The Dead Six - Command and Conquer - Tiberium Lore

[@frostburn3736]

*_"Conflict of interest? Heh, I have interest in conflict!"_* Best qoute of the game. I remember this to this day. Havoc was a smartguy, but got skills and brawn to back it up.

[@KhanWolf95]

Another fun one for Havoc I like: NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED! "Congrats kids, we rank as a nuclear threat, you know the drill, get out there!"

[@louievelayo4100]

I prefer... "Evolve me? No thanks, I like being a caveman."

[@kippies66]

Gunner: "A chimpanzee could do that, mate!" Havoc: "Yeah... but you'll do fine."

[@TheArklyte]

Remember how a single commando can ruin a match for someone? Yeah, now imagine 6 of them...

[@TheMjohann]

Nod:"Oh hell no! Prep a nuclear missile, we need these gone NOW!"

[@rogankane6901]

@@TheMjohann Havoc: "Congrats kids, We have been labeled as Nuclear threat, you know the drill, Get out there!"

[@yuritopoop]

...coming from APC or Chinook that you've missed, right behind of your Yard. OOPS :D

[@skyvipers]

*Nuclear Launch Detected* "Congrats kids, we rank as a nuclear threat"

[@a2rgaming863]

It is the best rank ever created.

[@cjeromet1971]

Dr White? Noice

[@yuritopoop]

And then Havoc will work under high pressure, against the entire nod dispatched team, and with critical radiation level... "What a day."

[@patrik9328]

This is something i didnt expect C&C Renegade lore video, nice

[@GaryDeeks]

Not gonna lie, i didn't expect a video about Dead six, good work, as usual.

[@shaftoe195]

I can almost hear general Locke yelling at Havoc in the distance...

[@TheOneZytel]

"If he survives, I'll pin a medal on him. Then I'll have him shot!"

[@blackops9operation75]

Oh Havoc, you are wasting his patience.

[@combinecommando001]

Havoc finds himself vindicated in his beliefs that decommissioning the Mammoth Mk.2 and the Walker tanks were big mistakes from the GDI. As even the GDI later admits that the walkers would have proved far more effective against the Scrin than what they currently had. While Tiberium eradication and abatement is indeed important, defunding their military assets was a major mistake for as long as NOD exists in some form, they will always be a threat as NOD cannot exist without Kane.

[@marley7868]

yeah C&C 4 needs them just MK2 cause the first time was already perfect

[@sonicslv6132]

Nah as GDI fans, I think Mammoth Mk3 is the correct decision. Mk2 might be more powerful individually, but the prohibitive cost and slowness is too big of disadvantage. It can't even fight effectively since the weapons are locked forward except the miniscule machine gun turret on the chin. Mk3 while a bit weaker still packs powerful punch especially after upgraded with rail guns and can be deployed en masse, making them much more effective force in the field. Their guns also back in turret now which makes them less vulnerable of being surrounded or ambushed. Besides at the end of the 3rd war, we get much better design that should be Mk2 in the first place: MARV.

[@marley7868]

@@sonicslv6132 agree to disagree you have a good day

[@combinecommando001]

@@sonicslv6132 That's why you complement it with Titans and Wolverines. Sending in a mammoth by itself is stupid. Let alone through the front gate.

[@sonicslv6132]

@@combinecommando001 Except forgoing the mammoth and using the funds for more titans and wolverine is much better tactic with much better flexibility without sacrificing firepower. The only lacking things is the Mammoth tusk AA missiles which won't really affecting anything considering it's only a pair with quite slow rate of fire. Mammoth Mk3 on the other hand, you can field a squad of them and they will tear through almost anything especially after the railgun upgrades. Mammoth Mk2 is bad combat vehicle. It's only value is only as an icon in the battlefield. Something that a squad of Mammoth Mk3 is still pretty good at and MARV is doing it much better and actually useful.

[@caseyjones5326]

I always wanted so much more from this series. Renegade was the Starcraft Ghost we never saw make the finish line..but I wanted moar

[@generalzapp548]

After watching: now I’m sad we’ll never see renegade 2. Here’s to hoping renegade X is able to take off soon!

