The Dark Side of Science: The Little Albert Experiment (Short Documentary )

[@gemfyre855]

"Can you condition a fear in a person?" Sure you can, it's called subjecting them to abuse.

[@nedludd7622]

It is called religion.

[@37thousand]

Baby Albert: “yeah I don’t mind the rat, quite cool indeed” Watson: “oh yeah? What if I bang on a fucking piece of metal? Not such a cool rat now huh”

[@ScumfuckMcDoucheface]

@super hessu hahaha right?

[@kriegguardsman9117]

Isn’t that being traumatized, kinda?

[@Jabarri74]

How about we reinvent the flu and lock down the world coz even if you dont die your family will. Its all psychology

[@Luna3141592]

pre-war psychologists were really like "when I scare a child, they show symptoms of fear" LIKE NO SHIT, SHERLOCK

[@etherealkivfx]

omg i love your profile pic , Lin is *everywhere* haha

[@SieMiezekatze]

True thou

[@shadowpestilence5676]

They didn’t know infants experienced pain until the 70’s, so this more than likely wasn’t common knowledge until later on, as well.

[@ludwigwittgenstein1280]

Let’s say those “psychologists” didn’t know what empathy was because they couldn’t feel it.

[@user-rz7cm2we3x]

@@shadowpestilence5676: More likely: They disregarded the pain in infants until 70’s. If they really “didn’t know,” it means they must have been abysmally stupid and unfeeling. Or psychopaths. Now they try to disregard the pain felt by foetuses…

[@sundragon1976]

They said Albert rarely ever cried before. They ruined this child’s life. So sad

[@mementomori4840]

They truly did

[@sundragon1976]

@@mementomori4840 😢💕

[@karriemae5222]

He died at age 6 due to acquired hydrocephalus. This baby was neurologically impaired. This is even sicker.

[@mementomori4840]

@@karriemae5222 Supposed, but no one really knows his identity I thought?

[@karriemae5222]

@@mementomori4840 the articles I read said of course it's not 100% but very likely. Sadly, I don't think there's a way to know for sure at this point.

[@lifewithsummer1588]

That’s torture. To senselessly scare a child is abuse. The child can’t even comprehend why or what’s happening … so sad

[@Alorand]

"During the experiment the subject developed a phobia of Behavioral Psychologists"

[@ponponpatapon9670]

tbh the baby probably did LOL

[@Tempusverum]

You don’t say?

[@J_Stronsky]

Aren't phobia's an irrational fear? Seems pretty rational to me :P

[@Alorand]

@@J_Stronsky Yes, but wouldn't the hypothetical behavioral psychologist writing the report believe the fear to be 'irrational'?

[@somedude4805]

I have an aversion to behavioral psychologists as well, given that they robbed me of my childhood and gave me brain damage and a drug dependence starting when I was 5 years old.

[@sadie4479]

For the longest time we used to think babies couldn’t feel pain so they were operated on without anaesthesia. We have been so cruel to children :(

[@menschmenschson7504]

Jesus 😧

[@BrisbaneTeslaGuy]

Really ??

[@sadie4479]

@@BrisbaneTeslaGuy unfortunately yes

[@mjfan653]

@@BrisbaneTeslaGuy not much tbh really, most children would be just left to die, without any operation or anaesthesia... you can always just make a new baby, after all look at infant mortality rates before the 20th century, and you will have a grand old time

[@lisiastar8441]

I have heard that up until recently those that got a circumcision would also have it done without anesthesia and even some places today do it without it,so yeah kinda effed up if they think babies don't feel anything,it's just that as we grow up we tend to forget such things happened x-x

[@selenaurie]

Watson: Has a book on child psychological care Also Watson: Has two sons that attempted suicide under his parenting

[@robxholicfoxyfan8552]

Wow, it's sooo weird how trauma has negative consequences. I think I hate Watson.

[@Auxbrained]

@@robxholicfoxyfan8552 yeah psychologists scared people and they got scared!!🤯🤯

[@miameow4833]

Probably molested them for Science..Watson- " i introducing my wee wee into my child's X and played 1970s music each time for science" public- okay, then, if it's for science!"

[@jcurt22]

I’m gonna get that book so I know what not to do as a parent

[@MrMitchellw16]

I knew a kid in school who's mom wrote a book called "Raising the Perfect Christian Child".... What was her son like? Covered in catalogue tattoos, dropped out of high school and got into heroin. Overdosed numerous times and was a proud "flat liner". Wound up being involved in an armed robbery with a disabled person being the victim....

[@Lori-lp6uc]

Dr's used 10 orphans to study the condition of stuttering. Five were treated with kindness, patience and encouragement. The other five were constantly criticized, corrected and made to repeat words and speech. The five that were repeatedly corrected and made to speak specifically, developed a stutter. ALL FIVE. They grew up to sue the hospital and staff that used them for the study.

[@captainrelyk]

You know the name of the study? Sounds familiar

[@musamubarak1952]

@@captainrelykThe “Monster study”

[@jupiter1014]

Good To hear that

[@CB-hw7iu]

I believe they did not develop a stutter.

[@Alexwhywest]

@@CB-hw7iuwell that's your belief, but you'd be believing a lie.

[@bocahdongo7769]

*Baby's fear died down after several weeks Watson : *"Another one."*

[@davidhollenshead4892]

Or baby died of fear several weeks later...

[@Wildstar40]

Or baby was learning to hate cruel humans trying to scare him all the time.

[@rafaeloda]

@@davidhollenshead4892 Watson: "Another one."

[@thatonetroll1059]

*”Another one.”*

[@Sir.YeetusIII]

Another one

[@ripleyandweeds1288]

Psychologists discover emotional abuse exists, surprised to learn its bad.

[@wigger2499]

Science Thumpers don’t believe in anything unless it comes out Bill Nye’s mouth

[@Nana-wi4gi]

@Paul Martin How?

[@Nana-wi4gi]

@Paul Martin Probably because gender being a spectrum is a fact my guy.

[@Nana-wi4gi]

@Paul Martin Gender has always socially constructed. I'm sorry facts hurt your feelings :( The Earth's shape is not socially constructed. I bet you also believe sex is a binary too despite biologist stating multiple times it's bimodal.

[@Nana-wi4gi]

@Paul Martin The irony is that hinging on chromosomes is actually anti-science :(((((( “The view that the world’s population can be separated into a clearly defined dyadic unit of male and female is defunct; not only clinical observations, but molecular biology has established that ß3xual identity is on a continuum, with an enormous potential for variance”- *Untangling the Gordian Knot of Human ß3xexuality: What Is the Biologic Basis of Variations in Sexual Phenotype? Marianne J. Legato, MD, PhD(hon.c.), FACP*

[@sirishareddy7141]

It's clear that during those days, psychopaths successfully passed off as psychologists

[@cayturner3565]

Facts

[@vmw410]

The times were different back then, and human morals were not what they are now. But that doesn’t excuse what they did back then. What is important now, is that we’ve established these bounds, and that we know were they are.

[@lisaamerson1547]

They still do trust me I’ve met a few and guess what they all get paid by the state or colleges go figure.

[@adamwalkervfx]

They still are today. Look at all the Covid "experts".

[@freelanceart1019]

@@vmw410 human ethics and morality are a social construct according to Americna Elites and Modern popular Scientism.

[@Letcharlieplay2545]

Honestly, the thumb sucking being so soothing for Albert that it allowed him to override his fear is something I would find much more interesting to study. What exactly makes self-soothing behaviors self-soothing, and why or how do we humans develop them? (

[@Euph3mia]

I don’t study psychology, though have looked into it a little as I suffer with PTSD and other mental health conditions. I’d imagine self-soothing behaviours are the result of humans trying to have some sort of variable to control in an environment which they cannot. A repetitive and perhaps sometimes distracting behaviour to try and overcome the fear or feeling of constant instability. Could be wrong, though. This is mostly based off of my childhood experience and what I also still do as an adult. To escape the chaos and violence as a child, I’d “disconnect” and have to constantly have a distraction, like playing my nintendo DS. As an adult, I still find myself self-soothing with my Nintendo Switch and playing animal crossing. Strange I guess but it makes sense.

[@MrXiaoqiao]

I agree it's interesting! And some other animals have been found to do self soothing (elephants suck their trunks, some apes suck their thumbs as well!) I'm curious to know also why some children don't "grow out" of habits like thumb sucking or carrying around stuffed animals etc! Probably a result of trauma, but I would still be curious to learn more. And what separates self soothing from just normal habits.

[@Letcharlieplay2545]

@@MrXiaoqiao I wouldn't say not growing out of self-soothing behaviors is probably the result of trauma, but it definitely can be. Neurodivergent people, like myself, often partake in more self soothing behaviors (Referred to as stimming) than the average person even without trauma. I've always chalked this up to the result of our brains being wired/working differently than the 'average', which can apply to trauma survivors as well.

