The Decline of 23andMe...What Happened?

[@Gangladeshh]

Seeing the entire board resign all at once is one of the most suspicious things I've seen a business do

[@Jay-jb2vr]

Is anything in America legit anymore??

[@SimuLord]

@@Jay-jb2vr You can still count on the craftsmanship of an Amish barn...at least until private equity buys Lancaster County, PA...

[@SheldonAdama17]

“Boy, that escalated quickly.”

[@Michael-qy1jz]

Because it was an intelligence front between Israel/ US etc.

[@Agent_Banana11]

All part of the plan. Thanks for the DNA

[@brianbuckley5204]

Big brain move: have a product that people can only possibly buy once and sell it as a loss leader

[@crispian67]

I think the way these DNA genealogy companies generate profit is by way of "curated analysis" made available by way of various subscription options. Still dodgy though!

[@quanbrooklynkid7776]

​@@crispian67 damn

[@repatch43]

But, but, but, SUBSCRIPTION!!!! That MUST add value, right? Noone in this industry sat down and tried to figure out how to actually make money.

[@ChrisWehadababyitsaboy]

they prob could make some money selling that info

[@logan9334]

@@crispian67 nah it's selling data. You are the product of these type of companies.

[@TJ-bu9zk]

Let me take a second to explain why Anne seems like such a perfect person to start a company like this: Her family is rich and connected.

[@MercenaryBlackWaterz]

Another girl boss, self-made billionaire who started a company with a loan from a rich friend. Cough(Elizabeth Holmes)cough...

[@kevinw6814]

Her family has been running things for a few thousand years.

[@vincedurden6446]

She's Jewish

[@KaitouKaiju]

​@@MercenaryBlackWaterzNot even friend, rich husband throwing money at her project

[@Phisherman10]

I remember reading about this company and they said she was self-made. The name struck me for some reason... then found out she was related to the person who ran KZbin. Very self made lmao

[@tantraman93]

I was part of their data breach. Their lawyers said that because I didn't have a printed receipt I had no claim. I had ordered their kit online and years (around 4) before the breach. But no paper receipt and I don't exist. So? How did they get my DNA unless I supplied it? Since they have my DNA sample did they get it illegally? Wouldn't having an account with 23andMe and having a DNA analaysis and years of messages between genetic relative kind of be a 'tell' that I bought their service? Apparenly NO! Somehow 23andME got my DNA, analysed it, and allowed the results to be stolen through their sloppiness...but no paper receipt and I don't matter. What a scam!

[@GOPRepubliklan]

SOUNDS LIKE ITS RUN BY DEMONRATS TRUMP 2024 MAKE LIBS SUFFER UNIMAGINABLE HORRORS!!!

[@TheCatherineCC]

Never listen to your enemy's lawyers

[@KameraShy]

What do they mean by "paper" receipt? Receipts are electronic now, like email messages. There should also be an entry on your bank or credit card statement, available electronically as a PDF image.

[@PastelOddity]

That’s total BS. A receipt doesn’t have to be physical to be valid, they just want it to be too much work to give up. Say you *did* have a paper receipt; they’d likely send you an address to mail it to, you’d have to mail it, and wait however long they want you to wait to hear anything back. That’s enough to make people think: “forget it”. But you don’t need to do that, your digital receipt is admissible in court.

[@mattr2626]

Sounds a bit fishy and like bs to me. I do workers comp law, it's not the same obviously, but 99% of the time when people file lawsuits they have zero proof whatsoever and they are still able to file a lawsuit. You'd have a good case likely.

[@ferminromero2602]

A big nail in the coffin: they no longer give you access to the raw data file. Poor excuses about security, etc. This is a suicidal move guaranteed to make the company fail.

[@razberrie27]

was this recent? i swear i just accessed my file a few weeks ago

[@WonderousLover]

I just downloaded all my data yesterday before deleting my account entirely. They have just made it hard to find the page to download it. That's all

[@ferminromero2602]

In the last year, new customers are not allowed to download their raw data file. Legacy users, like me, still can, though you now have to go through a gauntlet to find it. If something has changed for new users I’d like to know.

[@Laeiryn]

Glad I downloaded mine early....

[@thecolorjune]

@@ferminromero2602 woah I didn’t know that this was ever an option! I am a legacy user, how do I find my results to download them?? Thank you so much

[@Metroid250]

I take the main factor of the company's decline is public mistrust. The fact that their privacy policy is buried in paragraphs of lingo, government(s) being able to use that data for criminal investigations without people's EXPLICIT consent, the default opt-in of sharing this info on a database WITHOUT letting it CLEARLY known to customers, and recurrent data breaches. Shady company

[@BLACKAAROW]

also, insurance companies can purchase that data and reject you based on what the genetic data says

[@Metroid250]

@BLACKAAROW that's even worse. I hope that will come with civil repercussions later on. That's unethical to the nth degree. It's not even something that's pre-existing, how can insurance companies deny coverage merely on the "possibility" of an illness based on these tests?! Especially when it's been repeatedly shown that their accuracy is shotty, even among twins!

[@KaitouKaiju]

Yeah it's how they got the golden state killer after all this time. They compared DNA samples to people on 2 3 and me and a bunch of relatives popped up which helped them narrow it down

[@cellsheet]

I’m probably going to be okay with a data breach of personal information, but biogenetics on the other hand…

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

I agree with your point, but as a note consent is just one of the legal grounds for data processing in privacy law. Now, while US legislation in the matter is complex and left to the individual States, governments never need data subjects' consent to proceed with criminal investigations. How private entities use those data, on the other hand, is entirely different story and indeed explicit consent for processing sensitive data like genetic and healthcare information is required.

[@nickn271]

I already know I'm genetically predisposed to not want to spend $99 on a DNA test.

[@Purdey921]

Same here. And I wouldn’t want to know anything else.

[@thatShadowKat]

It is useful for those that don't know genetic history. $99 is cheap if it can report you have markers for cancers, heart issues or something else that could be passed on.

[@metpach]

​@@thatShadowKatThe issue is, their DNA samples are suspect at best. Remember when Elizabeth Warren tried to prove that she was native american, only to find out that they don't have any native American DNA to compare?

[@zekeprower1]

It's cheaper than the 3k I HAD to pay to prove I didn't have a genetic condition that was going to stop my entrance to the military. $99 is cheap but is it actually telling the medical truth? Probably not

[@debbieanne7962]

Costs $150 in Australia

[@havocmaverick]

My brother got his done and found out he is half mailman

[@pleasureincontempt3645]

@havocmaverick My mail lady is a proper snack. She’s fit and made for dreams.

[@Eapp1480]

🤣

[@wuldntuliktonoptb6861]

Why isn’t this the top comment. Bravo on a hilarious non copy and paste comment!

[@TheRealEdStoner]

I think this is the biggest reason people stopped using it. It seems to break up a lot of families.

