The Day The Walking Dead Died

[@denicecarlagordon3040]

The show just feels like it's constantly building towards something that never happens.

[@Floridaburg-]

I’ll comment to this but first you need to watch an episode of into the badlands

[@geraldford9266]

Sounds like my life

[@gummypuss69]

But that's part of the theme of the show, and of apocalypse situations in general. One of the recurring themes in the storyline is of struggling to maintain hope for a better future when any attempts at such keep getting knocked down. Despite the zombie apocalypse being completely fictional that theme is very relatable to a lot of people's lives, especially those suffering from chronic depression.

[@MrManio1000]

Sounds like my dates

[@skk7593]

Spot on!

[@denicecarlagordon3040]

Carl was no only the second most important character in "The Walking Dead" but Carl was also one of the only original characters's left.

[@irodsalt6490]

You forget carol and daryl

[@mrcapalot3370]

Denice Carla Gordon i didn’t even know Carl died until a week ago because I stopped watching when a band Glenn died😔

[@notxvexorr4379]

@@irodsalt6490 he means from the comics. Carol died in the comics and Daryl's not even in them. Amc killed off all the big characters that have important storylines in the comics. Jesus, Maggie, Dwight, Rick, Carl, Michonne, Only reason to watch the show anymore is negan, Eugene, and I guess now Ezekiel, yumiko, since they are doing the Commonwealth arc

[@Lb24458]

@BluDucc Bread yes

[@notxvexorr4379]

@BluDucc Bread amc will try and stretch it out as longs as possible

[@tinayalatorres7017]

TWD died because of Carl's death. He’s wasn’t just the youngest, his character supposed to mean the “future” and when he died, they killed the future too.

[@jat6758]

Yup, they missed the fundamental core of the what made the comics so great. It was Rick's story of how he raised his son and secured his future. The other characters were there to facilitate that.

[@iamparitosh]

I can't agree more. Carl was the show's least hope

[@Gullbrand_]

The only reason they killed off Carl was so Rick had a reason to keep Negan alive

[@trealsteve]

@@Gullbrand_ Dumb and makes absolutely no sense.

[@eddiethealbatross5734]

Not to mention his entire death was in vain. He wanted a preachy poorly written monologue about saving people. He chose to save siddiq. He got bit saving siddiq. What happens to siddiq? Dies in the very next season. Way to go showrunners.

[@menace6734]

Without Rick or Glenn it literally doesn’t feel like I’m watching the same show.

[@gabzomo1977]

Or carl

[@joshuachetian4937]

Ikr😭

[@Bell_Matt]

Lol at Glenn.

[@carlgrimes464]

@@gabzomo1977 exactly.

[@wyattherness6730]

I like season 10 Daryl better, but he really doesn’t feel like the same character. He talks way more than old Daryl

[@0oTHEJACKo0]

The last two seasons in a nutshell: Planning to kill Negan, wanting to kill Negan, trying to kill Negan, having the chance to kill Negan, blowing chances to kill Negan, telling others to kill Negan, claiming to be the one to kill Negan, pretending to kill Negan, pretending Negan is dead, wishing Negan is dead, acting like Negan is dead, hoping Negan is dead, being close to killing Negan, having another chance to kill Negan, being mad at Negan for not being dead, being mad at yourself for not killing Negan, saying constantly killing Negan is number one priority, doing all kinds of shit besides killing Negan, not actually trying to kill Negan, having the 8th chance to kill Negan quite easily, regretting not killing Negan.........ok I fell asleep, guess I will watch some other series. Have fun guys I'm out

[@jmoe33571]

0oTHEJACKo0 👏👌 Absolutely correct!

[@mrcheckhammmer]

Wow you really typed all that up

[@Jimmy-zu2ks]

Couldn't have said it better myself tbh

[@Jimmy-zu2ks]

Neo Virz Nah season 6 was alright. Season 7 was where it started to go shit lol

[@sumisumi-by8xv]

0oTHEJACKo0 well said

[@Macktastic7]

Funny when it first aired in 2010, my whole family gathered around and it became our weekly ritual. By season 5 my brother lost interest but everyone else and I remained. Season 6 was just my dad and me. The next two seasons I watched alone. And even I haven't seen any of the new stuff.

[@denisegordon9225]

Rick Grimes was about to died at some point in the show. For TV. show's Critics like me "The Walking Dead" die the day they kill Rick Grimes only bloodline Son Carl Grimes the second most important character in "TWD" series if You really know what happens in the comics past present and future stories then You know that killing Carl off for ratings Value because the show is being plagued by low ratings for long now and they needed a big death character in the show to impact the fans, and because they refuse to pay the actor Chandler Riggs+Carl Grimes to save money for actor Jeffrey Dean Morgan to keep his (Negan) character in the show for two years more, was basically killing the show future hope because Carl Grimes suppose to be the last survivor in this injected apocalyptic world as Rick's only child because Rick is not little Judith's biological father was Shane and Carl Grimes best storylines to Henry or Judith Who is no a part of the Grimes family because like i say before Rick is not little Judith's biological father was Shane, is an insult to the show is an insult to the fans and is an insult to Chandler Riggs+Carl Grimes as an actor who gives his entire childhood to AMC and TWD show :-) Denise C. Gordon a TV. Show's Critic for Entertainment Weakly.✍

[@Lau2856.]

You should season 9 is awesome

[@mirotaatila8044]

You should check season 9 it was an ok season in my opinion new enemies from the comics and etc I enjoyed it alot

[@RussellJoshuaQuiazon]

Wow that's sad af

[@benfica1171]

​@@denisegordon9225 Nobody with a functional brain believes they killed Carl off for ratings increase. The result was, with no surprise, the opposite. Chandler Riggs and AMC had a disagreement. As far as I know Chandler had moved in closer to set and postponed University but AMC had some sort of disagreement with him which is most likely why he was written off. I'm pretty sure he even expressed his discontentment on twitter. He didn't want out.

[@Spike-os2yc]

The irony... The show is dead but still going basically a zombie

[@laurendmaryriggs4511]

Herobrine/ This is not about fucking Negan or Zombies stories lol this show from the beginning was about Rick Grimes and His relationship with his only bloodline Son Carl Grimes, and their Survival in this apocalyptic world if you get rid of the father-and-Son relationship at the heart of the show then the show is over.

[@laurendmaryriggs4511]

Herobrine/The Walking Dead is History now they can't bring back all the ratings the show lose in season 8. in season 9. people say they just want to see the Andrew Lincoln end and after that they say is over for them but for others this show die the day they desire to Kill Carl Grimes the second most important character in "TWD" as Rick Grimes Only bloodline Son. rumours say that Amc is already looking for a proper end for the show. Andrew Lincoln and Chandler Riggs Confirm this news in separate interviews in this past months. they say TWD" show is ending soon, the show have few seasons left only but an AMC insider say for entertainment weekly report that they losing money fan's and ratings and for that reason they can end this show before season 11. if the show is lucky enough at last then the show can jump to the HBO channels but still difficult because the show is being plagued by low ratings for long now. and because former Walking Dead fan's already lost their interest in the show. but also because "TWD" is no longer the #1,TV show in ratings on Sunday's nights anymore since season 6. and when a show lose that much is almost impossible bring all that back again specially because the show is old now. Lauren M Riggs a TV. Shows Critic and also actor Chandler Riggs cousin. ✍️

[@bangoskank493]

Laurend Mary Riggs Totally agree. Killing Carl was the same as killing the show's future. Gimple screwed the whole thing up by not paying Chandler what he deserved. I'll bet Andrew Lincoln wouldn't have left if they hadn't killed off Carl. Even if he had, if Carl was still alive, the show would still have hope.

[@benwalker3068]

Season 9 is good!

[@laurendmaryriggs4511]

Herobrine/ This show is basically "The Walking Dead" itself now is no the same show anymore is no longer the #1 TV'. show on Sunday's nights since season 6 and after season 10. Amc. can make it over because they losing money but they don't want to finish the series without a proper end and i say, but what kind of proper end for the show ? because they ruined the show real arc story between Father and a son, between Rick Grimes and His Only bloodline Son Carl Grimes. this show is so stupid and so pathetic at the same time and at this point is as good as cancelled now :)

[@bishbosh4815]

Season 2 is underrated, its all about build up. You forget that 30 seconds after that scene of them eating around the campfire Glenn told everyone that the barn was full of walkers , starting one of the best episodes of the entire series that paid off 7 episodes and then some

[@paolo8665]

Season 2 is criminally underrated

[@MrMusicGuy1980]

@@paolo8665 This is why I enjoyed the first few seasons of Fear, they slow burned and made choices matter and when it happened, it happened hard. You had to really invest into the story and characters...When they did my boy Nick dirty...I have never watched it since.

[@jorgebarrera9313]

Season 2 and 3 were the best for me, people underrate season 2 but whatever

[@bishbosh4815]

@@jorgebarrera9313 YES they do

[@NeonPanda64]

Idk, everybody I’ve heard from loved season 2

[@user-ch2ux3oq2z]

Carl’s death is the most pointless death I’ve ever seen

[@dragongemgaming8294]

@@gfilmer7150 no they fired Chandler for no reason. They made him think his contract would last 3 more years. But then fired him weeks later. For no reason

[@gfilmer7150]

@@dragongemgaming8294 I am aware of that now.

[@maul8384]

Only seasons 1-5 exist

[@lrich6771]

@@dragongemgaming8294 They fired him because of $$$$.He started the show on a child actors pay grade,Once he turned 18 ,He could’ve negotiated for millions.AMC didn’t want to pay him,So he was killed off.His family had brought a house near the set & although he’d been accepted to college,He was gonna take a leap year to stay on the show.They did him so dirty.His dad did a post about it.They fires him 2 weeks before his 18th b day

[@happyrules22]

He had the lamest death too being off screen. Sure you got to see Andy act as incredible as he can with Rick in the dumps. But, where can you go from here. Like everyone else says...Rick’s bloodline is gone. Then Andy left shortly next season. I heard many different reports that Gimple and Andy were working on a way to have Rick leave the show, but I am almost certain that the final nail in the coffin for Andy deciding wholeheartedly to leave is due to Carl’s unpopular death. I recall an interview excerpt with Lincoln basically saying he was searching for a reason for his character to keep going and what it means to Rick. Knowing how Andy really gets into his role, basically method acting, it’s no wonder he felt no connection anymore and would have rather been with his real family!! Sorry for rant...

[@MylesKillis]

Honestly Glenn's fake death killed my interest in the show. But his actual death was the nail in the coffin.

[@denicecarlagordon3040]

Myles/ Glenn's death was in the comics his death in the show was inevitable and the actor Steve Yewn ( Glenn) really wanted out to start new acting proyects and now he also have a little beautiful Baby boy with bis Assian wife. TWD died with Carl Grimes tne second most important character im TWD because Carl Grimes as Rick only child because Rick is not Judith's father her biological father was Shane like Rick Confirm in Season 6. Carl's death now drastically changes everything in TWD story forever but no for vood because TWD still losing fans, money and fans.