[@Letcharlieplay2545]

@@Euph3mia Interesting perspective! I'm someone whose autistic and has ADHD, among other neurodeveleopmental disabilities. When I do self soothing behaviors (Also known as stimming) I do it without thinking, or even noticing, most of the time, though for some I actively 'choose' to do it. For the ones I 'choose', the need to stim builds up inside me, like exhaustion or hunger, until I stop what I'm doing an bite my nails or get up to pace. Others I do constantly without thinking, like walking on my toes. Though, I will say I do agree with the need for distraction when a situation becomes too overwhelming (Or underwhelming in my case sometimes)- for example, after social interaction or when in cars (which are a sensory migraine for me) I need to stim with music and when I can't I'm very tense.

[@Euph3mia]

@@Letcharlieplay2545 Honestly, I more often than not do not realise in the present moment that I reach to do those things, but over time, I’ve kind of reached a valid conclusion as to why I enact these behaviours. I never used to understand at first why I’d get absorbed with video games or why I was so attached to my teddy bears, especially in high school, but thinking about it now, I do believe that’s all part of the self-soothing. I remember I felt safe when I had my own little bubble away from the chaos of my dad trying to murder my mum. Those little stuffed animals gave me a bit of comfort and I actually thought of them as real people. People I could give love to because I never had it to give to me. Not entirely, at least. I kind of took on a motherly role as a little girl. My mother was in danger, so I was frequently protecting her from my father. It’s sad and traumatic, and I still feel the constant need to repair social injustices, or to jump in and save people. But I’m learning now that some people don’t want to be saved, and it’s not always my responsibility to do it. Also, due to my PTSD, I often disassociate. I realise it more now, but at first, I never used to. I just completely done out, stare into space and I’m unable to do anything. It tends to happen when I’m very stressed about something.

[@followeroftheway8454]

I used to be frightened of dogs as a dog barked in my face while I was in my pushchair as a small child. Was frightened of dogs ever after. I used to have to cross the road if someone came along with a dog even if it was on a lead. Couldnt go into a house with a dog either. Years later my daughter wanted a dog as a pet. I decided I needed to get rid of my fear, so I bought a small puppy only 8 weeks old. As it was like a kitten in size I lost my fear for the dog grew with me and has become a great companion for me and my daughter.

[@linsy2827]

I'm so glad you overcame your fear. Our baby dogs are so special to us. Just like family 💜

[@hunchback_esquire]

Thata sucks arse! Dogs are radical!

[@unicorn1420]

Wow. Great

[@Krygan1268]

That's courage that many people strive to obtain

[@hunchback_esquire]

@@Krygan1268 very well said, kegan

[@smokahontus23R.Q.]

The child's name was William Albert Barger. He died in 2007. He apparently lived a long and happy life, although his niece was interviewed and claimed he wasn't very fond of animals. To the point that family pets had to be put in another room when he would visit. So thankfully this didn't mess him up too bad. Such a shameful thing to call "science".

[@Hessed3712]

I’m glad he seemed to have a full long life.

[@the4tierbridge]

Again, that is a theory. Unproven.

[@ishrendon6435]

@@the4tierbridge what theory?? He wasnt that badly damaged. Fact is you cant program babies theyre not blank slates. If you believe im the blank slate theory that is wrong amd outdated. Humans have genes and biological inheritance that shapes much of there early behavior

[@the4tierbridge]

@@ishrendon6435 No dummy, the theory is that Baby Albert was William A. Barger.

[@the4tierbridge]

@@oceangraybill7810 That’s not true either. It’s all speculation, but the records for Barger line up a million times better than that of Merritte. Your statement is clearly the one for likes.

[@7rhymes599]

Child: I like this thing. Science: *does awful things whenever thing is involved* Child: I don't like this thing... Science: We're geniuses.

[@georgepaulthagoat5311]

Wamted to lol but it's really fuckin sad

[@Extremezotako]

Lmao

[@shubhammeena1346]

They are smart

[@John.McMillan]

The real world: Doesn't know things until we test them The real world: Thinks babies cant remember anything later on and couldnt feel pain up until the late 80's. People born now adays acting like they can take the high ground because of hind sight: "Hue hue people so baaad"

[@badvibes2259]

@@John.McMillan bro what? The fact that you need someone to tell you it’s bad to abuse children even in the name of science concerns me. Then you blame it on this generation for having morels that stop them from tormenting a baby 💀

[@peachycream8674]

I love how no one thought of doing this to themselves instead. Of course it’s wrong and they know it and are afraid to go through it themselves but okay.

[@moist_spinach]

I mean, their knowledge of the experiment might be a confounding variable.

[@cherias.4069]

@@evanmagnus3746 --😳For REAL!?

[@cherias.4069]

@@evanmagnus3746 --*Why? To Gain exactly what? And did you avoid causing pain/fear?🤔Is pertinent to your future *Karma,meaning, that if you possess zero level to low end of the "MERCY" Spectrum, then , this is *ALL the "SAME" that is later on "delved out" unto your Self.✌😊

[@lunaromance2243]

You seriously can't tell that it would completely invalidate the experiment?

[@katiebevan3914]

it’s because babies have more elemental reactions i guess you’d word it. it would have invalidated the study because the adults may already have fears or would be expecting it, so there’s too many extraneous variables i guess

[@NootalieWalf]

Y’know, putting the words “Infant” and “Laboratory”together really ramps up the uncomfortablility of this whole thing....

[@NootalieWalf]

@@blue_whale_in_the_space Bro, with all due respect, when the FUCK did I say I’m okay with animal abuse?! How did you even extrapolate that from my silly ass comment? That’s like if I said “Ooh I know a good beef stew recipe” and you replied “So YoU sUpPoRt ThE tORtUrE aNd SlAuGhTeR oF iNnOcEnT aNiMaLs.?!” Disproportionate outrage to the comment man.

[@earthwormchewer170]

What about abortions?

[@blue_whale_in_the_space]

@@NootalieWalf sry.... actually I overreacted🙏. Actually, he was telling every time that he thinks this exp is unethical because a human child was used.( Emphasizing the human part) So, I was already feeling a little bit bitter. And then, I saw your comment and here, by infant, obviously you were also emphasizing on the human part only,(I thought so) so things turned a little bit too bad. I shouldn't have reacted like this, actually I am VERY STRONGLY against these stuffs, so, every time it gets the better of me. Again, sry🙏.

[@Ieatpaste23]

@@blue_whale_in_the_space The human part should be emphasized. Damn, I hope you didn't get that covid vaccine, because it was tested on animals. In fact don't take any medicine, it was all tested on animals. Better keep riding that high horse you're on.

[@blue_whale_in_the_space]

@@Ieatpaste23 yeah, I took the vaccine, and so do the medicines. It's a little bit ironical. Those people of N. Korea who flee from that place with the desire in their heart to do something to bring back peace , often themselves have to resort to violence in their migration and in following events. so that they can create the future they desire. Yeah, I am against animal exp and I do take the meds which have been tested on animals. But, believe me , if I can stay alive for another five decades, and so do you, may be you will be able to see me return all the pain that my very existence has caused to them with interest. Wish you a long life so that you can witness a better future🤗

[@bamboozledan]

The guy was probably just sadistic, using "experiments" as an excuse to do whatever he wanted.

[@shaokahnthecenturion9682]

I don’t think the word alibi is used in the context you’ve placed it in

[@bamboozledan]

@@shaokahnthecenturion9682 yup you're right.

[@muraismybby4617]

@@bamboozledan excuse I guess but words don't matter the man is crazy

[@GravityButterfly]

Considering what he did to his kids after; most definitely.

[@vfry7896]

You really never know. The possibilities are literally endless

[@coralinesgirlfriend]

they’re literally just giving him PTSD

[@bubblegumgun3292]

FOR SCIENCE!! thus justified so shut up lib

[@okflo]

@@bubblegumgun3292 are u being satirical?

[@mnsmackenzie]

he died young regardless

[@farkkkkk9035]

Probably not you don’t make long term memories until you’re around 4 years old

[@skzfeels1849]

@@farkkkkk9035 probably said by a fucking scientist somewhere.

[@donna.p]

I made my daughter scared of spiders completely by accident, there was one on her foot a panicked and then she cried, then I stupidly said to my partner, get it off her. Turned out to be a piece of crumpled cotton. Even after showing her that it was a piece of string she would scream after we showed it to her. So in effect I had given her a fear of string! My least proud parenting moment but it taught me an important lesson. I was much more careful of my behaviour after that.

[@Kelli-ru7yy]

Reminds me to keep calm when dealing with scary stuff. Ain't easy. My mo. Terrified us every time we got hurt. It taught me to do the opposite even though I am scared :( I don't like seeing my children hurt. But I gotta be the rock I guess. I go cry to God afterward in private.

[@whitehairvillain36]

I made my brother scared of chewing gum by putting it in his hair 😂

[@Herecomeskaren1]

​@@whitehairvillain36 sibling moment

[@whitehairvillain36]

@@Herecomeskaren1 absolutely 🤭🤭

[@melodyvalentine8779]

This hurts my heart, having two kids of my own, just the thought of them being subjected to things that scared them to tears is horrific.

