The Deadliest Space Fighters In Science Fiction, Ranked

[@mawkishdave]

Nasa asked for permission to copy the Starfury designee. It never got built but they wanted it as a little service craft for the ISS.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

It would totally work. They even use the Starfurys as service craft and tow craft every now and then on the show, as an extra duty

[@cdevidal]

When I saw this video in my feed I immediately thought of the Last Starfighter and that Death Blossom scene. Glad I wasn’t disappointed.

[@peternordgren]

@@GiantFreakinRobot Also ISTR seeing something like a simplified Starfury in bright yellow here and there.

[@komodosp]

I believe permission was given on condition that NASA called them Starfuries!

[@theknave69]

You got me. Holding the Starfury for last. I loved some of the runs on the cap ships. Turning sideways and raking the hull with fire while using inertia to continue on course.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Glad the build up was worth it!

[@Grey_Shard]

Last Starfighter is one of the few movies I'd like to see remade with modern effects.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

It would be amazing

[@DngnRdr]

A remake followed by a sequel if the remake succeeds... they just need to cast it perfectly (preferably unknowns IMO).

[@caveatlector2671]

Keep the movie as is and just redo all SFX like they they did with STTOS remastered. Current Hollywood would absolutely butcher any remake and strip it of any of the innocence, charm, wonder and character of the original, not to mention that they would swap the main protagonist from Alex to Alexis "the non-binary bestest evah" in their self-righteous chase of the _Modern Audience._

[@Wolf359inc]

I’d like to see a sequel, where mankind has been embraced by the other races of our galaxy. I’d love to see how our daily lives change, due to the advances in our technology, and show what a human-designed Gunstar was capable of (you know it would bring absolute devastation, beyond that of the original Gunstar, because we humans have a knack for both turning anything into a weapon, and creating overpowered devices of destruction - it comes from having to survive on a death world, I guess. Humans are Space Orcs! :) ). Cheers,

[@Deevo037]

Yes but Hollywood would stuff it up by having forced diversity and Alex being a gay female character just because they can.

[@ChuckieFinzter]

I guessed it would be the B5 Starfury before I even started watching.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

That’s because you’re a true nerd, welcome friend

[@cdevidal]

And I correctly guessed Last Starfighter and the Gunstar with its Death Blossom before I even clicked on the video

[@Chindogu133]

Yup, the only ones that operate in three dimensional space. All the other ones basically operate in space the same as atmosphere

[@thegneech]

I am pleased the Gunstar made the list. :)

[@lonniemcclure4538]

As soon as I saw the title, I thought, "I'm going to be very disappointed if the Gunstar isn't on this list".

[@Koenshakuable]

The Gunstar solo's the Ko-Dan Armada... Everybody else needs to phone a friend.

[@KrawmKruach]

sure the gunstar requires 2 people to effectively operate, and it should be classified a gunboat not a fighter, still if i had to choose between starfury or gunstar, picking gunstar everythime.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

If I need to take on an Armada I take the Gunstar. If I’m in a dogfight I take a Starfury

[@JeremyMeyer-h6g]

Gotta vote Gunstar no contest. Movie Gunstar equipped with Death Blossom was a prototype with extra armor plating to take several direct hits. Starfury can turn on a dime and surprise you. Gunstar doesn't need to when you can shoot in practically every direction, plus wide variety of weapons, a stardrive, (hyperdrive), of it's own and capable of trans-atmospheric flight. It also has the maneuvering thrusters as demonstrated in one scene.

[@afoolandhismoneychannel]

No Starfighter from Buck Rogers? I love that ship!

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

It was a contender! Just didn't make the cut. Close though.

[@caveatlector2671]

Thunderfighter is cool and all but just a cheap knock off, much like the Viper MK.I from the original BSG*, of the X-Wing which will always win out in comparison. *The greatest demerit of the MK.II, III, VII from NuBSG is the omission of the go-fast Turbo button on the stick... loved the kick you back in your seat, dragon's breath exhaust spectacle of it.

[@chrislenz6634]

Number 1 in my book

[@t.j.johnson7026]

It is the prettiest design by far.

