The Decline (and Probable Fall) of the Scientology Empire - Jim Lippard

[@joparkerbear5325]

This is the first lecture I have seen that brings all the facts together calmly and rationally. While I appreciate hearing the experience of ex-scientologists, it is nice to see it all presented by a messenger without an axe to grind, devoid of superfluous emotion. Very well done and thanks.

[@wingmanbbc]

If you watch a 1000 videos on the Cult, you may not get an answer to this; Where does an abusive sinister Cult get bottomless buckets of cash? The answer may be right under your nose.

[@Degausser09]

This is the longest I've watched a PowerPoint presentation and not drifted off. Very well done.

[@JohnnyCNote]

A drummer in my band back in the 80's had a sister in COS and she was always trying to entice us to join by saying things like it could be our "big break", etc. I was very adamantly opposed to the whole idea, even if I wasn't nearly as informed about the cult as I am now. I'd rather get nowhere at all than get involved with these evil cultists!

[@lanabanana68]

well done for not succumbing to her words;bet you're glad now :)

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

It very well could have been a 'big break' but you would have sold your soul in return and trapped .

[@knowsmebyname]

It's always a treat to hear a well researched, and delivered, presentation on virtually any subject. Good job Mr Lippard.

[@jaywseyferth]

One of the most detailed explanations of Scientology that I have heard! Very insightful. Thanks for your work, Mr. Lippard!

[@dmathieu5]

I appreciated the way this man has done research and give real facts. Scientology...Shame on you

[@yomenow2]

Excellent, concise information and well presented. Thank you Jim for making this available.

[@dixieroman]

Much appreciated! I commend you for helping to get the message out about this cult. The more people who are educated about what Scientology really is, the more we can combat it.

[@rudedoodle]

One of the best Scientology lectures I've seen on here. Required viewing, really well explained.

[@yourcompassioncorner]

I was at a trade show building in Kansas City in the mid-90's, and there was a Scientology booth set up. One of the Scientologists approached me and tried to recruit me. I said that I wasn't interested. He tried again, asking me, "What it is you have a hard time doing?" To which I replied, "I have a hard time saying no to people." He said, "Well, we can help you with that." And again he tried to recruit me. To which I replied, "No." And then I said, "Wow! Scientology really does work! I'm cured!" And I walked off.. Good times with Scientologists... Good times. Cults are so dangerous. I ended up in a Christian cult called Set Free Ministries, and it did a number on me. I have so much compassion for people who have been through it.

[@maries4747]

Good one Jenny Mac LOL

[@ebayguy38]

I feel for you. One has to be careful with Christianity too not just scientology etc.. I'm a Christian but so many churches today really are cults with zero awareness that that's in fact what they are. The Christian church messed wth me too. I'm almost embarrassed to admit it but it's true. Anyhow, I wish you the best.

[@paulkieffer1189]

Jenny Mac hillarious!! I like it

[@jasonmagel2069]

Jenny , since you are sharing, what is it that Set Free Ministries offered that you felt it wasn't just another sham like Scientology.?

[@yourcompassioncorner]

