The Decline of Star vs the Forces of Evil Explained by Top Gear

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That GF FAN

That GF FAN

Күн бұрын

As you do when you have a cold, I was rewatching Top Gear episodes and realized that the scene where Clarkson's Toyboata sinks reminded me of the decline in quality if a show I once really liked. Then this happened!
As is with all videos I make, this is for joke purposes and not to be taken seriously. If you still like Star or think it was a great show, that's great. This video is just for fun (though FR Amphibia's finale was way better)
Original Top Gear video: • The Car Boat CHALLENGE...
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@Anonymous-mo7oe
@Anonymous-mo7oe 2 жыл бұрын
shipping and romance isn't a bad thing, but star vs. really uh. showed how bad a show can be when you shift the focus from a magical princess learning to live life on earth and be responsible to a teen romance that even glee would ask to tone it down
@Mediados
@Mediados 2 жыл бұрын
No problem with a well written relationship, as long as it stays where it belongs, far away from the main plot. Doesn't make the army of shippers who see homosexuality in a weird look any better though...
@lollybowser
@lollybowser 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mediados Thing is it was not well written. Starco was forced and incredibly awkward when it happened and for some reason it took up so much plot space.
@Mediados
@Mediados 2 жыл бұрын
@@lollybowser Yeah I havn't watched Star but I watched a video about it today cause I wanted to know why people use it as a bad example. It's actually impressive how they managed to fuck up so hard.
@Aflay1
@Aflay1 2 жыл бұрын
It was a decent ship. The problem was they turned too hard toward the end.
@lollybowser
@lollybowser 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mediados I'd say "watch it yourself" but no, stay away. It's boring, frustrating, moronic... The whole season is garbage and the last episode is an insult to the audience. I'm still hella creeped out about the episode where everyone who sees Marco and her baby sister assumes that it's his and Star's baby like they aren't fking children themselves. The writers really thought they were being funny there.
@Sword_Man_YT
@Sword_Man_YT 2 жыл бұрын
I’m just glad Amphibia didn’t share this fate…
@adadasdasdasd5940
@adadasdasdasd5940 2 жыл бұрын
With pain in my heart i must to agree with you. Even if the Amphibia final was sad, it was also good
@Froggy_Turtles
@Froggy_Turtles 2 жыл бұрын
Me too dude
@NerdOwlLover487
@NerdOwlLover487 2 жыл бұрын
@@Froggy_Turtles I just finished watching Amphibia and I 1,000,000% agree
@Froggy_Turtles
@Froggy_Turtles 2 жыл бұрын
I know it’s bittersweet and i loved but Star’s ending was just MEH
@Bacon.Bits.
@Bacon.Bits. 2 жыл бұрын
@@NerdOwlLover487 Same. I have no output for these feelings rn, the whole point is about letting go but I don't wanna!!!!
@JinxSanity
@JinxSanity 2 жыл бұрын
Mina Loveberry's treatment will always frustrate me. Here is this character that was described as being a "homage" to Sailor Moon, the main inspiration for the show, and yet she ends up being a joke, is shown in a flashback to have depth and ends up being blame as the sole reason for the Monster hate when Solaria was the most bloodthirsty and created Magic Mina. And don't forget how the show tended to portray humans as being the aggressive side when Eclipsa's husband burned an entire town and ate the King. Really the entire tone and theme shift came out of nowhere.
@gracekim25
@gracekim25 2 жыл бұрын
It’s because Solaria is long dead
@andrewdiaz3529
@andrewdiaz3529 2 жыл бұрын
Star's mom declared she would eradicate any significantly large gathering of monsters she found and would kill any prominent monster leaders she could, and she got popular support for that policy. Monsters were shown to live nonviolent lives when they had a chance and didn't fall under the sway of any monster warlords who rose to power during times of war against humans. There was a lot that could have been said, but nope; Starco and killing magic for being "unequal" was more important
@crystalpokedude4329
@crystalpokedude4329 2 жыл бұрын
Mina loses Impact when she's taken out as a joke by Meteora, a character Star went toe to toe with and Eclipsa stomped. Meteora power scaling wise should be a non issue.
@ThatGFFAN
@ThatGFFAN 2 жыл бұрын
Here's hoping The Owl House gets as good a finale as Amphibia even though it was cut short!
