The DEFINITIVE Mario Kart 8 DLC Tier List | Wave 2

At long last, Wave 2 of the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass is upon us, and we all know what that means... That's right, it's time to add the new courses to our official DLC tier list! Join me as I share my expert opinions on such gems as: Waluigi Pinball, Mario Circuit 3, Sky High Sundae, Snow Land, New York Minute, Kalimari Desert, Mushroom Gorge, Sydney Sprint, and MORE! Oh, wait, that's actually all of them, so there are no more...
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[@mmarrone]

I like how you point out the Ice Cream course for mistreating cows. This is something the developers should address for digital animal rights activists. You could also raise the point that New York City Minute drives through the city without addressing its big issues like rising rents, pollution, and homelessness. Mario has been silent on a lot of issues as he cruises through these areas and I think we need answers.

[@mekomarz8258]

You mean Sky High Sundae

[@VirtualFireball]

Obviously moo moo meadows isn’t the only milk they use.

[@Roxleton]

Mario’s rich anyways so he can literally do whatever he wants

[@yizeng4739]

But you don’t care if Mario uses yoshi as a platform or jumping on goombas and koopa troopas

[@yizeng4739]

Slaughterhouses do not exist in the Mario universe

[@crispbongo26]

Personally, I would also move Coconut Mall up a tier because they made the cars move again which I didn't expect

[@GameGuy53]

I can’t believe I didn’t think of that when I was making the video - Coconut mall is absolutely S-Tier now and I’m gonna have to make sure I amend that in the next go around.

[@shyguytimmy]

I have 2 things to say that wouldnt make me put it any higher. 1. I never rlly cared about the cars not moving to begin with and I am glad that they dont move in time trials because tracks like waluigi pinball would be rlly fun to time trial if it weren't for the pinball obstacles. 2. The cars doing little donuts is a step in the right direction HOWEVER it doesnt rlly fix the real issue with the car situation. Before the update, to avoid the cars, all u needed to do was move to the left slightly and then move to the right slightly. That was rlly easy. So what did they do for the update. Well in this update, to avoid the cars, u need to first move to the left and then move to the righ- wait a moment... THATS THE SAME AS BEFORE!!! The cars are even easier to avoid as well because when they ain't spinning, they are further towards the sides of the track. And when they are spinning, just do the process I said above. The original course had a challenge of, okay so if the car is at the right and I am here, then by the time I get to there, the car will be in that other spot so I should move away from it. It was more dynamic. I am glad Nintendo listened but I think this change would have worked better on New York minute and then make the coconut mall cars move like how they did on the 3ds and Wii.

[@crispbongo26]

@@shyguytimmy I'm not gonna lie, after playing the new DLC a lot, I agree with both of these points. Out of all of the races I've played on Coconut Mall with the new cars, I've gotten hit maybe 2-3 times, so yeah, while funny, the cars doing donuts barely changes the course.

[@shyguytimmy]

@@crispbongo26 I stole the points from a recent video by silohawk XD I rlly hope people stop saying that coconut mall is fixed even tho they bassically changed nothing.

[@WeisgerberCubed]

I did the most comical stupid double take when I clicked your channel to watch more videos and realized you didn’t have thousands of subs. You edit like a pro, and your production quality is insane! One small channel to another, you’re going places man! Happy to say you gained a new fan today.

[@GameGuy53]

Wow, thanks for all the kind words! I’m glad you like what you see! And for what it’s worth, I just checked out some of your recent short comedy videos, they’re great and you seem like a funny guy. You’ve earned yourself a fan as well my friend!

[@BossGaming-vg6zh]

While I disagree with most rankings in this video, I have to say that this video was extremely well made! You spend the perfect amount of time talking about each track, and you mention the right things! Really well done!

[@GameGuy53]

Thank you very much, I’m glad you enjoyed the video! That’s more important than agreeing with the rankings in my book!

[@Fobb]

GBA snow land is such a cute track, its vibes are unmatched

[@GameGuy53]

Totally agree!! I’m happy they recreated that course with so much care.

[@a.jdeets5527]

I’m in love with what they did for Snow Land. The biggest surprises to me with the DLC are the less popular and simple layouts like Shroom Ridge. I’ve always liked the Tour tracks.

[@GameGuy53]

Totally agree! It’s super nice to see them pay so much attention to the details of the simpler maps - Shroom Ridge and Snow Land feel like perfect “remasters,” whereas the Tour tracks, while still fun, are more like ports.

[@quinnteddy1466]

Ah yes, another hidden gem of KZbin. Couldn't believe your sub count when I saw it. Solid commentary, my friend! My ranking: 1) Sydney Sprint (I admit my bias here. I've been to Sydney and really enjoyed my time there. Really cool to see it come to life in the form of this track. Love the colors. Love the layout. And you get to go INSIDE the Opera House????? So neat. 2) Waluigi Pinball & Mushroom Gorge (The level of nostalgia associated with these courses is so incredibly equal that I cannot pick a favorite between the two. I will always vote for these in online lobbies. 3) New York Minute (This track is so fun. Central Park within the first few seconds is what really solidified this one in my top half. I really love that our universe is bleeding into the Mario one. There has to be some word that adequately describes the feeling I get when I experience a tangible place in an intangible medium, but I have no clue what that is. All I know is that it feels awesome and I really hope more city-inspired tracks are coming in future waves. 4) Sky High Sundae (zero-gravity saves this track, no doubt. I do think that Sweet Sweet Canyon executes the dessert theme a little better due to the non-linear layout and the huge donut cannon in the beginning. That being said, I love how the colors pop on this one and I always try to nab as many zero-gravity boosts on those stair railings as I can (lowkey think this may be a bug because why wouldn't those be solid lmao) 5) Snow Land (Honestly, upon my first play-through of this one, I was ranking it significantly lower. But the more I play it, the more I see its worth. The penguins do give me a serotonin boost every time I see them :))) Also WOW that glow up. 6) Kalamari Desert (This is the first time I've played this course so I don't have a Goomba-level anecdote to tie with this one. It's just okay. Also, within the Mario universe as a whole, I am chronically anti-desert. Wish that wasn't the case, but alas. 7) Mario Circuit 3 (Music slaps, but I definitely agree with your ranking here. It just seems like a throw away course. I'd much rather have 24 DLC courses that get the full MK8D treatment than 48 with tracks like this one sprinkled in just to reach a higher track total for marketing reasons.