[@gayvagina7353]

And apparently Albert May have had autism ._.

[@vmw410]

@@gayvagina7353 ._.

[@samanthacruz6135]

Me too I have two kids . And I would literally flip the hell out if I heard anyone did something like this to my kids. It makes me angry when people hurt children. Because I look at all children like my own. This pisses me way off. This is cruel, and evil to do to a child !!

[@mulliganstew72]

May as well move into a bubble.

[@Weird.Dreams]

@@samanthacruz6135 End of the day, life is meaningless and everyone dies. Yes, including your kids.

[@hondaaccord-hz4ry]

“When I scare this newborn, it show fear. SCIENCE!”

[@mimi_5875]

*kicks down door* NO SHIT, SHERLOCK, OF COURSE HE'D BE SCARED!

[@d.plaguethedocter8542]

Really? I wore a “Scary” mask to scare my family but they didn’t react, but when I took it off and they yelled, am I ugly or sum’?

[@hondaaccord-hz4ry]

@@d.plaguethedocter8542 😔

[@hondaaccord-hz4ry]

@@d.plaguethedocter8542 no, you’re beautiful no matter what.

[@OldBenKenobi2318]

What I gathered from this video is that Watson was trying to create a phobia that most people wouldn’t have. The example used in this video was a rabbit. They would show the baby the rabbit and also have banging sounds to scare the baby. So in the future when the baby sees a rabbit they will be scared of it because of the original experience.

[@lostbutfreesoul]

If the Infant had to be "Reconditioned" then the data was always useless: Not a good experiment if you have to re-do it over and over, till you get the expected result....

[@jimdavis8391]

In the chicken and egg world of psychiatry and psychology that is what is so often done. Truth is that most of it is....psychobabble :)

[@elpechos]

They weren't reconditioning to get an expected result. They were reconditioning to see how long each conditioning would last until it runs out, which is entirely reasonable. If it lasted 30 days the first time, 60 the second, and 200 the third, that would be quite interesting data, obviously.

[@michealwilliams1013]

@Gabriel Amaral ⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ i mean, he didnt say it wouldnt be inhumane, just said interesting, which is exactly why you also clicked this link. Weird thing to add

[@michealwilliams1013]

youre clearly missing the point of the experiment, reconditioning is an essential part of what they were trying to find, youre acting like psychological studies are the same as other scientific studies

[@paulandersbullecer3152]

@@michealwilliams1013 yeah. Psychological studies are just so different from scientific experiments.

[@BiggRippa]

Fear doesn't always come from abuse. I was terrified of dogs until I was 20 for some reason. That reason being, appearently while at a park with my family a dog came up to me and ate my ice cream. I don't remember this. But was terrified of dogs for basically no reason for years.

[@poppyseed799]

I mean, it’s possible that that’s just a total coincidence. Fear of dogs sort of runs in my family and we have no idea why. No traumatic events involving dogs, and yet this fear goes way back in our family. Even though we’ve HAD dogs and not been scared of them (in some cases) we are still scared of them in general. Sure, I’ve had bad experiences with dogs, but only because I was ALREADY scared of them, so being around them sucked for me. It didn’t stem from anywhere. Just born with the fear.

[@MikailMyres]

I have a phobia of ants, like where I will pass out if I see even a photo of one. I'll have reactions to things I may "think" are ants but are just a black or red spot and for most of my life refused to go outside during the summer time. It started because I watched a movie with a big ant in it as a kid and it just never was "treated" and go worse over time into my adult life. Aka my parents didn't think it was a big deal and yeah who wouldn't it's a 5 year old being scared of bugs, very common. I doubt anyone expected it to get this bad, Even now I go to exposure therapy for it. All because of some PG movie I can't even remember the name of. So yes I agree, it can be both.

[@berrymint6384]

It is trauma It is a trauma that happened in details There is ALWAYS a reason

[@heathereckert5049]

@@MikailMyreshoney I shrunk the kids? Ahahahaha

[@MikailMyres]

@@heathereckert5049 my worst nightmare LMAO

[@nikitavoigtlaender256]

This isn’t even morally questionable or controversial this is straight up abuse

[@justsomeguy7133]

Abuse is morally questionable and controversial tho

[@Weird.Dreams]

Not really.

[@mariaaabts1247]

@@justsomeguy7133 it really shouldn’t be… if you are a human without any disorders like being a psychopath then we should all agree that what they did was textbook abuse.

[@Goku_Kiyosaki]

@@justsomeguy7133 true ppl will call anything abuse, either way this was just sick tho

[@bufficliff8978]

Back then they didn't think babies felt pain just like how a few years ago people didn't think fetuses feel pain

[@ecampbell3759]

"you're lazy!" "ill show you!" * proceds to torture a child *

[@standinggibbon5934]

Sigma lesson #3 Torture children

[@AJxxxxxxxx]

Experiments have determined that children hate loud noises Scientists have also determined that people need water

[@imadoge5036]

It's not really torture, more like a Sleep Paralysis

[@samiam21001]

I somehow read this as soon as the video showed it lol sorry for the random reply, thought it was funny 😁

[@nikkistudio...]

I feel bad for laughing at this

[@beliasphyre3497]

I would've rated this a 9/10 on an unethical scale. Human experimentation on a subject that cannot consent is bad enough, but it is extra bad as the science is invalid. Only thing that would've been worse would have been permanent mutilation or termination of the human subject.

[@hwkki8323]

I’m my opinion would go slightly lower as I agree that this was unethical. I would say at 7 or 8 due to the fact that some experiments are a lot more worse. The damage to the infant’s health was large. This experiment shows some results p, albeit with cruel procedures. The experiment shows that how we should teach our children and show behaviour. We should keep our children as comfortable and safer, but we also have to show them a little bit fear to teach them to know danger.

[@raphaelambrosiuscosteau829]

I'd argue what termination on that age is preferable to permanent mutilation and psychological trauma, since infant still can not be considered a person at this point, it is more like an animal

[@hwkki8323]

@@raphaelambrosiuscosteau829 infants are still humans, there is no classification otheriwse

[@beliasphyre3497]

@@raphaelambrosiuscosteau829 I understand your perspective. The immediate child present is more akin to a slightly brain damaged chimp than an adult human. I even slightly agree termination may be preferable, but only in certain cases. If the degree of mutilation is sufficient enough, it may be more ethical to euthanize. I'm not so sure there is psychological damage sufficient enough to merit termination. The deciding factor for me is the potential of that child. It is much more metaphysical than the immediate present, but I'd rather error on the side of caution for the potential of utility in that regard. If that potential turns out to be wrong, you can always terminate at a later date. But all this is moot, because the experiment is unethical from the begining if it requires these considerations.

[@macaroll]

I remember reading about the entertainment huts involving children that they had in Japan during war times. Really creepy, but sad stuff.

[@sandrasnow3569]

The thought of any of my kids enduring this type of abuse in the name of science hurts my heart. People can be so evil.

[@PetiteLicorne]

Animals do too, when we have very good alternative methods now.

[@daftlikejack]

I like to imagine that Plainly Difficult and Barely Sociable are brothers from another motherland..

[@a1919akelbo]

With misinformed being the little bro and cgp grey being their cousin?

[@BenderTheBoiler]

Fascinating horrors the creepy cousin. Haha

[@Varia09_3]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way XD

[@zurbruggg]

Lemmino is the cool uncle

[@1TakoyakiStore]

Tbh I see Plainly Difficult more like Qxir and Barely Sociable as more like Down The Rabbit Hole.

[@friddevonfrankenstein]

Oh my, the baby is scared of the creepy fucking serial slaughtering santa mask. I wonder why that is xD

[@andrewjvaughan]

Boss: “ok, we need a new laughter Santa mask this season… the kids will love it. write that down.” Underpaid 1920s Secretary: “My S key is stuck, but I don’t want to get fired. I’m sure it will be fine…”

[@Lightblue2222]

Scientists are so smart. The average person wouldn't have known that. Jk. Some "science" experiments are unnecessary. But many "smart" people lack common sense.

[@Lightblue2222]

@super hessu I understand that, but maybe some things don't need the extra confirmation. This experiment was flawed anyhow. With no control group they were forced to make assumptions. But at the same time I think they did enough already.. I'm glad the mom pulled her kid out of there. Interesting how the guy's 2 sons attempted "and 1 succeeded" suicide. Might be un-related but it was mentioned. These lead scientists are strange people. They must enjoy it. Maybe they just want to get a book out and get paid. Or maybe they like getting away with criminal acts. Both with the rationality that it's for the good of science. Like the monkey dude who we find had a twisted torture obsession yet is noted for progressing science.

[@smartingamerica]

@@Lightblue2222 Quit calling this 'science' and those monsters 'scientists'. They didn't rationalize their activities for scientific motivations. They were psychopaths who camouflaged their jollies behind a fake front of intellectual inquiry. Having said that, the ACADEMIC community of the time is just as much at fault for not calling them out on it.

