The DELTARUNE Chapter 2 Iceberg EXPLAINED

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galxie

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@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
I just wanna leave this comment to add some common notes that people had that I probably should have included as well as express my thanks for almost 600 subscribers! - The Tiny Car thing is in fact true (hesoyam 50, thanks!) - You only need the duck head to activate duck mode in the queen fight (Jackeroni Draws, thanks!) - Everyman can also be spotted in Queen's drama attack (Sans Undertale, thank you!) - There might be multiple endings? Steam page has a question mark when talking about it, official website doesn't. - The sinks might just be a reference to Sans and Papyrus' sink in their home in Undertale and I just like reading into things. - Risk is one letter off Frisk and Kris is the same. I didn’t feel the need to mention this because I personally don’t believe there’s that much of a connection. I’ll probably be proven wrong. My next video will probably be in late December talking about my favourite games of the year or OMORI, I'm during the exam period right now so can't really do much but study. Thanks for the insane amount of support this video has gotten, hope to see you in December! EDIT: I've started working on the subtitles, I'm mainly focusing on one part of the video where the audio isn't as good as the rest, but if there are any errors that should be fixed immediately please let me know. Thank you for 700 subscribers! EDIT2: Officially started exams! Won't really be activei n the comments as much as I was in the first few weeks but after exams I'll be livestreaming on the 9th of December with some buddys and watching The Game Awards! Thanks for the continued support on the video, if I do somehow hit 1,000 subscribers or this video hits 100k views I think I'll genuinely cry, so Thank you. EDIT3: It's been 6 months since this video dropped and I know I haven't been active at all but for anybody still reading and watching this dumb little video, from the bottom of my heart thank you so much for the amount of support and feedback this video received. I've read every single comment and love hearing everyone's theories and pointing out stuff that I didn't even know. Thank you all for 300k views and 1k subs. I promise, something is soon to come.
@betabee1221
@betabee1221 3 жыл бұрын
Theory: The "can anyone hear me?" hidden text is the Vessel created at the start of the game- trapped within the bunker. The scratching noise is Snowdrake & Monster Kid messing with the door.
@P4dro91
@P4dro91 3 жыл бұрын
bro why vid so small
@diamondmemer9754
@diamondmemer9754 3 жыл бұрын
I think Susie was adopted by humans That's why she is depicted as much more cruel than any other monster, as humans are able to be much more cruel than monsters, it also explains why she's ashamed of her tail unlike any other monster who has one, as she grew up in a family of humans who don't have one, just like Kris wearing fake horns to feel more like part of the family
@officialneverfar
@officialneverfar 3 жыл бұрын
@@betabee1221 It may be noelle too
@thevioletskull8158
@thevioletskull8158 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait
@taggartlemke3040
@taggartlemke3040 3 жыл бұрын
I think something a lot of people overlook is the fact that Toriel says "Asriel is visiting in a week" incinuating that the final chapter will probably end with him coming back, or have some sort of reveal involving him.
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
asriel will definitely be home for the final chapter and it will be insane
@Tulip_bip
@Tulip_bip 3 жыл бұрын
sans also said that he might let you meet papyrus around the time that asriel comes home
@TheYebruh
@TheYebruh 3 жыл бұрын
Well, since alphys said that there won't be school tomorrow in chapter 2, that means that it is Friday in chapter 2 and Thursday in chapter 1, so it's most likely that Asriel is actually going to come I'm chapter *5* and NOT 7, but maybe there isn't school because of the festival? We can only theorize about this
@Tulip_bip
@Tulip_bip 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheYebruh toriel says that asriel is coming home in a week. and considering that every chapter amounts to 7 days, he's gonna appear in chapter 7
@berrydelightdiwizin
@berrydelightdiwizin 3 жыл бұрын
But how is that "overlook" exactly? Everytime someone mention Asriel in a random theory, they also include the fact he will come home in the last chapter.
@lilharm
@lilharm 3 жыл бұрын
“Kris does something ‘evil’ when they rip the soul out” like eating the entire pie, the most evil thing ever
@mikadosannoji553
@mikadosannoji553 3 жыл бұрын
Every time kris rips out the soul he goes to noelle's house to hide under her bed
@LeivenFrestea
@LeivenFrestea 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikadosannoji553 just another sunday
@Swaggertron4000
@Swaggertron4000 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikadosannoji553 wouldnt be surprised if people took that out of context
@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon
@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon 3 жыл бұрын
Gluttony is a deadly sin...
@gasterthemaster6490
@gasterthemaster6490 3 жыл бұрын
What. No one realized that, like in ch2, kris rips their soul out to create the cyber world fountain, THEN ate the pie to justify to the player the need for freedom by making it look like an innocent thing.
@Negawatttttttt11
@Negawatttttttt11 3 жыл бұрын
Bro the puzzle thing in queens basement smiling at YOU not Kris is horrifying
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
its such a cool easter egg
@Negawatttttttt11
@Negawatttttttt11 3 жыл бұрын
oops sorry i meant the plug thing in queens basement
@thevioletskull8158
@thevioletskull8158 3 жыл бұрын
It knows
@utoobe9777
@utoobe9777 3 жыл бұрын
There also is that spamton smile in the room where you wait for the teacup ride, it was also used for one of the iceberg-layers here.
@fairlyloud
@fairlyloud 3 жыл бұрын
@@utoobe9777 the mouth looks similar to that one guy from c3 if that's when official
@Puptoon2022
@Puptoon2022 3 жыл бұрын
My headcannon for why Big Shot has Nad Dummy’s theme in it is because Spamton is an insane puppet, or in other words, a mad dummy
@stickittotheman3296
@stickittotheman3296 3 жыл бұрын
Plus the fact that the Mad Dummy/Mew Mew and Mettaton are cousins who both possess vessels, so that adds only another connection
@chorizord6974
@chorizord6974 3 жыл бұрын
Also both live in the garbage
@SomeRobIoxDude
@SomeRobIoxDude 3 жыл бұрын
@@chorizord6974 and like death
@sssleepyeloiseee
@sssleepyeloiseee 3 жыл бұрын
if you swap two letters in Mad Dummy it’s Dad Mummy
@thedistinguished5255
@thedistinguished5255 3 жыл бұрын
The music that plays when spamton emerges from trash (hello every), before his regular theme, is a sample from another track also by toby fox, currently titled "a real boy" but it used to be smthn like "i want to be a real boy" i might be misremembering but i know for a fact toby changes titles. I immediatly thought spamton is somehow a parallel to pinokio
@personman2454
@personman2454 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I’d like to believe Ralsei’s goal is actually to free Kris somehow from our control. Notice how in both chapters he intentionally has us shift our focus to Susie, and in that moment he’s clearly having a conversation with Kris.
@galxie
@galxie 2 жыл бұрын
i actually was a huge believer in this theory and hope that it has a lot more presence in chapter 3!!
@rjhicks9353
@rjhicks9353 3 жыл бұрын
ralsie IS hidding something from the player, both times when raslei asks us if we are worried about susie and we follow her, both times when we get back concluding a conversation he's haing with kris, so he knows about us and when we leave to observe susie so he can hae a talk with kris alone
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
it’s also interesting because during the snowgrave run when the moment happens we don’t follow susie and we see that kris and ralsei don’t speak as ralsei is sleeping, so it’s almost like there’s something that couldn’t have been said because we were looking
@FuroskiGoRawr
@FuroskiGoRawr 3 жыл бұрын
Ralsei*
@Gerbert67
@Gerbert67 3 жыл бұрын
bruh grammar exists you know?
