The Dangerous Myth Of The

[@meepcity48]

"No empire was ever built without stepping on someone else." Well said

[@rosacentifollia]

They all were actually. ;)

[@Belacroix5]

@@rosacentifollia right?

[@Thatbitch_93]

Daaaaamn

[@user-hq6gt6wr9k]

Beyond impressed you referenced Living Single and that minority women were included in your very well-delivered discussion. Keep it coming 😊

[@smithmarina970]

Yes!! I was pleasantly surprised.

[@MicahRion]

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[@thefinancialdiet]

Thank you for your feedback !

[@shilohmugar5668]

I completely agree @Hey Kita Hey! That was a pleasant and much needed surprise!

[@SS-vz8qp]

Agreed. Also, I did not know that Kyle and Maxine were in a spin-off. Now I have to find "Half and Half"!

[@lisareadsbooks6045]

I love Chelsea, and if anyone has to replace her for a month, I can't think of anyone better than Lindsay- I love your critical, almost academic style. Looking forward to next week!

[@matesafranka6110]

I _wish_ my professors had had Lindsey's academic style when I used to be in an English major. I might even have graduated then.

[@lettea.437]

Yep. Very refreshing. Thought that back ground music did not help!

[@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend]

I wouldn't call it _almost_ academic! It _is_ academic.

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

Man I wish they still had Pop Culture Portfolio

[@amateurastronomer9752]

My biggest problem with #girlboss is how forced on women it seems. I don’t really want to be an entrepreneur or high earner, yet I constantly question this because of how much it’s trending.

[@GlamGoddes101]

Bre Thinks I don’t think the #girlboss thing was made to make all women feel like they have to be entrepreneurs/high earners, I think it was made to empower those who want to be and remind us that it’s possible

[@amateurastronomer9752]

GlamGoddes101 I agree that it wasn’t the intention of #girlboss but it does seem like a result.

[@dwc1964]

@@GlamGoddes101 I disagree, I think that's entirely the message - in precise parallel to the model of "success" presented to men, but with added, um, issues. The entire value system of capitalism is about rising up in the hierarchy of money, power, "success." This justifies the position of those in power as being, of course, the result of their being "successful" at whatever they did that got them there in the first place (never mind that in the vast majority of cases, it was successfully being born to a family with pre-existing wealth/power). The entire point of "aspirational" messaging is not about "empowering" the viewer to rise in the hierarchy; it is the nature of hierarchies that the number of available positions on the higher levels is much smaller than on the lower, so there's only so many people who can be realistically "empowered" under any circumstances. Rather it's to keep us clawing and competing against each other for those limited spots, accepting the narrative that "success" is correlated with "merit," and above all else never questioning the hierarchical arrangement in the first place.

[@chancletadeldiablo894]

@@dwc1964 exactly!

[@Mikirono23]

Thank you well said. Like there so many people who don't really want to become rich but they want the attention or can't think for themselves. Its okay if you don't have the same dreams as someone else be genuine to you and what makes you happy. Just buy a house or land and live life how you want to. Geez everybody think they want to become rich and wealthy but don't know why.

[@meredithwhite272]

Another issue I have with the girlboss narrative is that is distorts what a working woman looks like. We need to celebrate working class women. Not just the ones that are executives at problematic corporations. Being an executive at an oil company, for example, isn't a good form of feminism. Women do tend to be more drawn to pro-social careers. Women are more likely to become teachers, nurses, most nonprofits I have experience with are female dominated. These are all careers where someone may have a great impact on the lives of others, but they may not be paid a high salary for it.

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

Also thinking of Coco where the great-great-grandmother started a shoe business that lasted decades after her death and ensures the family stays comfortable because whether the economy falls or rises, people will need shoes.

[@xfairfaeriex]

What makes it worse is that because of the tendency to dominate pro-social careers, women are often guilt tripped into doing more and more work for no extra compensation because they're doing it for the kids/sick/underprivileged. It's very exploitative.

[@MaddyBlu9724]

I slammed that like button when Lindsay brought up how women now work as much as men, but are still doing most of the child rearing and unpaid household labor.

[@RonJohn63]

It's *your* fault for not beating your boyfriend/husband every time he slacks off.