@randorantos
@randorantos 2 жыл бұрын
It deserves to have one. Hopefully the extra but of time in each extended episode helps
@jacobb4795
@jacobb4795 2 жыл бұрын
I think it will feel a little rushed no matter what happens
@randorantos
@randorantos 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobb4795 true but let's just hope it won't be as bad as svtfoe
@Bacon.Bits.
@Bacon.Bits. 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched Amphibia for the first time, I haven't been this continuously sad after an ending since RDR2. Just the final minute plus the credits is enough to make me bawl. Gonna miss it so muchhhhhh. Owl House will probably do the same to me since I've been watching that for a while. I'm not ready to let go...
@ordinarygamer2655
@ordinarygamer2655 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bacon.Bits. even though the finale wasn’t good, I still felt the same way with Star
@ArendAlphaEagle
@ArendAlphaEagle 2 жыл бұрын
They really should've stuck to Jarco instead of trying to make Starco work in the most asinine and retcon-ny way. And they shouldn't have merged Earth and Mewni either. I'm glad Amphibia realized that was a bad idea and kept the two realms in its series separate at the end. Also, Milo Murphy's Law's Season 2 finale aired in the same weekend as Star Vs's series finale. It's much better, and Milo deserves a Season 3, dammit.
@bumblebeeproductions1673
@bumblebeeproductions1673 2 жыл бұрын
1) Yes, justice for Milo Murphy’s Law 2) I totally agree! I was into Starco during season 1 and 2 but then i realize that Jarco and Tomstar (post Tom redemption arc) should have been the endgames and they should have made Star and Marco have a platonic/found family siblings relationship
@ElsaLouiseSinger
@ElsaLouiseSinger 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Milo Murphy's Law needs more recognition! I still liked the ending for SVTFOE but I can agree that it could've ended better as well. I think the only ships I liked were Tomstar and Globgor and Eclipsa. I only see Marco, Star and Janna as friends. And there needs to be more represented of platonic relationships because making kids think they need to be romantically involved with someone because they think that person is special, which could totally be platonic, isn't the best way to show relationships. Like, I've never really had crushes in my life, I just think someone's cool and interesting and I'd want to hang out with them, but if I watched Star and Marco, totally have best friend energy, when I was younger and saw that, I'd be tricking myself into thinking I was "in love" with someone who I saw as a great platonic pal.
@ArendAlphaEagle
@ArendAlphaEagle 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElsaLouiseSinger ...yeah I'm not a Janco shipper either. Like I insinuated at, I'm more into Jarco, which is to say Marco/Jackie (the writers REALLY did Jackie dirty in Seasons 3 and 4, btw)
@ElsaLouiseSinger
@ElsaLouiseSinger 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArendAlphaEagle Oh, I thought you were talking about Marco and Janna XD I forgot about Jackie oof
@randorantos
@randorantos 2 жыл бұрын
Yea just comparing finales is like comparing a dumpster fire in the sun to a nice evening.
@jarrethoglesbee4596
@jarrethoglesbee4596 2 жыл бұрын
One major flaw indeed😂🤣😂 I couldn't even get to the end of that show sadly. It used to be my favorite but when they gave the characters other cute and healthy realtionships and then ripped them both apart to shove them together I couldn't keep watching.
@ra1lgunz268
@ra1lgunz268 2 жыл бұрын
If they wanted starco to be the end game. Startom shouldn't have happened again in season 3 or even the whole love triangle shouldn't happen. Throw all of that in the garbage but keep tom's character developement.