[@ChayMiddleton]

Yeah I was waiting for that one

[@retluoc]

I was hoping that the Gunstar would make your list. That was one of my favorite 80s movies. I bought the 25th anniversary DVD. It's just too bad that it was a "one-off." I wanted sequels. 😀

[@jefff3886]

"Death Blossom." "Death Blossom?" "It's never been tested. Might overload the systems. Blow up the ship." "What are you worried about? Theoretically, we should already be dead." "Yeah, well..."

[@jacobdorow6374]

I really like the list. It's probably not a Starfighter but I really like the ship from The Expanse, the Rocinade

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Yeah, the Roci is too big to be a fighter. It's in that weird middle tier small ship class with the Falcon and the Razorcrest, and the Serenity.

[@Nachtschicht1]

@@GiantFreakinRobot really a class of very loveable little ships. I would add the Defiant from DS9 and the Bebop from Cowboy Bebop, although the Defiant might be a little to big already.

[@brownro214]

Rocinante

[@jacobdorow6374]

@brownro214 yeah I should have looked up the spelling. I was winging it

[@Nachtschicht1]

@@jacobdorow6374 I wrote Defiance first, but it looked a bit odd, so I looked it up 😅

[@Wolf359inc]

Great list. Was hoping for both the T-65 X-wing, and the Gunstar, and expected the Star Fury to take the top spot. B5 was/ is a great show. It really changed the landscape for sci-fi, and TV shows, in general, with its five-year arc, but great characters, and “real life” treatment of beings surviving in space, was just the cherry on top. Also, the evolution of the characters throughout the show. It was like a well organised role-playing game campaign… :) Was it perfect? No. I can admit that. But it was one hell of a ride. Though, I must confess, I was almost relieved when they introduced the White Star, and its later versions, with Mimbari gravity technology. B5 had many moments that still bring a tear to the eye of this 55 year old. Possibly my favourite must be, “Today is Saturday” (or was it Sunday? Damn…). “I think I’ll go for a drive.” IYKYK… I would only change two things in the show: . Confirming a full five seasons for J Michael Straczynski, in advance; and . Having Sinclair stay through the entire run, rather than having him replaced after the first season (yes, I know the actor was struggling with his mental health at the time, which necessitated the change. Would that this had never been an issue for him - Rest in Peace). I would make these changes, as I want to see JMS’s original five year vision of the show. I don’t argue that some of the forced changes in the show ultimately made some things better, and gave us an unforgettable character, in Bruce Boxleitner’s John Sheridan, but I would have loved to have seen Ivanova as the station commander in season five. Cheers, Now I want to rewatch the whole damn thing again… ❤

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@marcelosm03]

I missed the thunderfighter from Buck Rogers in the 25th Century on this list

[@tungzauzage977]

Agreed, the Starfury would only now face real competition with the likes of the Rocinante from the expanse in real space physics. Babylon five was a very well written and the most realistic sci-fi shows around, still love the battle scenes.

[@kitten9416]

i was like were not going to get the best... and then it shows up at #1 with an the second at #5. so glad your list was actually made with real thought

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Thanks! So you’d have put the Hammerhead at 2?

[@MAWSAFGJP-p5b]

Great list. What is your opinion of the robotech fighters?

[@Koenshakuable]

I was thinking the same thing. Veritech's crush. How about the Cosmo zero in Space Battleship Yamato, or Spike's swordfish in Cowboy Beebop? I suppose that's all fuel for at least another two lists, right?

[@Saintbow]

Can we get a honorable mention for the Prowlers from Farscape? I know the scenes were limited for battle, but it is a cool space fighter. Also I think the Rapier from the Wing Commander movie was also a great looking fighter. Thanks for the list!

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

I strongly considered the Prowler, it just did not quite make the cut! I even had a version of it I cut with the Prowler in the intro, but the Pterodon ended up looking better.

[@KrawmKruach]

prowlers had a very lethal look to them, like you could tell rigth away that there was a right end and a wrong end and you didnt want the wrong end pointing at you.

