The Decline of College Football in California

[@thetouchback]

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[@pentu7738]

switching back to football in ww1 stanford was political decition. rugby has the better value for Military training

[@Poboii650]

California JUCO’s are thriving right now. Insane amount of talent on those teams, but almost impossible to keep them in state when they transfer.

[@tre1six]

Exactly‼️ that's the flaw with this video... More than half of all JUCO programs are in California... California has 67 JUCO football teams, while the rest of the nation combined has just 53 teams... and in 2018 all 7 JuCOs football playing schools in Arizona dropped football

[@jayjayjames2332]

@@tre1six No one gives a fuck. JUCO is glorified club football. (Not talent wise, just relevance in the landscape of college football).

[@tre1six]

@@jayjayjames2332 Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers would disagree.. but 👍

[@Nihilitty]

​@@tre1six Cam Newton as well

[@JammerAma]

​@jayjayjames2332 no normal fan cares about JUCO but coaches looking for gems in the rough do.

[@theleap2946]

Miss the days of the low end California schools. Pacific was obviously my favorite, mainly because they really had the first modern offense in 1991 with Troy Kopp at Qb, the great and underrated Aaron Turner at wide receiver and Ryan Benjamin at running back. It was sad they ended. Years later I was working at a Circle K in 2005 and saw a guy wearing a pristine Long Beach St. shirt. He was surprised I even knew they existed. 😊

My uncle was qb at LBS around 82. Ron Moyer. I was 4. He had arm injury that ended his career there.

[@tkingsley5761]

Loved Copp, Turner and Benjamin. 10 years earlier I was in the stands at Bryce-Denny and saw Pacific upset South Carolina 23-21. I was a broke graduate student on the east coast, had no money, but in state of euphoria I sent a check for $23, most of my checking account balance and one dollar for each point, to the school, and Coach Toledo sent me a personal thank you note stating that he wished they had scored 1,000 points. In ‘90 I saw Tennessee run all over them at Neyland.

[@theleap2946]

@@tkingsley5761 Bob Toledo was definitely an original. Kinda sad people forget his contributions to coaching.

[@juanaboynkin1196]

Didn't UOP have a brick wall about 3 feet behind the back of the end zone?

[@sieteomw]

I play at Simpson University right now and I think it’s here to stay.

[@bp2608]

The pro football 49ers, founded in 1946, absolutely siphoned off interest from St. Mary's, USF, and Santa Clara. Especially as those three would often play Sundays, to avoid competing with Cal and Stanford on Saturdays. But the 49ers would suddenly dominate Sundays. To this day, the popularity of pro sports keeps diminishing Cal and Stanford. With the 49ers in Santa Clara, Stanford barely gets 15,000 of their fans to games and San Jose State is like 4,000. (If they were honest in announced attendance.) But Stanford and SJSU attendance problems pre date the 49ers moving to Santa Clara.

[@denisdooley1540]

I remember living out of the Residence Inn in Newark/Fremont for the fall winter and spring of 2011/12 and considered going to a Stanford game about simply because you could get a ticket for $16 or so. I think they downsized the stadium since then.

[@kariemmcfarlin5897]

I played 1 year for st Mary’s gaels the. Transferred to sjsu.. we had major attendance problems heading into late 90s. But hey, we helped the Ron Daynes, Paul smiths (utep), and Ladanian Tomlinson be seen by the nfl 😂

[@aegisofhonor]

forcing "mostly" D1 schools to not allow D3 football was a HUGE blow to California football. D1 Football is VERY expensive, even at 1AA level and these smaller schools could not afford to field a D1 program and so a lot of htem folded in the 80s when the NCAA forced many D3 football schools to make football D1 or not play at all.

[@theraplawyer]

Remember the Dayton rule. However, Redlands regularly beat San Diego in football in the 1970s.

[@jesusavalos4112]

This! Without this rule in place we probably would have had the Big West competing in D3. Having UCSD, UCI, UCSB, Long Beach, etc. competing in D3 (while other sports D1) football would have been awesome. I feel more colleges in California would have been down for that.

[@chrisguardiano6143]

Great & informative video. Love these documentary style videos about the history of sports. While we are talking about discontinued college football programs, one program that people may not know about is Simon Fraser University near Vancouver which was the only college football program to be based in Canada. It competed at the NAIA level from 1965-2001 & then made the switch to Canadian rules for 2002 & the U Sports league (Canada's version of the NCAA). Then in 2010 it decided to go back to the NCAA & played in the GNAC conference at the Division II level & in 2022 joined the Lone Star Conference for one season before the school decided to drop football entirely. The major reason for this was the enormous travel costs associated with playing road games especially given the fact that the majority of Lone Star Conference schools are located in Texas even though there was a decent amount of interest in the program. As for the other sports programs SFU has, they still compete in the GNAC for the moment, though there is a movement for those programs to rejoin U Sports so that they can compete with schools that are more equal from a competitive standpoint.

[@youtubeemployeesarestupid3464]

The *San Diego Toreros* should pass their knowledge to their WCC and Big West rivals of how to make football work in the *Pioneer Football League.*

[@williamford9564]

Definitely can vouch for the amount and quality of content on Wronged Sports.

[@bullfrogger1208]

Good, perhaps they can do a video on Fresno State. I can vouch for them. They were ignored for this one. The one bright spot in the whole mess. Almost looks like they meant to do it.

[@bloqk16]

Even when it comes to attendance for the college games, look how it has dwindled at Stanford University. Though official stats says 85K seating capacity for the old stadium, I recall in the 1960s into the '70s that reports of 90K for the Cal-Stanford game, or the Stanford-USC game was happening. Now, the Stanford Stadium at 50K seating capacity can't even fill those stands for The Big Game; which is very peculiar since the state's population has doubled from the 1960s to the present day.

[@DMAN-o2e]

Exactly, yet compare on the flip side, attendance to pro sports compared to the 70's. With exceptions like the current A's, pro sports venues are largely packed for most pro sports teams in the state, as compared to the 70's when most pro sports weren't packed most games, other than maybe weekends. Hell, I use to go to L.A. Kings games as a kid in the 70's, and even the games on a Saturday night most Sat's, maybe had 6,000-10,000. Calif has become more of a pro sports state.

[@GrizrazRex]

...but WHO are those doubling the population, and what sport do they prefer? That's the elephant in the room the video utterly fails at addressing. Demographics are destiny.

