The dangers of logging

[@shawnschoppert8540]

Glad both drivers wasn’t hurt, logging is a very dangerous job for everyone involved, Y all stay safe

[@rickharper1497]

Yes it could of been a lot worse

[@danrossell6375]

The headache rack did its job, glad there were no injuries.

[@williamuskoski1385]

No offense but that load will blast straight thru that rack

[@graysoncrigger3912]

@@williamuskoski1385 it could but it stopped it from going in to the cab

[@daw162]

@@williamuskoski1385 ditto - it looks like that rack should be steel - it wouldn't stop a high speed load, but it probably would've stopped that one. Been more than one local incident here where something like a log or a metal cylinder has gone through a truck and when it does, there's zero chance for a driver to survive unless it goes through the other side of the cab.

[@casterman2]

Between you and Logger Wade, I have a great appreciation for what y’all go through to keep the wood coming. And to keep your operations running. I’m on the other end of the Industry after the wood is dry. I have a cabinet shop and carpentry business. I love cutting wood. Always have. There’s a sawmill north of town where I get my hardwood slabs for live edge projects. He lets me help. Just got a Husky 372xp. Love it. Stay safe!

[@jonthomas4674]

Thank you for showing the good the bad and the ugly Tim! It is nice to get the unfiltered view. Glad everyone was ok. Have a good one and be safe out there.

[@jeffharvey6768]

Glad no one got hurt.... and you got the problem fixed.... worried about that cab... but good that it will shut now

[@lawnmoose]

Dangerous indeed. Drivers have to respect orders from each other. It's not about bossing people around, but about not hurting each other.

[@tomwold5366]

Thank God for the headache rack...Someone had a miss communication...Loaded truck always has the right of way..Expensive fix but thankfully drivers are ok

[@byronglover490]

So thankful that nobody got hurt. Tim, you handled the situation a lot better than I would have. Keep on keeping on! Thanks for your dedication to your channel. I look forward to your videos daily.

[@Ranalla651]

I love that you post these real videos and explain these machines. Some of us never have the chance to touch these machines and always cool to learn about them!

[@garyschofield4762]

Doing the volume TDK produces patience is a challenge.Tim you really are a cool customer.Much respect.

[@nathanial41]

How calm you are in the face of extreme frustration and disaster is a testament to the working spirit that made this country great... nothing to do except carry on. Thank you for setting a great example!

[@davidblack6825]

tune in next week to see how we put final drives in the loader! shewwww thats a long way to tram anything with tracks on it....glad no one was hurt during that....stay safe out there! and thank you for your videos!

[@steelfist65]

You've mentioned before that people should avoid following behind or along side of log trucks. I took that advice to heart. I live in Upstate NY, and there's a lot of logging activity here. I'm glad no one was hurt, it's just property damage. Things to take out of this is that all accidents are preventable. Safety always need to be first is paramount. I'm a security technician and I work for a national company. Safety is drilled into us to the point of annoyance, but it works. Great video.

[@leahzeiters8905]

Glad no one was hurt. Yall keep pushing through.

[@MrMharley]

Thank goodness it wasn’t a lot of speed involved, and glad no one was hurt . Please be safe !!

[@christinakirby2518]

Awesome video . Lots of dangers in the logging business. Jill is an amazing woman . She puts up with you and has raised 2 great girls.

[@carlwilliams8354]

Logging cut and haul rates are close to the same thing they were 20 years ago. Stumpage prices have increased,insurance has quadrupled, equipment prices are higher than ever! The profit margin is so low the only way to survive is high productivity and efficiency! No room for mistakes or breakdowns.

[@lenardo1970]

You did a great job holding your tounge on that one. As my dad would say, " that was worth cussing up a blue streak". Glad your guys are okay and no major damage

[@robertbradley6946]

When that door closed you could tell he was feeling better about it, glad the drivers are safe!

[@michaelsailors7794]

Glad yall were able to keep going and not hurt the cab bad. That's the reality of binders and chains. They can only do so much but nothing will hold a load in all situations. God bless and stay safe

[@rogerharper6060]

Thank God no one got hurt that could have been really bad stay safe

[@derekschmucker1609]

One thing we do on the farm is we run dual radios in the trucks. Because a truck really should have a cb in it, but we also run a business band in our tractor in the field. The business band radios are so much more clear and there isn't anyone but us on our channel so there's less interference. The only thing is it can be a little more confusing in the truck because you got to make sure you grab the correct mic.