@kemith
@kemith 2 жыл бұрын
exactly. it was so upsetting, both tomstar and jarco were great couples and i wish they just let starco be a platonic duo :(
@spyro2002
@spyro2002 2 жыл бұрын
I watched season 4 as it was airing and I can only describe the experience as that metaphor of the frog that is swimming in a pot with water and you slowly turn up the heat so it never realizes it reaches to the point where it's boiling to death
@ArendAlphaEagle
@ArendAlphaEagle 2 жыл бұрын
@@spyro2002 I didn't bother, I was kind of disinterested at this point and heard most things from others. Imagine how baffled I was when I encountered a Tumblr post from after "Here to Help" that stated it revealed Marco didn't actually love Jackie at all and actually was in love with Star the whole time... you know, which COMPLETELY CONTRADICTS with episodes from earlier seasons such as Season 2's "Naysaya" - which explicitly confirms that Jackie was Marco's true love at the time! God, the whole Starco scene was groan-inducing and was very clearly made this way because the writers wrote themselves in a corner and wanted Starco to happen SO badly that they were too damn stubborn to realize Starco couldn't work anymore at this point (not helping is the fact that their continuity coordinator for 3 and a half seasons is _long gone from the show_ at this point as well, as is the role for continuity coordinator in general!). And then there's "Cleaved". I was actually watching Milo Murphy's Law Season 2 instead of Star Season 4. Some people are pretty mixed on it because of Doofenshmirtz essentially becoming a secondary character in MML, but I thought Season 2 was pretty great! It basically confirmed Milanda in such great episodes like "Cake 'Splosion" and "Managing Murphy's Law", and MML in general just stuck to characters having only one love interest (e.g. Milo with Amanda, or Melissa with Zack) instead of making endless love triangles and love dramas. Also glad they didn't pair main characters Milo and Melissa together, something that SvtFoE did with Star and Marco (something I THOUGHT Star wouldn't do all the way back in Season 1). Cavendish and Dakota are also funny, and I personally found Doof pretty funny in MML too.
@Mediados
@Mediados 2 жыл бұрын
"Well it was a good idea. It had only one major flaw." Perfection
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 Жыл бұрын
Using Top Gear as a meme template for a popular Disney TV show. Truly a man of culture. But let's face it, there should have been a crossover between the two: Top Gear Mewni Special. The legendary trio would change the kingdom for the better, without them even intending to. All they have to do drive for a few meters and every single character would have been astonished and wowed by their charisma and eventually work towards peace so that they can all enjoy more Top Gear.
@bengilhooly3616
@bengilhooly3616 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the full show but SVTFOE should've done what TOH did (even though SVTFOE came before it). People say they focus too much on Lumity but IMO they know how to give us just the right amount of Lumity throughout the show instead of every episode being about Lumity when it still has a story to tell
@SprigPlantar8934
@SprigPlantar8934 2 жыл бұрын
No I totally disagree Both SVTFOE and TOH focus so much on romance to the point where it becomes unbearable for me to watch This is why Amphibia is one of my favorites cartoons of all time Shows where romance/shipping isn't the main focus is more enjoyable to watch than shows where they show romance in your face almost every episode
@ThatGFFAN
@ThatGFFAN 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. With Star it felt like way too much shipping occurred where as in TOH it feels a lot more balanced. Plus lumity is a way better ship and also is a non toxic one while Starco was a nightmare that ruined the show.
@bengilhooly3616
@bengilhooly3616 2 жыл бұрын
@@SprigPlantar8934 I also disagree. TOH doesn’t focus too much on Lumity. Seriously, have you watched the show fully? If you have, then surely you’d be able to mention something other than Lumity
@bengilhooly3616
@bengilhooly3616 2 жыл бұрын
@@SprigPlantar8934 Lumity is not the main focus in TOH, and it doesn’t become unbearable to watch. Have you even watched the show?
@arabellasterwerf7980
@arabellasterwerf7980 2 жыл бұрын
@@SprigPlantar8934 it's ok that the romance bothered you, but Lumity isn't the focus point of the series. It can occasionally have a focus especially within certain episodes. But Lumity isn't the only thing going on within the show. The plot doesn't stop because of Lumity. I mean, there are only three episodes in total within Season 2B that focus on Lumity as a relationship within the episode A main plot. Even then, Amity and Luz as characters are explored outside of the romance too! Reaching Out is a good example of that. The rest of Season 2B has either Lumity as a subplot or just has small moments within an episode or Amity doesn't even show up at all. Like Luz sending hearts to Amity. But overall the show doesn't just focus on Lumity. The plot never stops throughout the show and even has episodes where Amity isn't even in many episodes for a period of time. Also, Amity and Luz don't even get together until the later part of Season 2A. Before that, Season 2A focused more on the family dynamics than anything else or by strengthening the character arcs of many of our characters. Even when Lumity has a moment to shine in Season 2A, there are usually other character arcs for other characters getting developed like in Knock, Knock, Knockin On Hooty's Door with Eda, Hooty, and King. There are characters who get focus besides the main couple! Amity only appears in 4 episodes throughout Season 2A in total. Also, Raeda exists and Raine Whispers is a part of the main plot. Raine especially helps strengthen Eda as a character throughout Season 2 especially by giving Eda stakes within the fight with Belos. There is all the found family throughout the show too! There is a lot more going on within The Owl House than the romantic relationships. I mean, Hunter's whole arc throughout Season 2 is a good example of that! Honestly, the most important relationships on the show is the Eda, Luz, and King family bond. It's their dynamics with each other that are built up the strongest throughout the show. While the show has some romance throughout, it isn't the main driving force of The Owl House.
