The DEFINITIVE Martial Arts Ranking List

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Rob Rowland | Freestyle Martial Artist

Rob Rowland | Freestyle Martial Artist

Күн бұрын

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@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
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@seasickviking
@seasickviking Жыл бұрын
I definitely laughed over the various "internet's favorite punching bag" comments, though found myself pleasantly surprised by the addition of Bartitsu as well. You took a far more practical approach to each style than I originally expected, considering so many people stick to a simple tier list. congrats on being so different
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
That’s what we aim for here.
@Zeelandian_Man
@Zeelandian_Man Жыл бұрын
The Kyokushin crowd appreciates the shoutout of our style in your video. But might I say that when ranking Kyokushin as a style you have to take into consideration that yes, some dojos don't teach Shinken Shobu (Head punches with gloves) or takedowns and throws but at it's heart that is what Kyokushin has in it's arsenal of which some high level dojos in Russia and Japan mainly still cling to the old ways of Kyokushin-Kai and teach all of the above. Very competitive with Muay Thai as seen in many small promotions in eastern europe and places all around the world.
@VICNCRAIG
@VICNCRAIG 11 ай бұрын
Having a predominantly Muay Thai background, I was fortunate enough to train with a few Kyokushin practitioners after their gym closed - the reason for which soon became apparent. Now, I thought our training sessions were tough, but those guys were another level! I don't know whether it's representative of every dojo, but their singular objective was to condition their body and mind to be tougher than any opponent, deliberately seeking out torturous ways to train. I never encountered it to the same extent with any other of the martial arts that I experienced, and while I never adopted it to quite the level that they did, it was a philosophy I found it to be incredibly useful.
@Zeelandian_Man
@Zeelandian_Man 11 ай бұрын
@@VICNCRAIG Now that's dedication to the Kyokushin spirit... Osu. 👊🏼
@hotpopcorncake
@hotpopcorncake 10 ай бұрын
@@VICNCRAIG I did Muay Thai for a while, I noticed Muay Thai is very laid back, But you learn the technique with its training it leaves in the void "What I'm waiting here for". But in Kyokushin, I feel hyped up because it brings in the pain Oh yeaaaa! Also I previously before I learn mantis kung fu. Then I revisted my old kung fu school, after we did training. I said to my Sifu "Nice warm up when are we gonna start the training" He just looked at me like "WTF"
@olivierdelatouche9453
@olivierdelatouche9453 7 ай бұрын
As a silat master said, drill makes the skill, when you fight you use the skill, not the drill
@AKAUncleBeau
@AKAUncleBeau 5 ай бұрын
To a degree, yes. I have practiced a considerable amount of Silat, mainly "Maphilindo Silat", due to my long association with various Inosanto line students/instructors. As any other art, the transferable skill gained in any drill depends on the manner in which the drill and the skill it is to develop is taught and practiced. Many "drills" exist in a vacuum in martial arts training. Take Wing Chun sets or FMA drills, for example. Set one step away, squared to one another the series of motions devolve into rote, rythemic ritualistic motion. Pak Sau Tan Sau, Pak Sau, Punch becomes an almost meaningless spastic flurry if trained in the pure patty cake method. Same with Hubud, Chi Sao, or for any "energy" dirill for that matter that starts stationary and remains so throughout the curriculum. Kodokan Judo had it right in the beginning with kata designed to teach the technique starting at a distance, requiring tori and uke closing on one another as opposed to stagnant arms reach. The application grew more organically, posture, stance, timing, and, importantly, range where all intricatel. I can't tell you how many feed drills I have done that in the end gained me nothing in skill or understanding. I am not at all questioning their worth, just the method of their use. More drills of different focuses, at different ranges, with fewer repetitions and varying resistance, is a far more productive approach. Once the interest wanes move on to the next. Half passed training equals half ass skill.
@MatheusAlves-mt3ed
@MatheusAlves-mt3ed Жыл бұрын
ok shin kicking caught me off guard. we still need what? Sanda, Sambo, Krav Maga, Silat, savate, Japanese Jujitsu, Capoeira, more specific styles of karate cause why tf not, and other styles of kung fu e.g pak mei kung fu hung gar or wtv. there plenty of ideas for part 2 some of wich i have stolen from these same comments section and added to it.
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
Looks like I have some more writing to do
@eddiebermeo429
@eddiebermeo429 Жыл бұрын
Don one in Kendo also please.
@NoBody-xx6ii
@NoBody-xx6ii 11 ай бұрын
yep
@larryzach7880
@larryzach7880 11 ай бұрын
Japanese jujutsu/jujitsu has been brought forward into the current Era by Judo and BJJ
@trix.gm02
@trix.gm02 9 ай бұрын
There's other types of silat too, there's a martial art movie called the raid and the raid 2 (pretty sure that's what yhe8are called) but the main guy uses penkak sillat or whatever its called
@rafaelalamilla5583
@rafaelalamilla5583 9 ай бұрын
As a boxer, I can very much get behind it's placement on this spectrum. I'll say that boxing does a better job than most fighting styles at teaching you how to manage distance and develop footwork - due in part to the limitations on how one can strike. Definiltey has a lot of carry over if you decide to branch out into other styles later on.
