurs.
@StumpjumperVideosPA
@StumpjumperVideosPA 6 жыл бұрын
You rocket scientists give it a go ! Show em how it's done!
@jaredb6934
@jaredb6934 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure the mill likes the busted up trees. Mulch?
@mallarysangel
@mallarysangel 8 жыл бұрын
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@Jean-vz8co
@Jean-vz8co 6 жыл бұрын
En français cet engin s'appelle une ''arche à roues''..... cela permet de traîner facilement les troncs d'arbres... beaucoup utilisé avant l'existence des ''skiders'' ces grands tracteurs à roues plus rapides que les bulls qui sont nécessaires dans les cas difficiles comme dans la video!!.. dans la vidéo la méthode évite que les troncs ne dévalent jusqu'au fond de la vallée lors de leur chute... malgré tout ils se détruisent à moitié!!!.; Bonne vidéo... travail périlleux pour l'abatteur!!..
@pvtimberfaller
@pvtimberfaller 6 жыл бұрын
Nasty ground but very poor falling that made it a lot more dangerous & wasted probably 30% the wood, You will get a lot of breakage but this was excessive. Oh & yes I log, mostly private ground. You would have to clean the debris out the creek & couldn't afford to loose that kind of money here in the US. Invest in a tree jack & somebody who knows how to use it. Loved the arch action, not how it was intended to be used (long skids usually with a bald face 7 or 8, they were used a lot in my area up until truck logging & rubber tired skidders made them obsolete) but it got enough lift to get the job done.
@markgenn8967
@markgenn8967 3 жыл бұрын
*I have lived in Wa., Or., and Idaho as a logger/and tree trucker for 30+ years. *I read the negative comments, and thought I would throw my two cents in. *This is a difficult and dangerous strip to log. *A video can be Very deceiving. *We do not know exactly where the land ownership, begins or ends, i.e. the cut line. Or what the contract states concerning trees felled onto private ground. *The faller is in a dangerous situation, [as usual] but here, he is even more so. *Steep ground, *Plus being "tied" to a cat, and another human/the cat skinner. Trust me,.. *it's On your mind. *Falling trees in steep terrain up hill where stumps are present. Will often cause the trees to become bound up between the stumps, when they are turned butt first as the are yarded. *We do not know if these trees will be saw logs for lumber, or chipped for pulp. (I've hauled many loads of nice "saw logs" to paper mills when the demand $ was high) * The video shows only 4 trees being felled, and one of them is 'schoolmarmed' near the top. *We do not know what debris/tops/limbs were left behind, nor how 'raked clean the finished strip was. *The rooted stumps will help with the erosion which will occur. But, again we do not know if, or what type of erosion control measures were put in place at the completion. *Trees are normally planted ASAP after logging, at a rate of 3 for every 1 harvested. * Private timber companies, private land owners, along with the National Forest Land and Timber Managers, do all they can to "Get It Right". Long gone are the days of "Rape And Pillage". Other than my rant; I must say; It was cool seeing an arch being used.
@foxpine
@foxpine 3 жыл бұрын
well thankyou very much for the good comment there are a lot of people out there who wipe their arse with plastic and all of those logs on that job went as export and pulp cheers
@markgenn8967
@markgenn8967 3 жыл бұрын
@@foxpine You are very welcome.
@corncrasherandkidgilliam8007
@corncrasherandkidgilliam8007 5 жыл бұрын
funny how every you tube commenter is an expert. If this is "the worst thing ever" you haven't see many logging operations.
@aureliabarreto5263
@aureliabarreto5263 4 жыл бұрын
TA
@serrariajacob1139
@serrariajacob1139 6 жыл бұрын
Sou madeireiro no Brasil, mas voces sao verdadeiro herois retirar madeiras de um lugar muito dificil.
@johnmcgillycuddy5696
@johnmcgillycuddy5696 6 жыл бұрын
where did they get these clowns ,,,
@mountainguyed67
@mountainguyed67 5 жыл бұрын
Barnum & Bailey.
@Peterbilt359
@Peterbilt359 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 7G, it never occurred to me to use it as a yarder.
@rootloggins3951
@rootloggins3951 6 жыл бұрын
Is that in florida?