[@stampscapes]

Great vid. I went to Long Beach State in the late 80's-91. Went to a couple home games and it felt like going to my high school football games. Long Beach had a huge student body but was a commuter school back then. When the team, with George Allen, went 6-5 they were so excited that Allen got ice cold Gatorade shower on the field after that last game and he caught pneumonia and died. I don't know if that's what caused it but couldn't have helped as he was 70+ and was probably exhausted after that season after not coaching for years.

[@indanekwaffles7074]

Pacific would schedule to play Nebraska in Lincoln to get stomped by 70 points but earn a cool million dollars from the Huskers and that money would cover the football program for the entire year. Roar Tigers Roar! Meow.

[@JohnZoni]

Great work, guys! While watching this, I was reminded of the plight of United States International University (formerly Cal Western University) in San Diego. Their administration tried to raise the profile of the school via athletics in the 70s & 80s. They had some moments where they got some attention like hiring (or at least trying to) Sid Gillman as an administrator, their hockey team (yes, USIU played D-1 hockey) being featured in Sports Illustrated and Kevin Bradshaw being one of the top scorers in D-1 hoops in the early 90s, but eventually financial issues led to USIU shuttering their entire athletic program. Their story might be worth a video at some point.

[@theraplawyer]

I played against USIU in the 70's and they were hit and miss. It comes down to management of the athletic department. Where football has thrived just look at the athletic department and the athletic director and school president/Chancellor. The SCIAC has managed to continue. Where the SCIAC schools dropped football, Whittier and Occidental they have problematic athletic directors and problems with the president of the schools.

[@volbound1700]

Interesting that these issues impacted the Pac12 and its collapse as well. They didn't work together and now even the top schools are suffering. Cal and Stanford could be in trouble. USC Trojans are the only truly safe California school for Football.

[@theraplawyer]

Calling Pac -12 leadership incompetent is charitable.

[@GrizrazRex]

UCLA will NOT progress to a superleague of CFB. TV wants packed & rockin' on-campus stadiums. Miami will face a similar fate. EDIT: NW saw the writing on the wall, and knows its' market position for the longer term. That's why they are building a new Ryan Field now.

[@BYUCug-YouRinTheMatrix]

I absolutely loved how you laid this out! I played high school football in the East Bay Athletic League at San Ramon Valley High School. I was offered the chance to go to college and play as a walk-on at several small junior colleges back in the '90s. I really wanted to stick around the area and play, but there were very few options, so I know exactly what you're talking about. I think there are several reasons. California has struggled significantly with football at the collegiate level. There were times when football seemed too dangerous just a few years ago, and I think that slowed the growth of football in California. I also believe there is some "woke" attitude towards football. I know some will argue this, but I think it has also harmed the ability for college football to survive in California. There are too many things to do in California, and unless you have a consistently winning team, fans just split off and find other activities. It’s sad that only in states like Texas, where they have Friday Night Lights and the fans are ravenous and excited about the games, do you see such strong support for football. I absolutely loved my high school football experience and would recommend it to any high school kid. It bonded me with my friends and brought a sense of accomplishment in athletics. There are many reasons why California can’t sustain college football, but a significant part of it is the fan base. Just my thoughts....

[@LibraDiCaprio]

LOVE the long form content & the background music utilized throughout, awesome vid.

[@steeltalon2317]

Not only is the college football declining in California, but the best players from California are going to other states to play college football. When the arrogant PAC12 collapsed, the state of football in California collapsed too.

[@Poboii650]

Exactly! Talent goes where talent plays, and if you’re not already an established Power 5 program, Then it’s going to be hard to recruit in state talent when SEC and Big 10 programs have the upper hand.

[@steeltalon2317]

@@Poboii650 Well, frankly, I think California brought it on themselves with liberal politics, crime etc...What recruit, and his family, want to play in an environment like that? Look at USC or UCLA. You walk off campus and your in "the hood."

[@williamford9564]

Spot on. As college recruiting became a national rather than a regional activity, star players in California certainly look at schools in the SEC and Big 10 for example as a steppingstone to the pros.

[@PCSPounder]

@@steeltalon2317 The timeline you present is wrong. A lot of kids left California for the north first, as Washington and then Oregon started picking up their programs (I attended Oregon when it struggled in non-conference games with San Diego State and San Jose State, for instance). Roughly around then was the end of the “Lake Show.” They changed the focus of LA from “Dodgers and USC” to Dodgers and Lakers. When Shaq and Kobe arrived, that became “Lakers and Dodgers.” If you’re 6’4” or so as a teen in LA, you were more likely to see yourself as a Lakers guard mingling with the Laker Girls than you were a defensive lineman with the USC Song Girls. (Not that there isn’t a debate) When the national powers started recruiting nationally- as ESPN Gameday became a thing- the best players started realizing they needed to be on TV right after Gameday to be seen. That’s what recruits are telling local reporters. Besides… ask yourself if it makes sense to kick games off at 9 am out west. That hurt the programs. Then networks mostly decided they’d rather slot Pac-10 (and eventually Pac-12) games at 7:30 pm Pacific time, with some exceptions. Those of us who reside here hate that timeslot. That limited the conference’s overall exposure. Think I’m hearing rumblings from USC about their TV slots in the B1G already. IOW- the demise of the Pac happened for more reasons than just incompetence (there was plenty of that). The football participation numbers have been going down for a decade. But pro sports are bigger here, and the time zone is itself a problem.

[@Surgzown]

All of the California schools including USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford and the like are mostly California talent and always will be. That makes the original comment wrong.

[@Drew_Dittman]

My man. You were true to your word. Looking forward to watching this one brother. Big thanks from Sacto

[@thetouchback]

I have been working on this one for a month now. And there are more stories from it that will get their own video like UCSB in due time.

[@Mrpopularloner.]

I was on the Azusa pacific team in 2020, it was a sad day for all of us players and coaches. They told us the program was ending in a Zoom call meeting 🤦🏾‍♂️. put in cost of us traveling to different states and even Canada for games and covid, it was all a bad mix at a very bad time. There were other programs they could have cut that would have been fine. Football was a staple at apu and since it ended they have seen the student population decline at apu. Hope they get to see football again some day but man that meeting was bad.

[@thetouchback]

I can't even imagine that. It must have been especially tough for you guys seeing as there weren't any in-state alternatives to keep playing at the NAIA level.

[@joelsimeone5112]

I remember sitting in the press room in the Event Center in February 2020 for Coach Carlton to do his signing day announcements. He was so excited talking about all the guys coming in for his first recruiting class as HC. Ten months later the program gets shut down without him ever coaching a game

[@youtubeemployeesarestupid3464]

Speaking of jetlag, poor Hawaii. Always will be handicapped due to how far away they are from San Diego, California (let alone everyone else). If only the other Hawaii universities can get tons of booster money to upgrade to 1-A in order to help Honolulu have nearby rivals.