@AISEARATOKALAU
@AISEARATOKALAU 5 ай бұрын
Yup Bruce Lee used Mohammed Ali style
@iamapokerface8992
@iamapokerface8992 Ай бұрын
its*
@IntrepidExotics
@IntrepidExotics 8 ай бұрын
Such a common topic, I miss when UFC first came out when it was all about interdiciplary competition before Gracie took it over. I've found the real life application of any system is highly dependent on the mindset of their respective schools. If schools train for tournaments, they lose on the street. If they train for the street, they just get disqualified from tournaments, lol. I think most systems with the proper adjustments can be effective in real fights, and the reason I think that reflects back on techniques being tools in a toolbox, it's the competency and discretion of the one using those tools that makes them effective or not. Harkening back to the Bushido philosophy that one should train to win with any weapon or no weapon at all.
@bassortega8083
@bassortega8083 6 ай бұрын
I took Kajukembo in 1976 . I was 23 years old when the training was still pretty brutal. I would have some my flesh on my calves pushed up on my leg. My arms, legs turned black and blue from blocking punches and kicks. I did manage to go from 190 lbs to 160 lbs. I fought in a few tournaments and improved after every tournament. I fought at the heavyweight level because our heavyweights were hurt. I leaned to immediately attack my opponents with very hard strike that sometime ended in a few seconds. The credt goes to the intense training. I never had to use in the street for protection, but it was available if I needed it. Have a great day.
@combatsportsarchive7632
@combatsportsarchive7632 Жыл бұрын
21:30 - 22:22 Some Japanese sources state the founder of Nippon Kempo (Muneomi Sawayama) was a college Judoka who often helped to defend the weak in the street. He also learned some Kumite methods from Motobu Choki who was an infamous brawler in Okinawa's red light district of Tsuji Machi and an advocate of Kake Dameshi or the original free sparring of Okinawan Karate. Those pieces of history might explain why Nippon Kempo ended up becoming what you call as a savage style of kickboxing and was far ahead of Kajukenbo as well as Jeet Kune Do. They initially experimented full contact free sparring like Kyokushin but they later adopted Bogutsuki's protective gear because they suffered too many injuries during the experiment. However, the competition in Nippon Kempo can be very confusing to those who aren't familiar with it because it can vary from semi-contact fighting like Shotokan to full contact free fighting like amateur MMA.
@avaulleegilles3317
@avaulleegilles3317 3 ай бұрын
"Shin Kicking" is such a good surprising find! .. and probably an accurate ranking.^^ Thanks for the "Dambe" introduction also. About Baritsu kind of defense style : french "Savate" was created at the same period of time (end 19th century) for the same reasons (self defense) and the same mixed approach of street combat (greco wrestling, fists & feet boxe + cane). It has been inspired by war fencing (ex : bayonet fencing) and survived until now as a sport stricking system (english boxing + shoes fencing). So, "vive la France !" ^^ Thanks for your dedication and clarity.
@genin8562
@genin8562 Жыл бұрын
I practiced karate, ninjutsu, wing chun (a little bit), mma. Currently training in bjj and a self defence class based on krav maga and panuntukan. It always surprises/disappoint me to see how low a lot of people rate ninjutsu for fighting ability. My experience has been very different, but I also noticed a lot of bs ninjutsu videos on the web, so I kinda understand where this point of view comes from.
@dsimon33871
@dsimon33871 Жыл бұрын
Your experience might be different because before you trained in Ninjutsu, you had experience in other arts... I studied the Booj for about 12 years and found that there were always teachers that were excellent, but usually not in the mainstream... Virtually all the great teachers I had, and I myself when teaching, all of us had come up in another art, learning how to muscle it, slam around, etc... By the time Ninjutsu came along, one could then appreciate the subtlety of Tai Jutsu. I just could never see how someone without that experience could appreciate these things... You need to get the taste smacked out of the mouth, see the chrome bubbles a few times lol...
@DC-rr1xu
@DC-rr1xu Жыл бұрын
It’s an interesting topic but idk how useful that chart is if you’re not gonna put oposites at the end of those spectrums. Like where do you place something that scores high in personal development but also high in rules and restrictions ? Also, idk how wrestling can score higher than MMA when MMA incorporates wrestling with other useful martial arts
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
The question becomes how useful is it for fighting
@DirtForm
@DirtForm Жыл бұрын
No MMA only guy is that good at wrestling, it’s too fucking hard and an average wrestler will just rag doll a normal person. There’s even plenty of examples of high school wrestlers throwing around and holding ground men on the ground in street fights or other real life examples. You’ll take way less damage by mitigating punches and kicks and then you can if need be slam your opponent into concrete and remain in dominant position to keep them pinned underneath or to get off them and disengage. Wrestling MVP
@DC-rr1xu
@DC-rr1xu Жыл бұрын
@@DirtForm no MMA only guy is amazing at wrestling (or any other martial art for that manner) but there’s more than one aspect to fighting. And MMA guys will be at least ok at everything. In my opinion it’s better to be a jack of all trades in a self defense/street fight scenario than a specialist.