[@GinHindew110]

Emm... no? The pay gap exists precisely because women work less hours than men And women are the primary receivers of welfare on account of children, society has several safety nets for women precisely because of childcare Also, werent "Strong &independent" women refusing or delaying childbirth? Women have decreased their traditional maternal duties but still receive the traditional maternal benefits, and men also do house chores now and we can tell they are not really hard, but lower marriage and childbirth rates means they are doing work and house chores for themselves, thats just regular self responsibility and has nothing to do with gender

[@4Distractiononly]

Well ya big surprise there

[@banu0245]

@@GinHindew110 women work less hours because the do more house chores, according to statistic data in this video. Gender shouldn't matter there, yet it still does. (Althoug I do think it's a personal life choice. I work two jobs and my house is a mess, but both me and my bf live in a mess and just don't care most of the time. He cooks sometimes because he likes to cook, I prefer to eat out or to make a very simple quick dish). Also, how do women receive maternal benefits when they decide to not have children or delaying childbirth? In that case they just work as much as men and don't have any additional benefits.

[@YourOasis97]

@@banu0245 most women work less hours because of kids.

[@Mimi-cq4bg]

"...unmaternal...." I can almost taste the disdain. I'm a mom and it enrages me that women are always reduced to their maternal traits.

[@RonJohn63]

Are men reduced to their manly traits?

[@miaumiau679]

@@RonJohn63 yes, and it's a patriarcal concept as well so i don't know where you are trying to get at...

[@RonJohn63]

@@miaumiau679 given our sexual dimorphism and close genetic relation to two other sexually dimorphic and patriarchal species (chimps and gorillas) *could it be* that we've got so many patriarchal concepts because we're a patriarchal species?

[@miaumiau679]

@@RonJohn63 ok, so, let me analyse this. you believe there is sexism against men (you pointed this out in your first comment) but on your second comment you justify this sexism by making an appeal to nature argument. What do you really believe in?? Like, do you think that sexism against men is justified because of nature? Or do you believe that sexism against men is wrong but you still want to live in a patriarchal society??

[@biazacha]

@@miaumiau679 the second theory is what most of the men that make sure to #NotAllMen really think; all the guys I know that work against sexism don't feel the need to exclude themselves from the priviledge narrative because they recognize it as it is.

[@teaganbowie2340]

I feel like we glossed over the opportunity gap created by childbirth. Women loose time in the workforce with pregnancy and childbirth, that is a big factor in losing out on promotions

[@thatjillgirl]

Indeed. Until we as a society make it easier for women to be gone on a (generous) maternity leave and still have a job to step back into when its over, we're going to keep having this problem.

[@mattpaxton3528]

or women being overlooked for positions in the first place thanks to employers being "afraid to invest in them" because they will just get pregnant and leave.

[@klaudiaw8518]

@@thatjillgirl I feel sorry for all women in America if you have this kind of problems, I have stabile work and I know if I ever get pregnant I will have support from my company and my government, I will have maternity live and I can't stop working before childbirth on sick-live to prepare my self, I will get pay, My and my baby have free health care I don't have to pay to give birth or for anything, if I will not choose private. Also after maternity live I can come back to my job and my position will be waiting for me because pregnant women and mothers are protected by low.

[@thatjillgirl]

@@klaudiaw8518 Not all women in America have this problem, but it is completely up to their employer, so some do. Since there is no federally mandated minimum maternity leave, it is up to each employer how much they will offer, for how long, and to which employees. Many of us do get some paid maternity leave, but some women aren't given any or they don't qualify because they aren't full time.

[@klaudiaw8518]

@Elizabeth D I agree that the father should have the opportunity to stay at home with the child if it's necessary like for example when the mother has to go back to work or she just make more money then him. I don't agree that both of parents should be at home while the child is still a baby, he is not needed, it's better for men to work, for his mental sake but doesn't mean that he shouldn't help with the baby when women are tired or just want a break. Going back to maternity leave in the USA, to have equal rights and equal opportunities for pregnant women Government should make a low that all companies will adapt.

[@amantlemapoka2396]

One of my favorite representations of a girlboss in recent pop culture was the boss in The Bold Type. She was so realistic and clearly written by a woman. She had a family and was also invested in being a mentor to her employees. Love her! Miranda Priestly wishes.

[@katsweeterly2039]

❣️ ❣️ ❣️ Word

[@AJ-nx1bx]

👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@estherwanjiku9691]

👌👌

[@SL-lz9jr]

Yes! Well rounded and balanced.

[@Katellabe]

All the woman in that show are amazing.

[@mimimurlough]

Lindsay: "Hey guys, I'm Lindsay Ellis" me: *liked* Seriously though, it's kinda tragic how any modern rich country can fall into the work vs. family dichotomy trap. As far as I have seen, the relationships and support you have in private are crucial to success if anything. So many even moderately successful women have the kind of supportive man behind them that can sadly be counted as extraordinary. Rich people pay to have housework done to save time. In my country, daycare became a major political issue in the 70's precisely because women can't usually work if it isn't available, and that's also a big reason to why split parental leave is so important. Few myths in the modern world are so dangerous as the one that one person can achieve anything on their own.