[@GameGuy53]

You make a lot of awesome points here - a comment this solid deserves a solid response! I can respect the Sydney Sprint opinion - because I think my experiences working in NYC kind of boosted my perception of that race as well, and speaking of New York Minute, you’re so absolutely right about that inexplicable feeling of blending the worlds together. It’s extremely satisfying. Also, I was royally confused when I first played Sky High Sundae and was getting boosts off of the railings, so you’re not alone in feeling like that’s weird! Like you, I’m also anti-desert in general for video games, whenever I get to the desert level (especially in 2D Mario games) I’m like “okay let’s just mow through this and get to the good stuff,” but something about the sun setting over Kalimari Desert and the nostalgia I feel for that race helps me look past my desert-phobia. And lastly, totally agree on you SNES Mario Circuit assessment. The course isn’t inherently bad, but I feel like it could be taking up a roster spot from another race I’d rather have back from Double Dash maybe, or like you said, taking time away from the other courses that maybe deserve more effort and attention by the team. Anyway, thanks for commenting and I’m glad you enjoyed the video!! Your compliment made my night!

[@GameGuy53]

I had a lot of fun putting this one out for you all! If you’re not subscribed, hit that subscribe button so that we can get to 500 and start using that community tab!

[@kylewoodowens4488]

I disagree with Sydney Sprint. Of the tour tracks we gotten its probably my 2nd favorite behind Ninja Hideaway. It has some sections that feel nice and satisfying to race on.

[@GameGuy53]

I’m definitely in the minority with my Sydney Sprint take in this video, but as more people point out it’s strengths and I play it more I’m definitely coming around on it! I still think I enjoyed most of the other tracks a little more, but I do agree that it’s a very strong tour track.

[@lewisphelan6819]

@@GameGuy53 i think the city tracks just have a hard time by nature they feel uninspired and what makes them interesting is the combining of versions to make different laps/routes. i think the original tour tracks will in general be better if their anything like ninja hideaway maybe not so much like the new one. also please add dk mountain nintendo

[@GameGuy53]

@@lewisphelan6819 good point - there’s also kind of an inherent challenge that comes when you try to integrate a real world location into a fantasy world. It’s tough comparing a realistic course like Tokyo Blur for example to a high tier course like Electrodrome which is complete fantasy. The city tour tracks aren’t inherently “bad,” we’re just so used to a certain kind of race. Also agreed - that track is a necessity!

[@lewisphelan6819]

@@GameGuy53 there not bad, they can just never be the best, even great is tough for them, i think the best thing about them is that they are essentially new even for tour players. but think of how excited you was for sky sundae or ninja hideaway even if sky sundae flopped and was a little disappointing, the excitement alone proves my point in my opinion. also i hated mario circuit 3 in mkwii but for some reason love it here. that original look actually adds to it for me because the whole idea of the course is to be simple and short so having crazy shortcuts and stuff on every track would be less interesting. also another must is airship fortress!

[@harrisonbanon9552]

Sydney Sprint at 7 is criminal but I still like the video 😆😆

[@Anonymous...]

For the first time seeing your channel this was really enjoyable to watch Personally though my rankings for this wave though would be: 1. Mushroom Gorge 2. Sydney Sprint (that stage should be all anti gravity and upside down) 3. Waluigi Pinball 4. Kalamari Desert 5. Snow Land 6. New York Minute 7. Sky High Sundae 8. Mario Circuit 3 Alone though this is better than wave 1

[@GameGuy53]

Thank you very much, I’m glad you enjoyed your stay! And those are some solid rankings - it seems we both wanted a little more out of Sky High Sundae. Though I totally agree that this wave was way stronger overall, I actually had a harder time ranking these than I did with Wave 1 because I truly enjoyed them all on my first several play throughs.

[@peteinafew]

as someone who has not played any of these tracks and does not even own mario kart 8, I can’t help but agree with everything you said

[@GameGuy53]

This means a lot coming from you

[@Swiftjar]

Great video mate! PS you've got a new subscriber. :)

[@GameGuy53]

Thank you, I’m glad you enjoyed it! I’ve seen your channel floating around my recommended feed for a while now too and you’ve also got some great stuff, subbed right back!

[@realPSherman]

I could not agree more with all of these rankings, you’re the man, GameGuy53!!

[@MrSuperleobros]

I'm actually surprised sydney sprint ranked so low. I personally think its one of the better offerings and came close to dethrowning waluigi pinball and mushroom gorge for me. I definitely agree its way better thank tokyo blur, that one is the weakest of the tour tracks for me. But I respect your opinion. Tbh thats what I really enjoy about wave 2, there is a track for everyone. PS. hearing that MKDS intro music brings so many memories back!

[@GameGuy53]

I definitely feel like I’m in the minority having Sydney Sprint in a low spot, most people prefer it to New York Minute as far as tour tracks go. But hey what’s a good tier list without a scorching hot take right? Totally agree that this wave has a lot going for it, I honestly had fun with every single race in the pack regardless of where I ranked it. And that DS intro music might actually be my favorite Mario Kart music ever.