@ZeusEBoy
@ZeusEBoy Жыл бұрын
@@DirtFormnot really, any mma guy can choose to specialize and focus on wrestling. I think a huge other reason it’s ranked high here is because it’s been shown in mma especially ufc good primary wrestlers tend to do really well. Like all the sambo fighters. But I’d put sambo directly above wrestling. It’s literally called combat wrestling sometimes. The best function forms in my opinion will always be military techniques which is why bjj is proven, sambo is good, MCMAP, and even something like Krav Maga are gonna be on top for me. Yes they can deal with some non hand to hand combat parts though like knives, environmental use, etc but I find it weird he’s separating it so much. I think three of the greatest things I’ve practiced for my martial arts are Bo, Kendo/Iado, and wood chopping or axe swinging. Especially for things like striking and wing chun.
@Joelvel
@Joelvel Жыл бұрын
MMA should be on top of Wrestling. Wrestling is important in MMA.
@jacksonmuaythai
@jacksonmuaythai Жыл бұрын
Cool video! I always love learning about new (for me) styles. Choi Lee Fut sounds cool. For the giveaway, I really need some mma gloves. I just started shotokan and they spar in 4oz gloves, which was a big change from the 16s I used in Muay Thai
@AGuy-s5v
@AGuy-s5v Жыл бұрын
Before I say anything, I'm going to encourage everyone to go find a KZbin channel called "Armchair Violence" and go watch his videos on the Keysi fighting method and Defense lab. Now with that being said: I both get, and don't get what this list is. Everything made sense, then you put defense lab promptly into fighting utility. So by that measure, this is no longer a ranking list of effective martial arts/fighting systems, you're just highlighting the intentions of the art(s) listed. Which is not the same as listing how effective the art is. There are also a lot of contradictions to this list that just scream that very little thought was placed when making this grid. How in blue blazes does kyokushin get placed far into personal development when it doesn't allow ground grappling, and bans strikes to the head? That's pretty restrictive for fighting art, your head is very vulnerable you need to learn how to attack the head and defend your own head. And how in tf does MMA get placed in rules and restrictions? MMA allows for the most styles to be able to win. From striking and getting a TKO or a KO, to taking down your opponent by wrestling or throwing and then submitting them/getting a choke, to kicking the daylights out of them, and much more that you will never find in other arts. "It doesn't allow for eye gouges, and groin strikes." Uhh, yeah, no martial art/fighting system actually allows that. Otherwise *the truly legit krav maga guys* would be walking around with eye patches, bite marks and chunks of skin missing from biting, teeth missing from said biting, and no longer be able to bear children from all the groin attacks. This list is far from definitive, if anything it is greatly flawed and highly misleading. I trusted what you had to say before this video, now I don't know what to think. Do better.
@hata6290
@hata6290 8 ай бұрын
Holy shit you kiIIed him
@kaen4299
@kaen4299 7 ай бұрын
You have some valid arguments except about Kyokushin. Personal development is literally what it says, has nothing to do with the effectiveness (and therefore how much grappling it has). That category is about growing as a person and spiritual development. As for effectiveness, striking with padded hands is just as much as restrictive as banning strikes to the head. Bare handed striking and padded striking is night and day, i'd prefer bare knuckle but head strikes not allowed over always training with padded hands. I can easily adjust striking to the head (which i did), all you have to do is keep the same technique but just train more often with a different target in mind, but bare knuckle technique and the hand conditioning takes years of practice to rectify.
@avaulleegilles3317
@avaulleegilles3317 3 ай бұрын
Arm Chair Violence is indeed a very interesting channel.
@lenart55
@lenart55 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Love the reasoning behind placements. Just out of curiosity, where would you put kudo, seeing as it originated as a hybrid of kyokushin and judo and you had both in different quadrants?
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
Great question. With that in mind, I would probably split the difference and put kudo towards the middle, but higher up in terms of fighting.
@wizeguy2388
@wizeguy2388 9 ай бұрын
I am a FMA practitioner and I think it deserves better rankings than what I see on videos like these on youtube. Yes, there are 'pre-choreographed' movements, but that is just certain drills at its core shell. You are meant to move beyond that, it's meant to build reactions to random attacks, which could occur on the street at any moment. However, I do cross train boxing, and it has certainly helped me with my panantukan. I think there's a good case to modernize some traditional FMA to fit our world today, and traditional boxing does compliment well to the empty hand striking component of FMA.
@jonasrodriguez444
@jonasrodriguez444 2 ай бұрын
Fma is not beat the opponent but to break & kill the opponent... karate & sikaran practitioner...
@massimilianosaccani
@massimilianosaccani Жыл бұрын
I really like the reasoning of analyzing the specificities of the various styles and the positioning on a graph of this type. An instructor I attended for too little time (work) included rugby players among the worst elements to encounter, I believe above all due to their daily closeness to pain and being able to carry on with their heads down anyway (he also worked and trained staff for nightclubs ) But perhaps a person who trains seriously for a long time, in addition to acquiring useful technique, will in turn learn about pain and manage it in the best way. Thank you!
@SpeakerMunkey
@SpeakerMunkey 11 ай бұрын
Not sure where you got the square stance for Wing Chun from, as that's the form training stance, not the fighting stance. But agree, it's not a practical fighting style, but it's hella fun. I would also say it should be further to the left as a lot of it incorporates Qi Gong.
