The Deadliest Cornering Mistake Riders Make

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MotoJitsu®

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@MotoJitsu
@MotoJitsu 2 жыл бұрын
The fastest way to get into trouble is by going into a corner too fast for your comfort. Rule #1, slow down until you're comfortable with your entry speed, not the entry speed of the rider in front of you.
@jaymac1694
@jaymac1694 2 жыл бұрын
Common sense really more speed equals less reaction time
@motoyonder
@motoyonder 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you speed above the posted speed limits? Maybe it’s better to teach riding the speed limits on the road.
@taylorv4
@taylorv4 2 жыл бұрын
@@motoyonder lol the yellow sign is a suggested speed, not the speed limit, good try though.
@teriw56
@teriw56 2 жыл бұрын
Ride your own ride # 1 rule.
@motoyonder
@motoyonder 2 жыл бұрын
@@taylorv4 Time to be educated…. California VC, Section 22349: (a) Except as provided in Section 22356, no person may drive a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than 65 miles per hour. (b) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no person may drive a vehicle upon a two-lane, undivided highway at a speed greater than 55 miles per hour unless that highway, or portion thereof, has been posted for a higher speed by the Department of Transportation or appropriate local agency upon the basis of an engineering and traffic survey. For purposes of this subdivision, the following apply: (1) A two-lane, undivided highway is a highway with not more than one through lane of travel in each direction. (2) Passing lanes may not be considered when determining the number of through lanes. (c) It is the intent of the Legislature that there be reasonable signing on affected two-lane, undivided highways described in subdivision (b) in continuing the 55 miles-per-hour speed limit, including placing signs at county boundaries to the extent possible, and at other appropriate locations.
@steves3478
@steves3478 2 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion this is the MOST IMPORTANT video you’ve made. We all know that uneasy feeling we get when we realize we are pushing or surpassing our skill level. I WILL remember this on my future rides. Thanks for taking the time to record and post this!
@ukdc-acdctribute1142
@ukdc-acdctribute1142 2 жыл бұрын
"You are the one who pays the consequences"......Leave your ego at home. I'm a track rider, corners are the same everytime, you know what to expect. On the roads you don't! slow in, fast out. You don't learn by going too fast, you learn by going too slow and building.
@mhordijk0871
@mhordijk0871 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@allahjoseph
@allahjoseph 2 жыл бұрын
Correct. Even if you are comfortable with your speed, you should still slow down on public roads. Minimize lean angle you minimize risk.. “Be more selfish…” takin corners. The mistake of setting aggressive new records on public roads is not worth the risk. The goal is to keep the bike, your life, and see the wife. Slow don until you know 100% the bike will mal it. Even if you ride by yourself and it’s not for the “buddies”, don’t listen to your ego either.
@weaponson3-158
@weaponson3-158 2 ай бұрын
I always feel silly when I slow down too much and the bike doesn’t get to lean over at all, but I’m a beginner. It’s better than freaking myself out and nearly crashing. But then next time around, I up the speed a little bit, the bike leans. I’m happy and I didn’t crash.
@davericketts9101
@davericketts9101 2 жыл бұрын
Some readers of this message, may think that I am just just an old guy, who is past it but I got to be an `old guy` by learning this rule, many years ago and strictly sticking to it. I still ride fast but always feel safe and always assume that something is going to be broken down, half way round the corner. I am 66 and have been riding for almost 50 years and I hope to ride for a few more years yet. Great video.
@AbandonSpartan
@AbandonSpartan 2 жыл бұрын
100% accurate!. This was one of my mistakes that cost me. Was only a few months into riding. Decided on a lovely Sunday to go through the twisities solo. Was going around a sweeping right bend at 80kms (50mph) when a sharp left came up with a recommended speed of 45km (28mph) one mistake was I wasn't focused, two to fast of an entry speed, turned in to early cut the corner, panicked lost my concentration should have stopped but didn't ran wide over the line and into a path of an on coming car doing 80km and wrecked it! This mistake could have been fatal. For people follow motojitsu advice it will save you!! Always pay 100% attention, ride to your comfortable pace, enjoy the experience it isnt a race to be the fastest. Your knowledge has expanded my knowledge and understanding and studying your app and watching your videos are fantastic, can't wait to get back in the saddle and put it all into safe practice.
@kaboom362
@kaboom362 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that's horrible. Glad you made it. Best of luck. Be safe.
@maryh3438
@maryh3438 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you made it. Thank you for posting this!!
@David-bf6pl
@David-bf6pl 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!!