@SprigPlantar8934
@SprigPlantar8934 2 жыл бұрын
Star Vs. The Forces of Evil according to this video: Seasons 1 and 2: We are making amazing progress!!! Season 3: Well, we are having some problems, but we are still going relatively well Season 4: SOMEONE HELP US, WE ARE COLLAPSING!!!!!
@ThatGFFAN
@ThatGFFAN 2 жыл бұрын
That's basically the show bang on. Season 1 and 2 were great. Season 3 began to struggle but still had potential. By season 4 though...it all fell apart.
@Froggy_Turtles
@Froggy_Turtles 2 жыл бұрын
This will forever live rent free in my head
@no1ryomafan585
@no1ryomafan585 2 жыл бұрын
Ah the memories. I remember watching star season 1 finale the day it aired at my dads old house-a place I miss dearly because I had so many fond Disney cartoon memories there as I watched the premiere of tale of two Stan’s and the last mabelicorn there as well-and being so excited for where the series was gonna go. Cue to me missing the rest of the shows episodes, only finding out wtf happens online and watching it go down the drain. So yeah wouldn’t say I was a big fan of star but if that doesn’t hurt a tad bit. ; )
@ThatGFFAN
@ThatGFFAN 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I was more or less forced into watching it given many people I knew in 2017 were fans. While I did somewhat like it, it never was my kind of show. Watching it decline was painful given while I wasn't the biggest fan, many were and for them it was probably a very painful thing to see.
@no1ryomafan585
@no1ryomafan585 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatGFFAN I feel bad for star fans tbh. Like I have issues with GF ending but would I say it’s a bad finale? Not at all, it could’ve been better in some areas but it is definitely a good send off to the series. Star finale just ooo, I don’t know how anyone could be happy with that, especially if they were a huge fan of it. Really hope the owl house doesn’t get the same fate because of Disney making the dumb decision of robbing season 3 of being a actual season but afaik Owl house didn’t fall to the same issues as star so it’ll probably be decent. (But not to GF or Amiphiba levels of a good ending, which sucks 😞)
@ordinarygamer2655
@ordinarygamer2655 2 жыл бұрын
@@no1ryomafan585 star season 3 was definitely underrated and deserves to be talked about more, especially the season 3 finale
@franciscopedraza7534
@franciscopedraza7534 Жыл бұрын
​@@no1ryomafan585 Watched the Owl house series finale, and I believe it's just as good, I even dare say better then Amphibia's.
@MANGLORIOUS
@MANGLORIOUS 2 жыл бұрын
I’m still upset about Toffee. They could’ve done him justice by giving him an epic death but NO! They had to make it anti climactic and rushed!!!
@jacobb4795
@jacobb4795 2 жыл бұрын
The person stepping off was the viewers
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 Жыл бұрын
That is no mere person, he is a gift to humanity, he is the legendary Jeremy Clarkson "Jezza"
@9064bow
@9064bow 2 жыл бұрын
LOL I actually just started rewatching Star Vs with my bf, I told him I only made it halfway through season 3 We've already watched through all these other shows together (GF, TOH, ducktales, amphibia) I'm really enjoying my rewatch of season 1 and I'm going into the later seasons with low expectations, personally I'm not a difficult person to please so I might enjoy it visually, at the very least.
@x2bounty
@x2bounty 2 жыл бұрын
Ducktales reboot did NOT have to be as good as it was. Yet they did it anyway. An excellent job expanding on the original while still being respectful of its roots and what the original fans care about.