@DragosWingTsunFighter
@DragosWingTsunFighter 4 ай бұрын
He didn't understand Wing Chun in general because there is just too much misinformation out there so he couldn't make a real assessment. I pick Wing Chun in a self-defense situation over anything else any day! I live in Brazil and here I am happy to have a high degree in Wing Chun - too many wannabe BJJ fighters looking for trouble and it's a myth that Wing Chun has no ground fighting/anti-ground fighting ;-)
@bremily1014
@bremily1014 10 ай бұрын
Love the video and the research
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist 10 ай бұрын
Appreciate that! Thank you
@JackMartens-xc4cv
@JackMartens-xc4cv Жыл бұрын
Terrific analysis. You certainly have a lot of knowledge of martial arts and martial arts styles.
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that. I don't know that much and this was a lot of VERY broad strokes about styles I'm interested in.
@darkythecrazyninja5228
@darkythecrazyninja5228 Жыл бұрын
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@jesusangulosolano8375
@jesusangulosolano8375 11 ай бұрын
Yo this tier list did teach me a lot about fighting styles I had never heard of before. I was wondering if you could give an opinion on kung fu. I know they've been in some mma fights but not much information aside from that
@KieranTong
@KieranTong 11 ай бұрын
Kung fu is a generic term used for the hundreds of Chinese martial arts styles. He has 2 of the more popular kung fu styles listed on his chart, Choy Li Fut and Wing Chun. Although he covers many styles here, you cant expect him to know a whole lot about that many styles. He said he is a Muay Thai and Karate instructor with just 18 years of experience.
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist 11 ай бұрын
Despite @KieranTong sounding dismissive of nearly 20 years of experience...he is right. Kung fu is an umbrella term form DOZENS of different martial arts, from all over a GIANT region of the world. We could talk about stuff like Taijuquan, or Hung Gar, Shuaijao, Chin-Na, White Crane, Monk Fist...the list goes on and on. I talked about Wing Chun and Choy Li Fut because they're two of the more popular arts, but by no means are they representative of ALL kung fu styles.
@para-cad_llc
@para-cad_llc Жыл бұрын
Can you rank fighting styles by best at survival as opposed to rules and contest? What NO RULES fighting style defeats an attacker the fastest and with most damage to the attacker. Women all over the world need to train to SURVIVE when they are out running errands. Thanks.
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
It’s gonna be MMA. If you fight effectively under rules, you can fight effectively without rules. Train MMA, once a month incorporate weapons, and do some surprise drills. Boom
@MasakanSolaris
@MasakanSolaris Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised hapkido isn't on here but I'm also surprised bartitsu is considered a practical martial art
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
I feel like I talk about hapkido a lot
@DC-rr1xu
@DC-rr1xu Жыл бұрын
This might need a part two
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
I definitely had to cut a lot out 🤔
@sergiosapori
@sergiosapori 8 ай бұрын
I have 30 years in Martial Arts. And today, I could say, in self defence 3 areas must be focused: Grappling, Striking and Knife skills. So, what are the most organized styles? For example if you go to US, Japan, Germany, Brazil or another country, Are the techniques the same? And my conclusion is Judo, Boxing and a Filipino Knife art. Just it.
@natedawg-k3o
@natedawg-k3o Жыл бұрын
Great vid as always brotha!
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@TheWayoftheSith
@TheWayoftheSith 11 ай бұрын
Sando, Sambo and Savate are great! Brutal and powerful.
@jamespage4141
@jamespage4141 2 ай бұрын
If you are truly mixed martial arts these two disciplines are good examples combat Skills to mix with Brazilian Jujitsu. Shorin Ryu has elements of free fighting, pressure point attacks, and grappling. Yes it teaches weapons but not until striking, grappling, and pressure point attacks are achieved. Silat practitioners undergo comprehensive training in a wide array of combat techniques, including strikes, kicks, joint locks, and throws. These techniques are honed through repetitive practice and application to develop instinctive responses in combat situations.
@hidetoedwarduno7681
@hidetoedwarduno7681 11 ай бұрын
Shin kicking has the most fight utility?
@justakathings
@justakathings 5 ай бұрын
The thing about taekwondo is that it’s been completely diluted for the Olympics (point fighting specifically). It was stripped of basically everything for its selling point: its kicks
@TheBdavis231
@TheBdavis231 10 ай бұрын
Where would you put Jeet Kune Do, 52 Blocks (Jailhouse rock), Sanda, and Tang So Do?
@pakeka6175
@pakeka6175 2 ай бұрын
For shin kicking, look up the original Silat CIMANDE Style.
@bizikimiz6003
@bizikimiz6003 6 ай бұрын
How would you rate sumo? amateur rishiki after 3 years of training can punch (open hand), throw, trip, push and uproot very well.
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist 5 ай бұрын
I don't know a lot about sumo, but I think the idea of controlling someone's weight and displacing them is always a good idea, and I'm a BIG fan of slapping as an open palm strike.
@iamreiver
@iamreiver Ай бұрын
"Taekwondo only focuses on kicks" Yeah in competitions. You're neglecting everything else about Taekwondo though.
