The DEADLIEST New Republic Ships in Thrawn's Revenge? | Empire at War Expanded

[@EcksToo]

So did you guess the 6 ships correctly? More importantly, did you get them all in the correct order? Interested to hear how well you did! Also we dived into the New Republic's STRONGEST Battlecrusier is more detail here: 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2W6pKSvhrebY9U

[@shinystarmiestudios4179]

I'm wondering how long before the Yuuzhan Vong are added.

[@In.the.mood.2]

Called it that the top two would be the mediator and the viscount at number 1

[@delta2372]

I honestly don't think the nebula should be on this list, I've noticed every update they nerfed it into the ground, it went from having heavy ion canons, two missle launchers and strong shields and armor to having two weak ion canons, one missle launchers and is more frail than a narasists ego. It has heavy weapons but it doesn't kill ships as fast as it used to in previous versions, if anything with how the current build is there is no reason to build them over the MC90, there isn't any difference in stats either between the nebula and republic star destroyer which makes no sense.

[@mateocabaguio4444]

Well I like the Vi Count class. Its better than an SSD it has lots of hard points and increased hull. The Vi Count Dreadnought looks like it can take on the UNSC Infinity

[@Leonidas-nu3jp]

I dont like how most of the major capital ship designs seem to be from Mon Cal. I get the Alliance using them but the New Republic had access to Kuat, Fondor and Corellia. Ship yards that were far more developed. They should have quickly developed more Old Republic designs with at most Mon Cal influences like the Nebula class.

[@thestarwarsmusiccomposer3491]

Becus mon cala ships answers to republic logic

[@wesjanson6979]

the shipyards of those planets were mostly used to creating designs for Imperial ships, and you can headcanon their influence in the new model fleet designs with the Republic, Nebula, and Mon Mothma Star Destroyers For the purposes of the mod in both giving faction identity and easily recognizable ship type, there are the Mon Cal focuses in capital ship classes, but in lore you have a lot of different kinds of ships. The Bothan Assault Cruiser in the mod is considered a high tier frigate, in the lore it was basically the strongest glass cannon the New Republic had access to and it kicked the crap out of anything it went up against, from Imperials to the Vong.

[@Stirling96]

No.

[@bionic-tale4313]

I don't mind it too much. Since Mon Cal ships have the one of the best shields in the Galaxy as well as being more tanky as well as having decent firepower.

[@denen404]

For the most part the mon cala designs are far superior to the things that Kuat was putting out at the same time...specifically more advanced weaponry and a completely different style of shield setup that worked better aswell...

[@wolfbounddrawolf]

I really think the Nebula SD needs a buff in legends that thing was able to go head to with multiple capitol ships and come out victorious. It was also able to last somewhat of a good length of time against a SSD though it was destroyed. The fact that this thing cant go head to head ISD 1 and win in game makes me question it a little ( I love this MOD don't get me wrong ) but this baby is so lacking in many area's is all im saying. Really wished that it was given the love it deserves. Also wished they made a SSD model of this baby. Like a new generation of SSD being modeled after the Nebula. That's why I love the resurgent so much. Its the only good thing that came out of the Cough new trilogy Cough.

[@Rahul-m6g6s]

The Nebula is incredibly powerful in Thrawn's Revenge. It's a long-range high-damage vessel, not a short-range tank, so if you park it right in front of an ISD of course it's going to lose. You want to hide it behind some nice defensive Mon Cal ships and let it pick off enemy ships from a distance.

[@wolfbounddrawolf]

@@falkfink that is not was listed in legands when it came out and mentioned. That was only stated maybe 6 years ago it 8. When it first was mentioned and announced in legands it was literally stated to be superior to a ISD in every situation and with new technology such as better shields and fire power that when it went up against ISD's the nebulas came out on top in almost every situation. They only decided to give it a role after things were getting out of hand (muddy) and couldn't connect stories and proper continuation. It LITERALLY lasted in a up front battle with a SSD for at LEAST 10 minutes giving the new republic enough time to get in formation and allowing their own SSD to get into firing range with a broad side before being destroyed and this was a regular nebula not costum. So yes they nerfed the crap out it even though it was mentioned to be superior to an ISD.