@FuroskiGoRawr
@FuroskiGoRawr 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gerbert67 SUSie XDDD
@AlmondTheGuy
@AlmondTheGuy 3 жыл бұрын
or he could be telling kris about a tip, thats why he said something like "did you catch that" as if kris dozed off and the soul only saw it
@dr.loboto1171
@dr.loboto1171 3 жыл бұрын
If you ask me, the mannequin thing is probably meant to show how the addisons genuinely miss Spamton, thus making mannequins that look like him, and he reacts to it the way it does because of the old emotional wounds such a thing opens.
@KrisPBacon69
@KrisPBacon69 3 жыл бұрын
He literally have a snow spamton right him!
@dr.loboto1171
@dr.loboto1171 3 жыл бұрын
@@KrisPBacon69 Huh?
@mattwno8719
@mattwno8719 3 жыл бұрын
@@KrisPBacon69 Lol i got the reference
@hithere4762
@hithere4762 3 жыл бұрын
​@@dr.loboto1171 I don't recall which video it was, but I believe there was a video that notes some dialogue with an Addison that you can unlock after meeting Spamton where you ask about Spamton. For some reason, one of the first comments on the video said "He literally have a snow spamton right him!" and the rest of the comment section found the grammatical error so funny that if you look under the video's comments like 99% of them are just people saying different variations of "He literally have a snow spamton right him!"
@KrisPBacon69
@KrisPBacon69 3 жыл бұрын
@@hithere4762 The video name is Deltarune's Irony
@worsethanyouthink
@worsethanyouthink 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact in the fight with queen and birdly if you never loosen birdly and only attack queen birdly will break out of his control cable as well as breaking his arm in the process, it remains broken in the real world too. Further supporting that the dark world can rewrite reality similar to some spoiler heavy stuff in the rebuild of Evangelion movies
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
love that connection, such a small detail but so much attention paid to it
@SnoFitzroy
@SnoFitzroy 3 жыл бұрын
wait so it's possible to not have his arm broken at the end? lol
@worsethanyouthink
@worsethanyouthink 3 жыл бұрын
@@SnoFitzroy yeah if you just spend all your actions loosening birdlys wires, cause when he's freed it ends the fight. that's what most people tend to do.
@fullsun2236
@fullsun2236 3 жыл бұрын
yeah I discovered that because didn't understand the mechanics and mostly fought queen lol sorry Berdly
@SnoFitzroy
@SnoFitzroy 3 жыл бұрын
@@worsethanyouthink most people are cowards then - I wanted to kick his ass a third time lol
@jackeroni216
@jackeroni216 3 жыл бұрын
you dont have to have a full duck thrash machine to activate duck mode, you just need the duck head.
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
ah okay! thanks for clarifying!
@CookiedFoxy
@CookiedFoxy 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone want any chicken nuggets?
@SammPlaysGames
@SammPlaysGames 3 жыл бұрын
@@CookiedFoxy I want some chicky nuggies
@CookiedFoxy
@CookiedFoxy 3 жыл бұрын
@@SammPlaysGames **gives frozen berdly** there are your frozen chicken nuggets.
@SnoFitzroy
@SnoFitzroy 3 жыл бұрын
@@CookiedFoxy [eats it without heating it up]
@cooldude3856
@cooldude3856 3 жыл бұрын
i cant believe toby fox didnt add a honkalovania to the easter egg of car honking songs
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
he’ll find a way to put it in somewhere
@spacetaco2792
@spacetaco2792 3 жыл бұрын
11:50 There is no cat drinking the milk put out by Alphys. If you examine the bowl at the end of chapter 2, Susie tells Kris the bowl keeps refilling with free milk, so she’s been drinking it.
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for correcting me on that!
@charcoaleater343
@charcoaleater343 Жыл бұрын
​@AWildLiam Susie's element is Rude and Cat/Puppet confirmed!!!!!1!1!1!
@LittleMisZorua
@LittleMisZorua 3 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised the ‘neutral’ ending is never mentioned. The pacifist and snowgrave endings are the most well-known, and while there’s not TOO much of a difference between the neutral ending and the pacifist ending, I don’t think enough people know about it. I almost never see anyone bring this up, but a friend confirmed it. You can also activate the neutral ending by actually attacking berdly in either of his fights instead of just fighting Queen and ignoring him.
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
going to be honest i even forgot there was a neutral run! i just don’t think there’s much to talk about in comparison to pacifist and snowgrave but probably should have mentioned it somewhere!
@krissywissy8306
@krissywissy8306 3 жыл бұрын
Well I think why its never mentioned is because most people get neutral ending in their first run, I didn't know there are different endings, I spared every monster but got the Neutral ending in Chapter 1 so it was more interesting to see things about Pacifist
@brosilverlee3433
@brosilverlee3433 Жыл бұрын
@@krissywissy8306if Susie attacked anybody it will ruin your run. I didn’t know how warning worked originally so Susie attacked 1 enemy and then I spared everyone else 💀
@SansUndertale369
@SansUndertale369 3 жыл бұрын
Just want to add, you can find the everyman in Queen’s attack where all the people scroll on the side of the box and fire words at you and the queen says “drama” , there is a chance that he will appear in one of the frames, but doesn’t fire any words at you.
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
ah thanks for telling me!
@SansUndertale369
@SansUndertale369 3 жыл бұрын
@@galxie No problem! Just something I caught. 🙂
@fairlyloud
@fairlyloud 3 жыл бұрын
I only won that fight because of everyman, I slipped up and had everyone down but Susie, who was at like 5hp
@OriginalGameteer
@OriginalGameteer 3 жыл бұрын
Everyman is just lurking :)
@evervirescent
@evervirescent 2 жыл бұрын
ohh yeah i got that one!
@hsn3272
@hsn3272 3 жыл бұрын
The "tiny car" is true, I have it in my castle town.
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
thank you!! for confirming that
@hsn3272
@hsn3272 3 жыл бұрын
@@galxie Well, I forgor to say that it appears if you don't hit any cars when queens tells you to not. Not recruiting everyone. (sorry for shitty inglish)
@totoisayal5045
@totoisayal5045 3 жыл бұрын
@@hsn3272 me when the forgor
@That_Paperbag
@That_Paperbag 3 жыл бұрын
@@hsn3272 fuck i hit all the cars
@ttracs
@ttracs 3 жыл бұрын
@@hsn3272 actually it appears as long as you don’t hit enough cars for them to start running from you
@peachxslxver5949
@peachxslxver5949 3 жыл бұрын
Dess theory incoming! : i dont think that Dess is dead, because there would've been a gravestone at home town's cemetery, its also double uncertain since they don't burry the monsters bodies (since they turn to dust), they burry their favorite things. i have a feeling that Dess just disappeared one day, maybe she fell in the void where Gaster is?also,, the text in the files where someone is asking for help and saying its dark, that might just be Dess still in the void. It also explains why Noelle and Kris fell apart, since Dess was never found, Noelle never got any closure and pushed all her friends away, not wanting to be reminded of the memories of Dess. Asriel should also have been badly hurt by her disappearance, maybe that's why he moved away from home town? that's just my theory tho
@Tulip_bip
@Tulip_bip 3 жыл бұрын
in Noelle's room in the dark world, made up of her internet searches, there's a calendar on the wall that has every month marked as December and every day as the 25th. on the surface this sounds like a cute little nod to how Noelle's family is Christmas themed. but remember that Noelle's last name is holiday, and her sister's full name is December. this means that Noelle was repeatedly searching "December holiday" on her computer...