[@jdatwood7086]

Logging these days is similar to farming. The debt one would have to take on to buy their way into logging wouldn’t even service the payments for equipment. You almost have to be born into it or run old junk and be able to work on it all yourself to make it up in repair labor but that means working 14-16 hours a day for 7 days a week. It’s a lifestyle it’s not a job or career.

[@CC-ss7ol]

You no exactly what you're talking about 👍

[@tigercat73]

Loaded trucks have the right away but things happen to great operators and drivers tim. My dad always said expect the unexpected while logging. Another day in the woods. Tim your videos show every aspect keep up the great videos.

[@toad3048]

Hey Tim, thank you for a great video on a very scary topic. My eldest cousin was killed in North Bay Ontario in his first week of logging. He hitched a ride a logging truck and the load shifted and came through the cab. Neither he or the driver had a chance. He was only 19.

[@davidpruitt2866]

I worked at quarry for years .I saw this happen with near misses other quarrys had collisions we never did .The loaded truck always had right of way.

[@jackdauphin7741]

It may ruin your day or week, but the headache rack did it’s job and no one was injured. Equipment can be replaced but people can’t. Glad you showed this instead of keeping it to yourself, this just shows that the danger extends out further than the cutting or the loading deck.

[@blaketerry8569]

It could have been way worse. Thank god for the headache rack

[@marvinyoung2376]

Love watching your videos, my dad use to drive pulpwood trucks in East Texas. This was in the mid 1960s and early 70s His delivered to Pineland Temple Inland, Jasper's LP or to Deridder Louisiana. Sir it seems like your having fun in them woods everyday, I miss it

[@bryans5339]

When I load, especially this time of year, I’m always trying to pack all the sticks together with my grapple. It takes longer to get a load like that, but I gain 2 or 3 tons when loading random hw. When I strap my load down I try to get them so tight you can play music on them with your winch bar. It takes longer but when your hauling 100+ miles one way it gives me peace of mind.

[@wishiniwasfishin5057]

Over here in east texas it's crazy fast paced production on pulp wood. I've worked 30 years at the mill unloading trucks. I have seen the change you are talking about. Contractors have gone from getting 4 to 6 loads a day to needing 25 a day to stay in business. Mill stays flooded mainly because of the independent contract drivers are a dime a dozen and will haul anytime anywhere. That slipping bark ain't no joke.

[@robertmintz63]

What l noticed right away was there was no binder chains on the load , & when he re-loaded , still did not put any on , should have had “3” on it!

[@joshuathompson3524]

Absolute nightmare logging this time of year with everything greased up like it is, i definitely feel your pain

[@derrickpettit3489]

Man that's unfortunate that happened, thank God Scott didn't get hurt, an everything worked out, just slowed production down, thanks for sharing Tim, heavy equipment is hard to get into, no one wants to train, no time for it, it sucks. You actually need to know someone that owns a company and your friends with or something ya know, be safe, an thanks Tim. 🚜🌲🤙🌳💪

[@williammatthews2948]

I'm just happy the drivers weren't hurt. I'd bet your back and kidneys were beat to a pulp tracking up there and back. Have a blessed and safe week.

[@johnwiggins1385]

Look into getting high and low channels put in your radio's. We used them a lot when i was dog deer hunting years ago. There is no skip on those channels. Not side band ,but high and low channels. There is a difference.

[@davecosti265]

I think a great idea on those hayrack trailers is what Bobby Goodson did on his trailers putting a headache rack on the front of the trailer that way the logs dont slide that far and wont go into the cab

[@beardoggin8963]

That is why a lot of loggers around here run the big steel headache racks. When you are taking a load of logs off the mountain it is going to slide. Many run chain binders as well as straps to help hold them logs.

[@sandy1653]

That coulda been a bad deal there, that headache rack sure did its job.

[@jasonwhitbeck6494]

Glad everyone is safe... Wow...

[@allenbaker8171]

I like the design WBT out of Hazlehurst Georgia have on their log trailers....The headache rack is mounted on the log trailer its self.

[@steamfan7147]

That's probably going to become the new standard. Kaufman and Pinnacle are also doing it on their trailers. It's a better design, if the logs can't ever get moving it doesn't take as much to hold them back in the first place. Six bolsters are becoming more common too.