@doubleagent077
@doubleagent077 2 жыл бұрын
Yup thats exactly my thoughts in a nutshell right there
@Froggy_Turtles
@Froggy_Turtles 2 жыл бұрын
I’m happy i loved the ending of Amphibia and it didn’t end with Meh ending like Star
@ukaszgrzesik7231
@ukaszgrzesik7231 2 жыл бұрын
Disney cartoons with Top Gear. A genius connection, I bursted laughing.
@ma3mc3mu-X
@ma3mc3mu-X 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty accurate. Problems include: * The animation in season 1 was way better. It's bouncy and expressive. * Too many useless romance subplots * Even after that plot twist was revealed, everyone STILL calls Star a Butterfly. Are they HAPPY believing a lie?! * Season 4 should've had a better villain that wants to exterminate magic instead of that crazy bitch Mina. Want to hear my idea for one?
@spoupsmcdoups
@spoupsmcdoups 2 жыл бұрын
Sure
@drs-fon-s6579
@drs-fon-s6579 2 жыл бұрын
Tell us
@ma3mc3mu-X
@ma3mc3mu-X 2 жыл бұрын
@@spoupsmcdoups Okay! * His name is Count Blackheart, real name Blair Corkwood, a wicked inventor who seeks to replace all traces of magic with science with an unlimited army of robots at his command. He makes his grand debut in 4's premier on a giant train-like robot called "Locobot". His first words and also his most famous quote, "You, _all_ of you, bow to your *emperor!".* * He's always seen wearing his trademark attire; black dictator clothing with a sash full of counterfeit medals and a bionic red lens covering his right eye. In the past, he amputated his right leg and replaced it with a tungsten prosthetic, objecting that it was "infected". * He lives in a factory dubbed "Blackweld Industries" which is covered from top to bottom with anti-magic materials he discovered years ago. Black uses it as a stronghold to claim more territory and building weapons for the highest bidders on black markets. * Midway through the season, during a confrontation with the heroes, Star summons a volcanic sawblade that cleaves Locobot in half. She corners Black, who she thinks is under rubble with his left arm exposed... That is, until he rises _behind_ her, clutching the stump from where his left arm was. With angry tears, Black sends a haunting line- -"You goshdarn hypocrite! You claim magic is for "peace", you... you use magic for PAIN! You were never meant to hold that power, let alone lead a kingdom! You'll pay for this..! You'll PAY for this.!!" Before a hiatus, he now covers the stump with a large gauntlet, the moment he becomes more competent and evil. * Near the end, Black abducts Star and reveals his entire backstory to her during a tour of his factory: ** When he was less than her age, he was hopeful and joyful and had dreams to be a wizard - that's right, he used to _love_ magic. But there were actions he could never forgive back then. During a magic duel, a stray spell hits him in the right eye, blinding it as well as leaving a huge burn scar around it. He begged for a cure and who hit him be arrested, but he got the same response: "You'll live. It's only a flesh wound." This convinced Blair that magic will always hurt people without cause. He gave alchemy a try and attempts to showcase a new age for the people who always avoided looking at him. Just when he managed to catch their attention, the announcement of "Princess" Star was born, stealing his short-lived respect. That was the moment the light got dark and the day he officially lost his heart. That very night, he snuck into the castle and attempts to *murder the infant* with a rusted knife but was foiled. King River angrily banishes him and promises to smite him and whatever army he brings. Blair, responding as if he's placing a sinister curse on them, also promises that he'll rid the whole multiverse of magic. I'll send in more info later on. My joints are killing me.
@ThatGFFAN
@ThatGFFAN 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The season 1 animation especially was amazing. That was the work of Mercury Filmworks. They've since gone on to animate for Hilda and The Ghost and Molly McGee and honestly, regardless of what opinions anyone may have on those shows, their animation quality shines and it's all thanks to the high quality work Mercury does :P
@drs-fon-s6579
@drs-fon-s6579 2 жыл бұрын
@@ma3mc3mu-X That would be a very interesting villain. And what about the ending? Would Star have to destroy magic?
