The DEADLIEST Natural Disaster in Utah History | Keyhole Seven Tragedy

On September 14th, 2015 Utah experienced the worst flash flood in its history. There were few warnings and those caught in the park during the storm would have to fight for their lives....This is their story.
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[@roo3534]

My father, brother, and I actually got stuck in an canyon nearby during this flood, I remember my father putting my brother and I under an overhang of rocks to keep the hail from pelting us while he found a path out. He had to throw me and my brother over a raging rapid of water to finally get back to our car. We ended up being okay but it was definitely a scary moment.

[@a.w.thompson4001]

It sounds terrifying. I'm sure your dad was frightened that you might all die, but he did a great job of getting you all out of that situation safely.

[@roo3534]

@@a.w.thompson4001 I was around 10 at the time so in my mind it was an awesome adventure lol. But this video made me think back and realize how dangerous it actually was.

[@barbrice721]

Your father is a Heroic. Dedicated Man. He knew what he had to do.

[@rockysjewel]

wow. so scary and really glad you all made it out

[@hhazelhoff1363]

Drink beer and chill

[@GengoSenmon]

As someone who did not grow up in the Southwest but lived there for awhile, you truly can't grasp how severe and sudden a flash flood in that desert area is. Do not underestimate it.

[@annt7384]

Agreed. Desert weather is severe, sudden, and dangerous.

[@mariamadrigal544]

They’ve should have sound alarms to warn people about the flooding.

[@annt7384]

@@mariamadrigal544 it’s only for very specific areas; not like a tornado warning.

[@AspiePilo82]

Do not go.

[@danabreakforest1688]

​@@mariamadrigal544 it wouldn't matter if they are down those little canyons. They are done.

[@YochevedDesigns]

You really have no idea how severe that topography is, until the camera pulls back and you realize that the little ants down there are actually people.

[@janetspell1396]

That’s the same thing I thought on my first ever trip transport flying on an airplane! Looking out the window down to earth at thousands of miles,.. every thing moving looked like tiny ants.🐜

[@jaimevalencia6271]

I took a fat shit and when I looked down it was the size of an ant. Perspective is everything

[@mikeh892]

Aye. A bit of perspective goes a long way. Ask anyone who has ever been in a combat landing.

[@janetspell1396]

@@mikeh892 I can’t even imagine that one,.. although my husband was a Vietnam War Veteran he never talked about it, never! He injured his left knee and that’s all I know. He just passed 4 months ago from a sudden and unexpected late stage 4 terminal cancer. He even medals that none of us knew about for a mission that him and 5 other Marines were sent on some hill to rescue 3 other marines trapped by the enemy. One of our Son’s who also served 5 years in Marine Corps. found out about it after his Dad died and had a special display box made. God bless all who have to go off and fight in Wars.

[@leonoliber6201]

Fully agree. Zion National Park is formidable overwhelming.

[@robhenningsen6210]

Starting so late in the day was a serious mistake. Departure time is the only solid thing that you can control out there. Always leave plenty if daylight hours ahead of you. For your own extraction and rescue teams, this daylight can mean the difference between life and death. Every climb I’ve done began before, or at the crack of dawn. Leaving every second of available time. Saved my skin more than once.

[@67redhead]

That's what I was thinking too. Start early!

[@loditx7706]

@justwannasay5454: Or, sleep in, and don't go at all! 😴😳👍🛌

[@vidademikey9790]

You know what could save your skin? Not canyoning. 😮

[@c.5376]

​@vidademikey9790 stay bubble wrapped bro! ❤

[@jamsquan9415]

@@vidademikey9790 hope you're not this condescending to people in real life about their interests man, it's not for me but a lot of people live for extreme sports and would rather die young than be a homebody like us.

[@j.griffin]

Speaking for those who also feel like I do- We all appreciate your diligent story telling WITH A HUMAN VOICE, No less! ☝🏾🤠👍🏾 I listen to many similar channels but yours does stand out as more sincere and less sensationalistic. Thank You for Posting!

[@TerrorTwin]

Thank you. That is definitely my intentions.

[@j.griffin]

@@TerrorTwin Keep Up The Good Work!

[@SierraForeTweny]

bro spinning on it , lol jk

[@HandyMan657]

@@TerrorTwin Hopefully YT doesn't demonatize you for being a human. They seem to be pushing a lot of AI these days and shutting human creators down. p.s. subbed

[@sabevabg]

Thank you from me , too.

[@miapdx503]

I once lived in Colorado and I've seen flash floods, I've seen dry creek beds become raging rivers...in a moment. My heart goes out to their loved ones...I can't imagine expecting someone to come home...and they don't. Hopefully, from their loss, lives have been saved. People know to be cautious... Some of the most beautiful places in the world are also the most dangerous. Be safe people! 🌹

[@loditx7706]

@miapdx503 When I lived in Texas I saw drainage ditches in major cities flood acres of land and claim lives, especially children whose parents would let them play unsupervised in flood waters.

[@ciarajeanr]

I live right outside Zion. We have flash flood warnings everywhere. They're near constant in the summer monsoon season. People still die every year, locals and tourists. I refuse to go hiking in the canyons from late July to early September. The flooding here is insane. I've had to help my mom sandbag her home twice from the rivers overflowing. Rain here is no joke. PS. Zion is pronounced like Lion.