[@juliacoulthard2380]

I love how you mentioned medical bills, amen to that amen to that!

[@fionafiona1146]

My international insurance (no network limits) was cheaper than anything anyone around me had while I was in the states (at 1/3 more expensive than usual insurance in Germany).

[@aleka..]

@@fionafiona1146 We know it's US centric when one mentions medical bills as significant to finances... I'm always so sorry when I hear it...

[@fionafiona1146]

@@aleka.. We could talk about the Singapore model and how much republicans could demand "independence" on its basis.

[@aleka..]

@@fionafiona1146 Guess I don't know my _US Republicans' talking points_ well, haven't heard of Singapore model mentioned... so, lended here www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/25/15356118/singapore-health-care-system-explained to try to get what you meant, but still didn't 🤷🏻, sorry. I learned something new tho.

[@biazacha]

@@aleka.. exactly; this is particularly damaging when it comes to mental health - is crazy to see how little access they have and how often insurence will make everything they can't to deny cover it. One day I had suicidal thoughts, asked for help and a week later was on psicoeducation, monthly psiquiatrist and weekly group therapy... without paying a dime.

[@kemiebear]

I loved that you referenced Molly's character from "Insecure".

[@manestreambeauty]

Fun fact: Friends(1994) is based on and heavily borrows from *Living Single* (1993).

[@lazyreaderdotca]

Friends is entirely a rip off from Living Single. The actors of Living Single voiced this along with the creator and if you watch Living Single and you also watch Friends, you'll see that most of the episodes in Friends are often a play by play of Living Single except whitewashed since it's a white cast. It's sad because if you try to find a good link online now to watch Living Single, you have to search so hard but Friends has become well known and awarded and is still easy to binge. Just another case of racism.

[@docmarmalade5224]

Thanks for sharing this. I vaguely remember Living Single, but hadn't known that Friends stole Living Single's concept.

[@Machenziethemodel]

Lazy Reader living single is on Hulu

[@sabrinafrni64]

People really can't help but bring on Friends everytime they mention Living Single? Honestly it's lame. Friends was already in production, Friends had a classic and almost non-existent premise. Friends took off because audiences did so and America loved it. Friends went on to be ripped off by a lot of sitcoms after it ended. It's just how TV works, the premise is hardly the most original thing ever so it's insane to think a group of friends concept is supposed to be trademarked or something.

[@alext3480]

@@sabrinafrni64 they liked it because of all white people

[@ElizaCocoful]

Something I think needs to be added to this conversation is the value of family! Capitalism has told us that you're only valuable if you're monetarily valued, but actually I think we need to fight that too. I'm a woman who one day would LOVE to stay home and be a Mum... I don't think that is less valuable than being a #girlboss.

[@SL-lz9jr]

SAME. It took losing my job and taking myself out of the "rat race" for a whole year to figure out my true priorities to realize all of this. I mean... I knew these things already conceptually, but it took being unemployed (not by MY choice) to finally drive home the message. I'm hoping to start my own business, do that for a few years, prove to myself that I can start something on my own and be semi-successful at it (success as defined by MY metrics) and then figure out a way to be a stay at home mom (I'm currently nannying to pay the bills until my business is up and running, but the mom I work for is also a stay at home mom who's using the time I"m there with her kids to start her own businesses). How cool is that? No reason why we can't be worthy and valuable in all phases of our lives.

[@dim9753]

Mothers and teachers are ESSENTIAL for us as a species. The fact that teachers are so underpaid and motherhood isn't seen as a job at all is what needs to be fixed. The solution to this macho culture is education! Teach boys the value of women and to appreciate the importance of a balance between rationality and sentimentality in both men and women.

[@hibak8196]

Amen.

[@xBloodGarnetx]

Maybe not, but if you live in a capitalist society it is a precarious position to be in, one that society seems to be fine with women being in. Don't work, don't save, just trust that he won't leave you high and dry. The fastest growing demographic of the Australian homeless population are older women, many of whom had broken or limited work history and who never got to build financial independence.

[@GlamGoddes101]

Yes! feminism means supporting ANY decision that women want to choose for themselves - whether that’s to be a stay at home, to go far in their career, or both, or entrepreneurship. I don’t understand why some people think that women choosing to be stay at home moms is a bad thing, like that woman is choosing to do what she WANTS to do and I’ll support anyone who does what they know is best for themselves!

[@halfbloodprincess989]

In Germany, a high ranking politician recently appionted only men into his new department. When questionned about this, he said "I picked the most compenent candidates" and many people actually believed him. This sententiment of women=incompetent is such a cancer for society.

[@kmbehrens14]

The real question is, where can I watch Living Single?? Cuz that is the kind of media I am HERE FOR. Also, Lindsey Ellis is fantastic. A+ collab!