[@rockoorbe2002]

I hear Hawaii is kind of expensive, though.

[@ronhyde]

Nice job, young man. Great history lesson and worthy of discussion. Different times these days!

[@riccorich]

U know school like CS Fullerton and Pacific are on thrbold EA sports college 🏈 game College football USA 95 (Sega genesis)

[@bobbybrandon584]

Having tried both union and football how do we go about getting the California schools to pioneer college rugby league? But seriously, great video, Humboldt in particular broke my heart when they shut it down because they tried hard and trod a lonely path for awhile.

[@christopherwebb3517]

The crazy thing is, both Idaho and Montana were members of the proto-Pac12 for decades, and most of the rest of the conference almost never traveled to those schools to play a game. The rest of the conference was basically like, "Hey, if you want to play us, ever, you're going to have to come to us. Or don't. We don't care." Could you imagine a modern conference treating its own members like that?

[@theraplawyer]

They needed money.

[@anirudh_s17]

I think the reality is that most Californians prefer pro sports to college sports. When your state has 20+ pro sports franchises, it's harder to justify watching the college game.

[@eujr4SC]

Idk what that has to do with fielding a team. Most of the Big Sky, C-USA, MAC and the MWC (outside of Boise and Fresno) don’t really draw that well. Plus California has a really strong Juco league. You would think there would be more D2 and FCS programs.

[@jesseflores9087]

I prefer college football over NFL....I'm from California

[@Christian-eq6pq]

Can't say that when you have Florida where college sports thrive and at one point was bigger than most professional leagues. During the early-mid 2010's, Florida, FSU Football and to a lesser degree Miami were all bigger than all pro sports teams except the Heat before LeBron left.

[@williedouglass5137]

The NFL sucks.

[@Jorge.2004]

where did you get that number? i got 15 (including the A's) if you include mls 18. unless you also included nwsl and wnba which brings it to 22 (23 after valkeries start play)

[@dustinkennedy2238]

Hey homies thanks for a great collaboration loved all the knowledge brought to this project yall!

[@chrissao_502]

TWELVE teams in FBS, FCS, and D2 for California??? I think Louisiana has just as many playing in FBS and FCS.

[@gabrieljohnson4213]

How many schools besides LSU and Tulane have ever played major college football? I wouldn't count the Ragin Cajuns.

[@DuecePiece]

​@gabrieljohnson4213 I mean, the Ragins have certainly 'played' football- just never really won at it! 😂

[@chrissao_502]

​@gabrieljohnson4213 Don't really see the point in that question. Just pointing out how crazy it is that California has 12 schools playing in those levels when a state like little ole Loiusiana has almost as many.

[@PCSPounder]

@@chrissao_502 Azusa Pacific was the last true D2 football in the state. We’ll talk Lincoln when they can actually beat more than one D3 school… or the investigation shuts them down, whichever comes first. Someone else has cited the junior college programs (66 of them last year). A few games even ended up on cable when I lived in the Bay Area. Easy to forget they exist, but put it this way… Azusa Pacific was borrowing a stadium from one college. Some of the JC facilities are better than what the FCS programs (eh, we can quibble about Davis) have. Shrug.

[@David-wc1un]

Loving the content man keep up the grind

[@SippyCupAdventures]

A fascinating watch! Watching it in sections. Half way through. Love the old footage when shoulder pads actually existed.

[@jewellwilliamson9819]

GREAT video. I’ve always wanted to know what the issues were with CFB in Cali and this was a in depth story behind it

[@PCSPounder]

I don’t blame you for not mentioning Cal Poly-Pomona’s um, trouble going up to Portland State in 1980, going up against Neil Lomax and Mouse Davis’ run-and-shoot, losing 93-7. The week after, PSU beat Delaware State 105-0. But got beat by Idaho that year, which kept PSU out of the I-AA playoffs. On that note… it looks like you may have used footage between Sonoma State and Portland State in 1992. I was at that game… this was the latter part of Pokey Allen’s tenure. Portland State had been to several straight D2 playoffs, had been a semifinalist the year before, and got smacked that day in Rohnert Park by Larry Allen and the Cossacks. Three weeks later, Portland State went to Boise and beat then-I-AA Boise State. That may be what got Pokey Allen the Boise State job… and that’s when Tim Walsh left Sonoma to Portland State.

[@thetouchback]

I thought Pokey Allen got the Boise State job because of that PSU promo commercial where he is on elephant coining the phrase greatest show on turf decades before Kurt Warner and the Rams came along. This is something that needs to be talked about more. As for Walsh, he went on to be hired away from Portland State by a Portland guy, too. Stan Brock brought him in to be the OC at Army where they implemented that Brock Bone offense.

[@PCSPounder]

@@thetouchback Boise State didn’t need a circus show… they had support at their level and was aiming to get into 1-A/FBS at the time. Pokey left no stone unturned trying to get fans into what is now Providence Park. He worked his butt off just to win a bet to draw 10,000 a game one season. While he won the bet, those crowds didn’t sustain into the Tim Walsh era. Walsh did get PSU into the playoffs the last three years at D-2, but only once at 1-AA.

[@mjeezyca]

California football culture is that its a sport you play either your friends not necessarily to win the game. Texas is where football is religion, in California its a fun get together with friends

[@kickrugbyusa]

Great video!!!!!!❤

[@PharaohTX]

I feel California doesn’t fully invest in sports.. and many people here are not from California… California has so much going on compared to the south and Midwest

[@PCSPounder]

A California separated from the United States would take a significant chunk of Olympic medals out of the United States. Obviously there’s reasons for that. Football just ain’t hip for the west coast (qualifier: west of the Sierra and Cascades). There are obvious exceptions. But this region follows what younger people follow… and basketball and- brace yourself- soccer elicit more energy here… only Seahawks crowds are really involved at the NFL level. California has always been baseball-friendly and, as noted above, all the sports. Even men’s volleyball, which draws some fans in the Big West. Also of note: even Bill Walton knew that most of these programs existing in the same metro areas as pro teams was a problem for the colleges. There’s a reason or two Fresno has a bigger fan base than most of the PCAA schools.

[@howgoodistravel]

Viva Cascadia!

