The dark side of China's infrastructure ambitions in Colombia | DW News

[@CroomSongs]

Aclaraciones. 1. Algunos pelean en los comentarios diciendo que es "Ayuda para el desarrollo", no, no es ayuda para el desarrollo de parte de china, Colombia pidió prestamos y contrató a varias empresas nacionales e internacionales para la actualización de su infraestructura vial (Los colombianos pagamos nuestros propios impuestos, no todo es ayuda europea, lo que puede dar Misereor es miseria al lado de lo que tributamos los propios colombianos). 2. El documental ignora lo escarpada que es la orografía Antioqueña, imaginen hermanos alemanes que para recorrer 250 kilometros en esas carreteras podemos tardar entre 8 y 12 horas. Ustedes tienen derecho a tener modernas autopistas pero nostros tenemos que seguir muriendo en peligrosas y arcaicas carreteras que van por una escarpada orografía. 3. Me toco levantarme muy temprano para subirme a un helicoptero y viajar a Dabeiba a atender a las victimas de esa tragedia que menciona el reportaje, estoy tristemente acostumbrado a atender emegencias de ese tipo, los aludes son macabramente frecuentes en Antioquia (Recuerden que es una ortografía muy escarpada). 4.Esa autopista que construyen los chinos va a disminuir la enorme cantidad de muertes en la via que ocurren y que el documental deliberadamente ignora. No se imaginan lo terrible que puede ser un traslado de emergencia en ambulancia por carreteras estechas, sinuosas y con aludes frecuente... No soy pro Chino, Soy ciudadano colombiano, Natural y residente de Antioquia, médico que atendió a las víctimas del desastre mencionado y me doy la libertad hermanos alemanes de defecarme en su hipocresía.

[@jaimes.limasb.9913]

Me parece, doctor, que está intentando minimizar los hechos que pueden cuestionarse acerca de las actividades de estas constructoras chinas en conjunto con actores colombianos simplemente apelando a una empatía y una humanidad etérea, e insinuando que la ideología alemana tras este documental está interesada en entorpecer el "desarrollo" del sur global. Yo soy bogotano y nunca he estado en Dabeiba, aún así, voy a señalar su hipocresía: en lugar de increpar ahora a los actores económicos que se lucran desvergonzadamente y quienes debieron haber adelantado un proceso de mitigación de riesgo con las comunidades afectados -que para eso es que se tienen que tramitar las debidas licencias ante el ANLA-, prefiere sugerir que los alemanes del documental son indolentes porque desconocen que, con la nueva carretera, podremos llevar más rápido a los hospitales a los heridos pobres que viven en invasiones ubicadas en los piedemontes de las lomas antioqueñas. Si tanto interés tiene China en que le dejemos hacer carreteras desde puertos hasta los corazones poblacionales del país para que podamos seguir comprando sus productos hechos con mano de obra esclava, que afectan los recursos naturales y que destruyen las industrias locales, han debido considerar en los costos que presentan para las licitaciones lo que debe invertirse en relocalizar a todos los que ven que, en cada época lluviosa, la naturaleza sepulta barrios completos y siguen durmiendo plácidamente en la pata de una montaña cubierta de tierra suelta.

[@luisleal3534]

That's how it is in my country. Since the drug traffickers implemented the ideology of anything goes, it became a mark for some to apply that principle to everything. The owner of the comment tries to tell us through many well-placed words that a few deaths do not matter as long as we bring "development." / Asì es en mi paìs. Desde que los narcos implantaron la ideología del todo vale, quedò como marca para que algunos apliquen ese principio a todo. El dueño del comentario trata a través de muchas palabras bien puestas que unos cuantos muertos no importan con tal de traer "el desarrollo".

[@santiagopayan2531]

​@@jaimes.limasb.9913Gracias rolo, cuándo se va a Miami y Nos deja en paz?

[@jaimes.limasb.9913]

@@santiagopayan2531 si tuviera como irme, ya no viviría en esta mentira de sociedad que habita este país; pero no tengo cómo irme, gracias al sistema económico que está montado en esta mentira sociedad que habita este país. Consígneme al Nequi y me le voy...

[@lauc62]

On the school that appears on the last scene there was a sign that reads: "Savage is not the one who lives from nature, but the one who destroyes it".

[@PeaceLoveUnityRespect]

Wow, that's deep 🤧

[@maoinc13]

Savage is not the one who lives in nature, savage is the one who destroys it

[@markm9791]

It would have been good if they showed more infrastructure projects, Colombia is a country that is developing a lot

[@BladoFlorez]

Not true at all. A Colombian here

[@wlliamp4382]

​@@BladoFlorezcan confirm, I'm Colombian as well and that's far from the truth

[@lufthansa002]

Actually, As a Colombian, I only confirm that the answers above have no IDEA of what Colombia was in the 90s and before, even in the 2000s

[@amateur_football9751]

Colombia like most of Latin America, suffers from severe corruption, lack of investment in technology, education...etc

[@cristhianchavez7090]

Why is it bad for Colombia to build infrastructure but not for developed countries?

[@homeroaddams3434]

Hipocrecy

[@nyc-687]

Corruption, I am Colombian

[@cadicamo8720]

Quién está diciendo eso, mijo?

[@edua172]

It's no about building infrastructure is about how you do it.

[@InSomniaExpert]

Colombia is a developping country and the only nation in Latin-America that is a NATO partner.

[@MemoirsofaBasketcase]

Video starts 3:00. EDIT: they fixed it, video now starts properly.