@Ra-ml1it
@Ra-ml1it Жыл бұрын
Same here went into a corner at 50 mph and the next corner was tighter didn't slow down next thing I see is me rolling in the dirt I should have known since I rode dirt bikes when I was younger ..I just wasn't thinking
@shemwhitehead9517
@shemwhitehead9517 2 жыл бұрын
This very thing, entering a corner too fast to "keep up", is what bit me a few years ago (by nothing less than a miracle I walked away with only a sore neck and minor damage to my bike). Now, even though my riding skills have improved many folks since then, I ride in the back of the pack so I don't have to worry about anyone else around me getting messed up because I reduce my entry speed so that I know that I can make that turn. Not surprisingly, knowing I don't have others behind me potentially crawling up my @$$ let's me relax and ride my very best which most the time means I can keep up with the lack just fine.
@universalradio6944
@universalradio6944 2 жыл бұрын
Thats the one thing I hate about group rides, having someone behind you. In our group I have to constantly ask people to give me room because I AM going to slow down for corners and often I just use engine braking so no tail lights.
@Jason-co9ep
@Jason-co9ep 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Don't race into the corner, let the corner come to you at a speed you're comfortable with. As KC said, slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Also, if you're riding with more experienced friends just remember that they (should) care more about your safety than you keeping up with them. With practice comes speed, but you can't practice if your bike is wrecked or worse, you're severely injured or dead.
@barryobrien1890
@barryobrien1890 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of like skiing. Its very easy to go from overconfidence to sheer terror when you realize you are out of control, but pavement hurts more than snow. Thanks for all the tips on trail braking and covering the brakes on corner entry and practice for hard braking in a corner. It can be a life saver
@j.t.8759
@j.t.8759 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Greg! I retired from the airlines as the Lead Check Airman (Instructor Pilot) on a large fleet. I. would have hired you in a heartbeat. You do a great job. Keep up the good work and thanks for what you do for this sport to promote safety and better riding technique. Would love to sit down and have a one-on-one conversation with you someday.
@JeanRoi
@JeanRoi 2 жыл бұрын
Yep man I agree. I ride my scooter basically around 30-35 mph in this Carriacou. The roads are mainly filled with curves and you can walk to anywhere you want to go. So speeding is not worth it. Plus I love the feel of riding and at 35 mph I enjoy it all.
@ramonagschwandtner2929
@ramonagschwandtner2929 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Greg for everything you've already taught me about riding my bike. You absolutely made me a better rider. Get home safe at the end of the day - that's it! Thanks a lot & greetings from Austria :)
@hair2050
@hair2050 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 55, lucky to survive my motorcycling youth, mostly off road, but the near deaths were road. Now contemplating getting a bike again after about 35 years, and slightly anxious. Thanks for the advice. It’s something that we all, at least those who have made it to middle age, know deep down but don’t verbalize.
@handle690
@handle690 2 жыл бұрын
After getting back on a bike after a few years I did this exact thing. I went wide on a corner and went into the oncoming traffic lane, could have easily died. I was so lucky there wasn't a semi coming my way. This is some of the most important advice you could get.
@phreenom
@phreenom 2 жыл бұрын
SIFO my young Padawan, SIFO... (Slow In Fast Out). Took the Monster 1200 out on some new roads today, every corner was an unknown. But even when you think you know, maybe the wind brought a tree down, or someone dropped their oil right on the apex, or there's a turtle crossing the road. Always good to have a margin. I remember once in Thailand on a rental CB650R going out to Pai from Chiang Mai, I thought I was hauling ass. Then a GSA and a supermoto blew my helmet off, taking the corners WAAAY faster than I was. I smiled and realized I was not that fast, didn't try to keep up. I've had a few crashes in the dirt, but never on the road, and I intend to keep it that way.
@hwy1310
@hwy1310 2 жыл бұрын
What I like most about this channel, he’s very safety centric. He’s not afraid to over emphasize how important safety is, for all skill levels. Gear, braking, using the clutch properly….I see riders ALL the time on the highway, here in 2022, riding like maniacs which a half helmet, t-shirt and jeans. I can’t help but think, “what idiots”
@machwheels8642
@machwheels8642 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you always for your great experience and sharing for us. Recently on a ride with people I don’t know going on twisties and hills I slowed down especially at Apex of hills with turns before and after and I was very comfortable but afterward the rider behind me told me I shouldn’t have kept slowing down !!! Even though I couldn’t see over the hills they thought I should have kept at same speed. Caused me to think I was doing it all wrong ! So thank you for reiterating to ride my ride. Thankyou thank you. Sally
@steves3478
@steves3478 2 жыл бұрын
Sally - You did it correctly! Don’t ever give in to pressure from others. Safe riding!
@mhordijk0871
@mhordijk0871 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly right; YOUR ride.
@nismojukerich2994
@nismojukerich2994 Жыл бұрын
You said it, "riding with people you don't know" fuck their opinion. Doesn't sound like a group I would go riding with again.
@Azantys
@Azantys 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Greg!! If there’s One single advice one can give to new and seasoned riders is to watch this video !! Well said. In the end no matter what other riders would say, you are the only one paying the price and for what ?? Again great video !!