[@wolfbounddrawolf]

@@Rahul-m6g6s @Falk Fink that is not was listed in legands when it came out and mentioned. That was only stated maybe 6 years ago it 8. When it first was mentioned and announced in legands it was literally stated to be superior to a ISD in every situation and with new technology such as better shields and fire power that when it went up against ISD's the nebulas came out on top in almost every situation. They only decided to give it a role after things were getting out of hand (muddy) and couldn't connect stories and proper continuation. It LITERALLY lasted in a up front battle with a SSD for at LEAST 10 minutes giving the new republic enough time to get in formation and allowing their own SSD to get into firing range with a broad side before being destroyed and this was a regular nebula not costum. So yes they nerfed the crap out it even though it was mentioned to be superior to an ISD.

[@90skidcultist]

@@wolfbounddrawolf You are 100% correct. I don`t know why these people are kidding themselves. I would argue that the Endurance, IS2, Victory 2, Interdictor Star Destroyer(kind of), and the Liberty, are also very weak as well. The Endurance should be able to hold its own against anything weaker than a IS1, or on par with it. The Nebula is a COUNTER star destroyer. With decent point defense and very powerful weapons and shielding. All they have to do is make the cost super high, and give it a long time to build. New Class ships are meant to be very-very rare, and expensive anyways. Should be unlikely for you to have whole fleets of the best of the New Class Ships, unless you take your time to build them. New class ships are meant to go head to head with the best of the Empire`s fleet. Or guard the Core Worlds. Yet, Mc90s(a New class ship) does the job of the Nebula. Even due Mc90s are meant to be on par with IS2s, not better. A lot of ships in the mod overperform, while classic ships suffer. ISD1, ISD2s, and even Victories, should always be good. No matter what Era you are in. They just have a few hard counter.

[@harveywilde6781]

I remember when the Nebula was so OP. It can out gun two ISD2 and even competes with the Allegiance battlecruiser.

[@kR-qj7rw]

I see charlie forgot about the republic SD Tankier than the nebula and still very capable of damaging Isds

[@immobilizer4186]

My guess: Viscount Mc80 Nebula RSD Mediator Blue diver/ Mon Calamari heavy carrier Ok 4/6 I forgot about the Mc90 and prototype lol

[@sethcourtemanche5738]

I'm not surprised the viscount is number 1 I mean it's 17km long and has the exact same firepower as an executor

[@AckzaTV]

Calamari heavy is so beautiful with its thruster pattern wow

[@steelrexer1062]

I played around with the games files a bit and gave the imperials a nebula class since I always loved it and always wanted to see next generation imperial designs that draw from the nebula. I tried to give it interdiction capabilities as well, but couldn’t figure out how. Other things I gave the empire were zsinj’s Raptor troopers and all of the super Star destroyers except the viscount. I also tried to give them a customized destroyer droid, commando droids, and a giant dark trooper 3 unit, but was having a hard time porting the stuff over from various mods and getting it to work.

[@simonnance]

In your MC90 Vs ISD clip, the ISD is poorly orientated and is only using around half its firepower. Doesn't mean an MC90 can't win, but it's certainly not a fair comparison.

[@idiotsinanutshell3554]

Although true it’s displaying how it should be used. It’s a very powerful ship that can be used at a distance.

[@AckzaTV]

Wow I like how we see visually an illustration of the vicount taking out two imperial star destroyers at once. Good way to show its power

[@SeriousGranade]

3 of them, actually, but yeah

[@joshuacollins5523]

This is literally a pop cap list but - viscount, mediator, blue diver, viscount prototype and mc80 home one

[@galenmarek4550]

1.) Viscount Star Defender 2.) Mediator Battlecruiser 3.) Viscount Battlecruiser (Prototype) 4.) Mon Calamari Heavy Carrier 5.) RSD 6.) MC90 Star Cruiser Ah dang. Forgot the Home One. 5/6 for correct position and ships

[@connori1324]

You should do this with the empire and other factions as well, great video

[@denen404]

Always felt star wars ships didn't list all of their hard points such as point defense autoturrets and the such but at the same time I've always felt most star wars ships were underarmed for their sizes.

