The decade that changed everything for lesbians ⚔️ (A deep dive into 90s lesbian media)

[@SapphicUnderground]

A note for those people commenting about the Wachowski brothers: Stop misconstruing my words; Bound is a good film but it's still very much a male product which has themes of exploitation and is adult film-esque. It stands out with it's happy ending for a lesbian couple in this period in the same way that Being John Malkovich stands out with its happy ending for a lesbian couple - another film directed by a man - and it has nothing to do with the fact that the Wachowski brothers think that performing femininity and having cosmetic surgery = being a woman. Furthermore, the Wachowski brothers stole the work of a Black woman (Sophia Stewart) for The Matrix and never credited her for it, so who knows how much of Bound is their own original work anyway.

[@EloraGP]

If the Wachowskis sisters stole the matrix from a black woman, they should be criticized for that, but two wrongs do not make a right. You don’t get to misgender someone just because they did something wrong.

[@mikaylaeager7942]

Just discovered your channel. I’ve really been craving more lesbian content creators, but I don’t play with the “take the T out of LGBT” crowd. Thanks for the movie recommendations, but I’ll be leaving now.

[@arainmorn1994]

As a bi woman I'll tell YES, thank you! I was pleasantly surprised when you called them brothers in this day and age, and I can't agree more with your comment. Stay true to your believes!

[@tgflux]

"the fact that the Wachowski brothers think that performing femininity and having cosmetic surgery = being a woman" Holy Shit, I've been wasting my time on a TERF site. Wish I'd known this *fact* (of loathsome bigotry) sooner. Unsubbing immediately, and BYE!

[@Progressunlikely]

I don't think it's possible to misconstrue continued and intentional misgendering and an exclusionary partial view of queer history. Wish you would have stated your views with your full chest in your video. It would have saved a lot of viewers some time. I feel a bit stupid and naive to have flipped over backwards extending you the benefit of the doubt. I hope one day you will feel safe enough to expand your worldview and join the full alphabet to help strengthen the true spectrum of queer solidarity.

[@suro_33Mi]

I salute you, congratulate you and kiss you. This is important history. As a 70+ lesbian, I lived through the womens movement, gay liberation, clause 28 etc, the Aids epidemic etc. These things changed and furthered our rights. Your presentation of this landscape is brilliant. Thank you.❤

[@ghju]

Many thanks to you too for opening the path for us later 👩🏻‍❤️‍👩🏼❤️✌️

[@anastasiabeaverhausen8220]

Same age as you. 71 this year. I thank the brits for those 3 special seasons of "Bad Girls" with the happy ending romance of Helen and Nikki which developed a huge following here in the states. One of my all-time favorite love stories.

[@angelaholmes8888]

I'm so glad that I was born during the 90,s I loved watching xena and buffy the vampire slayer when I was a kid

[@bipbop3121]

True for Xena and Buffy, even if you were born in the 80s, late 70s.

[@melonsodaproductions2838]

40:05 As a Swede, Show Me Love is just the biggest cult classic here and I love it really much. I guess it's better when you know the language, as it is very quotable and is a GREAT portrayal of how teenagers in small Swedish town act and think, especially in the 90s. Also, the swedish title is "Fucking Åmål" and that title alone is just more interesting than "show me love" x) I myself never really focused on the fact that there was a male director - but he's one of the biggest coming-of-age film directors here and this movie really wrote history over here. Then again, I understand how it sounds a bit weird with a male director making a lesbian film...

[@Itcouldbebunnies]

Yeah, this movie is great. I feel it really encapsulates growing up and figuring yourself out in a small town.

[@LightSpell28]

i love it too and im a fan of moodyson in general! looking forward to his new film

[@sofiajohansson1438]

Yes thank you, I was just about to comment on this. I agree that as a Swede it probably has more meaning because it was one of the few lesbian/sapphic representations that we saw at the time, at least for my part. It's considered groundbreaking over here. I don't see the movie as exploiting lesbians, at least not as much as a lot of English/American movies. Maybe because the actors were actual teenagers and it was more about their relationship and their struggles as teenagers than making exploiting scenes. Sure, the movie has it's flaws, yes it was directed by a man and therefor has 'the male gaze', and watching it nowadays there are definitely cringe worthy scenes. But it still tells a credible story about growing up in a small town in the 90s and it has meant a lot for queer young people in Sweden.