@OutdoorShellback
@OutdoorShellback 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, swallow that pride and take in a little humility if you see it that way. We're not as good as we think we are and re-learn that lesson every time we mess up. Good words of wisdom, Moto.
@Fernando90054
@Fernando90054 2 жыл бұрын
I had a bike exactly like yours for almost two years and it was a reliable, steady and very safe ride. One day, I went to test ride a different bike and thirty minutes after I felt like I owned it and consequently, increased the pace as I was feeling more and more confident. So confident that it was a little to much and I found my self entering way too fast into a corner and because the bike was heavier than my GS I made that mistake and could feel that the bike wasn’t leaning what I expected and that was easy to happen and very scary. It turned out alright, but that wasn’t a nice sensation. Above everything on top, It happened on a bike that wasn’t mine… In Conclusion, being concentrated all times when we’re riding is mandatory and never take control as granted! Thanks for the important alert you set out on this video as it is another major safety aspect of riding a motorcycle. The attitude. Always alert, always well awake and aware, and never too loose or confident. The bad moments, very frequently happen when we low or drop our defense down or when we force our limits/ personal skills, out of a controlled environment. Nice and useful video. Thanks, once more. ✌️✌️
@kaboom362
@kaboom362 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip Eddie! It seems like a simple concept yet it is overlooked so often. Getting freaked entering a corner once or twice, should be enough for a rider to catch on. I caught on....
@davidteague5992
@davidteague5992 2 жыл бұрын
Did it twice when I was following a more experienced rider and ended up on the other side of the road. Fortunately, no oncoming traffic but happy I learned the lesson without learning the hard way. Now I advocated every rider does a bike course so they can learn lessons from other people's mistakes and not the expensive way.
@davejoe2592
@davejoe2592 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice! I bought a bike back in yhe late 90's from a friend who upgraded. I was a novice rider and crashed going into a left hander trying to keep up with the very same friend who had several years of experience. I sold that bike shortly afterwards and haven't ridden since. Well I did ride a friend's diet bike on his property once since then for about 10 minutes but that doesn't count. Today I pick up a brand new CRF300L. I have been watching videos for months in preparation,but more importantly....I know my limitations this time. When I pick up the bike this afternoon, I plan to take it to the closest parking lot and practice practice practice. I want to get a good understanding at very slow speeds, how the bike feels. I also want to practice finesse with the controls. I have ZERO plans to ride outside of my comfort zone on this bike. I really got it to explore the beautiful area in which I live. I want to take it up forestry service roads and maybe a trail or two if they look to be within my skill level. I plan to rake everything as slow as need be to not go outside that comfort zone. The only prize at the end of the day for 99.9% of us, is getting home alive and without injury. I'm excited to jump on my first bike in over 20 years, but I'm also terrified. I know the consequences of failure and never want to experience them again. Any idiot can make a motorcycle move with 5 or less minutes of instruction, but there is so so so much more to it than making it move.
@lecoeur1231
@lecoeur1231 2 жыл бұрын
Blessings Dave!
@IvanOn2Wheels
@IvanOn2Wheels 2 жыл бұрын
That last bit of speech about the self-discipline was great, very well said. One of the reasons that I'm sceptical about riding in groups. Thank you for all the advices and information in your vids
@petersonmottaruda2412
@petersonmottaruda2412 2 жыл бұрын
Very good advice. That's one of the reasons i choose to ride alone. I ride at my own pace, and don't have to worry with other guy's trying to do better or to keep up. Great videos and contents. Tank's for sharing! 👍👍👍
@stephenrichards5386
@stephenrichards5386 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really pleased to see a motorcyclist do a video on this. I road bikes for years and worked out very early on that you corner outside bends in the inside of your lane. Unfortunately I see motorcyclists corner from the middle to center line so often that the modern 🏍️ does not understand this life saving tip.
@ceedee863
@ceedee863 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This is a lesson. I've been riding a trike since I started riding three years ago and now I'm transitioning to two wheels. Riding a trike, you can get away with less skill in my case. Not so on two wheels. I'm working on improving my riding skills, especially corners and U turns, so I can ride my new motorcycle with confidence.
@JeanetteSalisbury
@JeanetteSalisbury 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Greg from New Zealand 😊🏍️ A foot note. My training school I go to have adopted your principles. I've followed you for the last 5 years & was over the moon when I learned you have such a big influence over here. I started riding at 58, soon to be 63 & love your posts. 😊
@MotoJitsu
@MotoJitsu 2 ай бұрын
nice!!! Follow me for more content. instagram.com/motojitsuclub/
@Sammylu-greenbeatsred
@Sammylu-greenbeatsred 2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you. Back in the day when I started riding in the canyons I rode with very experienced riders. Every time I was with them I told them, "Don't worry, I'll be there eventually." and they would just laugh but that is how I avoided crashing and I learned. The worst days were when someone in your group wiped-out.
