The Dendro Element's Biggest Mysteries Explained (Genshin Impact)

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@AP.DistribuZone
@AP.DistribuZone 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed that the "delay" of dendro added more hype and interest in 3.0 compared to new region only. If ever Fontaine -- more advanced, futurisitc style, introduce a new type of weapon or new gear (again to add something to look forward to apart from new region), then I would believe the aforementioned re dendro is true.
@oliviyeves
@oliviyeves Жыл бұрын
I really hope they introduce a rifle type of weapon, like those elegant old style ones. I believe it would fit the character and nation design really well
@cuscoothriyas5163
@cuscoothriyas5163 Жыл бұрын
​@@oliviyeves if they do firearms mihoyo would really get me to start whaling no cap
@manoharalisa5829
@manoharalisa5829 Жыл бұрын
@@oliviyeves rifle are for modern theme. So no.
@Pandora880
@Pandora880 Жыл бұрын
​​@@manoharalisa5829 are you stupid or dumb? Rifles were around when people still wore armor to war. Not to mention, don't you think big mechs shooting lasers and missiles are also only for "modern themes"? Yet genshin still has those. We already have fatui with gun, it's really not that much of a reach
@powguma
@powguma 2 жыл бұрын
Have you heard of the 'Fridge' comp? This utilizes Cryo not having any reaction with Dendro and being able to coexist with Dendro on enemies. Basically, you apply Cryo on Dendro as an extra layer so that Dendro can be used longer with Hydro. So yeah, Cryo may already be functioning as devs intended. Geo, on the other hand, has room to grow I think.
@jekjekr8813
@jekjekr8813 2 жыл бұрын
he mentioned how freezed enemies can make blooms hit more basically describing fridge teams
@Gnurklesquimp
@Gnurklesquimp 2 жыл бұрын
If burn's gauge wasn't nerfed it would've also allowed melts, it could've been such a clever way to give the elements synergy yet again. That said, it's still technically possible we might get Dendro chars that do slot well in some melt teams, I'd love to see that, since we're probably not getting a burning buff across the board.
@user-sd7ms3sy9q
@user-sd7ms3sy9q 2 жыл бұрын
@@jekjekr8813 Hes describing CC not fridge.
@acerbus1146
@acerbus1146 2 жыл бұрын
Fridge is kinda... cope. Like it's not weak but is it better than conventional 2-cryo teams? Nope, at least at the moment.
@Gnurklesquimp
@Gnurklesquimp 2 жыл бұрын
@@acerbus1146 It's probably the sorta thing where both bloom's dmg and freeze's utility would have to be designed around in either Abyss or a character's kit/weapon/artifact set. That's a lot to make up for though, maximizing cryo dps is kind of a no-brainer in freeze cause of how crazy Blizzard Strayer is, and cryo resonance makes it even better. Hell, even burning could still be incorporated into melt down the line, but I am still a little bit bummed these two aren't very competitive in general, I don't expect artifact sets that make them valuable outside of minor niches. If we get higher world levels, current Dendro is an option for puzzles while still having a functional freeze or melt team, but current open-world you can just not use your 4th character if they mess up reactions. + in open world I usually put Bennett into freeze setups just so I can infuse pyro into anemo when I see a cryo enemy anyway
@michapiasta3072
@michapiasta3072 2 жыл бұрын
Also reason why agravvate is weaker than spread is the fact, that you can buff electro dmg in many ways, kazuha, vv shred (10%stronger than dendro shred) and many characters constelations. While dendro have only 30% shred now
@khanhnnguyen4678
@khanhnnguyen4678 2 жыл бұрын
Techinally aggravate only works for character has weak, some how dmg is buff based on EM, and fast atk speed.
@KwissSummers
@KwissSummers 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why dendro/cryo/anemo and geo don't have more reactions is because if you have access to all these different reactions at once, it becoming harder and harder to control what reaction you're trying to achieve.
@froeloe
@froeloe 2 жыл бұрын
this is already happening now if your team has dendro, hydro, electro and anemo. You could trigger: Electro-charge, bloom, hyperbloom, swirl electro or swirl hydro, quicken, aggravate or spread. they will all happen beyond your control more often than not. but it’s kinda unfair in my opinion that 3 elements don’t react with dendro and the other 3 can. using the reason “it’s gonna be more complicated if we add more reactions” is lazy design and poor planning. i look at adding reactions between dendro + cryo, geo or anemo as a means to have more team comp options. it’s gonna be complicated either way anyway. but amidst the complication, i’d rather have many options than less or nothing. having choices is always a good thing.