[@Lightblue2222]

@@smartingamerica that's what I was trying to say. I was just saying it too nicely

[@waitwhat260]

I was terrified when I learned about this in AP pyschology. It was just abuse of a child justified by "science"

[@shatteredscry]

Not to sound cliche, but People do that with religion and politics too.

[@firstnamelastname3173]

@@shatteredscry you must be a very fun person

[@shatteredscry]

@@firstnamelastname3173 I don’t know how to take this comment as far as perspective goes, but in every direction it’s probably a ‘yes, yes I am’

[@KurouShiro6000]

Can't say it was justified, and I don't think scientists back then was too shy to remark how inhumane their experiments was back in the day, the truth simply is that science is not to be placed alongside morals, nor should be religion, or politics, for none of them was about "is this morally right or wrong?" and is more of "will this knowledge become beneficial for the future?", as immoral as this experiment was, it may be the only few ways we would've realized what child abuse is to begin with.

[@Cortalpsychmajor]

If you think this is bad, you should look into John Money, that shit is horrifying and demonstrably evil. Most of his "patients" killed themselves.

[@Kyoobur9000]

“Okay, so I got the baby to fear the rat for a while, but then he stopped reacting.” “Neat! We determined we can transfer phobias but it’s only temporary. So I guess the experiment is over, right?” “…” “The experiment _is_ over, right…?”

[@itz.yukiix]

“Another one”

[@cosmicreef5858]

It shouldn't be started you psycho? You should NOT make someone innocent get fear on purpose

[@SamsarasArt]

Watson: *intentionally terrifies a baby hoping to create phobias* John Hopkins University: this is fine. Also Watson: *has an affair* Also John Hopkins University: this is disgusting and appalling! You're fired! I seriously question the moral compasses of all involved. Well except for the baby, he was the victim of all this shit.

[@dutchray8880]

It is questionable that the affair was the sole reason for Watson's dismissal. After all, he was a star in his time and a valuable asset to the university. His first wife's brother had powerful political connections, and that more likely played a bigger part. Extramarital affairs and divorces were often huge scandals in the 1920s, but probably this wasn't enough for Watson's downfall. The university may have been pressured by other factors.

[@StevieMcKenna10]

Hm but then they wanna go and steal cells knowing the lady was illiterate

[@rhumandlove393]

Man research scientists are or I should should say can be extremely evil. See the most recent and famous a pain experiments on little dogs.... Done by the fauchi crowd

[@clardergrarder4991]

You remember the final monologue of kurtz in apocalypse now?

[@pugdad2555]

@@rhumandlove393 those Europeans and their descendants.

[@sassybatchz]

Aside from the damage this likely did to Albert, it's really upsetting to see how some of the animals were treated as well. Seeing the monkey with the leash tied around its stomach made me feel so sad for it. This whole experiment only involved helpless creatures that have no way of consenting.

[@anevilstripper6095]

Ikr The dog at 10:23 looks sad and distressed, the videos were hard to watch

[@freedombro]

Animals can't consent lol

[@mischanandlerbong]

finally someone noticing the animal abuse factor on this experiment 😢

[@poppyfield1619]

My stomach was in knots watching this. That poor baby and the animals were forced into the situations. Really distressing.

[@averageofficechair]

ikr, the monkey tied up like that was heartbreaking

[@cryamistellimek9184]

You can stop calling it morally questionable and call it evil.

[@CreeketsCreek]

I mean, all they did was scare an infant, they didnt really traumatize it for life or hurt it in any way. So its more on the side of kinda-fucked-up Like, sure you can do it, but _why_

[@angelicasysnila5476]

@@CreeketsCreek I hope you are being sarcastic cuz whatever they did even for few days and not lifetime is also fked up, those experiments didn't have to last for years to be deemed as fked up. Its just by chance the mom took the baby away, otherwise they had the intentions of doing this thing to this child for god knows how many years. So basically their intentions were evil and this is pure evil

[@CreeketsCreek]

@@angelicasysnila5476 true enough. Im simply saying that i would rather label killing multiple baby monkeys evil over scaring a toddler for a few days And it lowkey upsets me that those baby monkey experiments that were far more brutal have been labelled lower on the evil scale simply because here the victim is human. Sure, he's human, but he's also endured far less horrible abuse than those animals have

[@mrnubishly]

"Morally questionable" could pertain it to be being very gray between BAD and GOOD The prospect of knowledge = good Scaring child = bad????

[@cryamistellimek9184]

@@mrnubishly Cool we could cure cancer if we drag some kids out of their homes and cut them apart while they are alive. What would you consider that? Because intention of what you want to gain does not make the actions you do ok on any level.

[@thefriendlyschizo]

As a thumb sucker kid, it really does help in stressful situations and trauma. I'm so glad she pulled him out of that experiment before they messed his brain up!

[@landroveraddict2457]

Torturing a baby is OK but having an affair, sack the man. Really?

[@planescaped]

It was the early 1900's. Having an affair was often seen as more heinous than rape.

[@Destilight]

Adultery back in the day was a big no no. Specially for public image.

[@landroveraddict2457]

@@mcflurry534 Very good I see what you did there. 🤣

[@kalieclarkxx]

as he was describing his professional career, i literally asked myself out loud, “who keeps putting this guy in charge?”

[@Ayyem93]

Adultery breaks one of the Ten. Not hard to understand.

[@anodosarcade7355]

"when shown the rat he begin to cry" wow, children have functioning brains and memory? Finally, some evidence!

[@roleat]

Doctors did surgery on newborns without analgesics because they didnt think the pain sensors were fully developed. This happened up until the 1990s.

[@TheUhaya]

It’s still a controversial “opinion”, especially in abuse cases

[@McSnezzly]

Bruh there’s parents out there that still don’t get it. They’re also the ones talking about “the good old days” when you could be allowed to “discipline” your children

[@freelanceart1019]

@@McSnezzly some parents in East Asian countries like communist vietnam, think beating your kids into submission makes them law abidding citizens.

[@fawnieee]

@@freelanceart1019 you clearly have no concept about what communism is and are so completely brainwashed that you blurt it out at everything you dislike. Typical boomer.

[@EaglesQuestions]

Even if the child was reacting with fear, how can we say the it was fear of the rat, specifically, instead of fear of the evil man making scary sounds every time certain items are visible?

[@Tempusverum]

I know. And not to mention the fact he was the only test subject. The whole “study” was a farce to satisfy some sick desire

[@Allanfeijoada]

'Cause he was only showing signs of fear in front of the rat stimullus, and other "fluffy" things stimulli, and not when only exposed to the experimenter?

[@leannezezeski-sass2773]

@@Allanfeijoada yeah because he would only make the noises when those things were brought out, the question should be did he react this way to them even when he wasn't in the test room with the doctor

[@unlimitedpower1385]

So its clear that the study was done pretty badly. Shall we try it again but this time properly?

[@cheeyaya]

That's the actual point of the experiment. Associating fearful stimuli to an otherwise neutral stimuli was the point they're trying to test, and for how long the fear will be conditioned to the subject, and whether it will develop into a phobia or not. So whether the actual fear came from the loud banging sound or the experimenter, the fear is still associated with the otherwise neutral stimuli, which then provokes a reaction to the subject when stimulated.

[@qanh96]

I'm pretty sure all Psych students learned about this experiment at some point in their career. I remember watching this as a first-year thinking "how fascinating this is". 8 years later, having become a therapist and had ethical guidelines drilled into my mind, I rewatched this and only felt disappointed, of the fact that modern Psychology actually benefited from this experiment. At the cost of being unethical in the past.

[@KiKiJahDore]

I accidentally scared my daughter with a mannequin head I had while in cosmetology school when she was a baby… now she’s 11 and still terrified of bald heads.

[@freedombro]

Monks are bald, its not a big deal

[@Dilay-g1b]

i dont know if i should laugh or cry

[@KiKiJahDore]

@@Dilay-g1b Imagine how I feel. I can’t date bald head dudes LOL

[@AmbiCahira]

Counter conditioning would do wonders but it might be difficult to do without professional help. But basically it would blur the line by for example looking at really cute bald babies with cute bows and such (cute = low threat), and also see something that triggers empathy or that is really cool like shaolin monks doing really cool things but it would have to progress very slowly and gently since setbacks are awful. There's so many bald heads in this world that it's a fear or phobia that is very hard to just live with without addressing but it can be healed. I've healed several of my fears and phobias too. One part of my arachnophobia was to watch KZbin videos of passionate people talking about pet spiders because hearing their affection and passion for the spiders helped tell my brain that they aren't as dangerous as my brain thought them to be. Blurring the lines of where the phobia starts truly helped a lot.

[@KiKiJahDore]

@@AmbiCahira wow! I really liked that answer. Thank you for that insight. Ive never thought about implementing that in to curing her fears. Also the guy I’m talking to (now) is bald haha and he’s very nice.

