The Dangerous World of Internet Cults (ft.

[@morbidforfun]

Dude this video is insane! Thanks for having me

[@VirtualCarbon]

Thank you for being in it!

[@penguin095]

The goat himself

[@storythesilly]

Why hello, amazing yter

[@Enderwave22]

You deserve to be on more videos

[@sofia_g23]

Great compilation of online cults! 2 i didnt know about

[@shadw4701]

I'm a lucid dreamer and can confirm shifting isn't real. Shifting techniques are all just lucid dreaming techniques renamed. Scripting is simply something oneironauts (dream explorers) use for dream incubation (choosing what to dream about before going to sleep). Reality shifting in itself is just that, dream incubation. It's simply a vivid dream as the result of dream incubation. All the symptoms are just what happens when you fall asleep. Plus the shifting community has no idea of how dreams work and the shifting community is a huge source of misinformation about dreams. If you want to shift realities simply get into lucid dreaming and/or dream incubation. It's the same experience and it often feels like real life plus it's actually backed by science

[@mrsa9130]

" backed by Science". Science constantly changes...lol real Science anyways.

[@Ash-tu1oc]

Thank you! It’s so frustrating seeing this pseudoscience cult pop up on TikTok and sucker in kids and teens over just basic dream science lol. I’ve been doing since I was like 6 yrs old, always found it fun to prime my brain for fun little adventures before bed and always woke up happy afterwards. It shocks me to realize so many people don’t understand what this is, or more likely, just refuse to look it up and ruin their fantasy of escapism 😅. It can be fun to prime dream settings for your brain, even if it’s not foolproof, but some kids and adults seem scarily invested in it and it’s concerning how anti-science it all is.

[@IBM-5100]

​@@mrsa9130 If you think science is wrong, go ahead and prove it.

[@DevTook]

Halfway through listening to this I wondered if it wasn't just very vivid lucid dreaming indeed. I appreciate your additional info about that :)

[@Coolhandkelpy]

Yes! I remember when shifting got big and I was like ".... so this is lucid dreaming but a little different" lol. I tried the shifting techniques but it never worked, though I have successfully lucid dreamed in the past.

[@MaverickFiles]

this is immensely well-edited. incredible work, dude.

[@VirtualCarbon]

Thank you man! I love ur videos btw!

[@Zeeboklown]

Wow. Big compliment. I love the maverick files

[@malade3000]

Damn crossover in the comments

[@c7hu1hu]

Oh ho hoo, here for this encounter.

[@TrinityCodex]

back in my day we just called it daydreaming

[@kroozr1234]

💀💀💀💀

[@aarongerig9223]

Back in your day, you had characters like Joe Camel telling kids to smoke. And had candy cigarettes and candy chewing tobacco. I wish Freddy Kruger took you.

[@rebeccamary6336]

It's not 'shifting', it's dissociation. Taking your mind somewhere more desirable than the sufferers reality. People that go through horrific trauma can use this trick to help them take their minds elsewhere. Like a really deep daydream. Hope I'm explaining it correctly.

[@thebuilder5271]

I thought “shifting” was lucid dreaming?

[@StygianTheCandleMan]

you right, it's just using your imagination

[@rokukou]

Yup, anyone who is over the age of 8 and believes they are truly changing realities needs to get their head checked. I do believe in alternate universes, and possibly multiverse theory, but dreaming is not changing universes lmao.

[@doesthisIookinfected]

I didn't know "shifting" was a thing. Sometimes I would wake up in the middle of the night and have trouble going back to sleep so I just create storylines until I go back to sleep. For me, I don't do it as a trauma response. I actually enjoy the "real world" lmao. The people who do it to escape reality need help tho. I don't believe in dimension jumping but if the concept exists, you definitely wouldn't be able to do it just by "meditating".

[@Cooe.]

Dissociation isn't healthy. If you have to dissociate to cope one's life has MUCH deeper problems. 🤷

[@DylanPackard]

One of the big dangers that I've always been concerned with is spiritual movements co-opting scientific terms to validate a lot of points with very little in the way of any evidence to back up claims. I'd done a degree in physics a little while ago and my main focus towards the end was quantum mechanics and particle physics, and the sheer amount of misinformation about all of physics in the general public is super concerning. People take conjecture or thought experiments as actual valid scientific theories instead of thinking of them as a stepping stone to an actual concrete theory or an aid to understand a complex topic (like a potential multiverse or the brain thought experiments). Having done quantum, a lot of my work involved frequencies and waves and delivery of energy and I just can't understand how that alone isn't amazing. We don't need to tack more onto it, the science alone is so intriguing and fascinating. Though don't look at the math, people try to doll up quantum mech as something sexy; it's fuckin linear algebra and stats in a trench coat with a dash of imaginary numbers lol I think some people would also be shocked how incredibly malleable and gullible the human mind is. I'm very aware several memories of mine are completely and verifiably false and that's totally normal and okay. It's easy to convince the brain it's feeling or seeing something through concentrated effort, but ascribing all of that to some pseudoscience very loosely based on science is always a bit scary heh

[@maebla]

Most of your comment was hidden and I was going to speak anecdotally about a movement decades ago in Glastonbury that pretty much centred around what you're talking about, with a whole new-world spiritual uproar surrounding ideas put forth in "What the bleep do we know!?!", a movie that blended quantum physics with new-age spiritual science. Call it a coincidence (I do), but just a day or 2 ago I spotted one of those professors from the film talking here on youtube about 'connecting to the source'. He no doubt would not call it a coincidence, but assert that I brought these events into being. As my careers focus is more psychiatry based, I can certainly see the psychological drawbacks of magical thinking. But it does not surprise me that today it's amplified by social media, considering the context of modern day life for our youths, backdropped by a world that appears to be falling apart.

[@maebla]

@@thricegreat7175 Honestly, I don't know either way. I've seen some crazy shit and met some incredibly interesting and spiritual people on my travels, and no doubt there are still many more adventures to come and new insights and experiences that await. Ask me again in 10 years time :)

[@feliciaswift5717]

I’ve always been fascinated by physics, not because of like parallel universes but I find things like relation to time and distance, how massive the universe is and how things work in it! I can never read enough on the topic. However, I cannot math. Like to literally save myself. It’s depressing. Anytime I get so far into it I’m lost when it comes to the math involved. I wish I had the opportunity to think about these things when I was in school. I’d love to learn more, especially math without having to pay astronomically.