@unknownbutawesome8759
@unknownbutawesome8759 Жыл бұрын
@@froeloe I mean if you have dendro/hydro/electro/anemo, you're probably aiming for as many reactions as possible anyway since all of those things benefits with EM which achieves its purpose. (Especially as swirling electrocharged is already pretty OP). Having dendro react to all element may be good on paper but in practice it would probably overwhelm the gameplay which makes them difficult to approach
@froeloe
@froeloe Жыл бұрын
@@unknownbutawesome8759 “probably”
@unknownbutawesome8759
@unknownbutawesome8759 Жыл бұрын
@@froeloe well same thing as using hydro and cryo, you probably want consistent freeze
@froeloe
@froeloe Жыл бұрын
@@unknownbutawesome8759 thats for hoyoverse to figure out-how to not mess reactions despite many reactions. perhaps they could extend the duration of certain auras when affected by dendro so other reactions can still thrive and not get messed up. it is not an impossible task. It’s a game. Programming can allow this. bottomline for me is that making dendro react only to half of the elements is, in my opinion, lazy design.
@Kebatsuru
@Kebatsuru 2 жыл бұрын
The cyno gameplay in the beginning of the video hurts 💀
@AnaHernandez-ge1mi
@AnaHernandez-ge1mi 2 жыл бұрын
That's torture for cyno mains
@marclenraymagdaraog691
@marclenraymagdaraog691 2 жыл бұрын
They really missed out on Dendro + Geo reaction.. :| like Dendro + Crystalize could have been creating a special Dendro Seed. something that leans more into shield that if collected it gives you buff :| like crit or something.
@sativaoryza8648
@sativaoryza8648 2 жыл бұрын
the only shame is Geo that is naturally supposed to be able to interact with dendro cannot do so
@manoharalisa5829
@manoharalisa5829 Жыл бұрын
Geo + dendro = grow/thorn/
@wildfire_
@wildfire_ 2 жыл бұрын
basically: burn bloom -> hyperbloom (pyro) | (hydro) (electro) V \ quicken burgeon (electro) (pyro) / \ spread aggravate (dendro) (electro)
@Lionhart1991
@Lionhart1991 2 жыл бұрын
Geo is the only problem here for me, it's not bad that some elements have secondary means with dendro, i like it and to add more usless (burning and burgeon) reaction just for the sake of it it's not a good thing: It's better to have sub interactions that works (freeze and bloom, swirl to proc the dendro reactions) well that a complete new one that suck. Zhong is the only carry for the geo element (yun jin is also a super good unit) and the only reason we see sometimes a x2 geo comp is thank to him (the golden duo, him and Albedo or a hyperinvested mc) bc the golden duo gives so many buffs and damage, or a mono geo team bc this is how geo works at the moment, 1 broken flex unit (zhong, yun jin), 2 broken units (zhong and bedo/mc) to support 2 other or a mono geo team
@Rajan_Rout
@Rajan_Rout 2 жыл бұрын
Did you just ignored Itto?
@Lionhart1991
@Lionhart1991 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rajan_Rout i said mono geo
@shadi2962
@shadi2962 2 жыл бұрын
yun jin isn’t a Geo carry, she has barely any synergy with Geo teams at all. she’s a bad character to go with most Geo characters other than Noelle. Gorou is the geo carry, not Zhongli, he buffs the offensive and defensive capabilities of the team a lot. Noelle can easily replace Zhongli’s shield for resonance, or crystallize your favorite non-geo’s skills and pull with Gorou. Zhongli turns survival to easy mode but isn’t necessary most Geo characters have something that makes them very useful at something but this is already getting long, but Geo characters have good abilities that don’t rely on reactions
@Lionhart1991
@Lionhart1991 2 жыл бұрын
@@shadi2962 i mean that she isn't a carry but she is a good flex unit for AA characters
@britoguerreroleonardo9274
@britoguerreroleonardo9274 2 жыл бұрын
@@shadi2962 all people that see zhongli a "non necesary" character forget that he can shred 20% of all defenses
@jordanw9220
@jordanw9220 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I think I'm overstepping my boundaries by saying this but I hope they add more characters that alter reactions. Perhaps even a character that can make mini minions from crystallize crystals, it probably wouldn't be strong at all, but it'll shift something up.
@dojiz7242
@dojiz7242 2 жыл бұрын
I hope so as well. Characters that alter reactions have more room for experimentation, compare to changing the base reactions for everyone.
@Rebber
@Rebber 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing Hoyoverse, they most likely are taking their time with filling the gaps on Dendro reacting to Cryo, Anemo and Geo. And plus one could say that if they ever make those 3 elements react, it'll get players to come back/new players to play, and it would feel refreshing again with different playstyle, just as how the current Dendro reactions feel
@razvyz8067
@razvyz8067 2 жыл бұрын
They replied to that and said basically no so thats not the case
@itsbrewgacha
@itsbrewgacha 2 жыл бұрын
ur wrong the answered this is in the interview bc “the reaction system is fine how it is and we dont wanna make players confused with it”
@AA-cf4es
@AA-cf4es 2 жыл бұрын
No. Don't believe in them too much.