[@stevedice5963]

😂

[@Graygeezer]

I’m a Korean War era adoptee who never knew who my genetic father was. I took the test and was stymied by the 5,000 “cousins” of various degrees that I matched up with. Eventually, I was found by a lady who turned out to be my paternal niece. Through her, my father’s children took the test and were identified as my half-siblings. The mystery of my life has been solved and I have a deep loving relationship with both sides of my genetic family. I would continue with 23andme, but they have priced themselves out of what I’m willing to pay on a continual basis.

[@GilraenTook]

I was also adopted, and never told anything about my history. Well, some lies and such, but not anything truthful. I have met (online) a cousin and aunt, and after having hundreds of slurs hurled at me over the course of my life, now at least know what I am, which is none of them, funny enough. I am definitely glad to know more about myself after it having been a mystery for so long, even if I've not met many relatives yet.

[@musicalchairs56]

There's no required subscription. That's exactly why they're going out of business most likely. They also don't have any desire to update their ancestry side of the site which is the same it's been since 2014. They've been left behind by the other companies.

[@garylewis4955]

Amazing story. Thank you for sharing

[@D.von.N]

This is the only reason I see this service useful for. If someone is looking for genetic match in the wide world. I am not, so if you were related to me you wouldn't find out. And if I was in your position I would probably not seek those matches. I am strongly introverted and independent. Genetic match of strangers don't matter to me much. Genes don't define me, so it means nothing to me to say who I am based on my genes. We live in a globalised world today. I don't even know how to answer a question about my nationality, being an expat. I am just a person who lives in a different country from hich they were born and speaks both languages, flexible to move elsewhere if the need arises. If I could list both nationalities that would be easier. Officially I am still linked to a country of my origin, culturally I am more home in my current place. Just silly labels.

[@michaelhunsinger8351]

One problem is that the Wojicki sisters seem to think that growing up rich in Silicon Valley makes them CEO material. Reality seems to differ.

[@SkyGlitchGalaxy]

You assume they were focused on a viable long-term business. I expect they were focused on making making as much money as possible, and they have done that. They made 100s of millions from a business's that only ever burned money. Sold their shares as part of a SPAC IPO. They did it perfectly. 100s of millions of dollars and no risk of going to the monkey house.

[@momoaa]

@@SkyGlitchGalaxyand it only took hundreds of millions of startup cash from her husband, friends, and husbands friends. what a genius move

[@pablodelsegundo9502]

The wealthy ALWAYS fancy themselves aristocracy after a certain point.

[@robertbeisert3315]

Depends on the purpose. They were awful at making money, but they were very good at collecting data on you and handing it to their sponsors.

[@scottbuck1572]

I mean say what you will about Susan, but her replacement is probably going to be the reason KZbin goes completely down the tubes

[@jimv77]

I remember my 23andMe results came back and showed my genetic makeup was based on ancestors who lived in poverty and not intellectually smart for generations and generations. A month later my credit card billed showed the $999 charge from 23andMe. I felt poor and stupid.... OMG, the test results were spot on accurate!!!

[@peoplethesedaysberetarded]

Ha!

[@bigrod359]

Wow 😮

[@quanbrooklynkid7776]

Funny

[@peoplethesedaysberetarded]

@@jimv77 .

[@Industry-insider]

Damn 😂

[@Arcademan09]

The first thing I immediately think is "there's only so many people you can do this to and there's tons of other companies doing it. There's also the people that are VERY against it"

[@fornhunkle]

It's a thing you only do once, and not only that, you may only be the only one in your family that needs to so it. There's no endless well of people to draw from

[@lajya01]

That pretty much applies to the EV market as well.

[@quanbrooklynkid7776]

​@@fornhunkle damn

[@woodduck2178]

​@@lajya01The EV market is just like the normal car market.

[@Sambam1981]

A lot of people don’t know about the health part of the company

[@SimuLord]

When doing an autopsy of 23AndMe, I hope they're able to look at the DNA evidence.

[@Chadjr2009]

Lmao

[@grenadiadrian]

Zing! 😂😂😂😂

[@Sriram-ig6pr]

lol

[@bobroberts2371]

Hopefully after selling off some assets, they can rebrand as Forever 21

[@cmdraftbrn]

it came back as inconclusive

[@imKazahkstan]

What's especially concerning about genetic privacy issues is that it involves familial data as well. You're not just handing over your own DNA, you're handing over part of the DNA of everybody related to you without their consent.

[@NoremacOktik]

THIS

[@dubuyajay9964]

Like sister, like sister. Neither of them cares about a right to privacy. Only exploiting your "personal" information.

[@jarjamz5916]

Serial killers hate these sites

[@ZemanTheMighty]

Yeah I know. I tried to get my brother not to do it but he did it anyway

[@37Kilo2]

Yup. From the start, I never trusted these DNA companies, deciding that I would never submit any of my genetic material to such a business. Unfortunately, my mother did. 🤷‍♂️

[@hgoff5617]

Wife and I took the test. She had no markers for memory loss which was a relief because her dad had dementia. Then a few years later she also got dementia. Very low confidence in the health aspects. Now i wonder about the ancestry.

[@Allyfee-q4v]

Ancestry in general is pretty hard, you can really only find genetic information either a few back or a few forward from yourself, anything else just gets to a point where it blends in with every other ancestor you’ve had since the dawn of life and DNA

[@edi9892]

That's sad. However, dementia is still poorly understood and in all likelihood not attributable to a singular cause. BTW: what hurt me was when my mean grandmother became the nicest relative thanks to dementia. It sounds weird, but think about what it says about her life and potentially free will...

[@bugginonthewall]

that’s very sad to hear, because if it had actually worked in your favour, your wife could have prepped in advance or at least asked professionals sooner! :(

[@slutroach7748]

dementia isn't always ONLY genetic though? there are so many environmental variables

[@Sashazur]

@@slutroach7748 There are also many causes and types of dementia. On top of that any genetic factors aren’t well understood yet. So if a DNA test says you don’t have a particular marker for Alzheimer’s etc., that doesn’t mean you won’t get dementia.

[@perceivedvelocity9914]

Wow, the founder was a case of tech elite nepotism. The 1% is always looking out for each other.

[@ryanjohnson4565]

How much you wanna bet that 1% still eats peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

[@bensantos3882]

1% has hooked noses, has a pension for evil and gold, wishes to enslaves the Goi, and also has smallhats.

[@scottandrews947]

It's an example of the new American Dream - marry rich and powerful.

[@elonever.2.071]

@@ryanjohnson4565 Peanuts from certified organic farms ground specifically to their liking and the jelly came specially shipped in grape form from Martha's Vineyard or the Napa Valley and processed on site at their compound.