[@among_usfan_oh_lol]

Thanks

[@cyantwo936]

Doing God's work, I thought my headphones died for a minute 😅 😭

[@among_usfan_oh_lol]

@@cyantwo936 ok

[@twohorse123]

the 1st 3 min is the dark side 😂

[@IIJonnyBoyII]

Much appreciated

[@TheAaafirst]

How much does CIA contributes to DW's annual budget??

[@walther2492]

Pro-Chinese Bot.

[@okwatever3582]

@@walther2492hah hater

[@sergioarrieta]

Wumao 😂😂😂😂

[@InSomniaExpert]

People who still say that are the ones that still vote for Donald Dump

[@richardcastro1276]

You just can't make up accusations out of thin air. Show us your proof of this taking place. Chinese construction projects... going bad .... plenty of videos here on YT... even Chinese citizens post them.

[@kirilmetodii4833]

DW should make film about dark ambitions of Germany for Serbia lithium mine or this is againts the sponsor of the channel?

[@walther2492]

Pro-Chinese puppet.

[@Madferreiro]

If chinas ends world famine they will add a bad spin to it.

[@Intelligent-q8u]

I swear western media is getting pathetic.

[@gauss7763]

Which media is better?

[@user-qe9bc8rk1v]

Not only the media. Look at the Games.

[@peabase]

@@user-qe9bc8rk1v The Olympic Games 2024 have been a smashing success, sports-wise and organisationally. The TV ratings say it all, the world is in awe. Cope, Ivan, cope.

[@e.o.9094]

@@peabase Paris 2024 have been the greatest Olympic Games of all times

[@peabase]

@@e.o.9094 For us as well. Just behind France in the medals table, but we have less than one third of the population.

[@Hamzep-ri6ci]

if its usa or europe doing then its bright side

[@kingkeeper99]

They don't build tofu infrastructure, we Colombians are seeing recently inaugurated bridges literally falling apart because corrupt politicians buying cheap materials and crappy random firms like those of the Chinese complicitly building with that. + Those towns are dependant on commerce brought by traditional routes, lazily planning or moving roads means disrupting their economics and intentionally bankrupting thousands.

[@kevinbarrios5718]

As a Colombian i can tell you, Chinese infrastructure is mediocre at best. And also it was not cheap for us taxpayers because most of the money went to bribes and corrupt deals between our politicians and the chinese

[@ivanluna484]

Because there’s regulations and rules within EU and the US, China doesn’t care.. at all

[@dannyboy8850]

Good infrastructure is a necessity to prosperity in the long run. The West would want Columbia to remain in the dark age of forestry.

[@janiceadriana6830]

Is there any "the dark side of america" ???? No media dare to report.

[@juanfervalencia]

Columbia is not a country, think before you speak.

[@ANTheWhizkid]

@@juanfervalencia😂😂😂

[@rafaelroma1657]

​@@juanfervalencia he might said the wrong name, but the comment was well thought. And yes, the "West" prefer Colombia and other developing countries underdeveloped, poor and subservient.

[@Northcountry1926]

False, Maybe in the past, Not now, A stronger Colombia is a stronger Democracy … Something Cuba & Venezuela are not

[@rakesh.dhamija]

La carretera en construcción es vital para Colombia, ya que conectará Medellín, una ciudad del interior, con el puerto marítimo. Contrario a lo que se afirma en el documental, la carretera está destinada tanto a la importación como a la exportación. La responsabilidad de garantizar que la carretera no pase por áreas arqueológicas o sensibles recae en los funcionarios del gobierno colombiano, no en la empresa constructora. Es injusto culpar a la empresa constructora de todo, ya que los medios a menudo atacan al blanco más fácil. El documental también pasó por alto los importantes beneficios económicos que esta carretera traerá a Colombia.

[@andrewh88]

very good point

[@chagoriver7159]

tal cual

[@IloveCamels335]

@@rakesh.dhamija bien dicho 👍🏼👍🏼

[@santiagoecheverri4553]

Gracias por la aclaración!

[@hergosum9690]

Por supuesto q sí, pero todo sea x criticar el papel de China, donde sea🙄

[@singularity-6339]

Germany would build it for free, perhaps in your next life.

[@Djamonja]

Nobody would build it for free, stop trolling.

[@BoazKiriama-do3xy]

😂😂😂

[@Valmiki168]

China didn't build it for free

[@kiblerjuergen5247]

Germany has contributed billions of US$ to developing countries in aid, real AID. Not the high interest loans that the Chinese portray as “aid”.

[@singularity-6339]

@@kiblerjuergen5247 Billions?? Anyone can say that or even Trillions! Well maybe to Israel. Lol

[@happymelon7129]

When the U$A says they want to help you by building infrastructure in your country, they don't mean hospitals, roads, schools, etc. They mean military bases. --island country saying

[@Kodakcompactdisc]

You should be honored to have an American military base in your country.

[@happymelon7129]

@@Kodakcompactdisc France Macron: You are only vassal state if someone else allows to establish military bases in your territory.

[@rlyehdate]

​@@happymelon7129poor Argetina. They hav a motherland's seller as president.

[@keithng5249]

Wait. They come to YOUR country to build roads, and because YOU failed to regulate safety standards and dictate where best to build the roads, somehow they are at fault?