@astikach666
@astikach666 2 жыл бұрын
My first comment: In your background footage, when playing cyno, you are supposed to hit E when the eye appears on screen. It deals more damage that way. It's honestly triggering that you miss every single eye. Second comment, what the additive reactions (aggravate and spread) favors is quantity of attack, not quality. Multiplicative reactions focuses on how much damage a single hit can do, while additive reactions focuses on how much damage you can do overtime.
@tyshen0329
@tyshen0329 2 жыл бұрын
to add to your second comment, multiple electro/dendro dps in the team can abuse the whole catalyze rxn together, while in the standard multiplicative rxn team, it's usually only one unit that gets to abuse it (with the exception being funerational team).
@sirajthecatlord9811
@sirajthecatlord9811 2 жыл бұрын
Hoyoverse: There will be no new Geo reactions to prevent the system from getting too complex. Players: What about the Dendro reactions that you created. Hoyoverse: We don't talk about Dendro-ro-ro.
@BadassHatdog
@BadassHatdog 2 жыл бұрын
who knows, there might be a transformative geo character in the future, like how Nilou enhances dendro cores into bountiful cores.. so them saying there won't be any changes to geo is still on-point but they could still bypass that statement in other ways
@manoharalisa5829
@manoharalisa5829 Жыл бұрын
@@BadassHatdog Yes i think Geo will shine on Natlan..
@aliceutsubyo2164
@aliceutsubyo2164 2 жыл бұрын
Man, hearing all that talk about "Certainly they'll add more combat-related stuff" at the first couple minutes of the video is hurting my soul, that gamespot article man...
@Kellexyz
@Kellexyz 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao... :c
@madddhe735
@madddhe735 2 жыл бұрын
I think they should rather focus on the enemies and how each element affects them and make it more drastic, not like that annoying wooden shield enemy but more interesting reaction like plant enemies hit with hydro spawn smaller enemies just like bloom or if hit with electro they could become very fast but start to wither away or loose def as if they are growing old or if they die with pyro they explode. Possibilities are endless and it wouldnt make ghe gane overly complex since its ties to a specific enemy.
@lxncexzs
@lxncexzs 2 жыл бұрын
your idea of plant enemies having reactions is kinda the dendro chicken already tho
@madddhe735
@madddhe735 2 жыл бұрын
@@lxncexzs you mean the boss? Well either way i never knew of such a mechanic since you just ignore everything the enemies do as they pose no threat which is another issue.
@R.I.P_clan
@R.I.P_clan 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta respect how this guy doesn't jump on hype trains and just does his own thing
@RyzawaVT
@RyzawaVT 2 жыл бұрын
This gives me hope for the future of reactions, definitely hope eventually they come, dendro seems pretty neat overall
@harfi212
@harfi212 2 жыл бұрын
All the element already complete, i dont think they gonna implant more. What i think they gonna do next are introduce new type of weapon to hype fontaine update.
@bhavya5692
@bhavya5692 2 жыл бұрын
@@harfi212 there are two more elements remaining aswell , the light element and the abyss element , and dain is going to an abyss user , he has been confirmed to be playable acc to cn playerbase.
@nazaabdo1292
@nazaabdo1292 2 жыл бұрын
Can we agree that is really triggering how he missed every eye proc during Cyno's burst at the starting background footage 😭💀
@adir6094
@adir6094 2 жыл бұрын
literally the only thing i was thinking of skjbhg
@Redbeardblondie
@Redbeardblondie 2 жыл бұрын
SERIOUSLY, I couldn’t pay attention to what he was saying because of it!
@lukeadriel2564
@lukeadriel2564 2 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that you chose Port Ormos' theme as your last bgm. 👏
@Gnurklesquimp
@Gnurklesquimp 2 жыл бұрын
This is kinda unrelated, but isn't it crazy that, next region (Fontaine), we'll be at 5/7? Just 2 more areas following this formula after that.
@phyrexian_dude4645
@phyrexian_dude4645 2 жыл бұрын
Now that Electro its in a good spot, they just need to adress two issues. First, the lack of Dendro units, which would be solved over time but we really need them if we want to keep making more teams based on the reactions. Second, the GEO problem of basically not working with everyone else. Seriously, cristalize its really not doing anything else when picking a shard besides getting better defense to X element. Only Yunjin is barely doing something with it and requires constelations to do so.
@aayyyooooo
@aayyyooooo 2 жыл бұрын
I see that you do not have Jongli? His pillars resonance with other geo constructs is useful in creating bonus damage via crystallize, and his skill or passive provides shred. This is a large part of the reason he's considered one of the best geo units. My Albedo also does 11k crystallize dmg per dot, so having a decent damage/support who can create shields via crystallize is not useless. I do think geo is niche, and I'd like to see more from it, but I understand it's about shielding while providing damage, so I don't think it's a useless element. I think it's buff in like 1.4 did what we needed to make geo usable, essentially.
