The Dark Truth About This Islamic Cult | Refinery29

In today's video, we explore the truth about this Islamic feminist group. Our journalist sits down with members of this group to try and better understand them. Press play to watch!
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[@refinery29]

Have you ever heard of something like this? Share your experiences here!

[@simplybeyz]

It's not Islam. Kind of another religion. Very far from Islam.

[@mahjabeentariq1090]

This is not Islam u Wana know Islam listen to mulana Tariq jameel if u can't read quran

[@ardyunlu]

I am deeply saddened by the fact that as an informative channel you haven't stated that a) this program and channel was removed from television due to it's frequent lies and false respresentation and manipulative aspects b) that the group was actually classed as a cult and that the 'kittens' were often blackmailed and forced into representing and working for the show c) This man is in prison and will remain in prison until his death due to charges such as 'Cult Leadership', 'Fraud', 'Blackmailing', 'Espionage' and 'High Level Sexual Harassment' d) all women have been freed from this group and many have spoken out about the horrific things they had to go through. Posting this video without any of this information and without any proper information on the group fails to show the actual darkness and horrid truths, and portrays İslam, İslam's many branches, and İstanbul, along with the rest of Turkey, as lawless, meaningless and depthless. I wish you would've cared to show more conversations had with Turkish and/or İslamic Feminists. I wish you would've researched into the topic and spoken to journalists and activits about the situation. This is an old video posted today, in 2020, and you didn't even care to add the current situation and developments to the end of the video as some text. I have lost all my trust as a viewer towards the Refinery29 family, and urge you to share videos with actual informative value whilst showing all of the story. If you want to look like you care about other cultures and lives, don't misrepresent and don't share only a portion of the story.

[@yummy8074]

@@ardyunlu same

[@sarahs9126]

@@ardyunlu well said 👍👍👍

[@bye230]

The fact that she was forced to wear makeup...like wtf

[@franky2347]

And it looks horrendous 🙃

[@plumpy_space_princess]

@@franky2347 lmao

[@bullseye9723]

ohh thats ok !! as long they dont cover themselves fully

[@well.826]

Rightt.

[@well.826]

@@franky2347 frr😭

[@KittyCat1993-m6t]

I'm sorry all the women looked exactly alike crepped me out

[@gabrielarenteria1234]

It definitely is creppy lol so creepy

[@enalo6261]

Well obviously he has the same type as hugh heffner did.But the huge king size bed in the living room is telling of what probably happens there.My guess is they record porn.

[@tiffprendergast]

Ena Lo yeah

[@mervesayar537]

it should creep you out, it's not normal

[@KittyCat1993-m6t]

Merve Sayar true

[@belizapak]

This man is now in jail because he has many crimes, from women's trafficking to fraud. In Turkey, this man is known as one engaged in prostitution, and not be loved by anyone. In addition, most of the scenes seen in TV series and movies are an exaggeration about Turkey. Istanbul or Turkey is not such a place, literally. It contains many religions and views which is such a normal thing. Moreover, Islam is not something as mentioned here. Unfortunately, just recently it has done such things to discredit Turkey. If you can research the right things from the right sources, you can better learn the accuracy or inaccuracy of what is described in this video. Thank you :)

[@calilovett2063]

Oh I wouldn't worry! I think everyone who watched this video realised that this creepy weirdo *doesn't* represent Turkey! It must be a truly fascinating country to visit 😊

[@edaerdem7223]

Absolutely

[@bullseye9723]

thanx for our comment !!! and ISLAM WILL NEVER CHANGE !!!!!

[@rebeccam4016]

I feel like he’s holding them hostage. Cause why’s are there like ten male guards everywhere ???

[@krob2327]

I mean where did they find them? Were they trafficked from Europe??

[@anarodrigues5320]

This is one of the weirdest things I’ve ever seen in my whole life, the guy playing music out of nowhere like ???????????? Crazy.....

[@biancaterrerovega8600]

It took me 5 minutes on the comment section and 15 minutes browsing to find out the Adnan Oktar was jailed in 2018 for accusations of sexual abuse (including minors)and financial fraud. Thank you for uploading the video (maybe i wouldn't have found out about it) but It would've taken you two lines on the description box or 3 seconds at the end of the video to include this hugely important information.

[@os.a.m.a]

Thanks! It took me 2 minutes only to know this lol

[@sabinadzhaf2546]

This isn’t Islam.