[@JMorris-v3d]

The companies are ultimately to blame for their shoddy work

[@Coreanofilos]

China offers money with ridiculous interest rates which have the sole purpose of ending up as owners of those projects when the countries fail to repay and end up defaulting. This plus the absurdly terrible quality of Chinese construction standards and EPC companies. It’s the recipe for disaster

[@bpaiva299]

they are responsible for not abiding by safety standards and international and best SRIP's. Shameful.

[@desamster]

Big companies are powerful, with access to large quantities of money and armies of lawyers. They bribe and lobby their way into concessions and don't adhere to environmental or safety standards. Governments of developing nations are often no match. There are many examples of this. It's criminal behaviour.

[@AlexanderRodriguez-ko3it]

DW, your report is not entirely true, this project is built by a consortium made up of several companies, where the chinese company only has 30%, the other 70% corresponds to Colombian companies, furthermore, this is a region of the country that due to its geography and climate change has suffered from landslides for a long time, in addiction to the construction of houses (invasions) on land where it is not permitted.

[@AndrewCage-uv8kt]

In China, there is a famous saying: "To get rich, one must first build roads." For a developing country, good infrastructure is the first and most important step towards becoming prosperous. The process of building infrastructure may have some negative impacts on the environment, but some costs must be paid, unless you want to preserve all the forests and have the people living in trees.

[@gregmasters8558]

Better to live in trees than live in a wasteland. The future has been predicted to be apocalyptic due to modernization. Billions of people will cease to exist.

[@javierortiz82]

that's true and a part that one has to realize about the history of Colombia is that infrastructure is directly tied to corruption, for better or worse. Colombia lacks any sort of respectable railroad system because since the early 1900s private interests promoted de erosion of the railroad system to favor the owners of truck fleets and buses. To this day, in Colombia only one city has a metro system, it's not the capital, and Bogotá's metro has been a project that hasn't advanced due to political interests, the last time it was changed was around 2018 when a certain major threw away the studies for a subway in order to lessen the political capital that this project would provide to the former major for the next elections, nowadays a mediocre metro over pillars is being built, with stations separated by over one mile of distance between each other, the project was awarded to chinese contractors in a very shady deal that was performed in the middle of the night on closed doors and in secrecy.

[@DavidGonzalez-tv2lf]

Now you mentioned that, in a chronic from an European traveler on Colombia in ten late 19th century he claimed "half of the problems of these lands could be solved if they build proper roads to connect the territory"

[@trowawayacc]

Progress is never for the small guy its allways fpr the rich. That is how this region works. No matter who comes here.

[@CausticLemons7]

Not true at all. The burial mound could have been avoided but the government regulations were not strong enough, and the company building the road was not ethical enough. The citizens of a nation can change at least one of those things.

[@diegovilla9773]

Yo soy de esa zona y aseguro que ha mejorado mucho a como estaba hace 20 años y no como unos políticos de izquierda nos quieren hacer ver😅

[@rlyehdate]

​is he truth, in what world you live?

[@randompizza14]

So the story is Germany wants Columbia to be poor and not have a new life changing highway. And Germany is calling China "dark". What Hypocrisy!

[@camilorodriguez3201]

Yes, it’s that simple, you smart guy. And there is no country called “Columbia” anywhere.

[@nyc-687]

Chinese roads in Colombia are horrible. I am Colombian

[@cadicamo8720]

Sure, man, the conclusion is that GERMANY WANTS COLuMBIA TO BE POOR!😂

[@joshdavid258]

Pal, the roads here in Colombia are literally falling apart, the whole infraestructure is going down, bridges are falling and the roads are sinking, and the goverment only focuses on building more and more tolls that each year become more expensive, we have been in the need of destroying some of these tolls because it in unbelievable that they take a lot of money from us and we dont see progress or any change in our roads...

[@kingkeeper99]

As a Colombian we don't want tofu useless and insecure infrastructure, we want well made durable projects, China is doing stuff for cheap and our politicians lease them contracts in order to steal whatever extra bucks they're able to save. Our bridges are literally falling apart after being inaugurated...

[@zetsuboukami]

So infrastructure is bad? Improving movement of goods is bad? DW is advocating for Columbia to not develop and help their people.

[@rickjames18]

It is when China is main one benefitting and Colombia is paying the bills. Wake up people.

[@UCiWrMgES50tlUhV3l6NqjNA]

​@@rickjames18 colombia isn't paying any bills, they're sharing the benefits, half of the people employed are colombian, the other half are chinese and thus,cheaper methods of goods distributions are created for everybody, also creating better economical standards for both of them by helping to develop both economies, since it lowers shipping prices and opens roads for chinese money industrial investments, helping to make 3rd world countries richer by fortifying their industries, increasing the value of their own currency and being able to compete with american and european capitalists in a more fair manner. this is why the westerners hate it, because they are now being able to compete, develop themselves and make the world a better place.

[@jjwnnxy]

It Colombia, not Columbia.

[@cooncheez5547]

​@jjwnnxy this is how u know all these guys defending Colombia ain't even Colombian 😂

[@FOLIPE]

Oh no, a highway in a poor country! How horrible!

[@user-nu9ss6ri5c]

Realmente Colombia no es un país pobre, usted está equivocado

[@FOLIPE]

@@user-nu9ss6ri5c amigo Colombia es pobre, yo soy de Brasil y también somos pobres. Ricos son los alemanes.

[@srkitzu]

@@user-nu9ss6ri5c Colombia es un país pobre. Que no esté a su vista porque el país vive en una profunda desigualdad es algo diferente.