[@josephahner3031]

Renegade X is complete. Totem arts is working on a sequel already

[@tea-sus8722]

Renegade X?

[@josephahner3031]

@@tea-sus8722 a remake of C&C Renegade in the Unreal Engine.

[@generalzapp548]

@@tea-sus8722 yeah its a fan project remake of the classic renegade multiplayer sandbox but with more modern features and graphics made on the Unreal engine. its free too

[@TheLegend-kf8cw]

Renegade X has been going on for years. It really is as a worthy remaster of Renegade multiplayer

[@l0rf]

You're doing the Prophet's work here providing quality content for C&C

[@RedScorpion92]

New C&C lore video Keep em coming

[@pixal1250]

Forgot how much I liked your videos! :D

[@denizsakar335]

Another excellent video, keep up the good work man we love yoy

[@lcoop9351]

👍🏻

[@ionutmaricuta958]

Amazing work jethild!

[@lcoop9351]

👍🏻

[@blackharpy7468]

Dude, you are magnificent. I never thought of this idea.

[@VaciliNikoMavich]

I like to imagine the rest of the former Zead Six still operate, but just as solo agents, like Havoc.

[@Kaiju-Driver]

What a cool video it's obscure loer like this that keeps me a fan

[@blackops9operation75]

0:08 Eva, analysis Dead 6 background.

[@kombatkid7449]

Sup new fan here , like your content bro . Wish they would bring Kane back and somehow reboot the series to something innovated,familiar , yet still the same great game we know ☹️

[@tanostrelok2323]

I would be nice if they made another game after Kane's Wrath...

[@Rellana1]

I still wish we had the full Scrin invasion mentioned at the end of kane's Wrath.

[@mrtee3988]

@@tanostrelok2323 Red Alert 3 is awesome...

[@tanostrelok2323]

@@mrtee3988 RA3 is trash, if I wanted to play something like Starcraft I'd just play Starcraft

[@joshuablade6974]

Great video as always! And glad to see C&C: Renegade getting your attention even if its just about Havoc. Looking forward to what you make next Commander/General! Oh and please tell me you're NOT gonna talk about Tib 4? We don't need to even remember that it existed. '^^

[@LINJ638]

Keep them coming!!!! Now do a NOD/GDI leadership in Tiberium Dawn, TS and FS next.

[@pinkaargyle3334]

I always wondered bout that, good video!

[@arturohernandez5857]

Thanks for information ℹ️ love it thanks 🙏

[@commandodante13]

Sakura was Undercover Agent on NOD, on the game is self was tell Sakura was infiltrating and feeding GDI important intel..... she must attac Nick Parker to made sure her not blow, typical Deep Undercover mission. Mammoth Mark 2 rename as Mastaddon, you can use it on Assault Class MCV Level 3.

[@josephahner3031]

What game is that in? I've never heard of the mastodon or different classes of MCV before.

[@commandodante13]

@@josephahner3031 CnC Tiberium Twilight????the worse gameplay ever on CnC Tiverium Saga.....

[@ktwei]

Please do Supreme Commander.

[@factfiend1000]

I think a video comparing commanders in the different games might be a unique video. Example: In Tib3, was the GDI or Nod commander better in battle?

[@Darkdaej]

The Nod Commander first benefits from the element of surprise, making things quick and simple, but given how complex later operations are he's quite flexible and adapts to the situation quickly. Nod's advantage is the simplified command structure all leading to Kane making the important decisions. The GDI commander is stuck mopping up the mess for most of the game and is always on the back foot, despite his supposed superior equipment. All thanks to idiots downgrading Nod's threat level and the chaos of the Philadelphia's destruction. Personally I'd give the win to the GDI commander given how bad the situation is in most of his operations.

[@factfiend1000]

@@Darkdaej The Nod commander was also extremely experienced from previous combat operations: Jericho, Honduras and The Rio Insurrection. He was also pretty well known among the Nod hierarchy. He also had pretty good combat experience in game. He battled multiple GDI commanders, Alexa Kovacs and Killian Qatar. This even includes battling several Visitor units.