[@aa-fo2ul]

@@ryanjohnson4565 they're not making them tho, or getting the ingredients from Costco that's for sure

[@jedshaffer5956]

I was interested a few years back, until I started doing research on the accuracy of their (and other genetics-by-mail) testing. There are numerous studies from universities out there that show the accuracy of the ancestry data is, at best, dubious. Studies have had siblings and even identical twins/multiples send in tests, and they get back different results, and not within something that could be considered a statistical margin of error. We're talking different ancestries. Never mind that many geneticists have come out and said the test's ability to narrow down DNA to a country is impossible (Germany versus Austria versus Hungary, for instance), as distinct genetic markers at that level do not exist.

[@glynnetolar4423]

Surprised they don't do the disclaimer, for entertainment purposes only.

[@mknm1349]

So Elizabeth Warren still has a chance?

[@SocialWorkProfessor]

There was a whole CBC expose on this. I think someone even sent in their dog's DNA and it wasn't flagged in any way.

[@vaderladyl]

wow, mine came very accurate though.

[@quanbrooklynkid7776]

​@@glynnetolar4423 damn

[@t0n51]

Fitting that the CEO of 23 and me is related to the CEO of the woman that ruined youtube

[@MasterBotttle]

"The corporate sisters who ruined everything"

[@hope-cat4894]

I wonder how many youtubers ended up doing videos of themselves taking 23 and Me tests? They basically made the sisters money twice.

[@olivercharles2930]

I don't think they are fronts at all. It is what it says on the tin, the governments only step in afterwards. I doubt the cia itself created it to get their hands on your spit. They would make it free.

[@wuldntuliktonoptb6861]

Fitting she married her top investor to lol na there’s no connection with the WOJ getting promoted after each of her 5 kids

[@toidIllorTAmI]

​@@wuldntuliktonoptb6861i read that and thought. "Wow she is REALLY playing the game"

[@dant.3505]

I remember a news story about a serial killer where detectives discovered the suspects identity by a family member match of DNA from the 23&ME database. I am not pro-serial killer by any means, but the law enforcement use of 23&ME data is disturbing to say the least.

[@plnkfloydian7814]

I was adopted and found my half sister, on 23 and me and we met for the first time in 30+ years. She brought my biological mom’s sister. It was very cool and surreal but such different people. We keep in touch every now and then but beyond that it was a fleeting feeling of connection

[@trnguy6137]

As an Asian.. I avoided this.. if I find out I'm only 89.44% I'm expected to disembowel myself...

[@mynintendo]

I never heard an Asian talk pathetically like this. You must be Westernized...

[@PuffKitty]

Nah, just 89.44% expected to disembowel yourself 😉

[@Astrid-lg9by]

What? Doesn’t make sense? Explain plz.

[@twdynai]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Astrid-lg9byIt's a stereotype that anything below an A is a failure to Asian students/parents*. 89.44% counts as a B if it were a letter grade, so the joke is that OP would be punished for "failing" the genetic test. Hope this helps : ) *speaking from experience

[@TheDestroyedOne]

You're a Asian not a Bsian - from somewhere idk

[@SeanzatChimalley_MMA]

*What happened?* …uh, people wised-up to the fact that they shouldn’t give away their genetic information to potentially end up in the hands of malicious actors 😂

[@macethorns1168]

It's unfortunate that close relatives can give away your information for you.

[@arcticfox6808]

I think you nailed it. Covid was the wake-up call

[@amanwithdope]

Eh, what exactly are they gunna do with that info? Find better poisons or increase my cancer risk with specific heavy metals… They can’t use them for setting insurance rates in the US.

[@darbix5901]

its more like, people willing to spend the money on the test already did and no one else wants to for obvious reasons

[@james_halpert]

@@amanwithdope Just one example: Jack up your insurance cost or deny you coverage alltogether in case any genetic issues have been detected. Don't be so naive.

[@fifthrider]

This reminds me of the time those guys opened a ghost catching business in NYC but then they caught all the ghosts. No repeat business. Thank God the EPA did something stupid and let them all out again but that's just repeating the same dead-end business model that's destined to end at some point. ....like the end of the world.

[@Freddisred]

It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't exposing people to questionable doses of radiation, they're gonna make more ghosts than they catch.

[@KingRandor82]

As a Ghostbusters fan, I approve this message :)

[@fifthrider]

@@KingRandor82 As a former Ecto owner, "Yes, have some".

[@newbirth35]

😂

[@SeanHartnett-t8c]

@@KingRandor82 lol

[@reiaino]

I did the test a few years ago to encourage my mom, who had no information about her bio dad. Happily mom found her half brother by taking the test. They offered me a free year of the health information after I bought my test. I just noted the genetic concerns to my doctor, but there was no reason or incentive to keep the service once the free year was up.

[@seashackf1]

You dropped the service, but they still own your data so you’re not completely done with them. They can sell it to whoever they want. If they go bankrupt, who’s going to buy it and what are they going to do with it? There’s already been one breach and there may be more in the future.

[@rayshelld791]

I was a foster kid. Basically unwanted for whatever reason. I've had people tell me I should take one of these tests to find out about my past and maybe connect to blood realitives. And I tell them, where were these aunts and uncles when us kids where taken? They took the kids that where named after them, but since I wasn't named after any of them, I was bounced from home to home until I was 18. Where were they when I needed them most? Forget them. I made it on my own. I sure don't need them now.

[@TheGreatLarryPotter]

Wise choice. People that heartless and selfish would never bring anything of value to your life now. How cruel of them! The best revenge is a happy life well-lived.

[@danburch9989]

If you made it in this world and became rich or won the lottery, you don't want 23andMe involved. Your long lost relatives will be linked to you with their hands out and a long sob story.

[@13infbatt]

Find/make your own tribe .good luck on your journey .

[@KyleKirkpatrick123]

My room-mate works for a medical supply warehouse and a main part of his job was packing DNA tests from places like 23andMe. 23andMe was one of their biggest clients and where most of their business came from. When all of their executives resigned, him and around 80% of the staff in that warehouse were furloughed...

[@KameraShy]

Another example of the ripple effect from corporate incompetence.

[@SeanHartnett-t8c]

@@KameraShy true

[@mrkattm]

Letting your DNA profile be stored in a database controlled by some unknown company is just crazy. I don't care what the current laws are there is no way of knowing what they are going to do with that data at some point in the future, if you thought companies selling your email address was annoying just imagine what they can do with your DNA profile.

[@squirrel9760]

Such conspiracy theories with no facts

[@ronsmith4325]

@@squirrel9760 That's some copium right there.

[@GeeMannn]

​@@squirrel9760How naïve do you have to be to think they aren't selling your genetic data? Were you born yesterday? Lmao

[@squirrel9760]

@@ronsmith4325 yep here we go again. Instead of facts just nothingness.

[@squirrel9760]

@@GeeMannn please give me one piece of evidence. No? Yeah o thought so. Do you know the us government is actually cloning you right now because they have had access to your dna your whole life? Oh wait that’s sounds ridiculous.