[@jupitervideos7702]

@@GameGuy53 I agree with you putting Sydney Sprint low on the list.

[@YoshWilbur]

Sydney Sprint is the Best track from Wave 2

[@Josephied]

When u said ur nearly at 500 subs I didn’t realise u had so little! Production quality of those who have hundreds of thousands of subscribers! But I don’t think you’ll be far off for long if you keep this effort up :)

[@GameGuy53]

Thank you for the kind words!! I’ve been doing freelance videography and editing professionally for a long time now for clients and I figured I'd finally use those skills for myself somehow. I'm glad you enjoyed it so much!

[@Megaman6924]

I definitely agree about the shape for Sky High Sundae. It should’ve been more of a triangular shape. Y’know, like an ice cream cone?

[@GameGuy53]

Now THAT right there is a good idea - literally anything but the oval we got probably would’ve been more interesting for me.

[@clutteryguy9747]

I wonder how long it’ll take until these videos pop off. But seriously nice work ;)

[@GameGuy53]

Fingers crossed!! Thank you, I really appreciate the compliment!

[@Mrgatterson]

Sydney sprint became my favorite track in the game some how but i just love it

[@Moonboy65]

The Blue Mushroom in Mushroom Gorge that acts as a Glider Ramp is taken from Mario Kart 7. The laps for Kalimari Desert combines the original track for Lap 1 and Kalimari Desert 2 in Tour for Laps 2 and 3. It's pretty neat

[@tylerchristianlaw]

I know for a fact that my favorite Mario character is headlining that Comedy Club: MC Ballyhoo

[@GameGuy53]

This is the ONLY acceptable answer. Submissions for this prompt are now officially closed

[@ogpandamonium]

These videos are so high quality! How do you only have 476 subscribers?

[@GameGuy53]

Thank you very much! I’m still climbing the KZbin algorithm ladder!

[@BASEDSAKRI]

ninja hideaway and snow land r my 2 favorites from the last waves, good taste

[@GameGuy53]

Finally someone who understands!

[@Moonboy65]

Waluigi Pinball is actually the first track in the Booster Course Pass to re-use music, specifically the music for DS Wario Stadium both tracks used the same music in the original game

[@ZockenMitFlo1]

thanks for your video ☺️ I thought your video was very good and it really entertained me ☺️ Have a nice evening 🤗

[@MT_YT_1019]

1. Sydney Sprint (S+) 2. Waluigi Pinball (S+) 3. Mushroom Gorge (A+) 4. Snow Land (A) 5. New York Minute (A) 6. Kalimari Desert (A-) 7. Sky High Sundae (C) 8. Mario Circuit 3 (D)

[@GameGuy53]

A very nice list here - falls in line with the idea that this is overall a very strong wave, lots of A’s and S’s!

[@MT_YT_1019]

@@GameGuy53 exactly. This wave has lots of mind-blowing tracks. There are only two tracks that I think that is bad but they’re not that bad either.

[@epicgamner1139]

this channel is going places i can tell

[@GameGuy53]

Glad to have you along for the ride!

[@epicgamner1139]

@@GameGuy53 glad to be here!

[@jenniferpratt3007]

This channel is so underrated

[@GameGuy53]

Thank you very much!!

[@Yoshi_958]

I wanna point out that the blue mushroom in mushroom gorge was brought from the mario kart 7 version.

[@GameGuy53]

Goes to show you how long it’s been since I popped that game in! Thanks for pointing that out, I completely forgot.

[@JAWNDOEmusic]

ive seen a few others complain about the oval layout of sky high sundae but the track has something excitbike doesnt: and thats SERIOUS verticality (and splitting paths, at one point giving FOUR options, left, right, upper left, upper right) which is what makes it so enjoyable imo (and also adds the risk of flying/falling off the track which isnt an issue in excitebike) - yeah it couldve been more creative but with allt he ramps/glider section/antigrav physics id personnaly be happy with this level of qualty from any 'new' courses that make it into the DLC waves - but as far as the oval shape, i played/enjoyed the track 3 or 4 times before realizing it was an oval lol, maybe im just not paying much attention but i think its cuz they added so much verticality/elements to it that it didnt matter to me...

[@GameGuy53]

True that - the jumps and climbs and glides do distract from its ovalness a little bit, it took me a few play-throughs to realize it. Interestingly enough though - I have a few friends who actually complained about that aspect of the course because they say it’s hard for them to tell what’s going on, and then combining that with anti-gravity, they think the whole thing is too floaty. I don’t necessarily agree with them a hundred percent, but the course almost makes it’s own analogy - everyone prefers different ice cream flavors in the same way that people prefer different Mario Kart track styles.

[@shyguytimmy]

I honestly get disgusted when people say this course is trash but excitebike is rlly great just cause it's based of excitebike. Finally someone who thinks sky high is rlly cool

[@imaginationsquare]

This is identical to my tierlist!

[@GameGuy53]

I think you're the only comment to completely agree with this list!

[@BL-mf3jp]

1. Snow land 2. Kalamari Desert 3. Waluigi Pinball 4. Mario Circuit 3 5. Mushroom Gorge 6. New York Minute 7. Sydney Sprint 8. Sky High Sundae

[@GameGuy53]

Solid list here, I like that everyone’s lists are pretty different for this wave. Speaks to the overall quality of the wave since there’s something to like about all of the courses!

[@Magicwaterz]

Surprised Sydney Sprint is lower than New York Minute. Most of the arguments I heard on why Sydney is much preferred because New York is too short and feels less active.

[@GameGuy53]

I am fully aware that I am in the minority with that take (admittedly though, my opinion has shifted a little since I made this video), but I’m okay with being the black sheep!

[@flamingsword2548]

Did the coconut mall patch that made the cars move change its placing in the tier list?

