The Dead Smartphone Tier List

[@Frozty]

I said it back on the original video and I stick by my original statement. The LG Wing could have been the worlds greatest gameboy emulator.

[@naveenraj6984]

You actually did huh !

[@blueasis]

why gameboy? you mean DS?

[@shepardice3775]

​@@blueasisThe controls on the bottom, the screen on the top. Would be good for DS too though

[@Frozty]

@@blueasis Any of them, really! For older gameboy games, just having a full screen up top to show the game, and then controls down below would be wonderful. Then yeah for DS stuff the bottom screen could be utilized like a DS does. Would kinda ruin the idea of controls below though, so would take some specific developing.

[@Frozty]

@@naveenraj6984 I would never tell a lie on the internet. You get caught too fast lol

[@elfketchup]

The LG Wing should have been S-tier, and it was proof that, even in LG's final moments as a phone company, they could still release genuinely interesting and hilariously wacky phones... I really miss that kind of thing now. 😔

[@Ahmed14084]

Yeah, LG used to make great phones The first LG phone I owned was a G3, 2k display, (used to flex with it 😎😂) 13MP camera with laser AF, 3GB ram 64GB storage and Best 32bit processor SD 801. Rooting, custom roms support was also great. That phone was so good that I bought 3 of them for my family.

[@gokublack316]

If this thing came out today you wouldn't buy it

[@RyanZirnheld11]

But you didn’t buy it when it came out like the rest of us lol

[@IceBlueLugia]

You didn’t buy it, just like most people. They’re a business and they don’t just spend on R&D and production for shits and giggles on a KZbin video

[@superiortoall22]

@@Ahmed14084no they didn’t they made different phones but they weren’t great. I saw the review on this phone and it was hilariously bad for a $1k phone

[@deltasigma2599]

Still an LG Wing owner. Coming up to year 4. Battery life is awesome, replaced the back glass once myself with ease, use gimbal mode on holidays, and constantly use T mode for emails. I love my wing!

[@prokoper21]

That's really cool, I had LG g4 back than and it was amazing phone as well

[@JasonTremblay-p7z]

i used an lg wing until last year, i got an s10e because the wing has connectivity issues in my area and im getting an iphone 13 soon

[@poluticon]

I’m sorry

[@Poemwriter_Angelo]

the last LG phone user out there. LG actually did a lot for the smartphone world. i thought it invented laser auto focus. but they gave up on that on the next phone while other brands copied and perfected that technology.

[@Draggo.]

@@Poemwriter_Angelo Not to mention they kept audio jacks until the end, and had some of the best ones you could get in a phone. Also believe mostly they kept expandable storage too which was really helpful for me before I realized opus was a thing, as I loved to have all my phsically downloaded music on my phone.

[@josephdechavez8876]

The Lumia 1020 started pixel binning, and the large camera island. Camera quality was better than the competition for years to come. You can crop after the shot and still go back to the full shot. S tier.

[@Saul-oy3xd]

Actually it was the Nokia 880 purevie the one that started the pixel binning thing.

[@josephdechavez8876]

@@Saul-oy3xd actually yes, that was a beast. I didn't catch one though. Hard to find.

[@grdprojekt]

Wait, iirc the 1020 didn't pixel bin? It was a true 41 mp sensor in it. Or am I tripping and thinking about Sony's 23 mp being the true, highest resolution phone camera sensor.

[@josephdechavez8876]

@@grdprojekt With the 1020, you can choose from a) ~34MP or ~38MP full resolution images, b) 5MP binned images, or c) both binned and full res images. The 5MP setting shoots faster than the other options with the third option taking more than 10 seconds to take the next shot.

[@Tiaan90]

Nokia crushed the phone camera game on multiple occasions. First time with the N93 in 06, 3.15 MP and 3x optical zoom, used as a camcorder. Then again with the 808 PureView in 2012, 41 MP (38 MP effective), 4x lossless digital zoom. And the 1020 in 2013, still 41 MP and 4x lossless digital zoom, but executed better.

[@blodhthringa]

The best thing the LG Wing form factor was the comfort of holding it while watching videos in landscape, plus you could text on the bottom screen without interrupting your video.

[@possessorofgreatness7620]

Our brains aren't made for such multi-tasking, you definitely miss a bunch of details of video doing it, paying extra for features that do not add enough value does not make any sense, for 1k you can easily buy a galaxy or an iphone which are very good with all the basics.

[@dmz489]

​@@possessorofgreatness7620 just because your brain is on dial up dont bash his viewpoint.👍

[@Espartanica]

As someone with autism, my brain can't NOT multitask. It's great for people like me.​@@possessorofgreatness7620

[@IrenMasot]

@@dmz489 bruh that guy's brain is on fuckin smoke signals 💀 That man is on life support 💀 he's a wax statue 💀 I own a Wing and it's great.

[@donspeaks6356]

Does the same with split screen..

[@madfox58]

Lumias at the time were S TIER, the issue wasn't even really Windows Phone itself, but rather all the devs that didn't want to bring their apps or support to the OS. Even to this day there are apps that refuse to work on Android because they're like "na', most people use iPhone so we're not making an Android version" and it sucks. I still miss my Lumia 930

[@edgvincent]

I agree! It's camera was exceptional and to this day its boxy design is still a reference to me. The amoled display, the alumnium ...