@voidfloof
@voidfloof 3 жыл бұрын
Asriel moved away because of college and he's coming back for summer vacation
@fullsun2236
@fullsun2236 3 жыл бұрын
I also think this theory is possible because Noelle in the spelling "December" cutscene talked about how they (Kris, Asriel, Dess and Noelle) used to explore the forest behind the graveyard... right where the bunker is. My theory is that while playing, both Kris and Dess separated from their siblings and tried to explore a little bit further away. They reached the bunker and Dess got sucked into a fountain. Kris didn't go to save her and traumatized, they started distancing from Noelle because of them feeling guilty about Dess disappearing and not doing anything about it. Maybe Kris tried to tell Asgore but nobody believe them, maybe Asgore did believe Kris but got fired from the police department because it sounded absolutely unbelievable for Dess to fall into a dark void and completely disappear. This would explain why Kris backed up when they first saw the fountain in the school's closet. It reminded them of the incident with Dess. It also explains why in chapter two when you go to the bunker monster kid and the other monster were calling Kris a chicken in regards to going in there, something traumatic must've happened there for Kris to be scared of that place. This is pretty much just speculation tho probably just my headcanon until the new chapters come out
@peachxslxver5949
@peachxslxver5949 3 жыл бұрын
@@voidfloof that too, but i also like to think that he left for that reason too, although that's just a headcanon so i didnt include it in the comment
@peachxslxver5949
@peachxslxver5949 3 жыл бұрын
@@fullsun2236 i like this thought!! seeing Dess in a dark world in the future would be really cool, they could even show us a flashback of her life back then :D
@LemonBluez
@LemonBluez 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I have a feeling that Chapter 3's Dark World will be a mix between a fire and water theme, with fire referencing how Toriel (a fire elemental) will likely join the party, and water referencing Undyne and Napstablook, both police officers in Deltarune and both having some connection to water, whether it's because the character is literally a fish or cries a lot.
@warblenoise
@warblenoise 3 жыл бұрын
Toriel doesn't have fire magic in Deltarune (as far as we know) and both dark worlds so far have been based on the things around it in the real world so this is kinda unlikely
@Salad_09Zel
@Salad_09Zel 3 жыл бұрын
@@warblenoise ur comment made me realise something. Toriel had a book on her lap when kris opened a fountain. Toriel could be mage, whereas undyne is a fish. Since noelle is a rudolph (snow dear) she has ice based attacks. So no doubt that undyne has water based attacks. However toriel could have a non-fire element just like you said.
@TheGusst2Gamer
@TheGusst2Gamer 3 жыл бұрын
@@warblenoise There's a line in-game suggesting that Toriel doesn't use the oven, like in Undertale, because she use fire magic.
@ImaPizzaK
@ImaPizzaK 3 жыл бұрын
the fire nation attacked
@rompevuevitos222
@rompevuevitos222 3 жыл бұрын
Dark worlds are themed around everyday items, since that's what darkners are First episode was about toys for little kids, second was about computers. This next one may be based on a TV or just general items located in Kris' house Contrary to what most believe tho, magic seems to be real. Madjick seems to exist seeing as the book in the library talks about magic requiring floating orbs and Susie/Noelle/Berdley are still the only Lightners who can use magic. This was also a plot point in Undertale (which was based off Deltarune's original plotline) where only monsters can use magic and is why the magic system was removed for Frisk before UT launched
@rayyourlocalfroggychair
@rayyourlocalfroggychair 3 жыл бұрын
About the "Kris cannot be the knight because Noelle and Berdly were already in the computer room when the new Dark World was created" thing, it could just be that they didn't fall until a few seconds after putting their books down on the table. After all, Kris and Susie didn't fall into the closet Dark World right after entering in, they had a few minutes to walk around, and even after the door closed, it took several seconds for all the papers on the ground to crumble, making them fall. So it could very much be what happened with Noelle and Berdly too.
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
that could be true as well! i can’t believe i didn’t connect that lol.
@Salad_09Zel
@Salad_09Zel 3 жыл бұрын
Susie and kris went into the first dark world standing. They also came back standing. The rooms had a different structure too. It was way bigger then the actual closet, plus it was very dark. I doubt berdly and noelle could make their way to the seats and sit down.
@rayyourlocalfroggychair
@rayyourlocalfroggychair 3 жыл бұрын
@@Salad_09Zel Like I said, Kris and Susie had time to walk a loong way, talk a bit, come back towards the door, and then had a few seconds before the floor crumbled. I don't see how it's impossible for Berdly and Noelle to have walked in, put down their books and then fell. We don't know if the position they woke up in (sitting) was the same as the position they were in before falling. The first time Kris and Susie woke up from the dark world, the screen was dark so it's impossible to know in what position they were in. It's implied that they woke up on the ground or something due to what Susie says. They also woke up in an entirely different room.
@Salad_09Zel
@Salad_09Zel 3 жыл бұрын
@@rayyourlocalfroggychair no, susie already said " is it just be or the walls are way too far away?" or something like that. This statement proves that the dark room they walked into was a different room from the actual room
@rayyourlocalfroggychair
@rayyourlocalfroggychair 3 жыл бұрын
@@Salad_09Zel I'm talking about when they wake up.
@yggdrasilsaltar
@yggdrasilsaltar 3 жыл бұрын
ok so about the “deltarune will have only one ending” thing at the very end of the video, on deltarune’s steam page it says at the very end “… … only 1 ending?” implying that there will be multiple endings to the game
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
i never noticed that! that’s very interesting
@gege1178
@gege1178 3 жыл бұрын
i have seen a theory where it says at the end of every route there will be one ending left , and that is the player closing the game for good . which is a very cool that's really interesting in a meta sense . i also have another theory where it actually has one ending but the context changes depending on the route , converging all the routes together . making it so it's technely the same ending but the whole atmosphere and meaning is different.
@danekota1512
@danekota1512 3 жыл бұрын
i read a theory that said there's 1 ending *for the player* which makes sense, since Susie and Ralsei definitely have more freedom than anyone else that has joined the party so far, specially susie,nsince we weren't able to tell her what to do in the majority of the first chapter and was immune to the choice of who to go with on the garbage zone
@robertcommonsky6248
@robertcommonsky6248 3 жыл бұрын
@@galxie That could actually be him giving a troll answer (which wouldn't be unlikely) basically translating to "There can only be one ending, after that it's over :P" It reminds me of an old goosebumps book about a theme park where a kid asks "Has anyone ever died here?" and a worker replies "Only once" and the kid goes "One person died here?!" to which the worker responds "No, that's not what I meant" and when questioned they say "A person can only die once here, no one has ever died twice" A game can only have one ending, there's never been a game with two.
@spacetaco2792
@spacetaco2792 3 жыл бұрын
It could be referring to alternate routes that still lead to the same “ending”. The normal route and snowgrave routes in chapter 2 are vastly different during the gameplay, but still technically have the same ending, where Kris opens a dark fountain in their house.
