Why This Capital Ship is CRUCIAL to the New Republic's Naval Strategy

[@secla_SC]

This is the first ship in Star Wars that has me drooling over how beautifully designed it is since I saw the Venator Class Star Destroyer for the first time.

[@AFriend748]

The Venator was the goat ong

[@persuisixh4804]

I get the feeling it’s a new mc30

[@jackmodler1419]

its perfect down to the last minute details, but yeah its a nice MC 30 frigate

[@persephone9084]

i´m still in love with the victory class and i think its more beautiful than the venator

[@MrAranton]

Someone using a jedi code does not mean they are a jedi or even force sensitive. My guess is: the captain assumed someone without any ability to use the force stumbled over that old code and tried to use it in order to swindle the republic. Which (considering how rare trained force users are in that period) probably would have been correct at least 9 out of 10 times. The security detail would have been sufficient to detain any imposters pretending to be jedi.

[@Dreamfox-df6bg]

Considering he was carrying an important prisoner, this security detail wasn't enough. That ship could have carried an elite team or be full of regular soldiers. It could fire any weapons, which might be hidden, it has inside his ship or, as mentioned in the video, it could even be a bomb. This could have been anything, from a prank, to someone wanting to free his prisoner to someone who wants her dead. He should have 1. Ignored them and reported this encounter to fleet command or 2. deploy a fighter screen and send a security detail over to check it out while keeping his distance.

[@AlechiaTheWitch]

​@@Dreamfox-df6bgyeah.. and a high value one as well. An imperial warlord

[@mrspeigel3593]

Hes a bit of a pompous a$$ about it but he's handling it in the most logical way it's almost like hes seen this kind of bs before

[@AlechiaTheWitch]

@@mrspeigel3593 complacency.

[@jeffreycarman2185]

Unless they were Imperial-sympathizing suicide bombers, or a shuttle sent by a pirate group with a huge ion bomb to make the ship inoperable, or any of a thousand scenarios which would make it absolutely unacceptable for a random civilian ship with ancient access codes to be allowed to dock within a warship. It’s hard to imagine a scenario where it would be OK to do what this captain did.

[@shanenolan5625]

The Mon cala may be in league with the dolphins

[@GenerationTech]

interesting tell me more

[@collector1951]

@@GenerationTechwould you like to know mo- oh wait wrong franchise

[@Commander_Raveth]

2000 leagues under the sea?

[@ofthecaribbean]

Suspicion alone is grounds for immediate exterminatus!

[@Planag7]

I don't know if you've ever played the old game echo the dolphin but let me tell you squids and dolphins have a history going back thousands of years... Eventually they'd evolve back in the crabs and crustacean somehow which makes no sense but best not to think about that c; In all seriousness that game gets very interesting is not just a little dolphin game...

[@LiliaArmoury]

the ship feels like the kind of ship you drop into a sector to deter pirates by sending out squadrons of fighters on patrol who appear above a world with little warning from a mobile base

[@jeffengel2607]

Yes. It also optimizes the continued use of all the fighters the Rebellion had. The total package here is one smallish new build vessel and a slew of probably existing fighters, with the bulk of the personnel carrying on jobs like they had under the Rebellion (or in some cases, the Empire).

[@Archris17]

I like that as a concept, but would it be too much to ask for just a LITTLE direct firepower? I get that it's never meant to slug it out with Victory and Imperial SDs, or even Arquitens, but at least enough to take on a Marauder or Vigil-class without having to scramble fighters should be the bare minimum!

[@diogeneslamp8004]

8:10 Did you just say “For the porpoise of this war…” just after the underwater scene? I salute you.

[@styledliving]

totally did

[@daniels7907]

One thing that occurs to me about New Republic demilitarization is that this would be *very* bad for major shipyard systems (Corellia, Kuat, etc.) and the Senate might have had to agree to acquiring new ships or else face a collapse of their shipbuilding industry. But, not wanting to get sucked into the expense black hole of the ISDs and MC-80's, they came up with a smaller design that would have the additional advantage of visually distinguishing the NR fleet from the Imperial fleet. Smaller, friendlier, warships.

[@granatmof]

Honestly when you consider the "Light freight" class of starship which are readily weaponizeable, it would really make sense for large Republic vessels to be built around a modular chassis. Strip away the armor and guns and rearrange some bulk heads na interiors space and they can be transporter cargo ships works. It may not be the most robust of war fighters, but for peacekeeping forces, you want cheap efficient systems for exerting pressure, nit overt miliary action. The more a particular frame is produced, the cheaper it is to build and maintain.

[@blackc1479]

Lol "smaller friendlier warships". I can actually hear them pitching it that way. Agreed about the Shipyards, the NR would have had to always plan to keep them grooving along for the noted and many other reasons. Switching to smaller, lighter (and friendlier) ships would be a win for everyone. The yards get many more fast, simple builds, improving ease of construction, dock availability, plus a smaller but much steadier income stream. (Smaller paycheck everyday, vs one big one a year) The NR gets all the good stuff noted here and in the vid.