[@nrbgamingYT]

I only had a L625 and I was dreaming of upgrading it to a flagship Lumia… Alas, I got the invite for OnePlus One… And nothing really happened on the Lumias to justify waiting.

[@bobweiram6321]

From my point of view of a developer and user, Windows Phone was the Burger King of mobile platforms. As a developer, it was unprofitable. Microsoft is too greedy, lacks creativity, and isn't quality driven. They were desperate for developers, but charged $99 a yearto be in the Windows Store. They also forced developers to update their apps with every update release. As a result, Windows phone struggled to attract third-party apps. Microsoft made it even worse by cutting off older devices from subsequent OS upgrades. It obliterated the existing installed base, resulting in an even smaller market for apps. As a user, the Windows Phone UI was visually dull and confusing. It didn't have a cogent UI like the iPhone did. At times it was too fluffy and others it was too spartan. It also didn't copy one of Apple's hallmark features: the seamless integration with their existing ecosystem. Windows Phone just didn't work well with Windows and Office. Moreover, Microsoft screwed earlier Windows Phone customers by cutting them off from upgrades. Some had owned them for a few months.

[@pratyushdeb]

The ui of the lumias were so cool, and they keyboards were phenomenal. Too bad they are gone.

[@BalramNair]

For a pretty long time, about 1.5 years, Instagram was ios only if anyone remembers. I remember having to log in to my buddies' iphone 4, post a photo and then log out back lol

[@Tharrinne]

About the Nokia 1020. The Cortana assistant in mine was THE SINGLE best thing ever. I would tell it to remind me to get socks from Walmart, it would send me a notification anytime I was at a Walmart, any Walmart. It was the single best contextual reminder assistant ever and I've never managed to replicate it.

[@mikosoft]

This. It was the only assitant where the location based reminders actually worked. I would set up "remind me to X when I'm home" and it did that, every time. When I was forced to switch to android because win no longer did what I needed I abandoned location based reminders because they never worked reliably. Oh I miss those.

[@headofants]

You can use Samsung Routines for this.

[@PyrrhosDauvet]

And the SMS, when driving with a Bluetooth, as soon as a message arrived cortana proposed to read it, ask for a reply and took it all by voice, my android 12 can't do this...

[@0Everlast0]

@@PyrrhosDauvet FR. It was just amazing. Cortana could do that YEARS before Google or siri could stop a song without the need of an internet connection.

[@ApolyonTheSoulRender]

That assistant was shockingly good for when it came out. My 1020 is probably my favorite phone ever other than my Huawei P30 Pro. Guess I'm a camera phone person lol

[@riggi_]

C for the Lumia? That's poor judgement. Lumia was way ahead of any Android or iPhone then. Windows phone OS is something I still miss using, the simplicity and style was amazing. The clean and thoughtful UI for the camera, most informative yet well organised home screen, pure zen mode type animations 🔥 and that instant access to the camera shutter button are just a few. The bold colour options, build quality, heat management, amazing battery life and the list goes on. Cortana was years ahead of Google now and Siri. The poor strategy of Steve Ballmer of not being able to bring in the developers onto the platform killed an amazing chance of a strong competition. And ya the crisp and clear photos.

[@linuxlebt]

Indeed. All the UI flatness was called ugly then and is state of the art now. If only there were apps :(

[@boletus2001]

Windows Phones were absolutely top tier amazing. The best phones to use and Nokia did fantasic with the designs. However, like you said, the lack of software killed it. Even me, who loved Windows Phone, eventually moved to Android just because I couldn't even do 25% of the cool stuff my friends were doing with their phones.

[@TC64X]

@@linuxlebt weird, i remember this the opposite way, the simple UI felt really state of the art at the time, back then simplification was very on trend. but today "ui flatness" is starting to feel really stale/boring/corporate. like you couldn't even set a home screen wallpaper on Windows Phone without it awkwardly "only showing through the tiles" (and this wasn't even added till a later update.) the full dark mode UI was very unique at the time but even then every app using the same colors and black background felt very basic - and it feels even more basic now. however, i do get why many feel that it was underrated. it ran really smoothly even on low end hardware and the UI animations + gestures were very well done. i'm familliar with Windows Phone as i frequently used one at the time ~2014

[@ftheweebs6799]

​@@TC64XI used to dially a Nokia X on my middleschool day (and that phone basicly is just Android with Windows phone skins on top of it) and I love it since at the time Windows phone was quite expensive plus you can't use BlackBerry Messenger on windows phone at the time I think it could be an interesting Idea for Nokia if they continue to develop it after the windows phone failed instead of just a rebranding a garbage HMD Phone and releasing some gimmicky dumb phone (which again was a cool concept) since you can basicly run some basic android app like WhatsApp and can make a great secondary device which ended up not because the battery life sucks and they didn't optimize most of the app for it (again good concept but poor execution)

[@dafoex]

I think it was ugly then and still ugly now. I hate the way current Android and current iOS looks, too, so I'm not judging one and not the others. I'll admit that it did have some innovative features that were totally not copied from Ubuntu Touch. Convergence (or Continuum as MS called it) was and still is an awesome idea.

[@jakesyoutubezone9808]

The duo and duo 2 are fantastic devices now thanks to years of software updates. As a companion device that lets you multitask and do more intensive computing tasks without having to bust out your laptop while on the go is genuinely useful. It was never supposed to be your main phone but people just could not grasp its niche. I use my duo 2 every day.