[@Kaceygr400]

Easiest way to know if someone is from Utah is how they pronounce Zion.

[@ciarajeanr]

@@Kaceygr400 We have all kinds of weird pronunciations 🤣

[@kyleeconrad]

​@@ciarajeanrYea we do, names of cities and people!

[@SurfingTubes]

@@ciarajeanr 3:07 Group leader "55 year old semi-retired from a garmet dining facility..." They consume garmets? I think he means "Gourmet" dining? Pronouced Goor-may' ... thinking these youtube vids are made by AI?

[@IhaveaDoghouse]

@@SurfingTubesgarment, like fabric lol.

[@Bigdizzlebacon]

Your storytelling makes these horrifying stories bearable. Love the new format!

[@johnrossford7927]

Welcome back Terror Twin! I like this format. I think a good mix of long videos and short videos are fine. Some stories just don't take long and some have more detail. So, make the stories as long as they need. Also, I REALLY REALLY would like to see a separate video on Wanda Rutkiewicz, as you've spoken of her at least twice and I like how you narrate. Also, I like the rare survival story you do. Keep up the good work and can't wait to see more!

[@kamakaziozzie3038]

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[@TerrorTwin]

Thank you! I will definitely look into her story - one of the mountaineering greats!

[@johnrossford7927]

@@TerrorTwin I can't wait!

[@hippiecuster4366]

Nature doesn't care. It's as dangerous as it is beautiful. And it's really, really, beautiful.

[@psiturbo]

It's almost like that wonderful light coming out of an alien spaceship, so dangerous, yet so beautiful! 👽

[@sazziestar202]

This was told with dignity and respect and I wholeheartedly believe that nature did its own unpredictable thing that day and NO ONE COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS SAD TRAGEDY. RIP to all those who lost their lives ❤

[@Dxn6alc03Belod7m1o]

One thing that might have helped is if they had started out earlier in the day. Why risk going on any hike in the late afternoon, esp. when you might get caught at dusk? You have to allow for hours of extra time in case someone gets sick or injured and slows way down or has to have help getting out. With those narrow "cliffs" on either side, it must get pretty dark in places and as the sun gets lower, even moreso. I'm not a morning person at all, but I will get up at 6 or 7 a.m. to go hiking by 8 or 9 so that I can be finished by mid afternoon. While bad weather can happen at any time, it seems to me from many years of experience and seeing many news stories, that mornings are often calmer but the heating and condensing, etc. (I'm no meteorologist) often cause the weather to get more active during the day. Not blaming anyone, just an observation.

[@jacksonthompson6831]

My uncle is the head ranger at Zion and told us about this incident right after it happened, he led the group to recover the bodies. Nonetheless, well made and interesting video

[@Petitestyling]

Steve and Linda were such a power couple, a strong and adventurous couple. I had a meetup hiking group back then and they often joined our full moon hikes, Linda most often. Being at least 20+years younger than them…I thought I was fit-ish…Linda would leave me in the dust in our tougher hikes. She was so down to earth. I remember posting a full moon/potluck hike but weather was cold and strong winds, most everyone signed up cancelled…not Linda. The 4 of us enjoyed and laughed about how we were drinking wine with dirt in it cause of the wind but we’d not let a full moon pass us up. ❤️ RIP Keyhole 7 A bench on a trail in CA was dedicated to them.

[@ajtorchia9983]

Hahahahaahahah

[@carolynw3602]

I met Muku at several hikes in SoCal, and she was very fit, an amazing hiker and a very caring individual, this still makes me so sad..

[@Petitestyling]

@@carolynw3602 so sad indeed

[@shellied7465]

🙏🙏🙏

[@jessekelly8132]

@carolynw3602 Couldn’t agree more with your characterization of Muku. I will always remember her searching for heart-shaped rocks in the deserts and mountains…

[@stephanieferguson723]

I hiked the subway in Zions in 2006 and we were extremely aware of the weather. We went with a man who had been hiking the area for a decade. We started at 6am so we would have plenty of time to enjoy the hike and get down to the exit trail before dinner. It was a great experience. But I learned to respect those areas.

[@karynkiger1542]

I worked with the son of the Arthur’s and remember this so well. He was absolutely so devastated. 😢

[@mariekatherine5238]

I’m claustrophobic and would never go into a slot canyon beyond sight of the entrance.

[@talithas2723]

Same. Pictures are enough for me

[@alexandraherbias8830]

I never knew i was claustrophobic until i was inside a cave..that would be my last adventure

[@anotherdaywithmoneejakajus1696]

Facts. I'm getting anxiety watching it.

[@anotherdaywithmoneejakajus1696]

​@@alexandraherbias8830omg, just the thought. Scary..

[@c.5376]

Good for you. Stay inside. Stay safe.

[@MorganWhite-si7ty]

I was in a flash flood in New Braunfels, TX in October of 1998. I was 7 years old at the time, but the devastation is still fresh in my mind. I believe 24 people ended up losing their lives during this flood, and we were nearly part of that statistic. My mother was at work when the rain started, and by lunchtime, we had to go and pick her up because of the intense flooding in certain areas. The drive there wasn't very eventful, but the trip back was terrifying. By the time we reached the freeway, the water was almost up to our car windows, and I could see the rapids flooding over parked cars, pushing them down the road on nearby side-streets. By the time we made it back home, we were rescued by my aunt and uncle to stay at my grandparent's house, which was at the top of Common street, the highest point in the city. The next day, the Guadalupe river crested 100 feet above it's banks, and I could hear screaming as a house that used to be on the banks was floating down the river and crashed against the bridge there. The sights and sounds of that flood still haunt me to this day...