[@primachpepe8597]

most of that is game engine limitations. The game really starts to chug in big battles. If we get an EAW2 then we may see hopefully a better engine for this to be built around

[@DoeShardik]

The viscount is brilliant! I still enjoy chopping it in half with a glorious fleet of ISDs

[@gigacow]

YES the Thrawn's Revenge mod won from last nights stream! Thanks for the upload Charlie!!

[@EcksToo]

Will be playing with fans on Thrawn's Revenge on the 5th July! - Charlie

[@gigacow]

@@EcksToo LESS GOO

[@macwelch8599]

Where’s the Endurance Class Fleet Carrier?

[@EcksToo]

We decided to focus on the Nebula Star Destroyer instead of the Endurance, since they're in a similar line of ships. - Charlie

[@macwelch8599]

@@EcksToo ok

[@Solar-solice]

Did you look into the Republic Star destroyer. It does not appear in sandbox and only in the GC map. Technically as it has a higher pop cap it should be stronger than the MC80b. Other, than that i agree with the list from 6-1.

[@thestarwarsmusiccomposer3491]

15:09 i think the dauntless was found in ep 6 also

[@lisaruhm6681]

I have a question, because of how it was said, does replenish over means all squadrons, so for example 3 squadrons*20 replenishes=60squadrons overall, or does it mean 3squadrons+20squadrons in reserve=23squadrons total?

[@siac888]

Its the Second one. 3/20 means, they Spawn 3 Squadrons now, and 20 Squadrons more in the Hangar.

[@thestarwarsmusiccomposer3491]

1:50 i spam MC90s taking down the ISDs in a few seconds

[@bradhedgehog12]

Eck. I wouldn’t be so sure about the Viscount handling the Eclipse man. I did a battle using them it took 3 super laser hits to destroy a Viscount. Though took long for a recharge the Eclipse was able to hold out long enough to destroy it

[@EcksToo]

You missed this 13:24 - Charlie

[@bradhedgehog12]

@@EcksToo Well maybe but still. Ok ok. If you get a chance try having the Eclipse vs the Viscount on Thrawns Revenge. I did.

[@bradhedgehog12]

@@EcksToo oh yeah yeah I heard it. Really.

[@RJALEXANDER777]

Yeah bring the Viscount in behind an Eclipse and it'll make mincemeat of it.

[@bradhedgehog12]

@@RJALEXANDER777 Not unless it turns around. And remember in the game the super laser can hit in any direction with the needs to maneuver the ship. I know this cause I did it

[@AckzaTV]

Those Big boy mon calamari ships that can take out a star destroyer are so refreshing to see as part of the rebel alliance. It's our mighty flag ship that we the good guys get to have finally

[@AckzaTV]

The round organic shape of mon calamari ships just seem more natural and good than the sharp "sith like" angles of the dark imperial star destroyers made of menacing triangular shapes...just like the b2 bomber in real life etc

[@arya8165]

What era can you build the Mon Calamari Heavy Carrier ? I cant seem to find it in any era.

[@thatonelightbulb474]

2:50 You are ABSOLUTELY wrong about this cruiser. If you actually thought how smart the rebels are, they will NOT send just one small ship to destroy multiple capital ships. To be honest, a MC80 cannot operate without the cruiser, as multiple star destroyers will destroy 2 MC80s, so I guess it could operate in an actual fleet, not being able to operate alone, so I think it deserves a bit more respect.