@iamreiver
@iamreiver Ай бұрын
Then again, I learned Taekwondo in Korea. Maybe that's all they focus on in the states?
@zadokarrowizender3150
@zadokarrowizender3150 Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@frankiecal3186
@frankiecal3186 Жыл бұрын
Very Good Video.👌
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍
@KaratePath
@KaratePath Жыл бұрын
Ranking 3 forms of Karate without ranking the main one Shotokan 😢
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
Guess I have to make a part 2
@roncoon3464
@roncoon3464 8 ай бұрын
“KAJUKENBO! This is as Good as it gets” KA: Tang Soo Do JU: Judo/Jujitsu KEN: Kempo BO: Chinese Boxing
@alexthomas3745
@alexthomas3745 9 ай бұрын
i dont practice martial arts. i Just enjoy videos, and recently i found videos of Chintya Candranaya, an indonesian girl doing silat. Well, this style seems very aggressive, to me, but, maybe im wrong. As i know, silat is akind of junlge fight, or so... What do you think about it?
@Ruger44Redhawk
@Ruger44Redhawk Жыл бұрын
Any knowledge on Shoshin Ryu? Japanese mixed martial art utilizing a lot of Judo, Aikedo, Hapkido, Jiu-jitsu and others along with edged weapons.
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard the name but never done it or explored the style myself. Maybe that’s an upcoming video after I do some research
@Ruger44Redhawk
@Ruger44Redhawk Жыл бұрын
@CombatSelfDefense I'm no expert, but I think those are some of the styles. My kids have been taking it here in Idaho for three years now.
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
Can you send me the website for their school? Or the name of their instructor?
@TerkelKoren
@TerkelKoren 9 ай бұрын
Yk the the other day i it was a guy who wreseld like 3 years ago and he is much smaller then me and he just had me on the ground and i choudnt move
@Arafax
@Arafax Жыл бұрын
HEMA technically covers any historical European martial art including striking and grappling although you won't necessarily find them available at every school
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
Fair enough, but yeah, most times HEMA is referring to the weapons portion of the arts.
@TearThatRedFlagDown
@TearThatRedFlagDown Жыл бұрын
What do you think of catch wrestling?
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
I think it’s great. Excellent alternative for those who don’t necessarily like the “go with the flow” mentality of bjj.
@Alemanimage
@Alemanimage 11 ай бұрын
Where does Jet Kune Do and June Fan fit?
@RETOKSQUID
@RETOKSQUID 5 ай бұрын
Having grown up with MA for most my life, I find the Taco Bell Technique the best. One blast from the deep soul will send anyone running for safe air. Joking aside, in need of a new one for disabled vets with limited mobility from injuries.
@janverbanck
@janverbanck 9 ай бұрын
I've never done it (I'm a judoka), but still: I know it wouldn't be fun when you're up against a good boxer. They learn to take a beating meaning sustain real damage and pain but still not back off. No show, just Bam ! There are other similar technics out there but harder to get to a useful level (like karate, which I've done for just 2 years which is waaay too short)
@dsimon33871
@dsimon33871 Жыл бұрын
Regarding your undertaking, I am reminded of a Zen Parable. "Arriving at the monastery I saw a mountain, and it was just... a mountain. As years went on in training, that mountain became a glorious blending, a harmony of landscape and subject, a hill to climb and conquer... eventually after many more years, the mountain once again became, a mountain." If we could go back in time, I would have loved to see you make this same video after ten years of training, and would love to be around if you again make this video in another twenty years, so you could look at all three versions. I would say, for me, after almost fifty years of training, none are right, none are wrong, because you succeeded in using a nice graph that manages to work on a few different categories at once. There are always levels to the game, essential qualities that forever stand as martial arts truths. Number one, REGARDLESS OF STYLE we fight, spiritualize/actualize, develop based on HOW WE TRAIN. Number two, there actually are styles that developed from life and death combat... They have principles in the art that show WHY they survived, and WHY they were successful. These principles are in the art, and need to be found. Number three, some martial arts are better for beginners, and some are better for people with training. You were very honest about your criteria. I would just make it even more basic: "If you want to learn how to get into fights that are socially caused, and be successful, then MMA, Wrestling, Boxing, etc... Why? Because when this is not made clear, people misunderstand things and die. A Combatives originator, I forget which one, documented Honor fights in Vietnam villages. He said they all followed a similar trajectory, usually over a girl... one guy would WIN and start pounding the guy from the top, the LOSER would then pull out a blade, stab the WINNER in the Kidneys and kill him. young men and some women would all benefit from starting to train in an art that teaches basic toughness. And this art is also perfect for school yard diplomacy lol, etc. BUT these are not really arts for life and death combat. And this is where things get tricky imo. Your analysis about weapons and empty hands applies from a certain perspective. The real combat efficacy of, for example, the Samurai arts, the South East Asian Arts (big difference between Kali real Kali and Escrima btw) is not the sameness of using weapons and empty hands, it is the integration of these two elements. A real martial art makes the transition seamless, effortless. So in conclusion, I believe you did an excellent job. I also believe all of us, as we grow, will understand different levels of how martial arts styles should be understood. An art like the Gendai Arts (The Booj for example lol) to a beginner, in my opinion (having studied them among others) is usually not a great idea. My thinking goes against the grain, but imo to someone who has rocked around the mat, understand the dynamics of contact, and is ready to integrate weapons, and appreciate subtlety, the olderJapanese arts are actually very combat oriented. Thank you for taking the time to present this graph.