@phyrexian_dude4645
@phyrexian_dude4645 2 жыл бұрын
@@aayyyooooo I do have Zhongli and Albedo, as mather of fact my triple crowned Noele its my pride and joy, but you dont really use them at all for the Cristalize reaction. In fact, regardless if they do or do not make a reaction they will do their Geo damage. And here is the issue and what i mean, there is no interaction with the crystals besides the shields. C4 Yunjin DEF bonus by picking crystals its the only real interaction that exist and the artifact sets of shields barely count when there are better options of damage out there.Bbut outside of that there is no real reason to actively try to make a team centered around the reaction... well C6 Albedo also enter here but... lets be honest most people wont whale that hard for that.
@pyronado4320
@pyronado4320 2 жыл бұрын
@@aayyyooooo his pillar resonance is not a reaction. Also albedo usually does around 25-30k dmg per bloom but crystallize shield is literally useless because you need to build em on non em scalers and even after that the shield only reaches Near 3k hp on higher investments
@froeloe
@froeloe 2 жыл бұрын
@@aayyyooooo ​you are conflating character kits with the element itself (and the element’s reaction). geo characters are great because of their kit, not because of their element or reaction of their element. crystallize is a waste of a reaction and needs a major rework. what it offers is easily and readily invalidated by shielder characters. there are no team centered around crystallize because it is essentially useless and poorly designed. when you use zhongli in a team for example, you use him because of his shield and his shield’s shred, not because you want to procc crystallize. you use him for what his kit offers, not for what reaction geo can do.
@Friki_gameplays
@Friki_gameplays 2 жыл бұрын
The main reason for not having a Dendro Anemo or Cryo reaction may be balancing, considering how you would slot Anemo units in almost every team, not sure about Cryo, maybe because freeze is too strong, considering the fact of dificulty not being a big factor, it may be due to being overused rather than overpowered. I personally think that they should rework superconduct into something like quicken (keeping the phys res reduction so phys teams don't get affected). Unlike freeze-bloom or dendro swirl there isn't any interaction that gets messed up by changing a reaction (or lack thereof), since no one ever uses cryo+electro outside of physical dmg, resulting in superconduct not being present at all, not even as a byproduct of something else happening. This improved superconduct would scale with EM due to Cryo not having an EM playstyle, considering how melt is a multiplicative reaction, freeze (the reaction itself) not having dmg and reverse swirl not being a thing, meaning that all the dmg comes from talents and personal dmg. As for missing reactions, they could go the Nilou route and make it so reactions are different for a certain unit, like an overload units that suctions instead of blasting, or geo/dendro swirl, maybe a magma themed character, or a unit that weaponizes crystalize reactions, they could even make reverse swirl a thing if they make a unit that ads an Anemo aura to enemies.
@popeneiad7968
@popeneiad7968 2 жыл бұрын
My god the gameplay was too triggering every time you didn’t use Cyno’s E passive that I can’t finish the video
@FinnianRowland
@FinnianRowland 2 жыл бұрын
It should be possible to have a reaction with Dendro together with Cryo. Now I can’t put my main Chongyun with Nahida, they won’t work together.😞
@illusionarieee
@illusionarieee 2 жыл бұрын
there kinda is... Fridge which makes the Dendro aura last longer
@kimkardashi-un2.051
@kimkardashi-un2.051 2 жыл бұрын
@@illusionarieee only if you freeze them first tho
@shadi2962
@shadi2962 2 жыл бұрын
@@kimkardashi-un2.051 ?? the hydro hit that does bloom is also the one that freezes them… you only need to put cryo on dendro or vice versa
@Kellexyz
@Kellexyz 2 жыл бұрын
there's something that bothers me why the community ignore electro utility a lot, EC being able to have hydro and electro on the enemies is something people ignore, overvape dmg is something not to be scoff at and if the knock back from overlord is annoying, having a cc character (usually anemo) will patch the problem, EC helps with chain reaction, there are many top tier team using the idea of chain reaction one of the popular one is succrose-fischl-kokomi-xiangliis anyways nice video 👍
@sweetillusions5495
@sweetillusions5495 2 жыл бұрын
Thing is though outside of Sukokomon those 'chain reactions' make up a very small portion of your team's damage output. It's not undervalued when it's not providing that much value to begin with, only notably strong thing about it is being able to trigger 4pc VV for both Hydro and Electro without all the extra hassle.
@Kellexyz
@Kellexyz 2 жыл бұрын
@@sweetillusions5495 not really, just search soup team, sunfire jean, etc, those team output just as much dmg as ur usual vape team or more, just cause the number ain't big doesn't mean you can ignore the millions of small numbers, especially in mobing content, EC overload swirl are being proc by ur anemo character and those dmg adds up since ur already building full em anyways
@joe_simon
@joe_simon 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kellexyz Sucerose Taser or Sucerose Salad (Hyeprbloom) are two other options.