[@MylesKillis]

@@denicecarlagordon3040 idc about the comics. The show executed it all terribly so i stopped watching. You can have your opinion ill have mine.

[@thecoolness317]

Myles it executed it well. I miss glenn but he couldn’t be on forver... he had a perfect character arc. Have you no brain for character development?

[@MylesKillis]

@@thecoolness317 just because you liked something and i didnt doesnt mean i have no brain. His characters death had literally nothing to do with his character development.

[@shmoga]

@@denicecarlagordon3040 if the show is the comic, then is the comic the show?

[@rickbaines8966]

I could handle Glen being killed and maybe even Carl, but once Rick left, the show died for me.

[@dante2037]

That's funny because the show is the best it's ever been since Rick left. If only we had this writing team from the start.

[@guiltypleasureisland6642]

Dante This season has been weak so far

[@rickbaines8966]

Dante the acting of ‘rick grimes’ pulled me in to this serie. So the fact that he got out of it is like pulling the main story out of the show and they just keep showing fillers.

[@liquidasylum2362]

@@rickbaines8966 he's coming back though this season is the best I've seen so far

[@brittanystanton3705]

Dante really I stopped watching after season 8 I was just bored may give it another watch

[@therealvaultyvaulty]

As soon as the Alexandria saga started (and never ended) the whole “survival” theme was lost

[@rockytina2169]

exactly

[@mohammedbasith4689]

the actual story of the walking dead was not just surviving but transitioning to the concept of rebuilding. the comic does it well. the tv show just tosses away all the characters we care about like carl and rick. even glenn, they could have switched it up and had maggie die or something...

[@breakfaith3031]

@@mohammedbasith4689 they could have done that, they also could have just not done a fake out death so close to his actual death. imo killing someone else there wouldn't have had the same impact as glenn, for both the audience and the characters. that said i haven't been keeping up with the show so i've only seen a scattered episode here and there

[@Jjangbunbun]

They’re still surviving…

[@bianca741]

What made me stop watching a show I've been watching for years of my life was when they decided to make episodes focused on sub plots and not show everyone every week. And also Morgan's return, that pretty much slowed everything down and when he showed up in Fear The Walking Dead I stopped watching that too.

[@BurnsReviews]

Carl was the definitely the first domino to fall. It essentially destroyed Rick as an engaging character. Their dynamic together was the heart of the show. Everything went down hill from there.. Rick became boring and Andrew Lincoln has hinted that he no longer enjoyed playing the character as much. We lost characters like Maggie and Jesus because they knew the show had peaked. And with Rick gone all together (future movies aside) it’s hard to care about the show at all. Who are we even following now that Michonne is leaving? Carol and Daryl? They’re cool. But that’s like killing off all the Star Wars character except Han Solo and Chewie, and then giving them their own horrible movie. It’s just bad business

[@RGK93]

Didn't Han and Chewie already have their own horrible movie? XD

[@mikeamber2528]

Carl was never an important character, plus Maggie will be back.

[@idontknowwhattoputformyuse1104]

Nah it was in 7x01

[@skylaralverson8167]

Actually Carl was the most important character.

[@mikeamber2528]

@@idontknowwhattoputformyuse1104 7×01 was an excellent episode I don't care what the haters say

[@TheDudes115]

The show died when they fired Frank Darabont, the only person to touch the show who wanted to make a movie quality experience. The walking dead could have been one of the best shows out there but amc is greedy

[@sigarrio1258]

It's the best show, and it's not my personal opinion, you don't even know what you are talking about

[@funkrobot9762]

SIGARIO I mean.....that totally is your personal opinion. The show is trash.

[@sensacionsombria5125]

@@sigarrio1258 i love twd but the whole show sucks since season 4. Lets be honest dude

[@Eternaldarkness3166]

They should have just shot it as a 3 or 4 part movie. Could have told the entire series then and saved us time.

[@Stormfail]

@@sigarrio1258 Breaking Bad is 100x better than TWD. If it's not your opinion please show one reviewer that says TWD is the best show out there.

[@MasonMcLeodFilms]

The problem is there is no endgame, in Breaking Bad, The Soprano's, True Detective, Fargo, even Game of Thrones now, there is an end goal, we do not know what it is but we know these events cannot go on forever, but in The Walking Dead it just keeps chugging on with nothing changing. In TWD comic, each story arc feels like it could be the end of the overall story, when it isn't, we are quickly introduced to a brand new interesting situation so it feels fresh.

[@MasonMcLeodFilms]

There is something about the walking dead show that i can't put my finger on...like the general camera quality is shit, the shots all look kinda cheap and blurry, the sets look lifeless and dull, not to mention every single episode is shot in some forest.

[@jadduck]

The end game was *supposed* to be to find a sanctuary where they are safe from walkers, but that completely became irrelevant when walkers no longer posed a threat. That's the problem, they literally destroyed the entire show by focussing too much on other people and the rivalry and tension between groups of survivors as opposed to the actual zombies. They can't even go back because the way viewers view the show and TWD story has completely shifted. There were so many nail-biting scenes in seasons 1-3 where we genuinely got uncomfortable watching characters battle walkers, whereas now we just shrug it off because every outcome is the same. The main characters never succumb to zombies, and even when they do they, for some reason, decide to do it off-scene as to almost purposely reinforce that negative association we have. AMC TWD literally just suffers from poor decisions and even poorer show-writing. People like Gimple should never be allowed anywhere near such a large-scale production such as TWD.

[@numa2k147]

@@jadduck well in the comics it's the same, zombied die out they can't be a threat for the while show. BUT the creator of the comics said that everyone WILL DIE. Not negociations. But he stills focuses on the story. I don't feel anything like that on the show.

[@eldermillennial8330]

Numa Deuxmille WILL DIE could just mean that one or two will live long enough to see the new world begin before giving in to exhaustion, but regardless, I’m not the least surprised that the current people in charge don’t want to touch the original Whisperers arc with a ten foot pole. Killing Carl to save money was just their excuse; I’d bet my teeth that they REALLY don’t want to touch that story because it makes radical Feminism look bad. Their leader is a woman who talks like a Feminist Professor, spouting the usual crap about how men are “all rapists” just barely restrained by civilization, and so while she is in charge, she thinks she can only control them by letting them screw whoever they want, including her daughter, and THEN Carl proves to her that Chivalry, even in this world, CAN be real, and the realization that her whole world view was a lie is apparently destroying her, to the point that she’s about to lead her people to their deaths, or so I am guessing from where I left off.

[@laurendmaryriggs4511]

Totally agree with you, in "TWD" stories never end because they Kill the show characters before the Actors finish their story arc in the "Twd" show:)

[@raychulle]

“Season 2 felt like it was the same episode with very little happening” *Lori getting pregnant and it’s not Ricks* *Lori trying to get rid of the baby* *Glenn and Maggie* *Carl recovering from getting shot* *Shane killing Otis and covering it up* *Andrea shooting Daryl* *Barn full of walkers including sophie* *Rick killing Shane* : Am i a joke to you??

[@miguelalexandrereal4940]

I have to agree with the video guy, those things you named is very little for a season of 13 episodes with 1 hour of runtime each. And some of the things u named are not that interesting like "Carl recovering from getting shot", that so boring. Happens more interesting stuff on the 6 episodes of the first season than in the 13 episodes of season 2. But hey, thats my opinion.

[@WillAdamMusic]

Tried to get into TWD twice and both times, Season 2 was when I gave up. I just lost interest.

[@cameronbleecker9072]

idk how people can call season 2 repetitive in comparison to seasons 7 and 8. each of those seasons are almost the same exact episode over and over and over again

[@miguelalexandrereal4940]

@@cameronbleecker9072 True, those 3 seasons very repetitive and boring.

[@Prodirex]

@@WillAdamMusic read the comic. It's faster and better.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

The walking dead died when the death of the characters became meaningless. I followed the story in hopes to see Darryl and Glenn survive, or die honorably. If the characters don’t matter, the story doesn’t matter.

[@mikeamber2528]

The death of the characters never became meaningless. What show are you watching?

[@feraflauna3238]

+Dreamy-And what's really sad about The Walking Dead's demise is that at the beginning, it was a much different zombie show. Where the story and characters actually mattered. Where the characters are multifaceted and lovable. Where there are intense, heartbreaking, and often devastating things. And Darabont's signature style made this show so beautiful and heartbreaking. This was a show tailormade for him. He was perfect for this kind of show. To me, the show died when they kicked Darabont to the curb. I knew right after that happened there was never going to be any consistency with the show anymore. And the show just slowly devolved into a mockery of itself where the characters became far less fleshed out and likable. And it just kept on spinning its wheels to where it's never going to go anywhere.

[@mikeamber2528]

@@feraflauna3238 well, that's an opinion. Because most fans will say that seasons 3-5 were the best period of the show.

[@moneyoh3]

Not everyone gets an honorable death.

[@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203]

it died but not for the reason you mentioned. It died when The first showrunner left, which is after season 2

[@gabeworthington4049]

Long story short, Glenn dying made people not like this show

[@kalrows]

at least he got his comic book death

[@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421]

You really don't get it, do you? That is not what this video is saying!

[@dr.josemanalo2141]

Lol glen's death is inevitable

[@ImmaLittlePip]

People who only consume main stream and don't read comics hate what they didn't understand

[@bibaolaitan5189]

Exactly..

[@elspoko]

-Rick finds some peace -Rick has peace interrupted -Rick goes nuts -Rick gets a reality check Literally every season

[@laurendmaryriggs4511]

Spock/ For TV. shows Critics like Me "The Walking Dead" decline started after the Governor's arc story ended in season 4. after that the show become a boring repetitive long Soap opera with stupid Clown's as Zombie's. but for TV. shows Critics like Me "The Walking Dead" die the day they Kill Carl Grimes the second most important character in "TWD" as Rick Grimes Only bloodline Son. Carl's death now change drastically the story of this already ruined TV. show forever but no for good. if know what happens in the comics then You know that Killing Carl was the stupidest idea that has been done in TV. History. Lauren M. Riggs a TV. Show's Critic and also actor Chandler Riggs Cousin. Ps. Andrew Lincoln departure from "TWD"series has a lot to do with the decision to kill Carl.✍️

[@laurendmaryriggs4511]

'The show is basically "the walking dead" itself now. is just a bag of bones totally ruined:)

[@RAYTHEONGAMING]

Now... -Rick is dead Thanks writers for ruining show

[@elspoko]

@@RAYTHEONGAMING Rick was never the main character. The main character is the viewer. That's why the viewer always knows what's going to happen, has shit teased to them and has everything explained for them. Rick is just the biggest dildo in the closet for the writers to use to fuck with the viewer.