[@rmp5s]

They aren't failing...they're doing exactly what they set out to do: Collect everyone's DNA. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard pass on that shit...

[@poogissploogis]

Exactly! It's been fishy to me from the start

[@Mannyr-bu7qv]

We'll be cloned

[@balsalmalberto8086]

You are not special pal.

[@rmp5s]

@@balsalmalberto8086 ...???

[@usernotfound-ue7ld]

Your not that special bud

[@james_halpert]

The worst part is that it is almost certain that the genetic health results will find their way into the hands of insurance companies and they will use that to deny you a payout if you didn't properly disclose all the possible genetic issues that 23andMe reported to you. Most people don't think that they have to report this, but as soon as you have any knowledge about possible issues, you have to disclose it in the insurance application. If you didn't, you can wave your insurance goodbye - better start looking for a new one and do the proper disclosures. In that case: Congratulations, 23andMe just cost you thousands of dollars.

[@duncanluciak5516]

Make your health care universal to eliminate this problem.

[@james_halpert]

@@duncanluciak5516 I live in Europe so that isn't even the problem. But there are other important insurances than just healthcare, which to my knowledge aren't state regulated insurances in any country. Examples: Life insurance or occupational disability insurance.

[@amqve]

atleast in the US theres a federal act that prohibits insurance companies from doing that - Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act (though it doesnt apply to life insurance unfortunately :/ applies to health insurance and employment)

[@reubensandwich9249]

​@@duncanluciak5516That's only for life insurance. It doesn't apply to health insurance due to a law.

[@SeanHartnett-t8c]

@@amqve yep

[@CarlosAdrianAguirre-hp9fv]

As a medical student I can say that while having genome analysis is pretty cool, most of the useful information can be gotten by asking the patient "any illnesses that run in your family?" Edit: I think my point didn't come that clear to some, but I meant in most cases, when dealing with the average patient. Now if the patient did't get to know their family, or if we are dealing with something more serious (the type of thing you would pass on to a geneticist) then yeah, sequence the patient, but on the average visit there is no need to do that.

[@61rampy65]

My wife was adopted at birth, and all records were sealed. That was 76 years ago, and she still has no idea who her bio parents are, nor does she know anything about their health history. A DNA test *may* help, but it would be very iffy.

[@soogymoogi]

It was helpful for me as a donor baby, but most people who know their medical history won't have that problem. Also found 2 donor siblings to cross compare health stuff with which was cool

[@CarlosAdrianAguirre-hp9fv]

@@61rampy65 Actually in the case of your wife a DNA test would be very good at knowing a lot of those predispositions she might have, although given her age if there was any illness she was predisposed to develop she probably would have already by this point. Still, if you can afford it, it might be worth it (at least to see the probability of cancers, so she knows what to avoid).

[@thatShadowKat]

My answer is always the same: "adopted." So I took 5 of the major tests out there. Came up fairly clean thankfully.

[@lmpeters]

Another issue is that if there's a family history of an illness that has only recently been understood, the family may not be aware of it. I know someone who was diagnosed with diabetes, and when she looked at her family history, she didn't find any ancestors who had been diagnosed with diabetes, but she did find ancestors with health problems that could have been symptoms of untreated diabetes.

[@TheOpinionatedYouTuber]

Once Law Enforcement was given unfettered access to 23andMe’s data, I and many people like me decided not to participate.

[@stephenrock712]

Big brother has enough data on me. And my family. When you start hearing about cold cases being solved by using 23 and Me or otherwise dna ancestry data and then they start asking your siblings about what your parents might have been up to and then your aunts or uncles… yeah no. Get some real evidence and get off my property.

[@repatch43]

Unfortunately that doesn't help, since if ANYONE related to you is in the database, you are basically in it too.

[@josephsager9425]

​@@repatch43 family tends to share values like privacy and socioeconomic status (i.e. if the test would be too expensive) so the DNA of a cousin isn't gonna give cops probable cause unless I was already a suspect.

[@real_exodus]

If you've done nothing wrong, you should have nothing to hide. You're obviously guilty of something and I hope the police read this (calling 911 now).

[@hamsterama]

@@real_exodus That's false. Innocent people have been harassed by police based on bad genetic info. Read up on Michael Usry, Jr. He was harassed by police for a crime he never committed, based on genetic genealogy. DNA is science, but genetic genealogy is junk. There's no college degree for it. The so-called "consultants" that police use are nothing more than shrieking Karens, who think they're crime fighting experts because they figured out their great-great-great-great-great grandmother was a 2nd cousin of someone on the Mayflower. If you are innocent, you have everything to fear from police who use these Karens. Again, look up Michael Usry Jr.'s story.

[@MyKnifeJourney]

And the database becomes valuable in bankruptcy, shows you what the company truly valued. Selling your information to the highest bidder. Request your info be deleted while there still is an opportunity.

[@Purdey921]

But would they do it and how would anyone know?

[@MickeyMousePark]

@@Purdey921 you are correct..i design databases for large corporations..the way it generally works (not exclusive to any one company) is when you delete your account a flag is tripped in the DB marking the record as "deleted" the data is still there but not "accessible" this also allows a "undelete" of the record by flipping the flag ..after a garbage collector comes through it will delete all flagged records..BUT there are backups to the database i do not know any company that goes back through all of their database backups and deletes records...

[@megachonk9440]

Is that even an option?

[@bakstabbath]

The Genie is already out of the bottle.

[@robertbeisert3315]

You can request it, but how will you ever know it was done? Heck, how will you know they don't have redundant copies?

[@jeast417]

Privacy is the biggest reason ive never done this or any others

[@Purdey921]

Before I retired, I was asked to fill out a health “survey.” What was really behind it was insurance companies wanting to up premiums to people who were not fitting their idea of wellness. I did not participate and was not the only one. I was intrigued by 23 and Me type kits but never did it, as it was too costly. Glad I didn’t! I wouldn’t put it past insurance companies to want to bid on this data.

[@DOC_951]

As a doctor, my opinion is: it’s a fun novelty. It isn’t going to change your life or improve it. You’ll get some random data about diseases a majority of people have never heard of… and you’ll move on with your life. Had a family member do it. We talked about it for all of about 10 minutes and it’s never been mentioned again.

[@Markimark151]

They shouldn’t have pushing their subscription model on something that’s meant to be a one time purchase! Also companies need to stop with violating people’s privacy with selling their data!

[@SimuLord]

If you don't want your data sold, don't give it to people who sell it. But of course that's easier said than done unless you want to live in a cave or join the Amish.

[@jasonfischer8946]

Like Bill Burr said, why would you do this? You're just helping them to build your replacement robot.

[@illegal_space_alien]

BEEP BOOP STATEMENT IS FALSE. HELLO FELLOW HUMAN.