[@wonderland4515]

As a psychology student, learning about the past and how it worked is honestly terrifying. Psychology was probably the most unethical and immoral sciences when it came to experiments and testing back in the day

[@Sarablueunicorn]

Psychology a science? LOL you should check yourself for delusions.

[@wonderland4515]

@@Sarablueunicorn yes it’s a pseudoscience

[@terkeyjah8150]

@ferret what do you mean by experimented ?

[@Progress234]

@@Sarablueunicorn stay mad

[@hudini6383]

@@Sarablueunicorn One of our issue’s and debates for our psychology course is whether Psychology is a science, quite a lot of evidence proves it os

[@bakedbeings]

After hearing the last bit about Watson's own children, I reckon you may as well have stuck with the Plainly Difficult Disaster Scale.

[@DecoyJayc]

Lol oof

[@Warrior_Culture]

I think the first most glaring issue is the misuse of the word "phobia". A phobia is defined as "an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something." Even if this experiment had run it's course and Albert had developed a fear of something, it would not be an extreme fear nor would it be an irrational one. An extreme fear is typically one that a person is entirely unwilling to confront, causes panic attacks, and triggers "fight or flight" instincts among other physical reactions. And it isn't irrational because the fear can be linked to a cause and something the subject is trying to protect themselves from, in proportion to the perceived threat. Most phobias elicit a reaction that is disproportional to the triggering item. It's 2022 and I often see people talk about "phobias" and PTSD and being "traumatized" by totally mundane events, sometimes because they don't understand the terms and sometimes because they're trying to be funny. I think it's pretty unhealthy because it causes a misunderstanding of the actual issues, their seriousness, and a general disregard for people truly traumatized or phobic of something.

[@stephanieheadley6567]

❤

[@meganbessenbacher7107]

Precisely! I have ptsd from being strangled to death but living. Which, aside from brain damage, caused OCD and germaphobia, The OCD and germaphobia are my minds reactions to trauma. Of course, germs are real and can be dangerous, but because my fear is irrational I might clean my toilet 10 times a day but then completely neglect to wipe the lever. I will sit at home in medical emergency because I feel like the hospital is "dangerous" This baby was just abused

[@jessJBIRD1981]

I have agoraphobia and PTSD and major depression from recurring (all forms)abuse as a child. (Female family member). I remembered once I had a baby in my 20's. However, I was always self destructive.

[@meganbessenbacher7107]

@jessJBIRD1981 that is so common and valid! Especially for people who didn't feel security as children, it's much better to destroy our own happiness than to have it taken or even worse, have it leave us. It is also a way we try to assert control in lives where we have been violated, abused and never felt in control of our own lives or even our bodies! You are worthy, valuable, and loved! I will pray you know that soon and until then, there are people around you who do. ❤️‍🩹

[@jessJBIRD1981]

@@meganbessenbacher7107 thank you. When someone else understands, or I guess I feel understood. It's almost like a huge weight is lifted. It's a good feeling to have. Have a wonderful weekend 💗

[@Evergreen1400]

This is so messed up. This was basically just torturing children

[@shamancredible8632]

Tell that to your grandma

[@Evergreen1400]

@@shamancredible8632. She’s dead

[@smartingamerica]

Agreed. How 'scientific' can it possibly be to pretend to call such abuse an 'experiment' when there wasn't the slightest degree of control or systematic procedure employed? This had nothing to do with science. Those two monsters reveled in inflicting alarm, psychological distress and mental trauma on a defenseless toddler behind the cloak of inquiry - something that is itself as morally reprehensible as the psychological abuse of a child is ethically wrong. And the academic community was too cowardly to call them out on it, so they are culpable as well. There can be no excuse for such abomination and atrocity in ANY age.

[@Evergreen1400]

@@smartingamerica. Yeah I agree. As soon as the narrator said there was no control subject I had to just shake my head because that means this “experiment” was pretty much just the torture of 1 child. I’m glad there weren’t more “test subjects” but the fact that there was only 1 made this “experiment” absolutely useless

[@bagman1984]

FOR SCIENCE

[@midnightkitty8172]

That child, when they grew up, must have been afraid of almost everything.

[@selenauwu3840]

he died at 6 years old from hydrocephalus

[@lindsymitchell8265]

Allegedly

[@vaeonyoass]

@@selenauwu3840 gonna go out in a limb and assume you didn’t finish the video

[@selenauwu3840]

@@vaeonyoass look it up

[@maiaraandrade1952]

Not really.

[@thavius_kreeg2238]

this is honestly one of the dumbest experiments i’ve ever heard of, the fact that they couldn’t realize that fears are unique based on experiences absolutely baffles me.

[@diegoflores3422]

not really, to be fair we thought that slavery was cool like two centuries ago. Bad things need to happen in order for us to learn about them. we also thought that babies couldnt feel pain up until the 1980's, so of course they didnt know about stuff they didnt study. this was the start of researching psychology, and look at how far we've come

[@charlesboudreau5350]

I'd argue some fears seem to be primal and and not fully justified by personal experience. Very few people have been bit or otherwise harmed by spiders, yet most people are instinctively repelled or uncomfortable by their close proximity. But that study wasn't about that, so it doesn't change a thing. I agree it's pretty dumb. "Ok so conditioning is a thing. Do you think we can condition a fear or distress response?" Derp. Pretty much PTSD. I'd admitthat, had the study been ethical and suitably established (with control groups and perhaps, a milder negative association being used), I think it could've been interesting to find concrete answers in the line of inquiry relating to the lasting effects. Part of the unethical nature is that the longer term effects of those studies are not really well documented and understood (or at least, weren't at the time). But one of the study's goals was to answer that, which would've been interesting and maybe even useful to help trauma victims in their recovery process. Maybe. The experiment itself was still pretty dumb and didn't really reveal anything you couldn't have observed outside of a lab already.

[@father8729]

@@diegoflores3422 who is ‘we’ LMAOOO

[@MementoMoriGrizzly]

Funny that you can say "empirical evidence and observation is enough proof" for cases like these but if someone uses it nowadays people will ask for a peer reviewed study with a sample size of 1 billion and confidence interval of 99%, just to say that the sky is blue.

[@ishrendon6435]

@@diegoflores3422 very true i also remember humans used to think animals couldnt have emotional such as fear or grief . That was quickly dismantled decades ago and we now no longer see them as robots

[@StriderStryker]

Franklin D. Roosevelt: _“The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”_ John B. Watson: *uses a baby as a test subject in an experiment*

[@brandonsmith5151]

Honestly, when I read up on this in my intro to psych course, this was the one of the most useless experiments I've ever seen.

[@sunshinelil1966]

yeah, its so stupid

[@maiaraandrade1952]

Why useless? You learned that we need ethics with our science after all.

[@ryuuthefrog3775]

@@maiaraandrade1952 That's true. You learn from horrible mistakes and this experiment is no exception.

[@AleTitan]

@@maiaraandrade1952 there dozens of other experiments that taught that same lesson

[@maggotmeatballz2692]

Oh this was only what they told us they did, the reality is probably torture and deprivation beyond imagination. Just need to google "Berlin authorities intentionally placed orphans in the care of pedophiles for 30 years" this was another brilliant psychologist's idea... then go search for Kincora boy's home in Ireland, we're ruled by a sadistic satan worshipping cult who acts globally.

[@MusiicRoolz]

"infant" and "laboratory" are not two words that sound good together

[@oliveryt7168]

Like "ice" and "cream"... At First you think they dont. But you know they do.

[@dontcomply5008]

I own an infant laboratory.

[@dontcomply5008]

@@hexational105 perhaps

[@delfino8190]

"What's your job?" Oh I traumatize babies daily.

[@protogeninc.2222]

So clowns?

[@br4ttycl0wn]

@@protogeninc.2222 Nope, we make kids happy!

[@protogeninc.2222]

@@br4ttycl0wn John Wayne Gacey and Pennywise would like to have words with you. XD

[@br4ttycl0wn]

@@protogeninc.2222 U h - *Some clowns make kids happy*

[@geraldcleveland6207]

@@protogeninc.2222 technically speaking pennywise isn’t really a clown.

[@Tokyoprism]

Dude I’m 5 minutes into this video & still waiting to hear about the experiment I clicked on the video for. I dont need to know what Watson ate for breakfast on June 15th

[@Muswell]

"To induce FEAR, some of the subjects were placed in a dark room or in a room on their own. Needless to say they became distressed". . It's really amazing what these guys discover. (sarcasm)

[@Muswell]

@@222quiet Yes, sarcasm.

[@Rivər]

@Cassandra They were doing it for fun at this point. It's like giving a baby a toy then snatching it away just as they start enjoying it to see if it'll make them cry. Obviously the baby is going to cry so why wouldn't it be afraid to be all alone in a dark room?! This is a form of entertainment for them I tell ya.

[@suchabadkitty1293]

@ASH 🦄 Aestheticz Or just plain sociopathic.

