The Destruction of Film

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@TheKinoCorner 3 ай бұрын

You can help train the Swipe dataset here (only works on mobile): swipe.futo.org/ Also, be sure to read the description to get some more info. I've talked to some people who collect and restore lost media and will hopefully be doing interviews with them on the channel soon.

@emperorpelican8187 3 ай бұрын

man thank you I go to any other channel for a movie review and they will push the same overhyped Western self centred movie again and again so thank you

@yojimbo6879 3 ай бұрын

As a 56 yr old I remember where accessing a "world" film as they were called back in the day was maddening. Silent films weren't available at all except for horrible VHS transfers. Today I have a physical library of over a thousand films lovingly curated. Be happy people with what we have and buy a damn physical copy of your favorite film to keep them "alive".

@TheKinoCorner 3 ай бұрын

Same. I'm only 30 but I remember that if I wanted to watch a film, it had to be playing on tv or I had to hope that the local video store had it for rent. Now, I have my own library of about 1000 films. I also back them up in case anything happens to the discs and I seek out physical copies of hard-to-find movies. I'm not a hoarder, I'm an ARCHIVIST!!!

@yojimbo6879 3 ай бұрын

@@TheKinoCorner That's what I tell my wife whenever there's a Criterion, KinoLorber, Shout, Arrow sale. "Honey, I'm a film preservationist like Marty Scorsese." lol

@Novastar.SaberCombat 3 ай бұрын

To this day, I'd argue that "Metropolis", "Cyrano DeBergerac" (1950's version with José & Mala), "The Maltese Falcon", and "Twelve Angry Men" are my favorite old-school films. There are more, but those top my list. I don't expect 90% of others to appreciate such things much in the same way I loved the original "The Legend of Zelda", "Metroid", "Castlevania", and "Phantasy Star 2" games (and also Wolf3D & Doom1). Some people are simply far too haughty, disdainful, and "pro-present + fugg the past". It's weird, yes, but it ain't MY job to police their dumb arses. 😂 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength, resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)

@MicahMicahel 3 ай бұрын

@@yojimbo6879when I was growing up in the 1970s they would put silent movies on after school. I knew all the comedians. we were the last generation to have the old culture given to us in a non nostalgic context. I would even fund radio plays. Then gradually the greatest generation was ignored.

@MicahMicahel 3 ай бұрын

@@TheKinoCornerWe started watching older shows on TCM when modern movies became mostly bad. After watching them for years now I cant stand so much modern cinematography. The compositions are less complex relying on the steady cam and only taking portrait shots, shot reverse shot. Every decade has a new idea of excellence. Today's dop's and directors, they dont study a frame and think of the composition. Older movies have both characters in the frame when they talk. Their superiority isnt immediately apparent. You have to slowly notice their merits. Oddly, now i find myself loving film stocks... the old technicolor is amazing. I never used to really notice the difference between film and digital but now theyre world's apart.

@noman6041 3 ай бұрын

I have watched a lot of film commentators here on KZbin, and they have all seemed arrogant, none of them ever do the proper research and only 'guess' at circumstances and they seem disloyal to the films they present and only do their videos for the money or attention. But you actually have knowledge about film history and you seem polite and relatable and you do the research instead of presenting misinformation and you seem honestly passionate about your subject. Loved the video, as a film lover this really appealed to me and held my attention. It's such a shame that so much of our film culture is lost. Movies are a 'time machine' allowing you to go back and experience that period in time until it's time to come back to the present. Glad you mentioned 'London After Midnight' which is perhaps the most famous 'lost' film of all time. I hope some younger generations see this video and begin to rethink their opinions.

@ekmad 3 ай бұрын

I am so thankful for all the film restorers out there who not only save them but put so much effort into making them the best they can be. It's a Christmas ritual for my Dad and I to watch *The Great Escape* and last year I brought my 4k UHD restored copy knowing that my Dad just got a brand new 60" OLED. After it finished I asked if he noticed the better quality and he said it was just like how he remembered it when he was a boy in the cinema. It was then I realised that: here I was trying to show him something "new", when in reality it was myself who had never experienced the "true" Great Escape until I saw the restored 4k version.

@matthiasmartin1975 3 ай бұрын

Yes, movies in "4k" is nothing new, the novelty is just to be able to afford to watch it that way in your own home.