[@bipbop3121]

I'm American and I was kind of surprised at the flack she was giving this. Obviously, as a foreign film, it wasn't that easy to see. I knew nothing about who made it. All I had was viewing the film. I preferred F*king Amal to All Over Me, as much as musician Keisha was adorable. I watched this movie more than once, but I don't recall the adult male lens. It felt more hopeful than other teen lesbians with dudes in the way and unhappy endings. What I recall is the actresses had the gazing into each other eyes things down, good chemistry and it was hopeful. It was definitely in the short list of films worth watching. I'm less sensitive to lesbian exploitation, but that just wasn't my take away. It's been a while since I've seen it. I don't want a no build up, badly written explicit waste like some het rep (which in the name of equality, I forget what it was , but there's had been a lesbian couple like that in film, which I mean at least it wasn't a double standard in that series 🤣.) I'll definitely take a little exploitation over fridged or hair brushing, , you know.

[@redlady935]

As a 90s girl...I approve hugely of this vid

[@stefoehmen]

I didn't know I was queer as a kid, but I was heavily invested in the shows xena and btvs for some reason when I watched them lol

[@amandamarinovich6010]

My dog is named after Idgie from Fried Green Tomatoes. That is a truly wonderful film imo

[@Mandyb05]

Thinking about me as a kid sneaking downstairs when I knew Go Fish would be playing and heard from someone it was a lesbian film, at the time I had to pretend to be disgusted. I watched the entire movie that night until the last scene. The first kiss changed me. I think it was a school night and I woke up so tired the next day. 😂

[@vesuvanprincess]

I just had to point out that the reason Bound felt different from other 'male' directed films on your list is that the Wakowski siblings are now better known as sisters than brothers.

[@blurrble5]

Great video! I can tell a lot of work was put into this one.

[@angelaholmes8888]

But I'm a cheerleader is one of my first lesbian film that I watched I love that movie ❤❤

[@Void-Realm]

Same! Well one of the first once I truly knew I was gay. Film wise the first was Imagine Me and You because my cousins accidentally bought it thinking it was a straight romcom. Watching it together was awkward for me as I wasn't out and still connecting the dots on things. I was aware I reacted differently to women and probably came out a year or two later. Bad Girls and Xena were first TV wise. As well as the cut straightwashed version of Sailor Moon. But I'm a cheerleader was my first lesbian film though. Natasha Lyonne is an icon. That and D.E.B.S. I remember finding them through the first emerging not so legal streaming sites and also on KZbin. The picture quality wasn't great either. I wasn't out yet and the content I looked at really helped in that in between for sure.

[@DavidJHunter-xj3tt]

Great episode! As a bisexual boy, I remember the lesbian media being hugely impactful to me. Being 10 in 1995 and figuring myself out towards the end of the 90s, as a tomgirl I was heavily into Grunge/Riot Grrrl/Post-Grunge music and artists like Sarah McLachlan, Alanis, etc. while consuming shows such as Roseanne, Sailor Moon, Xena, and Buffy. In a lot of ways, the media helped "normalize" alternative sexuality to me as a kid and pre-teen in the face of guarded/negative real-world issues towards the subject.

[@Sierrahtl]

Your best serious work in a long time. I’m super glad I watched every minute.