@mylesspear
@mylesspear 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most accurate yet hilarious thing I’ve ever seen! Thank you for making this! 🤣
@beebfajeejy
@beebfajeejy 2 жыл бұрын
i never watched star vs but this meme pretty much explained to me why i completely stopped hearing about it online eventually. helpful!
@My_Heart_is_on_Mars
@My_Heart_is_on_Mars 2 жыл бұрын
Star was like aaaaalllmost perfect
@archive6094
@archive6094 2 жыл бұрын
Memes aside, the way Jeremy says Richards name as they're sinking will never not be funny
@bizzarofan2951
@bizzarofan2951 2 жыл бұрын
To this day I just want to know what happened behind the scenes like how do make 2 great seasons then suddenly drop the ball
@pudim3113
@pudim3113 2 жыл бұрын
I liked Star's ending (:
@mr_indie_fan
@mr_indie_fan 2 жыл бұрын
Same, the later seasons get to much hate.
@lampoilsalesman
@lampoilsalesman 2 жыл бұрын
Back in 2016-2017 I watched stvfoe, but I only got to see the two first seasons and a bit of the third one. In 2019 I got in touch so to say and discovered that things got south and I asked myself: why (did it happen)? Sad to see that my favourite series didn't go nor end well… :/
@Froggy_Turtles
@Froggy_Turtles 2 жыл бұрын
0:20 S4 was a train wreck
@gaspastrike
@gaspastrike 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when the villain was that weird little green person with the horns, I don’t think I’ve watched since then
@mintspear1845
@mintspear1845 2 жыл бұрын
Top Gear is such a beautiful show. It’s one of my favorite things to watch and I have almost zero interest in anything to do with cars
@Aflay1
@Aflay1 2 жыл бұрын
That's it. That's the show.
@roiking2740
@roiking2740 2 жыл бұрын
after tuffy died they changed the next villian into a "hero" and basicly turn the plot upside down. now magic is evil and monsters are good...
@Sean-132
@Sean-132 2 жыл бұрын
1:04 Why wasn’t Ducktales (2017) showed there?
@ThatGFFAN
@ThatGFFAN 2 жыл бұрын
It was airing around the same time as Star. My idea with that scene was more so to show what shows people moved over to after Star ended. Though DuckTales definitely deserved better as well.
@SmolPotato8
@SmolPotato8 2 жыл бұрын
Glad shows like Gravity falls and DuckTales didn't happen like this (I haven't seen amphibia yet and I'm not interested by the owl house)
@BrenGamerYT
@BrenGamerYT 2 жыл бұрын
At least they tried
@andrewdiaz3529
@andrewdiaz3529 2 жыл бұрын
To be fully fair, yeah Star vs was jerked around hard for money reasons as opposed to how Disney messed with Owl House for political reasons. But, having said that, there really isn't anything the team behind Star vs that makes me think that even if they had the time they wanted they could land even a decent ending. Biggest problem for me was how they were caught up in blaming magic for the human-monster conflicts, and wanted to make magic a stand in for technological differences like between the Imperial powers and the places colonized, which did not work and they did not do enough to make work and really doesn't work with the rest of the series due to basically everything before that. It has a side effect where the story is now about how to achieve peace between monsters and humans, peace between nations, all the technology of the most technological of the two must be destroyed no matter the cost, even if it kills millions. And it does kill, killing magic kills all magical creatures in reality. The conclusion gets tangled up in a mess or ends up saying stuff like "Destroy all technology" and it just wouldn't be fixable as is. No amount of additional time could have fixed the ending they locked in place.
@Froggy_Turtles
@Froggy_Turtles 2 жыл бұрын
Well we got Starco and that is the most important thing in the whole show (i’m being sarcastic)
@ElsaLouiseSinger
@ElsaLouiseSinger 2 жыл бұрын
I was so disappointed that Star and Tom broke up again. Though, my favorite characters were Eclipsa and Globgor, cause it was a ship but they didn't make it drive the plot of their story, which just made it better. Also, Buff Frog is one of the best characters too with his character development. I love Star and Marco (honestly Marco a little better) but the ending wasn't as good as it could've been, I still like it though, but I agree it could've been better.