[@suchabadkitty1293]

@Cassandra Right? Next we'll find out if fire is hot! 👍🏽

[@cheezbiscuit4140]

hey my dad didn't think constant tantrums and screaming would make me not want to be around him as opposed to a better christian child so sometimes we need experiments of basic shit written down to drive home just how stupid some people can be.

[@lg8405]

I dont think he was scared of the items as much as it was the scary people fucking with him

[@ImaPizzaK]

Phrasing

[@sikerslalatm3147]

Umm..I don’t think you said it right

[@trevally6383]

Wow! By the people scaring him he associates the objects with what scares him, therefore the objects end up scaring him because of the association with the "scary people". Did this video go entirely over your head?

[@yourkurae2809]

The person who commented this said it right, y'all just kinds fucked up in the head

[@gh0rochi363]

@@yourkurae2809 for real.

[@8bitmermaid]

Senior psychology student here. The widely unknown potential horror of this story is how Watson planned to recondition Albert. Molestation in front of the triggering objects/animals to associate them with pleasure instead of fear. He was a completely evil man.

[@westofthewicky2960]

Wow I never knew that 😢 Do you know what became of baby Albert after these “conditioning experiments “?

[@devyntratz]

@@westofthewicky2960 I don't think anyone knows for sure.

[@purecaffine5796]

@@devyntratz he died in 2007 with a family, kids, grandkids, pretty happy, js had an unconditional fear for animals, which wasn't really life changing or even rlly staggering at all, his family did have to put their animals in a different room when he came over but that's about it

[@devyntratz]

@@purecaffine5796 Woah really? That's kind of relieving in a way. Not the fear of animals, but the fact that he had a decent life after this took place. Where did you find the info from? I couldn't find it

[@purecaffine5796]

@@devyntratz no where, it was completely made up, alber, or Douglas was acc killed at the age of 6 due to a build up of fluid inside his head, and his mother only ever received a dollar for his work... Ig relief ruined

[@huhimhere170]

Imagine this being your legacy, "scientific" torture on a 9-month-old baby. Horrific.

[@bchin4005]

Ahhh, the good old days when a psychopath could simply be a doctor and "legitimately" indulge their predilections

[@kateruterbories2692]

Oh, I think, plenty of them still do.....

[@maiaraandrade1952]

The good old days..?

[@imtoolazytomakeupaname]

@@maiaraandrade1952 its sarcasm

[@LM-hb6yn]

As much as things change, they remain the same.

[@bigg4874]

You think this doesn’t still happen

[@jsnsk101]

Psychologist: this is how to raise kids. Psychologists kids: Goodbye cruel world. I actually knew a girl (30 something) whos dad was a psychologist. She was nuttier than a fruit cake.

[@LordHonkInc]

Same, my uncle is a child psychiatrist and all five of my cousins are, frankly, fucked up. Doesn't help that he was found criminally culpable for a bunch of unethical interrogations of children. Fucking oops I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@vellocet2438]

My mum is a psych. Growing up was very hard. I couldn't reconcile the fact she had been trained specifically in child psychology at the time and the way she treated my dad, sister and myself. The issue with the profession is that you don't simply end your work day and take off your uniform, as if you were a pilot or fireman or something. It sticks with you and tends to infiltrate your home life in every facet. My parents divorced when I was 13 and I chose to live solely with my father. So did my sister. We could no longer handle the abuse at that time. I'm now 24, and I have reconnected with my mother. We have tried to work on the issues that drove us apart. And to her credit she has changed and made an effort to see how her actions caused such pain and suffering. And for my part I have aplogised for abandoning my own mum. Now I'm an adult, I am able to stand up for myself and tell her when she is crossing a line. But there are still things in the past that will never truly heal. Unfortunately my sister hasn't been able to recover what was lost, and that makes me deeply sad. But there is hope. I believe people can change for he better. My advice to any prospective psychologist, is to try to leave your work behind at the end of the day. (Please note: no two psychologist are the same. My experience is totally anecdotal and I hold no grudge against the profession)

[@leatcanned]

@@vellocet2438 Yo your sister has nothing to be apologitic for, your mother however Should be forced to face the fact she drove her family apart, in a bid for control masked as understanding.

[@vellocet2438]

@@leatcanned thank you, that means quite a bit to me.

[@lovecraftscat5044]

A 30 something female is a woman, not a girl.

[@Theggman83]

"scaring kids is unethical" Every parent on Halloween:.....

[@klutzspecter3470]

Hollywood: First time?

[@DBT1007]

Every people that want to amuse baby & toddler be like... Really tho.. Even i, against that kind of act since my childhood. I aware of that thing is weird since maybe when i was in elementary school. It's dumb. Some even bounce the baby up and down to "amuse" them. Yes, sometimes they laugh, but how about their fragile organs? And mental. Dumb adults... They have adult body but their mental still be like.. highschool kids mentality. Can't think big and further. Just talk n act normally to baby, come on. They're also human like you, adults! They're not pet or some alien creature thing. Some even lie to their kids with some scary stories. Im the victim btw. I mean... i think every kids are the victim. Maybe... Like for example, dont get closer to a tree, go home before the dawn time, and stuff like that. Even tho there is nothing on that spot and at that time. They scare the children so their children will avoid these stuff. For their safety. But at what cost? They develop their fear there. Fear to nonlogic thing. To ghost & monster.

[@camwoods6969]

Uhh... i watched horror movies with my mom, always scared as fuck but the only way be bonded i guess I had nightmares for months and was scared of everything, (watched that tv show 1000 ways to die and Investigation Discovery a lot). Results:i like horror movies now, give me an odd comfort for some reason. I am not scared anymore, well of course i feel like a murderer may just pop out the dark at any moment but that wouldn't be that bad if it's quick death :D (i'd thank him)

[@maiaraandrade1952]

@@DBT1007 Babies are more durable than what we think. My mother, father, aunts etc, wouldn't have survived till adulthood if they were fragile as porcelain.

[@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164]

There's a difference in deliberately scaring a child just to scare them vs facing ones fears.

[@Bumblebeerocks23]

I took a psychology class in 2018 and I distinctly remember my professor teaching to us about this experiment. I also distinctly remember they had inadvertently trained the baby to have fetishes too or something along those lines. Like when they noticed him sucking his thumb to help him calm down, I remember reading that they sexually exploited him to make him calm down or something.

[@exposedbitch1148]

Omg, what do you mean exploited him?

[@justanothermortal1373]

Ew what. That's so disgusting 😟🤢

[@ShowNoLove222]

Uhm mm tf 🤢🤮

[@vladivanov5500]

Being a degenerate is a prerequisite to being a psychologist. Just after being a moron, of course.

[@Swavvvv]

Wtf

[@felwinterslie8223]

"Can you condition a fear in a human test subject?" Yes, it's called trauma

[@LazyWitch11]

Welcome to our childhood

[@baronvonbatz05]

More like child, abuse, and PTSD

[@ZephlarNation]

Gen z got the easiest life of all time screaming MUH TRAUMA GIMME MORE PILLS!!

[@Mackerel.Lips-the_Drunkard]

​@@ZephlarNation ^ Here is a man who has zero trouble getting barefoot at the end of the day

[@StuartHenry-fg1bh]

That's right this was the first study to prove it.

[@gabrielbennett5162]

As a father of 3, this is absolutely appalling! I would NEVER allow someone to do that to one of my babies. 😠

[@kitkatboard]

Pavlov : If i ring a bell and give food to a dog, he'll eventually start drooling when he hears a bell ! Watson : That's pretty cool but what if I traumatized a baby instead ?

[@lexyshannon9428]

This is fucking killing me

[@westofthewicky2960]

@@lexyshannon9428😂😂

[@justanothermortal1373]

Pavlov is like a father realising that his child is kind of a psychopath

[@marisahels]

"infant laboratory" just doesn't really sound right....

[@davidmontgomery7120]

I don’t care what we learned. You never mess with kids that’s pure evil.

[@jennyrealight1860]

Exactly. If that's a way learning, I rather stay in the dark.

[@darlenelawson1255]

These babies are not able to give consent, they should have gone to jail. Horrible things in the old days and still horrible things are happening for science...

[@DilipKrJha-yb6nv]

@@jennyrealight1860 it's not about you lol

[@DilipKrJha-yb6nv]

@@darlenelawson1255 still??? Lol which era you living in

[@jennyrealight1860]

@@DilipKrJha-yb6nv You make no sense.

[@nathandouvier1976]

Sherlock comes back from vacation: John why is there a horrified baby in the other room?

[@benedictaannabel7166]

Sherlock might of asked if watson was mentally ok

[@AbrahamSamma]

There was very little in terms of beneficence for the subject and a great deal in terms of potential harm. Add on top of all that the lack of control and the act of inflicting all of this on just one child with no real pay off for other children. What a mess of a study.

[@robc4191]

But would a couple lollipops really have made it any better?

[@samuraijackoff5354]

@@robc4191 add it with a baseball card and you got a deal.