[@ghju]

Born in 81, the 90s and early aughts were obviously defining times for me. As a teen, to a young adult, as a female and obviously, as a lesbian trying to make peace with my orientation while going through comphet and being terrified of coming out. Media representation, like pretty much everyone else in the closet at the time, was truly that breathe of oxygen, that rush of excitement and the hope that "I'll be happily gay too one day". Even films that weren't exactly targeting my profile (say an older, racially different pairing for example) felt like I was being seen and allowed to have a presence in stories also. At first I was going to say "where is Willow 🥺" but although Tara was technically introduced in the 90s (at the very end of it, december of 99) they were a staple of the early 2000s. Can't wait to see you touch upon this era, with Buffy, TLW, QAF, Sugar Rush, South of Nowhere etc, all the gay culling tropes, family storylines and the emergence of online communities around this type of media and lesbianism in general. 2000-2015 is probably my fave period. So much has changed. Good and bad. But one thing I miss big time is the genuine fun and excitement around episodes/film releases, watch parties and a feeling of belonging. Really enjoyed this longer and more developed format 😊

[@one1oneisme]

Thank you for this huge video lol. Looking forward to more such long video essay type from you

[@ingridholm985]

Wow, In the 70's and 80's we have to hide in the bars always fearing that the bar was not raid. In the 90's I can remember the lines of women in the theaters that offer those films in Chicago, it was refreshing to see part of our world in the big screen. The issue of Helen Degeneres in Time was read by all of us and nobody missed the weekly episode of Xena warrior princess. Now is much easier for a lesbian to come out, but it is always good to have our history present. Thank you very much for bringing our history back. Your friend in Key West Ingrid Holm

[@soulfoodie1]

This is an absolutely excellent overview of this key period

[@Mtnsunshine]

Thank you for making this video.🙏 I have to leave for work now 😟 but I really look forward to watching it when I return. You have already provided a bright spot to the day. Much appreciated 🥰💐

[@kanikadean4644]

The bc era....lesbian gold ❤

[@AerinMoriarty]

Thanks so much for doing a deep dive into this. I think there were a lot of things, both good and bad that came from growing up in the 90s. I got to see Ellen, yes... but BOTH sides of it, including how much her career suffered from it. It certainly impacted a lot of my deep rooted internalized homophobia, and lead to me desperately trying to cling to this idea I was bi.

[@Aleera616]

Great video! I was born in the 90s so my teens and my coming out happened in the early 2000s. I consumed all lesbian media I could get my hands on and a huge portion of that was of course from the 90s. "Show me love" was an amazing movie. I also loved "Kommt Mausi raus" which is a german movie and one of the sweetest coming out stories ever. It was a weird time, I was heavily bullied and even physically assaulted for my same sex attraction, my lesbian teacher had to hide her sexuality... but we still had this sense of optimism that things would get better someday. And things definitely got better but considering how overly progressive this current decade pretends to be, there is still a lot of work to do. It's frustrating that same sex marriage is finally allowed in my country but lesbian couples with kids still struggle to get the non-biological mom recognized as a parent (while this is entirely possible with a male partner who isn't the biological father). There is still lots of homophobia from the right and many homophobes who were at the center of the political spectrum in the 90s (when homophobia was a common everyday thing) have since remarketed their homophobia as "woke" and part of liberal gender theory. As a teen my only refuge were groups for homosexual and bisexual people, now many of these spaces feel hostile. I think we need to recognize the huge things that were already achieved while still being aware of what we still have to fight for. Strangely, I am less optimistic now but maybe that's an age thing. Seeing this video was definitely encouraging and reminded me that there is so much worth fighting for and that it's always worth it to keep fighting.

[@Jamakaya1]

The "Cicely" episode of the quirky "Northern Exposure" series aired on US TV in 1992. About the lesbian Founding Mothers of the Alaskan frontier town of Cicely circa 1900. Credible performance by Jo Anderson as the butch Roslyn, which was rare. Both Roslyn and Cicely are depicted as devoted to each other and heroic figures. A lot of dry humor as the show's cast doubles as their ancestors in the 1900 segments. Doesn't meet all the demands we'd have today but it was a step forward at the time.

[@cateblanchettfan8592]

I love the Canadian When Night is Falling from 1995

[@Itcouldbebunnies]

I'm surprised it was missing from this video, it's one of my favourites. Then again, she's never posted a review for it either so...maybe she hasn't watched it yet?🤔

[@cateblanchettfan8592]

@@Itcouldbebunnies It definitely deserves a review. I first watched it in the late 2000s and was impressed that it was from the 90s. It's one of my favorites too.