[@EmbraceTheStruggle24]

​@@feliciaswift5717it's definitely fascinating for sure lol

[@EmbraceTheStruggle24]

​@@feliciaswift5717 as for math, I can handle it in small doses .

[@InternetAnarchist]

You are incredible, remember me when you have 10 million subscribers.

[@VirtualCarbon]

lol, you too!!

[@112523]

That first one sounds like TikTok found out what lucid dreaming is. It also reminds me of one Junji Ito manga. About a guy that has dreams that feels longer and longer. Untill they feel like a lifetime. Where he feels like he actually lives out a life. Only for him to wake up in a hospital. Realising that the people he thought were his wife and children aren't real. One of my favourite mangas tbh

[@earth_bound_misfit]

Reminds me of that Reddit post where the guy got hit by a car and lived a whole other life only to wake up laying on the street

[@chasconocaso1496]

Those were a lot of mental gymnastics from Andre McNair. And that "mental manipulation from HER" it's pretty farfetched. She was 14 years old, brother.

[@ramseydoon8277]

That's an oft-repeated, horrendous thing to say.

[@Karamelsnougat]

Yeah sounds like something a predator would say.

[@colinjohnson4903]

This guy is lieing I’m with you.

[@colinjohnson4903]

He dead ass got a place to take her

[@InfiniteGatsu]

The way he talks is how every other pred talks

[@herosdoexist13]

I love it! Thank you for having me. Really think you captured both povs even if mine wasn't the extreme end of the "shifting is totally real" idea. I don't think my words were misconstrued at all If anyone is worried or concerned about that! Shifting real or not can be dangerous, just like any spiritual practice.

[@VirtualCarbon]

Thank you for allowing me to interview you!

[@DarthTalon66]

Fake but lucid dreaming is probably what you’re experiencing

[@JustJDx]

​@@DarthTalon66I don't understand why you make it sound it so dismissive when hero herself already mentioned lucid dreaming in the video, as well as shifting simply being a relative "new term".

[@Zeeboklown]

One point tho. As u said, perception is our reality, which I agree and have said many, many times, but also, perception is OUR reality, that doesn't mean it is BASELINE reality. In example, a catatonic patient could be said to be "shifted" to his own "reality" based on whatever his fried neurons are perceiving. That doesn't make it ACTUALLY reality. A schizo patient truly believes people can hear their thoughts (not all patients, just an example), and that is the reality they have to live in, but it still, isn't actually REALity. 😉

[@BrennaDraws]

As someone who lucid dreams and has psychosis I can't understand why anyone would want this. I've had dreams so real that I've felt pain, tasted things. And let me tell you when you can't die in a dream pain is awful. As for psychosis, yeah I don't think anyone that actually experiences it really wants it. Nothing like spendig months trying to rebuild your grip on reality after four hours of believing you're responsible for someone killing 13 kids. Or having a psychotic episode and coming out of it with dirt under yoru finger nails and you can't remember what happened, where you went or what you did. Like don't get me wrong I've had some amazing dreams and episodes, but they do not out weighing 'living' through life times of torture, or watching my loved ones dieing in horrific ways. It's liteally the only thing among my many disabilities I would happily cure if I got a chance.

[@pinewolfpresents]

I remember there was a full 2 years of just...sensing *everything* in dreams. And unfortunately I'd also die at the end of mostly all of the dreams, so I'd uh...that violent sensation would be aggressive, too Lots of jumping out of sleep, heavy-breathing covered in sweat a few seconds after feeling your soul leave your own body and being unable to move at all? While still being completely conscious and alert? And you KNOW when you go to back sleep, it's gonna happen in a different way at a random time and you can't prepare for it? Nah ✋🏾 glad that arc is over And that's not even talking about the baggage from experiencing it in the first place Guess this is how I find out I have psychosis, maybe 😂

[@BookofValis]

Good shit 🫡 editing is insane !

[@TeasIdeas]

honestly thank you for talking about shifting, I am a kid in a not very good home situation and some mental problems I'm going to be honest I know some people reading this might be like "how would you believe that, that's so stupid" but when you are currently going through something terrible, the thought of escaping in some way is just so desireable it's like a "Yes! I can finally escape!!". Shifting was an unhealthy escapism for me that I am not proud of, it most definitely did not help my mental health and most definitely has left effects on me so many people told me "shifting iss real!" "you will shift" "you can shift to whatever reality you want" and thinking back on it now... it was so harmful to me. I hope to get proper help when I can acess it

[@hillaryclinton1232]

The Fear Mingering about 'Cults" is a CIA agiprop. America wants submissice people who follow the Corporate Laws. Cults are created by CIA Agiprop to Scare Normies and their children. "CULTS" are threat to Money and Banks and Capitalism. (Manson was not a Cult. He was Created by CIA. Read that book or and it was Same Guy that Got LSD in Fan FRancisco and Hotsa everone high on LSD the CIA was the Sourse of the LSD. I think this presentation is FEARMONGERISM & KLICK BAIT. Also 80& was LIES and STUPID SHIT SLINGING. I exist MY OPIOM i am 74 Years Old, These Goy here am talkin to Childrens. I hoehwer at 74 Years old KNOE BETTER --These Goy male these movie YOUNG KNOWS NOTHING, writes this tripe sewer style--he no know shit. 40 Years Freicht Train of America Hobo Riding Freight Trains. Grad: Baylor University Music 1970 Professional Tattoo Artist in Chicago, Milwaukee & Lake Jeneva, WI,

[@jason7120]

I was in Law Enforcement and worked Cybercrime for 5 years and Discord is filled with a lot of different cult and cult like cords. I was able to get into a good few, most are harmless, the most common are groomer sights that are sub groups that hide within legitimate fandom groups. Where older fans are preying on younger fans.

[@antonkovalenko364]

Good on you for going after PoS groomers. 🤘

[@hannahfanning9585]

Very true

[@Erebus.666.]