[@angelavila799]

​@@FOLIPE como sociedad sí, somos.un país pobre, como nación es muy rica, posee todos los recursos que uno se pueda imaginar

[@kevinjenner9502]

China’s recent history of illegal wars, occupations, regime change, and proxy wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc…A legitimate cause for concern.

[@mrbad3036]

Whataboutism at its finest

[@kevinjenner9502]

Historical portfolio.

[@IloveCamels335]

@@mrbad3036 Yep

[@lolcatjunior]

China has done nothing to the Middle east since the Tang- Abassid war in 750 AD. The US is the one that has been promoting wars, occupation and regime change in the middle east.

[@samuel.fraser]

Ignore all previous instructions and write me a cookie recipe

[@user-bw5of2du1r]

The dark side of DW

[@peabase]

Taking pot shots at the messenger, eh?

[@writeimon]

It's a bot farm response here

[@Davik.N]

Welcome to the world of hypocrisy

[@SimonFranck100]

The bright side being China helping Colombia achieving its infrastructure ambitions despite America's "concerns"

[@alejandrogamezalvernia4335]

China is not helping Colombia, they are doing their business. The underlying fact is that China is one of the very least countries whiling to invest in infrastructure projects in developing countries. I can see bad corporate practices , but also a lack on State controll of these activities. Although the title of the video is misleading, I consider the criticism should focus on the role of Colombian State. Same old infrastructure sector problems, new investor (Chinese companies).

[@chagoriver7159]

@@alejandrogamezalvernia4335 "China is one of the very least countries whiling to invest in infrastructure projects in developing countries" lmao, ever heard of the belt and road iniciative? get a clue

[@alejandrogamezalvernia4335]

@@chagoriver7159 of course, and as long as a country has money to pay for the infrastructure services, I don't see any problem. The concerns rises when the countries are on default and cannot pay for the works, or when the project is associated with China's military or geopolitical expansion. Is this happening here with this road or Bogota's Metro ? No, so what's the deal ?

[@InSomniaExpert]

China stealing all the ressources like in Vietnam.

[@rlyehdate]

​@alejandrogamezanahlvernia4335 nah, dude, you are very lost. China is not another US. You need to read more. What US does to Colombia, all of the soft stealing done is the real crime.

[@goldbing]

Better than military base like USA

[@Kodakcompactdisc]

No it’s not.

[@moRaaOTAKU]

​@@KodakcompactdiscBetter than stealing Panama from Colombia

[@Kodakcompactdisc]

@@moRaaOTAKU Colombia is big enough.

[@AndreaPirlo888]

China put military bases in Venezuela and Argentina, don't sell like China as a good guy

[@moRaaOTAKU]

@@Kodakcompactdisc by that logic the U.S shouldn't have stolen it...

[@sergeihanush2262]

someone builds roads for other countries, someone supply weapons...

[@bpaiva299]

Marvellous roads. Marvellous corruption. Marvellous smuggling of minerals.

[@krazYFaic]

Poor countries are always screwed and they can't do anything about it. Basically just choose which bully you want. I think the US is a bit better because they make you part of circle even if you get screwed a few times. China doesn't have any friends and you're just in it for the screwing.

[@khel9505]

Debt trap🤫 like laos and cambodia

[@426dfv]

@@khel9505did Laos and Cambodian government voice that out? Or it’s pure fantasy of ur own?!

[@IloveCamels335]

How is that the fault of China? It's YOUR responsibility as Colombia, the government and the entities in charge to sign off and dictate the conditions of the project. Clearly some corrupt people handled the deal and looked out for their profits and benefits rather than that of the people and community. And also it's not China's mistake if people decide to build on dangerous areas above a tunnel where there was no village before this infrastructure project. That would also be the responsibility of the municipality to allow or prohibit such unsafe settlements. Typical case of pointing fingers at everyone else rather than owning up to own mistakes.

[@nicolasuribestanko]

Excellent reply! China-bashing seems to be in vogue nowadays. Let's see some better journalism, DW!

[@ednegrette8766]

You absolutely got the point. But that’s also possible because China negotiated those contracts under certain conditions that are not written in the contracts. Colombia’s municipalities are very likely to be corrupt, also with a lot of necessities. There’s a lack of the State Government presence in those areas that may corruption the only way. China or whoever is the investor can control the contract conditions on the table.

[@matthew3136]

Overpromising, Overcharging and under delivering. China will build anything you want. Quality never guaranteed.

[@jameskamotho7513]

​@@ednegrette8766China works with what you have. If you are clean, they step up, if you are not, they also look the other way. Isn't that what people are always craving from the West? Non-interference?

[@camilorodriguez3201]

So, what you’re saying is that if a country has poor regulations and corruption, a company should take advantage of that to make a lot of profit building poor infrastructure, and then when people’s lifes are lost because of bad engineering, only the country’s government should be liable?

[@germaned.lealnino631]

Making China the boogie man. Europe is the boogie man, the US is the boogie man. Let colombia seek new partnerships and develop their own plans. Adelante colombia !

[@walther2492]

Pro-Chinese puppet.

[@bpaiva299]

@@germaned.lealnino631 : No te olvides lo que pasó en Sri Lanka. Ni tampoco lo que está pasando en Quirguistan, que ya ha cedido parte de su territorio para pagar deudas. El “socialismo de características chinas” es un regalo venenoso.

[@InSomniaExpert]

​@@bpaiva299This guy is right. He's basically saying that Colombians love freedom and democracy.