[@Hunter-ze3my]

@@factfiend1000 The previous experience mentioned was LEGION, not the Nod commander, as it was from the Kane's Wrath expansion

[@factfiend1000]

@@Hunter-ze3my He did face Alexa in Tib3. In the expansion, we learn that Alexa took command of the Nod forces while LEGION stole the ion disruption tech data.

[@josephahner3031]

@@Hunter-ze3my the NOD commander in TW was one of the militants that participated in the Rio Insurrection under LEGION.

[@red-silver5521]

Great vid!

[@lcoop9351]

👍🏻

[@emilysmite9356]

I love coming back to your video's of this old game series. Wish a new good one would come out

[@LuoSon312_G8]

there was a hilarious fan reaction to Tripwire, that was mentioned a while ago. this was the late 90's and people first favorite game gal was Lara Croft, but compared to the ladies of C&C:Renegade, Tripwire stood above them for one reason. the Devs gave her polygons and physics. look hard, you'll see it.

[@varlmorgaine3700]

Loved the game, the multiplayer was so much fun :D

[@mauriciocalderon829]

Commandos in CNC1: what facction i help in this mision? Commandos in CnCrenegate: GDI created a special team. Comandos in CNC2: they were replaced for the mutans. Comandos in CNC3: the nod start train comandos. But the information data about they have bug in the game.

[@marley7868]

all female pirate style for nod and 99& failure rate for gdi training

[@orben-amos6172]

fan fact in C&C 3 TW there is a map called dead six.

[@Plank_Hill]

I don't know if it was intentional or not, but we skipped over the billboards featuring Dead Six members that show up in C&C3. It would seem that they were still around at time, getting up to some sort of antics.

[@Groza_Dallocort]

They are quite old by 2047 and Havoc have been promoted to Colonel

[@Jethild]

I thought those billboards were just easter eggs. Or I guess you could say they are propaganda for GDI. As Groza pointed out, all the team would be quite old by the time the of the Third Tiberium War, so they'd either be in high ranking command positions within the organization or would have retired.

[@lekhaclam87]

Maybe the team is still active but the original members retired or stayed as supervisors and new ones are recruited. A squad-based Dead Six RTS would have been cool.

[@45580677]

Nicely done

[@dochmbi]

Thanks for this!

[@blackops9operation75]

7:03 You are in so much trouble Parker, I will put you in court martial for that.

[@Marinealver]

So just wondering have you tried the Single Player RenegadeX Black Dawn? It is a little funky to set up as you have to keep it separate from the RenegadeX(multiplayer) files.

[@canon07]

Real tough guy.

[@NFHAVOC]

nice video keep em coming i typed that left handed

[@brothers_of_nod]

Never did play renegade, though I quite appreciate your lore on them.

[@gdicommando4456]

This almost turned into a commando video

[@configerror8596]

good job youtube alerts, completely missed this one.

[@louievelayo4100]

8:35 Yeah, working in a solo capacity and kept in a *VERY SHORT* leash... And holding that leash is Havoc's no nonsense, but slightly tolerant supervisor, Brigadier General Adam Locke...

[@Kaiber_Phoenix]

I really wish they either remasterd renagade or ported it to console

[@popattara]

yes i love it !

[@generalzapp548]

This is my comment at the beginning of the vid: I’m excited

[@peterchauvin1486]

One of these on slavic or macneil would be dope

[@LINJ638]

Where are they going to get the information to do a bio on these two????

[@peterchauvin1486]

@@LINJ638 TS, idk

[@GamingHistory.]

I've got a present for ya

[@MarqFJA87]

I really wish that they had given some examples of the kind of wet work that GDI needed to fake the deaths of the Dead Six for plausible deniability; as it stands, nothing that Havoc or any of the others are shown or mentioned to do is anywhere near sensitive enough for GDI to deny any responsibility for. BTW, the subtitles have errors: 2:34 "Dariel" should be "Daneil" 6:04 "formally" should be "formerly"

[@karljohan2300]

god i loved commandos voicelines

[@NotceDragon]

Love c&c renegade. Me and my brother use to play it all the time as kids even the practice multi-player (wasn't allowed in the internet lol). Was really disappointed that EA screwed up not only C&C 4 but also canceled the fps tiberium. Really wanted to play that. Me and my brother always had a Wishful thought that they come out with another c&c fps shooter but I hoped for one where you could play as nod and my brother wanted a red alert 2 version lol

[@janoycresva919]

CC forever

[@GoldKingsMan]

Was just thinking of the Commando the other day..