[@rotajhassan7369]

What do you mean do love the true Islam or no sorry for my English is bad

[@tiffprendergast]

Rotaj Hassan no

[@Nucl34rManiac]

How is this not Islam? Is it because the “kittens” aren’t wearing a hijab? Or is it because of the clothes they’re wearing? It seems like we can’t even draw a fair conclusion exclusively from the content presented to us in this video... I wish they’d let her film in the studio, but I guess they’re just trying to hide something 😟😬😬😬

[@MissEmily8073]

Vape Naysh Represent I think you are confusing culture to Islam

[@eshalmahmood5227]

Vape Naysh Represent it’s not Islam because half the “facts” he said are false in Islam

[@simplybeyz]

This man is now in jail.

[@sweetiedarling5736]

What for?

[@simplybeyz]

@@sweetiedarling5736 "In the statement made by the Istanbul Chief Public Prosecutor's Office on the issue, he defined Adnan Oktar as the "leader of the organization", "Establishing an organization for the purpose of committing crimes, Sexual abuse of the child, Qualified Sexual Assault, Blackmail, Taking out the assets abroad, violence, and asked them to be arrested for threats of deprivation of liberty by using threats."

[@2baran]

Beyza Ylmz wow...

[@sweetiedarling5736]

@@simplybeyz Dang

[@AnnabelRoss6789]

@@simplybeyz whoa...

[@lonblauser8436]

I am deeply saddened by the fact that as an informative channel you haven't stated that a) this program and channel was removed from television due to it's frequent lies and false respresentation and manipulative aspects b) that the group was actually classed as a cult and that the 'kittens' were often blackmailed and forced into representing and working for the show c) This man is in prison and will remain in prison until his death due to charges such as 'Cult Leadership', 'Fraud', 'Blackmailing', 'Espionage' and 'High Level Sexual Harassment' d) all women have been freed from this group and many have spoken out about the horrific things they had to go through. Posting this video without any of this information and without any proper information on the group fails to show the actual darkness and horrid truths, and portrays İslam, İslam's many branches, and İstanbul, along with the rest of Turkey, as lawless, meaningless and depthless. I wish you would've cared to show more conversations had with Turkish and/or İslamic Feminists. I wish you would've researched into the topic and spoken to journalists and activits about the situation. This is an old video posted today, in 2020, and you didn't even care to add the current situation to the end of the video as some text. I have lost all my trust as a viewer towards the Refinery29 family, and urge you to share videos with actual informative value whilst showing all of the story. If you want to look like you care about other cultures and lives, don't misrepresent and don't share only a portion of the story.

[@albertchehade9916]

.....welcome to the 21st Century....The Time of trump......the liar in chief.....

[@cmont4064]

WOW , Thank you so very much for your extremely important statment! I agree with you 💯 , I actually thought the ladies looked rather silly all having the same look, but really I believed the woman explaining how this changed her life, but felt she was not being fully truthful ,your statement put things in perspective, sadly. Thank you again. With Love from Washington State 💚🌲

[@mariahdecourcey6785]

This was made in 2015 so I'm sure they just left out information because that information wasn't available yet... just an observation.

[@marythr2617]

She clearly shows that it is a small group of people, very cult like… there are tons of similar weird cults all over the world in many different countries. I would try not to take it so personally, next cult they may interview could be anywhere in the world. Believe me when I say that most viewers are not assuming that such tiny cult represents what Turkey is. It would be silly to assume that this represents an entire nation.

[@secondchance6603]

"İslamic Feminists" LMFAO!!! No such thing.

[@bellenight6123]

I know this story, it was so famous at some point in the beginning of the 21st century, it's annoying to see someone trying to raise money and fame to distort my religion and culture, really this is very annoying, this guy was supposed to be in prison, how he got out of there, he was in prison that I was sure and was in the news a few years ago! Oh, my God! 💔💔He exploits women and adjusts their forms with almost fatal plastic assembling surgeries, and shows them in his TV show to dance with him and he keeps saying words that have nothing to do with reality or anything related! He's using women.💔💔💔💔💔💔💔, And I mean, it's the man who's trying to make money and fame because the girl who's looking has worked hard to reveal this to everyone♥️♥️

[@Thelostboots]

I know it’s so sad. The amount of Islamophobia this kindles is scary.

[@bellenight6123]

@Michelle Goodrow i hope😢

[@bellenight6123]

@Michelle Goodrow i will pray too♥️♥️

[@shenieg9055]

I find it unpleasant that you’re using this time to re-upload this particular video which was made some time ago. Turkey is suffering with issues with femicde recently which has brought outrage worldwide, and it seems that you’re using this to re-immerse an old story and provoke more reaction/join the trend. If you truly support women’s rights in Turkey/globally, then make something rightful to the current situation. Do not re-introduce this stupidity which has already been dealt with. This man is in prison and this is an old story.