[@Captain_Razor_88]

My working head canon theory (until proven otherwise in official lore) for why star wars fighters bank is that the repulsor technology introduced in the world space is responsible. Its' tech is highly compact and modular but also surface space dependent, such as the flat surfaces of the main body and wings on an X-wing and could possible take up too much space to allow for traditional RCS thrusters. This would explain why we don't see these craft pull similar stunts to what a BSG Viper is capable of. Such a system would not require fuel and few to no moving parts and be extremely robust, to the point that part of a wing can be blown off and the tech in the remaining part of the wing continues to function. It also explains the VTOL nature of these craft with no visible exhaust ports. The reason they don't use it as a primary drive system comes back to surface space, there isn't enough of it in the rear to achieve speeds and acceleration that matches conventional engine thrusters, not without compromising the rear profile of a starship making it an easy target for enemy craft. Another possibility is that such craft DO have RCS thrusters that would allow for high maneuver turning but at the cost of speed, we see this in BSG when fighters of both sides are pivoting, they look like they are either at an almost standstill, or at least going slow enough that an incoming enemy fighter would have an easy lock-on. Hence they opt to use the repulsors at all times. This would explain the maneuverability edge Tie Fighters have over X-wings due to the sheer amount of flat surface space they have on their wings both outwards and in. They can turn on a dime and angling up or down doesn't require much maneuver power due to the overall shape of the ship, plus more repulsor tech in the wing struts.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

I like it. A good theory

[@dawfydd]

Ok, you got a win for putting the Sa-43 my favorite fighter then an ultra combo win for featuring the best starfighter at the top! B5 is my favorite scifi series! It really should be watched by more people, same goes for space above and beyond! I love Starwars but.. space fighters just aren't the same as fighter jets so these other shows are much cooler. Though i still can't find myself liking the Gunstar, perhaps if it was part of a game, i feel its design could work as a player ship in a game.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

We just need a modern CGI render of the Gunstar, I think it could win you over then!

[@artturner2054]

Last Starfighter was my first ever date movie

[@spacemanspiff3052]

Great list, totally agree!!!!👍

[@MWD1234567]

Good video.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@markwells3289]

Thank you; the Starfury is easily the most realistic starfighter in mainstream sci-fi,

[@Runescope]

I know that for Star Wars, the X-Wing is the goto starfighter, but in actual combat (admittedly through games since the 90's) The A-Wing ALWAYS outperforms the X-Wing. While it's only got two cannons, it carries just as many torpedoes, had hyperjump capabilities, comparable shields and is MUCH faster and more manoeuvrable. I once shot down over 50 Tie fighters (a mixture of regular, & interceptor class) with all opposing pilots being at Ace level, IN AN ASTEROID FIELD with an A-Wing. A beautiful, sleek and deadly ship that for some reason always gets overlooked.

[@InternetGravedigger]

It isn't just the x-wing that's skewed toward fantasy... the whole franchise is basically about space wizards. The 'Death Blossom' system was only on the Gunstar piloted by Alex, it was a prototype. Also, I've seen newer movies with worse computer graphics, it was actually pretty good for the time. No clips from the original BSG? It should be noted that the Viper predates everything on this list except the X-wing, as Star Wars came out a year earlier.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Oh Last Starfighter was GREAT graphics for the time! But it’s a tough sell for new people

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

And there were so many awesome BSG 04 clips I could not make room for

[@jeffanderson8165]

The thing about Star Wars can best be explained by translating the opening line... "A long time ago..." translates to "Once upon a time..." "... In a galaxy far, far away..." translates to "... In a faraway land..." Pure and simple, Star Wars is a fairy tale. (Mind you, I still enjoy some of it...)

[@InternetGravedigger]

@@jeffanderson8165 Interesting fact about the Death Star: it used enormous khyber crystals to focus the beam for the planet destroyer... in essence, it was a giant lightsaber.

[@jamaltientenn]

Robotech Macross had the best scifi fighters

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

There are some other anime ones I'd put ahead of them, honestly.

[@jamaltientenn]

@GiantFreakinRobot I was just thinking of 80s and back

[@JaredHight-g4e]

Maybe they aren’t the most efficient, but you get all the best features of an F-16 and a gundum, with no drawbacks.

[@benrussell-gough1201]

I've always loved how the Starfury's 'free rotation' tactics were toned down in later seasons of Babylon 5 because studio executives felt that it was 'unrealistic'. Like the Hammerhead, there is a 'black project' urban myth about the Starfury: That it was designed by the USAF space command (now the USSF) but was leaked to Babylon 5's production team for purposes of plausible deniability.