[@tracyeric07]

Things they can do without your assistance…

[@jasonfischer8946]

@@illegal_space_alien 😆

[@billyburton123]

If you're african american I get it because they made you change your name and stuff but if you're white, its the most arrogant thing ever. Dontcha essentially know what you are? 🤣

[@eastsidereviews727]

Yeah I thought about doing something like this a long time ago , but then I got suspicious of just sending my dna and info off to some company and got over wanting to find my roots. My grandparents come from Alabama and Mississippi for my mom and Alabama and Arkansas for my dad. That's enough for me.

[@sonicxhunters8344]

My grandparents come from ranches in Mexico.. records were probably the last thing on their minds lol… that’s not something 23andme could answer so I never bothered… my brothers did and they somehow got different ancestry percentages lmao. Further proof I made the right choice.

[@MalevolentBite]

​@sonicxhunters8344 I hope you know each sibling, even with the same parents, will have a different dna breakdown one might be more mexican than the other. So you didn't really prove your argument.

[@sonicxhunters8344]

@@MalevolentBite of course, I didn’t say we were all identical twins or whatever.. we’d all get different dna percentages to make us who we are.. whether that leads to nationality/geographical differences I guess I’ll have to take your word for it. Like he said in the video.. if one sibling gets a test, another doesn’t feel the need to get it as well

[@palomathereptilian]

Same here, but they don't sell those kits in Brazil and I wasn't fond of paying a ridiculous amount of money to import those kits... Found a good website to trace my family tree and found so many information, I was able to trace all the way back to the 1700s on my maternal grandma's side (which is all Portuguese) And, after years, I was able to finally find some information about my maternal grandpa's side... My mom doesn't even knew the names of her great-grandparents from her father's side, now we found out and she's so happy about it bc she always wondered about them There are similar things from my dad's side of the family (we were able to trace my grandpa's tree all the way back to the 1700s too), but we have more information about his side of the family overall (mostly Sephardic Jewish from Morocco/Spain and Spanish, with some random Portuguese and Italian too)

[@bos-G-state7359]

Me and my family did both 23andme and ancestry found out we are indigenous to America and have a paternal lineage with Pharaoh Ramesses III. also found lost and adopted family members and some family secrets as well we had a lot of people lying and cheating back in the old days just like now we even found our ancestors slave owners family members

[@mlmFormula]

When customers realize that buried 100 million words into their TOS is the fact that they'll willingly sell your most personal information (DNA) to anyone they so choose (gov't, law enforcement, insurance, private equity - there's no limit), all without requiring your approval, and in fact without even giving you a "You''ve just been pimped out" courtesy email, it should be no surprise it's hard to find new buyers. This whole industry is slimy from jump street.

[@aubsta1]

I’m a molecular geneticist. Years ago, before 23andMe existed, I warned my students to never give away their DNA to a corporation….well….

[@28ebdh3udnav]

Next video: *KZbin - Why they're hated*

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

I feel he's done one on KZbin but there's always something going on 😅

[@brendanhunter389]

10 min vid that just says ads

[@glorbojibbins2485]

And stinky

[@israeldelarosa5461]

From one Wojcicki to the next.

[@trnguy6137]

Now you have evidence what everyone already knew about your French wife and your 5 kids

[@JeanValjean875]

I just think there was a limit to their growth because customers only had to get the DNA test once. If you have no repeat customers, it's hard to sustain a business.

[@SimuLord]

Indeed. Instead of using the proceeds from those initial sales to develop a product line that could've brought in repeat business, they just came up with some vague techy-sounding "subscription service" with all the substance and durability of cotton candy on a rainy day.

[@elonever.2.071]

Their thought was that there were 300 million people in the U S alone so that is $300Billion. And at the time probably 6 billion people in the world which is potentially $6Trillion. If the requests trickle in it is hard to make money.

[@lucianaromulus1408]

​@@SimuLordyou're absolutely right, they should of used those funds for a different recurring type product

[@corrineromero1761]

I'm surprised more people aren't turned off by them sharing records with the police. Like sure, maybe you don't commit any crimes now, but you don't know WHAT is gonna be illegal in the future.

[@lesleywilliams1210]

Only certain databases share that information with LE. 23andme is not one of them, and you can opt out.

[@mirrage42]

@@lesleywilliams1210 Yet.

[@skilledwarman]

THATS WHY THE NAME SOUNDED SO FAMILIAR! I've watched a few videos on 23 And Me lately and any time Anne Wojiski's name came up ive been like "why does that sound so familiar?"

[@darexinfinity]

I remember talking to my old co-workers talking about when it was growing. They explained it to me and I asked how does the company remain profitable. They said new genetic discoveries keep happening and that by doing the subscription service you'll keep getting updated. I told myself "no one is going to keep paying for a chance of an update" and it seems like I was right.

[@groermaik]

Don't do it. Reason #5. I had State Police try to interview me because of a personal DNA test given to me as a gift. Apparently, I have a relative involved in some type of rather serious crime (they wouldn't tell me what my relative did) and wanted to know the location of all my relatives. I refused and told them to leave. I contacted the company that performed my test and requested it be removed from the database. She told me that because the database was already accessed by the police that it couldn't be removed. Don't do it.

[@Jared-91]

I would have told them lol. My relatives are weird.

[@SkyeID]

See that's what worries me: the government having access to my DNA and who knows what they'll do with it

[@MartianAmbassador69]

So you have a relative linked to a rape or murder and decided you'd rather protect them than the victim?

[@ChaiLatte13]

Did you upload to Gedmatch?

[@vaderladyl]

meh.. i did it long time ago. Had fun with it.

[@Senseless..]

No drama, no scandals, just good informative videos keep it up company man

[@rushevents]

Never felt good about my DNA info sitting in a corporate server. I also think that one day soon it will be a normal test from your regular Doctor.

[@rangerannie5636]

That one day soon is closer than you think.

[@megachonk9440]

And who do you think is going to actually run the tests your doctor orders? Private corporations.

[@ronintiger]

Most likely they already have your DNA bro

[@jamessteele7102]

Your dna is probably already stored somewhere from past blood tests.

[@TheFishingNomad]

This is the kind of company that should be part of another company. A company like JNJ for example could swoop in and buy it and then sell this service as they well all their products. As a standalone company, it's dumb.

[@ashurean]

I think they needed to be much more closely tied to the healthcare industry and worked with geneticists to get that data into people's charts so doctors would essentially have customized lists of things to focus on when that person came in with symptoms. At the same time, they needed to be doing WAY more to assure people that their data wouldn't end up in the hands of insurers, who have always been eyeing the idea of changing prices based on genetic predispositions.

[@SheldonAdama17]

I guess success just isn’t in this company’s DNA

[@AK-47ISTHEWAY]

🤣

[@TheOtherBill]

This should be a pinned comment!

[@Bob-B-.]

Only in America would DNA not be protected health information.