[@barbaraann7664]

Great video! Claire of the Moon and Antonia’s Line were also a couple of good films (especially Antonia’s Line) that featured lesbian representation in the 90s.

[@Jamakaya1]

"Antonia's Line" is brilliant, directed by a woman and completely women-centered. Won the Oscar for Best Foreign Film that year. Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZ-UgGCpgMqWmqMsi=CglCWxiY2Nl6masS

[@victoriaL_yt93]

Huge oversight, a mind boggling one really, to not mention the fact that the Wachowskis in time came out as transgender women, seeing as it rather recontextualises the representation and filming practices of Bound

[@archbud2334]

Another British show of 90s emmerdale with Zoe Tate as a lesbian vet.

[@taylor_aka_tbabz]

“High art” will always be a favorite for me!

[@anaihilator]

Mine too, and I'm shocked she didn't even mention it

[@angelaholmes8888]

I really liked bad girls I watched it when I was a teenager

[@emeliejohansson85]

As someone who was in the same age as the characters in Show Me Love when it came out it was the best thing I had ever seen. I realize it is not the perfect representation of being a young lesbian but it does show exactly how it could be for a young girl in a small Swedish town.

[@janakrcmarova6586]

Great episode, thank you very much :). I was teen in the 90s. And because there was democratic revolution in my country in 1989, I had access to internet at the university in the 90s. I saw almost everything you speak of. Most iconic was Xena, Sailor Moon, Utena, Buffy, Queer as Folk (US) and movies (1. Desert Hearts, 2. The Incredibly True Adventure of Two Girls in Love, 3) Fried Green Tomatoes, 4) Bound and so on). And when I found The L Word I was in Haven. It was so much as our group of lesbians in Prague at that time. And if I watch TV today so much has changed. So many TV series with great lesbian characters (Lost Girl, Legends of Tommorow, The Vigil, Gentleman Jack, Station 19 and many more. I am so happy for future. And because I am a big trekkie I need to mention, that in two ST series now are two lesbian couples and part of one of those pairs is Seven - finaly ;). Sorry for long post.

[@gumyumgirl]

Regarding Section 28, there is a really good movie called Blue Jean about a lesbian teacher trying to figure out her life amidst the changing social moods.

[@tgflux]

While I can see why you might leave Willow&Tara for an Aughts video, for the record, "Hush" (the debut of the 'ship) squeaked into the 90s on 14 December, 1999. [Of course, some people would consider the Year 2000 to be part of the 90s too, but that's a whole different discussion!] That Willow would, ahem, Turn Gay, was heavily hinted at the previous season of BTVS, "Doppelgangland", 23 February 1999.

[@marjorieneyrolles3644]

It would be so great if you did a video on Lizzie Borden's movie Born in flames, its not very famous unfortunately but so well written and intersectionnal !! Thanks for your work on this channel, its always sooooo interesting❤ love from France

[@elizbeeb]

Absolutely loved watching this. THANK YOU. now I’m really hoping you’ll review Bottoms soon ❤️🩷🧡

[@nyxthirteen4277]

You gotta watch Born In Flames (1983). Thanks for your content, love your channel!

[@pumpkinspicedfaerie6679]

It would be really cool to see other videos about LGBTQ+ media in other decades 😊

[@kayecantlay6974]

Zena was everything ❤

[@jp3813]

*Xena

[@smokie33]

Thank you for making this video. I liked especially you gave some time to 'go fish' movie. Normally I don't hear it being mentioned anywhere.

[@panama_scroll]

I literally grew up watching XWP :D I am so happy it was airing in my country at a time and was not censored...because obviously most didn't see what I saw (or did they?). It was basically a representation of strong women I could look up to, main characters. And then there was more to it, that kept me even more glued to the screen every weekend. :)

[@ripwednesdayadams]

buffy was my queer awakening lol. after discovering that show in middle school, i obsessively pirated all the lesbian movies i could find- bound, the incredibly true adventure of two girls in love, lost and delirious, if these walls could talk 2 (chloe omg) and of course the l word. my mom walked in on me watching an episode of the l word and that’s how she found out i was queer. 😩

[@genesis631]

34:44 🤣 oddly specific yet relatable.