@mariedit9935
@mariedit9935 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone blames Disney when they talk about TOH but when it comes to SVTFOE everyone gets blind all of a sudden and only criticize the writers. I mean, the series finale wasn't even allowed to have the full intro lol
@andrewdiaz3529
@andrewdiaz3529 2 жыл бұрын
To be fully fair, yeah Star vs was jerked around hard for money reasons as opposed to how Disney messed with Owl House for political reasons. But, having said that, there really isn't anything the team behind Star vs that makes me think that even if they had the time they wanted they could land even a decent ending. Biggest problem for me was how they were caught up in blaming magic for the human-monster conflicts, and wanted to make magic a stand in for technological differences like between the Imperial powers and the places colonized, which did not work and they did not do enough to make work and really doesn't work with the rest of the series due to basically everything before that. It has a side effect where the story is now about how to achieve peace between monsters and humans, peace between nations, all the technology of the most technological of the two must be destroyed no matter the cost, even if it kills millions. And it does kill, killing magic kills all magical creatures in reality. The conclusion gets tangled up in a mess or ends up saying stuff like "Destroy all technology" and it just wouldn't be fixable as is. No amount of additional time could have fixed the ending they locked in place.
@bigbadgammagnome
@bigbadgammagnome 2 жыл бұрын
I think one key difference is that TOH actually held up under the constraints Disney put on it where Star seemed to flounder. Other people have said it much better than I can here so in short I'll just say that people blame Disney in regards to TOH because TOH is actually *good* . Ie, it only got better as it went on, whereas Star, for many, only worsened. People criticize the writers because S4 in particular is written badly so yeah, it seems only fair to me.
@enchantedplays7860
@enchantedplays7860 2 жыл бұрын
Because the writers literally admitted that they were coming up with it as they went along which wouldn't have been a problem if they listened to the feedback they were given, they didn't, or if they didn't forget most of the plot lines in the rush to finish the show, they did.
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 2 жыл бұрын
My exact sentiments.
@danielladuck3323
@danielladuck3323 2 жыл бұрын
Tom, Jana, and eclipsa carried seasons 3&4
@asaknight321
@asaknight321 2 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty great example
@Kr8zySteve
@Kr8zySteve 2 жыл бұрын
I still haven’t watched season 4. I watched 1-3 and loved them but never got around to 4 but with all the disappointment I’ve seen over the years of how season 4 went it makes me really hesitant to watch it.
@alexandrabahtishi6193
@alexandrabahtishi6193 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you!
@Aahmpower
@Aahmpower 2 жыл бұрын
I watched it 2 years ago after asking for a friend about what happened to it (in that moment I didn't heard anything about the finale) and made a deal with her to watch it Man, there's no words that currently describe how disappointed i was, to the point that i almost forgot all about S4 but the ending part
@alexandrabahtishi6193
@alexandrabahtishi6193 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aahmpower Yeah, it's such a bummer when a story has a poor conclusion. It drags the whole thing down.
@Aahmpower
@Aahmpower 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandrabahtishi6193 You know, i was a big fan of the series. In fact, i was more sad than angry about the way it all went down and ended
@alexandrabahtishi6193
@alexandrabahtishi6193 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aahmpower Yeah, I get that!
@gracekim25
@gracekim25 2 жыл бұрын
You know about top gear!!!😂
@ThatGFFAN
@ThatGFFAN 2 жыл бұрын
It was my life when I was a kid. Before GF, the only shows I'd watch were Phineas and Ferb, Top Gear and Air Crash Investigation 0_0
@eddym1204
@eddym1204 2 жыл бұрын
Cool 😎
@Mr.Needle-Hamster
@Mr.Needle-Hamster 2 жыл бұрын
IT WAS ALL SHIPPINGS FAULT!
@Froggy_Turtles
@Froggy_Turtles 2 жыл бұрын
Also the pointless filler and the poorly executed way to break the Blood Moon Curse
@Mr.Needle-Hamster
@Mr.Needle-Hamster 2 жыл бұрын
@@Froggy_Turtles Yeah those were ESPECIALLY huge factors!