[@blackc1479]

​@granatmof I get where you're coming from on this, but even trying to be "demilitirized" they would have to keep a first tier response available. I'm kinda thinking of the whole yhevetha story arc. The folks who are going to get thrown into the blender are going to demand some kind of professional option. But the politicians are going to try to keep it as small as possible to try to stay on message. So a big fleet of small ships is a good compromise. Though the modular idea would be great to pitch to systems etc. They could have a standing fleet of ships that could swing between coast guard, q ship, and in downtime and emergency be turned into liberty/relief ships. Plus the yards would no doubt be happy to sell a "mini-refit" station to help switch modes. Always gotta upsell lol

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

"Smaller ,Friendlier ships " Exactly what The Chimera would need for snacks after a long break before going after Home one and nebulas and starhawks ,you know the actual breakfast , lunch and Dinner

[@daniels7907]

@@sumukhvmrsat6347 - The Chimera is just an Impstar-Deuce, not some kind of amazing and special ship. Thrawn's strategic acumen is what made it formidable, not the ship itself. Even he couldn't prevent it from being trashed and carried away by Purrgils!

[@princeofpokemon2934]

This vessel reminds me of the MC30c frigate. The design looks heavily similar in appearance.

[@GenerationTech]

Good eye, the joe johnston concept art the new republic cruiser is based off of would eventually become the mc30c

[@princeofpokemon2934]

@@GenerationTech it would have been nice if they brought it into the films. Every Imperial that commanded a star destroyer feared them because those ship had a heavy amount of weapons for their size. But they were lightly armored and could easily be destroyed by a single bombing run.

[@jeffengel2607]

I figured it was Mon Calamari engineered, just modified internally to suit mostly human and near-human crews. And/or the New Republic likes curves in their ships to distinguish them from Imperial gear.

[@Mercoras]

mc30c type, if it had a love child with some of the CIS capitals involved... the design isnt just good... but it has that level of overkill there. im not seeing too much on it. but this makes everything prior look bad.... even the starhawk may not be capable of keeping up. this thing is odd, but damn good, and ill go with scary. starship vs with this, and alot... we need exacts... good video on this!!! this is a lean boxer... isd 2 wouldnt stand against it, if manned to full... it looks to quick. It may have the overlapping shields, but it still seems too small... but swol??? hrmph. some of that may just be extra plating... but this is rather brutal by design. dont get me wrong... i do not think she is wasting any space.... sorry to rant, but its good and terrifying all at once.

[@princeofpokemon2934]

@@jeffengel2607 early Mon Calamari capital ships that were used by the rebels could only be used by the Mon Calamari people. After the battle of Endor and when the Rebellion started to construct dedicated warships, they created those ships to be piloted by just about any species in the galaxy, like humans. Models like the MC80B and the MC90 star cruisers are two such warships.

[@luukheijstek]

All these ship and fleet shots that they show in this series gives me hope of seeing a Nebula class star destroyer one day

[@mrzirak792]

Worst thing is they might copy the appearance but then it would be just as useful as disney's regular ISDs and it would be rammed by some weird shaped corvette or something💀

[@DMSProduktions]

Nebulon!

[@Eagledelta3]

The Nebula-class was cool, but I personally love the design of the Nadiri Starhawk-class Battleship. Something that's not just another Star Destroyer analog

[@Gaming_Suchti123]

@@DMSProduktionsNo, the nebulon is a seperate ship. The Nebula is a New republic Star destroyer (lenghtwise) from legends.

[@Kishanth.J]

@@DMSProduktionsnope Nebula class, from legends.

[@darwinskeeper421]

I confess the New Republic's behavior in this show and in the last season of The Mandolorian really burned my biscuits. Partly because it's such a contrast to what the Rebellion was, and partly because I have this feeling like we're barreling towards the Sequel Trilogy and that is kind of hard to take.

[@redenginner]

Yeah this kind of rot when theres still Imperial Warlords and heavily armed pirates running around kinda doesn’t sit well.

[@detroitcoffeeartdetroit6502]

No matter the comments that justify it as being plausible, it wasn't until it had to be because of the premise set up in The Force Awakens. Because it really doesn't make sense in where it was left off

[@silentdrew7636]

​@@detroitcoffeeartdetroit6502 we've spent the decades since the Original Trilogy doing the same thing. That goes double for Europe.

[@todddonaldson7974]

On tie fighters, my theory was that the Empire did not trust its pilots. If they had warp capable ships, then they could steal the ships. If you deploy the tie fighters, you know they will defend the Star Destroyer with their life, as it is there only trip home. Also, being a big corporation, the Empire went for quantity over quality.

[@Inactive_Account29283]

Still didnt work considering that there are still more tie fighter pilot desertion to the rebellion than stormtrooper desertion to the rebellion

[@brentc2411]

​@Nametaken42069 well, that makes sense since the pilots can pilot ships other than tie fighters, whereas stormtroopers are shown to not be trained to pilot ships at all apparently.