[@GameGuy53]

It absolutely does and I can’t believe I didn’t think of that while making the video! That belongs in S-Tier now because those shy guys are putting in work in that parking lot.

[@ilan_profile]

THIS IS LIKE THE BEST WAVE 2 RANKING VIDEO SO FAR- Deserves more viewsss

[@GameGuy53]

Thanks a lot! The people will come!

[@westinrick802]

You have gained the respect of one Shroom Ridge fan. Nice ranking on the other courses. One thing I’m wondering about is you said that Sydney Sprint is a Tokyo blur 2.0. And I thought you said it’s a bit better overall with appearance and layout, but then you put it a tier below Blur. Any explanation?

[@SaxSon]

Agreed, I was really confused by this. Sydney Sprint is a much better track than Tokyo Blur. He should have swapped them round.

[@SaxSon]

I watched the video until the end... never mind.

[@GameGuy53]

A very astute observation - I was wondering if anyone would call that out! Yeah I kept it that way to kind of foreshadow the swap at the end of the video, where I moved Tokyo Blur down to C-Tier. I don’t have them ordered within the tiers really, but if I did, Tokyo Blur would be really close to D-Tier and Sydney is high C-Tier, bordering on B. Could be more amendments in the wave 3 vid, we’ll see!

[@SaxSon]

@@GameGuy53 A classic case of me being too trigger happy with the comment button mid-video haha! I assumed you'd be moving Coconut Mall up because of the cars update! In all seriousness, though, this was an awesome video and very entertaining. I know content creation can be a tough gig, especially on KZbin, but you're killing it with your content. Keep it up and you're bound to explode soon! Have a great one! Can't wait until your Wave 3 video!

[@GameGuy53]

@@SaxSon Other people are saying the same about coconut mall and I’m kicking myself for not thinking to do that! And thank you very much, that truly means a lot and I’m glad you enjoyed the video! It’s a labor of love for sure.

[@Celestful]

while you’re making a suggestion for the taxis to move, let’s also get the blue shell working on 200cc as that’ll be interesting on New York minute

[@MattF012]

I'm sorry but putting Sydney Sprint below Tokyo Blur is baffling. There's so much going on in Sprint and Blur is just a bunch of rly boring roads. Like that highway at the end, there is nothing going on there, just like 400 feet of plain road. Visually Blur takes the L hard too

[@GameGuy53]

I agree on Tokyo, which is why I bumped it down at the end of the video - and in the wave 3 video, which I’m working on now, I do make some slight changes to the city ranks!

[@JAWNDOEmusic]

totally agree it took too long to get antigrav in the DLC courses BUT if u saw the big dataleek that shows where each upomcing wave/courses will come from there were something like 5 or 6 'New' ones like this so id be shocked if they didnt all use antigrav if the devs arent gonna bother adding it to courses that COULD use it like a revamped Waliugi Pinball for example...

[@GameGuy53]

I’m totally stoked about the potential for what the rest of these “new” courses can bring to the table, and it seems like that’s where we’ll be getting our anti-gravity fix for sure. Contrary to the joke I made in the video though, I actually don’t mind that they aren’t rehauling a lot of these retro courses and adding anti-gravity to them. Even though I definitely think a course like Waluigi’s Pinball could easily incorporate it, there’s something charming about having the course back in it’s pure form. It will be interesting to see how the rest of these waves shake out.

[@frenchfrey65]

Snow Land is an example of taking something that didn't work before and simply put making it great. It literally went from Worst, to First! I see so many people just not like the original Super Circuit version cuz of the screen shaking, and lackluster soundtrack, and to see it come back, looking gorgeous, with the most whimsically happy song you've ever heard, it just puts a smile on my face too :D! Same thing with Kalimari Desert, a track that honestly I never liked on N64 cuz it was so boring and lifeless, and now? It looks like a true western themed track, with actual additions like you said, and are we gonna forget the glow up to their soundtrack too? It's not only a true western theme now in terms of the band they chose, but it sounds weirdly nostalgic despite the track being forgettable.

[@GameGuy53]

You, my friend, are someone who just gets it. Couldn’t have said it better myself! I’m really enjoying the glow-ups a lot of these N64 and GBA tracks are getting, they’re really proving to be some of the highlights of the DLC for me!

[@ransman1156]

My ranking of wave 2 is problebly: 8: mario circuit 3 7: kalamari desert, dont kill me 6: snow land 5: new york minute 4: mushroom gorge 3: sky high sundae 2: waluigi pinball 1: sydney sprint, really good looking, really good layout, and amazing music.

[@GameGuy53]

Hey no judgement here on the Kalimari Desert ranking, everyone is going to think differently about these courses. Clearly your Sydney Sprint ranking is very different from mine! I may have low balled that one actually. But this is a nice list, hopefully Wave 3 can top this!!

[@ransman1156]

@@GameGuy53 also nvm i would problebly switch snow land with new york

[@Da_Sire]

Bruh another snow land robbery

[@Da_Sire]

@@ransman1156 oh ok then

[@shyguytimmy]

And aside from ninja hideaway, these are the tour communities least favourite nitro tracks. Also I love but also hate how everyone is all like "OMG GUYS!!! SKY HIGH SUNDAE IS A NEW ORIGINALNTRACK EVER MADE!! LETS GIVE IT STUPID EXPECTATIONS" when it's clearly made for tour and also THE PEOPLE SAYING THIS ARE PEOPLE WHO DONT PLAY TOUR SO THE TOUR CITY TRACKS ALSO ARE BRAND NEW TO THEM TOO!!! Also, snow land is amazing, glad someone has finally ranked it high

[@GameGuy53]

That’s a great point about all the opinions surrounding the tour tracks - non-tour players can’t set the bar too high for skyhigh sundae if they aren’t applying the same standard to the city tracks. And I love me some Snow Land