I'd think that anyone who was 'really' involved in cybercrime, would know how to spell 'site'.

[@GETMEASTRAITJACKET]

Can I see your badge and credentials? You're a liar aren't you?

[@clairelmao]

Shifting makes me laugh bc I have adhd and so “living another life/lucid dreaming” is just my normal bedtime routine. It has been since I was a little kid so it’s just wild to me that 1)most people don’t just..do that like all the time normally and 2)it’s part of some new age spirituality ooo woo stuff 😂😂 Not to discredit anyone’s experience or feelings but like it’s just a wild thought to me that that’s what they’re doing and saying.

[@lv281]

At first I thought this was maladaptive dreaming. But I think the 2 are different

[@clairelmao]

@@lv281 I mean it might be! I also have in the past had maladaptive daydreaming when I’m not on my adhd meds and since they’ve worn off by bedtime that could be an aspect of it 🤷‍♀️

[@mynameisworld]

Stop spreading misinformation. "I have adhd and so..." 🤦No. That's an individual thing. It is NOT a trait of ADHD. It is no more common in ADHD than in the non-ADHD population. Do you have brown hair? Gasp! Everyone with ADHD must also have brown hair because you do! And everyone who has brown hair must also have ADHD because you do! Stop trying to start ignorant stereotypes. Your misinformation harms real people when you spread incorrect ideas about them.

[@lv281]

@@mynameisworld 🤣🤣

[@clairelmao]

@@mynameisworld i said that it could be an aspect of it. I have severe adhd and maladaptive daydreaming is an aspect of SOME peoples adhd that is caused by the adhd. As I said above when I’m not on my adhd meds I have maladaptive daydreaming. Adhd is a spectrum and has many symptoms and often goes hand in hand with other disorders. I never said everyone with adhd had maladaptive daydreaming only that *I* have it when I don’t have my medication on board. I have lost ENTIRE days to maladaptive daydreaming that is caused by my adhd. Again, *not everyone with adhd has this* it’s a spectrum with many many different symptoms but this is my experience with it. It’s not misinformation it’s my own lived experience.

[@isaak_komnenos]

The devil will not arrive as a hideous monster, but as a visage of something holy and beautiful.

[@michaelkraus7372]

Empath Refuge, Simply Better TV it also has ties with tarot card channels connected with it.

[@armanijones]

Which is why I ask Christians how they know they're worshipping the correct God and not the devil in disguise.

[@podcelebclips]

stop talking about my ex bro

[@TheHardys01]

​@@armanijonesI don't know if you've seen the movie The Prince of Egypt, but I very much have that issue when it comes to the whole "Burning Bush' scene. Spoilers!(I guess): Moses just assumes that what is speaking to him is actually God. At no point does he stop to consider that maybe what is communicating with him is actually the devil or some form of dark entity, intent on the destruction of Egypt. (Not saying I have a strong belief in either possibilities. I just find it odd that he doesn't even question it.)

[@lucastark1784]

@@armanijones I'll list the main reasons why I believe Jesus is God. Not everyone thinks the way I do but I hope this helps. 1. Jesus fulfilled all of the messiah prophesies. 2. Jesus subverted the expectation of how the prophesies would be fulfilled. Many people thought that the messiah would come as a powerful warrior. Instead, Jesus rode into Jerusalem on a donkey. He performed miracles and shared His wisdom. They expected a messiah that would conquer the heathens with fire and sword. Instead, Jesus conquered the heathens with love and truth. 3. Jesus was crucified by his enemies. What kind of god but a loving god would become one of us and allow himself to die in one of the worst ways possible? 4. Jesus came back to life. Not to have revenge or destroy us all, but to defeat death and show that hope cannot truly die.

[@slyfox3853]

I genuinely keep forgetting this is a small channel, honestly a great amount of understanding and effort put into the editing, you'll pick up eventually, I'd bet on it.

[@anotherj4896]

This discord guy that kidnapped that child is a pervert LARPing as a mystic. He even blames the victim.

[@chasconocaso1496]

This

[@tylertriezenberg1399]

For real. She was 14 and he even used the classic "oh she was so advanced"

[@dingykix]

lol they willingly met up she probably didn't disclose her age, the guy is walking around free for a reason

[@amariiiii1461]

@@dingykix so he couldn’t tell apart a 14 year old vs an adult? Please she was a young teen there’s no way he didn’t know. He just didn’t care.

[@hunters6940]

@@dingykix did you watch the whole video? Go to 38:50. She disclosed her age.

[@kingkong381]

"Reality shifting is a spiritual practice in which a person purposely transmits themselves into another reality. Putting themself in a meditative state that resembles lucid dreaming, the person is then able to live out an entire other life and existence in another universe completely." That sure is a lot of words for daydreaming. These people are turning daydreaming, a perfectly normal and healthy thing everyone does (to varying degrees), into a "spiritual" practice and acting like it's some new thing and not something humans have been doing since we were first capable of abstract thought.

[@braidzslatt]

Sounds nothing like daydreaming. When are you daydreaming and writing a script??? Also yeah this shifting stuff isn't real

[@AkaiNabi]

​@@braidzslattyou'd be amazed how detailed daydreaming can be, lol. Specially if you actively put your mind into it.

[@thebiggusdonnus8453]

​@@braidzslattWow! People daydream differently than you do 😂

[@nickolasperazzo8254]

​@@AkaiNabinah fr, some of my daydreams are just like, imagining designs and ideas for projects and such, depending of what i get, i go ahead and write it down to use later

[@elphiegreen]

"Shifting" sounds like lucid dreaming with extra steps lol

[@sofia_g23]

Heaven's gate definitely a very fascinating cult. Their website is still up btw and their old classes and videos still on youtube. A member is maintaining the website and even responding to emails so they're still active.