[@eces.5287]

Amen !

[@elysetroubadour6117]

I swear I had seen this like ten years ago. Thanks for explaining

[@lonblauser8436]

This isn’t Islam.

[@mandiraexotic]

Does not change the fact that this happened. They have mentioned 2015 in the video and nowhere have they claimed it’s a recent video.

[@shenieg9055]

@@mandiraexotic Yes it happened, and it's over and done with. It was not necessary to be brought up again, there are other things that can be talked about which can be more influential/useful in the terms of talking about femicide. They may have mentioned the year, but they should have included more context about the present situation. It is easy to miss it and assume that this video is recent if you do not know the context of this story. If this video is five years old, then they had plenty of time to edit and add this contextual information. All it took was to add a two-minute long disclaimer at the beginning of the video addressing this.

[@reals7082]

If they are feminists why do they look exactly the same. They seem doll like

[@franky2347]

All eleven of his Stepford wives

[@cyprineamandy3591]

I agree haha looks like hef's blondes

[@cyprineamandy3591]

No tea no shade

[@julie-4549]

Off the topic but why can’t feminists be doll like? They can choose to be whatever they want

[@reals7082]

wy Z they all look the same is my point. Which means they are most likely conforming to the cult leaders version of beauty which is against feminist beliefs.

[@Eliza-ex4rn]

something is off.. something is feel so wrong here...

[@kenzieleigh4]

I know they seem like they have guns to there heads

[@dc9067]

That's Middle East for you

[@chaosasitswirls6125]

@@dc9067 no it's not... this is one cult in Turkey- the Middle East is huge

[@chaosasitswirls6125]

@@dc9067 that's like judging the US based off of scientology

[@dc9067]

@Effa Tariq exactly we don't need it

[@xotennisxgirlox]

That music and dancing part was like a fever dream.

[@tubaeren5723]

I think you guys could make an update at the end of the video. You can't ignore the progress in this case. He is in jail and those people around him confessed that they were forced to act like this at that time. You are perpetuating an inaccurate presentation of Islam that media has started a while ago.

[@godknows4454]

I agree

[@Liliann31]

Agreedd..... More context would have been appreciated and the fact that this was 2015

[@alisaishere]

Except she explained that he pulled ideas from multiple religions, so no one believes this is true Islam. He uses the term Islam to try to catch the eye of future recruits. Also, since you posted this, the court of appeals overturned his case and sent it back to retrial. So if you want them to update, you should probably donate money so they can hire a new employee whose sole job it is to check all of their videos for the most recent information and update them. I think most people understand that unless you are watching the current news, there is always a chance that things have happened since then.

[@edaerdem7223]

Hey I'm from Istanbul. I would also like to see the everyday life of Istanbul. These scenes only show touristic spots with an islamic perspective however Turkey has a broad spectrum of religions and amazing scenes of modernity. Not every women is covering their heads for ex:) You should also search for Nisantasi, Bagdat Caddesi, Caddebostan beach side, Kanlica etc. To have a better understanding when we are talking about Istanbul. Every corner has its unique taste. Love from Istanbul

[@Thefrenchgal]

Eda Erdem aynen :)

[@bullseye9723]

"Not every women is covering their heads for ex:)" such a bad example....

[@zeyzey1285]

@@bullseye9723 not really 🤷

[@bullseye9723]

@@zeyzey1285 for muslim ofc thats bad!!! she actually said modernity "not every wears headcover"

[@annieb5595]

Thank you for sharing !!

[@mahjabeentariq1090]

This is not Islam plzzzzzzzzzz

[@misscrazyfro391]

Did they change the title

[@m_nolimite455]

😂😂😂😂

[@raykeefeltin4000]

kzbin.info/aero/PLiBeHFQJFza9PvtwIth0Rn7KrIjfPXsUg

[@teyamz2435]

But he mentioned Allah?? how come it isn't an Islam then..