[@KingBeef87]

California’s the 2nd top state in NFL players, I think people in California love college football as long as there wining unfortunately also unlike the South or the Midwest California athletic directors aren’t willing to pay top dollar to bring in big name coaches, Covid made it worse Cali one of the few states to not participate in high school football that year, many players moved to other states to play.

[@PCSPounder]

@@KingBeef87 One of the things the video pointed out is that many of these programs DID bring in former pro coaches or big name players, and that did little to nothing for the program. Heck with COVID… these issues were evident before then. Thing is, like most states, when it comes to football, it’s USC and (imagine a smaller font) everyone else. UCLA and Stanford have had their moments, but can’t sustain them. Unlike most states, California (and the whole west coast) have far more transient populations… most are from elsewhere, more than the usual share of immigrants (since Korean tacos and Lebanese shwarma are kind of big in SoCal, eh, you know), and many end up priced out and leave. UCLA and Stanford are serious Sears Cup contenders more than they are football “players,” and that’s no accident. Not to mention that the Rams and the NFL have built a freaking palace, yet both the Rams and Chargers don’t necessarily have a home field advantage in the stands for most games. By the way, California is first in population, so it arguably doesn’t football to capacity… to what it could be. There’s measures of relativity to this discussion. But the biggest sports billboards in the state are when Oregon decides to recruit there… and when Stanford celebrates a Sears Cup.

[@josephinetracy1485]

California is a Hispanic state. Few racially Mongolian "Hispanics" excel in American football.

[@officialfumofeltingchannel1490]

Nah even in Cali soccer pales in comparison to the other sports, I agree with basketball and baseball tho

[@calexrose]

What a Northridge

[@chrisbacos]

Native Californian here. Now that all four of our Pac-12 teams have jumped ship to the Big Ten I have lost interest. Here's the sad part. Colleges are for learning. I want to find the geography genius who thought about this.

[@macgoldie7771]

California football officially ended the night of September 3rd when USC was curbstomped 52-6 by My Crimson and Creame

[@e-rab_malibu34]

UC Riverside. The home team. I came along too late to watch them play.

[@nickzuehlke5874]

Honestly I only know them from Bengal’s dynasty series.

[@theraplawyer]

UCR never supported their team. Much smaller Redlands out drew them and is still playing.

[@ajrichards1190]

It's obvious it's about money at the end of the day. Sacramento State and UC Davis aren't big markets for FBS football, University of Pacific, St Marys, University of San Francisco markets aren't really made for D1 FCS football because you have Cal, Stanford, and San Jose State in the Bay Area.

[@theraplawyer]

But the Sacramento area looks to host the Athletics try to keep them if Vegas does not work out.

[@joshsmith7692]

I think Silicon Valley is the culprit. They are intelligent, well educated..."nerds" if you will. They weren't into sports growing up, watched star trek and stuff like that. With the rising cost of living in Cali only Hollywood and silicon Valley can live there. The average person is moving elsewhere and college sports are not something those mentioned care about.

[@Surgzown]

40 million people live in California, making it the most populated state in America. Wrong

[@David-lx4yb]

As simple as that sounds, I think you are right. Los Angeles may have two NFL teams now, but remember that the city went twenty years without a team, and no one there gave a damn.

[@raybrown9513]

California became a large immigrant state. This doomed football. Only Blacks, whites and Polynesians play football in large numbers

[@jordjones]

Great video - the decline of football on the West Coast and the decimation of the Pac-12 is forewarning that we are no longer in the era of California's cultural dominance.

[@PCSPounder]

@@jordjones Or- in knowing that even Nick Saban has had to beg students to go to games AT ALABAMA- the next generation isn’t as big on football as generations long since graduated.

[@terranceramirez4816]

@@PCSPounder I have four nephews that live in two different states. All of them are soccer players and big time soccer fans who could care less about football. All of their friends are likewise. So I think there could be truth to that suggestion.

[@GrizrazRex]

...and we all see what direction Hollywood's influence is heading in; right down the tubes.

[@dfrnt_hues]

So crazy I joined my first Devy League and was telling the guy I love CFB but don’t have a team cause I’m from the Bay. Most winning programs in the bay are CSM & SF City College.

[@SunnyCue-ew5ow]

Watching this and in the middle of video I found out my long time cat was attacked by my neighbors dog. She didn't make it and I started getting sad and knew I had to change my mind and finished the video. It helped a lot, thanks! And as a once NCAA football athlete from so cal this video does hit home esp when I'll be going back to some rosebowl games and seeing a half full stadium. Crazy or not so crazy that people just don't really care, it's too hot or it could be watched from home and skip the horrible overpriced parking. Go UCLA

[@thetouchback]

I am really sorry to hear that about your cat. My family went through the exact same situation with our cat growing up and I know first hand just how painful that can be.

[@KornPop96]

Omg I haven't heard that Too Short song since like 1995! 😂😂😂 Damn good song. "So if you ever see me rolling in my drop top Caddy throw a peace sign and say, 'Hey pimp daddy'". 😂😂😂

[@ventura80503]

I bump that all the time

[@etrent2829]

I was the radio voice for Cal Poly (SLO) in the mid 90s... their first 3 seasons at Div 1-AA. Surprised to see how many of the teams that we faced back then are completely gone now.

[@youtubeemployeesarestupid3464]

Just imagine if the taxpayers of Santa Clara funded their Catholic University to reinstate Bronco football instead of wasting it on Levi's Stadium that was built for San Francisco weather. And I doubt the 49ers were in any danger of relocating since the Raiders were the ones that ended up relocating (again) anyway.

[@denisdooley1540]

Interesting episode. Yeah, we in the Northwest were sorry to see Humboldt football go, but their timing worked out because they probably wouldn't have survived 2 years of Covid restriction. Better to go out on your own terms. But all of Redding is the sticks (and they like it that way). Redding and Arcata would surely choose to be part of Cascadia if that ever came to be. BTW, Eastern Oregon University is based in La Grande, about an hour to the southeast of Pendleton. I don't believe there's anything but Blue Mountain Community College in Pendleton itself. But, yeah, you're flying into Pendleton (or Pasco, Washington) to get to EOU.

[@MrTakaMOSHi]

Enjoyed this a lot. You two could make a good podcast covering defunct sports

[@mattclark6482]

No mention of Cal Poly SLO? It's the school of John Madden. They won the DII national championship in 1980. Most of all it somehow continues to survive when no students (literally zero) go to the games (only local SLO residents). I think that's a perfect microcosm of the entire California football story.