[@thezeldalovingbrony7930]

My opinion: 1. GBA Snow Land (Could not agree with you more, to put it simply, it's another great GBA remake.) 2. Tour Sydney Sprint (I like all of the City Courses but this imo is on another level, there are so many it constantly keeps me invested.) 3. Wii Mushroom Gorge (Downgraded in 7, slightly upgraded from 7 in Tour, and back to form here!) 4. N64 Kalimari Desert (Really awesome how they incorporated the train route into this, and yeah graphically it looks stunning!) 5. DS Waluigi Pinball (It's Waluigi Pinball what else to I need to say, it's as awesome as ever.) 6. Tour New York Minute (I Like this one a lot, quite short but very fun, I especially like lap 3.) 7. SNES Mario Circuit 3 (Now we're into the two courses I'm not so keen on, this however I still think is fun to race on due it it being quite intricately designed.) 8. Sky High Sundae (The only course from this Wave I don't enjoy playing, anti grav feels awful, it's so freaking floaty, I also generally dislike food tracks with the exception of Cheese Land.)

[@GameGuy53]

Nice list! I was close to bumping Sky-High Sunday even lower like you have it. And I definitely feel like I’m in the minority with my Sydney Sprint ranking lol, most people don’t have it lower than New York Minute. It’s a good track and I may not have given it enough credit. But hey that’s what makes tier lists fun! I honestly had fun with just about every course here, stronger than Wave 1 for sure.

[@supermariochaos7102]

The cars in coconut mall now move

[@GameGuy53]

I can’t believe I didn’t think to mention that in the video but it’s the greatest update that Coconut Mall could have gotten

[@flippaw]

I saw your video popped up in my recommended, so I decided to give it a watch. I’m glad I did, your extremely underated! Im surprised you dont at least have 30k subscribers. The editing is pretty good and I really enjoyed the video a lot. Especially the sky high sundae part, I agree those poor cows are getting overworked. While I don’t agree with everything on the list, I understand your points, they make sense. I hope you start gettting more subs soon, I’m definitely subscribing!

[@GameGuy53]

I’m glad you decided to watch! Thanks for the kind words. I’m working hard and having fun, happy to have you along for the ride up the KZbin mountain! And hey different opinions are what make these tier lists fun, I haven’t seen any others that have exactly matched mine or each other.

[@bastianhackett9102]

These are my rankings 8. SNES Mario Circuit 3 7. Sky-High Sundae 6. Tour New York Minute 5. Tour Sydney Sprint 4. Wii Mushroom Gorge 3. GBA Snow Land 2. DS Waluigi Pinball 1. N64 Kalamari Desert

[@randomobservers8734]

I was hoping you would swap those 2 in the end!

[@GameGuy53]

I’m glad my amendment made someone happy! Having 4 months between waves to play these courses definitely gave me a lot of time to reflect on how I placed them lol!

[@HJartANDgamming]

7:10 I imagine the DK Rap from Donkey Kong 64 🤣 Also I kind of prefer Sky High Sunday tour’s Version.

[@GameGuy53]

That would work super well - I would pay large amounts of cash to see that show. And I actually haven't even tried the tour version of Sky High Sundae yet, sounds like I'll have to give it a whirl!

[@Wikcan]

Blue mushroom has been there since mario kart 7

[@GameGuy53]

Someone else pointed that out too - it’s been so many years since I played that game that it totally slipped my mind! I’m gonna have to hop into that game soon as a refresher.

[@LlamaLogic]

That New York Minute placement was the most biased placement I've ever seen

[@ransman1156]

I know ive commented 3 times but i just have to say that one time a played coconut mall in 8 the convejerbellt just switch araound when was going up on it, so i had to turn around. And than i lost

[@diegoalejandroelizaldemarq6621]

I would put Sydney at least in B tier... It can't be in the same level as Sky High Sundae, come on, it is a really fun track

[@GameGuy53]

I will admit that after spending more time with these tracks and hearing from other Sydney Sprint enjoyers, I do think I lowballed Sydney Sprint. I believe an amendment to its tier placement is imminent for the next video! As I’ve played more, I’ve enjoyed Sydney Sprint more and more, and Sky High Sundae less and less.

[@ransman1156]

Toad circuit being in f tier seems very very harch. Like theres nothing bad with it.

[@GameGuy53]

You’re right, there may not be anything necessarily wrong with the course itself. But I think my main problem with it is that I feel like it’s a boring pick for the DLC that’s taking up a precious slot that might be better suited for other races. We won’t know for sure until all 6 waves are out, but we could end up in a situation where we have Toad Circuit and don’t have something like Maple Treeway or Koopa Cape from Wii, or some of the classics that deserve some love from Double Dash. Who knows though, they may be saving some ammunition for an eventual Mario Kart sequel one day!

[@ransman1156]

@@GameGuy53 i guess your right. But i do think that you should put it in D at least cuz F is kinda harch. And also at least it isnt DS figure 8 circuit.

[@GameGuy53]

@@ransman1156 Oh lord, if we get figure 8 circuit I’m throwing my copy of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe in the sewer

[@WiiManLei]

Kinda off topic but every DLC track in 8 Deluxe so far (including the Wii U DLC) has no underwater sections. Really hoping we can see at least one track with underwater driving in Wave 3

[@GameGuy53]

Wow, I didn’t even realize that. Nice catch! I agree, underwater tracks are a lot of fun, now I’m definitely gonna be thinking about that every time we get a new wave.