[@fairylights8078]

Respectfully, I would highly encourage you to research more about Islam, or other religions for that matter, as often what we are ahown in the media etc is v biased For eg, for a person living in an Eastern country, seeing school shootings in America might make me think that that is what their religion is promoting, its a v misleading way to form prejudices based on j an article or news report I would encourage u to not just search on Google etc and instead we should all try to have a respectful open minded approach and really study the religious texts etc to fully get what it is all about I highly encourage you to read the Quran with an open heart and mind and I'm sure you will understand what we really mean by saying that this is not Islamic in any way

[@silvaniawemonar.2026]

IT'S NOT EVEN ISLAM. Please correct the title, it's misleading

[@kayleerebekah4884]

It hurts my heart to see any religion or set of beliefs twisted and distorted in such a disturbing and disrespectful way. I personally am nondenominational Christian, and I have witnessed and read about and heard my beliefs manipulated and used to benefit one person or group of people far too many times. I am so glad this man was exposed and put away, and I pray that these women heal and find a way to move past what I’m sure was a horrendous experience

[@ShadowyTheHedgehog]

Mohammed split the moon according to their Quran and lots of misspellings or errors what kinda God is that if he himself can't even spell and say what he wants to do properly, read the Quran it will say kill the non believers kill kill kill and then in the next sentence it says forgive them and go to the people of the book 😂 so first Allah tells kill and then he contradicts himself WHY?. It is a cult. Can't you see. They walked naked around the kabba also and kiss a stone send by the ALLAH. We have to idol worship. Its not it's this cult. It is a CULT. It's many people are misinformed about the Quran and Donkey brained Mohammed and his flying Donkey, Allah the dumb God. I can make a lot of Muslims instantly leave islam in a slap. Lookup Christian Prince he will inform you about the Quran with talks with Muslims himself!. But they are victims we do not hate them we wanna forgive them, because my God that came down in the flesh "Forgive them father for they do not know what they do" and you wanna save as many from this stupid religion. It's a dangerous religion for all of us you know that Allah said they can lie to people? You know what they call that? Taqqiya. Yes Allah (Satan) allowed people to lie. So their God is the exact opposite of ours. The bible tells me "Satan is the deceiver of the whole world" Revelation 12:9 read your bible. if i can see satan where would he be. With people he can twist peoples minds with something. Allah is Satan. And Mohammed believed he was possessed by a demon. Which is clearly true if he lived today let me tell you he would be having all the disorders 😂. By their fruits you shall know them. I am afraid after reading this you might wanna edit your comment. Cause it is true, just open up the Quran on Sunnah.com and read some of it it's hilarious. Their God doesn't know what he must do sometimes or how science works. It's laughable. Just for you're research do it and you will find quickly you're mind has changed and you are left with confusion and laughter on some things. It's a true story about some one born in Saudi Arabia and when he reached to the age of forty, he claimed that he is a prophet of God, he receives inspiration through a holy Angel and God chose him to seal the prophet hood. His book is the final and the perfect and his followers are the best creation on earth. He encouraged his people to kill, rape, torture, steal, and said that it was God's commands. He had a billion followers through fifteen centuries and his followers are looking for more killers to follow them. Its just the Muslims of today don't know their own book. Not only that they have more then one book YES NOT ONE BUT MANY. The hadiths needed because apparently the holy Quran wasn't enough killing and rape and stupidity. This video is a joke i laughed all the way through knowing the truth. So does my lord. When he comes back we will see Allah finally fall.

[@jmonie02]

😮

[@hottea1]

Getting Hugh Hefner vibes from this guy lol

[@slimjim5487]

Yes exactly

[@chungus_khan]

hes in jail and this group has been freed.

[@latinalopez2385]

@@chungus_khan thanks for the update, please share more details

[@gabinumb93]

Don't you ever talk shit about ma boy hugh

[@Oceanbreeze160]

Lmao 🤣!!!

[@starqazinqq_]

“This IS SUCh A GrEAT gIFT i reALLY aPPReciatE IT”😄😁😄😁 “That was the weirdest thing I have ever gone through in my live”

[@Aishaa_aa]

He actually is in prison right now because of this

[@kellyann59]

Nothing says feminism like a male absolutist leader

[@Thefrenchgal]

They are neither FEMINIST nor ISLAMIC. Only the word CULT is right in this title.

[@tiffprendergast]

La Psychologie avec Pelin yup

[@CAPTAIN_CORNETTO]

Is this a re-upload? Cause this is so old news. Ah... Right... They said it on their description. "This video was originally published on Broadly and is being repurposed by Refinery29." Why tho?

[@HitomiNoRyu]

1:15 Wait.......what? Why are you blurring his face on the computer? We literally just saw him uncensored in the beginning of the video!!!!

[@rainieskys]

Probably as a means to not use other’s (the cult’s) footage for copyright reasons

[@SamMKKK]

To my Muslim and/or Turk fam: thanks for expressing your concerns about this video. I’d take your stories over media sensationalists any day.