@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_
@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@sweetillusions5495 let's take a popular team, like Raiden national, into account. This is a popular team mostly because of its simplicity, but a reason why it is strong is that it incorporates both amplifying and transformative reactions. Xiangling in this national variant triggers both vaporise and overload (commonly termed "overvape"). Assuming good investment, you can expect 30-40k pyronado vapes and around 10k overloads. This means that overload contributes to 25-33% of Xiangling's damage, which when taken into account across the rotation is a significant amount of damage, and can compete with the boost that VV provides.
@blazn0
@blazn0 2 жыл бұрын
Geo plus dendro should have bin sprout. Entangles enemies and slows them down. Also sprout plus pyro increases the burning effect.
@zollen_boyyy6419
@zollen_boyyy6419 2 жыл бұрын
0:57 - 0:59 my hands are itching so hard lol that poor timed E mannn.......
@elizabethvein4328
@elizabethvein4328 2 жыл бұрын
I like the thought of having future elements/reactions ^^ If they decide to add more "elements", I feel like abyss(dark) vs divine(light) would be a (stereotypical but) neat addition Also geo reactions please mihoyo? Catalyze is lonely over there.... Thank you for the vid ^^)/
@anshin8923
@anshin8923 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, ur thoughts on dendro. This is what I've been waiting for sometime now
@Wazards
@Wazards 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if geo and dendro reaction was reducing enemies elemental resistance by 15%. That would be so good
@unknownbutawesome8759
@unknownbutawesome8759 Жыл бұрын
So basically all geo character becomes zhongli lmao
@leafdragoon8551
@leafdragoon8551 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they finally added my favorite element to the game I always loved Wood/Nature element since I always picked the grass starters when playing pokemon as a kid. Good to see that the delay for Denro's release allowed them to refine the reactions more than some of the launch reactions. I hope they do the same for the Light & Dark elements they've been teasing and also the other polarity for Electro.
@crazyman7504
@crazyman7504 Жыл бұрын
Other polarity ?
@leafdragoon8551
@leafdragoon8551 Жыл бұрын
@@crazyman7504 It's been confirmed that Electro has 2 polarities like electricity in real life. But we only get to use to the purple one while the yellow one is enemy exclusive.
@Hlebuw3k
@Hlebuw3k 2 жыл бұрын
I would love if in the future, Dendro + Cryo would make a similar reaction to Superconduct, to increase physical damage. Currently, physical is kind of underwhelming.
@manoharalisa5829
@manoharalisa5829 Жыл бұрын
No ice and plany are not related, geo and dendro are related.
@UnrealityZero
@UnrealityZero 2 жыл бұрын
I think one of the most important aspect of reaction that you kind of touched is order of element application Amplifying reactions suffered the most from this with the horror stories of Xingqui Vaporizing instead of Hutao Transformative reactions also suffered since the wrong order of application on an Electro-Charged means that all the EM on a character just wouldn't matter Swirl could get around this by not having an elemental Aura so it's impossible to trigger a Swirl on anyone but the Anemo character who has the EM Catalyze and Bloom are also like this allowing characters to really take advantage of their EM Spread can only be triggered by the Dendro character, Burgeon can only be triggered by the Pyro character and Hyperbloom and Aggravate can only be triggered by the Electro character
@cimex7492
@cimex7492 Жыл бұрын
I think Geo should have a reaction with Dendro that leads to more interactions with other elements, like Bloom. Plant roots break down earth, so a new soil-esque state should have interactions with other elements. Fire smelts sand into glass, so the Smelt reaction should provide utility, like reducing enemy RES as glass is fragile. That's one example.
@dracov333
@dracov333 2 жыл бұрын
2:41 "...makes you think that they are certainly going to continue building the combat..." Gamespot interview with genshin dev: "allow me to introduce myself"
@dani-chan5655
@dani-chan5655 2 жыл бұрын
I was lowkey confused at first with all the new reactions so maybe they didn’t wanna overwhelm us
@LISA.WANG.
@LISA.WANG. 2 жыл бұрын
12:11 Not thematic but one reason I love dendro not swirling (maybe it'll have smth completely new) is that we were hinted at it during all the Collected Miscellany that characters couldn't swirl Dendro
@fefega
@fefega 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be honest, before Sumeru, I've never used the traveller (after the gacha tutorial). But Dendro is so interesting, and the reactions boost my current team's capability, that I just HAD to use it. Thank you Sumeru, very cool.
@twilightvulpine
@twilightvulpine 2 жыл бұрын
Dendro is interesting but we really needed a Geo+Dendro reaction. It would make both thematic and mechanical sense because Crystallize is already nearly useless.
@Mutualititve
@Mutualititve 2 жыл бұрын
While I do love new dendro reactions, just wish burning will get a buff due to the fact that it is possibly the worst reactions in the game and could hurt your team because it take away the dendro previously applied to the enemy. Maybe do something as simple as burning stack or occasionally explode pyro.
@EntityEX21_Finn_notfound
@EntityEX21_Finn_notfound Жыл бұрын
I like the fact that the hyperbloom is a Naku weed from inazuma which is electro
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094 2 жыл бұрын
Remember the "Buff Electro" debacle. Now that can finally be put to rest.