[@patrickschornstaedt5913]

Hey @gameguy53, you seem like a real pro at this game. Like, if you were to play Mario Kart with your casual gamer friends against hard COMs, you would definitely come in 1st every race. But think about your casual friends. They probably really like Toad Circuit and the SNES Mario Circuit 3. They probably like them because they're simple races. They're easy to get the hang of and have fun playing. Why would you label Toad Circuit and SNES Mario Circuit 3 as horrible stages when really they're just taylored to a different, more casual audience? I think they're very good races too, they're just easier to navigate than your top tier circuits. Next DLC I implore you to think of the casuals. TOAD CIRCUIT LOVERS RISE UP! #ToadCircuitIsATier #ProbablyNotSTierButItsPrettyGood #GameGuy53IsAntiCasual

[@GameGuy53]

Dearest Patrick, I understand where you are coming from here, especially on the topic of toad circuit. Though I would argue that SNES Mario Circuit 3 is in fact a more complex track layout as it requires a greater handle on drifting mechanics to truly excel at. There are other courses in this wave that I would consider “easier” than Mario Circuit 3, Snow Land being one of them and that’s S-Tier! But I appreciate your input on this important topic. #ToadCircuitisSTILLFTier

[@patrickschornstaedt5913]

​@@GameGuy53 #CasualMarioKartersRiseUp #AlsoIHopeYouHit500SubsSoon #GetTheBellOn #ThanksForReplying

[@patrickschornstaedt5913]

​@@GameGuy53 just gonna put this out there, but im the most liked comment on this video. I think the #CasualGamers have spoken and i hope to see an update to this list in the next DLC video. Thank you and godspeed to 500 subs. #GetTheBellOn

[@jww1674]

Here’s my list ⬇️ 8. Mario circuit 3 (TBH I like this track but it’s the weakest out of the 8) 7. Kalimari desert (this track is great but it gets boring after a while) 6. Snow land (sorry for putting your favourite Wave 2 track low it’s just ice physics are terrible) 5. Sydney Sprint (everything about this track is great but not perfect) 4. Sky high sundae (I love ice cream and I love the soundtrack its amazing) 3. New York minute (Love the song love the gameplay love the flashing lights I love everything about this track but it isn’t my favourite) 2. Mushroom gorge (this track brings back memories of when I still played Mario kart Wii I haven’t played it in years) 1. Waluigi pinball (My favourite track of all who doesn’t like Waluigi pinball my only nitpick is I wished the soundtrack wasn’t copied from Wario stadium but that’s fine)

[@GameGuy53]

Interesting list! Agreed on Mario Circuit 3, it’s not an inherently bad track, it’s just a little less exciting than all the others. Honestly this whole wave was really solid - you could rank them any which way and I could see an argument being made for the placements. No hard feelings on the Snow Land placement - I’m just an ice theme guy through and through, it’s a me thing! Surprised to see your Sky High Sundae placement where it is! I feel like a lot of people have been bombing on that one, it’s interesting to hear from someone who really doesn’t hate it. Waluigi Pinball is iconic through and through - can’t argue with anyone who places it number 1!

[@HighPeakMapping]

I think Toad Circuit is better than Mario Circuit 3, Toad Circuit has some inherent advantages due to it being a 3DS MK7 track with some split paths, a couple of good shortcuts and some verticality with the glider ramp. Mario Circuit 3 has nothing of the sort being a really flat and unimaginative track with nowhere to trick and only basic dirt cuts for time saves: granted, its layout is better than Toad Circuit but this is MC3's fifth appearance in a MarioKart game (SNES, GBA, Wii, Tour and MK8DX) and to see it evolve so little is disappointing. They've also updated Coconut Mall so that the cars move in the car park! (I thought you were a much larger channel when I clicked on this video I'll definitely be dropping a sub!)

[@GameGuy53]

You make some good points here on the Toad Circuit vs Mario Circuit 3 comparison, I didn’t even think of the fact that this is the 5th time we’ve seen Mario Circuit 3 and it hasn’t really evolved at all - that’s real lame. I think the only real reason I bumped it up a bit higher than Toad Circuit is because I’m a drift junkie, so any course where I can flex that a little bit makes me happy. But hey thanks for the sub, I’m glad you enjoyed the video! I only started uploaded consistently a few months back so we’re just starting out our journey here!

[@HighPeakMapping]

@@GameGuy53 Yeah I'm a bit of a drift junkie too, I loved it in MarioKart Wii with the inside drifting bikes letting me take really sharp and tight turns and getting world-record pace time trials. It's a good feeling for sure!

[@emilmortensen668]

SNES Mario Circuit 3 deserves S tier if you ask me. It’s exciting and The design is great. Shortcuts for The once who watch The special shortcut’s on youtube and yea. That’s it. Perfection if you ask me. We need something simple

[@GameGuy53]

Although I have that race placed low on this list, I can respect that take. I think as far as circuit tracks go, it’s definitely one of the better ones, and I’m sure they’ll continue to give us at least one simple race per wave going forward.

[@JAWNDOEmusic]

*Go back and play Tokyo Blur, then RIGHT after play Syd Sprint* Then tell me again how Tokyo Blur is ranked a full tier above Syd Sprint or how they're the 'same track' to you Imo, Tokyo's a C, Syd's an A and it's not even close...

[@esotericVideos]

Are they ranked left to right within the tiers?

[@GameGuy53]

As of right now they are not, but I believe I will be doing that going forward!

[@mythalieon7829]

Sydney sprint underrated

[@adamajora1003]

SNOW LAND SUPREMACY

[@GameGuy53]

You just get me

[@The_Game_Challenger]

Randomly saw this video in my recommended and I gotta say.. You just earned a new subscriber! The video is well edited and your layout for everything seems good. I'm no youtuber myself (if I could, I'd make videos someday and maybe do it often) but I know you're working hard for more success. I'm wondering why and how you only have 500 subscribers, I hope you exceed your goal but with even more than expected! I don't think I've subscribed to a channel that has had this little amount of subs but for someone that has a good chance to grow. I'm glad to subscribe this early to hopefully see the channel grow and say I've been here before 1,000 subs lol. Have a great day!