[@jordanradociful]

Wow I’m so sorry I live in wimberley I know about the flooding the the area. Very tragic

[@opulentlilt455]

I appreciated the explanation of how canyoneering differs from rock climbing. I enjoy rock climbing but would hate caving. So, this video was very useful to me. Especially knowing, once you repel you are totally committed to the end. Very sad loss for the individuals.

[@JudasMaccabeus1]

Rock climbing and caving are basically inverse: one goes up into the open air, the other goes down into the abyss.

[@GrubbyPaddler]

You should go canyoning… it’s a different sort of exposure

[@debrapendleton2459]

As a Utahnian I thank you for covering this. We live in beautiful country but it sure can be ruthless.😢🎉

[@AdamThygerson-lm1gt]

*Utahn is the proper term

[@AdamThygerson-lm1gt]

@HVACMAN-c7v utah, usa, utahn is the term for people who live in utah

[@Argantonio-b2r]

You can always go back to Europe and give back the land to the natives

[@dahltonray5231]

@@Argantonio-b2rwhy? It’s not their land anymore sorry 🤷‍♂️

[@Argantonio-b2r]

@@dahltonray5231 it still is. Parasytes are just that. Be a big boy and post your address to prove me wrong ;)

[@JB-ot7sd]

I've heard the story before. But never in that detail. Well done.

[@AstraLuna-o9i]

Have lived in AZ my whole life, my parents, grandparents, great grandparents all here for a century. The power of monsoon storms is not to be underestimated. We were taught to stay the hell out of canyons and river beds during the monsoons, as it can be clear skies over you and dumping 5 inches of rain 20 miles up stream. Slot canyons are especially dangerous. There is no escape. Hope people see this extremely tragic story and take extreme caution when out in the canyons during monsoon season. RIP to these hikers.

[@Rickswars]

I always 🙏 before hiking and came out safe with God!

[@kelseamarie]

This is the first video of yours I’ve seen. Instant subscribe! Love how the information was presented while still maintaining respect for the victims.

[@christophercollins7604]

If anyone out there does this ,canyon hiking ,if this happens to you,climb to high ground and wait it out ,it's not worth your life to try to go through it,it doesn't have to be a mountain top ,just a few feet above the water,it will be a lot fast and then it will disipate and get a lot less water,flash flood is just what it sounds like it happens quickly and it ends quickly...be safe

[@karltheman266]

Ok Christopher...

[@AdamThygerson-lm1gt]

The thing is the water carved sandstone of slots in southern utah is so dang slick, most areas its impossible to climb.

[@christophercollins7604]

@@AdamThygerson-lm1gt it's sink or swim at that point , hopefully you can find a place to get up higher so you don't have to...

[@christophercollins7604]

@@AdamThygerson-lm1gt I have been in slot canyons where there is not any where to go up I hear you,calico basin in Red Rock is straight up and down not any ledges hundreds of feet high and very long we hiked 22miles of it then turned around took two days..

[@sparkymac3320]

You’re cute.

[@SuperDave-vj9en]

If you live in desert country you know that thunderstorms only occur in the afternoon. The mornings are the best time to explore slot canyons when the danger is lowest.

[@fazeinhaze2687]

Exactly, but why?

[@randot6675]

​@@fazeinhaze2687Humidity builds up during the day

[@fazeinhaze2687]

@@randot6675 Make sense. I live in a subtropical country. Afternoon-shower is frequent during the summer. I went to Zion a couple times and had the impression that it is bone dry. Seeing the torrent in Zion in this film is quite shocking to me.

[@timvalentine4149]

Thank you. Exactly the confirmation I was looking for. I have only climbed in the Sierra, not in Utah or Arizona. Afternoon summer thunderstorms are a common occurrence. Morning thunderstorms are quite rare. You try to be off of a peak by midday to avoid the lightning and the precipitation.

[@ryanjacobson2508]

I'm in the Upper Midwest, bad warm season weather also is most common in the late afternoon and early evening. I think due to the fact that it's hottest at that time of day.

[@TruthIris]

I really appreciate the visuals of the canyons, live video and the stunning topography. Well told account.

[@MrProAntagonist]

First time viewer. I enjoyed this. Keep it coming.

[@silviabelluomini2456]

You will never have to worry about me dying while rock climbing, mountain climbing, canyoneering, caving, diving, Everesting, Death valley camping ...

[@1105pitbull]

Luckily my semi-claustrophobia would preclude me from ever braving that topography. So very sorry for this tragedy.

[@jinka6171]

Me too…. Morbid claustrophobia!

[@GrubbyPaddler]

Maybe experiencing the discomfort, and challenging those fears is exactly why you should, it’s a special feeling in a canyon, deep in the embrace of the earthly mother

[@1105pitbull]

@GrubbyPaddler no need to face that one, thx

[@iluop3623]

​@@GrubbyPaddleror maybe not

[@mann_idonotreadreplies]

Lucky u

[@elizabethboone4507]

We just had a flash flood that flooded our home in minutes. There was zero warning; it rained 5-6 inches in a few hours and the ground was already saturated from a tropical storm the day before. We did not receive any kind of weather alert until fifteen or so minutes after the flooding began. It was terrifying how quickly things changed. I think people are so used to getting flash flood warnings on their phones and not seeing the actual life-threatening floods that can happen, that perhaps it's easy to overlook.