[@JacobPaul-ix7oc]

And China, which has been gathering samples of DNA from all around the world according to a NY Times article from October 21, 2021.

[@MagnificentDevil]

It isn't protected in the majority of the world

[@HindiLearnersDiary]

Never had any desire to try the product. Primarily for those privacy and security reasons.

[@aznnp77]

Hey Company Man. So this weekend the last K-Mart in the US is closing. It just dawned on me that Target basically replaced K-Mart as the alternative to Wal Mart. Wondering how Target snuck up on K-Mart like that, with the same red theme. And how there was even room for the 3 of them for a while. My buddy worked at Target back in 2001, so they've been around for a while.

[@misskeirstin6355]

*They just can’t compete with Ancestry. After you get your DNA tested with Ancestry, you’re going to want to hang around and build out your family tree and contact and find relatives. You’re also more likely to pay for an ongoing Ancestry subscription because that’s worth the money. All the databases they give you access to. 23 and Me has to also consider that some people don’t like the health aspect of it. They don’t want you to tell them they have a higher likelihood of having heart disease. Years ago I was working at Sprint and a customer runs in screaming “take this phone back!! I don’t want it monitoring my heartbeat!!” Everybody just isn’t in to that, they barely want to go to the doctors. Most Americans can’t even afford to go like they need to.*

[@CoyoteGuru]

I'm an adoptee. I used 23andMe last spring and found two first cousins. I've never had any contact with my bio family and have limited information about them. I'm unsure whether I should reach out to the cousins. They may not have ever known I exist. This has nothing to do with 23andMe as a company; it's simply something I felt like saying "aloud." I've barely mentioned this to anyone.

[@beriblonde]

I urge you to reach out to your cousins with the simple truth. You have nothing to lose and so much to gain. I speak from experience and a very satisfying one. Take that leap. May God bless you.

[@johnandconnieleland6192]

My Wife was in the same situation as you. My daughter reached out to a couple of people related to her after the test and no one wanted to be contacted. At least she found out she was of mixed Eastern European decent.

[@MikeV8652]

Do it! If you don't, you'll always wish you had. Your cousins will have the option of being open to contact or not, but they're grown-ups who did the test wanting to find relatives. Well, guess what! Chances are they'll be glad to meet you, or at least it'll create a new and interesting family story. (At more serious gene-testing companies that don't require ongoing membership payments, they would have already been notified of you as a cousin at the same time you were notified of them.)

[@ElFonzieG13]

This is the exact reason why any voluntary genetic business is doomed to fail. You’re supposed to live your own life and not ask questions, nobody asked/wants to deal with you.

[@bos-G-state7359]

You should most definitely reach out i found my dad and siblings through a DNA match on ancestry

[@MisterCynic18]

So basically an unsustainable business model proved to indeed be unsustainable. Question now is are they gonna sell all that juicy data to stay afloat or go quietly into that good night.

[@ethanstyant9704]

The CEO is the sister of Susan Wojcicki, is it even a question?

[@joelmartin2549]

Some one listening to Robert Barns?

[@AngelaRichter65]

So, I came at genetic testing as a Molecular Biologist, AKA Geneticist. I did the 23 and Me test on accident. They ask you a ton of family health related questions and then tailor their report to you based on the information you already know and gave them. I found then wholly A) inadequate, and; B) untrustworthy. For example they told me I had brown hair and no freckles. I'm a red head with freckles that would give me a great tan if they'd all grow together. Ancestry gave me no health information and their heritage information was... interesting considering they did it without mitochondrial DNA. Again, not exactly trustworthy. My maiden and married names are Germanic, so they gave me a huge Germanic report at first and then had to back track as, I am mostly of British Isles extraction and my forebears came to America long enough ago that I would seem, genetically, completely from North America. Your complete family genetics change every six generations. Stuff like this only works on people who don't know anything about their family for sure. I was fortunate enough to have a maternal grandmother who did a really well documented genealogy before she died. So, what you're paying to know with 23 and Me is stuff you already know because you had to tell them to get the test processed. With Ancestry, well, it's more of a crapshoot, because your DNA only goes back 6 generations, and hopefully it's been accurately handed down.

[@beingmegucaissuffering.5326]

For real! I don't really like the idea of a corporation like 23 and me having my private health information to begin with, but also I don't need it anyway because my mom and my aunt are both super big into genealogy and have put a ton of research into our family tree.

[@vakarthi4]

Can you tell me more about how the entire family genetics changes every 6 generations? Can you direct me to some material I could read up about this further? In India, it was customary to trace up to 7 ancestors when match-making ( arranged marriage)

[@codemonkeyslikeme]

I called lies. They dont say “you’re a redhead”. Instead, they say “you’re more likely to be redhead”. Judging by the way you type, you’re no scientist (or a bad one lol).

[@deecee2174]

​@@codemonkeyslikeme wow how intelligent are you to argue with OCs semantics and assume that semantics = intelligence... In all honesty, she types more intelligently and respectfully than you lmao 🤣

[@deecee2174]

​​@@codemonkeyslikemeI call lies.* You're not a scientist.* Before you judge ones grammar and intelligence, make sure yours is perfect first!

[@andywellsglobaldomination]

One year, I bought 23nMe kits for everyone in my family for Xmas. Most took the test and are on the list. But after siblings and nieces/nephews, the list drops down to 2nd cousins. My dad had 9 siblings. So either there's a religious ban on taking DNA tests in south Mississippi, or we're not related to them. A win-win!

[@MegaBlueman88]

Company man needs to do a series about private equity ruining every industry it touches

[@19BruteSquad90]

Decline of 23 & Me posted 23 minutes ago. I’m winning the lotto tonight boys!

[@TheWorstThingEver]

Someone once gave me a 23andMe kit as a gift. I never sent in a sample because I didn't want some company to have my genetic information. I'm glad I didn't do it.

[@TURBOMIKEIFY]

I genuinely wanted to do a DNA analysis of myself, considering that I’m mixed with Irish, French, African and Native American. But I don’t want a company ON TOP OF my state government having my DNA. Stay out of trouble and don’t do a misdemeanor while committing a felony (knowingly or unknowingly).

[@DefenderOfVirginity]

unfortunately if your family has gotten it done, they have YOUR DNA as well

[@quanbrooklynkid7776]

Understandable

[@TheJingles007]

You committed a crime previously?

[@TURBOMIKEIFY]

@@TheJingles007 Probation for having mushrooms.

[@hamzerpanzer]

​​@@TURBOMIKEIFYAnd they cop your DNA for that? I thought it would have to be like a serious felony or something damn

[@41chemist19]

I would pay a decent chunk of change in a heartbeat to have my genone sequenced, but only if I could verify for myself that nobody else stored that data. My genetic privacy is way too damn important to me otherwise, but I'd love to have my genetic data on my cold storage server.