[@koltonkosik5115]

Mediator, home one, viscount, mc90, new republic star destroyer, and endurance

[@AckzaTV]

Wow the back of a mom calamari cruise with the modular placement of thrusters looks like an ai art generator made it

[@mertroll1]

Why isn't it possible to use the viscount in skirmish mode ?? I dont understand

[@miqvPL]

MC30 is the most annoying ship in regular Empire at War, AI can use it to extreme effects, outspeeding every standard bomber fighter and having absolutely unreasonable amounts of shields. To beat it without using massive fleet advantage usually requries using interdictor cruisers to screw their proton torpedoes, buildable platforms that protect areas from missiles or advanced bombers (b-wings and tie defenders). Zann Consortium can only use crusader cruisers missile point defense to protect ships from the proton torpedo barrage and hope that mass driver cannons on their frigates can destroy the proton torpedo launchers or engines so skipreys can keep up with it's speed to finish it off. I'm not sure a single star destroyer(without it's fighters and bombers) can win with a MC30, it probably can but at a very high cost. Bonus points that AI rebel fleets during galactic conquest usually build a ton of them as soon as they can. They never build MC80s when they can get 2 MC 30s for the same price.

[@falkfink]

That's what I like about Thrawn's revenge. Bombers and stuff like the MC30 aren't completely busted cause they can't just ignore shields.

[@miqvPL]

@@falkfink yeah I need to try Thrawn's revenge one day, but my work laptop can't handle it very well

[@aaronwagner4017]

Maybe position the issue directly at the he test ships next gone for more accurate engagements

[@My2CentsYall]

The nebula star destroyer is upsetting. It is on par with a imperial star destroyer 1. As for the mc 90 that is an advanced class ship it has problems against other advanced ships like the praetor or allegiance class SD those shop one on one out class it. The NEB is not even in the counting. The fighter compliment is not good either on the mc 90 and worse on the nebula: I am not impressed.

[@andreykuzmin4317]

As a staunch Empire's fan, I'll be first to admit, that almost all of Rebellion/NR ships are deadly. They either work better as force multiplyer, or they puck ugly amount of hurt. Imperial Remnant started to build Assault Frigates for a reason.

[@GrandKamaha]

What about the defender class star destroyers

[@beckettmcmanigal2246]

Why are these videos so addicting

[@501stlegionvadersfist3]

Welcome back to the next episode of Eck only plays skirmish

[@CEOofAutism]

Jesus anything to avoid play eaw land mode

[@Robfenix]

It would be nice to place the required tech level / era next to these ships so I can also compare in my mind which is the best choice for the era in which it is available in the game.

[@nonyabisness6306]

tbh nothing beats ISD's. Just enough fighters to hold off the enemy and super-heavy firepower.

[@the_only_lonely]

*Eckstoo saying that 3 squadrons isn't a lot... - Alegiance class

[@thebatt6183]

Never heard of the dauntless and I love the nebula

[@phelmet9344]

Easily most powerful ship: The GR-75 medium transport.

[@DamoMan9555]

I'm a bit confused, isn't the mc80 home one supposed to be around 1,200 meters long? In the video the mc80 is absolutely HUGE. If I'm in the dark about something could someone please let me know.

[@nicholaswong6737]

The 1200 is mismeasured. The actual length of the Mc80 Home One is around 2500-3000 metres long. That’s why it’s massive in the mod as this follows Legends.

[@Rexfearless]

I'm not sure if these were out yet but what about the bull work 3 or endurance star destroyer or Republic star destroyer

[@AckzaTV]

How many people have been writing star wars content over the years including the fan fiction or whatever you call the extended universe and then legend etc? When you add it all up...how many hours of writing actually went into describing the millions of star wars planets over the last 50 years of star wars literature?

[@axis19752]

Yep. That'll all work.

[@georgepanayotov5288]

We need updated version with the 3.5 version ships

[@Person_Alive]

Hhmmm yes 30 or more Years ships vs yesterday made ship

[@reallybigmistake]

in this mod what is the length of the Blue Diver carrier? also, I thought the home one was 1200 meters and smaller than an ISD but in this mod they made the home one longer?

[@conglomo1326]

Once again, ISD 2 has been gimped to make other ships look more powerful. An MC 90 should be around equal with an ISD 2, not absolutely dominating it.