@enav8524
@enav8524 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you. I took a road skills class with Superbike Coach Can Akkaya. I almost crashed twice trying to keep up with him. At the end of the class I told him, I almost crashed and he said "I was going slow there's no reason why you couldn't keep up with me". He was going like 60mph around 25mph turns. At that time I had only been riding for 2 months. I've learned more from your videos than from the 2 classes I took from him. THANK YOU. I just bought some of your books too..
@alexandercrawford8071
@alexandercrawford8071 2 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome if you did a ride through twisties with telemetrics displayed on screen like throttle %, front brake %, tach, clutch, gear, whatever else and talked through the turns. I'd like to learn when to work my shifts in to corner entry/braking so I can do it more optimally and with the least disruption to suspension.
@FrauStormm
@FrauStormm 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. I’m a visual learner and there’s so many factors going on at the same time in the twisties
@Giesela0815
@Giesela0815 2 жыл бұрын
That would be interesting
@johnklink4825
@johnklink4825 2 жыл бұрын
That’s me! I slow down. Todays ride Santa Ynez 78 to Ramona & home. I’m 76 years old riding a GTL 1600. Thank you for the confidence boost.
@GunNut37086
@GunNut37086 2 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal advice, MJ! You can always accelerate if you've entered too slow, but you can't always slow down if you've entered too fast.
@SportyRider
@SportyRider 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice! Slow in, fast out. Progress out of the comfort zone and improving is something I am working on and probably overly careful with. But hey, that's MY speed
@TarpsOnTwo
@TarpsOnTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Learned this the hard way on one of my first group rides. Got caught up with the fast group in front of me on a twisty road I wasn't familiar with. Got caught on a turn with a little too much speed. Slowed down enough but was already wide on the turn and hit gravel on the shoulder. Low-speed low side. Thankfully, I was OK and the bike was fine. Biggest hurt was to my own EGO! BIG lesson learned though. Was definitely trying to ride beyond my experience level. I knew better too. Back on the road after getting my bike fixed and am going into my riding being entirely Selfish as you mention. That "speed" will continue to grow as my seat time and experience on two wheels grows as well. Thanks for this reminder. NEW RIDERS take heed!
@pilotistbreit
@pilotistbreit 2 жыл бұрын
6:30 There we have another nice example of the parallels between flying a plane and riding a bike. As a pilot your goal should be always "stay ahead of the plane". Same is for riding a bike: "Stay ahead". Also very nice note about the self-discipline! Spot on!
@ShiroLimPY
@ShiroLimPY 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir for your sharing. I always envy people that can get in and out the corner so fast and I always hope that I can do that too, and I always blame and question on things like "is it my bike?" "Am I coward?(that I don't dare to take the risk to roll up the throttle to get in and out fast as they did)" "Will I look cooler if I can do that they did?". At the end of the day, getting back home safe is the main point like you always said. Thanks again for your guidance Sir.
@jimjim2334
@jimjim2334 2 жыл бұрын
On point video !!! There are many more aspects to riding other than speed. A lot of nice countryside to see out there and places I may want to stop and visit. That's never going to happen, if I am driving at the speed of a surface to air missile. In a day out, just seeing a blur to my left and right while focusing 110% on the road in front of me, is not my idea of fun.
@hwy1310
@hwy1310 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@mhordijk0871
@mhordijk0871 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i said earlier in comments; speed is key. If you can't proces the information, Slow. The heck. Down. You have to observe, identify, evaluate, decide and act in a split second. Slowing down can give you the extra time you need. For the entry vs exit speed, i have also commented to look at a corner from the other side. Try to increase your exit speed first, then see if you can accelerate in the maintain part, ever farther back and then work on your entry speed. Know your way out, before you go in. Speed is key. But it is not always about going faster. Sometimes you need to slow down, to be faster.
@TimRHillard
@TimRHillard 2 жыл бұрын
6:57 there's Johnny law! You missed him like a dozen seconds prior! The CHP don't take kindly to motorcycles going fast. Ask me how I know??
@twowheelstouring482
@twowheelstouring482 2 жыл бұрын
I judge a corner by always being able to spot my stopping point, i often go through one thinking i could of been faster but many times ive come across obstacles in my path which allowed me to stop or safely avoid it. Where i live in uk has lots of twisties, but you cant see around most of them due to trees and hedges. Restraint has allowed me to develop into a quick rider.