[@ninjagorocks6271]

Rick gets killed. ;)

[@shhhquietplease6264]

Rick literally wouldn't be alive if it weren't for Glenn. The vast majority of their best plans and strategies were all thanks to Glenn. He was the one voice of reason when Rick would lose his mind for half the seasons. His death is perhaps one of the most unforgivable in tv history.

[@Jjangbunbun]

Its from the comics tho.. thats why carl’s death was so random it wasn’t written

[@kylemonsterdrywallfistbump5948]

Dude Glenn had to die. They were staying true to the comic

[@portugaltheman6]

he died in the comic and it was one of the best deaths of all time, same as the show lol its funny how people cannot handle that at all

[@nixus1909]

@@portugaltheman6 Not really. You can’t compare Glenn in the show to the one in the comics. In the comics Glenn is a fine character but when he dies it’s a little sad but you get over it really quickly. In the TV version Glenn was A LOT of people’s favorite character. Not everything should be adapted one to one, only the parts that are appropriate for your show/movie. Marvel are the absolute kings at this.

[@ryanbeltran9413]

@@nixus1909 Yeah I still had faith in the show up until Glenn’s death. Literally showed me the show did not care for its main characters. I think by then only 4 season one cast members and maybe Morgan were left. It was a big shame and for me the shows cares too much on out character deaths. I’m not saying put heavy immunity on main characters but they should be patient with killing characters even if it takes one to two more seasons. At that point too, they depleted the main cast and new cast members from season 2-3 so bad already. They should’ve killed smaller characters first.

[@kirstentellor4018]

AMC held the war between Negan and Rick for to long and a lot of people lost interest.

[@aguasanta]

That's right

[@BetoTheButcher]

Very true and what's funny is that people love Negan now that he's with the Whisperers.

[@denicecarlagordon3040]

Exactly

[@patrod2327]

That's probably still going to continue, if Negan is still Alive when Rick Returns, we'll see if Rick changes

[@MameronCagee]

they held it for too long without doing enough with it

[@pugzilla3597]

>Find a safe place >Place isn't so safe >Kill a enemy >Find a new safe place

[@tbage2210]

since you posted this three weeks ago, unless you stopped watching

[@joshua123838]

Trafford Bage On top of not moving, they’ve built loads onto their existing homes. Even if a place gets destroyed, they have 3 other places to join.

[@cuchicuchi111]

Repeat.

[@cocoaquiet2709]

If you read the comics they found a community with 50,000 people and Rick even stated he's going to stay at Alexandria

[@walmarp]

@@cocoaquiet2709 he dead

[@frankzappa9148]

I lost interest when the show seemed to start focusing entire episodes on one character, thus weeks would pass without having see other characters. I enjoyed Negan.

[@RedmondWoodward]

This right here was one of my jumping off points, especially after watching a show like game of thrones that had a far bigger cast and still managed to get everyone screen time even if it was only a scene per episode

[@carlgrimes464]

Negan was my favorite.

[@kevins1426]

I started watching the show a few months ago (yeah, I know I’m late), and I actually think that structure works pretty well when you’re binge watching the show, but I can see how it would be annoying if you have to wait a week for each new episode.

[@frankzappa9148]

@@kevins1426 yeah for sure I can see how binging would be different. But yeah at the time I think Negan was relatively new. Literally over a month would go by before you’d see a character that you like.

[@malakaihernandez2235]

I respectfully disagree with all of this.

[@Suavesttt]

Carl died pointlessly whilst saving a character that then went on to live for around 2 seasons and then have the most underwhelming, also pointless death.

[@nooooplease7060]

I didn't even realise I was watching a death scene when the guy that carl saved was being killed

[@zombified3362]

Both Carl and the guy he saved survive up until the very end in the comics

[@tekktori]

@@zombified3362 are u fuxking kidding ne?!?

[@dannyp2970]

THE FACT that RICK GRIMES( Andrew Lincoln ) is LEAVING THE SHOW in the NEXT SEASON, is CERTAINLY THE FINAL BLOW TO THE HEAD OF THIS SLOWLY DECAYING CORPSE.

[@EntertainTheElk]

Agreed.

[@mousevision661]

100%

[@lucho3410]

Yup

[@futurestoryteller]

My favorite part is when he announced he would not be returning at a panel and he said "I love this show" and the corner of his mouth turned upward like "Not really, but okay..." I'm not the kind of person who believes reading body language is functionally equivalent to reading minds, but he was obviously betrayed by his genuine emotions there.

[@markotodorovic7013]

@futurestoryteller i mean that's just pure speculation. The man said his reasons for leaving the show and they are perfectly justified. Show is shot in USA and his family is in UK. And why wouldn't he love the show? Looking at his career, Walking Dead is the only reason we know of him. His second most notable role is in Love actually and he wasn't a front runner in that one. On top of that the show made him millions.

[@kurtistucker4684]

No grimes family, no walking dead

[@axios7603]

cough cough judith grimes

[@lateam9786]

@@axios7603 ya that doesn’t count

[@raindennis5517]

@@axios7603 Shane's kid, not Ricks. Confirmed.

[@DARYLDIX0N]

@@raindennis5517 Once you adopt a kid, it belongs to your family...

[@sebastianbejarano8439]

Rj......

[@harryhood8698]

(Needs To Go On Supply Run) Person 1-"I Will Go" Person 2-"I Will Go" Person 1- "No You Stay" Every Episode Synopsis

[@thomaswalters597]

Ummm... no. Just no.

[@diamondyt6819]

Thomas Walters yes just yes

[@SepticSafe_]

@@diamondyt6819 ok buddy, name 4 episodes.

[@diamondyt6819]

David Schaldack no :)

[@davidtristan6749]

@@diamondyt6819 are you dumb or are you dumb? That has only happened in season 1 prob not even season 1.

[@cameronrg1407]

Carl's death totally destroyed the show. The rationale he gave was horrendous and the fact that he blindsided Chandler was tasteless. Still annoys me to this day.

[@GhostTower]

The pace is too slow, it's like they wanted me to stop caring

[@futurestoryteller]

As a person who enjoys slow. Pace is not the problem. Purpose is the problem.

[@TheMaineSurveyor]

The writers aren't very good at what they do, at least not on this show.

[@last7509]

I mean solve the problem already... or all of you die already.... sheesh

[@openingband]

Every show has a point where it hits a repetition point. Breaking Bad did it right. End on a High note.

[@CoolaBoola]

Openingband Haha, a "high" note, get it?

[@5easy]

I felt BB had nothing left to say after walt killed that dude with a plate and felt so empowered he kinda raped his wife.

[@EntertainTheElk]

Completely agree. But BB had an end point. The problem with shows like The Walking Dead is that they really don't have an end point. They just keep going and going until people grow tired of it. :/

[@openingband]

Entertain The Elk I think with the show Better Call Saul they continued BB the best way. Imagine if, for example, instead of continuing WD they started a knew show based on Carl 30 years in the future.

[@InternetUnraveled]

The walking dead is based off of the comics they can't just end it

[@jambr055]

After Glenn’s death I was so done with the show. It became a depressing slog through uninteresting story arcs.

[@markr8755]

Kind of the same here. I was already getting tired of the show leading up to Glenn's death. "The day will come when you won't be" is the very last episode I watched. Have not watched since. Just the same BS over and over again. It is like as soon as the show progresses in a new direction it then ends up just going in circles. Of note, Glenn's death did not bother me. I knew he was going to because of what people told me about the comics. Even though he was one of my more favored characters from the show, if that is the arch I understand. It was just the rest of the show was like watching reruns when they were new episodes.

[@justabitofjunkie2595]

Fuck Glenn, tiresome character always on the same bit that was far too similar to other characters. Plus it stayed true to the comics by killing Glenn. The only disappointing bit about killing Glenn was that Negan's jokes about it were not politically correct enough for the show so were omitted. Abraham was a far better character which they squandered and also gave dead end story arcs and plots to. I guess since they already killed Denise on the show as replacement to Abraham's death in the comics, something had to be done. The actor probably cost significantly more than other cast members as well.

[@disenfage113]

lets all be honest them delaying glenns death and mind fucking us when we already knew is why most people left the show. glenns death didnt feel how it should of and i was over it the 2nd they milked it to the point when it happened i didnt care.

[@smokingpotato3788]

Jambr0 if Glenn didn't die then all out war(season 8) would have been meaningless

[@Zodiac65]

No matter what glenns death needed to happen. dont take me wrong I love glenns character but this show was built to be a representation of the comics with a slight twist in this case they represented the comics by killing glenn but had a twist of killing abraham now instead of how he died in the comics. I think what killed the show was killing carl.

[@Alec11_43]

It’s interesting how such a popular series’ later seasons have fallen into obscurity due to a massive percentage of the audience slowly not caring anymore.

[@NoCapNick698]

Honestly this show was taking the right pace but season 7 should’ve been the end because that’s when it lost the dirty and early 2010s feel

[@kevindonahue2251]

It just went on too long for a show that never seemed to know where it was going.

[@via45]

​@@MangaGamifiedUr comment makes no sense 😂 if no one cares then there will be no profit that's why they should care if people care.

[@lilogden]

This show dying was absolutely mental. It could have been the best show on television for its entire run. When they killed Carl off, that was it for me. The whole negan/whisperers introduction arcs should have been the best part of the show. But it just wasn't there. Something was missing.

[@denicecarlagordon3040]

Bunch of Scrubs/ Totaly agree with Killing off Carl Grimes was the stupidest idea that has been done ever in TV History.- VARIETY

[@Jjangbunbun]

I think it still was the best i never liked carl anyway (in the show partly riggs annoying acting) and the fact that they can still make it an interesting show with Rick not there is commendable

[@kylemonsterdrywallfistbump5948]

It's still awesome but Rick Is the one who's the missing piece

[@kylemonsterdrywallfistbump5948]

@@Jjangbunbun true but you can see the lack of leadership without Rick. There's definitely a void. A meeting with Rick and the alpha face to face would have been amazing and handled much better

[@Liam-rn1qb]

Pretty much all of the saviors stuff except for Carl's death was great. Morgan kills it as Neegan, the iconic Glenn death is satisfying, Carl's stuff with Negan is all interesting. I'm even ok with the idea behind Carl's death but only if the show ends there. I think Rick should have fully died saving Alexandria and the show should have ended there if they were going to deviate from the comics that much

[@tbone9474]

It died when they didn't shoot Negan on the multiple opportunities they had to do so. Suddenly plot armor pops up: A) rick doesn't kill Negan when he visits with an ambush B) coral doesn't shoot Negan from the truck when he had just killed 2-3 goons of Negan C) what's her face missing Negan and shoots his bat instead Bull shit

[@bigswingface5847]

PLUS, Rick can shoot a walker in the head from 40 feet away with his revolver, but can't hit Negan with the 1000's of rounds he shot at him with his automatic weapons. It's beyond ridiculous.