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. I would certainly be interested to see what your own graph looks like.
@dsimon33871
@dsimon33871 Жыл бұрын
@@FreestyleMartialArtist I would struggle trying to put something together like you did! You deserve a lot of credit for doing so.
@l0rdcroissant
@l0rdcroissant 7 ай бұрын
interesting and I'm researching something that will get me back to be lose and flowing instead of rigid because of age hahaha
@barnijasz925
@barnijasz925 Жыл бұрын
uh I'd like to get some beginning gear from xmartial for bjj or mma as I am currently on the edge of deciding what combat sport should I begin. Nice vid tho I totally agree with your ranking.
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
Send me an email to robcombatsd@gmail.com! Let’s get you some Xmartial gear!
@barnijasz925
@barnijasz925 Жыл бұрын
​@@FreestyleMartialArtistomg tyy
@jimmylinden730
@jimmylinden730 Жыл бұрын
what do you think about Hapkido?
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
Love it
@jimmylinden730
@jimmylinden730 Жыл бұрын
me to. i have just started training it@@FreestyleMartialArtist
@SaturnineXTS
@SaturnineXTS Жыл бұрын
Would really have been nice to see where you'd have put Kudo and Sambo.
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
Wait for the sequel!
@GoldrakeJ79
@GoldrakeJ79 4 ай бұрын
where is positioned jkd?
@highlanderthegreat
@highlanderthegreat 6 ай бұрын
i dont see SILAT MARTIAL art, i understand there are different kinds but i am talking about the combat and combative type
@theobaldlolworth4717
@theobaldlolworth4717 Жыл бұрын
I was hovering my cursor over the chapters of the video and since I can speak a bit of Japanese, I was utterly perplexed at shin kicking, I thought, f- what kanji/meaning could that be like shin new kicking, you got me there. 😅
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
Shin kicking is god kicking
@theobaldlolworth4717
@theobaldlolworth4717 Жыл бұрын
lol, a true 'kami waza' (god/superhuman move!)@@FreestyleMartialArtist
@mukarramkhan8345
@mukarramkhan8345 9 ай бұрын
Well, being a martial arts enthusiast, I think 4 types of martial arts cover all the aspects of combat sports and if you are good at these, you don't need any other. These are 1. Shotokan Karate 2. Judo 3. Muay Thai 4. Wrestling
@hokutoshinken-chrisarmstro131
@hokutoshinken-chrisarmstro131 10 ай бұрын
I have the exact same Din Djarin and Boba Fett in my living room too.
@Jawzah
@Jawzah 3 ай бұрын
It would make more sense to have separate categories where you rank the arts rather than opposing ends of spectrum.. It's not like rules and restrictions and personal development are mutually exclusive. Not is really combat utility and "other" - say aesthetics...
@Jawzah
@Jawzah 3 ай бұрын
Looks like we ended up more with kind of a compass that points where each art is focused rather than a "ranking list"... Not that that is not interesting but kinda makes the caption misleading.. Would be nice to get an actual ranking list in each category - perhaps bit different and more defined categories.. Say.. 1. Self defense - which is most/least usable to with bit of training for surviving 2. "Winning" a fight or an MMA match. 3. Fitness/health benefits 4. Aesthetics ( for looking cool when doing it - kata's and such) 5. Competitive sport matches (is it a sport you can easily find competition at various levels) 6. "Hobby values" (learning about history and traditions) ?
@jasonllorente6818
@jasonllorente6818 6 ай бұрын
Just a question: How long have you practised martial arts that made you an expert with all the martial arts in the world. Why don't you go to all the countries and challenge their martial arts, with no holds bar. All empty hands. Then that's when you can really rank the different martial arts properly. Thank you
@Tonydjjokerit
@Tonydjjokerit 5 ай бұрын
What about Pak Mei, Systema Krav Maga etc......? Also what about military unarmed combat?
@Maodifi
@Maodifi Жыл бұрын
Cool video! The FMA empty hand appraisal is pretty on-point. It can be really good for combat, but it requires a conscious approach to training methods because many schools are too compliant drill-reliant. I also think that defanging the snake is so problematic because it can’t be the primary focus of a martial art, it’s a difficult thing to actually achieve in real life, and the methods of “defanging” emphasized by many schools are often some of the worst.
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that. I also want to be clear, FMA is the biggest fan of “defanging the snake” but it is far from the only martial art that attempts this. Uke nagashi in taijutsu, tensho in karate….most traditional martial arts do it, but FMA emphasizes it the most
@Maodifi
@Maodifi Жыл бұрын
@@FreestyleMartialArtist Wow, that’s news to me! But I guess that would be pretty likely considering the features of those styles. Now I have something to go read about.
@Andrewquantum_
@Andrewquantum_ Жыл бұрын
2nd degree black belt in tae kwon do and high school wrestler here- definitely agree that wrestling is hands down the most effective in a street fight. I would never dream of using the showy kicks from tae kwon do 😂
@edprince9079
@edprince9079 8 ай бұрын
I notice those showy kicks are used effectively in mma. More to tkd than showy kicks.