[@julkarcerum7618]

​@@Inactive_Account29283well that and the Stormtrooper Corps was more or less like the Fedayeen Sadam -- fanatically loyal to the Empire, but the Emperor above all, and would not surrender (mostly) let alone desert

[@todddonaldson7974]

@@Inactive_Account29283 but there would be even more desertion if the ships had hyper drives

[@tsorevitch2409]

It's not a question of trust but a doctrine and intended use - TIE fighter is a very capable craft despite how they show in movies. Yes they do lack shields but shields are not a game changer on starfighter in SW universe - x-wing's shields can hold for 1-2 seconds under fire from a single TIE fighter. Shields do provide a better survivability but only against light flack or random shots. You should also consider that after end of clone wars there were no manor armed conflicts of such scale for several generations. Rebellion posed a terrorist treat and was not easy to find, but not an enemy in direct confrontation. 99% of empire navy have never seen a single rebel and were doing patrol, peace keeping and anti-piracy activities in millions of worlds across the galaxy. In most anything more than a TIE was just an overkill and as result just wase of money for empire. And empire added more capable crafts as rebellion treat increased. TIEi, TIEa, TIE defender and many more. Most of them were plain better than rebel alternatives in each and any aspect

[@Tuissi_Riccardo]

I really like this ship design. I think it looks like the opposite of a Star Destroyer: instead of being aggressive and sharp, it's peaceful and round.

[@raxenladevaldak1749]

Circle is the friend shape

[@witherwolf3316]

And in conjunction with that it has a lot of greebling on the top of the ship along the spine, drawing the faintest similarity to those seen on the sides of Imperial class Star Destroyers and the spines of Executor class Star Dreadnaughts.

[@ImperativeGames]

You realize it's a psychological manipulation aimed at people who think like dumb children do, right? Disney thinks people are very, very dumb.

[@khosrow]

I can totally see the New Republic going from a battle hardened military power to a limp one. Most of Europe quickly made that transformation after the end of the cold war. The military was cut down in manpower, material and training. Old personnel and leaders either adapted or were replaced. The doctrine was changed from being ready for battle to just maintaining the little force that remained, representative and policing duties.

[@TheTrueAdept]

The biggest reason for that is the 'End of History' memetic hazard that showed up during the '90s. In addition to that, there was no real reason (at the time) to keep Cold War-level military budgets. The thing is that military budgets tend to be economically reductive, not economically productive, especially when the Big Bad it was aimed at vanishes to the either.

[@khosrow]

@@TheTrueAdept I'm not saying that it was a bad policy. Just that a battle hardened military turning into a weak peace time army within a few years is nothing out of the ordinary.

[@mattstorm360]

And the enemy adapted to that policy. Instead of having a presence that anyone can point towards and say "hey we need a military", they just look fractured and stayed in hiding. Agents joined up with the New Republic acting as spies and secret recruiters as well as provide disinformation. I think one of my favorite bit of lore was when Leia was running for office it was leaked that Vader was her daddy. That basically killed her chances in office.

[@granatmof]

But even in Contemporary Europe it took decades of declining budgets and contentious procurement programs that resulted in no new weapon systems. It was only when a threat appeared that everyone realized how unprepared they had become. However Western Europe or NATO Europe would be more akin to system defense fleets in Star Wars. They're not really intended for global or galactic force projection, just regional projection. Europe is backed by the US much like local systems should be backed by the New Republic. The New Republic should be focused on sector security systems and equiping local systems to be able to hold off for so long before Reinforcements arrive. Essentially democratizing the military. And usi g the US as an example, there's numerous military bases across the US which have no military influence with local cities. Having clear distinctions that military cannot be used to enforce civilian law is a very clear step that the New Republic Lacks.

[@iExploder]

@@TheTrueAdeptYep. The End of History meme was all it took for centrist liberals to ignore the possibility of the fascists coming back with a vengeance.

[@matiasyannuzzi9655]

Star Destroyers were 1600 meters in length, not 600. Still smaller by the Starhawk, but not exactly dwarfed by it.

[@rawhidelamp]

1.5x an ISD is probably fair game to be considered dwarfed

[@matiasyannuzzi9655]

@@rawhidelamp IDK, the term "dwarfed" sounds like it applies if the thing being dwarfed is half as big (or smaller) as the thing it's being dwarfed by.

[@chaddavid2106]

@@matiasyannuzzi9655 an adult at 6 feet dwarfs a child of 4ft

[@leon1992dk]

For me I loved that moment with the arrogant captain (and all the moments that show the mentality of the new republic), as it ties in well into that "head-canon" me and some of my friends use regarding the recay of the New Republic. The eagerness of the Republic to believe that they have moved on from the war and Imperial rule, but in reality we see that the New Republic seems to be set-up to fail despite the rebellion against the Empire was succesfull. It brings a very interesting dynamic to the Star Wars world that we see new content in at the moment as the types of stories it helps facilitate. I look forward to seeing the "core" of the Rebellion to be branded warmongers and criminals by the New Republic, as they are treated as "the boy who cried wolf" too many times. Also, thanks for making your content, I truly enjoy all you put out there!

[@jeffengel2607]

Most people in the New Republic were not rebels. They made lives under the Empire - maybe not comfortably, maybe not with enthusiasm or real loyalty, but they chose to live under it rather than rebel. Every time a former rebel goes on about Imperial threats it's a reminder that those bystanders were wrong - or they can instead believe the former rebel is an alarmist. The latter is a lot more comfortable as a mindset.

[@damienlee1165]

I mean, if you look at real life, the parallels are there. We jumped from one world war right to the next, swore the second one would be last, and fast forward 80 years and a shit ton of smaller proxy wars to now where we are arguably on the verge of another possible world war. We just don't have cool space ships and laser swords.