[@Zeeboklown]

Ik, it's fugging crazy isn't it? It sure would suck to be them. Imagine being apart of this big cult, and being told u can't join the rest of them on "enlightenment" to have to stay here and run a website.. someone drew the shirt straw! Lmfao

[@ppbrain2328]

This was so well made, thank you for reaching out to people in these communities and talking honestly with them, not victimizing of villainizing them. Not alienating these people is really important, it provides respect and equal grounds for these people and can lead to recovery and self analyzation of their practices. You're doing good work!!! I think in terms of shifting, I'm worried about these kids, if they reach out to friends and family for help, it could be easy for others to not treat them seriously. At first glance it can seem absurd, and doing research on it can be difficult, especially if you aren't tech savvy. With covid isolation, so many of these kids needed escape, and communities were not able to adjust to help younger generations. I think you kind of missed the point the second person in your shifting interviews was trying to make. She recognizes the damage that can be done from shifting, and she wants to properly educate people who may turn to shifting to handle struggles in life. She has seen people be helped and has seen people be hurt, and I think she wants to see change in how education on shifting is shared. For example, being very clear about the major risks if someone is predisposed to psychotic or dissociative disorders, or how overuse of this coping mechanism can be really dangerous. I may not agree with shifting and it's community, but if anything people like her doing a lot of damage control and that can be very valuable in a group of people who want to find ways to escape their reality. Tiktok is a really easy to access platform for those who could abuse others and creates financial incentive to do so. You only need 200 followers to monetize videos and accept donations from livestreams. It's practically a breeding ground for abusers. It's also valuable to provide empathy, support, and harm reduction to people in communities. If we make fun of and alienate them, it's easy for them to think "it is me against the world". They will only talk to people they have common ground with and be scared to reach out. We as observers could do more to provide resources for those seeking help like linking or sharing support groups and videos or articles that are honest look into their communities. Otherwise, good work, thank for making this and putting so much effort into using your platform to bring attention to these communities and dangers they cause. I really hope their are people in these communities who are able to find this video and ask for help. ❤

[@tacochu9923]

Your video about Yames' games showed up on my recommended and now I'm going through the rest of your stuff, it's criminal how underrated you are for such high effort researching and editing! Here's hoping you get to grow a ton more

[@jamiepavs]

I just love how sure of themselves 16 year olds are 😂

[@basil9007]

Honestly I don’t even Blame them it’s scary shit

[@Hierofan]

Well, I mean, we were all 16 once. It's rather normal for a person that age to think that they know everything and how the world works. They will find out, just like we did, that they don't.

[@timfool]

​@@HierofanYou mean we didn't know it all back then? 🤭😁

[@rayanderson5797]

Yeah... I wasn't exactly buying it in the beginning, but once he dropped the "they're 16 years old" I was instantly like "Ah, yeah disregard all the preceding, this person doesn't know shit."

[@samuellovetro]

Great work. Visually compelling. I used to read the DJ subreddit and then forgot about it. I’m glad you covered it in a deep dive. Just the whole package is done so we’ll.

[@MusicFromAnotherTime]

In regards to Caitlin's situation and people around her age, I think the important part to distinguish between 16-year-olds of yesteryear and 16-year-olds now is just the ease of connection and communication they can have with each other. Yeah we were all 16 years old once where we had all kinds of stupid beliefs, but there was not nearly this kind of echo chamber and bubble society that we have now where people can just keep getting their beliefs reinforced over and over and over again. Even though I know I sound like a Boomer every time I shit on TikTok and social media, it's not because I think people are just wasting their time. It's for shit like this such as grooming and people getting put down dangerous paths before they have basic critical thinking skills and good life experience.

[@leokaptra]

This is actually so important to talk about. The new age movement has done more harm than good

[@mynameisworld]

Actual New Age isn't what this guy is talking about. Kids have taken over the name for a different purpose than what it was a few decades ago.

[@VincentIrkallaOfficial]

Arguably not as much harm as Abrahamic religion. I’ve never heard of smelly hippies dropping nukes or cleansing entire nations.

[@illiatiia]

New Age is literally just... ideas that take place in the New Age. It isn't particularly more dangerous than it was 20+ years ago, with the hippies. There are things worth talking about, but overall... it's not particularly dangerous, and it isn't party new. Its real-world effects are minuscule.

[@thebiggusdonnus8453]

Generalising is a lazy way to view things.

[@mariastoyanova5824]

The topic of the video is so interesting, and I respect keeping the people anonymous, however I really struggled to understand most parts where the voices were seriously changed. Maybe subtitles could be helpful. Other than that, amazing video

[@AshenXIV]

As someone who was recently diagnosed with schizoaffective order, DID, and psychosis, shifting really just sounds like a name people are giving to their disassociative imagination. I'll often find myself at work, not being able to remember a vast majority of my shift, because I was disassociated and daydreaming of some fantasy world or D&D character backstories or whatever. I also lucid dream really often, and it just sounds like lucid dreaming. Reminder that schizophrenic & schizoeffective people also have delusions, and a common delusion is the "I have special powers" one. I myself sometimes catch myself slipping into it. Thankfully I've always realized and known that these "alternate realities" aren't actually real, they're just a way for my mind to either protect itself from trauma (past or present,) or to entertain myself and distract from the monotony of working retail lmao. I've been getting better and haven't been disassociating as much. I don't think these people should be harassed and bullied, and though they need help no can make them get it but themselves. I truly wish the best for them.

[@pigglepower]

I live near Crestone and that whole town is weird. It’s a hub for new age beliefs and has lots of hippie vibes. I work at a local thrift store and before Amy died, her hiking gear was donated. The San Luis Valley has a huge rumor mill and it’s suspected that she died from cancer. The Valley has a reputation for being a place where all kinds of weird shit happens. There’s even an alien watch tower down 17 🙄 also, it’s “sa-lie-da”, not “sa-lee-da”.

[@Puerco-Potter]

I have "shifted" before. It is basically having a dream with temporal distortion and a lot of details and situations, basically a montage of scenes in rapid succession that describes enough of a life. The experience is basically that of "the lamp", that story that was posted some years ago. I had a wife, we met in college, she was basically perfect, we had fights and even broke up once, but we couldn't live apart from each other. She was kind, I could remember her smile, her skin, her hair. She had a bad health. We got married and I remember how she felt when she jumped in my arms. Then I woke up... This person that was totally real to me died, and even worse, there was no one else in the world that knew her, I was sad and is couldn't talk about it with anyone. I got really depressed about that for some time.