[@zakiducky]

Huh, I used to live very near to Allentown lol

[@Stribog1337]

“The Mark II was and continues to be one of our most powerful tools in the war against Nod fanaticism. This discontinuation is nothing but another disgusting example of GDI bureaucratic penny pinching and namby pamby 'can’t we all get along' liberalism... once again, GDI is playing right into Kane’s hands” -Jordan Peterson

[@TricksterPoi]

That literally bite GDI in the back in the 3rd TW

[@OzgeKatip]

The repair gun could be used for healing other players? Whaaaaaaat

[@louievelayo4100]

Only the ones used by Hotwire(GDI) and the Technician(Nod)...

[@blackops9operation75]

6:40 Codename: Havoc or should I call him, "The Troublemaker."

[@cast5439]

will you be doing supreme comander ? it would be cool

[@blagojpejov4155]

One commando is enough but try and face six of them and you will lose

[@thedoctor2102]

Are you able to get info on where’s the ramjet rifle came from?

[@Bluberyline827]

weird idea. can you do lore on 8 bit armies and its sequels? they are bassically a spiritual successor to c&c(and made by petroglyph the devs of c&c). bassically i want you to talk about the campaign and the units.

[@xGoodOldSmurfehx]

Uhhh, whoops? Sakura was revealed to be a double-agent for GDI inside NOD's black hand Let that detail slip, eh?

[@trickster20644]

God, this makes me really want to play Renegade again.

[@mrrobertwolfiii1079]

Code named an well worth the real time simulation, greatly heroic and work well with the united States civilian Mr Robert WolfIII thanks for your good work's team six we did make it legally and all paid and all backed up on network. Went to two academy's and one university to be rated in real life certified Nursing Assistant and phlebotomist, with education back ground we were educationally qualified for all of team six. We did complete as far as we are able at this time enjoy the remainder of your life's. Thanks gunny meet with you in Washington State. March 27th 2023, enjoy the rest of your life's, I will try to. We are all done with our parts with this electronic arts book. Appreciate you and all person's who where on this project. We saved a lot.

[@big_mack0]

There is a mistake. The german counter terrorism forces are called GSG9 not GS9. Best regards

[@SpaceReptilioid]

It's GSG 9, 5:11, just to let you know.

[@TheDemigans]

It would have been awesome if you mixed some Renegade X and Firestorm footage in. Or is that not allowed?

[@Jethild]

I don't think it's not allowed, I just prefer to use footage from the original game.

[@TheDemigans]

@@Jethild that is definitely your choice as creator. But it might help younger people who arent as used to so few polygons to connect as well.

[@Stribog1337]

13:07 Havoc looks like Dave Bautista doesn’t he?

[@canon07]

Hey jedthild can you make about the nod buggy and attack bike?

[@Jethild]

Yeah it's on the list. Just don't know when I'll get around to it.

[@LINJ638]

Do a history of the evolution of the Temple of NOD, recon vehicles such as attack cycle and dune buggy next. And where are my spaceborne stations and vehicles!?!?!?

[@phoenixboyz]

We need remake / Remastered of Renegade

[@ROZPIERDALATOR_R]

see you in game 😉

[@gundam2jimmy]

GDI Navy video?

[@asddasdasdasdadsa]

5:15 it's the GSG 9 but nice video

[@Archont_]

Shame there wasn't campaign for Nod commando

[@connorwalsh7033]

I may not like nod but I love g.d.i commandos.

[@MMaster1397]

Nice video as always. Wouldn't mind EA picking up a follow up game to renegade. Be it serious or goofy like its original.

[@JC-ig4oy]

There was going to be a Renegade 2, but it was cancelled by EA in 2003 so it wouldn't conflict with Battlefield 1942's sales.