[@tbone9474]

Big Swing Face humans have amazing plot armor

[@vicrattlehead6386]

Rosita shoot him from few inches away, Negan was able to dodged lol

[@laurendmaryriggs4511]

T Bone/ I'died inside When i'saw That walker bite on Carl Grimes . 💔😭

[@tbone9474]

@@laurendmaryriggs4511 you have better tolerance than me, my interest for the show is so low it doesn't affect me knowing Carl died

[@SeanRiddolls]

The show's title should be: "People Arguing - and Occasionally Zombies Show Up"

[@monicapyle]

Brilliant

[@chriscuts7029]

What comedian said this??

[@odditt9159]

That's weird I see a show about surviving in a post apocalyptic world.

[@mikeamber2528]

You must be watching Game of Thrones

[@yavormoynov8640]

i dont understand why people think this way. Literally after ricks "death" the show got more intense

[@umum5348]

I actually really liked the second season

[@clutterking9864]

I did too

[@YT_FALLENX]

I actually enjoyed all except season 8

[@iansilva7422]

Me too, first two seasons are great

[@nafisahmed5408]

Far better than S11

[@YT_FALLENX]

Season 1 and 2 are great TV seasons. But compared to s3, s4, s5,s6 s10, s9 it’s decent. It’s just slow for the first half, and the second half is what brings it up for me but not enough to make it even a top 6 season in TWD. I used to love season 2 more than every season except for 6,5 then i rewatched it and realized it’s now my 8th favourite season

[@dareloldicksin3982]

Herschel, Glenn and Carl dying Rick and Maggie leaving

[@EvilEjXD]

Darelol DicksIn who is Herschel

[@ericchampagne4771]

@EvilEjXD Gaming are you serious ?? lol

[@EvilEjXD]

Eric Champagne are you?

[@EvilEjXD]

☝️see? He spelled the name right.

[@hvvnsent]

Darelol DicksIn wait rick left? I haven’t followed since 2015 lol that’s crazy

[@josephdowney2715]

When Carl died, I was done. I was so excited to see him after the time jump.

[@reynaldo6571]

Same dude :/

[@hello.1847]

I think he was acc the last character I genuinely hysterically sobbed for 😭🗿👍

[@MichaelJohnson-kx3ln]

Don't worry, Carls bones come back too give Rick power. Then get his gals old bones fer even more parrr!!

[@701delbronx8]

It’s funny because the episode of Carl’s death is the last episode I watched. It was just organically the point I stopped watching, it wasn’t even a conscious decision.

[@Pouff.]

Funny how you pointed out the exact moment I stopped watching.

[@EntertainTheElk]

:)

[@charlenemonique1]

Pouff I agree 💯

[@seanbonney5716]

It's basically the same for me, I think I watched some season 7 to see what happened but episode 4 or something is when I stopped cause it got too boring

[@arzesen]

S7E1 is the top reason why most viewers stopped watching the show. Nothing special in him pointing it out. It's as clear as the day.

[@blakecorsaut5981]

He was right on, right after season 7 Episode 1 I haven’t seen an episode since

[@bishbosh4815]

4:50 Abraham and Glenn's deaths did exactly that. It was deaths like Beth, Sasha and Carl that were just for shock value and nothing else. Abe and Glenn's brutal demise at the hands of Negan set the dark depressing tone for the season and threw us head first into the new storyline

[@mikeamber2528]

Carl's death technically had a reason in the show (to give Rick the mercy to spare Negan)

[@bishbosh4815]

@@mikeamber2528 but that never needed to happen in the comics, that couldve been achieved through story

[@Jjangbunbun]

Beths death was so dumb

[@xrphoenix7194]

Glenn was one of the very few well written characters on the show, one of the few that people cared about, and they killed him as brutally as possible

[@AdverseLemon2]

@@xrphoenix7194 it was great. It gave the audience a true reason to hate and root for negans demise. Which made the story all that more engaging when Negans character arc led the viewers opinion of him changing. Eventually leading to people actually liking him! Imo the best character development in the show, which wouldn't have been possible without Glenn.

[@nicolle2126]

i'm waiting until the show ends and someone on the internet does a supercut that edits out the fillers and bad twists

[@EntertainTheElk]

That'll leave a loooooot of stuff on the cutting room floor.

[@SomeFunnyAndOriginalNickname]

Nicolle *cutting the entire 7th season*

[@gohstdude2]

SomeFunnyAndOriginalNickname episode one of season 7 was pretty good tough

[@SomeFunnyAndOriginalNickname]

mr reality Yup, despite my comment i liked first 3-4 episodes

[@_Deputy_]

Nicolle the show would be like 3 minutes

[@nixks2093]

I just feel that killing off all the most loved and core cast strips a show of its identity and when 95% of the cast is new it leaves me uninvested in them and doesn't have the same charm it's like watching a different show

[@thesurvivorssanctuary6561]

Theseus's Ship: If you replace every single part of a boat, is it still the same boat?

[@EJ-wr8bl]

The walking dead died when the zombies no longer became a threat.

[@pira707]

At the end of season 8 rick points to that massive ass herd right? I hope they have to face all that :D

[@blakebauman6374]

Blue Alchemist, not really. TWD was never just about the walkers, it was about the people. It is about what happens to a persons mind when it all goes to shit. Well, that, and other things.

[@EJ-wr8bl]

@@blakebauman6374 I agree but it's gotten repetitive at this point. I love Telltale's version more because it focuses equally on the threat of humans and walkers.

[@matteoalberghini3816]

wait next season then, if they follow the comics like they did until now, it will be perfect

[@matteoalberghini3816]

yes, but there are people controlling the hord in them, thats why I can't wait for next season, if they follow the comics it will be the best season by far

[@anijammer5373]

The problem about constant death and destruction in media is that the writers forget that readers' eyes can adjust to the dark

[@TrinTeeX]

I stopped watching when they killed off Carl. That was the final blow for me. Producers steered WAY too far away from the comic and lost the opportunity to develop the storyline... take viewers away from human warfare BACK to the REAL threat....ZOMBIE apocalypse. Sorry AMC. Call me if you want a new strategic plan...

[@pollymahone9392]

Sheri Lee they are going to kill Rick now

[@Sheffdawg2305]

He was killed by a zombie so your comment makes no sense.

[@dashx2088]

what pisses me off is that the whisperers war is Carl's arc now we don't have carl

[@starrigby5994]

I loved the walking dead until it was about negan not the zombie apocalypse

[@kowxley1793]

It's never been about the zombie apocalypse, it's about survival and evolution, that's pretty easy to understand and well put up in the comics

[@ryans413]

Well season 9 wasn’t really about him it was more about machone

[@tricko8000]

If you read the comic, you will change your mind.

[@ZitiPatrol]

learn to type

[@shobitchouksey3442]

True

[@pdarn27]

They killed off their best characters and left the dumb ones like Tara.

[@tiffanyflorez1953]

screaming at my computer rn lmao. you right lmaoooooo. like why tara? she sucks.

[@AMAStudios]

I don't get why they still have Tara. She probably acts for free. Dogshit character.

[@waragainstmyself1159]

She has huge hanging juggs though, she tries to hide em, but I see em there.

[@robertmcginty4146]

Opposite of Buffy the Vampire Slayer XD

[@TheMaskGuy]

she was okay in season 4. she should have died in that train tunnel.

[@jkuang]

Both Glenn and Carl are the perfect mixture of common sense, ingenuity and conscience in our hearts. They are rarely on high horses. They understand problems and know how to solve problems. Yet they still have a big heart. But that big heart never gets in the way of survival. Once both are gone, the show lost the sense of common sense. You can see BS decisions made by Rick and others. It was like on drug and day dreaming.

[@denicecarlagordon3040]

TWD become a boring repetitive soap opera with zombies after the Governor's arc but killing Carl off was the AMC biggest mistake ever because he was the next-generation in TWD story since the beginning.

[@jedi196]

I like to sometimes daydream about how good the show could have been with Frank Darabont still at the helm

[@johnodonnell1222]

Whatayatalkinabeat

[@laurendmaryriggs4511]

Jedi/ The wanted to make this show the longest show on TV and they Completely ruined it with Carl's death and that's Sucks!

[@laurendmaryriggs4511]

Jedi/ Yeah me too. He was the best former "Walking Dead" show runner ever but He was the one who fired himself because big differences between him and AMC. is Sucks Lol

[@soleynate]

Only person that can save the series is clementine

[@annemarie9035]

Clementine will remember that.

[@lightish3754]

Well, rip telltale

[@abcdefg7770]

@Hate mail Especially for the way they killed Kenny off in s3.

[@willieodea4941]

@@abcdefg7770 I blew his brains out

[@kr1spness]

Yeah, I might come back for a hard reset. Give me a new main like Clementine, added bonus because I have nostalgia for her, and we can move to a new story and get back to basics.

[@Vibrant_HEHO]

Still such a great show, but Carl's death was rough. Really sucks we won't get the final comic scene of Carl reading his daughter a story of the trials.

[@shido_rimru_]

Not really

[@Jcall9]

Still a great show? You serious ? 😂

[@reeso7539]

“Great show?”. Yeah maybe like before season 7

[@Vibrant_HEHO]

@@reeso7539 Who asked?

[@Tribrid-zv3nq]

​@@Vibrant_HEHO why so rude? Also, why didnt you reply to the others and soley picked on this guy? The other replied a long time ago

[@DarkPhoenix89]

Agreed. When Glenn died, the show went with him IMO. I must have watched another several episodes after that and then stopped. It's a shame because it was a solid show for about 5-6 seasons.

[@gudhaxer41343]

DarkPhoenix69 season 7 is where it kind of became shitty to the point of just bad like the dialouge, action, and the GUNFIGHTS the FUCKING GUNFIGHTS WAS SO ATROCIOUS TO WATCH THIS SEASON like wtf first the writing, now the they cant even film a proper gunfights smh.

[@yaboigotmoney5911]

It became boring. The show was moving really really slow. At times there was too much going on, but the things they were doing didn’t feel important.

[@gudhaxer41343]

Yaboigotmoney yea they couldve removed the trash people and the episodes might've improve i BIT.

[@ricoparadiso]

Wow thats exactly what i did thats crazy

[@vsyfyn]

Season 7 killed twd. But season 9 will be lit, just watched the trailer though.

[@denicecarlagordon3040]

A lot of people stopped watching TWD because it turned into Full House with Zombies, but with worse writing.

[@braydennivon4663]

Full house still has worse writing I’m not going to stop watching until Daryl dies

[@hassanalkhalaf1115]

@@braydennivon4663 full house does?

[@BlueBerryNinja11]

Glens false death was the biggest mistake they could have ever done. They gave so many main characters those close calls before, but leaving us weeks unanswered, giving us hope that he would survive and make it to Maggie, and then to kill him off anyway was the biggest turn around slap in the face to us fans. I still watch the show and read the comics. But ever since that episode my excitement and interest has greatly depleted.