[@randallraszick6001]

No Buck Rogers? Come on.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Was in consideration but didn’t make the cut

[@bricepearson2121]

Good list

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Thanks! Really appreciate the positive feedback

[@jacobdorow6374]

It's awesome how defining the X-Wing is for sci-fi. You can definitely see inspiration for the Babylon 5 and BSG fighters coming from the X-Wing.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

I don’t see any X-Wing in the BSG fighter designs. More airplane.

[@jacobdorow6374]

@GiantFreakinRobot really? The long nose with the exact shaped cockpit. The paint job is an exact Red Squadron rip off as well.

[@RazielGrace]

loved the lists but I did actually think when I watched this it was about the deadlist space fighter as in "number of kills" still a great list over all. Love these ship designs I've seen some replicated in games like "space engineers"

[@williamsquires3070]

Actually, I prefer the Mk. I Viper over the later ones. I definitely agree about the X-wing, though, mostly because it’s FTL capability means it doesn’t have to have a mothership hovering nearby; it can stay back out of range if things get hot, and call for backup, then jump in with the Star fighters as needed be. Another, though not a Star fighter as such, is the Starfleet runabout from DS9. Even the smaller shuttle craft in Picard’s era had warp drive, but the runabout was better armed I think, and it was better suited for longer patrol or exploratory missions. Finally, I like the Buck Rogers starfighters, too.

[@Stinger522]

The F-302 from Stargate didn't make the list.

[@DngnRdr]

Babylon 5 leaves virtually every other space sci-fi in the dust when it comes to realism - and it's arguably better than either Star Wars or Star Trek in many ways.

[@jefff3886]

I've been a Star Trek fan since Captain Kirk first appeared on TV screens in 1966, and all the later spinoffs too. TNG, DS9, VOY, and all the movies too. I still watch episodes on streaming almost every day and probably will until the day I pass. But even so, I still think B5 is the best S-F show ever put on TV. And it's all because of one guy and his passion for the show, Executive Producer J. Michael Straczynski. Babylon 5 was his brainchild and his baby, and without his drive to get this show on TV we would never know about it, because the networks were lukewarm about the show, coming out when the popularity of Next Generation was peaking and Deep Space 9 had just started. It's speculated that the networks were thinking, "Oh no, another show about space stations and aliens, uh no thanks." But JMS never gave up, and now we're lucky to know the greatest S-F show ever. By the way, check out The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5, an in-depth wiki of all things B5, including commentary on each episode by the man himself; what he was thinking, what he was trying to accomplish in this or that episode, why he did this or that particular thing or did it in that particular way. It's a fascinating insight into the creative process and into the man himself, his drive and total commitment to the show.

[@DangerMouse35]

If you like realism in your SciFi then may I recommend the Expanse.

[@markfergerson2145]

In print-only SF (because nobody can figure out how to put it on big or small screens) there is Stephen Baxter’s “Xeelee Cycle” books. Therein is the Nightfighter, designed by aliens… it has a neutronium hull, “wings” made of two dimensional spatial defects, can accelerate at billions of gravities without harming the pilot, and some have *time drives*. It must be piloted by someone wearing a spacesuit because its only weapon is the *handheld* Starbreaker”, which is a coherent gravity beam project tor that can make Star go supernova.

[@thatblastedsamophlange]

Gunstar should be higher on the list. IT has a full spherical weapon coverage, heavy weapons and missiles. Even without the experimental Death Blossom, The ship was an absolute powerhouse. The only disadvantage might be the need for the Navigator and Starfighter (gunner). I think if we ever see a sequel/remake of the Last Starfighter, we'll see tall the features of the Gunstar - it has all the engines to move just like a star fury, the afore mentioned spherical firing arc for the primary weapon, shields and FTL. It's the Best Starfigther Design around as far as I'm concerned. We just didn't see more of it because of the technology (and budget) of the time.

[@Sm00k]

Oh, the Watchtower.

[@dmac7128]

The Viper name was also given to the real F-16 fighter as a nickname by its pilots. And I think the rendered model of the Gunstar is still pretty good. But the rendering of everything else definitely hasn't aged that well. Time and cost were major limiting factors back then. They had to make compromises to finish the film in the time they were given.