@RosabellaGolde
@RosabellaGolde 3 жыл бұрын
This guy: The blue bead signifies Berdly's death. Absolute megachads: Pipis
@ryanbehnke8107
@ryanbehnke8107 3 жыл бұрын
Pipis
@Mendoxs_
@Mendoxs_ 3 жыл бұрын
pipis
@_-daphne-_
@_-daphne-_ 3 жыл бұрын
Pipis
@Cattissosilly
@Cattissosilly 3 жыл бұрын
Pipis
@NTpowerdown
@NTpowerdown 3 жыл бұрын
Pipis
@maverickdarkrath4780
@maverickdarkrath4780 3 жыл бұрын
I actually have a very easy to miss evidence Kris isn't the knight, when you first make a save in chapter 2 you'll see Kris name on the file before replaced with your own , but there's something else 15 minutes are added to your total playtime, meaning Kris was free for 15 minutes , bearly enough time to leave his house , open the fountain, give queen her task and get back home while also eating the pie ....its quite literally impossible for Kris to do this in so little time
@Firefly256
@Firefly256 3 жыл бұрын
And the fact kris moves so slow, just like how pawns move in chess
@peppen1053
@peppen1053 3 жыл бұрын
About the unused dialogue: it reminds me of what spamton says when he becomes NEO. He mentions it still being so dark. Obviously I don’t think the one speaking in the files is spamton, but maybe it is someone who parallels to him. As speculated by others, secret bosses being related to freedom has been a recurred theme in the game so far (which is kinda hard to definitively say since we only have 2 instances instead of say, 3 or more). I hadn’t even considered the goner made at the beginning but i think it fits quite well. Toby mentioned making a boss based off our customising was too hard; which for a mini gag like the thrash machine, yeah it probably was. But for a (possibly final) lore based secret boss? I doubt it. Perhaps the goner we made at the start now follows a similar theme like jevil and spamton, and seeks to be free from the quiet darkness they got banished to. Or maybe, they will never be relevant again and I’m just going insane
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
i agree and considering the goner hasn’t been mentioned in deltarune besides the start makes me think that he’s waiting to use it for something special
@SuperSeasonChannel2003
@SuperSeasonChannel2003 3 жыл бұрын
yet Thrash Machine is a boss fight now!
@Th3DankestMemer
@Th3DankestMemer 3 жыл бұрын
I personally hope that we, the player, will be able to return to the Goner/Vessel we made at the start of Chapter 1, and free Kris from our control.
@cybergreen6226
@cybergreen6226 3 жыл бұрын
But the scratching doesn't make sense then... guess it's just another mystery we'll be able to resolve when more chapters will come out
@krissywissy8306
@krissywissy8306 3 жыл бұрын
@@Th3DankestMemer I think this could be a possibility, maybe the end depends on the route you chose. Like in Genocide we will take over Kris completely and in Pacifist we leave Kris or they just gain control over their body again
@BelleColonD
@BelleColonD 3 жыл бұрын
The "scratching" mentioned in the unused spamton dialogue might be connected to the fact that spamtons' element is cat. It's unknown why he's labelled as a cat, but the dialogue could be telling us that it's more significant than we think.
@thecoolguy4035
@thecoolguy4035 3 жыл бұрын
Dont make him a furry
@popplejam2128
@popplejam2128 3 жыл бұрын
i remember seeing a video that the element might be two elements, like how one of the elements is elec/holy, cat could be cat/string?
@AakashBalajiCyborg
@AakashBalajiCyborg 3 жыл бұрын
Someone on reddit suggested its schrodinger's cat
@xamp_exclammark
@xamp_exclammark 3 жыл бұрын
I think "the anomaly" is actually the player saving and loading,sans talks about a anomaly specifically in TIME during his battle
@derpymule7977
@derpymule7977 3 жыл бұрын
For the record, “goner” has a very specific meaning in Undertale. Of the four greyed out characters you can find depending on FUN values, the one that looks like a grey Monster Kid is called “Goner Kid” in the game files. This character is specifically the one that talks about imagining another world where everything is exactly the same, but you don’t exist (referring to the Undertale worlds corresponding to the other 99 FUN values). I didn’t know that the character creator was titled goner_maker, but it does raise some very pressing questions about how if you’re creating a goner that doesn’t exist in this world, which world does it exist in? There are a massive number of weird theories you can come up with from this, like this one I just thought of: maybe Berdly is a goner, and the world is exactly the same whether he exists or not, which is how the normal and Snowgrave routes can result in the same ending in the real world. That theory’s most likely nonsense, but I’m sure there’s some ideas out there that have much more evidence to back them up.
@qwertious
@qwertious Жыл бұрын
Well that's a chilling thought.
@fullsun2236
@fullsun2236 3 жыл бұрын
I find Everyman super interesting, like there's something off about it. I get it's supposed to be just a stickman equivalent for monsters but it's appearance throughout the game is super ominous like it's not supposed to be there but somehow sneaks in or like someone is purposely putting it in all those places.
@funnyWOMAB7048
@funnyWOMAB7048 3 жыл бұрын
Everyman also somewhat resembles a meme of a sort soldiers would scribe on places in WW2, which was called Leroy was here iirc
@funnyWOMAB7048
@funnyWOMAB7048 3 жыл бұрын
Which makes everyman extremely realistic scary enough
@fullsun2236
@fullsun2236 3 жыл бұрын
@Blackout good for u
@fullsun2236
@fullsun2236 3 жыл бұрын
@@funnyWOMAB7048 lool it really does I didn't even connect it, I wonder if Toby made it intentionally
@TheManInBlueFlames
@TheManInBlueFlames 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if this guy is the Knight!
@dmclsl03
@dmclsl03 3 жыл бұрын
Entire channel deserves more views honestly. So nice.
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
thank you so much :)
@superchinmayplays
@superchinmayplays 3 жыл бұрын
i agree
@Rockethead293
@Rockethead293 3 жыл бұрын
I once tried to do the "giasfelasghpjnskyaposiuoghu" or whatever thing and heard sans. suprised me but i remembered from a different video that it happens sometimes.
@teraspeXt
@teraspeXt 3 жыл бұрын
giasfelfebrehber
@TheManInBlueFlames
@TheManInBlueFlames 3 жыл бұрын
I also saw someone who got '"G A" Spelt out with that effect. This is also clearly a reference to the G man.
@Rockethead293
@Rockethead293 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheManInBlueFlames cool
@MaxEverywhereSystem
@MaxEverywhereSystem 3 жыл бұрын
as dark as the "berdley is dead and his body goes into the closet" theory is i think that in reality while getting snowgrave'd certainly did effect him he may actually just be unconcious. iirc monsters in deltarune still turn into dust upon death, which wouldnt make a whole lot of sense since... we seem em there. along with that some real life birds hibernate in response to cold weather in order to conserve heat so. could just be our mans in a coma
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
maybe probably! i just think it’s more impactful and adds to the story more if he’s dead and like the theory more
@bruh-px3uc
@bruh-px3uc 3 жыл бұрын
In Undertale in the lab it is stated that in some situations there is a stage kind of like an equivalent of "rigor mortis" for monsters in which after death they do not turn to dust for a while. This is how Alphys was able to experiment on their corpses with determination to turn them into the amalgams. I haven't brushed up on the exact details so correct me if I'm wrong
@derianarce2686
@derianarce2686 3 жыл бұрын
@@bruh-px3uc close, that only happens at old age tho.
@watchfulwanderer6443
@watchfulwanderer6443 3 жыл бұрын
@@derianarce2686 No, it can happen when monsters die, but it doesn't mean old age. Shyren's sister fell down, and Shyren is a young adult. All we know is that it happens when monsters are dying, and it can be reversed with DT infusions.