[@GameGuy53]

Thank you very much, I’m happy you enjoyed it! Putting out videos like these definitely takes a lot of work, but it’s a labor of love and I’m enjoying myself along the way. I only just started uploading consistently over the past couple of months, so this really is the beginning of my journey here. Glad to have you along for the ride!

[@SupaKidd-ft1kl]

What about the Change to coconut mall?

[@GameGuy53]

I’ve been kicking myself for not mentioning that in the video - because I think that might actually bump the course up to S-Tier. Those shy guys are literally doing donuts in the parking lot!!

[@acmiguens]

How to make wave 3 even better? Add GC tracks ;)

[@GameGuy53]

This - I agree with you 1 million percent. Double Dash needs some love!

[@IDoFNaFLMAO]

My list from Favorite to least favorite Bottom least favourite Top Favourite 1. Snow Land 2. Waluigi Pinball 3. Kalamari desert 4 mushroom gorge 5 sydney sprint 6 new york minute 7 sky high sundee 8 mario circuit 3

[@GameGuy53]

Nice list! Looks like we have at least a few placements in common!

[@RyansChannel0203]

Highly disagree with you on Sydney Sprint. It’s easily the best out of all the Tour city tracks and is the one out of all that feels like you’re going on a massive journey through the whole city rather than just slightly different variations of each lap like with New York Minute (which I think is way too high) and Tokyo Blur. The only Tour city track that I think does that well is Paris Promenade mainly due to its third lap and unique layout, but Sydney Sprint easily tops it IMO mainly due to how different every lap feels and it definitely makes for by far the most surprising course of all Wave 2. I also think Snow Land doesn’t have enough going on with it minus those few awesome shortcuts to warrant an S rank. Personally I’d put it B and would swap Mushroom Gorge with it (I’m just a sucker for bouncy levels in games like Lily Leapers and B’Doing Woods).

[@GameGuy53]

After spending even more time with Wave 2 over the past week I will say that I think my initial take on Sydney Sprint was a little off and I may be updating it’s tier in a future video - it really is a nice track, so I mostly agree with you there. I do think Wave 2 as a whole is very strong though, I haven’t found myself liking anything less than when I first reviewed it, so I’m sticking to my Snow Land opinion! I love that track! It probably helps that I’m very nostalgic for Super Circuit though. I also love bouncing on those shrooms in Mushroom Gorge, so I completely understand why it could be anyone’s favorite!

[@RyansChannel0203]

I’m definitely with you there. Wave 2 was overall a massive improvement over Wave 1 and I’m mostly pleased with all the tracks. I even loved how it further improved Wave 1 too with its small touch ups. Snow Land I still think is good and I am also super nostalgic towards Super Circuit since it was the first Mario Kart I owned and I still have a soft spot for it. I just wish they could’ve done more Snow Land. Looks super pretty though. I personally liked what they did with Sky Garden more though it’s nowhere near as perfect as Cloudtop Cruise. I also really happen to love Sky-High Sundae because to me it’s an extremely suped up version of Excitebike Arena (a course I already adore playing on).

[@VirtualFireball]

Wow.

[@piggyamwiggy6053]

Awwwww man I wish you could unlock goomba I love goomba

[@GameGuy53]

It’s honestly a crime that Goomba hasn’t been playable in a single Mario Kart yet

[@jonathanwest8415]

My personal ranking "includes" an S tier, but none of the tracks are actually in S tier. - - S N/A - - A (Really Solid, but not "Incredible" or "Perfect") Wii Mushroom Gorge* DS Waluigi Pinball* DS Shroom Ridge Wii Coconut Mall GBA Snow Land [*] These two tracks are extremely closely packed in terms of rank, it's pretty much a tie, so I let bias take over. - - B (Fine) Ninja Hideaway Tour Sydney Sprint N64 Choco Mountain - - C (No Feelings; Generally Mid) Tour New York Minute Tour Paris Promenade GBA Sky Garden N64 Kalimari Desert - - D (Bad, or at least disappointing) < (Sky Garden would be here if not for the fact that the butchered layout still makes for an ok race) SNES Mario Circuit 3 3DS Toad Circuit < (Kalimari Desert would be here if not for the changeup) Tour Tokyo Blur - - F (Somewhere a ways below bad, but not quite "absolutely terrible.") Sky-High Sundae

[@GameGuy53]

This is a pretty solid list - I can understand every placement. And you make a good point here - some of these tracks are S-Tier within the DLC, but maybe not when you compare them back to the courses from the base game. When all 48 tracks from the DLC are finally released I’ll have to do a video where I look at all 96 tracks in the game, then we’ll see what I REALLY think is S-Tier.

[@sparticle3750]

Sydney Sprint is #7?! Ur opinion ig 😂

[@tylerchristianlaw]

I heard GameGuy is allergic to Legos

[@GameGuy53]

I thought we agreed that this was a little secret between you and me! The people don’t need to know why I haven’t reviewed Lego Star Wars! I’ve said too much…

[@lincs1881]

Idk I feel like your too strict on them if you moved all the courses up a level accept s tier it would be good and also move Mario circuit three don’t behind road circuit it’s basic and that would be fine you can sacrifice certain things to make a unique experience like baby park they removed complex driving for brain dead chaos I feel m circuit three had the potential to be a very basic driving track but a fun one my making the items or driving harder I feel making the road thinner adding a bunch of boosts and oil slicks or item boxes would have made this map really shine but it faild it potential at least toad circuit gets the glide ramp to look forward to over the bridge but m circuit three just is sad

[@GameGuy53]

I’m definitely being a little strict for now but once more of the races come out and we have a fuller picture of what the DLC has to offer as a complete package, I definitely might be switching some things around based on how future waves impact the tier balance. And those are some good ideas for Mario Circuit 3, any of them would totally make it a stronger course!