[@SeanHartnett-t8c]

me too.

[@ChrisGore-ey1yt]

23andMe sparked a bigger interest for me in genealogy of my bloodlines... plus helped shut-up some of my family in the questioning of the legitimacy of my biological daughter being actually related to me once we re-gained connection 20 years after her being adopted out at birth. Her and I realized it on our own uber easily without the need of testing. But due to that increased desire to learn more of my bloodline, it assisted me in my in my search to build my family tree lineage and I eventually learned that, amongst other things, former US VP Al Gore is an actual cousin of mine. For better or worse, I find that quite cool.

[@johnchedsey1306]

He was a tenth level vice president, so there's that.

[@armandolimon7465]

Be honest, COVID bucks were spent on it in 2020-2021. Now the free money is gone and those who wanted it bought it, means the product is over.

[@RefreshingShamrock]

I never understood how it was possible for them to trace my family lineage to some Irish king during the 300's AD.

[@Wolfie54545]

Mitochondrial DNA can really help narrow that down

[@Luzgar]

If there was a plan where they send you the result only on paper and delete everything afterward, that would nullify every privacy concerns. (If actually done.)

[@SixOhFive]

A genetic test of any and all kind, should be something you do with your doctor only, period.

[@olivercharles2930]

Disagreed.

[@calorion]

So to sum up: 1) They tried to get too big too fast by losing money up front. 2) They had no clear vision for what their product was for. 3) They did not understand their market. This is like the playbook for how to go out of business. The only one they're missing is a ton of leveraged debt.

[@jamiegreenberg8476]

i wrote a paper about DNA databases for forensic science and a big chunk of it was just about 23andme and their privacy concerns

[@kaydog890]

Doubt that highly based on your sentence structure. Unless it was in highschool, and you failed it.

[@sucyshi]

23andme was pretty useless for me. I'm mixed race (half han chinese, half white) and every few years my "ancestry composition" would update to something wildly different, and completely impossible. I have been labelled by it as being primarily every race under the sun except the Jewish ancestries and African Diaspora. When it started out it claimed I was barely any Chinese or Asian at all, and basically all Scandinavian, but given it showed my correct relations to all of my fully Chinese family members and their descendants, that's impossible even by their own data. Then suddenly I was completely Italian. Then I phased with my biological chinese mother suddenly I was barely white and almost entirely vaguely east asian, despite it showing all my caucasian paternal cousins and such with the correct connections. It's more accurate now but after all of those changes and discrepancies, those being the only ones I've noticed, I'm pretty doubtful. It's not like my genetics are even rare or all that convoluted.

[@FozzyBBear]

When I moved to the US, they added 2% Native American DNA to my profile. They just tell you want they think will make you buy more testing.

[@KameraShy]

This is typical of other stories I have heard about their attempts to identify ethnicity. And why I haven't bothered with it. I know my complete ancestry for all lines going back to the 1700's and earlier.

[@teejayman215]

Thank You!! I always wanted to look into how they manipulate what and how they share information back to you. I believe that they especially lie about asian genes to mess with people psychologically. Apparently I'm 99% south asian but I have more % of Neanderthal DNA than most users. But apparently Neanderthal are associated with Europeans these days. Interesting indeed

[@qkomodo9098]

I still remember paying for the test aje literally never getting it. Then I called to get a replacement... but NEVER got that either

[@jtevanz]

Maybe they checked your socials and decided your dna had no worth to them. That's what happened to me; keep my insta private now 🔒

[@superblitz]

I was a customer of 23&Me. I have heard the conspiracy theories that a court could subpoena the company for DNA results if it was needed for a case and 23&Me would have to comply. As far as the service overall, I have always kind of thought of it as entertainment because most people only did the test once, would the results be the same every time? In theory, yes. Yet when triplets had done the test, talking about the results on a talk show, 1 of the results did not match up completely with the others.

[@teddys5775]

I didn’t do 23&me specifically because I heard they were selling the data and letting law enforcement have access to it without warrants

[@alexjackson936]

If you didn’t think sending your dna to a corporation willingly was a bad idea, I’m terrified of what you think is a good idea…

[@OrbObserver]

Can you actually articulate why it's a bad idea or is a vague miasma of fear all you have going for you?

[@Michael-qy1jz]

It was an intelligence / Pentagon/ Israeli front to gather info and DNA.

[@jtevanz]

Mayonnaise with fries instead of ketchup. Both mixed together if you're elite.

[@Fjdjfjsz92938]

@@SimuLordyou literally didn’t actually give a real reason why it’s bad though?

[@squirrel9760]

@@SimuLordsee you can’t give an actual reason….

[@irishnotsane9365]

This company screamed scam when I saw it come out and it just got worse as more and more came out. It didn’t help there was a lot of thing connecting it to law enforcement. Also doesn’t help there are millions of other companies offering the same thing for less.

[@reflex9238]

One thing I always wondered, is what this would find from any natives in North American or South American people, since I heard a few Latin American countries still have people who don’t even speak Spanish and only know the Native Language. My Grandfather just so happened to be one of them as he didn’t even learn Spanish until he was 12 years old.

[@wendymeyer463]

I joined over 15 years ago. It was very pricy then. I did it for my mom and me as she had heart disease and was showing signs of Alzheimer’s. At the time it was “private” and would never get into the hands of insurance companies or the government. My understanding is the government strong armed the company for the information and told them they couldn’t give people the good useful information as it could make people suicidal. My mom has the gene for Alzheimer’s and heart disease. I started to study more on genetics and figured out her big triggers and started to avoid them. She turned 81 this weekend and is doing great. Her heart doctor said whatever she was doing to keep doing it. I now do a lot of genetic testing on my patients, not because I can’t change it, but show them how to manage it.

[@REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI]

I want to laugh at the fact that Steve Jobs paid $100,000 for this but then the following year it came down in price significantly.

[@thepiedish903]

Me and my mom did the ancestry test and it was really cool to see all of the information one time and that's it. Never really did anything else with it.

[@newbirth35]

My results are occasionally updated and refined.

[@XSlimSxadyX]

So a company that sells your data has multiple connections to KZbin???? Wonder what they’re doing with our data here lol

[@DallasMay]

Nothing. No one wants it. It's actually not really all that valuable. That's exactly their problem.

[@XSlimSxadyX]

@@DallasMay yeah lmao pretty telling by those profit reports!! Still concerning though 😅

[@JoJoJoker]

Her husband founded Google!

[@angellmpls1]

Your health insurance company is very interested in know how much of a liability you are going to be in the future. Pharma companies are very interested in knowing how many people will need/want a drug and where they can be found. Law enforcement is very interested in having a database they can tap to find out who was involved or present at a crime scene, and can figure it out even if just a relative of yours ever sent in a sample. Marketing firms are interested in knowing the ethnic composition of your community in great detail. Terror groups or totalitarian governments would like to know that as well for genocidal planning. I'm sure there's more, that's what I can imagine off the top of my head.