[@dubbiedubbie437]

watching it on mute with captions, and then just suddenly seeing the kittens vibing and the journalist looking so confused but then joining in on the vibing cautiously....same

[@ayeshascorner5415]

Bruh why did they but “islam” in the cover this has nothing to do with that...

[@5minutegiraffes424]

The Playstation one graphics are sick

[@xSuperdogx]

18:35 I think sums up this whole video. As she’s summarizing her time, locals behind her scold the two women walking by like they’re pleased yet disgusted 🥴😒

[@vetsailene]

they suddenly just party so randomly? is so weird. its so funny too HAHAHA

[@oldhollywoodangels]

There's a very thin line between cult and religion

[@thunderousapplause]

there is no line. all religions are cults. there are no gods. its sbout control.

[@Mystupidheart123]

The part where they start dancing when the music plays is so robotic. I love the host btw

[@mshadeel]

Islam and feminism do not correlate. Also, it makes no sense why a cult "for women" is being led by a man. Isn't this a reupload?

[@edaerdem7223]

This is not a cult that is clearly what they say. Inside its different. It looks weird also, you can say something is wrong? Idk maybe thats beacuse we now the reality of the cult in the country

[@sara-qq5cl]

There is a direct correlation between islam and feminism tho... islam was the first religion to give women rights, to forbid people burying their children because they were female, islam also gave women the right to mehr which is money their fiancee gives to marry them. Furthermore, islam made life for women better; God made it so that it was a husband's right to make sure the wife has been fed, has money etc, but a woman's right is that the money they own, her husband cannot touch. In Islam, God made it so that forced marriages, if it be a man being forced, or a woman being forced it is forbidden! So for example, if they then had intercourse, it would be classed as r*pe and then by Islamic law the man or woman would he dealth with in accordance with the islamic law. Before anyone comments about the Islamic law being barbaric, lemme just tell you that womens rights stem from islamic law, and most countries have adopted most aspects of the islamic law. If u have any questions, please let me know (Edit:) Also, i cant believe i forgot to mention this, but islam was the reason many women back then were allowed education, the first university in the world was opened by a Muslim woman! I just want ti highlight that islam is NOT what the media portrays it to be, the media like angles which give them views and reactions. I think if one believes the media it just shows that they are completely naive, impressionable,m and says a lot abt their character; they are ignorant and dont want to listen to the truth, for example the media portrays black people to be part of gangs and criminal activity, but someone with a sense of reality, competence and a brain will be able to determine that, that is completely false.

[@boop3260]

@@edaerdem7223 nah dude this is absolutely a cult. It is neither Islamic nor feminist. It's just an old man manipulating women for his own gain

[@bullseye9723]

@@sara-qq5cl yeah we all muslims know that !!! but now a days feminism is going beyond its limits!!! which dont not matcht he islamic narrative!! for example abortion!!

[@sara-qq5cl]

@@bullseye9723 actually abortion is allowed in islam; certain cases allow for women to have abortions, the only reason abortions arent allowed in islam is because we believe we shouldnt be the ones to take that life however, us muslims are tolerant and respectful people and so, we respect others who do choose to abort. We have no place to judge. Furthermore, feminism is the fight for equality for both men AND women, not just women... its all about having equality for both genders 💗

[@sugarbabylove1000]

Seen this before. You've changed the title?

[@yeolzy9201]

Thank u refinery for brightening my Eid up !!

[@lilbitscandalus]

Is this re-upload?! Because I think I have seen this years ago..and if yes.. so glad you guys bring this up again because more people should know about this subject

[@lizhasasthma]

I get that this is a reupload and that's why it's not up to date, but there really should be an ending card with information about the arrest and jailing of the leader.

[@iamwoman1986]

Why is this being reposted this was posted originally on KZbin years ago now somebody is trying to make money off it again

[@teejay8910]

Hello Refinery29... I recall this episode broadcast on 60 minutes a few years back...Yet another "Cult" if nothing criminal isn't happening the camera crew should have been giving some clearance .. Although coached each answer from a Lady was written down and had to be remembered it's obvious.. Suspect all together. Thank you for posting.. Peace to Us All.. Sincerely Tee Jay

[@stephaniebitner2558]

This was insane... I would love to see/hear more.

[@cesao__]

Already watched something about this . . Very creepy!!

[@faridyaakob]

The mood shift at 16:32 LOL

[@meganboal7507]

Wow! This was so interesting to watch!

[@halima7991]

This is not islam, this is culture.