[@TheCasualDeathworlder]

Couple of notes. As far as the Galactica series...The Battlestar Galactica had Mkll's AND MkVll's (though only a few of the latter survived the original destruction of the colonies. You can see them throughout the series. The Pegasus did not bring MkVll's, she brought MkVll-E's a highly updated design. As for the Star Furies...The Vipers use the exact same mechanics, and are frequently shown to be more maneuverable than the Star Furies. Additionally, the Vipers are a substantially smaller target. Combine that with the higher maneuverability and my money goes on the Viper every time.

[@dhaucoin]

Best detail about the Starfury is the tagline, showcasing its lack of beauty, and incredible offensive capabilities of the twin pulse cannons mounted beneath the cockpit- 'Ugly, but well hung'

[@johnathan651]

As a kid, I always looked at a Starfury as sort of an "opposite X-wing." The Starfury is very short lengthwise where the X-wing is long, and the locations of the engines and weapons are switched. It's funny that they're on opposite ends of the "realism spectrum", too.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Very true!

[@jeffanderson8165]

Good list, but respectfully, I'd rank the Gunstar as the top fighter. Two main reasons... One: it is more capable than either the Viper or the Starfury. First, it has more missiles than either of the other two craft, plus it has all five of its guns mounted in turrets, giving it omnidirectional gun coverage without needing to rotate the craft. This enables even faster responses than with the other two craft. Second, and perhaps even more importantly, it predates the Viper and Starfury by a significant margin. Would either of those ships exist without the Gunstar? Maybe not; it's entirely possible that the VFX people for both shows were inspired by the imagery in Last Starfighter to do the flight/battle visuals that they did. (Okay, okay, there was the Viper from the original, 1978 BSG, but that flew atmospheric style, just like your justified complaints about the X-wing. The Gunstar was the first Sci-Fi space fighter that flew with Newtonian physics in mind.) That little aside, aside, IMO, the Gunstar should be number one.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Love the effort you put into your argument. Thank you!

[@brentwilliams6603]

My vote goes to the Quaedlunn-Rau Battle Suit (aka Female Power Armor) from Super Dimension Fortress Macross. And if your reply is going to be “It’s a mecha, not really a space fighter”, it seems to me that they ravaged the defending VF-1 series Valkyries (and canonically those are very definitely space fighters)

[@KrawmKruach]

i would argue the gunstar is the better option vs the starfury simply because of ablative armor, additional weaponry and integrated FTL. Dont get me wrong the starfury would be my number one pick IF there wasnt a gunstar option, because given the choice between a gunstar and a starfurry...i am taking the gunstar any day of the week. good versus fighters, multirole ship, and capital ships, the gunstar is the superior beatdown delivery system

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

I’d take the Gunstar against bigger ships but not in a one on one dogfight

[@KrawmKruach]

@@GiantFreakinRobot I love the starfury, but it wouldn't make it past the gunstars turret's. Which are quite capable of locking on and tracking the starfury. Also the gunstar is just as maneuverable as a starfury. Now technically the gunstar should be disqualified on the grounds it's not a Starfighter, it is a gunboat or a patrol cruiser, it's primary purpose is patrolling star systems and then to engage multiple wings of fighters or even capital class ships. the proper argument here would be that the starfury is the superior fighter and the gunstar is the superior gunboat.

[@andyf4292]

BSG Best space battles , ever

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Not even close. Way better than anything in any movie even. Even Star Wars can’t touch it

[@orlock20]

Vipers were so cool that a real fighter, the F-16 Falcon, is almost never called the Falcon but instead called the Viper. The best fighter, in my opinion, is the VF-1 Valkyrie from Robotech. Not only can it be used as a fighter, but as a ground mech.

[@mattnoble2100]

The star fury Aurora can enter the atmosphere just once Canon also says it carries 4 missiles on hardpoints by the way NASA bought the blueprints for the star fury with the provision from Evanston that is some point in the future the design will be used in actual space construction

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

It’s a solid design. I could see it

[@ajteer]

For a fighter, I'm going with the Tie Defender...If I'm expanding some, I'm going with the Roci from the Expanse.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Roci is not a fighter!