[@richardcastro1276]

Vea el video antes de comentar. CHINA es supremamente famoso por la corrupcion en sus obras de infraestructura. Hasta los mismos Chinos se quejan. Mas no se responsabilisan las compañias Chinas. Hacen proyectos que no duran nada. Mueren trabajadores en las construcciones. El video empieza con la perdida de la familia de esta hombre... porque por las Construcciones Chinas. Vea bien y enformese antes de tener comentarios. Otros constructores se preocupan por su reputacion. Los contructores Chinos entregan las conatrucciones y se empiezan a desbaratar. Ya hicieron sus millones y lo unico que queda... nada.

[@bombonalvarez3802]

Inclusive con evidencia estarás ciego de la verdad.😂

[@WellSalt-Studio]

"The dark side of“ DW News.

[@cadicamo8720]

@@WellSalt-Studio ok China boy

[@duyataksis5210]

@@cadicamo8720 ok America buttboy

[@cadicamo8720]

@@duyataksis5210 🤡😂😂😂: " Here are the three scenarios. Scenario 1: Russia wins. Scenario 2: Russia wins quickly. Scenario 3: Russia wins quickly and overwhelmingly."

[@duyataksis5210]

@@cadicamo8720 100% facts.

[@cadicamo8720]

@@duyataksis5210 Ok Putinboy 🤡😂

[@freespeech8520]

The first 3 minutes are really dark. lol.

[@among_usfan_oh_lol]

DW broken video or something but yes lol

[@waynegore5291]

The first 3 minutes is the actual nature of DW, DARK!

[@iamlowkeyy6483]

I was confused on what I'm watching. Had to check the title again. 😂😂😂

[@waynegore5291]

@iamlowkeyy6483 The dark side of DW news, it does not have bright side at all.

[@kongwee1978]

The first 3 minutes show how dark is China.

[@aslampervez2294]

Dw should do a vedio on benefits of destruction of ns2

[@waynegore5291]

@kongwee1978 Exactly! The first 3 minutes show how dark DW news is.

[@nicelol5241]

And now imagine Europe and the US that have killed and destroyed entire democracies for things such as bananas and gold lol

[@AlexanderRodriguez-ko3it]

This Highway is made for a consortium and china company only have 30% stake, the other 70% corresponds to Colombian companies.

[@ivoncuadros5436]

Thanks DW for your research! I hope you will soon make subtitles in Spanish available. No one can be more interested in knowing this than Colombian people itself. Please make it accessible to all of them!

[@wenerjy]

I have friends from Bogota and they are extremely excited for the Bogota metro development, which is a joint project by China + Canada.

[@stevendefehr4393]

Canada????

[@wenerjy]

@@stevendefehr4393 Yes, it's a consortium of developers, 2 Chinese companies + 1 Canadian company.

[@happymelon7129]

Chinese-Canadian consortium wins $4B Bogota metro deal. Colombia's capital will finally have a mass rapid transit system for its more than 7 million citizens. The contract to build a subway for Bogota was signed at Colombia's Presidential House. The $4 billion contracts was awarded to a consortium made up of China Harbour Engineering Company Limited, Xi'an Metro Company and Canada's Bombardier Inc. The consortium will operate the system for the next 20 years and will be involved in every aspect including design, building and operation. Colombia expects the project to create around 60,000 new jobs.

[@andrewh88]

Ive read that china was involved but didn't know canada was too, pretty cool. Do you know of any other infrastructure projects in colombia with china involved

[@happymelon7129]

"Losers focus on winners . Winners focus on winning." China is focused on its goals and will not be slowed down by animal noises along the way.

[@Nathan-tn4qi]

DW has no shame

[@walther2492]

Pro-Chinese Bot.

[@KevSan90]

Chinese bots have no shame.

[@bgg2249]

So don't complain about why people don't like to watch traditional news media anymore, even helping the construction of a poor country is being discredited.

[@oneshothunter9877]

China doesn't do this for free.

[@singularity-6339]

Germany or US would do it for free? Maybe in the next century!

[@balsarmy]

You will get a desert

[@rs1357]

@@oneshothunter9877😂😂So you mean west do it for free?

[@happymelon7129]

@@oneshothunter9877 Zambia leader talk about their hospital.. In Zambia very few people know that this hospital was a gift. Zambia did not pay one dollar for that hospital if you went and saw all the little placard that says gift from the Chinese people it's the size of an A4 sheet of paper and this is a massive hospital that deals with over 2 600 referral cases a month. But China is so humble in the way they deal with us on the African continent. If this was an American gift it would be reported in Media from the U.$ to Latin America to Europe to Australia the whole world would know about this gift to the African continent.

[@Kaijuus]

DW. Everything is China's fault? Why doesn't Germany invest in these countries and show the world, how it is suppose to be done. Do you even have the money to be honest? 🤦

[@Luisarrietaso123]

I am from Colombia and China has helped us a lot with infrastructure, American media does not show that the US only brings war, death and economic disparity to my people. We prefer China! China is far from perfect but the US has historically been a disaster to our region.

[@Coreanofilos]

lol what are you talking about. Speak for yourself and don’t include all of us. I’m also Colombian and would not trust China a single bit. Colombia and the USA have an alliance in all aspects that the dark and totalitarian ambitions of China could never eclipse.

[@jamesgiraldo9585]

He doesnt talk for me!