[@avocat0]

I don't remember the original source but I remember reading a story that is similar to yours. A man had been in a car crash iirc and during those moments he had a very similar experience. Growing older, getting married, having kids. Though, his ended with him noticing a lamp or something that looked off, stared at it for days to the point where his wife got concerned, then he came back with EMTs helping him onto a stretcher.

[@pinewolfpresents]

Yeah a few years back I was still in a pretty bad place mentally, so was sleeping A LOT more from depression. Like no job, 18-19 hours a day, if I even got up at all. Would usually toss and turn so the dreams weren't consistent; could have no dreams for months or 6-7 in a night But one night...there was no tossing/turning. I slept 20+ hours straight and lived out a full 30+ years day-to-day. I found the love of my life. There were setbacks, moments of passion, arguments, shared triumphs. We had 3 kids with *aggressively* curly hair. One child had a disability, and we loved him the most to make sure he never felt any different. I was genuinely the happiest I'd ever been in my life And then I just...woke up Took me about 4 hours just to come down off it. The part that hurt the most was going back to the day-to-day with no one that cares or loves you like that. It's wild

[@Puerco-Potter]

@@avocat0 "the lamp"

[@Puerco-Potter]

@@pinewolfpresents you have a period were you could not come to terms with that not being your current reality anymore... Is really weird to describe.

[@Alex_Ghost404]

as someone who has experienced meladaptive daydreaming on and off for the past 10 years, trust me it does have its positive sides but it can be quite damaging once it becomes chronic it becomes very difficult to "turn it off" as times goes on

[@ramseydoon8277]

That's how addiction/addictive behavior works.

[@barreltech8949]

“Love has won” is a new one for me, I heard of the other two

[@GothKatt]

There are a couple documentaries on KZbin about that cult in particular if you wanna give them a watch.

[@a_freeman18]

Long form documentary style video, postive comments from channels i either watch or am subscribed to, and a very interesting video. You have a new subscriber man

[@AnnaMae_ASMR]

Such an awesome channel! Im so happy i found you! Keep it up!!!

[@artofnikolettafarkas]

This was a really interesting and insane video! Thank you!

[@valentinacanada1503]

waaaaaaw it is amazing video , we really need more videos like this;... . Thank you so much .

[@LiveFreeOrDie2A]

This is what happens to a generation raised on technology overstimulated with screens since birth, and discovering for the first time they possess something called an “imagination”.

[@swefress]

Lol ok

[@mythicicewolf9337]

Shifting sounds like fun escapism! I kind of feel like it follows the unfiction/ARG rules- "Don't bring up its fictional." To really imagine yourself in these new worlds, you have to really believe in it. Like you said, it sounds like it could bring up some reality-percieving mental illnesses, but other than that it sounds like mostly harmless fun. If it allows teens and kids to escape a harsh reality, what's the harm? Heck, as a creative, I might dabble around in it if I'm experiencing artist or writers block.

[@Nekoszowa]

It's literally just lucid dreaming. Shifting isn't real compared to dreaming.

[@jayl5032]

The harm is that gullible and weaker minded people take it at face value. They believe its real. In turn, it becomes delusion. I agree, it can be fun imagining you're somewhere else. You have to come back to reality sometime though. Those that don't, are more of a danger to themselves.

[@greenonmyface774]

I shifted to my bathroom last night to take a shit and when I woke up SOMEONE SHIT MY PANTS. So crazy guys.

[@august9265]

came here because morbidforfun is in this video , and woah this is amazing quality. I can see u making it big on yt.

[@grosstoastie1216]

I'm personally what you could consider "new age," although I personally don't care for the term, and so far what you've covered in this series are the exact issues I have been wary of in the spiritual community. Spirituality can be just as much a good thing as it can a bad thing. It's a tool. Just like power tools you can use it to make something beautiful or you can use it improperly and cause serious harm to yourself. The point of spirituality isn't to be an escape from your life. The point of it, imo, is to gain deeper understanding of yourself and to ground yourself into your current life while being more conscious and aware of the universe as a whole and understanding your place in it. The problem with the new age movement is that all of these people don't want to experience life. They just want to disappear into their minds and that's one of the worst things you can do even outside of spirituality. Let's use shifting as an example. Used properly, you can experience very unique circumstances, stories, and experiences that can serve as a learning experience to bring back into your life and enhance it by giving you perspective and a deeper understanding of yourself. Used improperly... well, I think the video said enough. But it's kind of like how watching a movie or playing a video game can be a medium for introspection and discovering more about the human condition by analyzing the stories and characters and how they reflect reality, they can also be used as a way to completely disconnect from reality. One more thing, these videos have focused a lot on the negative aspects of the spirtual community and spirituality as a whole and I'm grateful that these things have been brought to light. However, that's only part of it, there is plenty of good out there too. I have more I could say on all this but I've already typed a wall of text so I'll leave it there. Thanks for lending an ear and do take care of yourselves.

[@Graysonderuloo]

FR FR! I like when people call that stuff out, but most only focus on the bad. It's more gray, like most other beliefs.

[@EmbraceTheStruggle24]

Definitely a great perspective - however there is no real perfect way of how to handle just about anything . Tbh, if it is meant to be, it will be meant to be . And whether we want to admit it or not, there is no real or simplified fundamental truth other than the fact that all of us technically take up space (but not as much you might think). It has been scientifically confirmed in recent studies that we are all 99 or 99.9% empty space; in terms of a quantum standpoint, and how we are composed of billions upon billions and possibly trillions of particles .

[@Scoophash]

This is some Nexpo level shit, no idea how this channel eluded me for this long!

[@jonesy279]

“Spiritual Discord” would be a great band name.

[@TakeMeToYoFishmonger]

17:50 hearing that shit, its just so... unsettling, this is actively watching someone slip into psychosis. jesus christ

[@kristinclark9798]

Very informative and eye opening video. You did a great job, thank you! I really like that your emphasis is on the harm aspect of these cults and spiritual practices, and that you care for others enough to make content like this.

[@Mail6]

Nice Video, editing good as always

[@ghost57444]

just found your channel last week, been binge watching almost all of your content. this is an older video n all but still, i love it. you're highly underrated man, props to you.