[@ajteer]

@@GiantFreakinRobot Maybe you didn't catch the "If I'm expanding some" remark...

[@BdogFinal14]

The Hammerhead is my all time favorite, next to the BSG Vipers. Their only problem, they were rendered too small. Both should have been twice their size, to carry all its fuel and ammo.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

That’s always one of the things you have to gloss over to make space fighters work

[@andyf4292]

those s-foils would cause gun harmonisation problems

[@jarethgriethe4439]

Not sure I would have put any ship from Star Wars on the list at all. Their designs simply aren't practical but if one had to go on the list then either the X or A Wing probably deserves the slot. One quibble on another ship though is the Gunstar: Death Blossom wasn't standard armament. It was a prototype system that Grig had developed and was only on what became Gunstar One

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

I just couldn’t leave the X-Wing off. You’re right but its too cool.

[@jamesmartin9401]

I agree with the Starfury/Thunderbolts as number 1, but you all left out the F-302's from the Stargate franchise.

[@super_happy_alien509]

Delta Flyer from Star Trek would wipe the floor with them all.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

It’s more of in the category with the Falcon or the Roci than a fighter though

[@super_happy_alien509]

@@GiantFreakinRobot in star trek Delta Flyer and shuttles are used as Fighter defence. even that they have muti use roles in mind combat systems make big part of it

[@larrybremer4930]

A real space battle around a planet would be a pretty boring thing to watch using real newtonian physics, where it may take multiple orbits just to get near an enemy on the same side of a planet at the same orbital height and same orbital plane. Considering the massive absolute velocities at work the relative velocities when making intercepts are very small, Just watch an ISS docking in real time to see what I mean, where it will take a couple of hours to close the last few kilometers separating the capsule from the station. Two ships in a gunfight with each other would similarly have to get within close ranges while dealing with the weirdness of making an intercept within the sphere of influence around a planet or moon. Trying to fly towards a target would instead take you farther from it along with putting you into a very eccentric orbit. Instead you have to do things like slow down to catch up from behind (speed up). Did I say orbital mechanics are weird? This will be the case with any form of chemical propulsion. I will take some kind of huge breakthrough in power plants and engines to make gravity an insignificant factor in your flight path.

[@vincentfalvey2181]

The Hammerhead should be higher, just for the myth.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

The myth is awesome

[@vincentfalvey2181]

@@GiantFreakinRobot Yes. I remember hearing it when watching the show.

[@varelman]

No reference to the original BATTLESTAR GALACTICA series

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

No. I mean I really like it but the remake took the fighters to the next level. Some of that footage is just jaw dropping.

[@Species5008]

​@GiantFreakinRobot I hate to say it dude, but the original vipers (the REAL ones) are SO much better than the 2004 versions. Sorry,those remake vipers blow. Just like the entire remade series. Garbage

[@tailkinker1972]

Agree with your list, disagree with the order. The Ryloth Gunstar is by far and away the deadliest ship on this list, if for no other reason than its five gun turrets and two crew members.

[@rsrt6910]

I disagree. The Gunstar has a realistic ability that the rest of the space fighters (including the Starfury, don't; The Gunstar has 3D 360 degree firing arc with a dedicated gunner who operates independant of the ship movement/attitude. Meaning there is no preferred "firing position" for the Gunstar, it only has to get within weapons range. For the enemy, it means unless you can find something to hide behind (or in), then the minute you get within range of a Gunstar, regardless of if it's heading towards you, away from you or traversing across your line of sight, the Gunstar can fire all its weapons at you. This is how the US AH64 Apache Longbow operates and why this attack helicopter is so deadly.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Wait what is unrealistic about Starfury?

[@rsrt6910]

@@GiantFreakinRobot I give up, what IS unrealistic about the Starfury?

[@greyfox78569]

You know Gundams are Star Fighters. Not in theory, either that was how the creator in real life, and in story saw them. Walking was just something the concept allowed, and was a welcome after thought. But yeah I would take a GM, or a Zaku, over a Star Fury any day. Heck a Ball would be on a Star Fury's level.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

I refuse to categorize mechs as starfighters.

[@finnaticnz]

I can’t not see a familial similarity between the Gunstar and the Starfury. Did JMS of B5 ever address that?

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

I don’t see it. What are you seeing?