@brutalengineering466
@brutalengineering466 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen 2 of your videos now and they're ALMOST 100% awesome. You're teaching, you're a teacher, and you do a great job of instructing. One problem. A newb will eventually come into a corner hot. The previous video that I watched was really good. You talked about braking. The problem is that a newb WILL come into a corner hot eventually and, I know you're an instructor, BUT you lean really hard on not getting into that situation. The fact is that all of us eventually, for whatever reason, end up coming into a corner too hot and you sort of, but not really, addressed what to do in that situation. I taught my kids this...the bike will do more than you are comfortable with, so #1, TRUST the bike. #2, trail brake, which is something you addressed, lol, big toe pressure on the rear brake. #3, and maybe the MOST important, remembering that despite our best effort, we are coming in too hot, LOOK DEEPER INTO THE CORNER! I cannot stress that enough. Why? TARGET FIXATION. Looking deeper into the corner FORCES you to look at where you want to go and prevents you from looking at where you're going to crash. That is the undisputed #1 in surviving. YOU GO WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING. So, even though you want to piss yourself, the bike will do more than you think it can, have faith and FORCE yourself to look at where you want to go and you'll get there. All that said, your instruction is EXCELLENT. KUDOS
@robertbates1079
@robertbates1079 2 жыл бұрын
Slow in ,fast out . Bends only go left or right , its the severity of the bends that counts , if you follow the vanishing point and its going away from you can keep steady , if its coming closer to you , you need to ease off . Good vid , ride safe from Wales UK where our biking roads are all twisties.😍
@kimsim3907
@kimsim3907 2 жыл бұрын
Well said! If most follow half of what you said, stats on crashes would be impacted by a good percentage.
@orlandominichiello
@orlandominichiello 2 жыл бұрын
Good advice, great channel.Cornering is usually where my heartbeat increases, comfort level is so accurate.BTW when we increase the throttle does it not keep the bike more upright therefore safer? I may tap the front break a second to get at comfort speed entering a corner. Agree this is an important learning video, well done.
@ChristianxDucatis
@ChristianxDucatis 2 жыл бұрын
Had an incident last week where I did not slow down enough. I thought I was comfortable until I got into the corner. I realized I misjudged and although I didn’t drop the bike I did almost hit a car. Could have been much worse. Will definitely watch my speed and ride my ride. SN: I’ve been riding for almost two months.
@TimRHillard
@TimRHillard 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, coming in too hot. You can always add some speed after apex, but there is certainly a physical limit of lean and traction and then, down ya go.
@dannyjonze
@dannyjonze 2 жыл бұрын
respect your opinion here, all very true and a good example of how to approach cornering as a learner.
@TimRHillard
@TimRHillard 2 жыл бұрын
I believe in ''spidey sense'' as well. Even if you gave done a corner 100 times, if something is off, just slow down. Usually it's nothing, but sometimes its a giant patch of gravel dropped on the road... If you want to get religious about it, some people say its the holy spirit, but people trip on such things these days. But in all likelihood, it probably is God.
@gregoryuschold3870
@gregoryuschold3870 Жыл бұрын
True. I paid the price. Didn’t realize I had a hairpin. Was only going about 30 mph but it was too fast. 3 broken ribs, partially collapsed lung, broken shoulder blade. Thankfully no surgery. I’m in PT and riding again. Now I SHUT UP AND PRACTICE.
@irishtrash5
@irishtrash5 2 жыл бұрын
I have been working on this particular skill the most in my riding, I'm trying to get it to instinctual levels so I can make instant adjustments, but a few weeks ago, I was on a barely "wavy" road that was paralleling the freeway in LA, and there's a part that comes up a 50 ft high crest then goes back down, immediately. At the exact same time it does a 90/90 degree zig zag, 20ft to the right then back to the left 20 degrees so you're going north again, and the warning sign is just a suggested speed warning of "35." I was NOT ready, and thankfully there were no cars coming the other way right that second.... 15 second later or earlier and I would have been in a wreck, so yeah, I pay attention to what I'M comfortable with.
@HuntPost22
@HuntPost22 2 жыл бұрын
I had a moment like this the other day, seeing this video after it is almost like a sign.
@DAVJULART
@DAVJULART 2 жыл бұрын
For any cornering bike there are arguably 3 limit speeds: A) the max. speed of its configuration limited by physics, B) the max. speed limited by your ability and C) the speed you are comfortable with. I like to ride at no more than say 80% my limit sticking in my lane on the twisties wherever possible. But I will watch similar bikes take a corner at speeds closer to A than I'd ever want to be just to see how much headroom there is for me to explore next time around. To be honest that never gets me close to B but does help with the comfort level.
@dogenthusiast8729
@dogenthusiast8729 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. One thing to add also is to avoid riding behind a sketchy unskilled rider if you’re in a riding group. Unfortunately sometimes you just don’t know that. I recently crashed my motorcycle not because of my skill or was I’m going too fast for my skill. I ride at my own ride. Therefore I can correct mine mistakes or to avoid things on the road if possible. It was a blind turn leading into another sharp tight turn that can really put even an experienced rider in a bad situation. I came into the corner and suddenly there she was in front me. In such situation it gave me as the rider only with little room to adjust for myself and not for the slow rider who keeps self adjusting from swirling in and out through the corner. I can see that our speed differences was different. She was on her brake. I got on my brake and I was closing in. Yes I was riding at my comfortable speed and slower than normal. I was forced to get on my brake mid to avoid hitting that person. I got on my rear brake the most pressure I can apply safely as possible as I was still closing in. Because of the line I took and with the rear brake that I had to applied to slow down from hitting her. I made my turn coming into the inside. I figured no way I can stop in mid corner the speed I was going. I’ll have pass her from the inside to avoid hitting her. While doing so the person in front of me since going much slower was able to correct her multiple mistakes and went inside also. All this was happening within seconds. So I was still on my brake. At this moment I was forced to get in my front brake this time still during mid corner to avoid again not hitting her as she came in. I applied the front brake as safely and as smooth as possible to slow my bike even more. By applying my brakes my bike stood up. All this was happening during mid corner. I went into the opposing lane immediately because of the curve from the road and into the ditch. I did not have the room or time to stop. So long story short ride with people you know sometimes when you think you gave the person in front of you enough room. You just don’t know how they’ll ride.