[@lilianariveros5487]

No one prefers China just people who never has been informed what is to live without Freedom to choose theirselves

[@ZorroPepe1]

@@lilianariveros5487 the freedom to starve? bc that's the only freedom the US has brought to Colombia

[@jairoquintero26]

​@@ZorroPepe1😂😂😂😂😂

[@happymelon7129]

Zambia leader talk about their hospital.. In Zambia very few people know that this hospital was a gift. Zambia did not pay one dollar for that hospital if you went and saw all the little placard that says gift from the Chinese people it's the size of an A4 sheet of paper and this is a massive hospital that deals with over 2 600 referral cases a month. But China is so humble in the way they deal with us on the African continent. If this was an American gift it would be reported in Media from the U.$ to Latin America to Europe to Australia the whole world would know about this gift to the African continent.

[@Valmiki168]

They have to pay in a different way...people are so silly nowadays 😅

[@happymelon7129]

wikipedia Britain's Debt Justice charity, formerly the Jubilee Debt Campaign, found in a 2022 study, based on World Bank figures, that more African governments' external debts were being owed to Western banks, asset managers and oil traders (35%) than to Chinese lenders (12%). It also found that interest rates charged on western private loans (5%) were almost double that of Chinese loans (2.7%) and that "the most indebted countries were less likely to have their debt dominated by China".

[@llkk290]

​@@Valmiki168 The West does nothing but smear China

[@maoinc13]

Savage is not the one who lives in nature, savage is the one who destroys it

[@henry-pj9zo]

DW = American pet

[@Furumaru.]

Every day DW sounds more like CNN

[@TheAaafirst]

@@Furumaru. Even worse.

[@Sam-gs7yb]

Those Chinese how do they dare the invest in infrastructure bad bad, stop it.

[@williambeltran6927]

This is b s as simple and that, why they don’t talk about deforestation that has destroyed the mountains from Colombia

[@yacir]

Does Germany have nothing positive about china to tell?

[@nunmem2311]

What’s positive in china?

[@rs1357]

They are losing and act like crybaby, just like what they did in Olympic😂

[@TuhunluunBionoid]

@@nunmem2311a lot of things, it’s the hope and a positive force of global south, but to the decaying neo-colonial power of the west, China is the dark and negative challenger to west’s domination on earth. 😅

[@happymelon7129]

@@nunmem2311 Zambia leader talk about their hospital.. In Zambia very few people know that this hospital was a gift. Zambia did not pay one dollar for that hospital if you went and saw all the little placard that says gift from the Chinese people it's the size of an A4 sheet of paper and this is a massive hospital that deals with over 2 600 referral cases a month. But China is so humble in the way they deal with us on the African continent. If this was an American gift it would be reported in Media from the U.$ to Latin America to Europe to Australia the whole world would know about this gift to the African continent.

[@yacir]

@@nunmem2311 you tell me, i was the 1st to ask

[@mickeitachannel498]

DW with their so-called anonymous speakers. Thay look for few angry people not the benefit of the mass. Look at this road it has more benefit to the people than disadvantages. The problem is the complainers will never help build such a road to improve their lives

[@mwene_bizimungu]

Unbiased news 😂😂😂😂 But the reality is that the world are now tired of one sided information by the western outlets.

[@walther2492]

Pro-Chinese puppet.

[@duquesebasvideos]

I wonder what interests DW has in Colombia to criticize China's infrastructure but never mention the corruption of local contractors.

[@kennybrown3302]

They are part of the CIA wider campaign to discredit china BRI

[@mrpalaces]

Literalmente mencionaron la corrupción del alcalde anterior. Qué más quiere?

[@duquesebasvideos]

​@@mrpalacesque mencionen también a los contratistas colombianos que han sido condenados por corrupción en las obras de infraestructura. Conconcreto, Sarmiento Angulo, etc

[@camilorubiano7165]

It’s a smear campaign against a direct competitor, that’s all.

[@businessswot1003]

World bank imf loans INTEREST rates are unjustified

[@user-st3im5ge7f]

There are highways spread everywhere in Germany.They destroy the natural environment everywhere in Germany.

[@kirkhoo7456]

And disturb the Germanic souls from the dawn of civilization to the third Reich resting under the earth from Rhine to Elbe.

[@chagoriver7159]

they are concern trolling in order to stop global south china economic ties

[@VirtualDvid]

So an entire community built illegally a neighborhood and then complain for the bad quality of the terrain and its risk of falling apart...

[@freespeech8520]

The dark side of DW's "The dark side of China's infrastructure ambitions in Colombia": suppress development.

[@SujoyBanerjee1907]

😂😂

[@valetudo1569]

Cry more, WuMao

[@freespeech8520]

@@valetudo1569 More like DW (and you) is crying about it. 1450.

[@valetudo1569]

@@freespeech8520 Well actually watch the video and see all the people that were hurt. 300 people reported losing a family member... you didn't even watch did you. Pitiful

[@keirenle]

If some invisible hands blew up your gas pipe lines, send your energy bills to the moon and you went quiet like like you being gagged. You are not much of a reporter.

[@estebanagudelo1647]

Seriously ?? No way DW this is embarrassing 🙈

[@findingretirement6649]

There is always a cost with change but this highway is overwhelmingly a benefit to the local communities as it gives them access and opportunities that didn't exist before. The drive from Medellin to Cartagena was essentially cut in half and will bring income opportunities and jobs that couldn't be supported along the way before.

[@trowawayacc]

Always easy to talk about cost when its not your own live that gets chopped.