[@LapisGarter]

"Teker also shed light on “turnike,” notorious gang rapes of women persuaded to join the group. “They had a scoreboard, and members would be elected ‘champion’ of the week, day or month based on the number of women they had sexual intercourse with. Those with less number of rapes were accused of being gay,” he told the court."

[@zeinaalsherif7794]

This cult is absolutely crazy

[@valerieanne2193]

I can feel how awkward it is to be in this kind of show

[@aidamcewen6884]

All of those women/"kittens" have the same face

[@sharimaepangog5538]

Thank you for the reupload cause I wasn't able to watch these before atleast I learn something about this video....it just it creeps me out...

[@CurlsandThings]

This whole assignment is creepy. The host seems to be tired. The guy glorifies woman yet still completely objectifies them. .... I hope he is at least footing the bill for their cosmetic procedures.

[@blessedwbeauty03]

Aspirica James right, hope he’s paying for those hack jobs

[@terryedwards171]

It's like the Playboy Mansion with a little Islam thrown in.

[@Raima_Is_Lovely]

There is 0 Islam in this. Trust me, I’m a Muslim.

[@minnahhayat5781]

please do not think that... it’s completely wrong

[@hashiva1368]

i remembered watching this way long ago, is this reuploaded?

[@mamdan]

I feel like I've already watched this but it says on the description that it was uploaded only 3days ago. Edit: ahhh... so it was repurposed from broadly

[@TheCladee]

do these women all use the same tube of lipstick, haircolor and plastic surgeon? They are identical, with the exception of the dark haired one.

[@AmalN02]

Umm .. this is not even part of islam. Smh

[@lisabari]

The incredible lack of analysis or real questions/journalistic integrity here is really shocking. It also seems like you put the interviewer in a dangerous physical situation. What a terrible indictment of you journalistic standards and critical understanding of the subject. Allowing the interviewer to be “made up” like a cult member??

[@EDERRRL]

They look the same !! Its frightening

[@kaitlynstevens8469]

This feels like a fever dream.

[@kaitlynstevens8469]

Simon Ghost Riley 😂😂😂

[@minority7899]

These women have been brainwashed. 💔

[@LL-yf1lr]

I seen this before about a year ago or longer! Why is it uploaded again?

[@lordmysaviour5738]

I’ve seen this before.reupload?

[@jenniferclements351]

Looks like it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZOrY2StZ7djnsU was the original.

[@endnami]

Re upload?

[@zee-kh6vm]

wasn't this video uploaded quite a while back?

[@mutiaraqurrota]

Is it reuploaded?

[@princessyarkor730]

Yep

[@DK-vy7ev]

What the *beep* did I just witness?😅😅😅 Music just started playing from nowhere and the kittens started dancing as if in a trance like they're in a cartoon and the villain has some kind of mind control gadget 😂😂😂

[@applemnki]

I loved the kittens in the culty intro video.

[@societysfinest]

This is old

[@BabydollD87]

I don't know when this video was shot but as far as I remember, one girl escaped from that cult(again not sure if she's back or not)... Maybe better find her and have a chat?

[@Lameashellcosplay]

Was really confused because I saw this on Broadley awhile back.

[@rainieskys]

Check the description

[@eces.5287]

I know, shady move. Dislike.

[@RoseyBlu]

You can tell some them do skin bleaching thats one reason why they look so unnatural on top of overly bleach hair and terrible cosmetic procedures

[@krob2327]

They are Russian though

[@MrTVintro]

Isn't this an old Vice doc or something?

[@Em-fz5uh]

That's what I thought too. According to the description box it was a broadly/ Bancroft video. I don't understand why they do this.

[@eces.5287]

@@Em-fz5uh Because they are shady. Right at the time of the "black and white challenge" happening in Turkey about woman empowerment. would not expect this from a channel like this.

[@leslieperez5627]

These lil music segment are super odd and uncomfortable to watch

[@ceciliabrstrupettemadi4706]

I destinctly rememver seeing this, at least a year ago, what Happened?

[@wansukz3035]

This video is very old one ..

[@okaunis]

The oldest story in the world :) and continues.

[@jillievanilli1767]

Wasn't this on Veceland Channel?

[@samjam9875]

This is the most random cult I’ve ever seen ... poor her she seems so uncomfortable

[@tiffprendergast]

Sam jam duh

[@cookingwithruthy9226]

This is actually all I’ve seen this like years ago

[@ArtoPekkanen]

That guy Oktar, he has charisma, I give him that. His communication methods and mannerisms remind me of some TV evangelists, with the confidence and intensity and all that. He is also pretty handsome. No wonder he has managed to establish his cult. But as things go with cults, he ended up in prison on charges of fraud, blackmailing and sexual harassment. So a lot of bad stuff happened behind closed doors, which wasn't surprising. I hope the women who were abused by him and his cult are doing better these days ...