[@johnduncomb6171]

All like that I think in Australia, logs are right up against it, so don't get any momentum up.

[@tcclark5284]

Bobby Goodson set his up like that after they had a load shift

[@makingithappen5178]

Now you pronounced Husqvarna correctly. Applause in the cabins. 👏 👏

[@SledgeHammer43]

It has gotten now to the point of what you were saying that you almost have to hire a trained equipment operator then train them for logging just because the profits margins are so tight. Even land clearing excavation companies are now logging because of the profit margins are so tight for them.

[@MrShanghai34]

there was a driver who was telling us about a poplar tree that banana peeled a log.When he came to a quick stop,,, it came sliding over his cab. Left the bark on the trailer.

[@mikedobson2988]

Glad no one was hurt, I'm sure y'all had a good safety meeting the next day, radio was probably a little less noisy for a day or two,lol

[@kenandrew4370]

Tim, I feel your frustration! Real glad everyone is ok, equipment can be replaced good people can’t. Cab shields in Northern Ontario and Quebec are bigger, strong and wider then the cab to protect cab even in a flip over. I’ve seen a load of jack pine loaded butt and top slam the load forward after hitting the ditch and no cab damage. I really don’t like those little cab shields. Best of luck going forward and keep up the good work buddy! Again glad no one was hurt.

[@ronaaserude8225]

I'd call that a near miss, best case scenario if you have a mishap; sure there's damage to equipment but the only human cost is hurt pride and of course disappointment that it happened at all. I'm sure emotions were pretty jangled and raw all around for a while, glad you guys have such a great carmaraderie and know how to support each other when things go bad like that

[@brentmedders]

The pucker factor was on another level on that one!!! If I was Scott you would probably be publishing a video on putting a new seat in a Peterbilt...

[@Chaplain_GM]

Glad Scott was Ok a Cab Can Be Repaired Tim But a life cannot Be Replaced God's Angel Saved Both of them God Bless

[@tmacie2]

I'm glad no one was hurt. Have you guys tried 3 part communication since there is that much noise? That way if there is no confirmation, no one moves. I know it could slow things down a little but it might save issues like this, and its free.

[@arthurbolton8477]

hi i am glad that Scott is safe here in the Uk the trailer has the headboard on it so the load is up against it and its law the load must be secured with chains to keep the driver safe. stay safe.love the video,s

[@jeanettedavis4963]

my names is andre davis,i been over the road for about 20+ years,drove log truck back in the 80s for b p graves in collins,ms. been doing oversize ever seen.ole mr.B P....use to tell us ,no need to rush,shit can happen.

[@tonym109]

Glad everybody was able to walk away/ drive away. Logging, ranching, trucking, farming, etc....we operate at on slim margins while at the top of the market is here the market manipulating takes place to keep there margins and talk of record breaking profits.

[@HTPJohn]

You kept your blood pressure down, good job. God Bless.

[@357bullfrog2]

I lost my childhood friend in a logging accident. He just simply forgot and took off his booms with nothing bracing the load. At least he didn't suffer. It was instant when the logs rolled onto him

[@denisricher1349]

More like a game of Pick Up Sticks from when we were kids.... Only more dangerous ... Great Job

[@jimmyeveridge9896]

Cant tell you how many close calls i have had with log trucks on the road. Have went to the ditch many times

[@robertstrong918]

Great video very informative. Yes safety first glad no drivers were injured. Yes logging is a very dangerous job. I seen choke setters lose their footing or lose their life from a choke that came lose. Best wishes to you and your great crew stay safe. After running that loader over that rough road At 12:50 I would need to take a break I would have the jitters real bad. lol

[@gregbraddy1497]

If you aren't grandfathered into the logging business, it's nearly impossible to start a logging crew. If you can put your hands on 50,000 to 75,000 dollars cash to make the downpayments you might be able to start a crew. Then the key is to be able to work for someone that wants you to be successful and looks after you. If you are cutting scrap most of the time you are doomed.

[@jonathandesselle4464]

Main thing drivers are not HURT... Done had plenty times skidders run logs in cab being pushed... I like the headache racks built on trailers...helps out alot

[@actorzone856]

You can put a rack on the trailer, Elphinstone trailers have them, you should'nt rely on the truck rack alone, only means an extension welded to the front of the trailer to stop logs from moving foward, has the advantage of moving with the trailer when turning, can be lit up with its own lights as well for safety.