​@@jasonmagel2069 Wow. Such a simple, yet good question, but the answer I am afraid, is not. So what did I think they would OFFER that would set them apart from a sham organization? I THOUGHT they would teach me HOW to care for the poor, the broken, the addicted.... I went to comfort a girl on my 2nd day. She was having withdrawals, and I put my hand on her back and just wanted to sit with her as she went through it. I was promptly condemned and made to go sit outside. Apparently comforting people was a no no. And by my second week, I was disenchanted and suicidal. I was a prisoner and I had nowhere to go. I had to stay and suck it up because I finally realized the real reason I was there was to bear witness to what they did and who they really were, and also, to NEVER run a discipleship program like they did. But , I went to Set Free to heal from extremely violent and terrifying spiritual abuse. I thought to myself, "I will be in the word all day for 3 months, with no other responsibilities. Surely I will be healed from the horrors I have experienced." Also, I thought they would help teach me spiritual disciplines, like praying and studying the word of God. Those are the reasons I went. I mean, aren't these the things you learn in a discipleship program? I couldn't have been more mislead and deceived by those touting it as a miracle. It would end up becoming my ground zero. The place where my faith disintegrated and fell, like a huge tower that had already been hit by two planes prior to my arrival. I believe that Christianity should first and foremost be demonstrated through our actions and how we care for and nurture others. I have no interest in cramming the bible down the throat of a broken person. Don't get me wrong. Certainly in a program like that it is expected that you would introduce them to the word of God. But not under a law which reaps punishment if not followed precisely. I thought I would learn how to demonstrate the love of Christ through my actions, in order to help and comfort others. Boy, was I wrong. The bible says in Matthew 5:3, "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven." It does NOT say, "Blessed are the poor in sprit, for they will be condemned, cut down, humiliated, and treated like a slave for the Set Free program." But, my dear Jason, that is what they did. They used the word of God to slice you and dice you, and by the time I left after just three months, I have found it almost impossible to sit and read scripture. I prayed for years, trying to understand why I didn't love the word of God when I had attended every bible study I could find, and was caring for the homeless in my home and going to church like 5 times a week. Finally, the answer came into my heart, but without judgment. Just in the form of knowledge. "They planted a seed of hatred for the Word of God in your heart." I was deeply saddened by this. I wanted to love the word so much. And I had no idea that while I was there, THAT is what they were doing. Also, I developed agoraphobia that I still struggle with today and I finally understood where I got that. From Set Free. You see, they FORCED you to sit outside, in the Cabazon desert, in January, February, ALL FRIGGIN DAY... "Programming," Going outside felt like going into a prison cell. You weren't allowed in the house unless you had to go to the bathroom. That was a nightmare in itself. You weren't allowed to flush your toilet paper down the toilet. All USED TP went into a 5 gallon bucket, which you had to empty each day in an open air garbage receptacle outside. They didn't even use bags in the buckets, so if the wind was blowing, TP covered in waste would fly all over the place. Lovely, right? I prayed for years trying to understand why I had developed agoraphobia. Finally, the answer came to me in the form of the memory of what it was like to be at Set Free, being FORCED under some law, to stay outside all day. I couldn't get near the front door without getting dizzy and having a panic attack. I couldn't even see a sunrise for years without getting sick to my stomach, because it was at sunrise when you realized your miserable fate, and then had to live with that the whole day. If you want to know more about how they operate, then go here: (They are the Introductory chapter.) www.reveal.org/development/Churches_that_Abuse.pdf This was written by a cult expert. While he outlines the program under different leadership than what I had, the model was still the same. It operated the same. And leadership was just as abusive. If I were to tell you the horrors I bore witness to, you would not believe me. I do not exaggerate, either. I had wanted to be in ministry since I was three. I adored the Lord. I knew Who He was, but I didn't know scripture. I thought it was just a guide book. I didn't know it had the power to actually transform us and lead us to salvation and help us fight our spiritual battles and heal us. I went to Set Free to learn more about that aspect and develop those disciplines. Over the years I had developed very deep empathy and compassion for people, with a strong desire to serve the church and individuals so they wouldn't have to carry their cross alone. I have been willing many times and have many times, taken a blow meant for other people. That is part of loving like Christ. But Set Free spiritually aborts you. They had ZERO use for me. I met people who had been in the program for YEARS, with no lives of their own. Waking up, volunteering at their thrift store for NO PAY, going back to their designated house, eating, studying, showering, going to bed, just to wake up and do it all over again. They had no value to leadership or the program other than that. And they lived like that day in and day out. For years. Some of the most wonderful people I met came from the streets and prisons, and they were treated like crap. I came from corporate america, and would have been able to teach them so many wonderful skills for getting jobs down the road. But in the end, I got kicked out because I refused to recite their "Statement of Faith." Every time I tried to, I felt sick, like I was lying, because it wasn't a statement of faith. It was a vow to God, but also, it was nothing more than rambling, verbal vomit. But they placed it under the "Statement of Faith, " banner. And it was a vow I couldn't make because you can't make a vow to God lightly. It didn't come from my heart or my desires. And even though I explained my reasons to them, they still kicked me out. I wasn't a trouble maker. I still have a fear that I will end up back there. I still experience triggers from being there. I will give them credit where credit is due. They taught us to memorize "The Armor of God," and the pastor was a gentle teacher. However, that is the only positive thing I can say about it. Or him. After I left, strangers would come up to me and pour out their stories of horror from Set Free and what happened to them at the program. People I had never met. They just saw me and would tell me everything that was grieving them. I can't even begin to tell you the number of people I met with horror stories. I hope I have answered your question. And I apologize for prattling. It just isn't something you can nutshell.