@spvimagery3527
@spvimagery3527 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eddy, love your contents so helpful. Can you do a video on going on hairpin corners roads usually not on main roads but more like smaller Mt roads.
@trafficon2wheels
@trafficon2wheels 2 жыл бұрын
awesome video Greg, I ride a Fat Bob because I like how it performs. I don’t care if it doesn’t look like my pop’s Harley. my bike, my pace, and I get home every time…that’s the goal while having fun.
@Chenducp
@Chenducp Жыл бұрын
@MotoJitsu, thanks a ton for these amazing videos, I've been riding for 25 years. However, after watching your videos I've realised how much I can improve my riding . I'm trying to find some videos on riding in the mountains with never ending hairpin bends. Can you make video on it please.
@AnomadAlaska
@AnomadAlaska 2 жыл бұрын
I learned this lesson very nearly the hard way. I vividly remember overcooking a corner back in the 80's (still in my teens) and using every inch of the oncoming lane to keep the bike under me. Very powerful lesson that could have easily ended up with me in bad shape or dead. Luckily I just cleaned my underpants and rode home with my tail between my legs that day.
@shawnmulherin4558
@shawnmulherin4558 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing once. Good thing nothing was coming.
@kenstaroz1536
@kenstaroz1536 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and well said!!! Love it. Drum the message in! 👍
@eazyrider6122
@eazyrider6122 Жыл бұрын
With a slower entry speed you can also have time to pick up any hazards on the corner. Things like spills, loose gravel, rocks, wild animals etc, once you've found your apex and you can see your wayout and all is clear you can sing shot out of the corner. Trail braking is a great method to learn. And never grab the brakes like youve said ain other videos.
@ekcoualfamusic-9367
@ekcoualfamusic-9367 2 жыл бұрын
this is gold, that's all that needs to be said, keep it coming!
@flow_922
@flow_922 Жыл бұрын
I've been riding sport bikes for very long time and like I said I totally agree with everything you're saying you slow down get your angle in your line picked out once you're in position in the heart of the corner you can start getting on the throttle way early earlier than if you go into fast right..... Doesn't it make more sense to get back on the throttle quicker? Pretty simple when you think about it that way right
@AnthemX100
@AnthemX100 2 жыл бұрын
Slow in, fast out. The golden rule!
@olga912000
@olga912000 2 жыл бұрын
I just learned that today . Great video ☺️
@TimRHillard
@TimRHillard 2 жыл бұрын
So right about group riding. Also, you get a pack of motorcycles racing close together on the street, one goes down they almost always take others down hard with them.
@derekderek2570
@derekderek2570 2 жыл бұрын
12:15 exactly. Well said. It's a look at sometimes integrity
@cpar789
@cpar789 2 жыл бұрын
My father-in-law is a wicked fast rider. My rule is that if I can see him I'm taking the corners too fast and need to slow down
@eliasw0rld
@eliasw0rld 2 жыл бұрын
@11:00 is a great message for all riders. Don’t let your ego be the reason you crash
@HaroldSchranz
@HaroldSchranz 2 жыл бұрын
From experience, it is very rarely necessary to get on the brakes (hard) - engine braking/rolling off the throttle is usually enough to go through the flow of most corners , and esses, and flip flops and sweepers ... it is just like skiing well. Every road has its flow.
@flow_922
@flow_922 Жыл бұрын
Exactly I couldn't agree more and going into the corner too fast you will slide your front tire and we all know that ain't no good but coming out of the corner and getting on the gas if you spend the back tire just fine as long as you stay in it and you're confident in doing such it could actually be fun...... but sliding your front tire out is zero fun very rarely does it hook back up you're done.
@Mr.Robert1
@Mr.Robert1 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you spoke about the same thing in different ways for over 13 minutes. Talk about repetition, I know for certain people that are not too bright you have to bang things into their head and they learn through repetition. Me on the other hand tell me something once, and that's all I need. Once I hear somebody repeating themselves when talking to me I tell them, "you told me that already, I heard you" Talking about the same exact thing for over 13 minutes I can't believe I watched it. Good luck to whoever benefited from it I didn't. I started riding when I was 13, I'm now 50. I have been through everything. Including getting hit by a car on the way to work.