[@daniels7907]

It's not even "head canon". Both in Legends and the new canon, the New Republic had a tendency towards complacency due to civilian politicians who, as you say, wanted to pretend that the wars were over and that the galaxy just wanted peace. Then there were secret Imperials among their ranks, including in the Senate. Ahsoka showcases this with the allegedly New Republic shipyards on Corellia being run by Imperial loyalists who wear NR lapel pins even as they facilitate the theft of assets. Senator Xiono seemed oddly uncurious as to why anybody would want to steal SSD hyperdrive cores when the NR is not building ships that big. If he were logical (or not getting bribed by the Imperial Remnant) then logic would lead to asking *who* needs SSD hyperdrives and *what* kind of ships do they want them for?

[@laxcatthesleepycat2688]

And its realistic aswell, you can ask people down here in latin america what happened after the cold war dictatorships; the responsibles are still here, they never changed and are still mostly unpunished, heck, in particular cases, even more powerful now than before

[@daniels7907]

@@laxcatthesleepycat2688 - Vladimir Putin still waxes nostalgic about the USSR more than three decades after it collapsed. People don't just abandon things they believe in because they're reduced in significance. Anybody following New Republic politics knows about the demilitarization efforts underway. So the Imperial Remnant knows that so long as they don't present an obvious threat to validate the warnings of people like Leia, then the new Senate will do their best to pretend that the galaxy is at peace. Which gives the Imperials time to rearm.

[@ichigen511]

Brother your channel is killing it right now. Has been for a while. Glad you are here to enlighten us with your insights. FYI I'm 51 years old been a fan since I was 5 years old in 1977. Loving Star Wars right now.

[@Buddy74656]

I definitely liked the Vesper. Something about it reminded me of both the Venator and Mon Cala ships of the Old Republic and Rebel Alliance.

[@TitoOverdrive]

6:13 Wookipedia clarifies this New Republic cruiser "Vesper" is around 1,000 meters in length.

[@tk-6967]

9:29 I'm not sure if the crew is as big as you are suggesting. The 2 dark jedi are said to have killed half the security detail when they exited the hangar, which suggests that there were only a couple dozen troopers on board. When you account for the fact that there were few other personnel but guards, it seems that these cruisers have very small crew sizes, probably more akin to a fairly large corvette like the CR-90s then a Nebulon cruiser.

[@TatsumiyaLightning]

In fairness, the estimated crew sizes for ships in the Star Wars universe have always been bonkers.

[@tk-6967]

@@TatsumiyaLightning True lol. But you'd think that the New Republic would have lots of droid security on board at least like in the Mandalorian if they were worried about organic crew size.

[@papapalps2415]

@@TatsumiyaLightning The idea that SW ships have particularly 'large' crews is such a comically funny display of why 99% of people who accuse sci-fi authors of having no sense of scale are bald faced hypocrites.

[@ambientlight3876]

I've always been fascinated by Star Wars spacecraft. This vessel seemed to be a much smarter choice when it comes to patrol duties. This would allow the new republic to spread out in ways the Empire couldn't imagine to do. That said, the Republic would still need to possess heavier hitters to help deal with rogue star destroyers. They would also need smaller patrol vessels in order to spread their peace keeping roles. Kind of like the fan made B wing patrol ship.

[@drewf41]

You're right, but I also think that part of the Empire's plan was 'make work'. If people are getting paid, while also being housed and fed, they're more docile.

[@Engine33Truck]

I honestly feel like this ship could take a lone star destroyer. Not by itself, but in conjunction with its fighter compliment. The Rebel Alliance built their naval tactics around their starfighters. It was out of necessity due to their lack of capital ships, but it made them very good at taking down very large targets with well-coordinated starfighter attacks. This cruiser has multiple hangers, so probably has 3 or 4 starfighter squadrons on board. Deploy them against the star destroyer while the ship itself lays down covering fire and draws the fire of the star destroyer away from the fighters.

[@graveyardshift6691]

@@Engine33Truck *starts laughing hysterically* No. A VSD alone has the power to 1v1 this ship. This kind of fight is what a Star Destroyer is built for. Standing its ground and slugging it out with an equal. Making itself 'bait' won't work because this is the kind of target a VSD or even an ISD would eagerly chew up and spit out. Not to mention and VSD would be able to easily match the NR fighter compliment with an equal number of TIEs to screen the VSD while it goes after the 'bait' ship. An ISD would be able to almost double up on them. So unless this thing is bristling with enough guns that it would go against the NR's 'more peaceful friendlier' doctrine, it will NOT win in a fight against a lone Star Destroyer. It would actually require them to gang up on a lone Star Destroyer and at least a fourth of each of their fighter compliment would have be Y-wing bombers. This ship as described is the NR's version of a Quasar Light Carrier. It has no business attacking anything heavier than a heavy frigate. A category that both Victory and certainly Imperial Class Star Destroyers fall WELL outside of.