[@nikkiforrester740]

What the actual f’k did I just watch?!

[@spaceandthewoods9624]

this video is from 2015. what's the point?

[@eda....]

this is such old news. do better if you're gonna shine a light on foreign issues and don't rely on reuploads. it's lazy.

[@eda....]

the title is also full of inaccuracies : dark truth (what did you uncover?), islamic (everyone with a single braincell realises this has nothing to do with islam), feminist (i thought it was supposed to liberate not force women to wear make up) :) go refinery give us nothing :)

[@missvasquez6475]

I believe when reporting on a controversial “religious” or social group, it’s imperative that the reporter does his or her homework and asks questions that are relative to the participants’ sociopolitical location. It’s easy to say these women were brainwashed; however there’s a deeper story here. And that’s a story any country can relate to, especially considering that this whole situation is eerie because it highlights the hyper sexualization of women and the unexplained wealth of men at the top of the social structure (which is a narrative all countries are guilty of sponsoring).

[@MarianaGSA]

This exact video was uploaded 4 years ago in VICE life channel

[@tashawilkins5123]

"A reality show that's really like a prison."

[@morningglory8559]

This is probably the strangest thing I've ever seen.

[@meliilani6485]

I saw this video a few years ago..

[@b3z3jm3nny]

"This video was originally published on Broadly and is being repurposed by Refinery29."

[@raniaafifa3382]

2015 vid? @18:58

[@thegoodkindofweirdo]

it doesn't take a feminist to identify and call out how horrifying it is to call anyone, especially women, their "ornament."

[@Justaguywithtruth]

I'm sure he meant it with Honor..the guy gave many examples..the guys seemed.. Tutti Frutti though😳👏😂

[@artemmaaa]

reupload?

[@asilajafari4413]

His radical un-islamic views resonate those of Shahrour, an engineer who took credit for books about Islam that he couldn't have written. Shahrour presented as Muslim but fought the fundamentals of Islam, he was praised for that in RAND report, which pushed "enlightened" islam instead of secularism as the alternative to orthodox Islam.

[@user-ff5dx5sh2k]

My one thing is that the title leads you to believe that this is part of Islam. They kept referring to this cult as creationism multiple times, so why not call the video what it is; a creationism cult.

[@alyssastewart738]

I’m so confused where the “everyone looks the same” thing comes into this whole mindset religion creationism thing lol I have more questions at the end than I did when the video started

[@salmalubani4424]

As a Muslim this is insulting to me, I just agree with him on one point Darwin’s statement is ended wrong in my opinion but the rest is just bs Islam isn’t like this never was never will.

[@girlwhoseeks]

I’m joining

[@kubraalbayrak6807]

There are various claims about Adnan Oktar. one of them; that adnan was a good Muslim in the old years, and when he was working to spread Islam, he fell into prison and his brain was washed with heavy tortures and he was made to be completely harmful to Islam. Another claim is as follows; oktar babuna (aka adnanoktar) was a man who was fond of luxury and constantly made friendships with the children of socially famous and rich families, distorting the verses of the Quran and manipulating people in his own interest... There was every kind of immorality in this community. he deceived women with his rich and handsome male disciples and added them to his congregation. these men approach women and first tell them about their luxury lives, make them walk around, shop, and then say they want to get married. Adnan Oktar says that she should enter the congregation as the only condition for their marriage. much worse; these boys say that the girl had to have sex with other guys in the group before they got married. If she accept this and have sex with other boys, they’re secretly recording them. Girls who enter the group with ugly methods like this one do not dare to come out again. In Turkey, hundreds of families are suing to recover their children and Adnan oktar taken into custody. There are so many ugly things in the case file. The kittens that the Turkish people constantly make fun of are actually victims. this is the reason for high security measures. this file even says that kittens are used as internationally agents. as a much more stunning detail, a diet was popular in Turkey. this diet was determined by the person's blood. There was only one laboratory that did this essentially, and this laboratory also belonged to Adnan Oktar. According to the allegation, Adnan Oktar sold the blood of the Turkish people to other countries. It is not yet known which countries are used for which purposes. this man is very dark and what he does has nothing to do with religion..