[@cookie_pixel]

huh, I'm a psychology college student and Watson was presented to us as a very important figure. could have never guessed that's how his career ended and fell, wow

[@luckdragon88]

Albert was a child who rarely cried and showed hardly any reaction to the base stimuli? It sounds like this kid wasn't neuro-typical which makes this abuse even sadder..

[@SepticShockAKAVin]

EXACTLY!

[@theeemadimargarita]

This is basically just "Man's discovery of trauma but they already knew about trauma being a thing, so wtf were they thinking".

[@TanushAdithiyaBEC]

WHo r u? Why do you make somuch sense?

[@thatdude3977]

They wanna weaponize it

[@maddieb4459]

The flashbacks to AP psych are strong... Love the content, dude! Having more context for these unethical experiments or industrial disasters is super helpful and fascinating. Huge huge thanks!

[@PlainlyDifficult]

Thank you!

[@robc4191]

@@PlainlyDifficult have you considered Dr Cotton of tge Trenton State Psych Hospital? He thought mental illness came from tooth infections so he set out removing all the teeth from all the patients in the hospital. Spoiler: it didn't work.

[@gray9606]

@@robc4191 That is… mortifying

[@alexburt6995]

I now want two things - a time machine and a noose.

[@jonnywatts2970]

To be fair that "father Christmas" mask looked terrifying!

[@gypsywoman9140]

Right?!? Are they sure it wasn't a Satan mask?

[@BillCipherandFreddyKreugerFan]

Ikr

[@oliveryt7168]

@@gypsywoman9140 Nobody knows how "Satan" would Look Like if He Existed. Fun fact: There is No "Satan". Have a nice day.

[@Mr110074]

I feel like it’s all masks back then were just shitty looking.

[@TheCoolerDrilis]

@@oliveryt7168 I mean, regardless of whether or not that's how he'd actually look, the "red man with horns and goat legs" is a pretty popular image. Are you really the type of person who needs to insert his atheism everywhere he goes? "Oh no, someone mentioned a religious figure, I must inform this person that such things do not exist despite the person not even implying they believe in such things!"

[@SadisticSenpai61]

8:00 Well, if he was first introduced to these things (assuming he had never encountered any of them before) as depicted in the video, then it's not surprising that he didn't really have much of a reaction and certainly not a negative reaction. He's being held by someone. Infants rely heavily on adults around them for cues as to whether or not they should be afraid or happy. The woman holding him seems mostly disinterested in everything going on, and Albert picked up on that. If she had reacted by tightening her grip, pulling away, or making an alarmed noise, he would have instantly picked up on that and communicated distress. If she laughed, relaxed her grip, and/or encouraged him to interact with whatever he was presented with, he would have reacted similarly. Children are extremely perceptive and are little sponges. They pick up all kinds of stuff that we never even notice. And they're especially good at reading body language.

[@liverbirdxoxo1984]

Exactly... I think a lot of phobias are learnt... I know I don't like spiders because my mum would run around like a lunatic screaming which scared me, I associated the spider as something to fear...

[@vipersuphere]

that’s the point of the experiment

[@Extremezotako]

"albert was crying when the loud sound was made" No shit, Sherlock babies hate loud noises

[@domenickalexander9547]

If that’s true, then why do babies make so much loud noise?

[@groggmayles8657]

Well that probably wasn't well known in 1919, Seeing as many people thought babies couldn't even feel pain until the 1970's and 1980's. Hell, A lot of people even thought that babies could only feel pain once they reached age 1 in the 1990's

[@keertanavinod]

@@domenickalexander9547 Idk, ask your baby self

[@deadwooddivinity6972]

@@groggmayles8657 shit 1999 to be exact , wow that’s crazy

[@jetghoul4182]

@@domenickalexander9547 It's because crying is their only mode of communication as infants. When a child grows, their modes of communication grows along with them hence why most children develop the ability to speak at the ages 2-5.

[@greglinski2208]

When my son was about 11 years old he entered a Jaycee Relay Race. He’d never ran track before and didn’t know everybody wore shorts. He came in jeans, to everyone’s amusement. He ran the last leg for his team - and came away the fastest runner of the day, and made up considerable distance to win. This video made me think of that day. How I wish I had been able to see it, instead of only hear and read about it. I was a single mom and had to work. My son was an amazing athlete. ❤️

[@nahboi483]

I thought this was gunna be a weird one, like, “Man child has imprinted on but was constantly wearing a Skull Mask, takes mask off after months.” Or some shit. Instead they just emotionally scar a child and high-five when the kid is terrified to exist.

[@rabbit9905]

I think there was an experiment done like that, where they constantly wore a scary mask but were doing fun and friendly things with the child

[@TheCoolerDrilis]

@@rabbit9905 Did you ever find out if that actually happened?

[@snifferrr]

@@rabbit9905 i remember there was a person who only wore one of those big horse masks around their baby for months to see how they'd react to it being off but it wasn't an experiment

[@mannbeissthund420]

What a coincidence! In pedagogy class we read about this experiment, but only for scientific purpose. In our book this was portrayed as completely normal, so no one was really upset about it I was one of the only students that had a huge issue with this and got mad about it It's crazy how much the way you phrase something changes your mind about it

[@GlennDavey]

Anyone who has experience with weird and neglectful daily childhood trauma should possibly skip this one. Seriously.

[@UnkownWonders]

But it is on its own way interesting how messed up it is like the Russian sleep experiment. So yeah still gonna watch it even tho I got that with all that you listed

[@UnkownWonders]

@@joe-xk8nl it is real you dunce

[@majidnobles]

So my question is... Why did the parents allow this to happen to their child?! The parents are as liable as the scientists

[@celty5858]

Probably desperate for money. Still, messed up.

[@merlinthelizard1746]

the mother didnt knew, not sure about the father, incase u didnt read: 7:13

[@FacebookQueen]

Where did she think her baby was during these experiments?

[@PeytonianYT]

According to some sources the mother was forced into it, and other sources say she didn't know

[@perciusmandate]

First off, as is obvious, this experiment is an ethical nightmare and should have never happened. Second: there are so many variables left unconsidered that the test is basically useless. Off the top of my head; they never stopped to consider that carrying out all these tests in the same environment might condition a fear of the environment itself. What if, after being exposed to so many scary tests, the testing room itself became a conditioned fear response for the child?

[@maiaraandrade1952]

Then, the baby would cry as soon as he saw the door.

[@mulliganstew72]

Could’ve just had to fart.

[@notsafef0rlife]

I have ptsd from several near death experiences. It's hard for me to even go on car rides of swim. I can't even imagine how it would feel to be afraid of Santa Claus. Seeing everyone embrace this man you fear, and being completely alone with that fear

[@mermaid_at_heart213]

That would be awful. Imagine being afraid of anything fluffy, alive or inanimate. I have had several bad experiences involving cars, myself. I still have fear issues because of them and never got my license because I have panic attacks when I get behind the wheel. A lot of my issues stem from pain and physical trauma.

[@testerwulf3357]

My mother got her fear of heights from a near death experience..people pushed her while she standing on a cliff (they thought it was funny), she nearly fell, and ever since she's terrified of heights.

[@justaperson3807]

@@testerwulf3357 wtf who'd think that's funny???

[@YunuSaionji91]

Perhaps i lack the fear of death as i accept it as what it is . If the time comes , it comes . With my near death experience from car accident , it never stop me from crossing the road . I just learned to be more careful than before . Same goes to almost drowning and such , it didn’t create a fear of pool of water or so . Again , i just learn to be more careful . This proves a fact that humans are complex . To achieve a 10 , there will always be more than 1 equation. 5 plus 5 equals 10 , so is 8 plus 2 . Also to factors of nature versus nurture , some people were born with such ability yet some requires extra attention in terms of nurturing .

[@j.a.4315]

"A strict Christian upbringing" I'm very unsettled by how often this describes the background of people that grow up to do truly reprehensible things...

[@axelgrease69]

@TxEEO Yes.

[@pengu3996]

@TxEEO exactly

[@kaimiz]

@TxEEO 100% this

[@electricant55]

@TxEEO and not all nazis committed war crimes. Fantastic logic, as expected of someone calling people "sweethearts"

[@nicklausb]

@@electricant55 her logic is fine, where as your strawmen of her logic is pretty dumb. Not her problem

[@nickmagrick7702]

some studies require that the people don't know they are studying them. Maybe that means some things we shouldn't study, but we should be realistic about it

[@berrymint6384]

There i9s NEVER need to torture ANYBODY for information That is simply evil.

[@nickmagrick7702]

@@berrymint6384 Okay, I don't know where you got torture from

[@sanguiniusonvacation1803]

Hey PD , try The Monster Experiment. Because tormenting children seems to be a favorite of past science fringe

[@HYDRAdude]

I can ensure you it's a phenomenon hardly regulated to the past.

[@valathaerieldawnblade6075]

I can assure you tormenting children is hardly "fringe" science.

[@sanguiniusonvacation1803]

@@valathaerieldawnblade6075 fair enough .