@lumberjack100100
@lumberjack100100 10 жыл бұрын
They waste a lot of good wood
@OldBastardOutdoors
@OldBastardOutdoors 10 жыл бұрын
That was the first thing I said to myself when they fell. Would never step foot on my land leaving wood behind like that.
@MikeD-lo9yb
@MikeD-lo9yb 6 жыл бұрын
Lots of know it alls in the comments. That looked very steep to me, I don't think the camera showed it that well
@peteynum1
@peteynum1 15 жыл бұрын
That was really cool to watch!
@brianquigley7336
@brianquigley7336 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing bust o matic
@stevet8121
@stevet8121 2 жыл бұрын
I ran a D7 with a rubber tired arch one summer but I never did anything that stupid.
@lesterkirby3367
@lesterkirby3367 5 жыл бұрын
I was in the wood for years on saws horses winchs forwoder harvester hand turfer saw winch .you name it i did it. But the way that saw man was dorking a the butt of that tree with that saw bar ... whell that showed how good he was ... cut it and run behind a nother tree 😕... the tops of the trees all smash up .... what a wast of timber 😢....if the forster or my boss= contractor saw that wast of timber = p45 and kicked out of the wood ... for good😢... helo frpm ireland😉...
@jerrygoad3093
@jerrygoad3093 2 жыл бұрын
You can all that equipment to get two chopsticks good work safe God bless
@bethanyhaskiell9116
@bethanyhaskiell9116 5 жыл бұрын
Why are they damaging most of there logs
@648mainelogger5
@648mainelogger5 9 жыл бұрын
why not add more chokers if you gonna yard half a tree! wtf Batman
@miroslavgrnjak6729
@miroslavgrnjak6729 4 жыл бұрын
Why mast this trees die???
@50oldsmobile
@50oldsmobile 12 жыл бұрын
i think this is terrible terrian to log in but the root of the tree hold the soil in place, they are not cutting the roots and stump out. by the time the roots decompose new trees are already established
@RRRIBEYE
@RRRIBEYE 8 жыл бұрын
Very poor logging techniques. You destroy more wood than you harvest and by clear cutting that hillside, that will lead to serious erosion and silting of downhill waterways. Unprofessional and one more thing...I LOVED the guy 'sawing' the tree with the chainsaw, lmao! That how you do that?!!! ha hah ha
@poisonwater7241
@poisonwater7241 6 жыл бұрын
Mike .R. He was yanking that chainsaw like a one man cross cut!
@joeshittheragman1
@joeshittheragman1 8 жыл бұрын
logging with the Flintstones. Kind of a cluster..., gents
@foxpine
@foxpine 13 жыл бұрын
This job was at Rewa between Cheltnam and Hunterville
@billyjoehornbuckle4048
@billyjoehornbuckle4048 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where this is?
@justforever96
@justforever96 9 жыл бұрын
What is that you zoom in on in the beginning? I can't make it out.
@deksper
@deksper 7 жыл бұрын
A shot of just how steep it is. Plus a shot of trees felled and left across the waterway
@andrewbrenneman9592
@andrewbrenneman9592 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is the lost lumber from the trees breaking against the other side when felling.
@terryknutson3202
@terryknutson3202 6 жыл бұрын
I have fell Timber in Alaska. Cut trees down in Iraq. I wood not even finish watching this.
@michaelsilvey2814
@michaelsilvey2814 5 жыл бұрын
Cut a few myself,, FOB Prosperity next to Embassy
@geoffbell166
@geoffbell166 3 жыл бұрын
Do you cut your stumps 1.5 high like most yanks and your dopey humbolt scarves?
@bishopcorva
@bishopcorva 12 жыл бұрын
Wow, that place looks quite hard to fall timber in and get anything out of at all. Although not bad for the arch use, it didn't look large enough to get out a swing yarder if one was available.
@tnbrfller
@tnbrfller 11 жыл бұрын
Faller is in some very tricky situations here... Nicely done.
@Gasteraner
@Gasteraner 15 жыл бұрын
Really interesting !! Never seen a vid with an arch! Thanks for that Alexander
@khadijagwen
@khadijagwen 6 жыл бұрын
Sure ruined a lot of good logs playing cowboy.
@jaywiebe101
@jaywiebe101 12 жыл бұрын
Wow I've seen a few arches but never had a chance to see them get used. And hats off to that faller. That is awefully dangerous down there.