[@allanwirkkala5689]

I've had to put a few trucks back on there wheels thru the years ,had one slide over the hill down in the canyon with the ice ,"should of stayed home that day,but my dad's to stubourn ,stuff happens stay safe glad it wasn't worse, rock on

[@ralphaverill2001]

Really, this is the dangers of trucking,.Steel haulers have the same dangers. Also, the dangers of not being a team player/following instructions. If the other driver had waited at the turnaround, as told, the event would have been avoided.

[@stevenbennett9785]

I think all jobs are fast paced now days. Operations cost for any business are so much now that you can’t afford to have downtime. Employees don’t really grasp it either because they all think you are making a million bucks as the owner. It’s a weird world we live in now.

[@the_darkgameryt]

If you guys have some ratchet straps then try using those to hold down the logs more so that it takes more force for them to get moved forward and smash into the back of the cab.

[@cliftonpearce3775]

Thank God neither driver was hurt in the accident. Both you and the driver looked very shook up. Equipment damage wasn't as bad as could have been. Headache racks are a must for log trucks this just proved it.

[@coyotehammer1438]

Get self programmable kenwood two-ways and make your own channel. In Alberta here the bush roads are radio controlled with each road having a different frequency. Works good most of the time

[@rustynutz99]

Thank God the driver is ok. Could have been worse. I only worked in logging for a few years and seen one driver get trapped in his truck from logs shifting into cab and another almost crushed when he went back in his cab and unloading crane didn’t see him and one slipped out of grapple and fell back onto cab. Any updates on Mr. Jay?

[@oliverharding9761]

To hell with the trucks and the work the trucks can be replaced if someone was killed or badly hurt then it would be different. I fell off the back of a truck on the 6th December 2006 and suffered a very serious back and neck injury and I'v been unable to work since. So just thank God for your blessings.

[@grantoyamaha]

Awesome loader and driving.

[@michaelolenick4078]

Just thankfully no one got hurt. Very lucky there that they were not on a public highway, it could of been worst. Try to have a good day guys.

[@reggiesmith8550]

Had that happen years ago with Poplar on short sawmill logs not even doing 10 mph .Coming down hill in woods and met an empty truck and had to touch the brakes ,headache rack saved my truck and me

[@MatthewHoag77]

That's a scary near miss. Think about a car crash, and then multiply by whatever order of magnitude because of the increased mass and size of the vehicles involved, and it could have been very ugly. To some extent, what you mentioned about the ability to get into logging is true of a lot of professions and trades these days, mine included. There is so much pressure to increase profit margins, and the only way to do that in most cases is to increase production or make staffing more efficient. People who are trying to get into my profession are having a terrible time trying to find an opening just to get a job, and to boot, the required schooling has become so cost-prohibitive that a significant number of graduates are in default or having to choose a different career. I consider myself lucky to have gotten an opportunity when I did, as I'm sure you and other loggers do as well, but I'm also keeping my eye out for an exit strategy should the need arise. Retirement cannot come too soon!

[@ericduck8273]

It looked like there was no chain on the load. Maybe the load should be secured before it gets on a section of road where the truck get up its speed. I know there is an area that they use to secure their loads before getting on the highway, but they should secure before they get to that location. They could use that location to tighten the load after the logs shift.

[@robmauldin3025]

Preach it brother money is supper tight!!!

[@The_JEB]

Up where I live (BC) headache racks on logging trucks are pretty much mandatory because of this reason. Companies wont even load a truck if it doesnt have one.

[@Graveltrucking]

Bunny ear headache racks on BC log trucks are stronger that those standard aluminum cab guards. Also the wood especially coastal B.C. is heavier and the loads are heavier.

[@johnwhicks8687]

I’m glad Scott wasn’t walking the dog yet. That definitely could have been bad. Dangerous job Great video. I can’t wait to see the gas jug work 👍

[@josephboley]

A lot of people don't realize just how much money and time was lost in that ordeal.

[@brinkme1772]

Unfortunately there was a log truck driver killed not too far from the house when someone pulled out in front of him. He swerved to avoid them (which he did), but sadly he hit a tree and the logs came through the back of the cab ... same style headache rack.