[@benjaminA.stantonpun]

I thought Glenn's fake death meant that he was going to live longer than Rick. They fooled you again with Abraham dying first. With Glenn following that, you would think that the creators were trying to doom the show.

[@denisegordon9225]

BlueBerryNinja11/ For TV. Show's Critics the AMC biggest mistake ever was killing off Carl Grimes the second most important character in TWD show after that AMC report the show lowest ratings ever in the show history since season 2, and the show lose more than 17, Millions of fans here in United states only and lose more than 20. millions of fans around the world were the show was the fans favorite tv series. Glenn's death was so brutal and so graphic but his death was in the comics but no Carl's death Carl death was for shock ratings Value because the show is being plagued by low ratings for long now and they needed a big death character in TWD someone near Rick Grimes character to impact the fans but Carl's death was a huge big mistake because Carl Grimes was the world future hope. if You really know what happens in the comics then You know that Killing Carl off was basically Killing the show future because Carl Grimes play an extremely important role in the comics past present and future stories and now his death change drastically everything in the show story forever but no for good. Ps. actor Andrew Lincoln departure from TWD series has a lot to do with the stupid decision to kill Carl more than anything else :-) Denise C. Gordon a TV. Show's Critic for Entertainment Weekly Weekly. ✍️

[@BlueBerryNinja11]

Denise Gordon I agree it was an awful decision for Carl to die. But what can you do when your actor doesn't want to continue the contract? 🤷‍♀️ I think that they are trying to use Judith to be the new Carl, but since she died in the comics then they can kinda do whatever they want with her character.

[@denisegordon9225]

Benjamin A. Stanton/ Glenn's died in the comics exactly like in the show. but the actor really wanted out of the show to stand other projects he say for a Hollywood report after season 7. Denise C. Gordon a TV. Show's Critic for Entertainment Weakly. ✍️

[@denisegordon9225]

BlueBerryNinja11/ Everybody knows already that Chandler Riggs never wanted to leave the show, Chandler Riggs already say in public for an Access stars interview that it was their decision to kill Carl and no his decision to leave the show, he say in that interview and is KZbin You can see and hear what Chandler Riggs say about all that, Chandler Riggs say that he give up collage plan's and other things to do for later to move near the new "Walking Dead"installments set's to start his Carl Grimes best storylines ever and he was so exciting about it because his contract in the show was for 3, years more, when in the mid-season 7, and without say anything to Chandler Riggs and his family at first they change the original storylines for the mid-season 7, and season 8, to kill Carl Grimes, Chandler Riggs character, Chandler Riggs say in that interview that it was a very sad surprise for him because his contract in the show was like i say before was for 3, years more because they say they need Chandler Riggs for 3, years more in the show. Chandler Riggs,( cham's) father William Riggs think that they fired his son two weeks before his 18, birthday because they supposed to pay his son more money as an adult actor after his 18, birthday and Chandler Riggs father was so pissed off about it and he was post in his Facebook page the real stupid two reasons they have for fired his Son Chandler Riggs from "TWD" show two weeks before his 18, birthday because he wanted a little more money for his son after his 18, birthday because the show is decline AMC is losing money with this show that is no longer the #1 tv show in ratings in sunday's nights when new seasons start and they needed to save some money for actor Jeffrey Dean Morgan to keep his ! Negan) character in TWD for two years more but they also wanted to kill someone near Rick Grimes character to impact the impact the fans. for ratings shock value they needed a big death character like Carl Grimes because the show is being plagued by low ratings for long. long now. but Carl's death was death was the AMC biggest mistake ever because the show lose millions of fans no only here in United states were the show lose more than 17, millions of fans and lose more than 20, millions of fans around the world were this show was the fans favorite tv series. Something like that was happens with Emily Kenney (Beth) they fired the her in season 5. after the actress asked for a little .more money just few weeks before her 18, birthday.s sane thing was happen with Chandler Riggs they fired him two weeks before his 18, birthday. So You wrong buddy it was not Chandler Riggs decision to leave the show it was their decision to kill his Carl Grimes character in season 8. the show worst lowest ratings season ever until now because season 9, is the show worst season so far. new rumours say that AMC is seriously considering to end "TWD" show soon in 2020 because the show low ratings and because the show is losing a lot of fans in every season since mid-season 5. but more because AMC is losing money with this show. actors Andrew Lincoln and Chandler Riggs confirm this news a year ago in separate interviews, they say "TWD" show is ending soon the show only have few seasons left but after the show this past low ratings season's i think that end us so near now :-) Denise C. Gordon a TV Show's Critic for Entertainment Weekly. ✍️

[@johnpatz8395]

That was when my wife lost interest in watching it, as we both love horror and zombie movies, but beating Glen the death with a bat, just after finding he was alive, was not only cheap, but it was done in a completely brutal and heartless manner, just to try and stir up controversy and sort of say “look how wild we are!”

[@levelzero8445]

For me, it died after Terminus. When they later found yet another "safe" haven I was so done. It was becoming just a misery spectacle, with little character growth and no hope for the future.

[@sterlingsilver5937]

True. It got to the point where there was nothing to really look forward to.

[@ryans413]

And they rushed the whole terminus thing it’s like the writers didn’t wanna deal with it

[@Jack-qu9tr]

Marco Sodano you really think they aren’t going to find a safe place after months of searching? wow...

[@alessandrocaioadornetto1909]

well the point of the series is to show the viewers a zombie apocalypse, building up to a newly rebuilt world after its downfall. They need to find a safe haven to do that, but in that world there is always threats. So yeah eventually they will die without a safe haven to rebuild the world, and if everyone just ends up dying and the show ends with no future, it would literally be a waste of time watching it.

[@gummypuss69]

Actually I think the Termites are some of the most fascinating and underrated villains in the franchise, and I wish they'd spent a bit more time on them than they did (like maybe the entire first half of Season 5 instead of the first two or three episodes).

[@Bigtrek34]

The Governors arch was the high point, and best part of the show. The show should've concluded by season 6.

[@TheMaineSurveyor]

Skipping season 4 would have been nice. The artsy episodes with lots of dialogue and almost no action were not enjoyable. They were supposed to be character-driven, but the characters weren't driven to do much but flap their gums. The entire purpose of a video production is so the writers can show, rather than tell. Don't tell us who the characters are; show us. I think the writers don't trust the audience to make the right conclusions, so they bog down the show with talk, talk, talk, talk.

[@nadinebrown7644]

I say they should have ended after Beth death and skipped the Alexandria garbage. 6 was horrible

[@jjron1722]

I think after they ended the Governor’s storyline, they thought of a few cool new things they could have added to him, so they made Negan

[@lostplaya8768]

JustAMaineiac I disagree i loved 4. 7 was the worst season for me

[@CurlyFromTheSwirly]

Bigtrek34, the only thing I can say about the gov is he was the ultimate evil bastard on the show. He outfought Rick (& Michonne had to save him). And everytime a bad guy comes along or someone makes a questionable decission they are compared to this (twd) archetype. If anything made battling him to best, it was because he was truly evil & needed to stopped.

[@miacaruana574]

This show truly died for me when Beth and Tyreese died one episode apart from one another. Their deaths showed me that storylines and character development were expendable and not a huge factor in Scott Gimple’s writing. I tuned in for the deaths of Abraham and Glenn as well as Carl, but missed everything in between. It became so monotonous and lacklustre. Huge shame, this show was so great.

[@HandlelessTML]

For me, TWD died when I realized the show was never going to answer any real questions like "how did this start?" and "how will things be fixed?" Once I realized the show was essentially a drama about humans living in a world with zombies and not humans trying to strive for something other than finding a place to live, I was pretty much over it. Them taking Eugene to Washington got me really excited because, finally, there was greater goal but once that fell apart and things went back to "find settlement, fight enemy", I lost hope. I didn't even realize Rick's last episode was his last episode until that season's finale and that's what really did it for me.

[@Glooks0]

It’s hard to explain, but there actually was a way of beating the apocalypse. It wasn’t through some magical cure. It was through outlasting and starving the zombies. No matter what, the world would eventually reach a point where the zombies would starve and grow far too weak and decayed. After that, society would slowly start to reform. Idk why you got so hooked to that ‘Eugene-to-Washington’ point in the story. Eventually after Negan and Beta/Alpha Rick and the others would find peace. Rick ultimately passing away and Carl telling stories of the adventures to his daughter- *atleast was what* would’ve been the plotline had Carl not been stupidly killed off.

[@denisegordon9225]

The Walking Dead without Rick and Without Carl is NOTHING!

[@gabrielherera2110]

Really

[@youngking5705]

Fake fan

[@richardchargingcloud6590]

coral*

[@Wat3rCoCk]

@AdamTheAtomical but then they added alpha so whats the problem?

[@purplepumpkin3772]

Glen was the heart of the show. He was the hope. they killed hope. I own every TWD comic, and even after offing glen in the comics they maintained hope somehow. In the show, if glen was still alive Id prolly still be watching. biggest mistake in television for the last decade imo.

[@haydeng3316]

nah, Carl's was the mistake

[@Sheffdawg2305]

Carl was the hope.

[@ghoula69]

Both were a mistake .. Glenn and Carl

[@gobblegobble7]

Alexander Sheffield well, with the time jump and that chick taking over as lead writer, the future hope will probably be Judith. Strong female characters are all the rage these days. I hope I’m wrong but considering the direction the series is heading...

[@Denzel_Greene]

Purple Pumpkin I agree, I honestly thought they sidestepped that issue when they revealed the Abraham was getting the bat. But I'd would've been fine with Glen's death had it not been right then and there. If he'd have been left alive, allowed to see the birth of his child, been within spitting distance of the peaceful life he was yearning for with the war coming to an end, but then he ,not Carl, died saving someone else, it would have been a great send off. He could have had his last words with Rick and Maggie at the same time, with Rick interpreting it as "make peace" and Maggie hearing them as "avenge me". That would have made a clash between Maggie and Rick hit harder with them both trying to honor his last wish in their own way, Rick doing so to make a future that will be peaceful for Glen's kid as well as his own, and Maggie aiming to eliminate all threats that could upset that peace by any means necessary.

[@denicecarlagordon3040]

Carl death was a wrong decision made for the very wrong reasons

[@randomytgamer1587]

Carl chose to leave to go to college.

[@dantecorrado2220]

Random YT Clips I think Scott fired him

[@Eternaldarkness3166]

they could have at least time-skipped Carl and re-cast him or something.

[@NicaMalfoy]

@@randomytgamer1587 he got fired, chandler riggs didn't leave the show, he bought a house near the taping place but then gimple cut him off because gimple is a shark he doesn't want to pay for a legal age teen guy due to low budget.

[@randomytgamer1587]

Dante Corrado Scott didn’t fire him...