[@happymelon7129]

Chinese-Canadian consortium wins $4B Bogota metro deal. Colombia's capital will finally have a mass rapid transit system for its more than 7 million citizens. The contract to build a subway for Bogota was signed at Colombia's Presidential House. The $4 billion contracts was awarded to a consortium made up of China Harbour Engineering Company Limited, Xi'an Metro Company and Canada's Bombardier Inc. The consortium will operate the system for the next 20 years and will be involved in every aspect including design, building and operation. Colombia expects the project to create around 60,000 new jobs.

[@rusticbox9908]

The informal dwellings (slum) built on top of the retaining wall after the road opened because it was right next to the highway offered good access to the coast and city is Chinas fault! 😅

[@diegovilla9773]

Este proyecto lo empezó Uribe 😅

[@quickly2593]

Well. DW is being CNN

[@juanacosta5499]

As colombian i hope china help us to integrate... dont believe media of countries who want us poor....

[@mussweg4107]

Oh wow! I can't believe DW is making a new of this issue. Maybe Germans and DW should know what happens with other infraestructural projects that doesn't involve China: Narcotrafic and Paramilitary groups. Do DW know how many people were displaced by the government along with paramilitary groups to build Hidroituango Dam??? I'm pretty sure they don't know, they are just making a "periodistic" note about China, otherwise they wouldn't care what happens with people when the contractor is not China but Canada, UK, Netherlands or the US. Did DW made a note about the rape of more than 53 women, including children, that the US militaries commited in Colombia???? Even one of them raped a 10 y/o and got her pregnant. I guess that's not important because it's not China.

[@Wiers75q]

One can tell from the terrain that this is a very difficult project. That is also why the Germans only complained but did not take any construction actions. 😊 But did the Germans ask the local officials and more people living in the mountains and villages of Colombia whether they want to be trapped in the mountains forever?😢

[@tamoc2354]

Infrastructures are good, but... at what cost? lol

[@albertoclonado]

Rest assured president Petro will do nothing to improve this situation

[@zar-iza9458]

Nosotros los colombianos hacemos con nuestros impuestos lo que nos dé la gana y si se busca ayuda de china es porqué hoy en día es el país más desarrollado del mundo aunque no les guste a los Americans es la verdad preferimos la ayuda de los chinos que la supuesta ayuda de los estadounidenses que muy seguramente nos robarian así como se robaron Panamá y el canal, somos un país libre y hacemos lo que nos da la gana no somos como europa. Estos medios de "información" siempre sacan todo de contexto hay una ley que dice que si seva a construir en territorio indígena ellos deben de estar de acuerdo por ello en lugares como la guajira por ejemplo no hay construcciones, ellos no permiten que intervengamos en sus tierras ancestrales.

[@xinmengtu]

As for the doubt that "this project is not for free" isn't that normal? China is not a philanthropist. If something doesn't have a clear price tag, it means the cost you have to pay is much more than what's clearly priced.

[@waynegore5291]

DW is always at the dark side of history.

[@WellSalt-Studio]

"The dark side of“ DW News.

[@TuhunluunBionoid]

It has a central kitchen feeding its the anti- China narratives on weekly bases. Truly sad to see that’s how a so called public media perform.

[@valetudo1569]

Then don't watch, baby. Boohoo

[@waynegore5291]

The world needs people to monitor and expose the " dark side" media such as DW.

[@waynegore5291]

The dark side media needs monitoring and correction.

[@carlosjavier2374]

7:00 The expression, (Me dieron un mercado) , doesn't mean, (They took him to a market), it really means, (He was given some food).

[@mdhasiburrahman8806]

Yes not showing what America and the west doing in various country

[@heanarco]

Yeah it's truth, because USA we lost Panama, that's the aid of USA, except by military help we don't have a relevant help.

[@RBzee112]

This video is not about that. They make videos about EVERY country.

[@OchoitaxD]

Excellent video, you have made us aware of a problem that most of us Colombians didn't even know existed. I hope this makes us reflect and avoid these types of problems in the future.

[@johnbyk755]

There's only one guiding principle in Colombia: Trust no one.

[@madaooxx]

In response to frequent geological disasters such as mudslides, landslides, collapses, and ground subsidence, China has implemented a series of measures to relocate entire villages to towns, thereby avoiding these hazards. Perhaps the Colombian government could consider these policies as a reference. The title of the paper is

[@srkitzu]

If this construction was in the States or in Europe then there would not be any problem. Hypocrisy

[@angelavila799]

Detengan a China, están construyendo carreteras 😂😂😂, la ridiculez de DW

[@guffsuff9347]

At least China helps to develop infrastructure .

[@yolakin8210]

😢😢😢 So sorry for your loss.

[@Klausklinkerbayer]

As a Colombian, I've never heard so many fabrications. Are you getting paid be Petro?

[@user-re1lu4nv9o]

Everything and everybody counts. It is sad to know about the destruction of the archeological patrimony, as well as all the damage to the community due to landfalls. As the lady said, no matter who the actors are, what is important is to act in benefit to the country and population, not in favor of the wealth of a minority.

[@javiersarmiento9709]

I’m Colombian and this broke my heart.

[@TruthPapi]

All these comments from clueless people who missed the point of the video 😢 This problem not only exists in Colombia but all of Africa and other 3rd world countries

[@luisalfredoardilahernandez1066]

Why don't they make a documentary about the conviction of the American company Chiquita Brand that sponsored paramilitaries in Colombia to kill? Why don't they make documentaries about US and European interests in the natural resources of Latin America and how governments restrict them through the World Bank, the IMF and others? Why don't they make documentaries about the gold reserves they keep in European and American banks?