[@kenle2]

Dude, they were being hailed by an old DIPLOMATIC shuttle with two people on board. With almost all of the Jedi gone (trillions of beings never having seen one or heard anything other than legends about them) the Captain made a completely rational assumption that his entire frigate's crew could handle a couple of Imperial hold-outs. "No one expects the Spanish Inquistion!" Or Dark Jedi who could take on hundreds of guys with blasters with their glowsticks.

[@goldfishclancy2991]

at 12:17 you can see 4 gun emplacements around the ATC tower. So it isn't entirely defenseless however anywhere else that gets attacked is going to be vulnerable.

[@tk-6967]

2:15 To be fair the Rebels heavily relied on special forces to win their battles, their actual foot soldiers were crap. Most of the troops we see in action during the movies have some sort of special status among the Rebels for different reasons, whether it be the Marines in Rogue One, Alderaanian royal guards in episode 4, rebel special forces in episode 5 and the pathfinders in episode 6 and in Rogue One. I am surprised we are still seeing many Mon Calamari in the fleet considering that they create a home defence fleet during this period. In fact that could explain the creation of these new hybrid cruisers, because the Mon Calamari are probably busy reorganising their own star cruisers and are probably still in the early stages of designing larger vessels we see in the Sequels, so they have provided a temporary design to keep the peace.

[@Ld7snake]

this is giving me a blend of Mon Cala designs from the sleek hull and engines and a star destroyers wedge on top of it that gives that psychological effect. i love it

[@Cwronaga216]

The design is not only based on the old concept art but seems to be related or at least redesigned from the mc-30 missile Cruiser heavily featured in the tabletop games Star Wars Armada in which that ship was also based on the same concept art. So until they come up with a name I'm going to assume it's an mc-30

[@redenginner]

Given that Armada also has the Victory 1&2 and Gladiators I hope that we will see some of the Empires non ISD assets.

[@mephisto8101]

The MC-30 was featured before that in Star Wars: Empire at War. Armada came after that. Oh boy, that was 2006. No wonder people hardly know that.

[@TerrenceChilds-xz3xu]

Alan you have done another in-depth analysis as always thank you so much

[@Litany_of_Fury]

Face on this ship has a smaller engine profile than usual. Engines are safe and so are the hangers. This ship is effective in a fight as it can focus shields in the front and focus it's real ability on the skirmish with many light craft.

[@CubanWriter]

"For the porpoise of this war..." LOL! I love you guys.

[@maevethefox5912]

I've seen a lot of sources put the Home One type at over 3km, which would size these up considerably. Though of course with Mon Cal ships the size was always kind of unique.

[@nitwitnik]

12:49 you can clearly see 3 maybe 4 hatches underneath the ditch which i would imagine to be weapons

[@user-Jay178]

It looks nice, just sucks that they never got to fight the first order and got blown up. Great video

[@incendior]

sequel never happened

[@nathanandsugar5252]

These and other vessels would still be operational after e7. They could join up with the resistance (those who didn’t give up like wimps).

[@QuangNguyenXuan-qb1ve]

true

[@InvictusByz]

12:39 "We don't even see any weapon emplacements..." 12:54 Shows us 4 weapon emplacements... they're just *very* small. So the ship has at least 4 point defense turrets, around the space traffic control tower.

[@torbk]

That's the Home One. I know it currently says 1300 meters, but back in the day it was considered to be longer than a Star Destroyer, being the rebel flagship. In return of the Jedi, as the fighters and craft fly past it before it jumps to hyperspace it was demonstrably longer than any other Rebel ship in the fleet that fought at Endor. That aside, lets accept that it is 1300 meters, the new ships don't look 1/3rd, they look about 1/2. Perspective matters. That makes them about 600m.

[@Kreachie]

8:10 “For the PORPOISE” I see what you did there GT.

[@jeffreyhughes5972]

Looks like it at least has 4, maybe 5 weapon turrets around the air control tower. they aren't big though, so I'd assume they were more for AA than ship-to-ship fire.

[@FireFlyMaxx]

Thank you for always giving us content. You always find the spaces between, and make a steady stream of well crafted thoughts. You make Millennials proud.

[@DMSProduktions]

Millenials? MEH!

[@FireFlyMaxx]

@@DMSProduktions I'm Gen-X, and I'd be proud if I put this much quality content out. So yeah he should be proud of his efforts.

[@DMSProduktions]

@@FireFlyMaxx Oh for sure! Al does a GREAT job. I just HATE his shilling crap in the middle of a vid. I skip over it!

[@FireFlyMaxx]

Shilling? You mean his adds? Yeah adds suck, but the man needs to pay his team and keep the lights on. I've done editing in the past on videos before KZbin was a thing, and not for free. I'm still giving him credit for that and being a good business man.

[@DMSProduktions]

@@FireFlyMaxx Yeah, he does a good job. Just annoyed my adblockers don't filter out inserted ads LOL!

[@kennethferland5579]

That MonCal cruiser your comparing to is clearly the HomeOne, who's size is highly disputed with some estimates putting it 3x longer then an ISD. A size extrapolation from the windows on the new ship would be far more reliable and in my opinion will yield a length of atleast 600m.

[@johnmarshall9604]

Agreed, especially since it appears to dwarf the 300m long Nebulon-bs in the fleet shots we've got so far. Assuming Mon Cala ship designations are structured MC(number representing reactor output)(letter designation for military built ship class), and that this is a Non Cala design, I'm tempted to call this an MC60b medium cruiser until we learn more.