@josephbriggs2257
@josephbriggs2257 3 жыл бұрын
Alphys mentioned in her notes in the True Lab that certain monsters had a certain status, called “FALLEN DOWN”. It’s not a pseudonym for death since, well, monster dust, but the notes also imply that the Determination Alphys injected them with allowed them to wake back up. Maybe Berdly isn’t dead, but has “FALLEN DOWN”, which is to say basically in a comatose state; perhaps the type of state monsters are in when they’re about to die of old age or sickness? I’m not sure.
@fullsun2236
@fullsun2236 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the Gerson's Hammer entry: I read a theory saying that Alvin could be the knight, and that the line leaving the graveyard about using Gerson's Hammer is related to opening a new fountain. Something every lightner can do by gathering determination into a weapon (if a hammer could be considered a weapon too). It's actually a pretty interesting theory and it's worth checking out if you want to consider other options other than the most popular 'Kris is the knight" ones, I don't remember the user who came up with it tho.
@suckerman7gm
@suckerman7gm 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I also considered Father Alvin as a potential candidate for the Knight. The clues include how Alvin tells his father that if he was proud of him about doing something. And if you know, Gerson in Undertale knows about the prophecy of Delta Rune.
@Aven_colonthree
@Aven_colonthree Жыл бұрын
Anything is a weapon if you try hard enough
@icicleditor
@icicleditor 3 жыл бұрын
On top of a missing pixel in the queen fight, the Steam version of DR Ch1's King fight has two additional pixels.
@Datoneguy_9343
@Datoneguy_9343 3 жыл бұрын
What if the knight is dess holiday (noelles sister/ brother) they DID go missing but not outright a confirmed dead character . But dess is a lightener and as we know only lightners can open dark fountains
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
that’s really interesting and could be super cool! never thought of it that way
@Datoneguy_9343
@Datoneguy_9343 3 жыл бұрын
@@galxie exactly , and since we’ve never seen the knight nor dess it could very likely be true . But hey THATS JUST A THEORY AAAAA GAME THEORY
@mattwno8719
@mattwno8719 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think Kris' name is designed as an anagram, but is rather the fusion of the names Frisk and Chara.
@lukascisar6740
@lukascisar6740 3 жыл бұрын
Positivity awakens the Knight He is alive But he wants to sleep
@mattwno8719
@mattwno8719 3 жыл бұрын
@Blackout Chara is derivated from the word "Character", so it should be pronunciated as "Kara" *Ch*ara + F*ris*k Also Kris and Chara share a ton of similarities so the link is already there.
@Firefly256
@Firefly256 3 жыл бұрын
Probably both tbh
@PerfectZeroMusic_
@PerfectZeroMusic_ 3 жыл бұрын
28:00 This also ties in to "Goner kid" from undertale who says sth among the lines of "can you imagine a world where you don't exist? and everything works just fine without you?
@bipbopfriendtime
@bipbopfriendtime 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t want Berdly to die- he was sort of annoying but I don’t want the Mordecai rip-off gone :(
@fairlyloud
@fairlyloud 3 жыл бұрын
Worst case scenario, alphys turns him into an amalgam
@rompevuevitos222
@rompevuevitos222 3 жыл бұрын
Monsters turn to dust on death, so he isn't dead dead, but he's in a coma
@charcoaleater343
@charcoaleater343 Жыл бұрын
He isn't dead everywhere, there is more than one route
@andercraft1254
@andercraft1254 3 жыл бұрын
So your telling me the while time spamton was saying now is my chance to be a drink with 12 different flavors?
@Toby.Opolis
@Toby.Opolis 3 жыл бұрын
Really great vid Piers! Very well structured and informative.
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
glad you liked it! thanks for sending the stuff about berdly!!
@airamasu
@airamasu 3 жыл бұрын
20:22 If Susie can bleed, that would mean she has physical matter and stuff, and it might be true since Queen says something about all lightners having determination. Idk it's just my theory.
@matleo7988
@matleo7988 11 ай бұрын
A GAME THEORY
@CleetusMcDingus
@CleetusMcDingus 3 жыл бұрын
nice video cant wait for the chapter 3 iceberg in the next 100 years
@gege1178
@gege1178 3 жыл бұрын
yes me too , image how it will be 999 when the whole game is complete .
@levijacksonjr8587
@levijacksonjr8587 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I cant believe more people dont subscribe to you, It's so hard to find a youtuber who is not screaming at the top of his lungs cursing into the camera because a new awesome game got a chapter two and they have to go back and explain everything. Not to mention the fact that every single time I watch someone else's video they always have long boring commentary, but you are always on point and tell me what I came here for, not to mention that you also have genuine manners when you are speaking.
@ginniegill1026
@ginniegill1026 3 жыл бұрын
The big shot commercial has more connection to spamton that you mentioned. The guy who made the commercial was named Mike. Spamton mentions a Mike when you talk to him in his shop about friends. The comm was released in 1997, the year spamton mentions when he calls himself "EVERYONE'S FAVORITE [number 1 rated salesman1997] The mascot for the big shot soda looks almost exactly like spamton, but without the glassss.
@Average_mobileplayer
@Average_mobileplayer 3 жыл бұрын
If Kris did actually go in the bunker before he got possessed by the player then the "unused" dialog in the files might be Kris talking
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
ooooh!!! that’s a great connection
@gasterthemaster6490
@gasterthemaster6490 3 жыл бұрын
Mabye is there that kris's soul is sealed (not our soul, THEIR soul) and who talks in the files is anyone but KRIS HIMSELF.
@somethingpithy8547
@somethingpithy8547 3 жыл бұрын
Kris is a they
@RikuMcduck
@RikuMcduck 3 жыл бұрын
@@somethingpithy8547 Stop
@RikuMcduck
@RikuMcduck 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a good one!
@OrbitalPulsar
@OrbitalPulsar 3 жыл бұрын
Snowgrave route secret I found in my run couple months back: - Visit Noelle's father in both chapters - Have Kris wear Noelle's items at the end of the run - Upon leaving, Noelle's dad's room, the screen will be black while a cutscene in text plays. Noelle will be freaking out wondering about Berdly and telling herself it was all a dream, but becomes horrified when she sees you, wearing her watch. During this cutscene, if you move while the text is on-screen she will tell Kris not to get any closer. Suzie then enters the room, ends the cutscene.
@Pascll
@Pascll 3 жыл бұрын
something to consider with the "sans is from hometown" theory: in undertale, after speaking to clamgirl about suzy (who was meant to foreshadow deltarune), the text in sans' workshop will change. it'll say that there's a poorly drawn picture of three smiling people with the words "don't forget". in deltarune, we have a party of 3, and the credits theme of chapter 1 is called "don't forget". so, there's undeniably connections between sans in deltarune and in undertale, and I'd say it's very likely sans is originally from the deltarune universe.
@ultravioletcatastrophe
@ultravioletcatastrophe 3 жыл бұрын
Either that picture is of Sans, Papyrus and Gaster, or it is in fact of the main trio. That would actually make a lot of sense if you also believe that Sans can travel between alternate realities.
@Pascll
@Pascll 3 жыл бұрын
@@ultravioletcatastrophe considering how closely that letter is already tied to deltarune (you need to learn about suzy and it says "don't forget"), it's probably the main trio.