[@Tryp-j9d]

ALL that rain WAS on YOUR internet RADAR, for HOURS!!! You ABSOLUTELY SHOULD have SEEN it COMING. For HOURS!!!

[@taylortouma4122]

@@Tryp-j9d you forget that weather radars are PREDICTIONS. the weather forecast isn’t set in stone it’s a ***PREDICTION***. don’t be so insensitive and hateful to this girl. gross. also it’s called flash flooding for a reason. it comes out of nowhere and happens fast. lord have mercy people have lost their way with the sheer lack of common sense

[@martinschulz9381]

I've never been in any danger, but I've seen flash floods come in dry areas. It gets dark quickly and the rain comes fast and hard. Within minutes there's water collecting everywhere. Good video.

[@TaleTwist-z1n]

I really can't understand what kind of fun people get by risking their lives in such dangerous places for the sake of exploring nature or whatever you call it..

[@ritarucker8320]

It’s not a requirement for us to understand. That’s just who adventure seekers are. It’s in their blood, like bikers, climbers. People who super enjoy thrills & the hugeness of nature cannot be found around concentrations of people & urban & suburbia.

[@ritarucker8320]

Glad this popped up in KZbin for me. Great story teller!❤

[@WowOafus]

@HVACMAN-c7vwould you prefer everyone stays inside their home 24/7? And to be safe, no electricity, as we wouldn’t want fires, and all food needs to be turned into a pudding consistency so no one chokes. People would need to sleep on the floor because hundreds of people die a year falling out of bed. We all take risks every day. Those taking more risks aren’t assholes. Assholes are those who make others do dangerous acts.

[@mbrownie22]

Assholes are those that criticize what other people do

[@CYMotorsport]

12:38 you do it again here. I don’t mean with malice or anything l- just be mindful. I say all this bc I’ve been in canyons in this area. And I’ve made the call to avoid Expeditions being overly cautious based on similar warnings or predictions even when I may not agree but follow for safety and u truly think I’ve been spared some tough situations. I specifically cite this incident habitually as a working example of why you never lose track of weather when given a bad forecast. No matter the sky. If you can’t get an instantaneous update whether due to cell reception or lack of reliable update, then you don’t go. You’re clearly referencing the outsideonline article as this video matches beat for beat but you said conditions couldn’t have been more perfect but in trying to slightly change some of their words, your change actually altered their words more than appropriate. We call that editorializing. You’re letting your own agenda and position dictate the facts. The article says “sliver of sky was blue”. Important bc the article was operating off the fact that by then the sky wasn’t even close to blue. Their point was only that portion overhead remained blue and the rest was not. Not as a landscape. Outside the canyon they 100% would have seen The storm at this point. But you make it sound like even by this point the sky was a secret. No. That’s false. Just for them. They only could see a tiny bit. It’s outright false the sky was ideal. The facts remain true either way they couldn’t see it from their pov but you have overtly further positioned this as some secret storm when a “flash flood is likely” report was given to you hours before, a sliver of blue sky isn’t solace. 8:26 I understand this is how outsideonline website that you clearly referenced positioned the weather aspect of the story but you’re not telling the full details. Flash flood was “probable”. This starts and ends there. This wasn’t some freak storm as you’ve made it sound. Saying things like the weather was obscured is preposterous. Their training included atleast that part that the naked eye can’t predict weather. It would be one thing if it said clear weather. The reports mention a phone open showing “dry” but also keep it mind it said it was from NOAA. Meaning that views likely the weather at that exact time. Which was dry. That’s not controversial. Their inability to see beyond the Whitestone doesn’t mean they are exempt from maintaining weather diligence. If you are going into an enclosed area underground and are given guidance at the very time of your permit issuance that a “flash flood is likely” and also told it’s best to wait, at no point in that day should you find yourself not keeping an accurate reading of the weather. Just bc it’s dry one moment and appears clear is not proof of anything. Ppl explain their actions by saying “they didn’t have service” . They did have service. Just not in one specific area. It wasnt terribly inconvenient or cumbersome either to go back and get service which is especially prudent when flash floods are “probable” . It just makes me sad the comments saying they were cautious which frankly isn’t accurate. Plenty of ppl avoiding that area bc of the warning they were confined to have received earlier. It’s a sad tragedy but we can’t pretend they’re not lessons or ppl won’t adhere to them. Eg How you tell this story which is the same retelling from the main coverage leaves out the initial flash flood prediction and the corroborating reports of those who steered clear. Told like it’s a freak storm doesn’t hold ppl accountable to maintain diligent watch on weather to fulfill its predictions. Like I said, it’s one thing if the reports never came in of a flash flood being likely. But it did.

[@ewidontlikeyou]

He isn't reading this essay. 😅

[@MyViewon_Life]

​@@ewidontlikeyou no one is 😂

[@NicoleStevensHays11x]

Why didn’t they look at the radar? Sigh

[@BeKindToEveryKind295]

I read it and am grateful for the clarification

[@AllThingsFabrication]

This is a clear lesson on personal responsibility. The people blaming others for this accident highlights how many people in our society that don't believe in personal responsibility!