[@msbookercat]

I almost got caught up in this idiocy in the early '80s through friends on the fringes of the Hollywood music and acting scene. It was one of the weirder experiences in a long life of weirdnesses (haha), It left a bad taste, but fortunately when they found out that I really didn't have any money, they left me alone. I'm one of the lucky ones.

[@Merrida100]

Me too! I ran with that same crowd and had a boss who tried to recruit me.

[@emaj4947]

That fcuk ya didt

[@lanabanana68]

yes,they certainly favour the rich but never be complacent with this mob;they will still want to recruit you if they can,possibly hoping you may know someone less poor or just spread the word for them and even possibly use you as a recruiter.I always saw through them,it never attracted me but i can see why a lot do like it;who doesn't love the sound of a war-free,drug-free,crime and insanity-free world? it's very seductive and that is precisely why they are so evil.I have satisfied my own mind that they are not even as sincere in their fight against psychiatry as i thought,so they are not worthy of respect at all in my eyes.

[@pastorchip1286]

Best summary I've seen. Lots of facts with a sprinkle of snark. Good job.

[@kurtilein3]

This is a really very good talk, it is well-researched and well-organized. Thanks for sharing this, and thanks to Jim Lippard for caring enough to compile all this information! Scientology surely hates this.

[@asandiegoguy]

Easy to spot posts from Scientologists here -- just look for the ones that attack poke fun at Jim and do not address the content. Classic! I guess it's all they can do since much of what he presented is indefensible.

[@frankbutcher5406]

look mate 75 million years ago there was a war and the bodys of one side were put into volcanoes and had h bombs dropped on them and now these spirits live in us what cant i defend?

[@scottsimon3034]

What absolute horse shit that whole story about volcanoes is. That’s not doctrine that’s god awful science fiction. Written by a hack of a writer. My dog can write better sci-fi and he doesn’t understand the human language and doesn’t read.

[@PartiallyAgonized]

This whole channel is so fucking cool. I don't know much about this organization but seemingly right up my alley. Tons of content and so little time.

[@tonimarieantonucci7348]

The lisa pcpherson story is by far one of the saddest tragedies to occur bc of scientology! Its such a shame that this disgusting cult didn't receive the proper punishment for this devastating tragedy!

[@lanabanana68]

they're pretty untouchable due to their wealth and tactics which leave many very afraid of them.

[@gerardlefrancois4746]

We are each other, there is no separation. Separation is an illusion of the ego.

[@ddrpdrp887]

Best commentary I have seen so far providing a great overview of the Cult of $cientology.

[@elizdonovan5650]

D Drpdrp I like how you have the S in Scientology substituted by the dollar sign. Very appropriate. 🌲🌝☘️

[@chrisbaranet1601]

This is a good lecture. He is giving a lot of data. He is very succinct,and speaks very clearly. I like the fact the he's not giving a lot of emotion. He's just telling you facts.

[@sisterpacifica]

This is a fabulous presentation. Thank you!!!

[@take1994]

If you are put off or distracted by the presenter’s constant umms and ahhhs, stick with watching, I was about to stop the video 10 minutes in but I’m glad I stayed with it. He really has presented every possible piece of information in this exceptional presentation.

[@George50809]

Good job, Jim.