[@smoovybaby]

Katie Behrens All episodes are in Hulu

[@drasco61084]

Omg I wanna watch it

[@Sunshine4]

Katie Behrens it’s a great show!!! Enjoy!

[@yaya14every81]

A lot of today’s ‘girl bosses’ aren’t winning in life, they’re just surviving. Or these girl bosses have husbands who make the real money and they are just doing little projects and posting them on Insta! Or they say they are entrepreneurs but that’s code word for unemployment. ‘Side hustles’ is today’s way of saying a second job. So many people on social media lack credibility with the advice they provide.

[@ShelbySteele23]

Exactly! Ive been thinking about this because I want to quit my job and start my own business but Im afraid of giving up a stable income for a constant hustle or multiple side gigs.

[@honeydew5963]

Shelby Steele get your business going BEFORE you quit

[@AMarie2326]

Thank you

[@Emma-zq3ep]

This is great, TFD has such intellectual, meaningful content. But so contemporary and relevant to today's 20-40ish bracket.

[@mufasa0505]

Ironically, I think the best depiction of a woman who “has it all” is Clair Huxtable in the Cosby Show. A successful career as a lawyer, 5 happy, healthy children, and a loving marriage.

[@jessikat56]

It’s troublesome that this is what’s considered “having it all”. *All* is different for everyone. Kids, no kids, career, no career, married, not married, etc etc.

[@HosCreates]

we see her at a time in her life as a mom with teenagers though. Without her husbands income also she probably wouldn't have good access to childcare that made her career possible to become as successful as she did .

[@MinervAthena123]

lindsay on TFD for an entire month is like a dream I never knew I had come true!!

[@dorcaswg5726]

The #girlboss narrative is very limiting and reductive to the complexities of what women who want to pursue their dreams as well as want families go through.

[@aele0317]

Part of having more women in boss level is with having paid maternity leave... many women having to have to choose between having children or career. Don’t tell me women are not bing punish by having to take off few weeks or even months to have children

[@suruthe7804]

im so happy with this socially aware turn the channel is taking!

[@bloojkl4520]

I feel immense pressure by the #girlboss movement to be extremely successful, independent, smart, interesting and of course beautiful. Obviously I think it’s great that we’re doing progress, but what if I can’t or don’t want to be all those things at the same time? I’m a human, not a robot.

[@violetreichert6470]

Fell for the girl boss meme for a while, was super depressed and unhappy. Now married and planning on my first child this year, and I’ll be a stay at home mom for my fantastic husband ❤️ couldn’t be happier. Don’t let media steer your interests

[@TheSwatKat]

Violet Reichert no offence but you being depressed and unhappy is nothing to do with the job. And being a stay at home is not a formula to happiness.

[@violetreichert6470]

Swathi Rao thats not the point at all lol. I’m saying that media pretty much never portrays being a stay at home mom in a good light and not to try and be a certain way just because you saw it in a movie,

[@lilydinh6059]

Congrats on marriage and child. I'm a stay at home too, you should enjoy your free time there are people out there that will say negative things out of jealousy things like you need to fill your free time with a hobby or side business.. I've seen stay a home moms fall for the pyramid scheme all thanks to their peers jealous words. Ignore people.

[@reikun86]

That’s great. I’m happy for you. :)

[@TheWannabeTexan]

I loved loved loved this video! I got married pretty young at 22 and my husband and I have always been equals in every sense of the word, jobs, chores, (cooking not so much because he doesn't like it but he does the dishes), and just in general the way we treat each other with respect. At one point, I made more money than he did and I know some men are very intimidated by that but he was very proud of me and we just continued to move forward. I think that if a woman wants to start a relationship it is important for her to find someone that will truly respect her and if the relationship feels unequal in any way, you both should talk about it. We can have it all: money, relationship, career and kids. You just have to find the right person to have that with ❤

[@HosCreates]

sadly most women dont have men like yours . you are blessed

[@abeauti14]

I love this episode!! Thank you for showing diversity with the different shows you talked about!!!! Makes me feel included!!

[@taylormartinez2952]

Two of my fav KZbinrs 😍😍 Also the immediate GoT reference was great thank you!

[@sudevsen]

How could you forget Princess Carolyn, whose entire arc is about the balance of work and motherhood?

[@JB-bq2qj]

Sudev Sen sorry, Bojack Horseman is the most under appreciated show of the decade.

[@tyblazitar]

I mostly agree with your points, but I feel like rather than having more likable female CEOs in media we should stop having any likable CEOs period.

[@Redrally]

What's the point of that? CEOs are still human and some are even - gasp! - likeable. I would much rather see a large range of characters.