@ThatGFFAN
@ThatGFFAN 2 жыл бұрын
@@Froggy_Turtles Remember the episodes that took place in the wand? Those were the worst of the worst filler episodes ;-;
@Froggy_Turtles
@Froggy_Turtles 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t remember that ep. I didn’t watch the show that much but i watched the finale and i was like :/ that’s it this is the worst ending i ever seen. I was really worried for Amphibia i actually loved S3 but when i saw the criticism i became worried for the finale and i’m happy they stuck the landing
@buster5661
@buster5661 2 жыл бұрын
It tanked, yes
@nazimelon6653
@nazimelon6653 2 жыл бұрын
The shipping wasn't bad either. It was obviously gonna be starco from the getgo, they just wanted to spice it up inbetween. Overdone, yes but, not bad. The issue is that star vs expected to run longer than it did and instead of adapting to a shorter run like toh is currently doing for example, they just went with their story and had to rush the last season, making some very questionable decisions along the way.
@ThatGFFAN
@ThatGFFAN 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta disagree in some ways. When Star began, Star and Marco's relationship had a more friendship type feel as Marco had his own girl he was having a crush on (Jackie) and later we meet Tom Lucitor who Star later gets back with. Point is that SVTFOE could have kept Star and Marco's relationship as just good friends and not make it into a shipping type deal and the show could have avoided many of the issues it later ran into with having to juggle around having episodes that progress their ship and then later other ships. Of course there would be a push from fans for them to be together but it could have remained in a more ambiguous state where it isn't how the show was gonna end up but open to fan interpretation...kinda like how some say Amphibia did in the end with the girls and whether or not they may be more than friends as some fans assume. Point is, Starco didn't have to be the end goal of the show and Star could instead have been a series where the two protagonists don't end up together but stay good friends while helping each other in their own relationships with other characters. Would it have been unpopular with the fans...probably which would be why it wouldn't have happened. But personally IMO, had that been the way it went, the show could have at least have been able to say in one way or another that it had an okay ending.
@winnner3038
@winnner3038 2 жыл бұрын
Who is among HF characters is Stig?
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 Жыл бұрын
None, it would be one of the Stig's HF cousins.
@arsenicarrow6333
@arsenicarrow6333 2 жыл бұрын
Are you secretly Blue Order?
@ThatGFFAN
@ThatGFFAN 2 жыл бұрын
Who's that?
@adanrojas5413
@adanrojas5413 2 жыл бұрын
Hello there
@ThatGFFAN
@ThatGFFAN 2 жыл бұрын
General Kenobi!
@cyanstar9161
@cyanstar9161 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be a fan of star vs the forces of evil but then i watch season 3 and the season 3 final and as i got older star vs is one of the worst cartoons ever made and it's THE worst kids cartoon ever made in my opinion
@AnimationFanboy2k4
@AnimationFanboy2k4 2 жыл бұрын
Damnn
@danielkuraev1296
@danielkuraev1296 2 жыл бұрын
Don't ruin top gear for us
@MysteryFallsOfficial
@MysteryFallsOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. :)
@maxdon2001
@maxdon2001 2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious!
@miguelvillanueva6542
@miguelvillanueva6542 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, I liked all seasons for SVTFOE, I didn’t see anything bad with any of them. I just wish they would of had a better ending. Kind of like a ATLA/ Gravity Falls/ Amphibia ending. I mean yes I wanted the ending to have Starco. Idk how to explain it but all I can say is they could of made a better series ending like Amphibia or Gravity Falls did but they could of kept the magic and still being able to see each other and not merging worlds and most important still able to see each other. Although the whole merging worlds for me was cool and was ok, I still feel like they could of had a much better satisfying ending. If they weren’t rushed at all by Disney they could of come up with a much better ending and that’s what most people forget. It’s not the creators or the writers it was all Disney. If they hadn’t rushed the team for Star, trust me this show would definitely be up there with Amphibia, TOH, and Gravity Falls
@metallicsnake.
@metallicsnake. 2 жыл бұрын
In the end Star killed the devil and God and made a world where only the strong will live. So good ending for me. Star was a God who gives it up to be free and to be loved. Anne give up everything she loved to become a God.
@AyoSquareRoot
@AyoSquareRoot 2 жыл бұрын
Anne gave up her life for what she loved and became a God in the process.
@mr_indie_fan
@mr_indie_fan 2 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree as a fan of the show, i think that the darker villain and everything and the epic finale where marco and star finally kissed was great!
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