[@joespantosso]

I still use my duo as Main device. Wunderful thing

[@andyschultz5845]

After joining Ridge as an executive, I feel like it would be good to mention that he works for Ridge and change some verbiage. Rather than “They launched this mag safe wallet” it would be nice to see “we launched this mag safe wallet” or at least disclose his position. No hate, just think it would be an honest disclosure if not everyone is aware that he has an executive relationship with a sponsor.

[@Garythefireman66]

Disagree

[@NotNemoGood]

@@Garythefireman66 u need to give a reason why you disagree other than that u like mkbhd

[@hernanhernandez6567]

I would agree with this statement. If Linus discloses he has stock in framework, he should be able to disclose this. It's more of just a friendly reminder for others as Andy said. Heck, I forgot about it still he said it

[@Jdb63]

Ah I wasnt aware he was an executive there. That leaves a sour taste in my mouth

[@nigilvalikodath]

Maybe this was recorded long before he joined Ridge

[@animationcreations42]

The Wing is absolutely an S tier phone. RIP LG, the G6 is my absolute favourite form factor for a phone, it was the perfect size, had the perfect amount of bezel to be able to hold the phone horizontally, and the power button/finger print reader was on the back where it belongs!

[@nevetsgg]

Myself and a few friends had the LG Nexus. The power button stopped working on all of them. Never bought another LG phone.

[@ajayrathore8704]

I also had the g6 it felt like a armour so much quality even though it wasn't that heavy and also the perfect power button placement ever

[@Jason-se6dh]

No way the wing is a S tier

[@chriswilfrid]

​@@Jason-se6dh FU! It's S Tier!

[@abdullahzafar4401]

Yea this guy have something againt LG, Very obvious bias against LG

[@auliamate]

I swear to you, if the Blackberry Priv got revived TODAY, with modern specs, running Android 14, with at least an "okay" camera, I WOULD BUYYYYYYY THATTTT. I love MrMobile, dont get me wrong, but mama wants a BLACKBERRY LIKE THE GOOD OL' DAYS WITH MY Z10

[@Aliexpiistic]

PREACH!!! To this day I miss my Priv :( My Passport's still alive though (I dunno how)...

[@moseskiplagat5940]

I still have my Priv and still love it more than any phone I have ever had. Now if it were to be released again with better battery, updated software and features, am buying it again

[@dafoex]

I'd have seriously considered buying it if the keyboard slid out landscape, and I'm someone that otherwise doesn't like Blackberry.

[@devilmaycry57]

I wanted one back in the day, but I remember seeing about the issues with performance at the time and specifically I remember some security issues (not unlockable, bootloader maybe?) that made me say no in the end. Killer design tho.

[@royalewithchz]

A revived Priv with a better name would be the only thing to pull be back out of the Apple ecosystem. I don’t love this company but, they have safe devices.

[@eculhane]

I absolutely loved my Lumia 1020. With the Lumia Pro Camera app, they were doing Google Best Take in 2013. The phone would take multiple pictures and let you choose which face was best for each user individually. Such an underrated feature I miss every time I take pictures.

[@nathanrodriguez914nr]

The Lumia was not before social media was big. I was on facebook and twitter when i had my Lumia. Instagram wasnt a thing, but facebook sure was. Also, the UI and media player was incredible. Also, having Microsoft Word come with the phone was amazing.

[@sbam936]

Yeah and the Lumia had full Facebook integration baked into the UI which was amazing for messaging.

[@viv_22]

The Nokia Lumia 1020 was the legendary Nokia 808 Pureview's successor (which was notorious for having a 41 megapixel camera - in 2012! It considered by many as being years ahead of the competition). It was released in 2013, I was 16 that year and social media was already big, albeit not as big as it is today. I think both of you forgot about Windows Phone OS as you did not mention it at all, just saying that the UI was good. I actually like the LG Wing and I think it deserves a higher tier. I really like watching KZbin videos while simultaneously looking at the comments (multitasking).

[@tiun3k461]

Just to add, the camera sensor tech implemented in Nokia 808 was develpoed by Toshiba for use in satellites! The patent was from around 2007/08, if I recall correctly

[@viv_22]

@@tiun3k461 Hello, I didn't know about this fact at all before reading your comment. Thanks for letting me know 😁 Nokia really made lots of good hardware during its heydays 🙂

[@Moon_Presence]

Megapixels mean almost nothing when it comes to cameras. A lot of people attribute megapixels to picture quality. That's not the case.

[@viv_22]

@@Moon_Presence I made that comment 2 months ago; I pointed out all the things that these KZbinrs seemed to forgot to mention in the video. Like I said, they were considered as years ahead of the competition (more notably the 808 Pureview) especially with long-term reviews comparing them to some phones released after their heydays. Upon watching, I don’t see the phones’ cameras as “flawless”, but I am not denying the good qualities for their time as well. And no, it’s not just because of their 41-megapixel camera status. Nokia highlighted the high megapixel count that came with those phones as their main desirable feature for marketing purposes, but a person like me who’s keen on reading and watching about tech beforehand knew better than just solely being attracted to it. Heck, they did not run Android which was rising fast and one of the must haves even during their launch.