[@jcroth2644]

Just newly subbed. Thanks for your information. You've collected it in a way people can understand. This subject is so complex!

[@dannyscoggin]

I'm glad people are catching on. U can see that by the low numbers (25,000) of members in the US

[@thecatsman]

Unfortunately Danny people are easily hooked by the promise of personal gain (at anyone's expense - it doesn't matter). Personally I take comfort from the fact that greed is the motive behind joining the cult, and the cult exists to fleece them entirely! There is a beauty in this symmetry that does not exist in god-based religions. If future generations become more aware of what lies actually are,perhaps the race will survive.

[@alex43592]

Hey i am a ex scientologist and find your talk good researched and informative i like how you start at the beginning the cult and moved to the now and covering all this events. it is unbelievable how little I knew when I was in the church.thanks:) p.s there is one mistake ! They do have a "sunday service"

[@Jekku1987]

Excellent presentation, very informative. I show it to as many people as I can.

[@kultus]

Big thanks for this one! Having made good use of Jim Lippard's many writings for years now, it's nice to get to see and hear him.

[@PlntPeace]

Really no difference between Hubbard and Joseph Smith.

[@Hanna5859]

well, at least one of them PRETEND to believe in God.

[@splibb]

You are correct, the similarities of mormons and Scientology is amazing.

[@davidsarif2481]

Shoni Raymond Why you make fun of religin?

[@splibb]

Shoni Raymond Are you a mormon?

[@davidsarif2481]

splibb I'm not a Mormon, but I am a homosexualist.

[@1991jdclark]

Excellent lecture. Great break down of timeline and information.

[@Mrmadddgear]

This is a stunning presentation, thank you Jim.

[@lanabanana68]

@Jennifer Aliff yeah exactly.There are really only two possibilities surely; dead or holed up somewhere against her will.

[@TheMotz55]

This is a very astute presentation on Scientology. What surprises me is how Scientology, despite its collapsing empire, continues to buy real estate. Even more...why the IRS still allows this org (which reminds me of a bad timeshare deal) to remain tax exempt?

[@prterrell]

+TheMotz55 The CoS filed something like 10,000 lawsuits against the IRS. In the face of that, the IRS gave up and declared them a religion and thus tax exempt.

[@TheMotz55]

I know, but they don't have the influence they had earlier. More people understand Scientology now. The IRS would have public support and could defend themselves more effectively now.

[@susanfudge1737]

Despite being exposed multiple times, they appear to be going strong.

[@RichardFitzpatrick]

Never underestimate human stupidity

[@mrtambourineman6107]

Ricky Fitzpatrick or greed...

[@lanabanana68]

indeed,but to be fair they are pretty well trained at duping people and sucking them in using age-old psychological tricks.Take someone with no family,disenfranchised,feeling misunderstood,find out their particular issue and then work on that...psychology 101;using your name a lot,making you feel accepted,liked,telling you they can help you overcome these issues,you're a powerful being (of course we all are,who doesn't know this?),etc etc and then after that it's all about seducing you with tales of the wealth you can live in,the freedom that will bring to your life.....this is all very powerful so no wonder even intelligent people get sucked in.

[@larrynivren8139]

Never underestimate human SELFISHNESS.....

[@Martypants666]

I love Jim's presentation style. He doesn't try to be funny, he gives the facts dryily so that when the truly outrageous ones are mentioned they actually sound so absurd and ridiculous that the humour takes care of itself. I would like to see more views but it's early days yet. Well done.

[@mojo6514]

Got some really stressed tomatoes here that will be turned into Bolognese soon:D

[@OpenComments]

Scientology doesn't lure in as many crazy people as one might think. The lure of Scientology is the social aspect. Friends lure in friends, lovers lure in lovers, and when one joins, everyone is excited to have you. It's not that there's something wrong with your judgment. It's the seduction of being part of something and fitting in with a community. Having a whole group of people who believe what you believe.

[@annaleonie2731]

If the scientology organisation has so much money, why doesn't it pay its staff a liveable wage? To pay people pennies when you can afford more, it's screaming the message that it doesn't appreciate the work being performed for them.