[@musyrifo]

"i stopped watching the show when glenn died" that literally happened in the comics

[@kanemccarthy1979]

I think it was worse in the show because they faked his death not long before which made it feel cheap. In the comic it's an impactful, depressing and brutal scene. It should be all those things in the show but instead it feels manipulative

[@musyrifo]

@@kanemccarthy1979 yeah I can get behind faking his death, pretty dumb. But stopped watching because Glenn died when it's the most predictable choice is just... idiotic. Probably because of the whole 2 Lucille deaths made people hated it

[@kanemccarthy1979]

@@musyrifo yeah it was just a matter of the show executing the scene (and Glenn) poorly

[@mikeamber2528]

@@kanemccarthy1979 No, the show did Glenn's death extremely well. I think people stopped watching because Glenn in the show was a much better developed and likeable character than he was in the comics. Comic Glenn honestly felt like a background character at times.

[@Subject__]

daryl was supposed to die too dont get mad the eriters made a perfect character and he had tge worst shittiest death of the cast

[@DanteYewToob]

I think the show got knocked down when Glenn died, but had a chance, and it fully died.. took a bullet to the head when Carl did. Killing Carl proved that they were only interested in shock and awe, and that we wouldn't be getting the great story from the comics. At this point in the comic, Carl became a badass and had an amazing story ahead of him, and Chandler was finally 18 and old enough to film full time! But they killed him. To me, that was unforgivable and I haven't watched since. I was waiting for Carls story to pick up, and was excited when he turned 18! Especially after seeing his scenes with Negan and the saviors and seeing how his acting had greatly improved and looked forward to seeing him kick some ass.. Carl also represented a way to get the show back on track for me, that if they could just get Carl right, that maybe they could get other things right as well... I have to say that more than anything it made me lose all interest which is when a show truly dies in my opinion. Even boring show, an irritating show, or a show that drops in quality can still be watchable... Game of Thrones for instance, we all kept watching after the drop in quality. But TWD made me lose all interest in watching after Carls death, he was the last interesting character I gave a shit about.. Daryl has become a joke and is invincible, uhm.. Carol is boring now... uh... idk honestly I don't even remember who is still alive that I care about... father Gabriel maybe?... but nah.. and to me that is the worst offense a show can commit, is to make me ambivalent, or completely uninterested in what happens, to not even want to watch out of curiosity or loyalty. If I have to think _that_ hard about something I care about... a show is dead. R.I.P. TWD

[@laurendmaryriggs4511]

danteelite/ They kill Carl for ratings value because the show is being plagued by low ratings for long now and they needed a big death character in TWD someone near Rick Grimes character to impact the fans but Carl's death now change drastically everything in the show forever but no for good because Carl Grimes was the the world future hope as Rick Grimes only bloodline son and giving Carl best Storylines to Henry or Judith Who is no a part of the Grimes family because Rick Grimes is not little Judith's biological father was Shane is an Insult to the Fans is an Insult to the show and is an Insult to Chandler Riggs+Carl Grimes as an actor Who deserved better after he give his entire childhood to AMC and TWD show. Chandler Riggs father William Riggs think that they also Fired his son Chandler Riggs from the "The walking dead" show Two weeks before 18, birthday after they say they need Chandler for the show last 3, seasons because he wanted a little more money for his son Chandler Riggs because they suppose to pay him more after his 18, birthday and something like that was happen with Emily Kenney (Beth) they fired her from TWD show just week's before her 18, birthday but in Chandler Riggs case was more for ratings value and because AMC is losing money with this show that is no longer the #1 TV. show in ratings on sunday's nights when new season's start since mid-season 5, so because they losing money they desire to kill Carl at last in the mid-season 7 to die in season 8, without say anything to Chandler Riggs or his family because Chandler's contact in the show was for 3, years more but AMC needed that money that they suppose to pay to Chandler Riggs after his 18, birthday to have money for actor Jeffrey Dean Morgan to keep his Negan character in TWD for two years more and Carl's fans still so pissed off about it because Carl Grimes was the second most important character in TWD he play an extremely important part in the comics past present and future stories as Rick Grimes Only bloodline son and Killing him off was basically Killing the show future because Carl is the last survivor in the comics. and now all that is gone without happen in the show as well his great potential to beat the world like his dying mother Lori say to her beloved son Carl Grimes in her future view's for her son before she died in season 3. this show SUCKS as HELL they fucked up a great show when show with Carl's death and now is too far gone to fixed because is Completely ruined. the show now is like watching another stupid Zombie show on Syfy channel without a real story arc why? because what was make TWD show so special was the beautiful and unique relationship between a father and a Son, between Rick Grimes and his son Carl Grimes and the HEART of TWD series was Rick and Carl. Actor Norman Reedus say this after Carl's death and he was so direct in his comments against Amc and Scott Gimple he say this, when a show Writer destroy the relationship in the show between a father and a Son like in "Walking Dead" the show is over because the show Writer destroy. the show real arc center story, and for me the show original main key cast characters are the hardest ones of the show if the writer Kill this show main key characters them he lose the show and right now We don't have to many of this main key characters in TWD. and if the show Writer want to write for another show story then he can kill all them but if You want to still writing for the same show story ad the show Writer, be careful of what You doing with this main key characters in the show. Actor Norman Reedus (Daryl Dixon ) say in this comments in his Facebook page after Carl's death and he so Angry about it like Andrew Lincoln Too. heavy Walking Dead spoiler Movie idol was made a video about this actor Norman Reedus comments and he was totally agree with Reedus :-) Laurend M. Riggs a TV Show's Critic for Entertainment weekly.

[@bleach405]

The actor of Carl Grimes, wanted to be written off of the show.

[@DanteYewToob]

@@bleach405 No he didn't, he just bought a house right next to where they film, and decided to not go to college for 2 years to do acting full time. He was learning a lot from Andrew Lincoln and said he was excited to work full time finally and get to spend more time with Andy and Norman and learn more about acting. Also, his dad came straight out and said that killing him broke his heart, that he was depressed after it happened and his dad was really mad at the show because they gave him almost no notice and just did it without consulting him, and again... he just bought a HOUSE right near the set, and then they killed him off... seriously a dick move, they could've just said ... "Hey, maybe dont buy a house!" So Chandler Riggs obviously has to be professional, and say he agreed... because that's how showbiz works... but his dad told everyone the truth and when you look at the obvious stuff, like buying a house, putting off going to college, and talking about how excited he is to work fulltime with Andy Lincoln on social media... that shows that he had no idea they were going to do that, and he wasn't on board.

[@thehat222]

Laurend Mary Riggs Emily Kinney is 33 years old so unless this show is more 15 years old that’s not true.

[@Glixity]

Carl wanted to leave the show lol. The show runners didn't wanthim to die, Chandler put his entire childhood to this show and wanted to move on.

[@dennyii5292]

I agree, there was a time that I was *obsessed* with the show and would never miss it. But the constant death of main characters and long drawn-out story lines became tiring, as well as the same old repeating events. The death of Glenn did seem like a major turning point in the show, and for me. I no longer watch the show, and it doesn't phase me that I'm not watching it.

[@seanbonney5716]

Denny II me too! I had fan account and all! It was literally my life - but it just became so shit

[@XxMatth3wxX]

Carl being killed off ruined the show for me, and the comics just finished and the last two issues were incredibly disappointing too... sometimes these shows just can’t live up to the hype in the end just like GoT

[@denicecarlagordon3040]

Toxicity/Killing off Carl Grimes the second most important character in TWD story was the stupidest idea that has been done in TV History ever :) Denice C. Gordon a TV show's and Music Critic for Entertainment Weekly in this KZbin channel.

[@reeceburns8077]

I hated the final season to game of thrones but at least unlike the walking dead they had the decency to end it

[@NozzleDog07]

Denice Carla Gordon I think that they just did the actor dirty in his he exited the show

[@ethangalvao5440]

Except for breaking bad. Best finale of all time-undisputed

[@ObiNay]

Ethan Galvao I think breaking bad's ending is equal to mr robot

[@someguyfromarcticfreezer6854]

Carl was Rick's and Lori's motivation for going on and moving on to find him a safe-heaven. I can take Rich's death if Carl saved by his father. Story line will be more younger teenage alike series, lots of color(experience), challenges, but that motivation was killed. Story end and goodbye.

[@Jjangbunbun]

Judith? Michonne? The point is he still has family

[@K1NG0FW0LV35]

the day the walking dead died: *when carl got bitten*

[@paahtopro3950]

How come

[@K1NG0FW0LV35]

@@paahtopro3950 read the comics... Carl was meant to recieve a happy ending, have a family, etc.

[@ArcDevErik]

Died way before that.

[@noiminoimi1179]

@@paahtopro3950 how come ? Are you delusional the show was always about Rick and Carl

[@NozzleDog07]

THE CYBER WARRIOR they just did the actor dirty in the way he left the show. He was told that he was safe, but Gimple turn around and killed him off, right after he moved closer to set. The stories vary on the reason why. Some say it was a feud between Gimple and Krikman, other say it was because the actor was going off to college (but he went off to LA for acting afterwards) so I don’t know.

[@thomasmills339]

The entire negan storyline was horribly mishandled in every category.

[@ljforpresident912]

brian milligan how would you have written it?

[@denicecarlagordon3040]

brian milligan/For TV shows critics and for a lot of people specially former fans (Negan) and his boring sarcastic long comedy arc is the principal cause for TWD decline:) Denice Carla Gordon a TV Show and Music Critic for Entertainment Weekly in this KZbin channel.

[@Jack-qu9tr]

One word for you *GIMPLE*

[@mattthemetalguitarist]

The show would've been better without the whole Negan storyline

[@Flopped69]

Angela Kang would've done it a lot better. TWD has gone back up since she took over.

[@MrSmileeey]

To me, since Terminus and Gabriel's Church, I feel like the characters lost their initial "spirit" I don't know how to explain, but it seems like they are all different, since Alexandria the show has just stagnated, they all seem off, they don't have the same energy they had in other seasons. In Terminus, they were still POWERFULL but now, since Alexandria, it's like they lost it like they lost that drive they had, and now, with Negan the writers finally took everything away from them, made them completely weak.

[@futurestoryteller]

I think they might have been that way for longer than you think. The show is not interested in defining them as characters. It's much more abstract than that, they're just "the group," "Rick's people" or "survivors." I said it in a longer comment, they're basically interchangeable. They exhibit little to no sense of individuality. They've all become subtle variations on the same "personality." What little variation there is seems dictated by hierarchy and circumstance. If Maggie were in Rick's place there is no reason to believe Maggie's behavior would be overall different from Rick's, and so forth.

[@vicrattlehead6386]

And Negan basically is very weak character. Could have been killed easily on many occassions.

[@CurlyFromTheSwirly]

I thought once they got to Alexandria the show got a little stale. If needed somebody or something like Negan to shake things up. BUT NO, NEGAN IS NOT WEAK!