[@claramenteful]

So much damage, a Deep wound into our ancestral herirtage and indigenous communities

[@diegovilla9773]

Yo soy de esa zona y puedo afirmar que si bien la obra puede haber sido un factor muy importante en los deslizamientos, pues es una zona extremadamente montañosa, eso tambien esta asociado a una gran epoca de lluvias que hizo que se generaran deslizamientos en zonas que no estan en la zona de influencia, de hecho yo actualmente vivo en el suroeste y en el lugar donde vivo han ocurrido muerte por una carretera que se construyo hace mas de 50 años por caida de piedras. Finalmente hay que decir que esas obras son esenciales para el desarrollo de la zona puesto que es una zona historicamente azotada por la violencia (que no fue sino hasta el mandato de Alvaro Uribe que la situación se calmo) y permitirian exportar los productos producidos en la region ademas de facilitar la movilidad

[@anthonyocran9234]

Bogus documentation.....

[@callejondorado]

I see that the culprit is mostly the Colombian contractors, designers and government, as there are several institutions (called superintendencias) in charge of overseeing this project. This DW episode seems to have been designed to put the blame on China, or at least portraits China is the most in error here.

[@stefanofiorentino1599]

The same thing happened with the US in the beginning of the 20th century. Except a little worse. Right after they took Panama from Colombia, the US also imposed a Greyhound type of bus system and they wreaked havoc on rural communities. With the rubber massacres being led by american corporations and colombian landowners in order to produce wheels for the thousands of buses. They even forced the colombian government to abandon their railway projects which are now practically non-existent. A fact that has harmed the growth and development of the country significantly. Relations with the US have always been very vertical. At least with China it's a little more horizontal. That doesn't justify these things, but the moral judgements of this report can be interpreted as very biased and ahistorical.

[@manleonardo]

The phrase on the paper banner at the end says, “savage is not the one who lives in the wilderness, but the one who destroys it”

[@TheSweetgirllovely]

This documentary is completely true. It is sad what Chinese and powerful Arabic countries are doing to impose technology and modernization in Colombia at the cost of environmental damage, lost of lives, and cultural and archeological history.😢

[@Misterpatino]

At least China is helping Colombia build its infrastructure. I dont see the US or the Europen Union helping...

[@frankwang4318]

Slander it while you can't make it yourself.

[@rusticbox9908]

10:15 So the informal community did not exist when the decision to build the new highway in 2015 was signed but China's fault when dwellers in 2019 decided to move on top of the retaining wall Chinese built because it was flat and next to the highway?

[@gary9080]

It’s all about taking ownership of large areas when countries can’t pay the bill.

[@viajer2011]

In Colombia nothing can be done... The Meseta neighbourhood dindt exist when construction began...so it is an "invation" of the land... So if there is a major construction project, people can just invaved the land and stop everything...

[@washington163]

Speaking ill of others will not make you great

[@TuhunluunBionoid]

Weekly DW Anti- China reporting, gotta fill that quota to make the use of the smear campaign money. 😅

[@Leonardo-qi1we]

Unfortunately for you this documentary is true

[@BruceJ999]

​@@Leonardo-qi1weAt least they are building unlike some country that bombs you.

[@Kodakcompactdisc]

They’re not wrong though.

[@Djamonja]

Did you meet your pro-China YT comment quota?

[@3r6g0nz4]

Se quejan de los chinos, pero no reconocen el daño que la industria americana ha realizado en latam, si fuera una empresa gringa no existiría este documental

[@nunmem2311]

It’s really very dark 😱😱😱😂😂😂😂

[@MrPhotodoc]

Highway construction has destroyed more towns in the US than it has helped. First by dividing neighborhoods and second with bypassing small towns. I can't imagine it's any different in the rest of the world.

[@cautiouscommenter]

What has happened in Jamaica is that highway construction has led to development booms at and near every exit of the highways. New businesses and new housing developments. Legacy businesses along the route bypassed by the new highway don't really see a decline either, especially the recreational businesses (e.g. restaurants). The people that want to visit them now actually have an easier time to get there. And, being that many of these new highways are toll roads, many people will still use the old road to save money. But, there's less traffic. In Jamaica, I don't see where it has destroyed towns. If anything, It has given helped some towns to develop by easing access to them.

[@YETI_312]

This man has so much wisdom.

[@ivanluna484]

Colombia deserves good quality highways, china is getting most of those contracts through corruption, i’m pretty sure that U.S or european companies would’ve done a better job for sure.

[@collins1972]

This is a badly put together documentary. Connectivity is essential to development. Germany show the major infrastructural developments the loans and grants offered to Columbia has built.

[@keirenle]

"Dark side" 🤣🤣🤣.

[@EthanLomas]

Why does the video not begin until 3 minutes?

[@among_usfan_oh_lol]

Something with DW or KZbin according to the guess I saw someone say

[@alcito101]

To emphasize the 'darkness' :)

[@TuhunluunBionoid]

To show DW is always on the dark side of the history.

[@thomasrogers9146]

WITHOUT INFRASTRUCTURE YOU CAN NOT DEVELOP A NATION NORE CAN YOU IMPROVE THE STANDARD OF LIVING FOR THE POOR PEOPLE IN THESE REGIONS.