[@johnthomas4108]

@@valathaerieldawnblade6075 or science, for that matter

[@invincibleunderthesun8545]

We miss you glorious hawk boi

[@victoriamendoza4172]

This is one of the saddest experiments of the 20th century when psychology was at its peak of a new evolution. I hope little Albert Rest In Peace. Nobody deserves mistreatment in the name of science.

[@gessie]

The Albert experiment was nothing by even today's standards, not to mention standards back then. Psychology is the most cruel academic discipline by a giant margin, and patient torture is still widespread today - even in the west. The only thing that changed is that behaviorists viewed torture as research, while modern psychologists view it as the application of said research, which is why the institutionalized tend to come out far worse then how they went in. This is in the literature, even if ignored by the APA, and various ex-patient activism groups are powerless to stop it despite countless protests.

[@lexyshannon9428]

@@gessie To be fair, I am a psychogy major so my view may naturally be biased, but I would disagree that it's the most cruel discipline out there. There are definitely bad things that have come out of it that should have never happened at all, but we've also come a long way since then. Unless someone in the psychology field actively ignores or goes out of their way to avoid HIPPA guidelines and patient confidentiality and safety, a lot of today's standards for psychology experiments actually work to ensure the safety of the volunteering individuals. (Granted, that is also only for the psychologists who make sure to follow said guidelines.) There are definitely bad psychologists still out there, though. However, that doesn't mean that all of them don't care about the wellbeing of people. Personally, the reason why I chose to study it was because of personal interest and a desire to help people as a therapist (also because I hate statistics and therefore would not be able to handle conducting research and experiments at a doctorate level.) I do still despise the cases of psychological torture that have come from the field, though. I'd argue that the psychological torture experiments shouldn't even be considered as a study to begin with. It's absolutely absurd that people will put others through that for the sake of "science". It's needlessly cruel and no amount of knowledge will ever justify it.

[@gessie]

@@lexyshannon9428 You're right - I wasn't being very nuanced there. I still think it's the most cruel discipline however, since the others generally aren't cruel (except perhaps politics, depending on the variant). Even a handful of cases of imprisonment without trial and forced drugging is enough to gain that distinction, and we're talking many thousands.

[@lexyshannon9428]

@@gessie fair enough tbh

[@freshprawn2973]

Ironic that the man “specialised” in child psychology and yet his sons were suicidal

[@xoan7278]

He's obviously not mentally ok

[@domenickalexander9547]

His sons being suicidal don’t necessarily mean that he was a bad parent, not even close in fact.

[@xoan7278]

@@domenickalexander9547 yes it does lmao

[@bat8547]

@@domenickalexander9547 it is close, abusive parents are a lead to suicide too.

[@LluviaAva]

@@domenickalexander9547 They were raised to the “behavioral principles “ of two adults who thought it appropriate to emotionally torture an infant. I think it’s a healthy assumption to make that they’re poor parenting might affect their children’s mental health.

[@rebeccarakuza2845]

When my baby slept thru stress tests they would bang a pot next to my stomach. They told me this was common practice. To this day my son is 6 and he freaks thru loud noises, the fire alarm keeps him on his toes for days

[@kai990]

Don't worry, ethics don't apply to non-adults.

[@aslamnurfikri7640]

Geneva convention? More like Geneva suggestion

[@busterbeagle2167]

Planned parenthood agrees. Abortion is murder

[@ИванЛесуков]

@@busterbeagle2167 , I'm not sure about abortion. On one side it is murder of a child, on other i don't wanna to give woman rights

[@That_Guy_Ty]

@@busterbeagle2167 cool, thanks for such an insightful and awesome comment that everyone will care about and not cause a potential argument about.

[@christosvoskresye]

It's more like, "Ethics do not apply to those unable to retaliate."

[@kimtastick9010]

This is so sick and cruel. How those men just say there and scarred that boy without any obvious moral issues is beyond me.

[@JewelWildmoon]

That rat was thinking "Ffs now they're tormenting their own children too"

[@MultiPetercool]

I knew some kids whose parents were psychologists. They were the most messed up people I have ever known.

[@Siha7567]

My little one just turned nine months, this breaks my heart.

[@robc4191]

Well lay off the hammering of the metal bars and you should be ok.

[@pegzounet]

Yup, not watching this one.

[@EneTheGene]

@@robc4191 what?

[@mettapeachhead2076]

@@EneTheGene 8:11

[@Siha7567]

@@robc4191 no u

[@cobeer1768]

3:36 A newspaper article shouldn't flicker like a newsreel. And that much flicker is going to cause a seizure.

[@hippiegamer112]

Exactly, love the videos but I've noticed that flickering on the past couple of vids. I don't even have epilepsy or anything like that and it makes me ill...

[@robotnoir5299]

This comment needs more likes. Flicker is super-annoying.

[@cows4me79]

I agree. At least a warning before the flickering. I have seizures and get so sick after. As soon as I see a flicker I shut my tablet. I have to wait until the video is over- I wear headphones. OR I-have to ask someone in my house to check to see if the flickering is done. I don’t know if I can watch any more videos from this channel after the last few

[@skullsaintdead]

Another comment in support, seizures aren't to be trifled with.

[@krashd]

And trifles should never be seized!

[@joanbaczek2575]

Imagine the attachment disorder they created then that baby grows up and wonders why all relationships fail.

[@metalgearzwei]

don’t worry, the baby died at the age of 6

[@fairyblu6929]

@@metalgearzwei That does not make me feel any better...

[@youtubeacc5007]

@@metalgearzwei why?

[@greenbanana1001]

@@metalgearzwei why? Omg

[@metalgearzwei]

ok gamers, googled it. researchers believe that the “Little Albert” baby was Douglas Merritte died after the experiments due to hydrocephalus/water in the brain. this could be wrong, but it’s all we have to go on

[@SOCyak]

I was traumatized by rats as a small child so now I have PTSD and I’ve never been the same since

[@SonJazrin]

The kid would grow up, invent and perfect his fear toxin and go on to terrify Gotham City for years to come.

[@mulliganstew72]

YAYYYYY !!!! Number one comment , ding ding ding

[@elishh8173]

It hurts me that people can hurt an innocent small small baby that just came into this world and can't do anything. Poor poor baby Albert

[@purecaffine5796]

he died in 2007 with a family, kids, grandkids, pretty happy, js had an unconditional fear for animals, which wasn't really life changing or even rlly staggering at all, his family did have to put their animals in a different room when he came over but that's about it

[@MeinSophie]

A neccesary sacrifice for discoveries and new ideas

[@nyudoragon1478]

​@@purecaffine5796 no

[@purecaffine5796]

@@nyudoragon1478 yeah ik that was kinda the point don't ruin my bs, I'm trying to see what people would believe

[@ryang1591]

So is it much in the same way I flinch hearing the garage door opens from when my stepdad would come home and beat me? It's been a fucking decade and I still jump.

[@Tempusverum]

It’s not the garage door, it’s the association. Freakin obvious, but this doofus had to go and make an “experiment”

[@mere_serendipity8275]

@@Tempusverum surprisingly this "doofus" was one of the reasons why we all now think it's obvious. Behaviorism is the beginning of modern psychology. His experiments *are objectively unethical* but the time he lived in was different, so his affair was a bigger problem to people than his experiments.

[@evelinaxxo9593]

@@mere_serendipity8275 not really, his studies are not the reason we think its obvious.

[@sugar-sammich]

You got time to get even now honey, time and maturity are on your side now. Go fuck his shit UP!

[@shatteredscry]

I used to be a truck driver and sleep while the trailer was getting unloaded. When they were done, the unloaders would bang on my door to wake me up, give me the paperwork and park somewhere else. Ever since doing that for a year, whenever I’m at home and someone knocks on my front door, I jump 10 feet in the air and wake up immediately to get ready to ‘walk to the receiving office and drive somewhere so I can sleep again…hopefully..’

[@elenapet6446]

There has been some time since this video’s release, but I have only stumbled upon it now, and since I have some personal experiences that seem relevant to this I’ll just throw in my thoughts now. Growing up, Me and my parents lived with my grandparents, albeit with stairs separating our living spaces. When I was growing up my parents were trying to teach me to walk down and up the stairs, something which upset my grandfather because he worried about me falling down the stairs and injuring myself. My grandparents also had a dog who had a toy that made a particularly upsetting sound and I was really scared of. So to prevent me from walking in the stairs, my grandfather would place the toy I was so terrified of there. This all happened before I turned three where me and my parents moved to another house for a few years before moving back, though at that point I was old enough for that not to be a concern. Later on, at the age of 13 I was diagnosed with a phobia for walking in stairs and/or escalators, something which both my parents and my therapist at the time believed to be caused by my grandfather conditioning my fear of walking in stairs. So just from my own experiences, I would say there is at least some possible merit to Watson’s theory, though it is undoubtedly far from ethical. I do also wish to point out that my grandfather, while his practices were harmful and left me with some issues later on in life, truly loved and only wanted the best for me. He just.. didn’t understand the long-term effects of his actions.