@batinthesoup3715
@batinthesoup3715 2 жыл бұрын
I said it before and i'll said it again Make Burning enemies more vulnerable to Pyro attacks so characters that deal couple instanses of Pyro dmg will have more dps Or just made it like the other 2 reactions When the target is burning you can either attack him with Pyro for more dmg, or Electro for the same thing but lower, or something like that And yea, i just feel bad for characters that doesn't fit in with other characters like Amber or Thoma
@ericmcadam2647
@ericmcadam2647 2 жыл бұрын
Great video man, thanks!
@imrandpm
@imrandpm 2 жыл бұрын
that cyno gameplay footage will keep me up at night
@leegunring
@leegunring 2 жыл бұрын
miHoYo temporarily does not release Dendro in order to keep hole cards in their hands, which gives them a good chance to rebalance the game. That's why they choose to release Dendro halfway through the player's journey. I'm still a little disappointed though, as it doesn't provide any crowd control (e.g. growing vines to affect enemy movement) I say this because the current crowd control (freeze, petrification) will completely incapacitate the enemy and is OP, which causes miHoYo to make some larger elite enemies completely immune to it, as long as this enemy is often greatly displaced will put the player in a passive position
@vans2548
@vans2548 2 жыл бұрын
The main tool for adjustment left is enemy design, leyline disorders and arena design. Time to see how creative they wanna be.
@Youmu_Konpaku_
@Youmu_Konpaku_ Жыл бұрын
I think Dendro being limited at the moment is fine, if they added them all at ince it's going to be kne hell of a mess onscreen
@kwayke9
@kwayke9 2 жыл бұрын
Dendro+cryo works fine now, but I wish we had a transformative reaction that can actually crit
@lxncexzs
@lxncexzs 2 жыл бұрын
im pretty they’re kinda basing their reactions on real life tho? Electro + Dendro makes sense because irl electric does help with plant growth. Freeze, Melt, vape, electro charged, blooms are self explanatory. Fire and Electric also explodes when in contact which is why there’s overload. Meanwhile, ice/cold temperatures only kills plants (which is why leafy vegetables goes bad when inside a fridge) so there’s not really room to make reactions based on that. Also the reason why geo has the worst reaction, because rocks in nature doesn’t really react with anything in general.
@lxncexzs
@lxncexzs 2 жыл бұрын
and you cant really make cryo + dendro just increase the damage of either because that’s basically just aggravate/spread reaction. And even so, spread is there already so thats a no no, and cryo has melt which increases ur damage by 2x and that will obviously be much better
@Gnurklesquimp2
@Gnurklesquimp2 Жыл бұрын
If Dendro has done well for them but they don't quite wanna add a new element yet, I guess they could finally remember phys is a thing
@justasimplenobody2666
@justasimplenobody2666 Жыл бұрын
I think a "permafreeze" mechanic of some kind would be cool; whether thru Dendro and Cryo directly or Dendro+Hydro then Cryo, it could be like an extended version of Freeze or maybe even cause Corrosion for a period after unfreezing; or being immune to the shatter effect. Just something to have a connection between cryo and dendro so cryo mains can capitalize from all the dendro-leyline-effect abyss trials since sumeru dropped 😂 Like oh great another floor my main will gain no benefit from cuz the effect is for catalyze, bloom, hyperbloom and burgeon *again*. 😂 Everything else about dendro is pretty darn good to me tho even after all this time.
@frozenflava
@frozenflava Жыл бұрын
Been so long since you streamed:( today's scaramouche's spotlight
@duranvt3856
@duranvt3856 Жыл бұрын
Great video, only thing I hate in this video is how you don’t use your E when the eye appears in his burst
@yuuzelthyc9683
@yuuzelthyc9683 2 жыл бұрын
the devs implemented dendro so seamlessly. it's also very unique and fun
@shapoosi2684
@shapoosi2684 2 жыл бұрын
Oh hey, you're back!
@fancimaski
@fancimaski Жыл бұрын
I think that Dendro can't be swirled because Dendro slimes existed before Dendro characters. this meaning that players could theoretically swirl the Dendro effect onto other mobs and activate effects that were not meant to be activated.
@mismismism
@mismismism 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of reactions that are delayed and double reactive like this, I hate that it has no reaction with Geo though, not only makes sense thematically but crystallize is already really underwhelming along with Geo characters basically only working well with other Geo being so limiting so at least having 1 other option that synergizes would have been really good IMO.