@crazyfarmer2564
@crazyfarmer2564 Жыл бұрын
I don't think I would post this video. Very destructive of trees. Pull 1 at a time up hill while cutting and don't drop them over the valley that way.
@Thehoelogdog
@Thehoelogdog 13 жыл бұрын
the timber faller needs replaced. What a waste of timber by breaking it like that. At least your not logging bobtail with the cat and are using an arch. but what a waste. Ant idea how much footage you lost in the draw shattering it like that?
@ivanbrown1961
@ivanbrown1961 5 жыл бұрын
what a mess you call that logging
@frasercanyonballer
@frasercanyonballer 12 жыл бұрын
wow now do u use the arch do retrive all the broken tops lol pffttt
@jessewatson125
@jessewatson125 4 жыл бұрын
The fish and streams only speak when there gone.
@therealbushwacker
@therealbushwacker 14 жыл бұрын
thats cool as shit, great operating skills!
@damkayaker
@damkayaker Жыл бұрын
Well that was a nice little gorge.
@gettuff2
@gettuff2 13 жыл бұрын
What part of NZ?
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 9 жыл бұрын
Tough way to pay the light bill.
@roxteddy9189
@roxteddy9189 5 жыл бұрын
There prob still working there
@d53west1
@d53west1 6 жыл бұрын
The title should be " How not to harvest logs "
@timgiles9413
@timgiles9413 3 жыл бұрын
broke ever tree and raping the forest
@benmurray8689
@benmurray8689 8 жыл бұрын
just a bit steep down in the gully and i could see somebody getting hurt.
@joshuanorris5860
@joshuanorris5860 4 жыл бұрын
Not their first time :)
@220jonnyblaze
@220jonnyblaze 2 жыл бұрын
cutting down those nice big trees for what? all broken up pieces
@renanalves8461
@renanalves8461 6 жыл бұрын
Aí sim que é trabalho de profissionais.
@BenKrisfield
@BenKrisfield 5 жыл бұрын
I'd let it go back to native, and plant the flat in pines.
@chevyvictor
@chevyvictor 9 жыл бұрын
chur chur. please stay safe guys. kia ora from Levin
@stevebeal6538
@stevebeal6538 5 жыл бұрын
These people should have enough fines levied against them to ensure they can't afford to ever buy another saw! Pathetic way to work. So much damage for nothing. What a waste of trees. you should be ashamed of yourselves for the way you work, what you do to the environment, and especially for posting it online.
@Drew6709
@Drew6709 5 жыл бұрын
Can't disagree there. These boneheads AREN'T for the proper logging techniques. A yarder should have been used instead.
@geoffbell166
@geoffbell166 3 жыл бұрын
@@Drew6709 Its a low value product not worth putting a hauler in,in not some BC heli block of high value timber,yer talking shit mister .
@swn02
@swn02 14 жыл бұрын
arh yes the farmers wood lot nice and steep
@craigmcpherson1827
@craigmcpherson1827 7 жыл бұрын
7G sounds sweet. Good operator. far from nice ground down there. faller doing well
@jonathanwilliams6442
@jonathanwilliams6442 4 жыл бұрын
Come on man that is low grade logging
@flyway4444
@flyway4444 13 жыл бұрын
I agree with Mathewbanchero-cut trees and destory the land-talk about creating a washout-these trees were hold the soil. WTF
@Jordan27Wilson
@Jordan27Wilson 13 жыл бұрын
Looks like you have an short skid, always nice huh
@bofts
@bofts 14 жыл бұрын
Good video
@mattingly1217
@mattingly1217 10 жыл бұрын
Neat rig
@lingen2
@lingen2 9 жыл бұрын
Unsafe and unprofessional.