[@BWTECH0521]

its so sad LG had to pull out of the smartphone game. They were truly innovative. I guess it doesn't pay to be creative these days.

[@bennyblanco14]

I love LG phones ..I had the LG G4 which was the only phone that was made for audiophiles

[@alukeofalltrades]

@@bennyblanco14I never got the G4, but the G3 was and still is the best phone I ever had. Unfortunately the hardware didn’t last, they had an issue with the solder on the CPU becoming disconnected over time. But damn was it a great phone.

[@Dthamilaye]

Still using LG G8X ThingQ with dual-screen case. Was around 400€ new when I bought it. Affordable dual screen and not one of those soft foldable screens that I do not want. Sadly, SW has not been updated in few years and there is no similar phone on the market anymore (= dual-screen phone with separate screens, 600€ or under).

[@iamwooth1729]

I loved the LG phones WHEN THEY WORKED! Honestly the LG G2 was ahead of its time. It was amazing! Unfortunately it got stuck on bootloop. I then got the LG V10 and again I loved it until it also got stuck on bootloop. My last LG phone was the V20 and that one worked but after a year it would drain my batteries so quickly. I had 2 batteries with an external charger and it would eat both batteries up before I was done with my work day. I couldn't justify giving them another chance after all that. It's a shame cause their concepts were always fun.

[@x5px]

These days it’s only really iPhones for most and Samsung or Google for those that can’t afford an iPhone.

[@dreamer08ful]

That Lumia is S tier asf

[@curtisbme]

Seriously. That was an all around great phone, wasn't just great for the camera.

[@afaneon]

Windows phone was truly underrated. Had the Lumia 950 and the cameras on that were amazing too. The Ui was also really good. At least I thought so. Cool to see some of the tech in Androids now (windows continuum now samsung dex for example and type c being on all phones. Windows Hello I think also boosted biometric use for unlocking your phone with your face, or in this case, through iris scanning). Would be cool if the brought back windows mobile

[@carlosux]

windows phone was the best. my lumia remains my favorite phone of all

[@Pasi123]

I'm still using the 1020 as a pocket camera. Even the battery is still in decent condition even though mine is a prototype so it has to be older than most 1020's, assuming the battery hasn't been changed. I got the phone used few years ago so I don't know the full history of it.

[@afaneon]

@@Pasi123 that's so cool! I've always wanted to the 1020 but at the time I couldn't get it with my carrier. They only had the 950. I actually watched the announcement of it while I was in class lol 😅 I think that was 2015 or 2016. The 1020 is unmatched. Legit, their hardware was really good! I especially loved the removable back on the 950. I remember getting two Mozo leather backs that launched same time but sold separately. Microsoft actually lowkey really out did themselves on both phones. Absolutely miss having a windows phone

[@deathjunior7755]

I worked in phone sales from 2010-2022 got to enjoy all of these, such a throw back. Love this.

[@SidGolan]

I'm sorry but the Surface Duo phones are S tier. The Pixel Fold is modeled on the form factor of the duo. The software issues were fixed in subsequent patch updates and the phones run pretty much flawlessly.

[@aravind767]

The LG wing is an iconic device. I remember when Tony stark had an LG phone in Iron Man 1, and it flipped open in this exact same way. That was the concept phone LG based to get this one out. Definitely deserves an S tier.

[@kolt9051]

True!

[@sssjjjttt]

That was the LG VX9400! My last and favorite dumb phone! Still miss it to this day😢

[@heroicvision]

Also the Blue Beetle movie they used the LG Wing . That caught me by surprise.

[@dafoex]

The Wing is a great device, but saying Tony Stark had one isn't a compliment. Bing Bing Wahoo

[@alex1695lopez]

I had that same LG "T phone", as we called it, before Iron man came out. Then when the movie released, every other kid in middle school was jealous of my phone and wanted me to use the video call. That never existed on the phone! But it did have the ability to watch live TV broadcasting. During the free trial, I wowed everyone by being able to watch The Simpsons on my phone! Good times.

[@sherlockmaverick]

I had serious Android Authority flashbacks seeing David talk about phones again!

[@SandmanDeltaForce1]

Why did he leave Android Authority

[@harrisyfernandez9651]

​@@SandmanDeltaForce1he probably left for a better job opportunity at Marques' channel.

[@fullweezy3553]

Android authority is pretty much dead it was on its way out when Joshua Vergara left

[@vamsikalavakuri9344]

LG wing is atleast an A tier(Atleast the hardware aspect), I mean 1. Content(Landscape reels and vids)+comments 2. Controllers at handy 3. mini screen acting as a trackpad Wow, it would have been so much fun

[@MattC-jg1yb]

0:14 "I think this is the werk ferter e erver reviewed so far"

[@CrossXseven]

I actually had the Blackberry Priv for 7 consecutive years as my daily driver. I mainly switched to a newer phone because of the battery completely dying at some point and because of the remaining android 6. But I always say: this was the absolute peak form-factor for a phone and if one day (preferable blackberry) some manufacturer is making a vertical sliding android phone with top-tier performance, you can surely count me as first guy who's gonna preorder it!

[@adilogan]

David is like the smartphone wikipedia. He just knows what phone it is along with the launch year and specs. That's sick.