[@af6456]

As proud Alum and Varsity letterman is men's basketball from UC Riverside (class of 99) I shed a tear for Highlanders football.

[@joesandoval755]

JOCKS VS NERDS COLLEGE FOOTBALL BREEDS CONSERVATISM The state of California figured this out a long time ago. How many colleges/ universities does Texas have even thou they have a smaller population .

[@Kingsized_Kevin]

Simpson is in Anderson, outside of Redding.. Sac State is MY TEAM!! #StingersUp

[@sactoindyfan]

It’s in Redding, off of 299 and Churn Creek Rd.

[@kirilgupta1500]

Fun fact a lot of these schools now have thriving Rugby Programs

[@theraplawyer]

Nice article. in California the SCIAC has done a fantastic job to ensure that college football on the division III level has increased.

[@Kingsized_Kevin]

New subscriber.. Good Content

[@jdey1989]

We have lots of JC programs also

[@MarkCzmic420]

Cool video about cali college sports. Do 1 on another state or states.

[@Metaintelligencia]

Don’t tell Amon Ra St. Brown

[@CyroAsseo]

OH MAN an 1 hour long video thank god I made cheesburgers

[@stuartmisfeldt3068]

No mention of San Francisco State University Gators and their renowned coach Vic Rowan? But there was a clip showing Cox Field.

[@theraplawyer]

SF State needed a better athetic director. I mean, so support for football? It's a great location with a great student body for recruiting. What a shame.

[@adameanglin]

BUT, California has more community college / junior college football teams than the rest of the nation combined.

[@theraplawyer]

Agreed. California has JUCOs and the rest of the country has 4 year public schools. Look at the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (WIAC). The schools have division 1 sized student bodies and play D3 sports. Whitewater has a 20k plus stadium for football. There are very few JUCOs elsewhere.

[@jameslong1360]

Great video as always Cheyenne. Wondering if you’re able to find any information on my grandpa, Jim Long, who played for Fresno State in the early 60s and was drafted by the 49ers in the 1964 NFL draft and the raiders in the AFL draft

[@thetouchback]

He got a mention in this SI article covering small colleges: vault.si.com/vault/1963/09/23/small-colleges The Fresno State library has also made digital versions of the student newspaper available and searchable. I found a few mentions of your grandfather in both September and November 1963. September: digitized.library.fresnostate.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/collegian/id/21425/rec/2 November: digitized.library.fresnostate.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/collegian/id/21425/rec/2 Oct. 1962: digitized.library.fresnostate.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/collegian/id/20990/rec/10 There are some interesting tidbits in there. Apparently Cecil Coleman demoted him and a few other players to the second team after spring ball in 1963. I found the most success searching Jim Long and then narrowing the dates to 1962 and 1963: digitized.library.fresnostate.edu/cdm/search/searchterm/jim%20long!1962/field/all!date/mode/all!all/conn/and!and/order/nosort/ad/asc

[@thetouchback]

And just to clarify, the benching had nothing to do with performance or other issues. It seems like Coleman tended to do this to players that were successful the previous season as a way to motivate them.

[@tkingsley5761]

Thanks!

[@thetouchback]

Much appreciated!

[@beebanks7706]

Whittier College recently ended their football program.

[@David-lx4yb]

No more Poets football? Bummer, I didn’t know they dropped their program.

[@theraplawyer]

@@David-lx4yb Whittier had a president who did not have a clue. Also, overall, Whittier has problems. Whittier dropped their Law School and has a tiny student body. PS Occidental has issues and dropped football. Real sad since they sent so many players to the professional ranks.

[@David-lx4yb]

@@theraplawyer That’s a shame! I didn’t know about Occidental dropping football either. I guess it’s only a matter of time until the remaining conference members go the same way due to lack of opponents.

[@theraplawyer]

@@David-lx4yb The SCIAC and Northwest conference are hanging. Redlands, Laverne and Cal Lutheran are hanging. They have had financial issues before and the pandemic did not help. It is strange that Whittier and Oxy dropped football as the football team is usually the largest group of students at the majority of Division 3 schools that have football. I think, keeping football is a must. You just need great administrators. Football is expensive even when you do not have scholarships but it can even make division III schools money. Chapman, Pacific (Oregon), George Fox, Simpson, and others are showing the way.

[@jungleghostsurvival]

Not here at FRESNO STATE "GO BULLDOGS BEAT MICHIGAN WOLVERINES" Playing NUMBER 1# TEAM IN THE NATION !!!!! AUG 31 2024

[@CrazyForCountryMusic]

WE PLAY BALL DIFFERENT HERE IN FRESNO

[@jimmykelly4138]

Loved your video , you are so right California football is dying ! To think the pac 12 or lack 12 as I call it went out of business last year says it all! It was basketball conference, only usc and Washington won a national championship in football, the rest of the lacktating 12 sucked in football. Notice how schools all around the country would just come to California and poach the rich talented players right from usc and ucla? Kids want to play in front of huge crowds and be on national tv .

[@youtubeemployeesarestupid3464]

And playing for "center" universities in conferences where most, if not all of your rivals are nearby helps in minimizing the jetlag. --- "Centers" for each major conference: SEC - Mississippi and Mississippi State Big "can't count past" 10 - Indiana and Purdue (not counting the "Pac" teams) Big "can't count past" 12 - Kansas State and Oklahoma State ACC - Wake Forest and North Carolina (again, not counting the "Pac" teams) And attending universities "next door" to those listed above is only a little more jetlag, so they would still work too.

[@DMAN-o2e]

The pac-12 isn't out of business though.

[@BBallRambling]

This was a great video. I am looking forward to more long form content!

[@STWRITES1]

California attracted the best coaches from other states to come to USC, Stanford, UCLA, UOP, and other schools after WWI.

[@Am-Not-Jarvis]

A lot of Cal States are commuter schools, so from a cultural standpoint, there is very little resistance to dropping an athletics program. The students don’t feel any attachment.

I'm typing this in Redwood park in Arcata right now. I didn't know HSU, now Cal Poly Humboldt, ever had a football team. Football isn't really a thing here. Arcata isn't in to it. If you can't smoke a joint in the stadium, nobody here is going. The end.

[@PCSPounder]

There are sports message boards in existence where people act like the Humboldt admin just had to throw a LITTLE more money at that program and they’d be swimming in glory. But your comment reflects more the regional expectation of Humboldt, give or take…

@@PCSPounder Arcata is tiny and super liberal. Money isn't the issue. Half of the school now believes that football is toxic mascalinity. At least half. And the rest would rather be doing anything but going to the game. The Saturday Farmers Market would beat it's attendence. Arcata is something else.