@DenverPicker
@DenverPicker 4 жыл бұрын
Lingen Zwei fucking stupid. Most of the product broke as it does falling down hill.…………
@musicalibre5396
@musicalibre5396 5 жыл бұрын
LE DAN SIN LASTIMA AL BOSQUE CUANDO KEDEMOS SIN OXÍGENO NOS DAREMOS CUENTA LO MAL K LE AMOS ECHO A NUESTRA TIERRA
@starship3095
@starship3095 5 жыл бұрын
If he fell them downhill he could haul alot more product to market
@astheboxchevyrolls2350
@astheboxchevyrolls2350 11 жыл бұрын
@ToxicHolocaust2050 one thing that we often misconcive is the fact that we humans are as natural as a bever or a deer we have taken the position of top of the food chain and to our dismay have made some poor choices leading to the depleation of some of our natural resources but timber always grows back it gows through stages like every thing like here in Maine our pioiner trees would be like aspen gray bearch and beach then once you have a canopy again you will get your climax species like pine hemlock spruce rock mapel yellow birch... by using good harvesting practice we can acually speed up the progress in a "climax" forest it took a long time to realize our faults as we are not perfect and like alot of things corprate intrest will always have intrest wich is where alot of the problems we can both verry much agree on arise but whipe you butt with hemp free tp with no fear the planet has been here for billions of years and its not gowing away any time soon and trees still grow every day I think the solution to our problem is education and responsible logging hemp is just not cost effective you would have every farmer in the us growing the stuff driving up the price of food please educate your self if you really care I my self am about probly 10th gen logger and up untill 40 years ago we could hardly make a dent on the forest now we can cover 200 acres a week with the rite rigging and put a hurting on the woods you better belive it but the industry is starting to squander at its own dismay things will run a cycle yes it will take time will we all die in the meantime no from logging i dont think perhaps we could divert some attention to the real problem at hand wich is america INC. and the corprate take over of this great land
@garengtutorial8923
@garengtutorial8923 Жыл бұрын
👍👍 mantaaaappp
@dozerman8114
@dozerman8114 12 жыл бұрын
Keep draggin that DIRT
@Levisnteeshirt1
@Levisnteeshirt1 10 жыл бұрын
that dozer could pull 10 trees no sweat
@dienmayvienbich
@dienmayvienbich 5 жыл бұрын
hello ,invite you to play
@williambryant5946
@williambryant5946 5 жыл бұрын
Impossible? Nothing is impossible!
@issachauser3076
@issachauser3076 6 жыл бұрын
That is not how you use that
@leekohl825
@leekohl825 5 жыл бұрын
They do not know how to log
@matthewsnowdon6684
@matthewsnowdon6684 Жыл бұрын
Not many good saw logs....most will be pulp.
@schultzzschultzzkopf2233
@schultzzschultzzkopf2233 7 жыл бұрын
Sure made it more dangerous than it needs to be. This operation is an accident waiting to happen.
@garrettpiaquadio820
@garrettpiaquadio820 8 жыл бұрын
boy this comment section is a warzone
@mattywho8485
@mattywho8485 6 жыл бұрын
So is that jobsite!
@jimtaylor1865
@jimtaylor1865 5 жыл бұрын
don't look like they have a clue what the hell they are doing
@huuo1336
@huuo1336 5 жыл бұрын
khai thác gỗ lãng phí quá.gỗ gãy hết.
@allenwrench9005
@allenwrench9005 6 жыл бұрын
BUCHERS
@rodeolatipasrl9998
@rodeolatipasrl9998 5 жыл бұрын
Muy interesante, estoy relacionado a la explotación.
@tobyvance893
@tobyvance893 5 жыл бұрын
Thats some bad falling
@taiharris7235
@taiharris7235 10 жыл бұрын
highly illegal haha
@natenan5598
@natenan5598 10 жыл бұрын
What part of this is illegal
@gregtaylor8327
@gregtaylor8327 4 жыл бұрын
The arch sure works.As for the rest....snooze.
@tutekohe1361
@tutekohe1361 6 жыл бұрын
I have to laugh at the brainless, ignorant comments listed below! "Armchair experts" blathering about a logging situation they know nothing about. Please ignore them. That was a great job, fast, efficient and in very steep ground. 👍
@boardingpass04
@boardingpass04 11 жыл бұрын
typical truck driver knows everything never actually cut down a tree just there to haul them to town
@juliecallaghan8592
@juliecallaghan8592 5 жыл бұрын
Extremely xostly and extremely slow ..why could you not use a skidder with an arch and winch ..aome one sure has plenty more money than me ..
@werahik0
@werahik0 15 жыл бұрын
thats a waste of timber
@issachauser3076
@issachauser3076 6 жыл бұрын
Yo I got one too
@johnnycamposfernandez4379
@johnnycamposfernandez4379 6 жыл бұрын
buenas maquinas
@TheMullington
@TheMullington 6 жыл бұрын
what a bunch of criminals, that was disgusting. I couldn't watch it till the end either.
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