@Scrayla
@Scrayla 2 жыл бұрын
seeing how that cyno was played hurts me physically HAHAHAH
@zevuu_
@zevuu_ 2 жыл бұрын
They shouldve at least added dendro swirl would be so cool
@the7observer
@the7observer 2 жыл бұрын
geo+anemo = sand *angry Anakin noises*
@pyronado4320
@pyronado4320 2 жыл бұрын
They haven't hinted on a new geo character for a while and I really don't want to see another nilou that bends the existing reaction rules
@Ethan-yd4gn
@Ethan-yd4gn 2 жыл бұрын
Edit: nvm he literally addressed it right after i typed this The recent interview with the genshin dev has me worried about the future of dendro reactions. Its a bummer that geo×dendro, cyro×dendro, and anemo×dendro dont seem like they're going to become actual things
@Psusanoo
@Psusanoo 2 жыл бұрын
After hearing that their won't be a another "endgame" or just another place to try your hand and challenge something head-on with your "dream team" it really turned me off.
@null_100
@null_100 2 жыл бұрын
love your videos!!
@kek-wing
@kek-wing 2 жыл бұрын
Love the thumbnail 💚
@adiaphoros6842
@adiaphoros6842 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason Anemo and Dendro don’t react is because of Spread, which already acts like Swirl.
@arocomisgamusclademork1603
@arocomisgamusclademork1603 2 жыл бұрын
Except not continuously damage
@housedropper7263
@housedropper7263 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what they plan to do with geo. Most of the geo units only really work with geo units with a few exceptions.
@joe_simon
@joe_simon 2 жыл бұрын
I think you have your answer. Geo is the isolated element. Geo is the Mono element. Best with itself but not great with others. While this makes it the weakest element it also has the advantage to never be bad except Geo immune enemies and shield checks. That's it. So that's the role in the game. And this is good. This makes Geo very unique though also very isolate. And i think this is good balancing. Every game has strong and weak types/characters etc. But while Geo is weak it isn't unusable. And this is important. Would Geo be unusable it would be bad balancing. But Geo does its job good. Being always okay but never great. It's neutral.
@jikannomajo
@jikannomajo 2 жыл бұрын
Contrary to popular belief, I think Geo is fine as it is right now. There's nothing more to add to it, really.
@housedropper7263
@housedropper7263 2 жыл бұрын
@@joe_simon I've been a geo main from the start and I never thought the element was weak. It was just its own thing, but I do wish there were more defensive reactions aside from crystallize and even for that reaction, nobody builds a geo character with EM for it.
@housedropper7263
@housedropper7263 2 жыл бұрын
@@jikannomajo More defensive reactions maybe? I'm not really one for ideas, but I've noticed that only Albedo, Zhongli and Yunjin are used outside of geo supremo teams.
@smr010
@smr010 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Cryo always felt way too powerful, that's why they decided to skip cryo reactions with dendro, at least for now. But honestly, it feels quite interesting to use cryo in a dendro + hydro team as a way of freezing while not messing dendro element reactions.
@1971taks
@1971taks Жыл бұрын
Dendro really has branches of elemental reacrions huh?
@LeaksHater
@LeaksHater 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, could you link the interview you are referencing? (10:13)
@zoettesy9676
@zoettesy9676 2 жыл бұрын
Anemo will not infuse with Dendro because they will have to reanimate all Anemo characters’ infusions e.g. Sucrose hypostasis, Sayu
@rendition55
@rendition55 2 жыл бұрын
People are always complaining that Geo has no use, but how would you feel.if Zhongli's shield reacted like Pyro. Sure it would have offensive utility but his team comp would be drastically limited. Geo being Non reactive is exactly what makes it, in the larger scheme of the elemental power system, useful. We just need more units to show it's worth. Yunjin, Gorou and Ittou for example brought new offensive utility.
@hanin3128
@hanin3128 2 жыл бұрын
As much as i love dendro my go to abyss run, still consist on my Kamisato duo freeze team, Eula/Raiden duo comp 😂 who knows maybe Nahida might make me clear the abyss with a dendro centric team
@dt3688
@dt3688 Жыл бұрын
It feels like it’s been a year since you last uploaded. What’s with the hold up?
@werh227
@werh227 2 жыл бұрын
It's sad that Geo is the only element without any damage with its reaction...
@manoharalisa5829
@manoharalisa5829 Жыл бұрын
But it become magic shield.. so that is the reaction.
@4_youtube_is_dead
@4_youtube_is_dead 2 жыл бұрын
Getting over the barrier
@azzip5863
@azzip5863 2 жыл бұрын
about the 10y roadmap, iirc they reduced it for 5 years (from now on)
@yuvx8516
@yuvx8516 2 жыл бұрын
I know you rarely talk on the meta side, but i think catalyze really did a good job at setting up the power floor while not making the power ceiling not too high unlike multiplicative reaction which creates rich get richer situation. Meanwhile there's fischl which is already good become fucking busted. I love how 1.0 characters always been a mistake in game balancing terms one way or another.
@JMike-bq6rl
@JMike-bq6rl 2 жыл бұрын
I wish the Elemental system was like: Fire>Ice>Electro>Water>Fire With same 2x/1.5x dmg as Vaporize and Melt reactions. So Dendro could take Electro's place in the middle....as the Buffer element.