@Whos_Orion
@Whos_Orion 3 жыл бұрын
At the cliffs in the first part, I noticed something super eerie. I was re-playing deltarune and I noticed how one of the cliffs has an arrangement with the eyes and black goo that looks like someone crying and smiling.
@AbbigailNitro
@AbbigailNitro 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I find weird is asriel's final attack (first form) is called hyper goner, it could be that "goner" is a weapon and that in the character creator you aren't making someone ment to fail but rather a weapon, perhaps something to fight against the knight What's also worth noting is that the hyper goner looks like a gaster blaster, combine that with the theory that gasters the one who guides you through character customization and you got some more evidence
@zameister3957
@zameister3957 3 жыл бұрын
Another Everyman cameo: as a profile picture in Queen's drama attack or whatever
@Zizi-yx5gm
@Zizi-yx5gm 3 жыл бұрын
And the creepiest part is that he doesn’t even attack you
@Firefly256
@Firefly256 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zizi-yx5gm in undertale everyman head attack, if you tank damage and go behind everyman, he protects you
@Tulip_bip
@Tulip_bip 3 жыл бұрын
I think that every chapter from now on will have a genocide-like route that makes some kind of change to the story. but I feel like the changes will all be just minor enough for the ending to turn out the same way. the alternate route will probably just end up the same way, but a lot darker and sadder
@ruby71406
@ruby71406 3 жыл бұрын
this is a really great video!! but one suggestion: in future scripted videos, it would be cool if you talked a little slower, or included subtitles. my hearing isn't very good and i found myself having to rewind and listen over certain segments several times. this is just a suggestion though!! obviously you put a lot of time and effort in and the video turned it great, its super concise yet in depth and i appreciate you explaining everything!!
@soupystudios4813
@soupystudios4813 3 жыл бұрын
I think the tall sink is just a reference to undertale, because in Sans and Papyrus' house there's the very tall sink! :)
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
most likely! i just LOVE overthinking about things though
@gameygeemer4142
@gameygeemer4142 3 жыл бұрын
I knew a lot of these, excluding the Gaster stuff since for the life of me I could never care about him. But really? It's Duck Mode? I thought it was Suck mode, since it sucks HP, and the Duck Machine is constantly called out as sucking
@bethmassey3299
@bethmassey3299 2 жыл бұрын
12:47 I think I remember hearing that it is a homestuck reference of some sort, but I don’t remember what it is to.
@enemykiller30
@enemykiller30 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say that the Ralsei hiding something theory is true, its his feelings for Kris, he likes Kris, but afraid to get rejected by him, that's why he hides it.
@dreamofyouandi
@dreamofyouandi 3 жыл бұрын
It definitely goes deeper than that my guy.
@addyssyndowdy4149
@addyssyndowdy4149 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: cap'n's dance is a reference to strong bad's dance and sweet cap'n cakes is a reference to sweet cuppin' cakes.
@skyrimlover777
@skyrimlover777 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin reccomended is pulling through with these like half an our long info dumps from small channels that cut the bullshit and get to meat of their topics. Great shit my guy!
@Crygear
@Crygear 3 жыл бұрын
i have completed your wish galxie, and now i will still be here for the ride and hope for the best for your career
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@caltheuntitled8021
@caltheuntitled8021 3 жыл бұрын
I have a few theories/notes for the unused dialogue. First, when inspecting the house next door to Catti’s, it says you hear scratching, like the unused dialogue says in chapter two. Maybe they’re just trapped in there? Second, I think it’s possible that the dialogue Spamton says just before “what? I didn’t hear anything just now. But it sounds like they were talking to you” is actually that character talking through them somehow Third, I think the character might be Dess. Perhaps she got trapped in a dark world or even in the code itself. Fourth, the first half of the dialogue was only present in chapter one while the second half was only in chapter two. It looks like we’ll get more information on it as chapters continue to come out. I made a page about the dialogue on the deltarune wiki that had much of this information on it, but they decided it didn’t warrant its own page and got rid of it. As far as I know, there isn’t any information about it on the wiki at all.
@iamcoolright7114
@iamcoolright7114 Жыл бұрын
Also the man references how in Undertale papyrus will fight you in undertale but also really doesn't actually want to fight but wants to be in the royal guard although before the date he is very happy to see you
@whiskeredwolf4861
@whiskeredwolf4861 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a theory floating around on Tumblr that Ralsei isn’t a Dark World version of Asriel, but actually a version of Kris that they made in their head. Think about it: Ralsei has the red headband that Kris always wore, and he’s everything that Kris probably wants to be: kind, understanding, always willing to help, and most importantly, he’s a goat monster like the rest of Kris’ family. He’s Kris’ ideal self, or at least who they wanted to be when they were a kid.
@broly8579
@broly8579 3 жыл бұрын
Spamtons unused dialogue is probably more shop option dialogue where he would glitch out and say that
@scrp6638
@scrp6638 2 жыл бұрын
Spamton is freaky. Lines like: “WHY AM I NOT [Big] ENOUGH?!” or: “STAND UP TALL WITH OUR HEADS IN THE CLOUDS AND LOOK INTO *H E A V E N”* The fact that Spamton is a mirror of Kris is scary for Kris themself.
@kangoo1434
@kangoo1434 3 жыл бұрын
25:46 Fun Fact: The Knightmare Knight song was a fanmade track by Toby for a comic named Cucumber Quest, there are other tracks that were made for Cucumber Quest aswell such as the Soundmaster's Theme, which has motifs of Mettaton's theme
@sircasino614
@sircasino614 3 жыл бұрын
I feel weird for doing it, but I always have to have english captions on when a UK (British?) accent pops up. The words feel like they merge from one to another in a mumbly way, and then the volume of the accents voice tend to almost whisper what they're saying at random intervals. Something I notice on anyone with the same accent.
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
I'll try to edit the subtitles over the weekend and try to improve on this. Thanks for bringing it to my attention :)
@InumiDarkness
@InumiDarkness 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I want to mention about The Knight is that Jevil in chapter 1 also mention him in his post-battle dialogue after you pacify him. I quote: "A NIGHTMARE WILL AWAKEN IN YOUR HEARTS. IN THE SHADOW OF THE KNIGHT'S HAND... LIGHTNERS, CAN YOU STOP IT?" It's another proof that Jevil knows more than he should.
@Dewwy2
@Dewwy2 3 жыл бұрын
15:43 Its real I got it from not hitting cars
@TheRealSwordSurvivor
@TheRealSwordSurvivor Жыл бұрын
26:13 Do you notice how the song's name is the KNIGHTmare KNIGHT? Toby had a vision for this game's ending for a while, and this was made in 2015.
@admiraltechno1350
@admiraltechno1350 3 жыл бұрын
Hot tamale what an amazing video Thank you so much for making this!
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
its my pleasure! thanks for making the iceberg :)
@bongnut876
@bongnut876 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I was with him when he was making the video and he couldn’t stop gushing abt u and how much u helped him so thanks for helping out my friend, u a real g
@danielbueno8474
@danielbueno8474 3 жыл бұрын
One detail I think you might have missed about the number of the beast and I didn't see anyone point out in the comments yet: While it is already known that the bunker's sound is the "Entry #17" noise slowed down, you have to raise the speed of the bunker sound by exactly 666% to match the regular speed of "Entry #17". Great video dude, I can tell you put a lot of effort and care into making it. But please, if possible, try to talk a bit slower and more clearly next time. English isn't my first language, so I had to go back and listen again to what you said like 5 or 6 times sometimes (and the auto-generated subtitles couldn't comprehend what you were saying either), so that made it difficult to understand some parts, while usually most videos I watch in english I can understand everything just fine. But again, awesome video!