@randallreece3636
@randallreece3636 2 жыл бұрын
Always sound instruction. As new rider, I am ALL EARS. Thank you, sir.
@Mrm27274
@Mrm27274 2 жыл бұрын
I love your channel. Great information tied together with wisdom. You’re a great teacher.
@maxslavuta
@maxslavuta 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You, I totally agree. A few months ago I met a group of riders, and they asked me to join. Then I realized they were riding way too fast for me, but since some of them were on two times less powerful bikes I was trying to catch them and accelerate hard on every straight line. So I felt shame and fear at the same time, I thought - WTF I'm on the 900c bike (Tracer) but can't catch the guy on ktm 490 with trail tires. Then I remember what you say in your video, calmed down, and switched to my comfort pace
@danbevin6100
@danbevin6100 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video , it makes so much sense . Ride your ride the way you want , not what everyone else is doing . The objective it to be able to ride another day .
@PepperGeorge
@PepperGeorge 2 жыл бұрын
Motojitsu reads my mind, crashed yesterday by keeping up with riders in the group and making a bad decision. This video comes at the right time for me
@pietrovardi9583
@pietrovardi9583 2 жыл бұрын
Right time would have been the day before yesterday, then. Glad you were not hurt bad.
@jimmallery294
@jimmallery294 2 жыл бұрын
Good advice. We should always ride out own ride. Others can wait for me or I can wait for them. Doesn't matter to me.
@Sherry-jx9hs
@Sherry-jx9hs 2 жыл бұрын
How do you keep insurance at a rate of 4 totaled bikes in a year. We should ask MaxWrist. He has been so lucky unlike a couple of his friends. Great advice. I used to want to be a speed demon but scared myself and adjusted my attitude to do I want to live or die. I choose living
@stevec-b6214
@stevec-b6214 Жыл бұрын
agreed! i ride 99 percent alone so i dont have the peer pressure. i have a massive factor of safety in turns, went to a race school at 22yrs and learnt my lessons. (now 68)
@edmund5107
@edmund5107 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree, you must be comfortable driving a bike, don't be stupid and risk your life because your buddies try to make fun of you.
@ΣΠΥΡΟΣΛΑΜΠΡΟΥ-ζ6β
@ΣΠΥΡΟΣΛΑΜΠΡΟΥ-ζ6β 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations Graig, very good advises during the video. Everybody has to watch it.
@nicerides9224
@nicerides9224 2 жыл бұрын
One thing people need to remember when watching racers on tv or yt dragging knees or elbows is that these guys know the corners they are taking very well. They aren't coming up to some unknown corner and taking it super fast at extreme lean angles. They know every bump and they know from countless other times on that same corner how fast they can take it. They couldn't ride the same way on public roads they are unfamiliar with even if they are champion riders.
@stephenscharf6293
@stephenscharf6293 2 жыл бұрын
Bang on the money! Exactly correct guidance. I'll provide a quote by the 3-time FIA 500cc GP World Champion, Kenny Roberts: "I'd rather go in slow and come out fast, than go in fast and come out...DEAD."
@slept-on_SP
@slept-on_SP 2 жыл бұрын
Yep I learned this the hard way, but I mustve had an angel watching over me because 100mph around a blind corner only to find 2 cars parked at a dead stop on a 2 lane highway road (the same road type as the one in the first half of the video). I locked my rear up (93 fzr 600 + No ABS) and started fish tail carving, luckily I pointed the bike to the right shoulder prior to locking the back wheel and narrowly found my exit path with a margin of error of around 1-2ft. Made it home unscathed and only had to replace my rear wheel bearings and a bent rear rotor.
@iainamurray
@iainamurray 2 жыл бұрын
I did a biker training course with the UK Police and their mantra was “Go in slow, come out fast” and it so makes sense.
@mithunkartha
@mithunkartha 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for opening the comments section.
@johnanderson9735
@johnanderson9735 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely ‘Ride Your Own Ride’. Some group leaders have told me I would be left behind if I didn’t keep up (other group members voiced displeasure with that statement) However Ride Your Own Ride is stuck in my head, besides I had GPS on my phone and on the bike, I wasn’t going to cave to the pressure either way. Corners became easier for me after intermediate level courses.