[@pixiebomb28]

Living single and Girlfriends truly inspired me growing up. Loved seeing all those women enjoying freedom and independence

[@SamarkandChan]

I love Lindsay so much! Looking forward to this colab!

[@SamanthaRichardsonWP]

I watched this yesterday and was kinda whatever about it, mostly because I already knew most of this and I didn't really know any of the people/shows referenced. Then an ad for the Vogue editor's masterclass came up on the next video I watched and she seems so collaborative and nothing like the depiction in Devil Wears Prada. And I was like... OOOH that's the point. Thanks for making this! Clearly even those of us who 'get it' need to hear this sometimes 😂

[@KrispyKrunchee]

I WANT a family. I’m getting it. I want kids, a husband; I am ready to submit and be submitted to. I spent years being too afraid to go for it because I was convinced I would be a loser if I didn’t subscribe to a noticeable degree to the “hustler”/“gurlboss” lifestyle. I’m done. I can work AND have a family. I fell for it; I spent years hiding from my true dreams. I was deceived. I couldn’t figure out why I was sooo unhappy. I’m so glad I got over my socially induced psychosis!

[@bee_bee75240]

I know there are a million comments about this but THANK YOU for the diversity of this topic by simply including characters that don’t all look the same. Especially since I can tell it was thoughtfully done and not just thrown in for cool points. Anyone who can make a Living Single reference is alright with me 😊

[@evildoesnotsleep-x2b]

open question: which series/movies portray a woman boss in a healthy way?

[@paaaz91]

Jacqueline Carlyle from the Bold Type

[@elizabethkeller9261]

Working Girl with Sigourney Weaver and Melanie Griffith and 9 to 5 with Lily Tomlin, Jane Fonda and Dolly Parton are two of my personal favorite examples. They're both movies from the 1980s, but feel very ahead of their time in terms of how they approach girlbossing. Working Girl really dives into how business is very patriarchy oriented, and sexism dominates the industry. Tess (Melanie Griffith) initially looks up to Katharine (Signourney Weaver), who's like the textbook girlboss, but ultimately realizes that Katharine's approach to it is just as toxic as those of her male counterparts. Tess maintains both her ambitions and her ethics in the end and is rewarded for it (not to spoil the movie too much). 9 to 5 is a bit more power fantasy, since it focuses on three women who get to stick it to their terrible lecherous boss in a hilariously extreme way, but a huge theme of the film is the women learning that in order to overcome this unfair system, they have to work together, not pit themselves against each other, and a lot of why they become successful bossbabes is because they make the workplace a positive environment for the other women they work with, creating a system that makes it easier for them to "have it all" so to speak.

[@elizabethkeller9261]

Oh, another good example is Carolyn Knapp Schappey, from the BBC Radio Series Cabin Pressure, which is just a cracking series all around

[@HosCreates]

@@elizabethkeller9261 the 9-5 movie was excelent!

[@NikBrown4]

I love that you mentioned characters from Insecure and Living Single!

[@brandijones461]

Awesome collab and a living single reference? My 2020 isn't starting off too bad

[@usehername1]

Yes! Ignoring the fact that "working hard" is all you need and that there are no societal obstacles.

[@lydiab.717]

Cheers for the Living Single mention!😎🤩

[@MorganThomasatgoogle]

I knew I loved Living Single for a reason. I have such a new perspective on the show after watching this. Thank you!

[@aa5272]

i like how she gave the idea that we should towards a future where we can get to the top by building each other up rather than bringing other people down.

[@NinaUnlocked]

This was good! I like how diverse it was, too!

[@berrystically]

omg lindsay and the financial diet combined? now i can double the feeling of being super dumb but motivated to learn

[@zitronentee]

There's something I have to speak about from my childhood experience : yes, the husband is the breadwinner. It's ideal to work 9-to-5, monday to friday, to build business, but it's not the reality. The reality is that my father work 11-12 hours a day, monday-saturday, 2-3 times/month business travelling. So, I can say that he's pretty much absent during my childhood. When he was older and really settle down, I'm already attending college, so I really never know him much.

[@Patternlogic]

👏👏👏 such a good vid. I’m tired of people (esp fellow women) label men in power as ambitious, charismatic, career driven but female of power as a b***. We need more women uplifting over women. Men didn’t get into position of power by themselves, they did it by uplifting other men.