[@yashamaga13]

Lmao. I'm not sure you understand what a cash scam is.

[@bleumotel]

Thank you Mr, Lippard for your fantastic debunking of Scientology, Every word here is a coffin nail....

[@ScrubPuppyOpinion]

Well done. This was a very good brief on the organization.

[@elizdonovan5650]

Worth watching. Good informative video with actual sources which can be accessed and independently evaluated. 🌲🌝☘️

[@adamcarter1051]

When they've settled cases out of court - do they call them a 'Miscavage' of Justice?

[@mrtambourineman6107]

Adam Carter I call him David Miscarriage! Hahaha

[@emaj4947]

Pmsl 😄😄😄😄😄 tickled me that

[@lanabanana68]

love that :D

[@The1Helleri]

*slow clap*

[@danyael777]

@@mrtambourineman6107 Good to know, i'm not alone^^

[@zadadazadada4298]

Excellent presentation!👍👍

[@dubby46]

A brilliant well spoken talk.

[@mariaarmstrong1058]

Information that every well educated adult should possess. Thank you! This is by far the best hour and thirty four minutes anyone could invest to hear the truth of the matter. You kept my interest until the end when other videos have me looking to see 'how much longer is this'?' You present facts, evidence and proof for everything you say. 👍 Well spoken, through & thought provoking content 👏👏👏 You've connected the dots for me on many gray areas and this is the best "missing link" anyone would need when looking at the church of Scientology. It completes the picture that Leah Remini's 'Aftermath' show could not fully address. She can only speak of her own life experiences. But you have done your homework. Next time, add in how you become involved in this cult to be so well versed on it. What motivates you to do this level of research? I was never sure what was what and how a person would die, from pneumonia, if they read words on paper & knew a secret. Now I know, now I get it!!! I have a much better understanding and a complete picture of how one documented liar and writer of science fiction set about to deceive people to pay for his lifestyle. The tomato picture is compelling evidence that LRH was also self deceived. IMHO, you have exceeded every other video on the topic and I feel like I just watched a TED event. It 'clearly' explains what I'm sure scientologists would like to ban from the internet. No Christian "church" has secrets they need to keep from the earth and their own parishioners. If you don't mind, I'll be linking many students of Christianity & humanity back to this one video. I am Gratefully Yours, MKA.

[@torrielandsman4625]

why would anyone want to preserve the words of a liar,thief,fiction writer?

[@vrxcld5014]

So that they can make tax free money.

[@lanabanana68]

coz he was charismatic,like all confidence tricksters,and he did have some good ideas,albeit not relly his original ideas,and a lot of what they claim to be about IS good: fighting against the drugging of children,getting people healthy,being anti-war etc. i mean,if people don't have a black or white view of it,some of it is sound ideology and i guess his followers don't know or don't believe the truth about Hubbard.It's sad that people hand their minds,money and life over to these cults but the methods they use are universal and effective.

[@lanabanana68]

@@vrxcld5014 yes,and this too. Honestly,the scientologists i've seen think of Hubbard as a GOD.

[@elizdonovan5650]

Cultish brainwashing explains the why? Being a religion gives an umbrella ☂ like protection to the most ludicrous beliefs. 🌲🌝☘️

[@yashamaga13]

Well they preserved the bible and the koran so that's nothing new.

[@alanfenick1103]

While a little dated the material gives a good overall basis for further knowledge about Scientology!

[@419Films]

"( including Atheism . A cult is a religious practice)" Atheism is the lack of belief in any gods. It says nothing, at all, about what else a person does or does not believe.How do you equate that to a cult?

[@JimLippard]

Chuck: I appreciate your detailed comments and corrections! I am probably only going to do this talk one more time, in a greatly abbreviated form (30-40 min), but I would like to write more on the subject, with particular focus on the Internet aspects that I have the most familiarity with. I'd like to dig more into Justin Petersen & the Aznarans...