[@heartwork86]

Lmao. Alan, that intro bit about the Mon Calamari was freakin' hilarious. And this is why I LOVE your channel. Keep up the great work, Master Content Creator.

[@donovanporter4545]

Mon motha is basically Neville Chamberlin and we all know what happened with him

[@ihaverabeez]

what I love about this new ship is that it looks like a 'democracy.' Each part has an aesthetic from a different alliance group - it looks like it's had it's fair share of compromise

[@iainballas]

When I first saw the captain and crew, I thought this was some NR ship out on a leisurely patrol that the sith were going to raid for intel. When I realized it was a prisoner transfer ship, I was flabbergasted. I know it's just for plot reasons, but seeing the captain act the way he was is a total facepalm moment for me. He did the equivalent of stopping your prisoner van because someone in a shoddy CIA uniform was holding out their thumb, and then letting them aboard without even asking their name.

[@lukedalton]

He also come in the hangar with a full security details fully knowing that they were fraud and ready to arrest them and interrogate them later...unfortunely they were really force wielder (an extreme rarity at the time, really there are probably a dozen of them in the entire galaxy so in all honestly the captain reaction has been pretty much normal), so while arrogant it was also prudent enoung to go there prepared and his action will be enough in all normal circumstance

[@Dennis-vh8tz]

@8:10 For the _porpoise_ of this war? At 1/3 the length of an MC80, this frigate would be approximately 1/27 the volume and thus resources. Imperial ships tended to have large crews, this ship, which looks much like the Quarren made CIS vessels, may have a far smaller crew with droids performing maintenance and repair supervised by organic officers. A small capital ship like this, with a squadron of fighters and a few shuttles or light freighters, would be a great hero ship for an ensemble of characters.

[@styledliving]

1/3 the length, but this porpoise is really wide tho.

[@Ghostfury2004]

The ship looks likes that missile boat in empire at war

[@notworthyy]

i really like these types of videos, where its just talking about a vehicle and its weaknesses/strengths and what it compares to

[@TERMICOBRA]

Any idea of what kind of damage Skoll and Hati did to this ship before they left? Seems like a lot of debris around it.

[@GenerationTech]

I imagine they trashed the ship and for good measure flew around and shot it up for no reason 😂 complete dickhead move. Like why is there carbon scoring on the outside.

[@senathperera2051]

I was also confused as why were they carbon scoring outside the hull.😂😂

[@sirboomsalot4902]

I think Hera said they scuttled it. So they probably had pre-placed scuttling charges (as many warships irl do) which they set off

[@sirboomsalot4902]

@@senathperera2051I took those as being holes from internal explosions

[@Rincewind75]

1:19 "Fish out of water" LMAO!!!

[@theromanorder]

Nice video, But DAY 168 PLEASE DO MORE VIDEOS ON TACTICS AND STRUCTURES LIKE THE CIS NAVY STRUCTURE AND RANKS

[@tk-6967]

I am glad that someone you have put up some good points in favour of this cruiser. Initially I have been very much against this ship especially when I saw how ridiculously positively people were treating it, but I love the nuanced take here.

[@BensBrickDesigns]

I loved seeing this in the show, but it made me sad to see another capital ship LEGO won't make.

[@Fedaygin]

Good as then it's less plastic waste to harm Planet Tellus & Sentient Beings 🙂

[@Lazywarp]

Did I have a stroke or did I hear this right? "...Civic buildings underwater I mean for the porpoise of this war don't get me..." well played, well played.

[@nick3xtremegaming212]

I feel bad for the Rebels. So many bled and died enduring years of struggle just for this nightmare of a state to develop. its almost an insult

[@charlesesseltine7054]

"For the 'porpoise' of this war...." I WAS DRINKING ▒▒▒▒ IT!

[@meepmeep8035]

I still maintain that disney shot themselves in the foot by setting the sequel trilogy so close to Endor. Or rather it wouldn't be a big deal if they had kept the New Republic military. Now I feel there's less room to explore the New Republic era relative to the other republic eras as it practically only lasted 30 years...

[@Planag7]

I think the problem is they're focusing on big stories when I feel you could have done something like mandalorian and just explore the small seedy areas but you know... can't resist the urge of going big

[@antoineguerrier2965]

The Empire didn't last much longer. How old was Luke by the end of the OT? 30?

[@sirboomsalot4902]

To be fair; the Empire also only lasted about 30 years

[@cliffjumper416]

The New Repubilc cruiser looks like the baby of a Mon Calamari cruiser and a Venator Class Star Destroyer

[@AFriend748]

I always say that the Venator was the best ship overall, in a 1v1 it world lose to a lot of similar/bigger ships but with its fight/bomber compliments it could take down a hell of a more and could arguably take down a resurgence class or A dreadnought class super star destroyer…

[@themanyouwanttobe]

I love the anti-Tarkin doctrine at play here. Another advantage of having a focus on hangars is that it makes it easier for non-New-Republic ships to dock, which obviously didn't end well this time, but given the NR is trying to have systems set up their own defense forces, it's good to be able to bring them aboard for joint missions and negotiations.