[@barbarajeffries]

Thank you for covering this tragedy. I was living in Utah then. The horror of the FLDS families' deaths was overwhelming, and the canyoneering deaths didn't register as much as the loss of the moms and kids. This news trickled out and became the second tragedy associated ith the storm. Southern Utah's redrock country is my favorite part of the USA. The sadness of all the deaths stays with me still, 19 years later.

[@vjs4539]

There was also a hurricane, Utah man that was further down the short creek that was killed. So 21 lives were lost in that storm.

[@mea1831]

“Didn’t register as much as the moms and kids?” Are you crazy? Did you just get off the Titanic? Those 7 lives were just as important as anyone else. Goodness sake.

[@traceyscadden8576]

@@mea1831 I think what she was saying . The moms and kids received more coverage than this group :(

[@NicoleStevensHays11x]

F LDS? Sigh, those are the “fundamental”Mormons who embrace polygamy and the other strange things. Warren Jeffs was one. Bleh

[@barbarabrown3219]

Anyone who has lived in the Soutthwest ought to know the sudden fury of water after a heavy rsin. I grew up in CO & lived within about 75' of a small gurgling creek. During a particularly heavy rain we kept an eye on the rushing water in the creek. Within hours it had risen 15'. The sounds of rumbling & crashing brought us to the edge of the embankment & we watched as boulders the size of refrigerators come rolling down from upstream. You dont fool with Mother Nature & you quickly learn to respect her or pay with your life.

[@jeffstrom164]

I really dislike people saying they did nothing wrong, that this was a freak accident. No, it wasnt. It flash floods regularly. They were warned. They went anyway. They were novices going during the worse possible time. They saw storms around them. They should not have entered. It was an unfortunate mistake that ended in deaths.

[@mongeau98]

It's like all the climbers who decide to climb the most fatal and deadly mountains in the world like Mount Everest or K2 and in the end die and can't be brought back for a proper funeral for the most part. People do anything to feel adrenaline and some assume that they have to do something extreme in their life for this life to be.

[@normalgirlcvco]

The warning came after they lost signal. They didn’t know it was coming

[@jeffstrom164]

@@normalgirlcvco They were warned about it before they went in. They knew about the storms and flash flooding. They acted dumb and paid the price.

[@LisaFerguson-lw8il]

@@normalgirlcvco That's why they should not have gone ahead.

[@jtomyhope575]

​@jeffstrom164 you really need to stop with this narrative. It's incredibly callous of you. They had checked the weather before leaving, and there were no warnings. Other professional canyoneers were also in the canyon that day was passed by them. You need to check your own ego, cuz it's ugly af.

[@evanswackyvideos6027]

Why didn't Jim report to authorities about the 7 people that his group of 3 passed, he said he knew they were in trouble because of what his small group experienced on their way out, water waist deep, he knew they were moving slow and inexperienced and he knew how high the water rose quickly. Why didn't he call for help for them? That makes no sense to me, anyone of those 3 people that barely made it out of there should have called for help for those people they knew were still in that canyon.

[@elaineblair5038]

Yes I didn’t understand that either.

[@Shastasnow]

I wanted to ask the same thing or even put in a 911 call about it so they could have looked for them sooner.

[@loditx7706]

@@evanswackyvideos6027 I seriously doubt there was any way to get 7 people out of that narrow space before the water overtook them. Even a helicopter hovering directly overhead would probably not be able to winch even one person up in the time available after flying there and locating them (which in a thunderstorm, they probably couldn't do). It's easy to say why didn't somebody do something. Share with us exactly what you think could have been done, and by whom.

[@loditx7706]

@@Shastasnow Yeah, it would have helped them if their bodies were found sooner. I'm no expert, but looking at that slot and the rocks and high stone sides, it's my belief each was dead before their body cleared the canyon.

[@Shastasnow]

@@loditx7706 I believe you are right.

[@VallyGee]

So sad. That landscape is so spectacular.

[@sammiip1621]

You just showed up in my feed. Thank you for this video ❤❤ so sorry for the unimaginable loss to these families ❤❤

[@Markjr778]

Good job I always injoy you're story telling! My prayers 🙏 go out to there loved ones!

[@StefenVincent]

The story starts at 10:00

[@GanMan7]

I just skipped through the first 6mins before I read this comment

[@numericaldust4712]

Right! Jeez

[@IgnisMonstrum]

I love how you tell these stories

[@TerrorTwin]

Thank you!

[@diannshowers9129]

Yeah I wouldn't be going into those tight spaces

[@Hate_Tube_SLime]

*NO WAY OUT SPACES!!!!*

[@sinickasdavis2159]

Me either I will be watching from my phone, TV, tablet only no way

[@nomadzoom9260]

Flash floods are no joke. The way the weather shifts in the desert is un matched. I was so close to being in a slot canyon during a flash flood. We had just pulled up to drop into the slot canyon when it started to drizzle so we decided to head back. Within 15-30 mins it went from blue skies to unmatched rain & 100mph winds. An hour later there was 12” of mud across the road , returned to our campsite which was 45 mins away and our tent poles had all bent. This vid gives me chills, been to Zion a lot. I’ve spent so much time exploring Utah Arizona Nevada canyons…can have all the experience & if that weather shifts there’s only so much you can do sometimes sadly . Rip

[@jeffmorrison6086]

Zions Canyon is two things, one of the most beautiful places in the world, but it can also be one of the most dangerous places in the world, from what I’ve seen anyways. Severe thunderstorms can generate very quickly late in the afternoon in Southern Utah during that/this time of year!