[@leeharvey8544]

Nicole Conn’s ‘Claire of The Moon’? 😁 (Spoiler: The sloooooooooowest burn but at least a happy ending.) Thanks, really enjoyed this ‘deep dive’. 🙏💛

[@jul.m.2692]

I love and enjoy your research for this, but please note that the directors of Bound later came out as trans women... which makes a lot of sense as to why that movie is still so good. It is a bit cliché perhaps, but I think it was the intent, as a homage to gangster/mob and film noir movies.

[@lbalda1]

Ellen was canceled pretty quickly. I wonder what her side of the story is. She did a lot of good for the LGB community.

[@jaygrey1212]

I remember it so well, it was huge and we all owe her a debt of gratitude for what she did, she took a huge risk. A vid from a year ago on the 25th anniversary which was on my birthday, btw, best present I could have gotten. :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/p37Lioqjm8injpY

[@bipbop3121]

It feels very much like being a lesbian didn't help. For some of the stuff, it isn't unusual in the industry at all and plenty of men, as guilty escaped notice. Honestly, I'm not even sure how what Ellen Degeneres not giving the either a PR perfect nor desired public response of guilty until proven innocent, makes her any worse than proven creeps that Meryl Streep, for example, publicly supported. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but Johnny Depp didn't exonerate himself in my eyes and the way some of the actresses supporting him disgust me. For the more wild libel style accusations, she's certainly not faced any actual investigation or charges, so it reads like enemies or haters taking advantage. Makes sense why fight at that point, which will just encourage worse, just retire and continue living well.

[@amberburch152]

*LGBT

[@Sportymouse1]

Well researched. Fried Green Tomatoes was a good one. Xena and Gabriel will always rock.

[@claerevilla]

Being a lesbian in my twenties in London was the BEST! Best place to be, beautiful women and so many places to go to, whichever tribe you belonged to, you found your tribe.

[@babaganoush1775]

Great work! Also Boys On The Side(1995). Interracial lesbian representation.

[@kayecantlay6974]

PBS Masterpiece 🎭 Portrait of a Marriage 1987-2000? Can't remember🤣

[@Jamakaya1]

Janet McTeer in all her imperious glory!

[@joytotheworld9255]

Saw for my Queer Literature class. AMAZING!!!

[@maisderien]

Another British tv show from the 90s that had lesbian representation is "Band of Gold" (1995-1997). It's about four former sex workers trying to build new lives for themselves after having been released from jail. The lesbian storyline runs through all of season 2 and I'm sure there were lesbians involved in the writing, as it's quite nuanced, the two queer characters are fully fleshed and their relationship - though it ends rather tragically - is shown as something positive among the precariousness and traumas that define other parts of their lives. It really feels like "Bad Girls" in that respect: the fact that these shows focused on a "deviant" and already otherized section of the population whom the audience was not expected to identify with (sex workers, prison inmates) opened a space for (queer) writers to explore queerness rather freely. After all, these shows could not be said to endorse crime or sex work, so they could not be assumed to endorse homosexuality, right? I mean, that's how I imagine the writers got away with it. Also, playing the two queers in question are a young Lena Headey and even younger Samantha Morton, both at the very beginning of their carreer. And they're so good! (it was apparently Samantha Morton's big break) Couldn't find a clip; but here is a fanvid that shows a lot of their relationship: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn3InIqahKaqadk At least some of the episodes of season 2 are on YT (maybe all of them, I haven't checked) kzbin.info/www/bejne/raS7fWRqjtaoZpI

[@dragonfox2.058]

WOW! Great content, Tessa ♠💜💜

[@rebekafermino5256]

Great video!

[@bilong92]

comment for the algorithm

[@Sierrahtl]

Yes. It needs more

[@Victori.A1]

Ellen👑

[@dragonfox2.058]

She's a hero

[@ivonnesandate7647]

Wow excelente recopilacion ,grandes momentos icónicos y escenas inolvidables que cambiaron nuestras vidas!