[@maxresdefault7047]

Season 1 of The Walking Dead is magnificent, one of the best television shows I have ever seen

[@jasonwistaff]

The seasons with the Governor was when TWD was at its best,imo.

[@tricko8000]

I agree, and the Governor/Prison arc was even better in the comic imo

[@girlidk2946]

Yeah. The Governor is the best villian from the show imo. That whole arc was perfect

[@tricko8000]

girlidk I would agree it was perfect if it had ended in S3 instead of dragging it another half season.

[@Aj01110]

1-4 were definitely the best, After that it just got tiring. I stopped halfway through 6 and I still haven’t finished the season and have no desire to.

[@imtoxiq_]

How is it that u can come to this conclusion 😂😂😂😂

[@andydoufreisn2973]

The sad part is the actors and actresses as well as the world they created in this show is perfection. The depressing part is the writers and the budget killed the show. Even I could have given a better angle than this

[@kyotheman69]

why i don't bother with the show i just read the comic

[@UsserError]

The writting really did goto shit... the directing seems different too.

[@tct8284]

True

[@davidedipaolo8640]

True. Season 1 looks like an oscar movie in comparison to now. So much better crafted and attention to detail. Now its just fucking bad.

[@RazzoClimhazzard]

So true. When great actors/actresses get the shaft because of bad writing it’s truly disheartening.

[@cowboy2631]

My only problem is that a single season only has content worth 4-5 episodes. But they spread this across 16 episodes. So nothing happens besides the first, mid season and final episode of each season. The show drags on boring and uninteresting plot lines, only rarely doing anything mildly interesting that furthers the plot. And then it pads that episode by another 4-5 filler episodes, making viewers wait till the end of the season once more. This shitty tactic wore me out. After season 7, i just couldn't take another dose of 12 filler episodes before seeing another repetitive plot line unfold. The show should have ended quickly, before it ran out of ideas. Problem is this exact pattern exists with many american television shows. Quality before quantity doesn't seem to something the studios have heard about. Oh how the might hath fallen

[@EntertainTheElk]

Completely agree. So many filler episodes where they just spin their wheels and nothing happens.

[@MrJk137]

This is why I stopped watching some episodes where just so boring

[@toocoolmomto2521]

AMC was greedy. That show is their money cow and they've milked it about 4 years too long. The cow is dry.

[@shadymercury]

You're wrong about Season 2. Season 2 was actually one of the show's best. It gave us a chance to focus on the SURVIVORS for a while w/out the thread of other humans. The zombies were still very dangerous at this time, & Rick's group looked & felt more like a family, even beyond Lori & Carl. I miss the vibe that the show had back then. I think Season 4 was really the beginning of the "end" for the original vibe of TWD. Also, Scott Gimple ran the show into the ground between seasons 7 -8. Negan held the show hostage for two seasons & was the most overhyped character this show has ever introduced. He never really paid for what the damage he caused, & I think it's ridiculous that viewers are now expected to somehow empathize with or root for this particular character. "Major character death" is just an attempt to grab ratings now, & the TWD franchise is bloated w/ a prequel that has lost it's way ever since the Clark family (save Alicia) was killed off, & "World Beyond", which has been boring af, even w/ the arrival of Jadis. Now that the comic itself has concluded, its definitely time for the main show to wrap it up.

[@CascdMorris]

Yup. It's repetitive. Survivor seek shelter, engage enemy. All the season. All the same. Only the bad character changed.

[@denicecarlagordon3040]

Mahdi Cascd/The show become a boring repetitive long soap opera with Zombies after the Governor's arc saga and after Carl's death and Andrew Lincoln depature this story is Over.

[@jjkilhij9531]

Mahdi Cascd You must not watch the show, the last time they “seeked shelter” was in season FIVE, we are going on season TEN now, the show is far from repetitive lol

[@fellowpassenger_54-67]

JJ Kilhij Yeah I don't know what you guys are talking about since the last time they have seeked shelter is season 5, everything after that is it's own original story structure

[@mikeamber2528]

Wrong

[@Munch.b0x]

I read this as soon as he said it lmak

[@mavseveneightnine7379]

Got boring when theyy found alexandria.

[@anatorres4926]

Yeah it took a lot of the edge out I liked it better when they had to keep surviving out there and not just on those supply runs.

[@Matheus21video]

@@anatorres4926 Yes...

[@youknowwho9203]

Exactly it was better when they had to eat dogs

[@salmasrac3351]

how many years has maggie been pregnant now?

[@EntertainTheElk]

Ha. Seriously.

[@dejohn8529]

She is still skinny asf.

[@peppermintpattie6006]

And still not showing her pregnancy

[@RaduGamingRO]

Do you think 8 years passes in TWD? Season 8 is like 3-4 days

[@salmasrac3351]

Carl sure grew up fast

[@omaiwashinderu5912]

6:25 No, this scene was well filmed. Seeing Glenn awkwardly approach his group with an issue and seeing them being ripped from their tranquil relaxed breakfast (also learning that they actually got together to have a quiet meal like that) was a treat to watch.

[@Liadara]

Reading people argue about TWD in the comments is more entertaining then watching the show.

[@twilightgardenspresentatio6384]

Liadara yup

[@EviltheNub]

I think the comic and the show should have ended when the group got to Alexandria. At that point they had survived everything the apocalypse could throw at them. Now it's just rehashing old storylines and killing characters for cheap shock value and cliche cruel irony.

[@EntertainTheElk]

Agreed!

[@metatechnologist]

Exactly. At that point the zombies were really no longer scary and could be dealt with rather easily. After that point, the story just started to wander aimlessly to the point where Negan arrived.

[@stevensteven3417]

Agree, they finally found a sanctuary (Alexandria) The End.

[@ArtsCollisionlnc]

Simple. Too many characters popping in and out of existence. Before we get to empathise they're already gone. Dead.

[@sylvan8385]

Glenn was really poppin. Ok not funny.

[@NokoFace]

COUGH DENISE COUGH Just as she was starting to shape up to be a pretty interesting character. NOPE. CAN'T HAVE THAT.

[@FxtrotOscrRmeoDelta]

I liked Beth’s arc. She was kinda like Carol. Completely different than when we first saw her on the farm. To an unsuspecting stick of dynamite in the hospital/police compound.

[@Momo-sh3dk]

ㅤRjay Just like Beth, Noah and other characters

[@granitemoss1451]

NokoFace, I was devastated when Denise died! She was becoming one of my favorite characters. Meanwhile, I couldn't have cared less that Carl died and actually felt a bit relieved when it was over and they couldn't drag that out any further.

[@theotherjared9824]

Franchises that have the whole "characters can die at any moment" gimmick ruin themselves if they don't fully commit. People watch to see which character dies next, and they lose interest if characters keep surviving against mounting odds. The real bullet to the foot is if a death gets faked out. The writers are saying that they can bring characters back from death if they wanted and any stakes that have been built up are instantly thrown out.

[@romylaudy6911]

Moral of this story is... Dont kill asian pizza guy.

[@a.rpradipta7662]

He died in comic book

[@Sheffdawg2305]

A.R Pradipta exactly. People are bitching about it straying too far away from the comics then they do something that happens in the comics and people are crying and complaining about it.

[@protoluigi2047]

Well really, the moral of the story is that either you end as a good show or live long enough to become a bad one.

[@randomytgamer1587]

You stole that quote.

[@bloodsling]

Glens death in the comic was more monumental and tragic than it was in the show,had they not jerked us around so many times with the idea of him dying it would have carried more weight. By the time he died in the show it was like "about time"

[@TheMelku_]

Yeah he had way too many close calls. I think there is a even a video about all of his close calls. And the dumpster scene was the stupidest thing ever. It really took away from his actual death.

[@JamesSucksAtGames]

The biggest thing about it in the comics is that it was what invigorated the remaining members to rally together to take down Negan. The show starts moving towards that, then BAM, Negan does something that sets their plans back. And then they do that again, and again, and again. Whereas in the comics, it was pretty cut-and-dried. Motivation, build-up/suspense, conclusion, move the fuck on. I'm alright with them padding the show to not overtake the comics, but the way they do it is fucking awful.

[@justsurvivesomehow9953]

I know right. Since his close call deaths I was like when will he die finally? Because I've had enough of his ridiculous plot armor

[@byrondavis9454]

Maaaagggiiiieeee!!! Not that bullshit ill find you crap😧

[@kenhernandez8128]

The Negan story arc killed the show. It brought the plot line to a screeching halt. Same episode every week for 2 seasons. And it killed off fan favorite characters. Just because it worked in the comic books, doesn't mean it will work on TV. And the end scene with Rick vs Negan was very dissappointing.

[@jessiemariemcrobertsriggsm3433]

They nailed the Governor character and completely ruined Negan He just comes off like a Joke for me., the show is a total disaster now Killing his main principal character's all the time and kept repeating itself and got boring.

[@jessiemariemcrobertsriggsm3433]

They nailed the Governor character and completely ruined Negan He just comes off like a Joke for Me. the show kept repeating itself, Killing fan's favorites and main characters all the time, is the same story over and over again with different actors faces but is always the same thing and got boring.

[@denisegordon9225]

Ken Hernandez/For TV shows critics Negan is the principal cause for "The Walking Dead* decline :-) Denise C. Gordon a TV. Show's Critic for Entertainment Weekly.

[@TyrJ2004]

I think it fully died when Andrew Lincoln left the show, I personally loved the negan/saviors arc and I was slowly starting to distance myself after the time jump

[@nafisahmed5408]

Absolutely,I mean what’s TWD without the Grimes.

[@salmam.n6013]

Oh yeah, I left when the time jump happened. Adios

[@N0va]

This show died when they thought they were more creative than the comics and started shitting on the source material

[@thecoldbrewking]

Facts

[@dxov1597]

What the fuck are you on about

[@ComicWriter-ml3qt]

Dee Brown some scenes really transitioned well in the show from the comic. Examples? Bicycle walker girl (with some neat sympathy from rick...kinda forced compared to the silent year filled reaction to his first walker kill in the comic but I’m willing to look past that because I enjoyed the moment and it fit ricks character, like what he did with the walker he gutted by checking his I.D and saying he will remember that person) Ricks “they find out speech” about the hunters to the group. Only difference is that they aren’t in a church and they are prisoners. Still badass. Ricks speech to Nicholas about taking back the community. When I heard Andrew Lincoln saying the names of the characters I swear to god my balls dropped. Now for moments that *SHOULD HAVE* transitioned well. Negans first appearance. It had some good stuff but way too much deaths. It was stupid and forced to kill both Glenn and Abraham in such a dumb way. I don’t care how hot headed Daryl is, he knew what would happen if he attacked negan. For fucks sake keeping Abraham alive could’ve been an interesting advantage given his military experience

[@ripwitch9833]

Dee Brown Both the creator and Rick's actor have stated they wanted Rick to lose his hand in the show so only limitations in making it look believable stopped them from doing it.