[@ygwaltgmb]

This is edited they go over the phones b4 recording 😂

[@Soundwave857]

I loved using the LG wing when traveling. Watching YT and texting at the same time is such a blessing

[@sayandeepthrowaway]

You can do that on any regular phone😅

[@Soundwave857]

@@sayandeepthrowaway no, not really. If you use split screen the video is super tiny on the top and the UI bugs out when opening the keyboard. - chat via bubbles but that will cover the video and bug out the ui. - have the tiny video in a floating window but that will cover ui elements of the chat. - directly reply to a message bubble but that covers the video, bug out the ui and you can't really read the chat in full. so no, nothing beats a physically second screen.

[@sayandeepthrowaway]

@@Soundwave857 Hi, Yes your use case is pretty cool. But hear me out, have you tried picture in picture for KZbin, it is floating and you can resize and move it any way you want, you want to read something, put it in the bottom, have to type? Put it at top. I do agree yours is more cooler and gives more screen real-estate, but I meant any other phone can also do that.

[@ryoukaip]

a lot of Android phone doesn't have this resizable feature, and you have to pay for youtube premium to have picture-in-picture​@@sayandeepthrowaway

[@Soundwave857]

@@sayandeepthrowaway I have tried that yes, The video is still tiny, in the way of everything and a hassle to use and navigate

[@AmandaHuggenkiss]

I had an Essential PH1 that was purchased new and unlocked off Amazon. I used AT&T as my carrier. I drove that for four years until the glass cracked and died. Then my family made me switch to an iPhone so they could “find me”. Miss that PH1.

[@Metamine0]

The hardware was the best of any phone. I wish we got a second one

[@hat1324]

The notch and missing headphone jack though. Ahead of its time 😂

[@Metamine0]

@@hat1324 lol yeah. The modular DAC was a cool concept though

[@DrGanja99]

As a phone nerd this was a dope video checking out some of these old devices. That essential build quality is still one of the best I’ve had in hand.

[@kjellvb1979]

One of the best things about BlackBerry was the ability for a company to run a BlackBerry Server and actually have some pretty deep control over the devices and users... I was a BlackBerry Enterprise Server Admin, and back in 2006 one was hard up to find that level of control with your Cellular devices and services in an IT environment.

[@99999me1]

Essential phone was a great deal when the price on Amazon dropped to ~$250

[@14przemoIO]

I remember wanting it so bad, but unfortunately it was never released in my country. Goated phone for that price.

[@TreHco939]

Yes!!! It came out as 699 I think. Then it could not compete with top Samsung or iPhone. Then they cut prices, but still didn't sell much. And on Amazon prime day I bought for 220. Best phone I've ever had.

[@lemastre]

@@14przemoIO I flew to the states on vacation just to get it. Amazing phone. Used it for years.

[@EthanHaque]

It was getting Android updates before Pixels. They really stepped up their support after all of the backlash and made a fantastic device. After my PH-1 broke I finally switched to an iPhone as I could not go back to a device with no long term updates.

[@RyanAlcantara]

I had one only because the CEO of Sprint had some contest going on Twitter where he asked for you to tell him what your favorite Android phone was. If you were selected you got a free Essential phone. I was surprised when he responded to my post. It was pretty snappy but I already had an unlocked Pixel 2XL so I ended up selling it on eBay.

[@JoelKalich]

I'm watching this on my Wing in full screen while texting someone. I love it. I don't want a different form factor.

[@xhevahircaushi9841]

You kidding right?

[@JoelKalich]

@@xhevahircaushi9841 I'm not. I've owned this thing for years. It's buggy, but I love the form factor.

[@rosetheblackcat]

peak smartphone

[@jayq196]

The wing was sick

[@Fobes]

You are one of 10 that purchased that phone and the other 9 were KZbinrs.

[@aryanauti3227]

The windows phone UI was genuinely S Tier at the time. It was way too interesting to have gone out so fast. I still remember when android and iOS users tried my windows phone and nobody could make sense of it lol.

[@NishithThakkar]

I don't think not being able to make sense of the UI is as good of a UX feature as you think it is.

[@einstijn138]

It was good, but the lack of apps made me not get a windows phone at the time

[@harunakachiro4554]

Especially the keyboard. I always got a reaction when someone tried my keyboard 🎹

[@aryanauti3227]

@@NishithThakkar Yeah well it was way too different compared to the other two. iOS and Android were quite similar to each other back then. But windows phone was different in a good way. Things made more sense logically. Unfortunately the whole ordeal was too buggy.

[@robustanybody5138]

It's not really a good thing I guess that's why they went out of business

[@Thobeian]

16:00 peak ADHD friendly phone.

[@Ashterix_Nocturnal]

Average KZbin Shorts video:

[@EVRLYNMedia]

im so glad you guys appreciate the essential phone. i feel like it got a lot of hate back then, but i had one and it was like really usable after they fixed the software issues. total s tier phone.

[@gnobre]

Nokia Lumia is S Tier

[@Andres.N_SK]

Yeeeeeees

[@gang_codm]

Yes siiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrr

[@lilrockstar77]

I said the same thing

[@sihamhamda47]

I remember using Windows Phone launcher theme on my old Android because I was dreaming on having a Lumia back then. Too bad that Windows Phone died too soon because most app devs were not interested on making (or porting) their apps for Windows Phone

[@1yaz]

No mention of the Nokia 808, Lumix CM1, or Galaxy K Zoom either...