[@NotSureJoeBauers]

Looks like the headache rack was pushed forward on the frame. Maybe some extra blocking in front next time would help the rack to absorb more of the impact instead of the cab softening the blow. An aluminum rack like that one around here is for transport trucks, log trucks have much heavier steel welded racks

[@patwilson1056]

Tim had that happen to me with export fir logs on top, stop in time and just happen logging crew was a couple of miles behind,cut the ends re strap the load and carried on,lucky, damn sapp.

[@gregorygrimaldi9030]

Glad everyone came out of it safe greasy bark is no fun when you’re trying to haul a load of logs.

[@WinnfieldCustoms]

very fast paced here in N louisiana for sure. seen too many close calls and accidents. between equipment and insurance there just aint much left.. be hard to find a driver that hasn't had several log slide endeavors. always respect a loaded truck and give right of way, although that's hard to do coming thru a blind curve. glad yall were safe

[@bobbydaniel2874]

And that's why i like the tall racks on the trailers

[@jr-fy7hh]

Thanks for the learning experience, i like watching videos like that keep posting

[@jasonboyce424]

glad no one was hurt. Great video always enjoy watching your video have a great day

[@18winsagin]

The headache rack is too light I believe, at least some 3 1/2" Schedule 80 iron pipe I'd think . A little more speed he would have been in trouble.

[@Mcss-lu5hv]

Yes, those are not really headache racks. They have a disclaimer sticker on them telling you they are not to be used as such. If I were doing logging I would have the heavy steel ones or the ones made on the front of the trailer. Either way your gonna loose some of the weight you can haul. But if it saves a life it would be worth it. Loggers already get away with horrible securement practices. The ones in charge of the operation should make it safer before the govmt does.

[@bryans5339]

If that had been a load of poplar or hickory logs in the middle of May, it would have been worse.

[@gregbraddy1497]

Dang Right, I have had to hold a poplar log in place with my loader so the truck driver could bind his load and the log not slide backward off the trailer. Trees get super slick in the spring.

[@bryans5339]

Greg Braddy I use to haul hickory handle logs to a mill in Pulaski Tn that unloaded everything with a cat front end loader. It would take the operator 45 minutes to unload me this time of the year. He was nervous he was going to let one slide into my truck. The only way to unload cut up logs is with a knuckle boom imo.

[@wayneburnett8532]

Glad no one was hurt. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@brodyhadlock5367]

I think if the cab guard (headache rack) was back farther, it may have not hit the cab, it did it's job which is good though, glad everyone's safe

[@makingithappen5178]

The headache rack did its job and the driver survived.

[@tanioraaura1274]

Hmmm they dont throw chains over the logs to secure the load to minimize slide !! It makes a lot of sence. Good vid. Thanku the driver was very lucky.

[@tanioraaura1274]

Crack wagon right there.

[@tonym109]

If it was chained at the spot where the truck was loaded and these trucks meet at the same spot in the the log road it's very likely woulda been the same result.

[@tanioraaura1274]

@@tonym109 I'm calling that spot the g spot..*tight situation* And i know logs when not chained slide.forward and back. Bit like wearing a loose fitting pants. You need to secure them otherwise. *Loose situation*

[@kendrury9108]

Man, that could have been a tragedy for sure. Y'all stay safe out there.

[@kevinlewis7882]

I was wondering what would keep this from happening when you started or stopped quickly and know I see ,glad nobody was hurt

[@josephboley]

Hello there everyone Glad everyone is safe. The Lord was watching them two feller's cause we both know that could have been a lot worse.

[@thomasdentler8383]

Have y’all ever thought about using midland radios as well as cb radios?

[@herbertedgerly3734]

I got a big steel one that's wider then the cab and it has a lip up over the cab.

[@gravelydon7072]

Lost a friend and neighbor who logged our farm due to an accident on another place when a tree fell on him. At least he didn't know what hit him and he died on the spot.

[@sethbrown5727]

Ever think about putting a headache rack on the trailer or will that not work with your application. All of the log trailers here in WV have them on the trailers

[@jenniferpablo1973]

Hi Tim do the driver's wire down when you have loaddid to stop the wood from moving on the road Graham uk

[@alanlanghorn9528]

Glad all safe can understand that it's hard everyone is undercuting work then it make it so hard lots of logging gear for sale in Australia at the moment also stay safe out in the trees