@DragoonDyte
@DragoonDyte 3 жыл бұрын
The “I Was Just Warning You LMAO” was perfect for a spoiler warning
@galxie
@galxie 2 жыл бұрын
oh my god how did i miss that... there's always next time...
@thatoneenvy
@thatoneenvy Жыл бұрын
10:10 - Isn't that OUR soul, not Kris's soul?
@weegepeege222
@weegepeege222 3 жыл бұрын
I hate how the answer for things we don’t know yet are just “gaster”
@galxie
@galxie 2 жыл бұрын
it'd be so funny if gaster had nothing to do with deltarune in the end
@kip8018
@kip8018 3 жыл бұрын
17:58 I love that toby fox added the wrong color pixel in queens fighting area since king's fighting area had one on mistake and fans were talking about it as a easter egg.
@pteroid11
@pteroid11 3 жыл бұрын
I keep hearing Weird Route as Weed Route
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
secret route where you give ralsei weed
@LilTJ507
@LilTJ507 3 жыл бұрын
I think Susie saying to worry about what's outside the bunker before inside it is Toby saying not to theorize about it right now.
@bigballfeetman4000
@bigballfeetman4000 3 жыл бұрын
This video has been identified as satisfactory.
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
thank you bigball feetman
@zeke8648
@zeke8648 3 жыл бұрын
💪😤👍
@jaggermorks6020
@jaggermorks6020 3 жыл бұрын
You are handsome young fella
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaggermorks6020 thank you jagger fella
@jaggermorks6020
@jaggermorks6020 3 жыл бұрын
@@galxie no worries cutie
@Matrix77776
@Matrix77776 Жыл бұрын
The tiny car is real if you don’t hit any cars in the driving section a tiny car will appear in castle town
@Dum176
@Dum176 3 жыл бұрын
6:56 I'd like to bring up a counter point. I believe that susie and kris's roles should be changed. Yes in chapter one I could understand this but in chapter two susie has friends and doesn't try and attack people immediately, only if she has a reason so I believe that she'd not be a genocide but an attacking route. Kris would *naturally* be truly neutral. But you see. Kris isn't the one in control. You are. You can choose what they do. You can make them into a caring person or a creature more of a monster than susie.
@snartsnart2718
@snartsnart2718 3 жыл бұрын
i think berdly might be in torpor (a kind of bird hibernation) because of him being frozen, he didn’t get dusted so he’s not dead yet but the only way to bring him back might be going back downstairs and unfreezing him somehow or darker still maybe because he was killed but kept fully intact by the ice his body couldn’t disintegrate and that’s why he’s still whole
@The_Mushroom_King_
@The_Mushroom_King_ 3 жыл бұрын
"Risk" So your gonna forget thats one letter away from *Frisk* from undertale?
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
yea lol
@prolouge1061
@prolouge1061 3 жыл бұрын
risks lol
@brewingboy5549
@brewingboy5549 3 жыл бұрын
A few things about the Snowgrave Route during the epilogue 1. If you equip Noelle’s Silver Watch in the Dark World, during the Snowgrave Route, there will be some special dialogue with Noelle. During the scene after talking to Noelle’s father, where the screen is totally black, Noelle will start talking about how it was “just a dream.” When she notices Kris standing there, she has some special dialogue, saying “Kris… why are you wearing my watch?” 2. Also during the scene after talking to Noelle’s dad, if you move once Noelle sees Kris, she’ll tell you to not come any closer.
@thebandanadee8265
@thebandanadee8265 3 жыл бұрын
I think the theory about Kris not being the knight makes a lot of sense. Plus, them being the knight would be MUCH too predictable.
@spugnoxngubcux9801
@spugnoxngubcux9801 3 жыл бұрын
11:26 I think it should be noted that this is the same room where we first see the Berdly statue earlier in the chapter. And where do we find him in Queen's mansion?
@isathena
@isathena 3 жыл бұрын
28:54 isn’t that just a reference to the tall sink in sans & papyrus’s house in undertale ?
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
PROBABLY! that makes more sense LMAO
@TheSixteen60
@TheSixteen60 3 жыл бұрын
I think I’m starting to realize that deltarune has the same theories as all the games by valve
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
what specific theories? cause that's really interesting...
@TheSixteen60
@TheSixteen60 3 жыл бұрын
@@galxie like, what happens next
@warblenoise
@warblenoise 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSixteen60 What do you mean
@AshenDust_
@AshenDust_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSixteen60 care to explain?
@Star.Ast3r
@Star.Ast3r 3 жыл бұрын
Really suprised me with that Megalo strike back at the end.
@ItsWolf0
@ItsWolf0 Жыл бұрын
When the voice says, no one can choose who they are in this world, it is most likely referring to the fact that if our vessel was randomly inserted without backstory, we would stand out. In the BIG SHOT vocals, you can hear “It pulls the strings and makes them ring, until you heart startsBREAKINGUP” Almost like spamton is trying to warn Kris, but we, the player, realize so he stops. Which also ties to ralsei. In chapters 1 and 2, he asks us to focus on what Susie might be doing. This is so ralsei could possibly talk to Kris while we aren’t paying attention. In this world, we are a parasite controlling whatever we can, and perhaps others like spamton are being controlled too.
@misscookiesncrime
@misscookiesncrime 3 жыл бұрын
The implication that sans came from Hometown is even stronger when you find that in Undertale he has a picture of Kris, Susie and Ralsei in his drawer in the room behind his house.
@rompevuevitos222
@rompevuevitos222 3 жыл бұрын
No he doesn't, lol It just says "some people you don't recognize", doesn't mention anyone in specific
@misscookiesncrime
@misscookiesncrime 3 жыл бұрын
@@rompevuevitos222 That isn't what it says, actually. it says 'It's a poorly drawn picture of three smiling people. Written on it... "don't forget."' While it doesn't directly say it's them, it could not be more implied to be them, what with there being 3 people, and the note saying "don't forget", literally the end credits song of chapter 1.
@rompevuevitos222
@rompevuevitos222 3 жыл бұрын
@@misscookiesncrime 3 people could be anyone Let's say it was Susie and Kris, then who else? Ralsei? At what moment does Sans form a friendship with him? Noelle? I don't see her being that big of a character Asriel? He may arrive at a way later chapter, there's definitively not enough time for Sans and Asriel to build any significant relationship It's way too open ended to just say it is the main party
@misscookiesncrime
@misscookiesncrime 3 жыл бұрын
@@rompevuevitos222 Yeah except for the fact that it was text meant to tease Deltarune. This is Toby Fox and sans we’re talking about. Why in the world would he add something like that that’s so obvious talking about his next game and just have it mean literally nothing when it’s in the house of one of the most enigmatic character and known time traveler? This text wasn’t in the game at launch, it was added in a later patch. While yes it can be open ended, it would make literally no sense for it to not be the 3 main characters, which by the way, wasn’t even the entire point of the original comment, which was to imply that sans from Deltarune is sans from Undertale despite it being a supposed alternate universe. You’re literally just trying to disprove something for the sake of doing it, not because you have any real reason for why it’s not them.