[@brianries4578]

Nope, the Gunstar should be #1. Dedicated gunner with a 360 x 360 firing range, independent of where the ship is going.

[@BdogFinal14]

As much as we love them, starfighters really aren’t practical. More practical and realistic would be a small PT Boat type craft.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Yeah the vast distances of space do make them pretty unlikely to work, but still fun

[@thomasrobson6370]

The gun star can kick all these others asses

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Maybe. Can it take a Starfury without using Death Blossom though?

[@thomasrobson6370]

@GiantFreakinRobot it's been a long time since I watched it. I know it can take out an entire squadron of Starfurries, but I can't remember the one-on-one scenarios

[@TheRoninkai]

It's all about the pilots, the ship is just a tool.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Red Baron in a biplane versus noob in an F-14?

[@karlvongazenberg8398]

SA-43 HAMMERHEAD 😥😥 ...

[@nickpond9337]

SURPRISE NOTHING FROM STAR TREK WONDERFULL JUST GREAT ;

[@Wolf359inc]

What would you propose to add? There aren’t that many fighters in Trek, and none of them are “realistic”.

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Trek is terrible at fighters and really should not have them at all.

[@nickpond9337]

@@GiantFreakinRobot I do not have the Right word ' s Sh ~ F ~ W , O , W ;

[@Dingus343]

I get it’s your list, but really? You rate the Xwing that low?

[@GiantFreakinRobot]

Yes, but only because it doesn't use Newtonian physics, which basically means it would get its butt kicked by every other ship on the list. But it's an amazing looking design and a lot of fun.

[@Dingus343]

@@GiantFreakinRobot it’s one of the most iconic, was pivotal in using special effects to portray space battles, was essential in some of the most memorable space battles in one of the most beloved and important sci fi series, set the standard on space fighters in fiction. My mum knows what an x-wing is. Sorry just how I feel

[@Wolf359inc]

@@Dingus343all true, but it is the least realistic craft in this list. It essentially relies on “magic” to fly. The other ships better reflect what it would be like to actually pilot a craft in the vacuum of space. Cheers,

[@andrewstrongman305]

The Gunstar? Really??? It was a shitty gimmick ship. It's ridiculous 'Death Blossom' would not only be useless, it would render the ship an easy target - not that it would matter as the pilot would be smeared all over the cockpit.

[@longtimber]

There are no X's in the Star Wars alphabet. Just say'n.

[@farmerned6]

Star wars trench run = 633 Squadron Fjord run Lucas is copycat hack

[@nickpond9337]

LUCKERLY star ~ war ' s WILL NEVER HAVE THE KNOW HOW , TO TIME TRAVEL ;

[@Wolf359inc]

A few things to mention.: . Your caps lock appears to be stuck; . Your spelling and grammar checker appears to be broken; . I’m uncertain if you mean no time travel is a good thing, or a bad thing. Regardless, travelling in time is possible in Star Wars, by use of the “World Between Worlds”. This is extremely hard to gain access to, though, so… Cheers,

[@nickpond9337]

@@Wolf359inc STAR WAR ' S I DO NOT EVEN LIKE TYPING THAT WORD w between w is that a Book or Game WHAT I Fu ~ MENT WAS PICK ANY BATTLE from Any where in s ~ w World the Empire is ALLWay ' s lossing and luckerly they can not travel Around a Star and go back and tell themself ' s HOW to win ; YES IN STAR TREK WE CAN I LOVE THAT WORD STAR TREK , any Starship from Star Trek World that Can Reach Warp 9 COULD Travel back in time and Warn Star Fleet , WHO , WHERE , WHAT , HOW , WHY , who is going to attack , where they are going to attack from , what kind of ship ' s , how many there defences ~ weapon s , and of course Fu ~ WHY even Try , I try to write how i feel ,1992 I did my G , C , S , E , Math ENGLISH and JUST manage to get a Passing Grade F ~ YOU ;

[@jeffreywitty3088]

Easily the A-Wing or TIE Interceptor/Advance, if we are talking "snub fighters".

[@emptysh0tglass]

Not having the Star Trek the defiant in the list is quite disappointing

[@WelshJASON42]

Though the Defiant is a deadly ship, the list is for Star fighters.