[@Theoy0utub3]

Thank you for making a video on online Cults without resorting to cheap tactics. Well researched, visually edited, sourced and original. Amazing video.

[@malade3000]

People will truely be going insane over dreams thinking they're shifting realities LMAOO

[@krakinshikazu6491]

Ok, also the shifting realities stuff really hit close to home. I have developed pretty severe maladaptive daydreaming during my early teens. As a fiction writer and bookworm, my brain being able to conjure images and scenarios is great, but getting into certain scenarios whenever I'm tired after daytime work and loosing 4+ hours in a blink....anyone healthy trying to develop this on purpose needs help. This shit is dangerous.

[@marcel7752]

i love these styles of videos i just watched the whole thing!

[@RomeoEchoDelta]

"yes, even Discord" That is the least surprising name on that list. To the point I'm confused that you even needed to specify. Discord is so ubiquitous in the subject of online grooming that talking about one automatically entails talking about the other.

[@lynseygabriel167]

This video is impressive. I appreciate the time and effort you clearly put into it. I especially liked the interviews. Well done!

[@Max_Mustermann]

Listening to the explanation of "shifting", I'm wondering how it is different from directed/lucid dreaming. It sounds exactly the same.

[@grimlesbians]

it is. i tend naturally toward having lucid dreams n tried some "shifting methods" and ended up just lucid dreaming, tbh most of it is just rly popular/effctive lucid dreaming methods that ive been using for over a decade. i think it confuses ppl cos theres myths that dreams dont feel real, u cant read or use electronics, etc. but ive been able to do all of those and sometimes experience them unintentionally during lucid dreams incl. physical sensations like pain, its completely possible + easier when u intentionally induce lucid dreaming. when ive asked ppl the difference with those in mind they dont have a real answer. "you just know" "it just is""youre just doing it wrong" and 0 elaboration. anyway even if u know ur just lucid dreaming it can be harmful to ur mental health tbh. like they say in the vid, in vulnerable ppl it can start to blend reality and for some ppl it can cause maladaptive daydreaming and other mental health issues. the trend of calling it and treating it like reality shifting just makes all of that way worse but also throw in religious delusions like the first person being interviewed in the vid exhibits.

[@girlballs6834]

It's rebranded lucid dreaming for naive people looking to belong to a new age community, the amount of manipulation with faux spirituality online is ridiculous, but unfortunately fools don't look before walking off a cliff

[@LSNate]

G.O.A.T Editing as always

[@VirtualCarbon]

thank u!!

[@AroundTheBlockAgain]

Simply put, people use coping mechanisms because their current situation is unbearable. Sometimes escapism, dissociation, and 'maladaptive' daydreaming is actually what they needed to protect themselves at that moment. I experienced with dissociation for years, and some of my experiences makes me sympathize with 'shifters'. I did this first as a way to survive a stressful situation. Then later the dissociation became maladaptive because my situation improved and I didn't need to dissociate that much, but I was still doing it a lot out of habit. I needed to recalibrate. This coping mechanism both helped me and hurt me. Or if you like, you can think of it as my _trauma_ hurting me, and recalibrating my practices & habits of dissociation was simply part of healing from that trauma. And of course, many valid coping mechanisms (community, spirituality, dissociation, etc) can be used incorrectly and become stressful right away. This is not unique to escapism, daydreaming, or spiritualism or talking to people online. If you can, talk to a good therapist, and you may be surprised what unusual coping mechanisms they will encourage you to try, or validate as genuinely helpful in a given situation. And you may be surprised at the red flags when they warn you about cults. You are not "too smart" to get taken in by a cult. You may genuinely think you're doing the right thing, as we saw in this video.

[@bostonsandatot4948]

Andre needs professional counseling as he still makes statements where he's refusing to own his actions thus he'll never make better life choices.

[@Barkii]

glad I discovered your stuff through that taiwan 2001 video, this is really interesting

[@FemmiFatale]

Wtf? He is not the victim here. He was an adult and she was a child. Saying that she manipulated him is fkn crazy. He doesn't even seem remorseful.

[@mailman9182]

This channel is underrated

[@XDrZaneX]

So shifting really is just disassociation and lucid dreaming. And probably a percentage of people who have maladaptive daydreaming. I have ADHD and have struggled with both issues my entire life. I adore the worlds I create in my mind. Some have been with me since I was five years old. But they're not another reality. At most they're a reflection of myself and my mental state at any given time. Don't ever let yourself forget what's real unless you want to end up needing more help than friends or family can give you.

[@andrewchoi6270]

Insane video.. thnx for this~

[@alejandrabarillas2387]

loll bro when i saw shifting I was like yea that makes sense....... I almost did it because my friends were doing it but the first time I tried I felt so stupid that I never tried it again and then eventually i started going outside and creating a balanced lifestyle..... Im embarrassed that I had that era of my life 😂😂

[@CrankyB1tsch]

We all did dumb stuff as young dumb teens. Back in the days it was drugs and dangerous stuff like going to roofs. Now with y'all weird kids it's all on the internet. But it's basically the same old story of dumb kids doing dumb stuff

[@jayl5032]

The important thing is that you learned it was bullshit, and could parse what was real from what wasn't. Good on ya'.

[@mythicicewolf9337]

How do you not have more views?? These videos are incredible quality!

[@THambrough]

Not to give Credence to the reality shifting beliefs, but I had my own experience not too long ago. I was in a coma for a little under a week while in the hospital back in 2021. I kid you not I remember vividly living several different lives as in full lives or full experiences that felt like 100 years have passed. I remember being different ages, different people in a completely different realities. Some of it was great. Some of it was horrible. When I woke up it literally it felt like it had been so long since I had been here in my original reality and body. I chalked it all up to dreams of course while being in a medical induced coma. But man, if it did not feel so vivid and almost a little heartbreaking that none of it was real. It really was crazy. Maybe that's something these guys are doing as well on a different spectrum.

[@dakotasmith9873]

So, if the multiverse theory of shifting is true, then there's a version of me who worked really hard to get everything he ever wanted and I could just step into his amazing life and he'd be stuck with mine. That'd be a fucked up thing to do, even to another me

[@PlatonsArm]

The psychotic breakdown isn’t when they ”come back”. The psychosis is when they’re losing reality.