[@tiffprendergast]

Kübra Albayrak good he’s in jail

[@lunaluna6474]

its sad theyve been so brainwashed into believing that this is empowering them and giving them freedom etc. I guess it might be giving them some freedom compared to what they used to maybe go through but its just sad to watch

[@Syed_12]

Islam The Beautiful Religion ( Be Just ) Quran 5:8 '' O you who believe! stand out firmly for God, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the HATRED OF OTHERS TO YOU make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety: and fear God. For God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. '' Quran 4:58 '' Indeed, God commands you to render trusts to whom they are due and when you judge between people to judge with justice. Excellent is that which God instructs you. Indeed, God is ever Hearing and Seeing.'' ( God's The Rules Of War ) Quran 2:190 '' Fight in the way of God THOSE WHO FIGHT YOU but do not transgress. Indeed. God does not like transgressors. '' Quran 2 :193 '' And fight them on until there is no more oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God; but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. '' Quran 4:90 ''.........So if they withdraw from you and cease their hostility and offer you peace, in that case Allah has not granted you permission to fight against them.'' Quran 8:61 ''And if they seek peace, then you also seek it, and put your trust in God. He is the Hearer, the Knowledgeable.'' ( Stand Up For Justice ) Quran 4 :135O '' Ye who believe! stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to God, even as against YOURSELVES, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for God can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest ye swerve, and if ye distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily God is well-acquainted with all that ye do.'' ( Who Are The Good Human Beings? ) Quran 177 '' Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in God, the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets and gives wealth, IN SPITE OF LOVE FOR IT, to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveler, those who ask [for help], and for freeing slaves; [and who] establishes prayer and gives charity; [those who] fulfill their promise when they promise; and [those who] are patient in poverty and hardship and during battle. Those are the ones who have been true, and it is those who are the righteous. '' ( Freedom To Believe And To Reject ) Quran 2:256 '' Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clear from error '' Quran 10:99 '' And had your Lord willed, those on earth would have believed - all of them entirely. Then would you compel the people in order that they become believers? '' ( Tolerance For Other Religions ) Quran 109: 1- 6 Say,"O disbelievers, I do not worship what you worship. Nor are you worshipers of what I worship. Nor will I be a worshiper of what you worship. Nor will you be worshipers of what I worship. For you is your religion, and for me is my religion." ( Protection for Idol Worshiper ) Quran 9:6 "And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah. Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are people who do not know. " Quran16:125 “Call people to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good teaching, and argue with them in the most courteous way” Quran7:199 “Be tolerant, command what’s right, pay no attention to foolish people” ( Friendship With Non Muslims ) Quran 60:8 '' God does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, God loves those who act justly. '' ( Do Christians And Jews and "OTHER" non-Muslims go to Heaven? ) Quran 2:62 '' Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,->ANY Protecting Friends < One Of Another ) Quran 9:71 ''And the believers, men and women, are > Protecting Friends < one of another; they enjoin the right and forbid the wrong, and they establish worship and they pay the poor-due, and they obey God and His messenger. As for these, God will have mercy on them. Lo! God is Mighty, Wise.'' Quran16:97 “To whoever, male or female, does good deeds and has faith, We shall give a good life and reward them according to the best of their actions. Quran 30:21 “And of His signs is that He created for you from yourselves mates that you may find tranquility in them; and He placed between you affection and mercy…” The Prophet Muhammad said, “Heaven lies under the feet of your mother.” ( Human Are One family ) Quran 49:13 " O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of God is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And God has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things)." ( All The Racist People Will Enter Hellfire ) Quran 30:22 "And of His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth and the diversity of your languages and your colors. Indeed in that are signs for those of knowledge." My comment: The '' BASIC '' message of God to the human is that '' YOU '' believe in God and be kind to other human beings / animals and in the RETURNED God will reward you with a new life in Paradise. * The Quran ONLY guides you how to become a good human being "Nothing Else". * You are a good human being or a bad human being that is YOUR choice. * No one can force you to become a good human being. * You MUST work HARD to become a good human being. * Why should ''YOU'' do good deeds and avoid bad deeds? * Do Good - it's for You. Do Bad - It's against you. * '' YOUR'' life is a TEST from God that you will choose to do either Good or Bad. * Find the excuse to help others and forgive others NOT the other way around. * '' YOUR '' final destination is either Hell or Heaven. * So work HARD toward choice of YOUR destination. Quran 17:7 " If you do good, you will do so for your own good. And if you do evil, it will be to your own loss."

[@mikefromvernon]

When a belief system starts becoming cultish there are definite problems and religion is just one of the tools the leader uses. In this particular the case the problem is not Islam as many other world religions have this happen in their ranks.