[@TB-rx1ue]

The opportunity gap definitely exists... Insecure seems interesting! I’ll have to watch that. When we pursue career success, it’s harder to do so than it is for men. Basically when you strive to have it all, ur often left with nothing. In business, career success is relational and as an attractive young female, you’re less likely to be seen as capable and more likely to be seen as a liability in taking time off to have children or someone they can’t be as comfortable around. For the past decade, I’ve been laser focused on developing my technical and soft skills, and I can’t say that has gotten me far. Pulling all nighters to get something done isn’t something I’ve ever seen my male peers have to do. And in return, I usually get more “busy work”, dull projects, someone else’s job in addition to mine who is entry level, etc. I can’t wait for the day that women aren’t pigeonholed or discriminated in the workforce for their sex. In my career in corporate finance, you’ll find many women as analysts and accountants but few as managers and I’ve yet to meet more than 1 female CFO. And that’s definitely not because women aren’t as good. We aren’t even given opportunities for advancement.

[@urujsheikh9279]

Cannot like this enough. I love the ending where you discuss human behavior in capitalism aka dehumanizing others by “stepping on” them to get ahead in your individual career and also love that you talk about how individualistic girlboss culture is.

[@iamjaquanna]

This was so great... like an essay, except with pics and stuff! Very informative. I learned a lot, and it gave me quite a bit to think about! Thank you for this! Brava! Keep em coming!

[@morganmcgregor8647]

I absolutely love this with my whole heart

[@alarcon99]

Living Single has a spin-off called "Half and Half"!? WHY AM I JUST LEARNING ABOUT THIS! I NEED TO SPEAK TO THE MANAGER!

[@marij5589]

"Ok Karen, calm down. He's on his way...even though he's going to tell you the same thing 😒" Lol

[@alarcon99]

@@marij5589 Brilliant!

[@dantoinettem6825]

Half and Half was a spin off of Living Single 🤔 Appreciate the representation. Thank you.

[@KhiaraZhane]

That blew my mind! Lol

[@thotcrimez4252]

She’s white 😭 she at least tried

[@mattpaxton3528]

@@thotcrimez4252 You might want to check who wrote this episode.

[@lisah8438]

@@thotcrimez4252 What does her being white have to do with anything. Half and Half was spin off of Living Single. Or at least in the same universe.

[@rolita12]

I am an actual “girlboss” and moved up the ladder but for some reason have always disliked all the “girlboss” “bossbabe” merchandise. It made me cringe but I couldn’t pinpoint the feeling, just made me feel like we need to normalize women being bosses. This is a real throughout rationalization of all the merch available.

[@elenapopovic6261]

I feel you. My sister bought me some weird "#girlboss" fridge magnets when I got my last promotion and I've never felt more ooky about a gift in my life

[@TilaShe]

I'm so glad we get to hear from Lindsay and this video was a fantastic start (and twist!) for the host change in TFD. The topic was amazing and so well addressed. More please! :D

[@elysianemily]

Lindsay Ellis is one of my favorite KZbinrs! I'm happy that you brought her on

[@halleyangel1706]

The thing about having it all. Is it's hard to keep it all. My mom worked 3 different careers as my father worked construction and steel work. As she worked as a nurse and security guard while being a mom. The truth was as my parents aged they worked hard to make sure to be there with with family as much as their work. Now that their older they worry they didn't do as much with us. And now that my mom has stopped working she revels in having free time

[@jeremycohn691]

Where are these under-performing male paternal figures? We gotta hunt them down and have a vigorous discussion about how they can contribute their full potential to their familial relationships.

[@middletech]

If women allowed men to be househusbands without cheating on them and if they allowed men to work with children this wouldn’t be a problem. Another thing that is open to debate is that women want to spend more time with her children.

[@epicherbalism]

Thank you! I feel like our modern "you can have it all, women" thing really just looks like working constantly, for both no pay (maternity leave, caring for others) and less pay (normal job) while being judged as not good enough for either (because it's working two full time jobs that can't really get all the attention each, and we love judging women for everything)... It looks like a trap unfortunately that only the wealthy can escape. Or if you're in a country that values families and health (paid parental leave, affordable/free childcare and healthcare).

[@lshardy1up]

This was awesome! One great example of embracing the new feminist boss in media is the show, "The Bold Type." They always talk about these dynamics and I love how the characters explore the issues without claiming to know all the answers.

[@gentlerat]

Great to find this. Been binging Lindsay Ellis's videos lately, and she keeps referring back, in recent videos, to this idea of the "girlboss" but here I can actually see her address the topic head on.

[@confidenceseeker3479]

Shout out to talking about minorities and health.

[@andspenrob]

I love this series, am thrilled to have Lindsay guest hosting, and want to reach as wide an audience as possible, so in that spirit, here's a candid anecdote: Even though I knew Lindsay was going to be hosting in the future, I didn't know this was one of her episodes, and the thumbnail didn't sell me enough to click. I only came back once Lindsay's Patreon sent an e-mail letting me know what this series was. Maybe consider changing up the thumbnail, putting her name and/or picture on the thumb, and maybe something in the title about what series this is? The retro aesthetic of the title really didn't draw me in, and usually the TFD style is pretty effective at drawing my attention - could just be me, of course! Keep up the great work, all of you at TFD and Lindsay Ellis Co.!