[@PCSPounder]

You understand that there’s graffiti in Eugene with more concentrated smack against Phil Knight than you will find anywhere on this globe? Yet the Oregon athletic department isn’t hurting for anything. Furthermore, it’s not like Eureka avoids the lumber industry. It’s not like there aren’t people of other persuasions in the area. Let’s just say, noting the alum status of the video creator, that I’m not necessarily sure that I wouldn’t rather be the AD in Arcata than in Moscow. When your alum base is centered in Boise and the roads aren’t exactly direct, there can be issues. Which might be to say that it might not just be hippies who are against football these days. I might be more tired of the stereotypes than anything.

[@johnnytroyano8870]

Nice jab at USC, but then again you did go to IDAHO? Were you waitlisted at both 'SC and UCLA. How many Heisman winners do Maryland and Rutgers have???? Guess what, USC HAS MORE than ALL the BIG 10 combined. Come on, reckless comment. You can do better than that.

[@Zay4Life]

Would love to see all these teams come back they would do well in the FCS

[@conorlauren]

I was a freshman at UC Santa Barbara in 1991-1992. We voted to end the football program and transfer that money from the college program to club sports and intramurals. Gaucho Football didn’t have a proud history and people just weren’t watching it. We didn’t care.

[@krookedshade9939]

Shameful

[@AHomelessShoe]

Imagine a world where rugby stayed the contact sport of choice on the west coast!

[@Am-Not-Jarvis]

I just wish the Pioneer League, or similar model, was more viable for a lot of the programs that couldn’t afford to move up when NCAA changed their rules in the 90s. Football for football’s sake. As a band nerd I would have loved it, even if the rest of the stands were empty.

[@thetouchback]

That's a great point. There is an entire ecosystem surrounding football at universities that no longer is available when teams go away. As you mentioned, there are the bands. Also, student media is another big aspect that I was given opportunities in. Sports science and medicine, event management, marketing, and the list goes on and on. Those are all lost.

[@CrazyForCountryMusic]

But when u come down to Fresno we get that ball rolling. If we had big stadiumsblike ucla and usc we'd be a powerhouse.

[@jeremybowman7126]

Just showing for decades most fans in cali don’t really care

[@stephenheath8465]

West Coast College Football didn't really made a mark on the national scene until the OJ Simpson USC Teams came on

[@bruinjer]

Whittier College ended recently (as well).

[@G_54-GMG]

There are no California teams in Division 2. They're all in Division 3

[@sieteomw]

the Lincoln Oaks are D2

[@PCSPounder]

@@sieteomw In name only.

[@adrinkingandcigarjourneywi4695]

Ain’t UC Davis and Sacramento St Div 2

[@theraplawyer]

@@sieteomw NAIA?

[@theraplawyer]

@@sieteomw They aspire to D2 now.

[@williamford9564]

1:00:08: THIS PLAY!!!!

[@AK-ug1md]

Sec se bias Big 10 - sc and ucla killed it off the game will never recover. California/Wc is the home of QB / offenses that is done they really fugged up

[@markcarbonaro6524]

This program doesn’t cover the attendance issues impacting everyone but USC and Fresno

[@youtubeemployeesarestupid3464]

California is "West Florida." Casual and flaky with tons of entertainment options. 49ers had blackouts before 1982 under the horrible ownership of Josephine and Jane Morabito. Eddie had to deal with the blackouts early on in his ownership due to the rebuilding phase. And of course, we all know about L.A.'s support for the Rams when they are a punching bag. Which makes the whole Chargers moving back to L.A. after a LOSING 1960-61 Rams squad drove a WINNING 1960-61 Chargers squad out of L.A., a whole lot worse. The only way you are going to see West Coast, Big West, Big Sky teams etc. reinstate football is for the taxpayers+boosters to commit and donate a LOT of money to the universities. Good luck with that! If San Diego State, Fresno State and even San Jose State play their cards correctly, they can rule California in the NCAA just as long as the Mountain West does NOT expand beyond their territory. PS - USC, UCLA, UC-Berkeley and Stanford are going to learn the hard way that money will NOT buyout jetlag. Remember, the pros and college are completely different animals. School work is required in college, the pros don't have to deal with that, and even the pros have done a much better job with their division realigning in the 21st century compared to the horror of the second half of the 20th century.

[@youtubeemployeesarestupid3464]

Take a look at some of these horrible division realignments in the latter half of the 20th century for the NFL: --- 1969-70 *NFL/NFC Capitol East* Dallas Cowboys Washington Redskins/Commanders New Orleans Saints Philadelphia Eagles - *NFL/NFC Century East* Cleveland Browns 1.0 New York Giants St. Louis Cardinals Pittsburgh Steelers - *NFL/NFC Coastal West* Baltimore Colts 2.0 Los Angeles Rams Atlanta Falcons San Francisco 49ers - *NFL/NFC Central West* Detroit Lions Green Bay Packers Chicago Bears Minnesota Vikings - *AFL/AFC East* New York Jets Houston Oilers Boston/New England Patriots Miami Dolphins Buffalo Bills - *AFL/AFC West* Denver Broncos San Diego Chargers Kansas City Chiefs Oakland Raiders Cincinnati Bengals --- 1988-89 to 1994-95 *NFC East* Dallas Cowboys Washington Redskins/Commanders Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals Philadelphia Eagles New York Giants - *NFC Central* Detroit Lions Green Bay Packers Chicago Bears Minnesota Vikings Tampa Bay Buccaneers - *NFC West* New Orleans Saints Los Angeles Rams (of Anaheim) Atlanta Falcons San Francisco 49ers - *AFC East* New York Jets Indianapolis Colts New England Patriots Miami Dolphins Buffalo Bills - *AFC Central* Cleveland Browns 1.0 Houston Oilers Cincinnati Bengals Pittsburgh Steelers - *AFC West* Denver Broncos San Diego Chargers Kansas City Chiefs Los Angeles Raiders Seattle Seahawks --- 1996-97 *NFC East* Dallas Cowboys Washington Redskins/Commanders Arizona Cardinals Philadelphia Eagles New York Giants - *NFC Central* Detroit Lions Green Bay Packers Chicago Bears Minnesota Vikings Tampa Bay Buccaneers - *NFC West* New Orleans Saints St. Louis Rams Atlanta Falcons San Francisco 49ers (North) Carolina Panthers - *AFC East* New York Jets Indianapolis Colts New England Patriots Miami Dolphins Buffalo Bills - *AFC Central* Baltimore Ravens Houston Oilers Cincinnati Bengals Pittsburgh Steelers Jacksonville Jaguars - *AFC West* Denver Broncos San Diego Chargers Kansas City Chiefs Oakland Raiders Seattle Seahawks --- Just another reason why I hate politics! PS - I vote 1969-70 as the worst just for the stupid Capitol and especially Century division names alone.