[@90skidcultist]

Yep! ISD 2s, should always be a good ship. Pretty sure it should have more firepower than a Tector, too. Or on par. Few ships in legends can handle ISD 2s, but that`s uncommon. I prefer playing the Empire in AOTR, than Thrawn`s Revenge. You feel so much more powerful as the Empire in AOTR. Even though the Dark Empire Era is a lot of fun in Thrawn`s Revenge. The Nebula and Endurance are also lacking. Endurance is just too squishy. Nebula needs power to shields, fire all weapons, better point defense, and much stronger shielding. Just increase the cost and build time. These ship are meant to be very rare, anyway.

[@lenkagamine4145]

@@90skidcultist Tector is literally an ISD geared fully towards firepoewr alone and nothing else, what possible reason would it have for being weaker? The galactic civil war era mon cala ships were competitive (though a bit weaker) compared to ISD's, so they absolutely should be stronger than an ISD when they developed a new, top-of-the-line warship decades later than the ISD. Expecting the ISD to be equal with an MC90 is like expecting a pre-dreadnought to be on par with japanese battleship nagato. Nebula's and Endurance's are definitely too weak though.

[@stuartmathieson8251]

YOUR VIDEOS ARE GREAT KEEP IT UP

[@vbvol]

Stream Tonight

[@EcksToo]

No, stream will be on Thursday when we play Sea of Thieves update! - Charlie

[@gigacow]

@@EcksToo LESS GOO

[@vbvol]

@@EcksToo Thank you Charlie

[@immobilizer4186]

ooh, that’s great!

[@tobinloftus2419]

​@@EcksTooDang it, I missed the stream.

[@011i3TK]

Viscount enters the chat

[@bostonrailfan2427]

…not known for having super powerful ships? buddy, Mon Calamari ships were on par with star destroyers! the way they were used was what separates them, but just because the ships were escorts more than attackers doesn’t make them any less powerful

[@zoltantakacs8401]

Mc-85 ... Nebula Mc80 Mediator. Idk...the rest

[@williamjohansson8105]

Why are the MC80 Home One larger than an ISD 2? An ISD 2 are 1600 meters and the MC80 Home One is 1300 meters

[@mikd157]

I’d like to ask where you got the numbers for the home one because it is clearly quite a bit more massive than an isd2 in rotj

[@williamjohansson8105]

@@mikd157 I got the numbers from a book about vehicles in Star Wars from 2018

[@90skidcultist]

@@williamjohansson8105 This is a "Legends" mod, sir.

[@williamjohansson8105]

@@90skidcultist Ok but it's weird that the same ship is larger in legends should't it be the same size in both legends and canon?

[@90skidcultist]

@@williamjohansson8105 The Home One has two known sizes to some. Similar to the Eclipse SSD. I do agree that the common size is 1300 meters, though. So, I think you`re actually right. In Legends, and I think cannon as well, early Mon Calamari ships varies from ship to ship and size to size. Their almost, or always, different from each other of the same class. In Legends, they standardized the size of newer Mon Calamari ships, and designed them for war from the ground up. The Mon Remonda being the first one of her kind. The others were originally Luxury ships, rush into military services. Technically, an ISD2 should still beat them, not the upscale version. The Home One is a heavy carrier first. starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Home_One/Legends "The game Star Wars: Empire at War scales Home One at approximately 3,200 meters. The game shows the Venator, Victory, Imperial, and Liberty classes in nearly perfect relative scale against each other. "Character" vessels are sometimes larger than their counterparts, which suggests that Home One may not be to scale, though the scaling is consistent with its size in Return of the Jedi" kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6S8in95qMSHhKs kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3mwnXSvg7x_pdE

[@gigofogamus]

What game is this?

[@AckzaTV]

Did u license the eckhart branding lol and just start making ur own content within his u brella?

[@VioletSilence]

I can name only very obvious Viscount, don't really know much about New Republic navy...

[@marcomairena316]

WUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOO esta nave es un new símbolo de la rebelión

[@dennisw8166]

Extremely!!

[@marcosstar40]

viscount

[@LetMeFLY649]

I'm surprised the starhawk wasn't on the list

[@kasin4225]

Mediator