[@canopusstar5157]

It was decades ago but I do remember taking a short walk in one of the more tourist-y area and I had a lot of misgiving in the narrow spots, and this was nothing to what Keyhole is!

[@becautious.3517]

I have read other people's comments, but a storm, flash flood, etc, happen anytime during the day? This Meaning, it doesn't matter what time of the day a person or group decides to leave out. I am just wondering.

[@oporayamzzz]

Yooo new intro new format letsgooo! So cool, but I'm already missing the old iconic intro haha. Love your vids

[@crazynanaailese]

Nice job on this video. I live in Utah. It's still makes me cry.

[@rebeccaimmel4160]

3:24 “And his wife…”. That’s it? Everyone else gets a description. But I guess Linda is just defined as “his wife.” I’m sorry, Linda. I’ll bet you were more than that.

[@harridan.]

i was annoyed by that, too. "his female appendage, no details needed"

[@cam5816]

It’s really not that serious. You guys need to chill.

[@harridan.]

@@cam5816 grow up

[@cam5816]

@@harridan. I’m rubber, you’re glue. 😌

[@harridan.]

@@cam5816 i want to be rubber!!

[@FuriousGerbil5]

As someone who grew up and lived in the area and worked in Zion for a year it amazes me how these old tourist think they are gonna do these things without trouble. Anyone over the age of 50 need to think better

[@ElizabethMayo-sf4wg]

Thank you for making this video. I hope it can help people in the future.

[@lilylove2021]

Be sensible ❤

[@wilmabrand321]

I love your channel and the stories you tell are fascinating. I watch your videos repeatedly. Keep up the great work 🇨🇦

[@garnetbelial]

Definitely loving this format!

[@TerrorTwin]

I actually really enjoyed making a longer video - I definitely appreciate you watching!

[@mrssunshine3843]

This was very well done!

[@TerrorTwin]

Thank you!

[@kristinekimmel6441]

As a former spelunker, I was taught if there is even one cloud in the sky stay out! Flash Flooding happens so fast you’ve got little to no chance of getting out alive. Always check the weather as you would your gear. So sorry for these folks😢

[@Kristy_not_Kristine]

People also don't realize a flash flood can happen even if it's not raining in the area. My parents were caught in a flash flood in Arizona on a clear day in their town. Can happen wo warning. Their car was swept away and luckily got high ended and they were able to climb out onto the roof. It was Sunday, on their way to church so in church clothes/a dress. Neighbors were able to throw them a rope and pull them in. It was very bizarre! Monsoon season is no joke!

[@ellieinspace]

I thought this was a pretty click bait thumbnail and kinda savage but you told a great story. Thanks for educating us about this.

[@whatjake7898]

I did Keyhole this last summer and took a picture exactly where they did. It was really surreal thinking about it while there..

[@ak3p0]

Another beautiful video. I like the new intro ❤ So sad, though. It really was like the perfect storm of events that ended in their deaths.

[@JMGAIN]

I live in New Mexico and frequently travel to Utah. I can you tell you that some of those slot canyons are no joke.

[@BigstickNick]

I did the Mt Zion trip. The guide warned us about flash floods. He said it sorta awkwardly, but I knew he meant it

[@JosephB-tv7gf]

Fascinating! Thanks. That little adventure I'd pass on, even if bone dry. I don't fancy getting caught or flailing half my skin off from a fall down a narrow crevice. A flood would make thing a thousand time worse. Still, they were grown-ups and made their own informed choices. I hope the state does not bar citizens from the freedom to make such decisions in future.

[@szk4023]

I wonder if there's a limit to how many people can explore a canyon at once? It seems extremely dangerous to do this in a large group (they move too slowly) cause people have to take turns rappelling. In case of an emergency, you literally have to choose or fight over who lives and who dies. Imagine if there had been 40+ people down there at once and it takes an average person 5 min to clear just one obstacle and there are a dozen!

[@loditx7706]

@szk4023 That is a very interesting point of view and seems quite true. Don't know how many viewers here have watched documentaries or read about one of the more severe disasters on Everest. I think one was called Into Thin Air. There was a certain point at which ropes needed to be preplaced and weren't. Each climber had to hold the rope to pull themselves up a steep incline, one at a time. It was an arduous section and novice climbers were very slow, creating a bottle neck of climbers from different groups. There was no alternative apparently and this one failure delayed reaching the summit for many people. The lead experienced commercial guides were also delayed, so no one was effectively in charge at the top and instead of starting back down in a timely manner, as instructed, novice climbers lingered to celebrate their accomplishment. Because of these things a lot of people did not make a safe or timely descent and died, including two mega experienced commercial leaders, who in my opinion, used poor judgement and essentially abandoned responsibility to the majority of their paying customers. Your wondering about limits on people entering a particular slot canyon caused me to remember the bottle neck on Everest. And the possibility of 40 people being stuck in that tiny space waiting for a turn to rapel doesn't bear thinking of. How awful, 7 members in one party were too many and caused a significant delay. 😪😮‍💨

[@jessekelly8132]

There is a maximum group number allowed on the permit, probably not more than 8 or 10.