[@swfrances]

Thanks, this was very interesting!

[@anastasiabeaverhausen8220]

The joke was..."it's Sweeps, ladies, pucker up." This is an actual quote from an entertainment news article chronicling the practice at the time of including a girl on girl kiss to goose the ratings. "Sweeps" week is when networks tried to attract as large an audience as possible in order to set ad rates with the advertisers. ETA: I'd have to check the air date, but an earlier girl on girl kiss strictly (more or less) for comedic purposes was on "Laverne & Shirley," believe it or not. The series ran for a long time, beginning in the '70s, but still pretty sure this would have pre-dated the kiss on "21 Jump St." The L&S ep. was one where Laverne has to land a plane after the pilot has been knocked out due to some slapstick shenanigans and Shirley, becoming theatrical about their possible demise, suddenly grabs L and plants a big old smooch smack right on her lips to which L replies, "We'll have to talk about that later, Shirl."

[@grimma6425]

Sister My Sister and Heavenly Creatures are two of my favourite movies… Maybe I have a type 😃.

[@jessagatta]

❤great video, thanks!

[@francescahw69]

Lovelly intresting video cant whait for part 2 saludos de Chile

[@ivonnesandate7647]

Excelente trabajo!en México por esos años pasaron en tv abierta LOS PEECADOS DE INES HINOJOSA

[@TeeSpicerReacts]

Wait...I don't know if anyone said BUT how could you do anything about the 90s and not mention Buffy The Vampire Slayer?!

[@tgflux]

"Wachowski brothers"??? SURELY you can't leave that there! [As I trust everyone here knows, they later BOTH transitioned to women. I think lesbians? I wouldn't swear to the latter though.]

[@thescriptessa1336]

When Night is Falling (1995).

[@tgflux]

Xena and Gabrielle got married?! When? I must have missed that episode...

[@jp3813]

I think it was an episode where they were reincarnated in the modern day, but Lucy was playing Joxer and Ted was playing Xena.

[@anaihilator]

How in the world did she skip High Art!?!?!?!?!?

[@giovahnnaziegler7443]

How did we skip Willow and Tara (Buffy the Vampire Slayer), here? :,( Their Kiss in "The Body" was a breakthrough! But, before that, their whole story and the way the producers had to find a "way around" to show their relationship, since the network didn't allow them to kiss or anything, was legendary, really.

[@tgflux]

14 December 1999 is when W&G began. I assume SU will cover that in an Aughts video.

[@renatateofilo9887]

I saw all that. I was a teenager.

[@jp3813]

Didn't Sailor Uranus & Sailor Neptune both die?

[@MistyMaize]

Better rep than today now everyone just want to be teenagers

[@carmeliaoquinn2441]

Thankyou for sharing this. ❤ I LOVED Bad Girls. I fell in love with Nikki. She is so sexy & beautiful.

[@anastasiabeaverhausen8220]

The influence of Xena as an epic ultra romantic and passionate love story can not be overestimated. We were robbed of a 7th season. The show suffered when the Herc production team took over in season 5 (a largely lost and wasted season after the extraordinary brilliance of its opener "Fallen Angel") and seemed intent on using every unfilmed leftover buddy-buddy Herc script barely retailored to fit X&G and also to downplay the precious Subtext. Those producers were fired and Season 6 was better, but the damage had been done and the show ended very sadly. Tragically, in fact. The narration text of the video says they "even got married"...um...I don't think so, unless my memory has gotten 'that' bloody poor. Not on the series. Yes, they were certainly married in all of the wonderful 'uber' and Subtext fanfic which was main text such as that of Melissa Good--who also, discovered online by her XWP fanfic novels, wrote episodes of the actual series itself. One of which ("Last Chance") was supposed to be an actual wedding of the poetess Sappho and her lover played as doubles by Lucy and Renee, a musical episode which never got made because of the lame excuse that they couldn't get the rights to the songs they wanted to use. But that seemed to have morphed into a totally different ep. with pop songs. Suspiciously, they had no problems getting those song rights, even to the Beatles tune "We Can Work it Out." Alas, I'm sure it was really vetoed by the studio once again.