[@MMaster1397]

@@JC-ig4oy classic EA. Abandoning any original idea for anything that would make them money but was boring and mundane. Well that or take anything unique and grind it so hard into mediocrity that it losses what made up its appeal. Id maybe give them some chances with the CnC franchise if they continue to allow petroglyph to develope the games

[@josephahner3031]

The original was a perfect blend of serious and goofy. This blend is what made C&C so awesome to begin with.

[@MMaster1397]

@Dick Trickle I wouldnt mind either, just as long as it isnt boring OR filled with EA scum Microtransactions. C&C needs positive reception so we may get a Remastered of the 2nd generation C&C Westwood games

[@shakenbakejake25]

So they had a chance to bring the dead 6 back for CNC3 and they didn't? I get that the timeline doesn't workout too well but there's a lot of timeline inconsistencies in CNC.

[@Jethild]

There is. Renegade itself is pretty notorious for setting the date of the First Tiberium War at 2019, when before it was implied to be set at the turn of the 20th century. So 1999/2000 area. Plus the infantry weapons and equipment used in the game are more advanced compared to the ones used in Tiberian Dawn, even though both games take place during the same war. I've always thought there should have been some kind of official lore book for the CnC series to sort out all the inconsistencies. Though I highly doubt such a thing would ever get made, since EA doesn't seem to really care about it much.

[@shakenbakejake25]

@@Jethild sadly you’re right. I’ve been hoping for Renegade 2 for more than a decade now. EA could make so much off of this franchise if they just made some community friendly decisions and listened to the people who plays CnC

[@lekhaclam87]

@@shakenbakejake25 I heard that the canceled sequel was supposed to take place in the Red Alert universe or something.

[@sonicslv6132]

@@Jethild Yeah I think their biggest mistake is putting Renegade at the same time as first TibWar. The story makes much more sense if it framed as sometime between the first and second war and they can put hints of nod starting tiberium infusion tech (which already in the game) and human cybernetics which become cyborgs while GDI start experimenting with hovering techs (walkers might be too much extra work for the game engine). I think they really want to give the scene of the first mission base in CnC transitioning from the screen into 3D which admittedly very exciting but it compromised the timeline. They could fix that by simple time skip after first mission though, although 20 years time skip probably too much.

[@Jethild]

@@sonicslv6132 The issue with putting Renegade's story between the First and Second Tib War, is Havoc's interactions with Kane. Havoc isn't at all surprised that Kane is alive, and doesn't tell anyone else that he is either. So it would contradict GDI being surprised that Kane is alive at the beginning of Tiberian Sun. So in order to make that work, Westwood would of had to not have Kane in Renegade at all, or at least, not be so overt about it. Maybe having some hints in some of the levels of his existence would of been fine, but never having Havoc actually interact with him directly.

[@genx589x]

holy shit i never noticed the statues

[@derekmeador1994]

This is literally Noble Team of C&C 😂💪🏻💪🏻

[@deusmediaworks515]

I wish their was a a tf2 version of c&c after watching this

[@EpicThe112]

I can probably see them continue with the storyline this time console capable. On Disk form the sequel if made $60 for PS5 Xbox Series X possibly PC. Standard controls will use battlefield 2042 settings

[@weavernutz22]

Welp, havoc was a Marine, rah!!!

[@mrrobertwolfiii1079]

Microcomputing operating system worked.

[@realah3001]

You’re gonna fight the whole crew yourself? It don’t seem fair does it? Perhaps I’ll shot left handed

[@tea-sus8722]

Dear god, havoc became c&c alex jones

[@MPKb19]

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[@lcoop9351]

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[@ccompson2]

it's not GS9 it's GSG9

[@Jethild]

That bit of info comes directly from Patch's description in Renegade. It explicitly says "GS9," so I was just quoting what was in the game. Though you're right that it probably should of been GSG9.

[@ccompson2]

@@Jethild I think gs9 is actually a gang

[@Beleidigen-ist-Pflicht]

Y'know, NOD wouldn't have þis much charm if GDI just kept a heroic "saviours" image, wiþ þe deaþ six and Mark Shepherd instead devolving into a bureaucratic monster, wiþ generic good guy busywork, what a shame, really!

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