@tophat2115
@tophat2115 9 ай бұрын
art, sport, combat three strands of the martial arts with different emphasis
@manuciantia
@manuciantia 10 ай бұрын
What's your take on Jeet Kune Do?
@AKAUncleBeau
@AKAUncleBeau 5 ай бұрын
If I agree to "take it outside" or whatever, give me boxing and Muay Thai all day. If someone clocks me, grabs me, blind sides me, Judo/Jujitsu. Self-defense is not fighting . You may be able to fight toe to toe with any man in the bar and end the night dead in the alley. Defending yourself implies a disadvantage. It is not a contest.
@johnpauljones9310
@johnpauljones9310 6 ай бұрын
The no leg attacks in Judo is a recent development (2010) and also it's not a complete ban. Secondary leg attacks are allowed if the first technique doesn't work or as a counter. If you're going to talk about something, at least learn a little bit about it.
@ezekielgarza1150
@ezekielgarza1150 9 ай бұрын
Actually aikido trains with weapons, wooden ones but still the concept is still there. I wouldn't rank it any higher but draw big wide circle in the center
@0601824
@0601824 3 ай бұрын
Agree. aikido is really depend on the practioner on how he want to develop the art.
@kurtsteiner8384
@kurtsteiner8384 7 ай бұрын
You did not goshinquai or traditional japaneese jujitsu, on nimpothaijitsu unarmed combat. These are weopns based and not generally a sport. As used by the samuraui an ninja or more corectly the shinobi of japan. Very good assesments generably, but sport arts have rules, thoes i mentioned dont.
@GadgetMart
@GadgetMart 9 ай бұрын
I disagree on BJJ, it’s great in the ring doesn’t work in a street fight. You would get your head kicked in
@DragosWingTsunFighter
@DragosWingTsunFighter 4 ай бұрын
Agreed! From someone who lives in Brazil in the main city of BJJ!
@millenial_in_the_middle
@millenial_in_the_middle 6 ай бұрын
I'm surprised as a Boxing Practicioner (non-competitive) that you ranked Boxing on par with MMA. Granted - Kicks and Takedowns don't work in a narrow environment but other than that a MMA Practicioner could take out a Boxer in an more open environment with ease if both stay in their fighting style and their Fighting Rules. But when in a situation outside, no weapons involved, facing an MMA Practicioner wanting me to fight just because he doesn't like my face, i'm not going to play by the rules.
@mkleng
@mkleng 4 ай бұрын
I think you left out SUBSCRIBE at the bottom right corner.
@TheSrXoN
@TheSrXoN Жыл бұрын
The Best martial art for stand up fighting is Muay Thai. For ground fighting it's Brasilian jiu jitsu. For clinch and grappling is Freestyle wrestling. If I would have to pick one martial art overall I would pick combat Sambo or MMA. Amin
@mjevans7434
@mjevans7434 9 ай бұрын
Its baffling how little info westerners know about authentic kyokushin. In its authentic format, the no punches to the face rule is mostly its sport aspect. It has other training methods that focus on punches to the face and what to do in street fighting situations. The students of Mas Oyama, the original founder of the art, and Shigeru Oyama, know this and continue this tradition. And its pretty common for people outside the states to know that authentic kyokushin has a sport(no face punches) aspect and street fighting aspect. Its only in the US that they dont know this lol. This guy is knowledgable but he shouldnt talk about arts that arent mainstream in the US.
@tylerkaufenberg3082
@tylerkaufenberg3082 Ай бұрын
People talk about taekwondo all the time. What about tang so do. The creator of it was JC shin. What do you think about it. I did this for 12 years.
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Ай бұрын
I love tang soo do. I think it’s a good compromise if you want TKD style kicks but more focus on punching. Unfortunately there’s not a lot of coverage of it on the Internet.
@chrismenary3340
@chrismenary3340 11 ай бұрын
What about Goju-Ryu Karate or Okichitaw?
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist 11 ай бұрын
Goju-Ryu is very good as a traditional practice and CAN incorporate some good fighting techniques. By and large, though, it's a spiritual pursuit. Okichitaw is tough to get a strong opinion because there's just not that much of it out there. It looks interesting, but I also see a very strong kenpo influence in the training methodology.
@jschwone2607
@jschwone2607 11 ай бұрын
I would have loved to see Hapkido on the chart too.
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist 11 ай бұрын
I wanted to put hapkido on there, but I already talk about it a lot on this channel.
@travelertuber9487
@travelertuber9487 2 ай бұрын
MMA + Free style wrestling X Combatives & FMA with knowing how to shoot = Win
@burneyvisser
@burneyvisser Жыл бұрын
Shin kicking as a technique is pretty effective but as a style I'm not convinced. 52 blocks and Systema and Sambo no inclusion ?. Enjoyed the vid tho
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
What about as a SPORT?
@williambreen4290
@williambreen4290 Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on vee Arnis jujitsu?