[@LarsAgerbk]

I'm currently watching the sciencefiction/fantasy television series Lost. I'm 89 episodes in out of 120, so I'm really deep in. The thing is though, as much as I want to finish the series, I just find Scientology so much more fascinating...

[@pandarama67]

ok actor plant whatever you say. how much they pay you to comment on this bullshit? either that or your just another one of the shrinking group of scientology morons that grow fewer and fewer everyday. My guess is actor plant.

[@LarsAgerbk]

pandarama67 your stupidity amazes me. Seriously.

[@pandarama67]

ok not actor plant just a new member of a shrinking group of idiots

[@LarsAgerbk]

pandarama67 do you seriously believe I'm a scientologiest?

[@thecatsman]

pandarama67 'shrinking group' Panda? Please let your optimism be justified. Perhaps Lars means fascinating like scorpions and leeches are.

[@theanonwolf]

Thank you so much for doing this!

[@ladyv5655]

Hubbard may have been a Eagle Scout at age 13, which is young, but not unheard of. My brother was an Eagle Scout at 13, too, and he did not start some sci-fi "church" to scam narcissists and the gullible out of piles of money.

[@monicaharrison1993]

THANK YOU ,this is great , I learn a lot, a lot to watch for and be careful off. M

[@UnleashTheGreen]

it's 5 years later. how are we doing on that "fall of the empire" thing?

[@justanothersmith6012]

The majority of people on the planet still think it’s ridiculous & a cult .

[@larrynivren8139]

the cult has DECLINED ALOT in these 5 years.....

[@alkymistendenmark]

Extremely good presentation with so many details! Nice work Jim

[@5chr4pn3ll]

Would be great to see a follow up on this.

[@CatherineSolo]

This is a really fantastic lecture, thanks for sharing!

[@419Films]

"Nothing external to your mind can hurt or injure you in any way." I think anyone who has ever been shot might disagree with you.

[@dianadelahaye7660]

Very helful

[@bruceshark5501]

"Tomato! What are your crimes? You are out-ethics! You are now declared an SP!"

[@EarlFaulk]

Get to the Real Prime Fertilizer now (RPF)

[@Digscomics]

EarlFaulk Real Prime Fertilizer? It's almost like you're saying Scientology is a load of horse shit...

[@OlavvanGerven]

Digscomics "Scientology being a load of horse shit"? That would be in insult to the horse shit!

[@ladyv5655]

That tomato should be punished for its crimes by being sentenced to be chopped up and eaten in a sandwich!

[@IvanLendl87]

Lady V Yes - instead of being all gussied-up and used on a Caprese Salad!

[@anonysable]

Impressive, Jim. Great job.

[@Mattowarrior777]

dont really get the criticisms..i didnt notice anything about the presentation that was stuttering, ive seen college professors do a lot more stuttering..must be scientologists complaining

[@wingmanbbc]

Spot on mate.

[@kingofthings7929]

It’s probably one of the best KZbin videos on Scientology, especially about it’s internet stuff.

[@tedburrell1]

I liked this lecture. Very informative and comprehensive. Good job

[@zapfanzapfan]

The Jack Parsons (JPL-founder) connection is really interesting.

[@jasonmagel2069]

I concur ... Really adds an interesting chapter to the already far out LRH character portrayal

[@cheerfulerik]

Fantastic summary of key point, thanks!

[@HypnosisASMR]

more logically coherent talk on scientology, ever.

[@bumcheek7]

'Blown For Good' is Mark Headley's book. Tony Ortega is tearing up on his blog and dally updates - they're great - are posted daily on his Facebook page Thanks...

[@vatodad]

It's not actually a Christian cross in reference to the symbol above the Scientology signs. It is an occult symbol. Crowley's influence

[@googlegilbertlevinmars322]

Attempted to call counseling and help/abuse help lines to receive help from after defecting. Not a single soul in these departments and institutions, did not care to listen nor help. Passed off, told “well it seems you’ve done your research! Goodnight!” And hung up on. I don’t think the world wants to help other people help themselves from a messy mess.