[@KittySnicker]

Really sick of hustle culture. I feel like a failure all the time no matter what I accomplish. Yes it’s problematic that there are sexist aspects of wanting women to largely be mothers, but some of us Millenial women are starting to resent the pressure to BE a girl boss! Yes I enjoy my victories but I hate that it’s a constant uphill struggle to attain some nonexistent ideal. I find myself unsexed and enjoying power more than sex, and feeling disdain for everything maternal! I wish you’d covered this problem, Lindsay. Well done video overall.

[@zz55jf]

Peggy was encouraging and helpful to any woman who showed interest in moving up. There just werent many who were.

[@laurencrawford100]

Really great tv show comparisons to bring unhinge your point. Very relatable. Love these episodes, hope they continue past January.

[@sarapocorn]

I have taken a hiatus from this channel and youtube for a bit, but damn you guys are delivering! Glad to be back ♥️ Lindsay is my girl.

[@ipsilonia]

i LOVE this perspective of analyzing how art informs social perspectives!

[@stenarospcc]

Welcome! I'm glad to see you here in a shorter format. Your videos on your channel look interesting, but I've never watched one because I don't have 30 minutes. I look forward to the next few weeks.

[@katherinepagan4860]

I like that she brought up that it's not always helpful to frame the "girlboss" narrative as women should be just like their male counterparts. While I'm all for assertive, take-no-prisoner, badass ladies, so much of American (traditionally masculine) workplace culture isn't empowered, it's just straight-up toxic and abusive. I want to see women succeed, but I hate seeing people promote the idea that being cut-throat, exploitative, and selfish are good "boss" practices. You're not a #girlboss if you support unfair labor practices, throw fellow employees under the bus, or insist people sacrifice their well-being like you did to get ahead - you're just another powerful asshole.

[@rebekahbradleyray8932]

What is this? A CROSSOVER EPISODE?!?!?! I freaking LOVE this!! You're awesome everywhere, Lindsay!

[@ApeWithPants]

I'd love to see those management and job progression stats broken out into age groups and the age groups of those in charge. I'd love to know if this trend weakening with more progressive generations that might veiw women differently than those that were in charge of our business institutions when boomers where on the rise.

[@raquelr.700]

A very sober analysis that addresses the issue that many people have been ignoring. Big thanks for this video!

[@myragroenewegen5426]

Not every one can be, or needs to be in a high-status leadership position to be a strong and worthwhile woman and family and outside-work life should be able to work for women, since it clearly works for many men. But with everyone having so much difficulty moving up in the workforce choices about jobs both are and feel very stark and terribly unjust sacrifices feel necessary for women and everyone else. Even well before my own generation, I see just so many women who are CLEARLY wired for management and really driven who never get there. I have no trouble seeing the wage gap and the glass ceilings and sticky floors. Meanwhile, this whole evil female boss fear is this deeply chilling doom mindset, no mater how we rig our work/home balance. The struggle to feel boss-level control cuts accross all sexes and stripes and creeds, since work is so precarious in general and is a trap for women in particular (and in particular anyone dealing with compound oppression from other stigmatized identities). The metaphor that seems most impactful here is the one of reality TV, where competition is cutthroat and people struggle simply to remain in the game. Is there anyone in today's entertainment fiction making it work to have even a little of everything, nevermind having it all? The possibility seems restricted to TV shows no newer than the 80s. By all means mention any current TV girl workers who overwhelmingly make it work like that, but I really don't see it. It's become hard to immagine. And that scares the shit out of me.

[@cherrydayz]

The issue with it is when "girlboss" is synonymous with feminism. It's not feminist to subvert other women for your benefit

[@patterbay]

Lindsay Ellis?!?!?!

[@chasingthefame]

I wish there was closed captioning for these vids. Still a very informative video, thank you

[@asukayin6487]

Man I swear this video hit it right on the head. I always thought there was something odd with this type of person that people try to emulate.

[@saltycrunch]

I just discovered and subscribed to Lindsay a couple of weeks ago. I'm delighted to see her on FD this month.

[@MariannesStudio]

This was great! I'm happy to see this girlboss issue addressed. It's not the kind of career success I want for myself, even though I have ambition. Let's build a better, cooler blueprint for ourselves!