[@georget10i]

The Lumia Camera app was gorgeous! So well designed. They made it even better in Lumia 950.

[@stevelitchfield]

Oh come on guys, the original Surface Duo has had two major OS updates since you looked at it. And you don’t seem to have applied either to your test phone. It works superbly now.

[@Shoeboxcat7]

The Surface Duo 2 is my favorite phone ever. Period. It gets a bad wrap. I get that it has issues, but it is fundamentally versatile and full of practical use case scenarios. I'm in year 3 and I still can't put it down.

[@taotao98103]

Oh my god. I have to say something about the Surface Duo one phone. First of all, I'm a current user of the Surface Duo one. Yes the initial version of the software out of the box was bad, but 6 months after they released the phone, they released a major software fix. The phone is fine now. Not to mention the phone is the thinnest phone in the world with the two OLED sharp screens. I don't consider the Duo 2 an upgrade, because it's thicker than the Duo one, the phone no longer can be flipped all the way over again. This is a great phone. Oh and I bought the phone right at the 6 month point where they released the fix and dropped the price from $1500 to $700.

[@aurelian1]

I tried the BlackBerry Priv - I loved the keyboard just for the trackpad feature. You could read a site without your fingers getting in the way while you scroll. Needed a better camera, but I’d take it over the KeyOne.

[@TheSektorz]

Bro the Surface Duo is amazing..... design-wise. I still play around with mine from time to time, and wish there were a newer version with good software and no bezels... Currently using the Z Fold 5 and WISHING it was as wide and ultrathin as the Surface Duo.

[@revrodgers]

Did they not get the updates?

[@TheSektorz]

@@revrodgers Nah, it's stuck on Android 12 (without the cool folding phone features) and a very old security update, forever.

[@YolkaholicProductions]

Also the single screen aspect ratio is hard to hold, but apps and web pages are so nice to use with the extra width.

[@Natsukashii1111]

Same, got a fold 5 but I wish it was the size of a duo but still using a foldable oled. Issue is that Microsoft of all ppl got a bad software and Samsung one Ui got so much tinkering capabilities missing on any other foldable...

[@_suspi]

The thiness is unreal. Makes me wonder if we'll get tablets in the future that'll be like holding sheets of paper. I still rather have two really nice screens with a hinge vs the weird plastic bending screens foldables have now.

[@MrBreazyyy]

the phones sliding on the table 😭

[@orevohuncks7499]

Painfull 😅

[@Borgesmiiller]

Goosebumps right?!

[@nurafrizal]

And they were brutal with it too like😭

[@Alphoric]

1:56 I feel like the ZerryRigEverything durability test really damaged the already declining hype around the Nextbit Robin

[@tryxxor]

Wdym? Who wouldnt want a phone which a toddler could snap on half for 400$?

[@shadowrealmdps]

I was hoping to see the HTC M8 ! Such a good phone. Awesome video

[@MLNYD]

Every once in a while, I use two slab phones concurrently holding them as if it's an LG Wing and I wish this form factor was allowed to develop.

[@thanksyoutubefortakingmyhandle]

Maan I remember everytime I went to a phone store I'd play with the Nokia Lumia 1020, never got a chance to own one. What a sweet phone!

[@DEJ915]

I had a lumia for my work and personal phone, the integration of everything was awesome. It's too bad the app support didn't take off.

[@ryankelsey7]

I’m still using the duo today. I love it.

[@WBOSkynet]

Nokia Lumia deserves to be A tier. You are knocking it down because its screen is 720p. This looks bad now, but back when it was released it was acceptable. Additionally the UI is clean and minimalist. A lot of people love Apple's minimalist UI and this is up there. The camera is INSANE even now so they went far beyond to make sure it was something that people loved. The phone is GOATed and definitely deserves A tier. The Sharp phone deserves to be S tier like MKBHD originally said.

[@shs747]

Watching this on my Duo 2. You guys should have reved these phones with the latest updates.

[@LovelyAngel.]

I'm also watching this on my first edition Duo that I bought a month ago (I preferred to have my camera on the front) 😂 I really needed this type of device, it won't appeal to the mainstream but for someone who is productive and does a lot of multitasking it's a dream phone.

[@chrisronin]

same, 1st gen club. it does still derp out on occasion, but it's the best 'two phones' i've ever used. and it's just plain fun.

[@gcjohntoledo]

Duo 2 gents. Still kickin

[@chocolatemilk124]

I miss my duo 2. Nothing like it when it came to hardcore phone use. Nothing like googling a place on one screen and calling an Uber on the other. Unfortunately dropped in water and ended up getting an iPhone. I hate this fricken iPhone man.

[@NoAppellation]

What about the HTC Desire series?

[@pruett89]

Bring back the chin!!!!

[@nexnigredo]

Dunno about Desire, but imagine an OG Hero reboot... take my money!

[@phoneywheeze]

also Xiaomi Blackshark

[@mukunddhar6657]

i had the HTC Desire 828. Man that phone sucked.

[@gargonovich]

Desire Z was S-tier.

[@broncofan165]

I feel personally attacked lol. Besides the flexpai, I've either owned or seriously considered buying every phone on this list. Seeing the Surface Duo get a D hurt my soul. Still use mine from time to time.