[@teeniebeenie8774]

they gotta remove their tax exemption is it possible?

[@DG1234-h4k]

teenie beenie. Then they will crumble!

[@everythingbobbywolfe]

Trump has actually mumbled about looking into scientology and their tax exempt status. I have a feeling he's been on to their scam since the 80s

[@everythingbobbywolfe]

@Charles Mendeley hopefully not because if Trump's out, the least of our worries is scientology. We'll have child predators and George soros, Clinton's, Obama and all kinds of depravity

[@zombie231]

I just finished reading Going Clear it was really amazing how deep this stuff goes. The book is really good but I have to admit its also unsettling. What really impresses me is that how people can have such a vastly different perception of the world.

[@kingsleyzissou1120]

One should also stress one the most important crimes against humanity of LRH...being a terrible fiction author.

[@jeanjohnson1471]

Kingsley Zissou Aa

[@lanabanana68]

i haven't read his stuff so can't say but the scientology stuff is probably pretty much the same thing.

[@JimLippard]

Charese: You are correct that the Scientology definition of squirrel is someone who is "doing something entirely different" and altering Scientology, which in practice is applied to anyone in the independent Scientology movement. Thanks for making a valid criticism.

[@bryanmarchese9827]

Actually The Power of Source is amazing. I'm not a Scientologist and I whole heartedly wanna destroy them,but that is an amazing Jazz record. If you haven't heard it don't knock it. It has nothing to do with their beliefs. The drum solo is sweet. I can almost feel Xenu's 70's cop drams...Xenu! Space Cop!

[@MayimHastings]

Lmao - agree!

[@EpicSwordGuy]

"The one man in the world who never thinks he's mad is a madman" -- LRH

[@Darrylizer1]

Their headquarters in DC is beautiful. I've been there when I lived in DC when I was invited to learn about Scientology. Twas bullshit then, is bullshit now.

[@Darrylizer1]

***** I don't know about that. The Scientology headquarters in DC is in a very old and very fancy mansion on P Street just before Dupont Circle. I believe that was the founding church headquarters.

[@QueensPudding]

Excellent canter through a lot of material. Thanks.

[@MrCheatreporter]

Trying to go after South Park. Haha they sure are crazy beyond anything.

[@mr.mittensiscalmlikeabomb4434]

Spacey Tracey didn't so much take them on as hired millions of $ of lawyers and twisted the existing loopholes to show they could win. Any billionaire can get anything they want in N.america. trump.

[@IvanLendl87]

calm like a bomb (1) Spending $ to hire attorneys IS taking them (the IRS) on. It's the very definition of "taking them on". And (2) why don't you ask Bernie Madoff or Martha Stewart if being mega-rich always keeps you out of jail?

[@malex4321]

Great lecture!!!!! I agree.

[@henderson482]

My issues with Scientology are the following: (1) Pay to pray, the richer you are the "holier" thou art. (2) You only get access to what they want you to know, there is no way to see the higher level content until they deem you acceptable, I think that smart people are probably never acceptable. (3) First resort to anything is to sue, if that fails sue harder. (4) Tom Cruise........This reason is replicated in numbers (5) - (100).

[@1991jdclark]

You know what, I can not sit through another Tom Cruse movie. Year by year of finding out what he believes. More so his arrogant, stupid comments of superiority.

[@thecatsman]

Jennifer Clark and Luke. Enjoyed your notes. I never saw a tom cruise movie - somebody must be looking after me....

[@4everu984]

Well put together.

[@prowily1]

Scientology,, plane and simple A JOKE!!!

[@tome4846]

Plain and simple

[@quillber]

really good talk, thanks

[@kathleenanne7868]

Now it is 2019 Money talks and this church has plenty

[@kaarlimakela3413]

Ron Miscavige wrote a book about his son called 'Ruthless'. It is a tough thing ... but the truth will come out, David!

[@EVILSPAWN1003]

Who`d want to practice scientology OUTSIDE the church of scientology??