@rompevuevitos222
@rompevuevitos222 3 жыл бұрын
@@misscookiesncrime Again, it IS probably meant for Deltarune, but we don't know WHICH 3 characters it means exactly Knowing Toby this may be part of a bigger plot twist Remember that not even half the episodes are out atm and there is a chance that we get an extra 2 chapters after the initial 5 We can't draw conclusions based only in the content we have so far, specially when the entire plot has already been planned out
@GuyWhoWatchesStuff
@GuyWhoWatchesStuff 3 жыл бұрын
19:35 I think the text could be Mike, or whoever we saw at the TV at the end of the chapter, as the darkness could be from the TV being on and the "scratching" could be static coming from the TV
@yeahman6907
@yeahman6907 3 жыл бұрын
Kris is an anagram of Frisk, but the f is gone. Frisk had the freedom to make choices, but Kris doesn’t. That’s why the F dropped off
@clawcakes
@clawcakes 2 жыл бұрын
actually the F in frisk stands for fuck
@TotalGoatHead
@TotalGoatHead 3 жыл бұрын
27:50 listening to this reminded me of a possible scenario, what if we were supposed to take over a different body as a user but instead something went wrong and we took over a person (Kris) who already has a consciousness and that's why they conflict with us (the player)
@updatedautopsyreport7358
@updatedautopsyreport7358 3 жыл бұрын
I believe Dess has something to do with the Bunker and the unused text
@Taha_A
@Taha_A Жыл бұрын
“Ralsei is hiding something from us. This is a theory that suggests that Ralsei is hiding something from us.” Bro said the same sentence twice
@robtodd1542
@robtodd1542 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it would make sense for sans to originate in hometown, Because if you watched this one game theory video about Deltarune being a prequel instead of a sequel, there are many clues to support this. One being that Bratty and Catty don’t know each other. There is one theory from Game Theory that states that Sans is a darkner. Because when you defeat Sans he bleeds from his stomach, And monsters don’t bleed. They take damage and turn to dust when they die. And darkners- *I forgot the evidence to prove they bleed* There was some evidence to support they do bleed, and in Deltarune one, You can see Sans door with fire under it in one part of the game. (I SAW ALL OF THIS FROM GAME THEORY/MAT PAT)
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
i don’t watch game theory at all but that is an extremely good theory, i wish i did so i could include that in the video lol. thanks for commenting that!
@robtodd1542
@robtodd1542 3 жыл бұрын
@@galxie np!
@robtodd1542
@robtodd1542 3 жыл бұрын
@@galxie oh and I forgot to add- You may think sans blood is ketchup, but monsters food turn to energy- they don’t digest.
@graysongdl
@graysongdl 3 жыл бұрын
"It's impossible for Kris to have created the fountain because Berdley and Noelle are sitting" Uh... how? That's like saying it's impossible for Kris and Susie to have entered the dark world after the fountain was created because they're by the light switch when the fountain is sealed, and therefore had to have been in there before the fountain was created. Your position in the light world when the fountain is sealed hasn't meant anything yet, besides that fountains may be connected to light switches (which would make sense if true because they replace dark with light when used). The "each character represents a different route" thing doesn't make a lot of sense in my book. It would only really make sense if it was possible to do a genocide run with Susie. She's not even present for the closest thing Deltarune has to one, making the connection flimsy at best, just slotting the choleric, phlegmatic, and melancholic characters into each role. I don't think the "Dogcheck prevents the player from seeing spoilers for the next chapter" thing makes any sense. Toby has two "games" worth of experience by now, he KNOWS people will take everything apart. The only way for people not to see something is to not include it. Besides, what kind of chapter 3 spoilers could the unused rooms possibly have? It'd be weird for him to just include spoilers in placeholder dialogue for no real benefit. I'm confused, because you mentioned "the anomaly" and talked about it being Gaster or something, but made no mention to the fact that all evidence points to the idea that we, the player, the anomaly in both games, is literally controlling Kris. Also I feel something that a lot of people overlook with the "there is only one ending" thing is that Deltarune is literally confirmed (as you mentioned) to be Toby's attempt to create the ending he saw in his dream. Everything that happens in Deltarune is just setup for it.
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
with the berdley and noelle are sitting part i more meant that they had set up their books and were sat down by the time that the fountain was created, meaning that kris couldn’t have created the fountain because they were with susie as noelle and berdley were already in the dark world (sorry if that doesn’t help i just woke up as i’m writing this). the anomaly was referring to how frisk was “possessed” by chara in undertale, im not the most knowledgeable person on undertale lore so if i got anything wrong there i apologise. the characters fitting into each role part was actually related more to chapter 1 as that part was written before chapter 2 came out, but I should have updated it to add the part about chapter 2, although personally i still felt like it held up. the part about spoilers honestly i think i was just saying stuff and trying to come up with ideas on what else toby could be hiding, i don’t believe he would put spoilers intentionally but maybe an unused mechanic or something left in accidentally. thanks for watching the video though, a lot of it is just speculation and theory on my part.
@graysongdl
@graysongdl 3 жыл бұрын
@@galxie Ah, that makes sense. The whole "Chara is possessing Frisk forcing them to be evil" thing is a really old theory that somehow gained a lot of supporters in the early days of the Undertale fanbase. Nowadays, the general understanding is that it's all the player's doing, and Chara had nothing to do with it. "The anomaly" is, as far as I know, a made-up concept by the fandom. Sans does mention "an anomaly in the time-space continuum", but he's referring to an anomaly by its usual definition: A bit of data that's out of place with everything else. He elaborates on what the anomaly is: Timelines jumping left and right, stopping and starting. This is caused by reloading using determination, as both the player and Flowey had done. I think it's basically a game of telephone that turned it into what a part of the fanbase thought it was for a while.
@Averyskellyboi
@Averyskellyboi 8 ай бұрын
As someone who replayed ch2 just to get the mini car I can confirm it is real and was a pain in the ass to get
@eb924
@eb924 3 жыл бұрын
huh translate EGG to wingdings... you get the move of the chess pice of the kight...
@galxie
@galxie 3 жыл бұрын
saw that theory, real interesting
@eb924
@eb924 3 жыл бұрын
@@galxie it really is
@van8739
@van8739 3 жыл бұрын
25:15 the sink thing is actually a reference to undertale, just not what you might think. In sans and Papyrus’ house you can see a comically tall sink for storing bones under which is being referenced here
@williamswonderland3636
@williamswonderland3636 3 жыл бұрын
The knight is toby fox
@RikuMcduck
@RikuMcduck 3 жыл бұрын
@Celestial Cloud I AGREE
@redstonemacanic2434
@redstonemacanic2434 3 жыл бұрын
13:00 My theory is Kris is some sort of combination between Frisk and Chara, since you can take the Ch- and put it with the ris of Frisk to make their name, but it’s still kinda a long shot, it’s not comepletely impossible. It’s possible the SOUL is Frisk and Chara, being the goat family’s adopted child in Undertale, is Kris who fills the same role and wears uncannily similar clothes. A similar theory I heard is that the reason Kris’ SOUL turns yellow is due to its possible former experiences in Undertale. Also at the 29:00 Tall Sink is probably a reference to Sans and Papyrus’ sink from UT where it is unreasonably tall
@goldbloxxer8833
@goldbloxxer8833 3 жыл бұрын
Man behind the eggs.. eggs comes from birds then that means.. *THE MAN BEHIND THE EGGS IS A CHICKEN!* OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE I DIDN'T KNOW THIS.
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