[@ladymariam7128]

Xena was the best bisexual icon I ever seen, as Lucky Lawless said and confirmed [ Now it wasn't just that Xena was bisexual and kinda liked her gal pal and they kind of fooled around sometimes, it was 'Nope, they're married ] Other bisexual characters these aren’t as deep as her in my opinion, sure there are some good but it so much, Xena was and still is the top.

[@tyese3394]

Erik said ......👻👻👻👻👻👻👻👻👻 Lady RULE THE WORLDS

[@emilyrln]

As someone who has not yet received my promised "instant disappointment," I demand a refund for my subscription 😂

[@tinabc4694]

high art???

[@theloveyouneedisgentle]

Thanks

[@SapphicUnderground]

Thank you :)

[@theadventuresofzoomandbettie]

re: bound. the Wachowskis going on to both becoming trans women later in life, goes some way into explaining how as male (presenting, at the time) directors had a better vision for female characters. I LOL'd at the comments "sometimes I read them, sometimes I dont" 🎵😂

[@LightSpell28]

idk, i feel like it was way more objectifying in places than Show Me Love. but it was a long time since i saw it tho

[@ghju]

Still male. They just changed looks, not reorganized their DNA. Let's not praise dudes doing womanface writing lesbians just because they went dress go spinny and demand new pronouns. They never were and never will be women, let alone lesbians nor understand what it feels to be one and to love another.

[@bastetowl3258]

nah, they are just males with a p0rn fetish. they said it themselves that porn turned them trans. lesbians are same sex attracted women. that's why gay marriage was banned bc it was same sex marriage. meanwhile same gender identity couples can still get married in conservative countries. a bepenised person can't be a lesbian

[@EveryonesACryptid]

I was enjoying this video a lot (was a teenager in the 90s so I have extremely vivid memories of everything you mentioned since, as a queer woman, I was always searching for WLW media wherever I could.) However, it was extremely disappointing to see you misgendering the Wachowski sisters. Whether or not this was an "accident" on your part, I don't know. But I did find it odd since you seem well-versed on general pop culture (in addition to the Wachowskis' fame). 😐

[@rh3aa996]

Wonderful video although an important correction, the Wachowskis, directors of bound and the matrix are both queer trans women.

[@malebovinemanure]

Or, men that just want to f*ck lesbians and get angry when lesbians say NO.

[@kibblemom]

I've enjoyed the videos of yours that I've watched and appreciate the info on film and media history. An obscure film you might find interesting is "The Sticky Fingers of Time", a shoestring-budget SF production featuring time-traveling lesbians. That being said, I'm very disappointed to see your transphobic comments about the Wachowskis. Do better! I will be unsubbing ASAP.

[@effrosynikarampasi7934]

The Wachowski SISTERS!!! Wtf man 34:54

[@ferment4life]

35:29 thank you - was really enjoying this & then just got totally pulled out when they called the Wachowskis men!?! Can’t watch anymore now 😔

[@effrosynikarampasi7934]

@@ferment4life yeah that's exactly how I felt too

[@kayla8402]

yeah fun video but 10 days ago? That sets off some alarms. And judging by some of the other comments...

[@Lona818]

It might have been a slip, in the 90s they were brothers, but at the moment they are the Wachowski sisters

[@gualdimpaisgrandemestre3362]

Buen video ,excelente😘💕💕💕🌈

[@Progressunlikely]

Uhhhh.. was anticpating your comments on Bound to include the Wachowskis later coming out as transwomen but instead they were just left misgendered?! Was that intentional?

[@Progressunlikely]

Sadly, it was very intentional. This creator is not trans inclusive.

[@malebovinemanure]

@@Progressunlikely Good.

[@veanixfire8943]

The wachoskis are trans women, which might explain why bound was done so well

[@EloraGP]

Bound was written and directed by the Wachowskis who are trans women. So Bound is a film made by I’m pretty sure lesbian women. They just didn’t identify that way at the time of making the movie.