[@youtubeemployeesarestupid3464]

Now let's look at some horrible NHL realignments: --- 1972-73 to 1973-74 *NHL East* Boston Bruins New York Islanders Vancouver Canucks Buffalo Sabres Montreal Canadiens New York Rangers Detroit Red Wings Toronto Maple Leafs - *NHL West* (Oakland) California Golden Seals Pittsburgh Penguins St. Louis Blues Atlanta Flames Los Angeles Kings Philadelphia Flyers Minnesota North Stars Chicago Blackhawks --- 1974-75 to 1975-76 *NHL Charles Adams (Northeast) Prince Of Wales (East)* (Oakland) California Golden Seals Boston Bruins Buffalo Sabres Toronto Maple Leafs - *NHL James Norris (Central) Prince Of Wales (East)* Montreal Canadiens Pittsburgh Penguins Washington Capitals Detroit Red Wings Los Angeles Kings - *NHL Lester Patrick (Atlantic) Clarence Campbell (West)* Atlanta Flames New York Islanders Philadelphia Flyers New York Rangers - *NHL Conn Smythe (Pacific) Clarence Campbell (West)* St. Louis Blues Minnesota North Stars Kansas City Scouts Chicago Blackhawks Vancouver Canucks --- 1980-81 *NHL Charles Adams (Northeast) Prince Of Wales (East)* Boston Bruins Buffalo Sabres Quebec Nordiques Toronto Maple Leafs Minnesota North Stars - *NHL James Norris (Central) Prince Of Wales (East)* Montreal Canadiens Pittsburgh Penguins Hartford Whalers Detroit Red Wings Los Angeles Kings - *NHL Lester Patrick (Atlantic) Clarence Campbell (West)* Calgary Flames New York Islanders Philadelphia Flyers New York Rangers Washington Capitals - *NHL Conn Smythe (Pacific) Clarence Campbell (West)* St. Louis Blues Winnipeg Jets 1.0 Edmonton Oilers Chicago Blackhawks Colorado Rockies Vancouver Canucks --- Holy beejeezus, these divisions were horrible! While naming your divisions after people can allow you to have any division realignment that isn't geographically accurate, even in the pros you still need to keep the teams as close together as possible since too many faraway opponents will cause the jetlag to catch you sooner or later. Naming after people is also a touchy subject too. I wonder how the Montreal Canadiens felt playing in a division named after a BOSTON BRUINS owner (starting with 1981-82)? And I'm sure the Calgary Flames would blow a gasket if the Pacific was ever renamed to the Wayne Gretzky division. Having a division named after Conn Smythe with the Maple Leafs NEVER ONCE playing in that division is stupid too! Should have named that division after a Chicago Blackhawks guy, then go back to geography in 1981-82 since the Blackhawks would no longer be a "Pacific" team anymore that season. And having the West named after then president/commissioner Clarence Campbell reeks ego trip. For once, I agree with Gary Bettman in persuading the owners to go back to geographical names in 1993-94. Should have gone back in 1981-82 when they fixed their divisions that season. I decided not to include the WHA seasons since they didn't switch to a NHL/WHA alignment in 1979-80 due to only four teams surviving from that poorly runned league. Finally, I would go with 1974-75 to 1975-76 as the worst one. Oakland and L.A. playing in divisions full of Eastern Time Zone teams only, and not even as division rivals too! Need I say more?

[@youtubeemployeesarestupid3464]

NBA's worst division realignments: --- 1949-50 *NBA East* Boston Celtics Washington Capitols Philadelphia Warriors Syracuse Nationals Baltimore Bullets 1.0 New York Knicks - *NBA Central* Minneapolis Lakers Fort Wayne Pistons St. Louis Bombers Chicago Stags Rochester Royals - *NBA West* Waterloo Hawks Sheboygan Redskins Anderson Packers Denver Nuggets 1.0 Tri-Cities Blackhawks Indianapolis Olympians --- 1976-77 to 1977-78 *NBA Atlantic East* Boston Celtics New York/New Jersey/Brooklyn Nets Buffalo Braves Philadelphia 76ers New York Knicks - *NBA Central East* Cleveland Cavaliers Atlanta Hawks San Antonio Spurs Washington Bullets/Wizards New Orleans Jazz Houston Rockets - *NBA Midwest West* Chicago Bulls Indiana Pacers Kansas City Kings Milwaukee Bucks Detroit Pistons Denver Nuggets 2.0 - *NBA Pacific West* Golden State Warriors Portland Trailblazers Los Angeles Lakers Seattle Supersonics Phoenix Suns --- 1989-90 *NBA Atlantic East* Boston Celtics New Jersey/Brooklyn Nets Washington Bullets/Wizards Philadelphia 76ers Miami Heat New York Knicks - *NBA Central East* Cleveland Cavaliers Atlanta Hawks Milwaukee Bucks Detroit Pistons Orlando Magic Chicago Bulls Indiana Pacers - *NBA Midwest West* Utah Jazz Dallas Mavericks San Antonio Spurs Denver Nuggets 2.0 Minnesota Timberwolves Houston Rockets Charlotte Hornets 1.0 - *NBA Pacific West* Golden State Warriors Los Angeles Clippers Portland Trailblazers Sacramento Kings Los Angeles Lakers Seattle Supersonics Phoenix Suns --- The NBA has got to be the laziest, most inept league when it comes to division realigning! Can't even make simple adjustments when it wouldn't harm another team that may not want to leave the division. And I certainly haven't forgotten about the politics too. 1949-50 with all those "unknown" cities really got screwed over with Indianapolis, Anderson and Sheboygan in a division that Chicago, St. Louis and Minneapolis should have been in. Really hurted Denver and Rochester since they were the "islands" of their divisions. To perfectly prove my point of someone that could have escaped the wrong division they were in without upsetting someone else, the Washington Bullets in the Central Division despite the Atlantic having one team LESS than the Central. The ineptitude of keeping Houston and New Orleans while adding San Antonio to the East, with Indiana, Detroit and Chicago trapped in the West in 1976-77. The Phoenix Suns have got to be the Dallas Cowboys of basketball with them constantly REFUSING to leave their division when it's a necessity. First it was the Sacramento Kings trapped in the Midwest for their first three seasons in Sacramento, then the Miami Heat forced to play their first season in the Midwest, after that is the Vancouver Grizzlies playing their entire Vancouver existence (6 seasons) in the Midwest until they moved closer to their division rivals by relocating to Memphis, and now, since 2008-09 that continues as of NOW, the Portland Trailblazers trapped in the Northwest that basically/unofficially became the Midwest again thanks to Seattle's sinful relocation to Oklahoma City. All because the Phoenix Suns are selfish bastards! Which comes back to 1989-90. With the addition of Orlando and Minnesota, Miami can now escape to the Atlantic with Minnesota taking their spot in the Midwest. From there, all that needs to be done is to move Charlotte to the Central to make room for Orlando in the Atlantic, but instead, the idiots moved Charlotte to the Midwest with Orlando ending up in the Central for no good reason! Finally, while Charlotte would end up in the Central in 1990-91, Orlando was actually placed in the Midwest that season before finally moving to the Atlantic for 1991-92. Incompetent morons the NBA are. Hard to say which is the worst one of these three, but I'll go with 1989-90 as there was absolutely no reason for Charlotte to be in the Midwest to begin with. It also would have spared Orlando from playing in the Midwest as well next season.