[@The_Brew_Dog]

If you’ve never seen the red rocks in goblin valley, Zion, lake Powell, Moab, escalate staircase you really must at some point in your life. There are many safe locations to hike, if you like boating lake Powell is a must. This story is tragic, but I would dare say even these people would tell you it’s a magical place.

[@lorrenaelliott161]

Subbed. Excellent research, NO AI 👏 instant sub. What did you use to edit this all together ? Final Cut Pro ?

[@matthewm7867]

Who starts hiking so late that’s crazy - I always hike first light

[@TTraveller3]

Great comment. Very unusual to hike late.

[@roland7584]

Didn't the other group go in after them? They made it out.

[@bbyjimm]

@@roland7584 They passed them so they were ahead of the group that perished

[@roland7584]

@@bbyjimm I'm saying the other group started later, so going late had nothing to do with this.

[@bbyjimm]

@@roland7584 The other group barely made it out also so it did matter going late

[@ReluctantCriticDude]

Zion national park is very very crowded. Not an isolated wilderness experience but it’s a beautiful place to visit. Sad story. Thanks for sharing it.

[@ALA9E]

Um why didn’t the 3 ahead raise the alarm, or did I miss something?

[@meimoran5223]

Raise the alarm how? The 3 ahead were way ahead in the canyon… they wouldn’t have been able to shout to the other group. Also, yes you missed something. It was mentioned in the video, that just as they went down the 3rd rappel, it started raining and it suddenly became a huge downpour. It was also mentioned that it was the fastest switch that they’ve ever experienced. Even if they “tried” to scream to the 2nd group 😂which was way farther the canyon, they wouldn’t be heard through a downpour. I’m so confused what you expect from the 3…

[@ALA9E]

@@meimoran5223 thanks for setting me straight, hope you have a good one

[@cutsbykev6444]

@@meimoran5223how about notifying the authorities that there are potentially 7 bodies they will need to recover? And maybe get a helicopter out there on the small chance there are any survivors…. Like.. what are you talking about? 😂

[@cutsbykev6444]

@@ALA9Eno need to set you straight. Not notifying the authorities at least is a very strange play

[@Chris-ft2yx]

You give deranged vibes using that emoji fr

[@villagelightsmith4375]

"... you've got to know when to walk away, ... know when to RUN!."

[@Kristy_not_Kristine]

What a beautiful country.

[@danettejachalke5818]

I just subscribed. Thank you for telling their story

[@metallifreak100]

I love Zion, going there in November. I love hiking, scrambling, and have even mountain climbed once. Canyoneering is something I’m not really interested in because of how dangerous it can be. The flash floods make it a no-go for me.

[@desi579]

Wow this incident happened yrs ago. I was part of the VHC. I knew the Leader Bob personally and a few of the others. Breaks my heart again to run into this video in the new yr. RIP 🙏

[@kamakaziozzie3038]

Was there a reason they left so late? 1:30pm seems late to start any type of adventure. However, I don’t climb rock so that could be normal time.

[@KrispyKrunchee]

No I totally agree.. I’m not a climber either but entering the canyon entrance at 15:50 was a wild gamble in my opinion.

[@bestcee]

Keyhole Canyon is usually 1-2 hours from start to finish, so 1:30pm isn't that late to start. 4:30pm is a bit late, but sunset isn't until about 7:30pm, so still enough time if they were focused.

[@LS-kl6bj]

Correct. There seems to be a lack of situational unawareness at play here. During the summer, Zion National Park has a "monsoon" season, in which it frequently rains in the afternoon. I have canyoneered around Zion, but not in Zion. I thought that experienced canyoneers were careful to 1) start canyoneering in the morning during this time; and 2) make sure they completed the canyon before the afternoon rains moved in. Or just avoid canyoneering altogether during this season; come earlier or later in the summer.

[@TerrorTwin]

The Canyon usually doesn't take that long to complete, so it's not unusual to start at that time!

[@herstoryanimated]

As others have said it is normally considered to be about a 90 minute journey so they should have had plenty of time. The other reason it was late was because they did a training session for canyoneering in the morning as it was the first time most of them were going. This is considered a beginners route. There is a really well written article, on this case, online with excellent detail for those who are interested - it's the one in Outside Magazine, called Special Report: The Keyhole Seven

[@sheilagravely5621]

Beautiful scenery!❤❤❤❤❤ RIP to all that perished. 🙏

[@annhussey5442]

Incredible story told exceptionally well!❤

[@SpicyTacoBell]

As a longtime resident of Mesquite I was a bit surprised to hear my little town get mentioned.

[@galaxyrose15]

This video was great, keep it up!

[@Dane3804]

Sgt. Steve Arthur was a friend of mine , I remember watching the news when it was reported that he and his wife were swept away in the flash flood and a search was underway it was heartbreaking. USAR found his body first and his wife several days later. RIP To those who perished that day.

[@cathy5070]

How tragic. May they all RIP.

[@loditx7706]

@cathy5070 I never understand the RIP thing. Unless you believe in ghosts (which might be possible) they have no choice, do they?