[@thegreenmanofnorwich]

The scaling against a Home One type MC80 is really difficult. Home One itself often appears to be about 3km long on screen, irrespective of what source books say.

[@janwitts2688]

A sensible weapon is two super powerful tractor beams so you can use them on different sections of an enemy ship and rip them apart

[@larslaufer301]

Or one beam with fast altering directions, push and pull altering at the second or milisecon intervals. That should put on enough stress on any material to rip it appart. Alternativly, maybe rotate the beam so its like a screw boring into the targets hull.

[@chillylytical9410]

I would like to imagine something like this would make use of a large amount of hidden pdt systems paired with a large amount of missile tubes. Basically in a large scale battle serving as a fighter/ missile screen while being able to dump a large amount of torpedo's/missiles from both fighters and launch silos so that it would overwhelm and burst down larger ships. Or have the missiles serve as a large screening tool destroying several squadrons of fighters or smaller warships to allow your fighters to get the jump on a less defended capital ship. This would explain why there isnt really any visible weapons as the pdts would just be retracted under the hull while missile silos are just covered by physical blast sheilds.

[@jeffreycarman2185]

I’m hoping that that gap in the main hull between the main parts of the ship and the engines is a modular area for freight containers or personnel transport modules, hospital modules,or external racks for quick-deployable fighters (sort of like the Gozanti-class cruisers and the TIE racks). If that’s what these are, this medium or light cruiser could actually be the ideal ship for peace keeping and patrol.

[@rich24h]

The captain even brought them fresh sushi.

[@rosscalhoun3389]

I think the rant about the Mon Calamari is my favorite thing I've ever seen on this channel.

[@jharrisbrooks]

The Piece lasers clip had me laughing so hard. Blink and you miss it but it was gold. Great video man!

[@charliedulin]

I tbought the bridge scene was too "Star Trek". Sounded and acted like Kirk "Have security meet me in the transporter room, I want to meet these people. Spock you're with me, Mr. Sulu you have the con."

[@cyberbellum]

Why is nobody talking about his "for the porpoise" joke at 8:07

[@jeffreycarman2185]

5:15 I had a similar feeling, it made me think of the passenger Starliner from The Mandalorian Season 2.5

[@evilwelshman]

I know it was just an off-hand comment. However, I feel it made sense that the Empire concentrated its resources on big vessels like Star Destroyers since it ruled more through intimidation. Its focus was on keeping potentially rebellious planets pacified, as opposed to maintaining security against pirates and smugglers. There is a certain prestige and threat from seeing a single Star Destroyer, that isn't quite the same as seeing a few frigates. Sure, it can only be in a fewer places but like I said - the Empire ruled by intimidation. Knowing that the Empire has them and could bring one into your sector if it chose to, was sufficient.

[@mehmeteking]

"It's all fun and games until they start measuring your skull and saying your are not human enough..." Hahahahhaa...

[@robertmiller5607]

Please look up the MC30 mon cal light cruiser. They carried armament typical for frigates or LT cruiser of the era. IIRC 16 turbo lasers and a modest amount of laser cannons. Plus some ordinance launchers in the front. Good shielding and average armor for a ship of its size.

[@cammando2363]

We also don’t get a good look at the bottom of the ship, there is likely to be a bigger hanger bay there. Either sporting another frigate or able to capture vessels.

[@alexandercain8904]

8:10 "For the porpoise of this war..." I see what you did there. Humanity first!!!

[@Mo-1967]

Isnt the Ship a mc 30c frigate from legends?

[@locarno24]

Theres also the fact that a smaller carrier generally means a faster and more manouvrable a ship - a light carrier like this can run away from heavier warships that a supercarrier like a venator couldnt evade.

[@knoxdowell2718]

I wanna see a version of this ship with a full interior hanger, with all the hanger ports connected on the inside in an extremely large hanger.

[@appo9357]

0:30 The negotiations were short

[@non-user]

3:58 you mean by 600m HIGH imperial star destroyers? they are 1.7km, not 600m.

[@pacocheung1864]

Mom calamari cruiser legacy: MC30 - close range missile boat MC40 - ion cannon boat MC60 - Disabler/Support cruiser MC75 - Proton torpedo spam MC80a - Main line battle cruiser (also applies to the MC80 liberty type) MC80 Home one - Super carrier Viscount - Republic Super Star Destroyer Gotta say the New republic cruiser has A LOT to live up to

[@c.i.a.7391]

"For the porpoise of this war", did bro just sneak in a fish joke while talking about the mon Cala?

[@SirMilone]

There are four turbo lasers around the communication tower!

[@WickedPrince3D]

The ship is pretty cool looking. Very much like a hybrid Mon Cal/Corellia design. But the big point in big ships like this is to look like you can defend the area you are in, which means visible weapons. You don't do much for the moral of systems you claim you can protect when you send huge passenger liners to visit them to show your strength.

[@thebigpurplefloof]

Probable just point defence weapons centred round the bridge and central trench / hangers

[@CJ-BZ]

this is like a better Arquitens or a mini Venator

[@Goofy_Dominican]

Allen when the New Republic makes some random brick fly: Starhawk!

[@SoloRenegade]

it actually makes sense the New Republic would have a rocky start. Lots of empire loyalists remain. Lots of worlds to establish order in with few Alliance personnel built up thus far. lots of corruption to route out.