[@tatica700]

Wachowski Sisters ********!! tf it's 2023

[@soulfoodie1]

Naw Wachowski Brothers. They are not Lesbians or female

[@Hannah-mu1uj]

Are we not going to acknowledge that the Wachowskis have since come out as trans?

[@dragonfox2.058]

Do we care?

[@ghju]

Nobody gives a f.

[@maybezan8149]

♪♫♪ And then you go and spoil it all by saying something transphobic like "Wachowski brothers".

[@malebovinemanure]

Where is the lie?

[@Voyager759]

Stop using such deragotry terms like "lesbian". The correct term according to democracts and progressives is "non-man attracted to non-men" :) Jokes aside, great video!

[@dorothea.a]

wow. what an insane thing to say.

[@soulfoodie1]

​@@dorothea.ashe's being sardonic and making a point about current lesbian erasure

[@soulfoodie1]

​​@@dorothea.a you sound nice. You are most certainly an abusive man. You prove me right

[@LightSpell28]

@@dorothea.a there's a good article called "why didnt you say anything sooner? you're asking the wrong question" in huffington post from about 5 years ago that's about lesbian erasure in the book world, check that out if u want

[@dorothea.a]

I'll clarify. The issue I had with the original comment was the veiled transphobia. And also the pandering to conservatives. As a Lesbian, I really don't see the point in bellyaching about the more accurate definition of "Non-men who love non-men". It's not a set of rules that YOU MUST FOLLOW in order to be a lesbian. Nobody is being forced to date nonbinary or trans lesbians. Much of our history is in our butch/gender-non-conforming predecessors and I am extremely aware that we would be nothing without them. We are strong together. Also the mocking of progressives? Is it their first day on the planet? Why else would someone act so against their own interest?

[@iankinnell5643]

In the 90s no one i know had an issue with any form of homosexual or bi sexual hook ups i think this is mainly due to the fact no one was really shoving it down peoples throat as opposed more so to nowadays where it seems to be forced as though it's being shoved in every show often by altering much loved Characters like how they altered Velma Dinkley by making her black & I believe making Daphne a lesbian instead of creating a new original character & placing them on the show. This in my view is why alot of people speak out now

[@jp3813]

Did you not watch the video? She just covered how careers were risked and bomb threats were sent out back then due to many people always having issues w/ gay representation. Literally the same old argument of such content being shoved down viewers' throats. Amber Benson got so much hate for playing Willow Rosenberg's (who many complained was altered from being a straight woman to a lesbian) new lover. To this day, there are people who still don't believe that Xena & Gabrielle were ever a couple, claiming that their relationship is just being retconned today.

[@SapphicSara]

Ignoring that the Wachowshkis would both come out as trans and are in fact queer women who simply discovered that later feels like a big omission just referring to them as brothers here feels like a bad move.

[@soulfoodie1]

Naw it's the right thing to do. They are male and not Lesbians

[@ghju]

I think you're lost. This is not the TQ+xyz123#$& side of the "community".

[@tgflux]

@@ghju WTF is that supposed to mean?

[@ghju]

@@tgflux Well, it's supposed to mean what it says 🤷🏻‍♀️ It's quite a literal sentence, I'm sorry to see that it's still challenging for some But I'm willing to help. Which part are you struggling with? And by that I mean reading comprehension wise, not struggling with accepting that LGBs - or anyone, for that matter - can have differing opinions (and won't pledge allegiance to the gender cult).

[@oftinuvielskin9020]

The Wachowskis have both transitioned - so they are the Watchowski sisters now, not "brothers", which seems relevant to Bound's lesbianism

[@soulfoodie1]

Biological males cannot be Lesbians.

[@dragonfox2.058]

@@soulfoodie1 Thank you 👍🏼

[@soulfoodie1]

​@@dragonfox2.058you are more than welcome

[@sophiaruizuvalle2523]

Yeap, its the Wachowski Sisters

[@dragonfox2.058]

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