[@micoPogi-pg3kn]

People think this is fun? Just go out and walk in a park or something

[@wanya_telborn]

Right ❤

[@markmcgoveran6811]

I've looked a lot of things like this and different places and I did not ask for a permit or any training or anything I start in the bottom and I go in from that end and then I come out the same way. This is an extremely stupid state we're talking in Utah and they aren't smart enough to figure out how high the water gets in the canyon and put in some ladders. If they have a ladder named after every dead guy they have one every couple hundred feet and you could just climb up and sit on something bolted to the wall.

[@Rickswars]

Not everyone is a snowflake.

[@sasskvetch8617]

Seems pretty safe except in the rainy season. Thank the gods our ancestors included some non-risk-averse folks or there would never have been seafarers or explorers and we'd all still be hunched in smelly caves 😂

[@Upioornica]

Every time I see photos of Zion National Park, it's absolutely striking. As a European, I'd love to visit it one day. That being said, it's heartbreaking that such a sunny, relaxed day turned so horrendous.

[@gabyfields3235]

I get short of breath watching people climb down these narrow canyons! It is extremely claustrophobic! I would NOT do it. Many of these fatal accidents, unfortunately, are self-inflicted. If you know the potential risk (however remote it may be), and still want to do your adventure, then it is on you. RIP to the wonderful people who perished, they did not deserve to die. But they were aware of the risk, and they lost unfortunately.

The guy saying "we have to get down" during a flood is crazy. The further you go down the hill, the more water you'll encounter. Safest spot is near the top before the water has space to collect and form streams that will wash you away.

[@jessesantiago8473]

R.I.P to the souls lost that day😢

[@JulieWilliams-vr7dh]

Your voice is amazing ...What a tragic story.Prayers to every1 involved.

[@loditx7706]

@@JulieWilliams-vr7dh Do you mean prayers "for"? I thought one only prayed "to" one's gods.

[@KathleenMcNe]

I'm an avid, longtime hiker and live in a mountainous region where the weather can change very dramatically very quickly. I would never hike in those canyons.

[@jessekelly8132]

You’re missing out.

[@KathleenMcNe]

@jessekelly8132 I'm alive to hike better trails to my heart's content.

[@lindasd7591]

Excellent presentation and narration!

[@justiceLaw0000]

This is a terrible and heartbreaking story. I have to consider my claustrophobia a blessing.

[@elaineisabelle427]

Wow, so tragic, thank you so much, RIP to the ones who lost their lives that day.

[@susanadeoliveira976]

I love to be boring , safe and sound 😂

[@sinickasdavis2159]

Same

[@nakiadavis9638]

Yes

[@LydiAtheistLady]

Excellent video! Thank you.

[@jllee1776]

Yeah, bad call. Sometimes you have to say "No"

[@pauldeamer9581]

I remember arriving on the Colorado river after a long car ride to white water raft. On a summers day we woke up to new snow on the mountain tops. Then the most experienced rafter vote no go. My brother, quite experienced himself, said that was good enough for us too. Disappointed, but a really good decision. I latter learned French tourists had to be helicoptered out of canyon and they were on a big Jrig and we were going on just rubber rafts.

[@Ataraxia_Atom]

I live in Nevada and flash floods out here in the high desert are no joke, literally in minutes entire roads will wash out its definitely very dangerous.

[@Rainbow-m3w]

It's dumb to start in afternoon. Afternoon is when monsoons ALWAYS come. It's dumb to not know you can't see over the cannonballs. This is typical weather. Unpredictable in afternoon.

[@danishpastries3941]

I work in Zion Park as a bus driver and I can tell you that clouds can form quickly! We might have 50% chance of rain in the morning, and then later on, it gets changed to a higher chance. The problem is that there is no way to inform hikers of the changes once they leave the bus. There is no alarm system in place that can inform people when the narrows close. Once you are in there, you are on your own! Now immagine going on a hike like this?? If weather can change so fast and there is no way for the park to alert you when changes happen, you are on your own! I personally would not go on a hike like this or even the narrows if there is a chance of rain. I remember that day when this happened. I did not hear of this tragedy until after, since the tragedy of the sister wives and their kids was happening the same day. Many people from other cities came to help look for the missing people. One boy was never found! I have seen the power of the water, and it is scary! Please understand the power of nature and don't take any unnecessary risks.

[@fullerhorsediary]

Wait, the group of three leave a note on the vehicle knowing the large group wouldnt make it out? and didnt they notify anyone?

[@a.w.thompson4001]

The other group let rangers know three different times that a group of 7 was caught in the flood, but the rangers were busy with many accidents caused by the storm, plus evacuating 10,000 people from the park. Also, there was nothing anyone could do to help while Keyhole Canyon was flooded and unsafe.

[@fullerhorsediary]

@@a.w.thompson4001 okay that was all left out of the video, thanks for the info

[@antoinettetemple6030]

That should have been part of the story. Not sure why a search didn't happen as soon as possible though.

[@jezd71]

Loved your channel for years, missed my favourite ahhh ahhh intro but 🤣🍺🍺🍺

[@MerrrryBeth]

When he “expressed some concern about the weather“ to his wife, that should’ve been the end of it right there PERIOD! Why risk your lives for a stupid hike? In my opinion they have nobody to blame but themselves.😮

[@GregHaibon-h3t]

I like the narrator's voice and delivery.

[@AngelWest58]

Another great video

[@TerrorTwin]

Thank you!

[@lorenapena9596]

I would never do this , especially in tiny spaces … nope !! Thank you 🙏🏽