@gnarthdarkanen7464
@gnarthdarkanen7464 2 жыл бұрын
PREACH... One tiny point for clarity, though... Discipline comes from NOT EVER "giving myself a pass". Basically BE HONEST with yourself, and you'll practically never go wrong. If more people JUST learned to say the phrases "My bad" and "Yep, I fucked up"... THEN a lot of the world would simply transform for the better... Almost magically... but it STARTS with just admitting to YOURSELF, "It's okay that I take this curve at 40... because fuck-it." James May was "Captain Slow" his ENTIRE TENURE on "Top Gear" and that didn't change when they were tossed from BBC and Amazon picked them up. You know something??? He's PLENTY SKILLED at the wheel of anything you ask him to drive. He passes test and exam after test and exam. He also cashes his paychecks AND MAKES IT HOME in good shape. Funny how that works. Eh? Randy Mamola was pretty huge in his time, too... He raced AND WON MotoGP for 13 Years... Made it into the Hall of Fame, WITHOUT A SINGLE SERIOUS ACCIDENT OR INJURY. Think about that while you contemplate "Who should I emulate?" along the names of celebrated "gear-heads" from Evel Knievel to Max Wrist and every dumb-ass splattering him or herself all over pavement "for fame and glory"... ;o)
@thenexthobby
@thenexthobby 2 жыл бұрын
Well said, especially the suggestion for how to consider speed/capability increases for a given corner repeatedly.
@DarkmanRides
@DarkmanRides 2 жыл бұрын
Paraphrasing what he said.... no matter what vehicle you're driving don't let somebody else drive it for you. Don't let your comfort and control become complacency. Been riding for a while you think you got this you don't pay attention that's when it gets you. It'll usually happen after the first two or three years that you feel confident. Be on guard for it you'll do it subconsciously.
@CorvusHyperion
@CorvusHyperion 2 жыл бұрын
"Be selfish with your entry speed", I like that. Well said.
@kurushunwalla
@kurushunwalla 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience. Cheers
@markdoolan7282
@markdoolan7282 2 жыл бұрын
All good if you know your route or the road you’re on. Problem is when on a unfamiliar road that you presume you are going to be fine with and once you’re in there it’s tighter than you guessed and then suddenly you get that feeling in too hot so you got to do all the stuff you mention , off throttle, gently calmly apply increasing front and back brake pressure and look through the corner and try to lean the bike in as much as your composure can handle and hope you pull it off and come out clean.
@merkabah1677
@merkabah1677 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video for newbies.. Ride to your own capabilities first and utmost law of crutch rockets.. Nice video Chris 👍and some really great advice..
@skypechess
@skypechess 2 жыл бұрын
Well, you taught me one important sentence and that one covers this video perfectly: Be a boring rider. I watched that video and that changed my life, seriously.
@pirquo
@pirquo 2 жыл бұрын
WELL SAID.. in the past (before cell phones), I was the drummer in a band. My drums were in the band van so I opted to ride my GL1100 and follow them. this is before Google Maps and I didn't know the way. Needless to say they were flying in the van. I chose to give up trying to keep up.. Somehow I found my way to the gig - Alive - ... they all thought it was funny that they were going over rises in the road so fast that the band equipment was airborne.. didn't think that was at all funny.. bottom line, I purposely didn't keep up and lived.. sad to say, a few years later, my friend who was driving the van that day, died on his Honda V65 Magna.. it's all bad when you're out of your safety/comfort/skill zone.. DO NOT DO IT
@keithhults8986
@keithhults8986 2 жыл бұрын
There are a few choice curves that peg scrape plenty. The yellow speed warning sign says 20mph I regularly go 50-60mph on my Deuce. I did 80mph in a 2002BMW M-Roadster through the Lattingtown road curves. A fellow rider likes your videos. I watch some of your gitzu stuff. I like Ride like a Pro. Jerry the motor man! Practicing and mastering precise slow maneuvers becomes a great benefit to my skills at 100+mph. If you cannot control your bike at slower speeds, you should not be testing your limits. Dress for the fall. I have fallen, and never ended up hospitalized, and I still have all my flesh. I keep a bandana on my handlebars. It's a valuable first aid tool. Any boy scout that earned a first aid merit badge knows how to use a bandana to save your riding buddies life.
@mhoeij
@mhoeij 2 жыл бұрын
The right speed also depends on how many things need our attention. The other day I was going through a roundabout (turning left) and I looked right to see if traffic was entering (they shouldn't because traffic on the roundabout has the right of way, but it could happen anyway). In any case, looking right to check for traffic (while turning left) could make the bike go wide if we don't paying attention. So if we take a turn quickly, we can't do that on auto-pilot.
@millie179
@millie179 2 жыл бұрын
I wish we had more of this kind of attitude towards motorcycles in tge UK... They are fun, cheap and one of the best social tools available and in a tough economic climate they should be a sensible alternative means of transport 🤔
@984francis
@984francis 2 жыл бұрын
I so need to make this lesson mine, being if I try to keep up and then crash, it's me that get's hurt. Every ride is MY ride.
@bajaadventurerider
@bajaadventurerider 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you turned comments back on! Great video
@ianmackenzie686
@ianmackenzie686 2 жыл бұрын
Yay! I got this one right before Greg said it. Excess speed kills, simple as that. Hence why I don't really like group rides.
@richardolagat9146
@richardolagat9146 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that very good advise brod. Your really right on that point. Always you..
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