[@samuelsumbo7693]

This guys don't know wot they are saying. Surface Duo is the best niche phone ever. If u know u know.

[@dafoex]

I agree with the Surface Duo. I wouldn't get it ever because Microsoft creeps me out, but I think there is milage in hard screen foldables.

[@JorgeAlarconL]

This has to be a series of various videos!!! I loved every single second of it remembering old phones.

[@thefoolslounge]

I'll never understand the hate on the Duo 2. I would floor "superior" foldable owners with what I could do with it, because it wasn't a foldable, it was a dual screen phone and the software capitalised on that. The wider aspect ratio worked so much better than these current folders. I only changed because my carrier sims wouldn't work on our phones (the others being a Pixel and a Samsung).

[@dannymartial7997]

I remember the NextBit Robin. I wanted it simply because it looked so good. But the cloud gimmick was bad enough that it swayed me away from it

[@el_ibacache]

As a PH-1 owner I feel validated. And even better when it dropped so much in price! Great video guys, thank for the trip down memory lane :)

[@andreavolpini.h265]

Marques and David are so top tier together

[@PositiveEmo]

a new friend i met pulled this out when we all started taking pictures. the crowd that he was able to gather just by fliping his phone was something reminiscent of the late 2000s. reminded me of a sidekick

[@Mr_Yeah]

If you ever repeat this, please include the Amazon Fire Phone, the only phone with five front cameras

[@dyscotopia]

I got a used essential phone for my girlfriend (which, of course was more than they soon slashed it too) ... The camera got quite good with updates, and it was what turned her family from iPhone users to Android. It also got full fat Android updates often before Google's own phones.. I don't think she'd have switched if the battery hadn't started to die

[@Leanzazzy]

00:21 Didn't realise David has been doing this for 15 years as well

[@Boostergoesround]

I miss the Windows Phone UI! Loved it so much and the keyboard was just pefect.

[@yasugi0153]

0:53 I legit remember watching MKBHDs video on this

[@ShadowElectricity]

I miss when LG was briefly competing with Samsung in the android flagship space. They used to make great phones. Nowadays samsung doesnt really have any competition

[@Danielsaaaaaan]

I was so excited for the Blackberry Priv, when reviews hit saying it just wasnt a good phone I was devastated. I want a modern smartphone with a keyboard

[@1MountainLife]

Same here. Phones with physical keyboards were so satisfying to text and email from. Now it feels like a chore

[@NoAppellation]

What about the Amazon Fire Phone?

[@FatElk]

I kept thinking they were going to bring it out lol

[@FatElk]

I kept thinking they were going to bring it out lol

[@ElijsDima]

LG Wing was so neat. I wish it had succeeded. Also this video is missing the Panasonic CM01 (a phone that was also a mirrorless camera with a moggo leica lens).

[@flyc0de389]

Dont know if it's the camera or what, but Marques' videos give me the sensation everything in his hand is lightweight

[@TCrimson05t]

I wanted to enter this comment section and say unironically that Windows phone was right. The entire thing for Windows phone was that you could integrate the things that different applications did into the OS so you didn't have to operate the phone by hopping in and out of apps but people couldn't wrap their head around it. Literally every chat thing is trying to do the same.thing. and much like the Lumia, like the tablet, Microsoft was just to early. And people a decade later are finally realizing segmenting functions into one application after another is stupid. Smh. The worst timeline.

[@DominicMGeehan]

I am still holding out for a Priv 2. A clicky little keyboard on a decent Android device would be the cure to my depression.

[@DE0BIZONE]

this was fun, i'd be so down for a part 2. love taking a walk down memory lane!

[@silva-sir]

3:07 Mkbhd almost said "The vibration motors was the wors..." 😅

[@hamzerpanzer]

He did say that though...

[@hengineer]

And they should have included the Phone 2, because it fixed all the issues the 1st phone had and was genuinely at least an A tier phone, if not S.

[@hengineer]

Owner of razer phone 2. I want a 3. You had the first razer phone, 2 was a vast improvement but i loved the design.

[@dylanchadderton1]

Watching this on my duo 2 in 2024. Yall are crazy this is the best phone I've ever owned

[@jbsleepy1098]

We need a Marques vid on Windows Phone

[@mrskye08]

He'd just butcher it so no thanks

[@gabrieteku]

only to hear bad and liar things.

[@guyonyoutube501]

No we don't, he's got no idea about Windows phone.

[@macaron3141592653]

Every blackberry from the late 2000's and onward is absolutely gorgeous. I would love to just have one cause how nice they are to look at and hold.

[@nsnpixels]

The BlackBerry Priv could have been a C though. Loved all my BlackBerries from the curve, passport, Z3 and the Dteks.

[@dollarn9ne]

I enjoyed the Surface Duo and still use it to this day

[@carterdavis5176]

I've owned many flagship phones but never have any lived up to the build of the Essential phone. It was gorgeous and way ahead of it's time, and received updates frequently for years. It was only killed by the locked carrier support and people not ready to give up the headphone jack.

[@rodrigohag]

I only disagree with the Surface duo's position. Today these devices are expensive as hell because many people want to buy them. Sure it's a specific niche, but the Surface duo is the perfect device for Nintendo DS, 2DS and 3DS emulation. It is also a spectacular device for reading ebooks.