[@AK_804]

Why is Waluigi Pinball lower tha Snow Land? I like Snow Land and it's my 3rd favorite track in the dlc but it's really simple.

[@GameGuy53]

A fair question - I was very torn on the placement of these two! For me personally it came down to how happy I was with the care and detail that it seems went into totally rebuilding Snow Land. Waluigi pinball was already a great looking, S-Tier course. But this Snow Land remaster took it from mid-tier to high-tier for me and I wanted to acknowledge that glow-up!

[@AK_804]

@@GameGuy53 That's why I like Snow Land! But I still think Pinball is better...also why do you not use the cartoon character gameguy53 anymore?

[@GameGuy53]

@@AK_804 It’s kinda like the story of Pinocchio, I wished and wished really hard until I transformed into a real boy. But for real it’s because I feel like it adds a little more flare and variation to the videos, gives people a real face to connect with - I’ve been working in video production for a while and I figured I may as well utilize my camera skills for the videos! Cartoon me will still make future cameos I’m sure!

[@AK_804]

@@GameGuy53 Yeah, I like videos with a real face but I also like the cartoon one. Here's hoping it makes future cameos!

[@Tatzuki]

when you talk about a track that is similar to another, but has a better layout, better music, the lap changes feel better etc. i think it does not make any sense to put it lower on the list.

[@GameGuy53]

I assume you are referring to my Sydney Sprint placement? If so, I mostly agree with you looking back on this video. Having spent more time with the track since then, I think I’ll be bumping it up a tier or two in the next video.

[@JAWNDOEmusic]

Tokyo Blur shouldve been 'C' to begin with (ESP with Shroom Ridge being considered a 'C' rather than the 'B' it deserved) but comparing one of the best DLC tracks (Syd Sprint) to Tokyo Blur is just lazy, yeah they have changing laps and a daytime city aesthetic but thats about it, Sydney's one has glider sections (and not the one inconsequential one to end tokyo blur) and a much more interesting layout, also has way more going on, harbor bridge, opera house, luna park (theme park) and even the waterside park with the rocks i cant remember the name of....Syd Sprint is EASILY an 'A' rank....and i feel like most tier lists ive seen agree, obv subjective but yeah one thing thats NOT subjective imo is the comp. you made between Syd Spring an Tokyo Blur when you break down the differences and really compare them - maybe playing them back to back would make you notice the diff more?

[@GameGuy53]

Fair enough - there is definitely a lot more more going on in Sydney Sprint than there is in Tokyo Blur. My comparison was more related to the daytime city vibe that may have brought out some subconscious PTSD boredom I had leftover from Tokyo Blur, but you’re right it might not have been enough to low ball it like I did. Hearing other peoples’ opinions on it is definitely helping me see the light on that track a bit more - I still don’t know if I personally would go A on it, since I still don’t think I enjoyed it quite as much as some of my other A’s, but bumping it up to B is probably something I’ll do like how I demoted Tokyo Blur! I appreciate your input though, comments like these help me think about the tracks differently.

[@JAWNDOEmusic]

@@GameGuy53 in fairness i posted that comment before the end of the video so you def redeemed yourself a fair bit dropping tokyo blur/raising shoroom ridge haha

[@JAWNDOEmusic]

@@GameGuy53 if u have a chance u should play tokyo blur and then syd sprint back to back and see the diff as clearly as poss

[@GameGuy53]

@@JAWNDOEmusic All good, I knew that would throw people off keeping that change until the end of the video lol. You still made good points! And I definitely will be playing those two races when I get the chance.

[@jupitervideos7702]

I think Sydney Sprint is hyper overrated. The third lap is almost completely road, and there is no Iconic standout moment from the track. It just feels generic besides the Opera house you go in for 5 seconds. It belongs in B to C tier. Paris Promenade and New York minute are better tracks. However, this is just my opinion.

[@elkarlo1593]

ExciteBike arena is really good, Baby Park too, and part of that is being a damn oval But the more ovals we get, the more stale and lame the gimmick becomes I hope Sky High Sundae is the last of these

[@GameGuy53]

Completely agree! Those are actually two of my favorite races. I also think because of the added verticality and forked paths in Sky High Sundae, the oval gimmick loses a bit of that chaotic energy that makes it work so well in those other two races.

[@elkarlo1593]

@@GameGuy53 Actually I think that the added verticality and the forked paths are a good thing, and the only thing keeping it from becoming bland and more forgettable It just needed a better layout than just an oval

[@GameGuy53]

@@elkarlo1593 I think you're right - a better layout would have made this one shine. Here's to hoping the other "new" courses end up sticking the landing a little better!

[@elkarlo1593]

@@GameGuy53 Yeah, that rumored Yoshi's Island track better live up to the rumored hype

[@apekop03]

It's ANTI Gravity not Zero gravity

[@GameGuy53]

Lol nice catch, I knew that too I can’t believe I’m really out here calling it zero gravity. Zero gravity would literally mean the cars are floating like they’re in the moon.

[@catapulf]

Me who thinks snow land is the worst course in wave 2:

[@GameGuy53]

I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings. I hope we can still be friends.

[@catapulf]

@@GameGuy53 nah everyone elses favorite course is snow land also

[@shyguytimmy]

They got rid of it's super cool shaking the entire screen for no reason gimmick that everyone complained about even tho it wasnt even that much of a hazard

[@catapulf]

@@shyguytimmy yeah now its just a boring snow course, and personally I think the track should be way for slippery for realism