@gambini5777
@gambini5777 10 ай бұрын
I would put Aikido more to the left- it is rather a kind of TaiChi with Partner
@matreyia
@matreyia 11 ай бұрын
This is misleading and short sighted. Kyokushin and Wing Chun comments alone instantly reveal this. Kyokushin fighter would take your head clean off in a street fight with no rules, regardless of their dojo training etiquette. A proper Wing Chun person would likely destroy your vision sooner than you realize.
@matreyia
@matreyia 9 ай бұрын
@@UnjustVerdict - it would be good to read your reasons next to your opinion. otherwise, it’s just meaningless.
@thierrylagrin2859
@thierrylagrin2859 Жыл бұрын
Hi there! where are you based? London? Thanks
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
My friend, this is a Texan drawl by way of Austin.
@jtelevenoyd1571
@jtelevenoyd1571 Жыл бұрын
Good topic, well presented. Hey, how about SlapFIGHT? Heh.
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
Ooh
@iainstewart423
@iainstewart423 Жыл бұрын
If ninjutsu doesn’t work, then why do they teach it to the 22 SAS?
@iamreiver
@iamreiver Ай бұрын
"Wing chun requires you to stand square in close range with your opponent" That's just wrong.
@rickieulstrupjensen1877
@rickieulstrupjensen1877 Жыл бұрын
What about ju jutsu?
@kenfox22
@kenfox22 4 ай бұрын
Martial arts will work if you use it in the right spirit not being a cocky jerk. Judo came very naturally to me. I officially took TKD. It was fun
@sallhame
@sallhame 5 ай бұрын
Kyokushin has about 35 different punches to the head. That means, if I am attacked and have to fight in the street I always have a punch ready for the head. And they can of course be delievered with the same speed and strength as the bodypunches. But, we do not use headpunches in competition. That is a choice so adult fighters don't use helmets and wear no gloves. And our brains work ok even after 60.
@frankiecal3186
@frankiecal3186 Жыл бұрын
Folkstyle,Freestyle,Greco,Catch WRESTLING are the best.👌
@deanlichterman5248
@deanlichterman5248 9 ай бұрын
Props for a respect for bartitsu.
@eddiebustos2568
@eddiebustos2568 5 ай бұрын
Instead of judo .Shuai Chiao is a Chinese stand up grappling that retains its martial qualities.
@Mike-sv2nu
@Mike-sv2nu 5 ай бұрын
What about Jeet Kune Do?
@fuegoatx6528
@fuegoatx6528 Жыл бұрын
Were is bjj?
@mikStaH06
@mikStaH06 6 ай бұрын
Lumping all the schools and systems of the Filipino Martial Arts into one and actually putting it closer to the non-combat focused training area made it weird. I mean there's a reason it's still used here in the PH to this day by people in security and even in the armed forces.
@warrennicholsony.fernando4513
@warrennicholsony.fernando4513 Жыл бұрын
You said it yourself: it depends on how you use it.
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
I think I should clarify - it’s also about how it’s used.
@warrennicholsony.fernando4513
@warrennicholsony.fernando4513 Жыл бұрын
@@FreestyleMartialArtist Well if it is used effectively, then it works regardless of the style.
@KatoCoyoteCombatWorkshop
@KatoCoyoteCombatWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Having done FMA for the last few months I have been disappointed in what I've been learning. The instructors are very focused on lethality, there is no Panantukan and only very basic wristlocks. I don't feel like I'm walking away with anything morally or legally useful. I feel like I got more out of a single Muay Thai fundamentals class than I did out of all the time I spent doing flow drills with knives and listening to the instructors talk about exsanguinating an opponent with jugular and armpit slashes and their street fight wins.
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
This is a bigger issue than just FMA, but FMA is certainly guilty of it: not only is the training methodology dubious, but the legal responsibility one has is often grossly ignored.
@emeraldlucky1274
@emeraldlucky1274 Жыл бұрын
Because it wasn't meant for self defense. Try Modern arnis that will give you what you want, meanwhile other system such as Pekiti tirsia and Kalis ilustrisimo. Those are for killing.
@bishopolis
@bishopolis 8 ай бұрын
I can't get past the spelling mistake on the t-shirt.
@thierrylagrin2859
@thierrylagrin2859 Жыл бұрын
Strongly disagree with your last choice "Shin Kicking?"
@DR-nw3jn
@DR-nw3jn Жыл бұрын
Bro you’re talking about Jiujitsu as a sport. You do realize there’s a version of it for self defense where the teach you how to begin the fight on you feet right? In fact BJJ was only for self defense at first but Carlos Gracie started the sport side of it. Also the question of what art is superior has been settled a long time ago. Look at UFC 1,2,3 and check out the old Gracie videos where they would fight against many different fighters with different martial arts backgrounds and they would dominate.
@nataliaxd3777
@nataliaxd3777 9 ай бұрын
Seem like you don’t know much about American kenpo what you analyze what just the katas we spar and there is kickboxing in our style as well
@RemiBusseuil
@RemiBusseuil Жыл бұрын
where is the Satsui no Hado?
@FreestyleMartialArtist
@FreestyleMartialArtist Жыл бұрын
I would venture to say satsui no hado, and ansatsuken as a whole, is based on shotokan and kyokushin karate, so I could say it goes wherever I ranked those.
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