[@way2flybaby]

Love this! What a great point of view and thought provoking. With my new KZbin channel, I hope as I build my brand, I can speak to all people and not be place automatically into a stereotype or box. Hopefully, with support, I will be able to grow and be refer to as a boss!🤗🤗🤗

[@thotcrimez4252]

You WILL BE! ✨

[@way2flybaby]

@@thotcrimez4252 thank you so much!!! Your comment literally just put a smile on my face, stay sweet!

[@nathalie3654]

I have been listening to Lindsay for a while now. I actually discovered her on The Financial Diet. Happy to see you on this channel Lindsay! Looking forward to seeing more.

[@79thakidd]

yes, yes to the Living Single reference 👌🏾

[@somethingclever8916]

Men who work in higher position (many just inherit and its more genetic lottery and grooming) sacrifice everything to get there -social life, family, friends, health, and free time to get there. Women that work over 50 hours a week is under 15% To get to the top is giving up alot of emotional needs. For the people that want the brass ring there is no Netflix and chill, Sunday brunches, or sabbaticals. Its hard work with sacrifice

[@INTERESTEDINFORMEDINSPIRED]

This is very well researched!!

[@mhawang8204]

That's Lindsay Ellis for you. She has a course on Skillshare about researching for videos.

[@littleraspberry5771]

I absolutely agree on everthing said here, but please let us not forget, that "having it all" is by far not everyone's goal. I've been laletly feeling some shame toward woman who don't pursue the girl boss lifestyle. From early age I've been expected to aspire working in science or law, make that money and live the career life. Does my wish to live a stereotypically "female" role make me a bad women or an anti-feminist? I don't think so. I am a white, cis womam in my 20ties and I do want to work in a social field even if it won't made me rich and have children, may not work for some years to spend time with my kids and then hopefully go back working at least half-time and live a quiet life (with a loving husband, hopefully). I'm not a conservative, religious person, that's just me and I do believe that there are quite some women out there feeling similarly

[@annaswanson5903]

Amen to the medical bills

[@GG1Productions]

The fact that this video brought up both Living Single AND Half&Half is nothing short of incredible

[@billyboy9675]

The biggest issue with female bosses is that they don’t realize they have been pushed into management whether or not they are qualified. In the span of 10 years female managers at a company I’m familiar with went up 5 fold. All of them had the ‘credentials’ - college, years on the job, etc. but not had the personality it takes. To compensate, they acted like ‘B’s’. I think for the good of both bosses and employees, it would be better to acknowledge that this may be a several generation’s correction.

[@BetterWithBob]

Funnily enough, Anne Hathaway later starred in a film with the exact opposite message of The Devil Wears Prada - The Intern. She plays the head of a fashion company who's considering hiring a CEO to give herself less work - because her husband is the stay at home dad who's having an affair. But the end message is that the husband needs to work on his insecurities, which he does by ending the affair, confessing everything and assuring her to stay in control of her company. And she's portrayed as a nice boss as well, although her assistant is a bit overworked. And there's a positive example from friggin 1942 in Now Voyager. An heiress chooses not to get married or pursue the man she loves because she wants to use her family's money to help the mental health system, based off her own experiences getting over a nervous breakdown.

[@Shelleebeee]

sad we’re getting less Chelsea, but love Lindsay’s new show!

[@katieolejnik8376]

such a great collab idea!!!

[@AnnTheAnonymous]

Love Lindsay Ellis, but also love Princess Weekes and her Mary Sue articles, awesome to see these two working together!

[@vanessas8325]

I just loved it! I'm sharing it with all my friends! This month if off to an amazing start! Welcome Lindsay and thanks!

[@emilymeza9241]

I want to be successful but I also want a normal life to be a mom someday, n I genuinely feel like I could be able to do both. Hope anyone wanting this too gets to as well some day💖

[@serach144]

This collaboration is a gift that keeps giving.

[@KazumiShiunsai]

I just had to write down your tv references! Totally checking them out!

[@Vanyel_K]

What an awesome change of host! I've watched your material for years and still glad to see new stuff

[@missmelodies52]

I think the fallacy in this video is super common. We hear over and over again that we can do career or family. But as someone who wants to delay family until later in life and also doesn't give a fuck about contributing to capitalism as a source of meaning, I felt excluded. Ladies, it's okay to love neither - there are so many other things to love in life! For me I've found so much fulfilment in starting my own vintage reselling business (hardly a career, more of a hobby), making art, and spending time with people I love. Your most fulfilled life might not look like that, but there are many boxes to check outside of kids or work. (Obviously I get that those things demand our time, just saying we don't have to make them our main focus of value)

[@danabryant92]

I've only started been talked to for a future management position at my current job. My current job is currently staffed by women. Every other job has over looked me because they say things like "well yes your qualified but dont you want to focus on finding a husband? " yes this is something that was said to me not by my manager but by A supervisor of another area when I complained I couldn't get ahead