[@elizabeth3280]

I used this as a ereader/portable media player even though I was no longer using it as a phone. I guess it stopped getting use when I got my tab s9 though but I still dont plan on getting rid of it as its good hardware

[@robustanybody5138]

Yep let's use it When it's essentially useless

[@elizabeth3280]

@@robustanybody5138 haha I mean when I used it as a work phone I used it a lot and enjoyed it except the software was buggy with browsers crashing and whatnot. It did excel in ereading/comparative shopping or watching a video on side and replyig to emails on the other etc. but I stopped usin the duo entirely once I got the tab s9. I used it as a media consumption device without a number associated before I bought the table.. Sometimes devices like this end up with jailbroken builds that can bring new life into it and will eventually get bored enough to see how it handles os installs as it does have the ability to display whats on the phone to a monitor/tv/glasses

[@___Vortex___]

Whaaat, the BlackBerry Priv was awesome I don't remember having any performance issues. I had to finally stop using it because the power button broke but it's still the best android phone I've ever had.

[@prospersikhwari5289]

I remember it stuttering a lot

[@vicflrs]

1:19 I dare you, I double dare you

[@big1cam]

Lg wing while driving Lyft. Driver app on the top, and Spotify on the bottom. It was one of the best phones ever!

[@Giovanni1a]

I've missed a few phones, but the most outstanding for me are: 1. The Nokia 808 Pureview, the predecessor of the 1020 with an amazing camera that even had an ND-filter build in 2. The Xiaomi Mi Mix, the first (I think) phone without a top bezel. Designed by Philip Starck. And with a special way to produce the sound so no speaker was needed

[@aegisofhonor]

Linus said about the RED Hydrogen 1 "I'd be pissed if I paid for this phone". Also, I asked a sales rep at Verizon if they ever sold one, and he can't recall even a single Hydrogen 1 ever being sold. This phone was TERRIBLE, especially for it's ridiculous price at the time that was like 20% more then the flagship iPhone or Galaxy.

[@ChristopherMahn]

How about phones with stereo cameras? I still use one of those to take pictures and videos, because nothing after it can replicate it in this small form factor.

[@kelvintiger]

Is it just me or the audio of this video sounds off

[@owRekssjfjxjxuurrpqpqss]

Yeah there’s a lot of reverberation and the low sounds kind of loud and muddy

[@dead.sparrow420]

something happened with audio quality in this video? like compression etc. it sounds muffled

[@jeremiahcurry4875]

I have had a Galaxy S21 ultra and currently use a zfold 5, yet I still find myself using a surface duo (original) for things like reading a book. It is just soo sleek and it is the best for multi-tasking. The LG wing I can see being good for those times when the keyboard keeps getting in the way of the screen (like filling out a form) just put the keyboard on the bottom screen and use the top screen for what you are working on.

[@jeremiahcurry4875]

Also the Lumia 1020 is being compared against much newer phones. I had a lumia 920 and it was better than the androids of the time and so well built. Shows how plastic phones could have been better than the all-glass ones we have now.

[@MalcomHeavy]

I would love to see another video like this, or one where you specifically go over all of LG's weird phones. It all started with the G3, which was a phenomenal first major smash hit, and then it was followed up by the G4, which is still one of my favorite phones I've ever owned. My G4 had the light tan leather back and I always got absolutely blasted with questions about it at school because it was that cool.

[@mxmus08]

Ok, this format was 👌. More tier lists, please.

[@JG_noir]

More of these! Also new EDC

[@cristianbam]

Is it just me, or does it sound like there's a slight chorus effect on David's voice? Kind of like it's being picked up by 2 mics at once. It's either that or his voice seems to be bouncing off the walls and not going directly into the mic, if that makes sense.

[@dead.sparrow420]

yeah it does sound weird

[@Jiangcool9]

Surface duo has been raising in price in the used market due to retro gaming. One of the best ds/3ds emulation device out there.

[@pretendisreal]

The Surface Duo was a misunderstood gem. Still use one today and is probably my favourite form factor to date (until I eventually upgrade to a folding OLED device I guess).

[@GameShark1080]

I had the BlackBerry Priv and it was by far one of the best Android phones I have ever used. The physical keyboard was the best part of it. It made scrolling, texting and so much more about the phone better

[@SonicMan2007]

Giving The Essential Phone an S Tier and putting the Surface Duo and Lumia that low just show how stupid "tech reviewers" were back in the day and still are. They praise the snooze overpriced fest that iPhones and mainstream Android phones are, every single year, while overlooking how good phones like that were. And then they complain that things have become stale. Clowns every single one of them.

[@erwinmalimban2197]

1:12 Them being so far off the price prediction shows how really out of touch these phone reviewers are. They live in their own bubble.

[@CollinAbroadcast]

The Sony Cybershot phones really started to push boundaries of cameras in phones. Remember owning the c905 back in 2009 and that thing was a beast. Remember people not understanding that I pulled out a phone and not a camera at the time because I had to slide down the cover to reveal the lens, haha

[@guyonyoutube501]

I had that one too. Great camera! I was very very reluctant to switch to smartphones because of this.

[@matttypes2695]

The moto x 1st gen and 2nd gen were the only smartphones I’ve ever loved. Close to stock Android with lots of cool gestures and features.

[@vardaankaushal8560]

Lg need to be back in phone business