[@pizaclatonddd3081]

You see those compartments up top? bet you those are turbo lasers with dedicated armor slots to hide them.

[@The_Unamed_Commissar5721]

Haven’t watched the show, but it looks similar to the MC-30 Torpedo Frigate

[@jakecook2375]

Damn that is a versatile ship

[@Vincent.Morreale]

It's a nice looking ship and LOVED it the moment I saw it!

[@brentc2411]

It's a ship from Empire at War, might be upscaled a little. Also pretty sure the MC80 shown in the series was Home One. May have been its sister ship though.

[@B.matrix]

You six guys are going to be extras in this scene. 6 guys: yay! Bob, you have to wear the fish head. Bob: dang.

[@andrewchenault1366]

You can see Nebulon's around teh MC30's and they're easily dwarfed. This thing has gotta be at least 600-700m

[@kajn3206]

The ship model is nice, mainly a much better ship for the purposes of the republic, although I would prefer a hammerhead cruiser, although it seems to me that it is exactly the same role

[@essa6315]

I like the change in this channel. Funny stuff

[@CanadianLegionaire]

I've always been more of a Halo fan when it comes to ships, they feel the most realistic and just look the best in my opinion. That and the whole "you built guns on your ship, while I built a ship around my gun!" strategy they got going. But I gotta say, this new New Republic ship is pretty damn good looking. Alongside the Venator and the hammerhead from KOTOR, its probably one of my favorite ship designs in SW. Edit: Just as I post this, I realize that my three favorite ships belong to the three major eras of the Republic.

[@granatmof]

Hammerheads are pretty cool, especially as they were meant to be ships of the line. Put all your heavy armor and weapons on the front and form up in parallel to minimize cross section and suddenly the enemy can only hit your heaviest armor while you fire back in force. I'm not sure which channel explained the usefulness if the hammerhead, but in doing so it makes sense. Honestly the old republic fleets make just a little more sense. Heck the old republic fighter was used for like 4000 years.

[@CanadianLegionaire]

@@granatmof Plus they have one of the most iconic design in all of star wars. So many factions, that being the sith empire, the republic and subsequent galactic empire, the first order, and to an extent Revans empire, all basically use the Doritos ship style in one shape or form. The hammerhead on the other hand, is instantly recognizable and distinct from all the others.

[@Glocky_Recoilz0sk]

Generation tech going to hit a Milli soon !🎉

[@SolarEclipseProductions]

the comment about not seeing weapon implacements. I have to add after noticing on the fly throughs there are 4 laser battery's arround the tower after of the ship and likely other defences in that area to protect the hanger bays and control tower the forward looks to just rely on the armor plating and shielding to screen what an effective fight screen misses as looks like there is nothing on the forward section of the ship.

[@InTheBasementProduct]

At 3:57 you say the ISD is 600m. I was confused because I always remembered ISDs as being over a Km long. I assume it was just a slip of the tongue and you meant to say 1,600m. Which, yeah, is still absolutely dwarfed by a 2,400m Starkhawk.

[@erikjan15585]

12:40 there are some point defense cannons in its exposed section, still not much though

[@captainroyalty904]

Where exactly? Can you please point out?

[@erickndolo7496]

Hey, can u do a full mechanical breakdown of "THE HYPERDRIVE"....

[@danielbeck2739]

I do like the design choice they went for with this ship and can see the potential it has in an escort/enforcement patrol role. And assuming it is carrying on with Mon Cala design principles it would have the staying power to absorb a level punishment from say that pirate carrier from the Mandalorian series with shields alone. Have the engine power to keep up and/or outrun most other larger ships. A reasonable fighter compliment with the 4 hangars that can be loaded with not just fighters but other shuttle and small hyperdrive equipped patrol craft to be the vanguard or relay comms from squadrons if they happen to be too far away to get a signal to the carrier with intel or calls for aid. And as for weapons, the Mon Cala were known for not just shields but powerful sensor equipment too. Most of the MC-80 turbo lasers could actually target and shot most fighter craft and even intercept missiles to higher accuracy than Imperial IIs on average. So, this ship might have probably something very similar with ion cannons and lighter turbo lasers. And something else that caught my eye, just behind the main hull there are these large structures that sort of reminds me of the MC75 in an odd way. If we are assuming this was based around a MC30 frigate, they might actually be missile launchers. I get this the New Republic and chances are they would more than likely crap themselves and act like atypical imperials and fall on their swords and faces with just hubris alone, but missiles can come with a variety of warheads. And if they are encountering say that pirate ship again and another 2 or 3 join the party out of hyperspace. Those missiles would be the equalizers to wreck 1 or 2 of those capitol ships and give the cruiser some ability to contribute more to taking on something larger like an Imperial II or an Executor and keep well out of turbo battery range long enough for its squadrons to least give them a corridor to come in from and drop shots from a few ion cannons to disrupt before bolting it again and calling for reinforcements. Well, that's assuming you has someone competent in charge, and let's be honest that is looking more and more in short supply given the ineptitude of what we've seen so far here and, in the movies, alone...

[@sunszenith]

You should take a look at Infinite Lagrange, the depth of space combat is something awesome