[@youtubeemployeesarestupid3464]

Major League Baseball is the lucky ones as usual. In fact, it's only the National League side that was a mess. The American League since the division expansion from day 1 in 1969 has been perfect/near perfect. Because of that, I won't waste time posting AL realignments. --- 1969-1992 *National League East* St. Louis Cardinals Pittsburgh Pirates Montreal Expos Chicago Cubs Philadelphia Phillies New York Mets - *National League West* Atlanta Braves San Diego Padres Los Angeles Dodgers Cincinnati Reds Houston Astros San Francisco Giants --- As for Colorado and Miami, Florida in 1993, at least Colorado fills a gap in-between the California teams and Houston, Cincinnati and Atlanta, making things a little easier for all six rivals of Colorado in the Astros, Reds and Braves final season in the NL West. Miami, Florida's addition didn't really have too much effect on the NL East teams except for a slightly longer divisional trip. Miami's one and only season with the Cubs, Cardinals and Pirates as division rivals. You can thank the Chicago Cubs' politics for not having the balls to play in a division with three California teams. At least St. Louis had balls to do it, but since the Cardinals are the Cubs biggest rival, then TWO Eastern Time Zone teams get to suffer instead of one. Just another reason to be angry at the Cleveland Indians/Guardians for allowing the Cubs to break their drought BEFORE all the remaining NL West teams the Cubs screwed over for 25 seasons won a World Series. The Houston Astros (won a couple after the Cubs 2016 win), San Diego Padres and Colorado Rockies even if the latter only had Houston, Cincinnati and Atlanta as division rivals for one season. Also, the Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals is the only NL East team from the Cubs and Cardinals NL East days to win a World Series after 2016. Poor fellas.

[@pasatroj]

You are missing ALOT. USC ND was huge. 32 was huge. The Coliseum was made fore SC ans the Olympics.

[@huejaynus3134]

Even high school fooball participation is down in Cali. Hell, alot of parents want it banned. Shits insane

[@donedeald8882]

I saw a study that it went up 3% in 2023 in Cali ,probably cause of NIL

[@PCSPounder]

@@donedeald8882 Q: is there NIL at high school level in California? It’s legal in Oregon.

[@donedeald8882]

@@PCSPounder I mean possible NiL deals in college that’s why HS participation slightly went up

[@PCSPounder]

@@donedeald8882 I knew that’s what you meant. I’m saying we’ve only seen the beginning of this… or maybe the end of all school sports if this corrupts everything.

[@mattlozano599]

Stingers Up!

[@bulldogsbob]

The only area in California that really are about college football in The Fresno Central valley

[@PCSPounder]

@@bulldogsbob Up until the last couple years, FSU wasn’t drawing crowds like they did in the 90s. Not that Fresno has anything near a robust economy.

[@stevenandrewsolis2729]

Go dogs

[@josephinetracy1485]

@@stevenandrewsolis2729 Beat Taft!

[@theraplawyer]

Please. Fresno fired their Athletic Director when he could not get boosters to support upgrading their stadium. Fresno has weak facilities. PS, just look at Bakersfield. They should have football and never will.

[@igorlobkovenko9480]

It's probably the reason that the Pac-12:is dead

[@stischer47]

And colleges in Texas are adding football.

[@rockoorbe2002]

One of them is UTPB out of Odessa, Texas which started around 2015 or so. Which, given that the Midland-Odessa area is home to two of the most storied hs football programs in all of Texas, Midland Lee and Permian (of Friday Night Lights fame), I'm really surprised it took UTPB this long to field a football team.

[@kylea.185]

Humboldt State Lumberjacks

[@fpanadero2626]

At this point, everybody cares more about "futbol" than "football"...

[@pnwsp21stcentury81]

Yeah for some reason Jack in this video he sounds jack box from the jack in the box commercials.

[@SportZFan4L1fe]

I was gonna watch all of this until I saw it was over an hour long. Fvck that. 🙄

[@josephinetracy1485]

You could download the audio and listen on an iPod during the day. I don't need to sit and watch all the pictures for every video. I go though 30 hours of audio in a few days.

[@christianchellis9057]

It’s good that college football is on the decline. Those players are under way too much pressure.

[@Kingsized_Kevin]

Title IX killed California College Football

[@Kingdho]

The top programs are large schools. The large schools in CA get $ from some of the wealthiest alums in the world, not SpOrTs 🤪. CA fans don’t care bc they don’t care. A cute little UC blah blah vs UScStanff bladdy blagg will suffice as a nostalgic whoopie doodle thing.

[@bloqk16]

The large schools also get a piece of the action from TV revenue. I've heard in some cases even the large schools with mediocre teams can earn a million dollars per-season from the athletic conference's shared revenue from television contracts.

[@macallarichards3806]

High school football players leave n go out of state

[@Surgzown]

Yeah that happens in every state

[@Surgzown]

Not sure where you are seeing this “supposed decline of football in California” when California has a ton of things to do for activities. Now take Louisiana, Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, North Carolina, Kentucky etc. Those Southeast states have nothing to do. That’s why there’s only football there

[@rockoorbe2002]

Maybe that's why football is declining. Reading comprehension is very important so you don't write nonsense.

[@diazda05]

bear down all day