[@swarlly]

Reality shifting is literally just playing Make-Believe like we used to as children.

[@Animebryan2]

Grown adults of today still play Make-Believe. Just look at the Trans movement.

[@Brodiebrodiebrodie]

⁠bold words for a man whos called animebryan

[@Johnny-mp2ew]

​@@Animebryan2wow bro you're so edgy

[@camelkingofthemediteranean949]

​@@Animebryan2 I agree. It is beyond insanity. Some things in reality have to be accepted.

[@Purpleshade29]

​@@Animebryan2 grow up

[@WhiteFox-ce8ep]

Amazing content man

[@AlexLopez0506]

Shifting has always made me unreasonably irritated. I have lucid dreaming AND I used to struggle with maladaptive daydreaming during some years where I was either in complete isolation or in horrifically abusive situations. It was a method to cope with situations i had no control over, not a fun, quirky thing and it irritates me that it's getting this popular. Tiktok is trash about certain things and this is one of them.

[@Carols989]

i love the video but I think subtitles were really needed during the voice distortion parts

[@andyroid6273]

This stopped me finishing the video

[@MannyBots]

Love Has Won, I actually came across some of their streams while live...It was one of few times where I actually felt the need to report to twitch as I witnessed both child @buse and animal @buse _live._ I can't describe the terror and helplessness which felt all consuming as I watched an innocent child forcibly locked into a closet, all while adults screamed and berated them with awful words I wish to forget. The same feeling consumed me again when "father" picked up a cat and launched their squirming body across the room...Both victims were powerless against their abusers, and I the viewer was powerless to do anything but watch and report what I saw...Every fiber of my being just screamed! I wanted nothing more than to stop their torment, even standing between them like a human shield. It's a trauma hard to explain, but after that I haven't been able to watch spiritual channels. I hope the child and pets finaly got out of that hell, they didn't deserve to be hurt by those who should have shown them love. Cult or not, no child or animal is deserving of such vile treatment, *_EVER!_*

[@LunarWildRose]

as others have said, "reality shifting" techniques and such, they just sound like how to lucid dream ... i lucid dream naturally, and later taught myself how to do so, not with 100% success, as in i don't always dream of my desired scenario, but daydreaming does tend to lead to the dream picking up where the daydream left off as i doze to sleep. i've just always had a vivid imagination, with imaginary friends, and creative dreams with lucid dreams and vivid dreams too (the latter being i'm not aware i'm dreaming and not always in control of my dream avatar). also ... i kinda did similar things and ended up with psychosis. i am still not sure if those spiritual practices caused me to full on hallucinate my imaginary friends, but i feel it did give me some leeway to have some sense of safety and control over what had otherwise led to psychosis (from major depression and trauma) - by this i mean, i accept my imaginary friends in my imaginary world, but i do also have negative hallucations that are linked to trauma (usually echoing something negative i've heard or ended up believing from the past) which when i calm down, i will axe and choose is NOT canon to my imaginary world and chuck it out, so to speak. there were signs of this (the psychosis features) over the years in retrospect. learning about mental health and psychology has really helped me a lot. this was long before "reality shifting" came around, and i did think i may have maladaptive daydreaming at one point, also before it was recognised as a disorder in recent years. i was influenced by my new age believing mom so i think i was vulnerable to believing in strange things back then. i feel a lot more liberated having developed a healthy skepticism and finding my own spiritual path in life, and not looking for escapism from a sheltered upbringing, so i understand why this is appealing to the young ppl especially during the covid era.

[@parentingwithsara]

Amazing channel, It opened my eyes...

[@johnglow7845]

The internet is not a safe place for kids too many babies are allowed to to roam free on here just to get caught up in some insane individuals world. It's sad.

[@TheDarkNet-.-]

Instagram and TikTok is just pure poison. It's sad watching them consistently win turning so many people into dumb downed hollow superficial shells of themselves.

[@reapergirl79]

With that shifting thing.. Back in my day.. We called it dream walking

[@aldosanchez-hh6ck]

“without wasting anymore time” proceeds to waste more time

[@christopherleadholm6677]

Wait, this is just a new way to describe "prerending".

[@FlowerItzel18]

Back in my day we called this “imagination”

[@loo9474]

32:30 There is only one Egyptian deity called Thoth, and he is not a goddess but a god (masc) and he is not a god of "love and war", - The ancient Egyptians regarded Thoth as One, self-begotten, and self-produced. He was the master of both physical and moral (i.e. divine) law, making proper use of Ma'at. He is credited with making the calculations for the establishment of the heavens, stars, Earth, and everything in them. -

[@MACENT]

Hathor*

[@TheDarkNet-.-]

There's a guy named Piccolo Sun who believes he is Thoth on youtube. Check him out. He's soul purpose is to teach you how to awaken, nothing more.

[@weebcapo]

awesome video insane bro

[@ahouseofpomegranates4338]

personally i've tried shifting and i'm not affiliated with any community. the experience is somewhat like lucid dreaming except it's not really the same. it's like you've been hypnotised into this sort of half-awake state where your body remains physically conscious of feelings your brain experiences in a dream, but it's not the same as sleepwalking either because you cannot move your body as it's happening. i'm also an extremely active dreamer in normal circumstances, and shifting absolutely does not feel like having a regular dream, even my most life-like dreams feel much much less real than than shifting. i don't think it's shifting your consciousness to a separate reality, but you've been hypnotised into this strange trance-like state where your mind and body are both convinced things are happening that are not happening in reality. i've also used the shifting techniques extensively to hypnotise myself into regular sleep and it's been a life-saver for me.

[@nacholibreri]

I am glad that you produced this. Young people don’t even have to leave their home or their rooms for unscrupulous and deluded people to enter right into their brains. Obviously, some young people like Andre’ and the 14 year old aren’t a cult- they were just two young people sympathetic to one another, but unprepared to deal with real life. Andre’ didn’t sound like he learned anything from the experience. The blind leading the blind. I can relate because I was a runaway when I was a kid. When I became an emancipated minor, then I really didn’t have time to join a cult because I was too busy trying to work to survive. I didn’t have any money, so that’s probably why no cult wanted me. Sort of funny and sad, but true! “Cyber sectarianism “- interesting term.