@yuvx8516
@yuvx8516 2 жыл бұрын
Rock paper scissors system are boring man. This design choices heavily encourages you doing mono element team instead of the more fun team building we currently have. Just look at Hi3 which your team building boils down to basically just checking what type the enemies are weak to and changing your main dps accordingly.
@yoihenbaakoijam6974
@yoihenbaakoijam6974 2 жыл бұрын
Dendro is literally the best support.
@rootaccess9181
@rootaccess9181 2 жыл бұрын
The Spiral Abyss is one of the most effective ways [for] players [to] test out their party composition and combat strength. If we design another type of permanent endgame that is similar to the Spiral Abyss, it might end up creating excessive anxiety for our players--not everyone is interested in Musk Reef.
@caparashon
@caparashon 2 жыл бұрын
There's one thing I don't have clear from catalyze reactions. I see there's a level multiplier in the formula so it obviously increases it, but is it worth it to take aggravate DPS characters (Cyno, Keqing...) all the way to level 90 like with other EM-liking characters? Or is it still like with atk scaling characters where the improvement isn't enough to justify spending that much mora and books from lv 80 to 90?
@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_
@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_ 2 жыл бұрын
Cyno and Keqing both trigger aggravate frequently, and levelling to 90 represents a significant amount of increase to the aggravate base damage, so I think they are worth bringing up to 90, at least after everything else (weapon, artifacts, talents) is sorted out
@hulahupjingga
@hulahupjingga 2 жыл бұрын
I feel *_excessive anxiety_* knowing these
@elknolasshrineofraja3966
@elknolasshrineofraja3966 2 жыл бұрын
❤❤
@remirousselet6867
@remirousselet6867 2 жыл бұрын
Rather than a 8th element, I wonder if we could have either a bi-element character or one that is adaptive? I could see some characters have a skill with one element, and their burst use a different one. Or we could have a mechanic where a skill/burst deals damage in the same element as character's infusion. So Bennet C6/Candace/Chongyun could change the element of a skill/burst. These wouldn't introduce new reaction, yet be a new unique elemental mechanic
@mike_purple
@mike_purple 2 жыл бұрын
Welp, the video was good and stuff, but i still dont understand which reactions benefit from crit and which dont. Can you eli5 in a manner "reaction - benefits"
@CubeCityBoy
@CubeCityBoy 2 жыл бұрын
Quite interesting, tnx
@eertikrux666
@eertikrux666 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to think that they left out cryo because it’s already too op. It can freeze enemies which is a kind of crowd control; it can deal big pp dmg with melt; superconduct is the only reaction that benefits phys dmg; and not to mention cryo resonace increases crit rate
@ianesgrecia8568
@ianesgrecia8568 2 жыл бұрын
This is going to fail so hard if they actually implement more dendro reactions on the future and just didn't because didn't want to overwhelm the players. Just like that other fatui video lady that swore Captain was number 2 and 100% the geo yaksha without any actual bases. That was fun
@pinacolada8040
@pinacolada8040 2 жыл бұрын
god it hurted to watch you play cyno
@lordtartarsauceb8348
@lordtartarsauceb8348 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the idea of dendro. However all the multilayer reactions are too much of a pain in the ass to be fun. Well it may be more accurate to say the damage we get out of multilayer reactions isnt worth the complexity.
@Redbeardblondie
@Redbeardblondie 2 жыл бұрын
I had to stop looking at the video and just listen, watching Cyno being misused just hurt my soul… Do you not realize you should use his Skill when the eye pops up? It makes the Skill deal way more damage AND extends the Burst’s active time significantly!
@LizardKingRequiem
@LizardKingRequiem 2 жыл бұрын
I will forever stand by the thought that these reactions make little sense, seriously theres no logic or reasoning for why dendro reacts with electro and not cryo or geo. Its PLANTS!!!! PLANTS GROW IN SOIIIILLLL!!! Im getting an aneurysm thinking about it
@rxvld
@rxvld 2 жыл бұрын
oot but oh my god the cyno gameplay playing in the background keeps distracting me because you NEVER hit the skill on time 😭
@UNCOMFYPILLOW
@UNCOMFYPILLOW 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not an expert ... But watching and analyzing the video from beginning to end, I can not say anything because as I said at the beginning, I'm not an expert
@martinelelele
@martinelelele 2 жыл бұрын
11:52 0.25 speed look at raiden lmao
@charginggemo8340
@charginggemo8340 2 жыл бұрын
Please, for the love of everything holy, hit cyno's skill when the eye is on your screen during the burst. I beg of you
@arocomisgamusclademork1603
@arocomisgamusclademork1603 2 жыл бұрын
Take A note, where's Sacrificial polearm type?
@KrisPBacon69
@KrisPBacon69 2 жыл бұрын
There will be none because of lore reasons, there's a video about this
@gil1934
@gil1934 Жыл бұрын
I miss you
@UDX6T
@UDX6T Жыл бұрын
Dendro should have had reactions with geo. Huge missed opportunity.
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