[@XSlimSxadyX]

@@angellmpls1 don’t remind me how shit our healthcare system is 😭 a lot of these are really depressing honestly.

[@dabanjo]

23 and me: "Answer these questions about your ancestry." ....(2 weeks later).... "We've discovered your ancestry!"

[@thequeenofswords7230]

5:10 Yeah. People want it to be like astrology; "don't tell me I'm going to get sick, I'm here for the good times. Tell me I'm attractive and genetically always correct."

[@WMTSmiley]

Some suggestions I’d like to see: The Decline of MySpace (been asking for it since forever) Walmart The Decline of Hastings The Decline of Citgo Dirt Cheap Food Lion/Ahold Delhaize Boar’s Head

[@olivercharles2930]

what in the world are half of these lmao The hell is "Boar's Head"? Do they sell tacky zoological themed furniture?

[@dwood78part23]

This is my 1st time hearing about this company. I'm not surprised that this firm was co-founded by the sister of the former late CEO of YT- it looks like she's running this company into the ground just like when her sister Susan ran YT- & this site hasn't recovered since.

[@drunkenhobo8020]

Wojcicki. I think that's all that needs to be said!

[@SeanzatChimalley_MMA]

🎯💯

[@WHATISUTUBE]

I once thought Jews were exaggerating with their anti semitism claims. But after oct of last year its come out full force. I wonder if this is what the mood was in germany before the gas chambers

[@fireflyfox93]

I love the idea of 23andMe, I would love to know my genetics like that. I love that shit. But its the privacy aspect that has kept me from doing it 😬 I don't trust it.

[@scottstrang1583]

I’d like to know my genetics but I see no reason to give the gov this info. They already have enough. Plus I’m sure ppls doctors give them this info.

[@stevenjlovelace]

My dad took a test from a competing service, and they said he was 50% Norwegian, despite all of our genealogical research saying we were English. My dad was intrigued and even wondered if there was a family secret we didn't know about, but then six months later he got an email saying that, after updating their database based on more data, we were indeed English. I understand that's how science works, but it really destroys their credibility.

[@kathyyoung1774]

That can destroy a family!

[@jamesrobinson1579]

So I bought my kit and one for my daughter at $250 CDN per kit. 2 years later my brother mentioned he was thinking of getting one so I gave him one as a Christmas gift... That year my mom bought hers, and then 2 of my cousins did too... All of those kits were over $200 CDN... But ONLY that. We all look at the data a few times a year as they continued to update both the health info, physical traits and the genealogy information... but it cost no additional money. While I really love this model as a consumer, I can easily see how it hits a revenue dead end. Once everyone who is interested has bought it there's no more income. I know about a dozen other friends and family members who have bought the kits, so among us all we represent thousands of dollars... but there's no recurring revenue and market saturation is pretty much here. Having watched your video and one other about their financial problems I downloaded my raw data and informed my family members they should do the same in case the company dissapears. I will mention that (at least for a while) US customers could not get the health markers and predisposition to medical condition markers... It was stopped by the FDA or some such as unlicensed "medical diagnosis" or something like that. Here in Canada we did not get that limitation but I am certain that this caused a significant drop in sales in the US! The number of genetic disease markers they test for is impressive and being individually tested for every one of those conditions would be crazy expensive.... Two hundred and fifty Canadian pesos ruled out (for me) dozens of potential disease predispositions with a genetic component, and also made me aware of one to watch for and take measures to minimize risks.

[@Sandles_3199]

What does 23 have to do with me? I'm not 23.

[@UltimateInkling]

Meand23

[@MorganTheGorgon]

This is such an unrepentant dad joke and I love it

[@MrSpirit99]

Ah, the one with the 24 chromosomes.

[@Pikmin012]

Its not 23 and you, its 23 and Company Man.

[@Turbo5150]

number of pairs of chromosomes in a cell.

[@Hoboranger]

I took the 23 and me and a competitors. It did match up with my family tree very well. I do not regret doing it but it was only worth the $99 I spent not more. I'm not concerned for privacy as I do not think we have any. I'm shocked they lost money it seems highly profitable. Thanks for the video!

[@curtdare8129]

I'll throw myself out there. I have a criminal record so the government already has mine. Recently while in a drug rehab, I had what is called a Gene Sight test to see what antidepressants would work best for me. I have to say I was amazed and I finally got the right combination and doing pretty good.

[@hollyoswald7808]

This is the best use of genetic testing that I’ve heard yet!

[@canamrider07]

A guy I went to college with and stayed close friends with for over 30 years called me. He said that while he was a sophomore in HS he had sex with a girl. Over 30 years later he gets a call from a girl that turns out to be his daughter. He claimed he never knew the HS girl was pregnant let alone with his kid. He remembered that she had dropped out of school but nothing more. I’m try to comprehend what he was telling me. This guy is married and has 3 kids of his own. Then he drops the bomb, he is now also a Grandpa! I’m in shock. He then has to tell his family and while doing this his teenage daughter asks him if they are getting punk’d? Never use that thing...

[@SeanHartnett-t8c]

this is insane.

[@TheMasterpiecePD]

Don't have casual sex before marriage is the real lesson here

[@amqve]

genetic counseling student here - have always been very frustrated with 23andMe. it tends to mislead patients that theyre in the clear for certain conditions/cancers, but 23andMe doesnt test for all the well known mutations and genes that lead to a given condition. they test for a select few. we always recommend people get clinical testing with a provider to confirm results as well.

[@MsElizaRae]

23 and me is like another rainforest cafe

[@unemilifleur]

9:10 being serious could be useful if their end plan is partnerships with doctors and hospitals. For example, someone showing up with weird symptoms, the doctor using 23 and me to test if they have some genetic illness. And then checking the rest of the family

[@El_LA_Lobo]

Doctors already do tests lol

[@unemilifleur]

@@El_LA_Lobo I know but like… some doctors could partner with them

[@KaitouKaiju]

Nobody trusts corporations with our data nearly as much even though at this point we can't help most of it. But for DNA? Absolutely not

[@aaronlaluzerne6639]

Well it clear that 23 and Me isn't going to survive this decade. In my opinion, Ancestry Dbna does a better job at giving people information about their family history and genetics.

[@jeshirekitenkatt1212]

uhhh, weren't they selling this data to insurers who would then use it to decide how much people's insurance would cost or even what they'd cover based on what you were most likely to contract as you aged? as in, specifically tailoring your plan so that it doesn't cover what you're likely going to need it to? i imagine that would probably be why; i never got one in the first place specifically because i'd rather get sick and be able to get care rather than live with the anxiety of "maybe this will happen to me!" and then be denied care if/when i should need it. some things, i think, are just fine to leave as happy little surprises if it gives you less chance of being left to just f***ing perish.