[@Erebus.666.]

These people really are delusional, and really have no idea what spiritual practices are. These techniques are at best, spiritual practice 'adjacent'. Definitely not to be undertaken without a qualified guide (who you definitely will not find on TikTok or Discord )

[@J4rmHell]

90% of people are on a fake journey theyre following the trend of awakening. You can easily discern who and who isnt a high spiritual being.

[@ParotandArmorfinish]

Can you get someone to write your captions because the auto captions don’t work on the heavy voice filters

[@coffeecat086]

Thanks for the epilepsy warning. Flashes don’t trigger most people’s seizures, those that do fall into a category called reflex epilepsies, specifically photosensitive epilepsy. Just spreading info:)

[@gorenoisebulldozer140]

This made me remember the James Lindsey trilogy of lectures about Gnostisism. They are entitled "Negating the Real", "The Gnostic Parasite", and "As Above so Below ". I highly recommend you check them out.

[@QuantumConundrum]

Not a reference I would have expected here. Cheers

[@ShatteredZen]

I really wouldn't, it took literally 5 seconds to see its just culture war garbage pushing a narrative for a right leaning tinfoil hat crowd. Its just "satanic panic" repackaged for current politics with a very thin argument for mystery schools and transcendentalism being responsible for progressivism and Marxism. Gross dude. If you want to smell your own farts go ahead, but it aint deep and its just as deluded as this crap in the video.

[@ghoulboards]

Mannnn, I’m gonna start needing these soundtrack credits/links! They’re too fire

[@aldnav]

Interesting topic. Though the interview vocals are hardly audible. Especially when my partner and I are just listening while doing chores. Nevertheless, great coverage overall.

[@aniken6877]

If I ever get a bloody nose imma grab a piece of paper and write. “ yeah, I’d like one large meat, lovers, pizza, and uhh one large supreme pizza with crazy bread, wings and a liter of Coke.”

[@Jessicab-u7c]

I apreciate the flashing light warning, thanks.

[@Lighterfoxx]

I didn't knew it was so widespread, maybe because I don't use Tiktok and the terms I used was 3D (reality as we know it) 4D (between dream state and awarenes) 5D (dreams that felt super real at that state) something like that. I was really in a dark place when I lost contact with someone who I felt the most spirituele conford by and I needed ways to heal myself and I started meditation. I can't be very negative with these meditation methodes, because it helped me in a sertain extend, more than any religion could. It's just very important to don't lose yourself into it at a point that it ruined your life with friends, family, work etc. What makes it dangerous is when kids/teens get involved in this who have less responsibilities and are more fragile to addictions and a target of grooming.

[@zisaletter4602]

quick note in part 1 (and later in this part) you have subtitles for the pitch-shifted individuals, it was really hard to understand the first guy in this vid without them. definitely prefer the subtitles on yeah my first thought upon hearing you detail how the 'reality shifting' works is just... okay, so you're having people tell themselves eight times in a row what they're going to imagine... and then they imagine it? stunning it's not magic, it's just imagination... like, I don't think these people are lying. i think all these kids really do THINK there is some magic stuff going on, but it's not. It's psychology and i do think it's genuinely dangerous to encourage kids and teenagers to specifically try to weaken their grasp on reality by perceiving imaginary thoughts as real. also unrelated but again i wouldn't classify autism as a mental disorder, it's not a 'curable condition,' it's not a disease or illness, and any person who thinks they can 'get' it from listening to a youtube video is delusional. a neurotypical person can develop depression or anxiety but you can't just develop autism. that's not how it works. now i do believe those children BELIEVE that they can 'get' it, and their belief is powerful enough to alter them, but again that's delusion, not autism. sorry for the minor rant, i just really don't like when people call autism a sickness. edit: oh wow i didn't expect the straight-up CULT BRAINWASHING TACTICS in that interview, also that's so interesting and neat that you actually got an interview and a story for this. legit journalism

[@kimbarleemoon3870]

Actually, shifting your perception is about setting your intentions for what you want in life. It's not about travelling to another place and time that is not in our reality, (although it could be a fluid multiverse type of spectrum), it's about setting a paradigm for oneself in a different direction one is currently experiencing. As an example, I was recently unhappy at a job and I knew that I needed to leave even though the money was pretty good. Still, I couldn't justify my misery for the money so I set my intention for the type of environment I wanted to be within my field. I was relatively specific about the environment I wanted, the people I wanted to be around, what the job would look like and I did meditate on those specific factors manifesting in a job position that would be available to me. A week or two later I had the exact job that I had been wanting! Now, some may chalk that up to coincidence and it does take leg work, but I think our intentions can be more powerful than we realize. The trick is that my intentions were within reason given my circumstances and location, they weren't wild machinations about living on Mars or something like that. Only Elon Musk can set that kind of intention... Make sense?

[@kimbarleemoon3870]

You don't have to join a group to do it!

[@MissFoxification]

There is a state between wake and sleep called hypnagogia. Not only can you replace your reality with something else, but you can visualise things and your brain won't be able to tell them apart from reality. You have probably experienced this already, without practice your mind will reject it and you will "jolt" awake. With some practice you can keep yourself in this state. It's no surprise that online groups would abuse this. Have a look at the wiki, it's quite interesting.

[@Snuffkkin]

I mean, If shifting was actually a real thing and not just disassociation from a person reality then A LOT of certain sites would go out of business I feel

[@ramseydoon8277]

Lmao😂

[@ConleySmooge]

Did you put a pentagram on the childlike Empress' forehead for your thumbnail?

[@westhefitting4105]

How terminally online do you have to be to discover “shifting” and come to any conclusion other than “this is just imagining”

[@kimbarleemoon3870]

The concept of thought creating matter has been proven! How we set intentions and act on those can transform reality around us maybe more than you realize.

[@roycehuepers4325]

Ahh yes... lets purposely let subliminal messeges, a known manipulation tool, in our heads

[@the_whetherman]

While I do not think Andre (sp?) is guilty of some sort of underhanded plot, it’s telling that he learned Thor is associated with _Egyptian_ mythology from this online “spirituality.”