[@Logan912]

So, Season 1? Season 6 is still the closest, S7 is mostly the same with the exception of the garbage people and some events being in a different order, and Season 8 is mostly better than the comic version of All Out War honestly (with one exception. You know what I'm talking about, and no, it didn't ruin the show for me for several reasons.) And yes, I have re-read the comics recently.

[@Juliett-A]

Glenn is the moment I stopped watching, and it's also the moment everyone I know stopped watching.

[@denisegordon9225]

Glenn's death was so graphic and brutal but he was about die anyway hid death was in the comics but no Carl's death, they kill Carl Grimes the second most important character in TWD for show ratings value because the show is being plagued by low ratings for long and they needed a big death character in the show someone near Rick Grimes to impact the fans but Carl's death was basically Killing the show future because Carl was the world future hope as Rick Grimes only bloodline Son because Rick is not little Judith's biological father was Shane. after Carl's death AMC report the show worst lowest ratings ever in the story of this AMC Horor/Drama TV. series and the show lose more than 17, millions of fans here in United states only and lose more than 20, millions of fans around the world were this show was fans favorite tv. show. Glenn' was not the future in this apocalyptic world was Carl Grimes. Denise C. Gordon a TV. Show's Critic for Entertainment Weekly. ✍️

[@rorycooper237]

Denise Gordon RJ is ricks biological son

[@xoRexsGamingIL]

you dont stop watching a tv show with MAIN CHARACTERS just because ONE of them died..

[@salazarslite7180]

Glenn's death was the most predictable moment in the show since everybody was always talking about this moment from the comics for years. I've heard and read it dozens of times even though I've never read the comics. Also, every season had some kinda teases with his death. For example at Terminus, when he almost got killed with... guess what... a baseball bat. The show prepared you people years before it actually happened, but still everybody lost their minds. I am watching the series since 2012 and 7x01 was the best episode of the whole series to me. It was brutal and shocking, something that TWD has always wanted to be, but has rarely ever been. But I have to admit that the series got worse and worse after that, especially the second half of season 7 + whole season 8 was forgettable trash.

[@zzz7zzz9]

wow. glenn's death was a main part of the story/comics. it was literally just another scene in the storyline, always meant to happen. anyone who didn't know he was dying was pretty clueless. and the show is a zombie apocalypse, pretty silly to get too invested in any one character, especially to the point that you will stop watching if they die. odds are extremely high that pretty much every character created is going to die. it's a zombie apocalypse, not the godfather. it's purely mindless entertainment that you shut your brain off to while watching.

[@joeo4496]

Killing off both Glenn and Abraham at the same time: big mistake

[@laurendmaryriggs4511]

Joe O/ True but the AMC and show runners biggest mistake ever including Angela Kang was Killing off Carl Grimes the second most important character in 'TWD" and that's why season 8, started and finish with the worst show Lowest ratings in the History of this AMC TV. series franchise since season one. after Carl's death the show lose more than 10. Millions of fan's here in United States only and lose more than 50. millions of fan's around the world too bad for a show like this and now the show just started one of the last season's of the show season 9, With the worst lowest ratings open premier ever :) Lauren M. Riggs a TV. Shows Critic and also actor Chandler Riggs+ Carl Grimes cousin. Ps. Andrew Lincoln leaving has a lot to do with the stupid decision to Kill Carl ✍️

[@filazkeita2272]

Laurend Mary Riggs I see you on every twd comment section repeating the same thing over and over, take a break dude. After the death of governor carl became a irrelevant character so his death is not really a big deal and was needed to spare Negan life and the other Saviors

[@UnrealHighlights]

Carl was extremely important later on after the time jump Filaz, he played an enormous role in the storylines to come and they've basically nuked any idea of them happening by pointlessly killing him off because he "tripped" over a tree stump and got bitten despite surviving so much more in the past. His death was outright lazy and purely a ratings stunt which worked for one whole episode. Andrew Lincoln's acting is pretty much the only redeeming factor of Carl's death scene.

[@thatoneperson9241]

In the comics glen was suppose to die instead of abraham and abraham was suppose to get the arrow through his eye not the useless nurse girl

[@TaniksCaesar]

Killing Abraham at all was a big mistake

[@dctrmercury5245]

Frankly, Negan is one of my favourite characters, and favourite villains next to The Governor, and it sucks that the show began to decline when he came in. He brings life to the episodes he's in. I always felt on edge whenever he was on screen. Jeffery Dean Morgan is an incredibly talented actor, but the writers did the character a little dirty later on in the series which is what lost me.

[@MangaGamified]

Like Murphy's Law: What will happen, will happen. So eventually one out of like 40* billion people in earth's history will eventually like Negan from TWD's nearly 8* years of running.

[@jacobgaysawyer337]

@@MangaGamified yep, I was also shocked xD

[@jacobgaysawyer337]

a human with any amount of logic in their head and an ability to connect with stories and understand things, wouldnt like negan. but you do so..

[@gianni206]

Story wise, Season 1, 3, and 4 are the best. Action wise, Season 6. Love Negan, but there’s still a lot to be desired from the actual story.

[@computeraddict4993]

season 2 > all

[@sam_rimmer16]

I think that the best part of The Walking Dead was when they were on the road before they found Alexandria

[@WarIsntOver]

I agree 100%, seasons 1 and 3, 4, and 6 were all very well done in my opinion. 7 and 8 are trash, 2 was boring, but had it's moments.

[@dimitrescu182]

1>4b>4a>6a>5a>3>6b>5b>2, 8a, and the entire 7th season

[@joshcooper9043]

Computer Addict season 2 was ded boring

[@LolFishFail]

I stopped watching the Walking Dead when I couldn't suspend my disbelief any more with the Neegan conflict. The beginning of this season they talk about storming the Saviors... Neagan is out in the open with his Lieutenants for ages giving a bloviating speech Ricks group had rifles, Not one person took the shot when they explicitly said that was the plan. I lost interest and haven't watched it since. It felt artificial at that point and not how people would act. Also, it's the zombie apocalypse, manufacturing has ground to a halt. Yet every single one of them has some military grade weapons and infinite ammunition. Ammo goes bad after years of proper storage, never mind being exposed to the elements. Guns rust, parts jam etc... Yet all of them have pristine weaponry which you never see them scavenge or fix. So much potential wasted.

[@WHJeffB]

Yup... Right there with you GwM on both points. The show has also become predictable and formulaic. Every episode has at least one "gross out" zombie/gore special effect. Plot holes galore. Obvious "Plot armor", with situations where "armored" characters would/should have been dead many times over...Sad really... Been a fan of the show since Ep1 S1. Even liked all of S2 & S3. Even with some small redemption over the last few episodes (they've been a little better of late), the show has gotten nearly unwatchable. That said, I'll hold out at least through the end of this season. But beyond that is questionable.

[@melostmo]

GwM - exactly - the Rickys are all standing there with rifles about what 30 yds away, with Negan right out in the open ,, I mean c'mon are these writers friggin kidding ?

[@1234Cheesus]

And not forgetting just before that scene they killed two guards on top of the building with pinpoint accuracy. The firefights in it are awful, constant barrage of bullets next to no deaths, unlimited ammo. Just stupidity and lacklustre writing. I want Netflix to get into the Zombie genre, I want to see a darker version of The Walking Dead, maybe with 28 Days Later type zombies!

[@MonsterDeplorable]

George yea it’s sad that SOMEHOW A thousand different directors obtain funds to create some shitshow zombie “film” but NOBODY knows how to make a real zombie movie?? Wtf. On Netflix, there are mounds of horror movies; zombie ones especially and they are outright ludicrous. Unwatchable. I mean come on, did Romero not have a protege or someone to follow in his footsteps??? I’d love to see a “good” zombie film, but I’m beginning to think the time has passed....

[@1234Cheesus]

Brandon Westbrook I meant more a Netflix Original Series taking on the zombie genre, Neflix shows tend to be really good! Have you seen Van Helsing (Tv show) on Netflix? Albeit it’s vampires, but it’s good post apocalyptic show! I also really like The 100! These might fulfil your desire for a good zombie movie/show, even though they’re not zombies! Haha

[@dcwatcher4644]

The day the walking dead died was yesterday when it was announced Rick will be leaving

[@EntertainTheElk]

Yep!

[@mwur6190]

Even the actor of the protagonist is gone?! Well RIP .

[@Furkward]

So who will be the main character

[@blakeukbass]

Daryl

[@245-TRIOXIN]

Agreed. No Rick Grimes, no show. They should have ended with Rick killing Negan. Who cares about the walking dead series without its central character.

[@carterdahl9654]

Even after the show went downhill, Negan was always a highlight

[@shadymercury]

no, he hasn't always been a highlight. he never was. He was the most over hyped character on the show, & he held the show hostage for 2 seasons. he's never really had to pay for the damage he caused, & now viewers are expected to empathize with him? Not me. I don't root for monsters. The show lost it's way & it's soul w/ the deaths of Glenn & Carl, & the departures of Rick & Michonne.

[@PretzelSage]

​@@shadymercury keep crying

[@soumen66]

@@shadymercury the show lost its glory bcoz of the writers dude, not bc of Negan🙄 They fired Carl's actor Chandler Riggs just bc he was about to turn 18 & they had to pay him more money. Soon after Rick left. Negan is the only most interesting & loved character left besides Daryl, Maggie, Carol & a few others. Believe it or not

[@MichaelJohnson-kx3ln]

Negan talks to the Glenn & Abraham bones.

[@deltathedummy2303]

its ironic how a zombie survival show is basically a zombie at this point

[@laurendmaryriggs4511]

PKfire/ Yeah! the show is basically "The walking dead" itself now is a boring repetitive Soap opera, nothing change only for the worse the writing still terrible and the directing is also terrible and the show lost its purpose when they Kill Carl Grimes for ratings value because the show is being plagued by low ratings for long:)

[@cajfaj]

I too read the top comment

[@savharris5702]

If no one else has said it... ... This went haywire after The Governor/Prison run.

[@masonmccarthy9057]

Sav Harris true I honestly couldn't continue watching after that portion. It was impossible to press next episode.

[@Chloroform0]

Sav Harris I personally love season 4, but after that it's really inconsistent and the cast got way too big

[@Lowkeyreformed]

for me the show died when abraham and glenn were killed

[@mikeamber2528]

The show never died

[@Wat3rCoCk]

@@mikeamber2528 same i still love it

[@xboy6013]

@@mikeamber2528 true and people who said the show has died are idiots

[@nategarver7643]

How did it die after Abraham and Glenn died? Everybody dies at some point. Even Kirkman said that.

[@xboy6013]

@@nategarver7643 give me the link of that interview

[@NASkeywest]

Really is amazing how I went from 4 seasons of catching every episode to just not watching a single second