[@yashamaga13]

People that are still in denial that it's a complete scam

[@jamesf791]

Funny how Jim here hasn't read "going clear" and doesn't realize that that book and the film, really helped show to much more people the abuses of the church. But wonderful presentation. I have gone down the Scientology rabbit hole and North Korea and find so much similarities.

[@jamesklapper1916]

See "Going Clear" on HBO.

[@thebangkokconnection4080]

Hubbard and Joseph Smith should have met. Would be a shoo in for a prize at the Burlington Liars Club.

[@joshuakramer6496]

What's that? You'd like to clear your thetans of engrams on the bridge to total freedom? I know a song about that. "Oh ol' L Ron Hubbard went to the cupboard to give his E Meter a bash..."

[@MayimHastings]

Omg 🤣🤣🤣

[@JimLippard]

Thanks for that! I will make a note of that on my blog post, which lists corrections!

[@jeff61177]

Great video, now do one on the decline and eventual fall of the catholic religion!

[@arckocsog253]

Very informative lecture.

[@TheWolfmoon21]

Its all bullcrap folks, always remember that and do not fall into fantasy traps.

[@robinbaker464]

Jim - Point of information: The touch assist does not consist of "pointing at various areas and asking if it hurts" (I paraphrase you). It actually consists of touching the body extremities (toes and fingers) alternating from one side of the body to the corresponding other side. The idea is that injuries can become locked in if the synapses run out of acetyl choline (it happens if the input is severe enough). The subsequent touch impulses left-right left-right travel via the sympathetic nervous system and can re-establish the synaptic connections, thereby releasing the injury. I speak from cloudy memory (!) but the assists generally work very beneficially.

[@jasonmagel2069]

Thank you for clarifying

[@etrnlygr8tful]

Those who joined this cult....why? I mean what are they thinking? Also those in the Sea.Org...how can ordinary people tell which one is a real Navy personnel over the Sea. Org members when they wear the exact, if not close to identical uniform...isn't that dangerous? Islam and Scientology.....hmmm

[@tinabush7056]

There is a very big difference between Islam and Scientology.

[@etrnlygr8tful]

Tina Bush Of course.,..one is a religion the other a pseudo religion.

[@shrikramalei9091]

Islam, a religion? Wrong! It is an ideology, under the cover of religion.

[@DharmaMidget]

All religion, actually. Lies and fairy tales disguised as Truth.

[@robinbaker464]

Why join? Easy! Coz the good bits work - like dynamite. Fantastic. It's not 'til later that you discover that the way it's run organisationally (as opposed to the practices) stinks.

[@everythingbobbywolfe]

People do this on a small scale all the time. I've known plenty of people that have become clergy and then purchased properties, including their own homes, and used it for tax exempt status. I don't know how they get away with it, but it happens everywhere. Time to crack down on religion and make it EXTREMELY difficult to get exempt status for anyone or any business, especially religious institutions

[@SunRabbit]

That's actually a great idea, but twisted the other way around. Someone should start a church called Bullshitology and have it so that every member is automatically "clergy," and then not have to pay property tax on their own homes, and possibly even incomes. I suppose anyone could just make up a religion and do this on their own but the cost of hiring a lawyer to file all the paperwork and licensing fees might be prohibitive for a lot of people but THEN AGAIN when you figure how much you've already paid in taxes, it's probably worth it.

[@coralaisly]

Wow. Those two squirrels in that story in the beginning sure had some nuts on 'em.

[@favorite7100]

I live in Hemet, and have driven down the road where Scientology is located. There is a fence surrounding the property on both sides of the road. I don't know about razors on top of the fences. A few years ago, Scientology wanted the road closed where it divided it's property that is located on both sides of the road. This was not done. This would have been an inconvenience for local residents.

[@OceanbornAngel]

Scary...Lisa McPherson died on my Birthday. No wonder I've had several interesting run ins with Org members posing as "normal" people. They must think Lisa's "Thetan" has possessed me or something and I'm trying to get revenge on them.

[@vincentraven6102]

Great video, talented band, here's to their continued success