@intake_cinema 3 ай бұрын

As a lover of Japanese cinema, the loss of nearly all works before the 1920s and a vast majority from the 20s, is very depressing. The estimate is that perhaps 95% of all of the films made in Japan from 1899-1930 are completely lost, and a good chunk of that remaining 5% are only partially extant. There are also many that are lost from the 40s and 50s as well. Wars, natural disasters, nitrate fires, censorship, etc. are to blame. Edit: I originally mentioned Tokyo Laboratory before I got to the part you mentioned it, I'm glad you did! I will say that, while Toho is the savior here, as the parent company they are also at least partially to blame for Tokyo Laboratory going under to begin with - so they aren't exactly benevolent.

@ryanmalone2681 3 ай бұрын

This is why my library grew to 300TB going all the way back 1911.

@deleteduser2291 3 ай бұрын

What's your storage medium? Do you use HDDs or tapes???

@bartsampson1523 3 ай бұрын

thank you for your service

@ryanmalone2681 3 ай бұрын

@@deleteduser2291 good ole 3.5” HDD.

@sahidshaikh1601 3 ай бұрын

did have it on drive or something ? wanna share it whith us?

@ryanmalone2681 3 ай бұрын

@@sahidshaikh1601 “on drive”?

@CorbCorbin 3 ай бұрын

The big 2008 fire, that was covered up by Universal, burned many of the master recordings of some of what’s considered the greatest music, going back to some of the earliest known recordings, as well as prints to many movies, that were the only ones on film left. They buried it so deep, that the list of what was or wasn’t in the fire, is still being investigated. Backups for movies and television, that now only have digital copies, were lost. Some think it was tens maybe 50,000 films and series. And well over one-hundred thousand audio masters. Three acres of the backlot went up. They weren’t keeping it taken care of like the art it was, and some of it’s gone forever.

@dilansmithee503 3 ай бұрын

@0:19 Kino Corner: "Do you like Paolo Pasolini?" Alan: "He's OK..." K.C. "His early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when 'Salò' came out in '75, I think he really came into his own, commercially and artistically."

@Christo_glenn 3 ай бұрын

Who ever writes off older films truly doesn't know what they're missing out on. I've been on a recent discovery of watching older classics and it stunned me how well I connected with the stories and the visuals. I watched Lawrence of Arabia and it really inspired me as a photographer. I also watched The Great Escape and I LOVED it too. I have a huge backlog of old films to watch and it's fascinating how you gain insight into the era that they came from. These films are more than entertainment, they are part of our history and it's best we preserve them the best we can.

@behelit1997 3 ай бұрын

This video is infact, pure kino

@annefrankenberry7914 3 ай бұрын

Not watching films older than 20 years? Do they not know cinema is an art form, and not just entertainment? That's like not reading older books, looking at old paintings, or listening to older music. I can't imagine.

@korilloyd6004 3 ай бұрын

I had a friend who didn’t engage with any media pre-2000, except for Total Eclipse Of The Heart

@Novastar.SaberCombat 3 ай бұрын

90% or more of the people I've met over the past 30+ years haven't read a book outside of required reading in what little schooling they had. Further, most of those people haven't seen a film earlier than one from the 1980's. It is what it is; deliberate, disdainfully obtuse ignorance. But it ain't MY job to educate their dumb arses! 😂 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength, resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)

@AnonymousAnonposter 3 ай бұрын

There is no shortage of people who refuse to read old books because the authors are "misogynistic white men". Worse still, they go on book-focused social networks like Goodreads to review-bomb old books.

@DarkSideofSynth 3 ай бұрын

Shallow people love coming up with any sort of magic numbers and 'principles' to excuse their shallowness. I'd to see their bosses going: hey, you've been working here for over 2 months, it's time to go. I never keep people this long. Adios!' ;) Neither art nor entertainment have expiration dates. Imagine the likes of Sotheby's going: oh what is this? A painting by Van Gogh, too old, throw in the bin, who cares?!' instead of making millions on it ;) Let stupid be stupid, there is no cure.

@monolith94 2 ай бұрын

Harold Lloyd also worked fanatically to preserve his films. I believe he might have even stored them in his Hollywood mansion

@thesocialisthedgehog6320 3 ай бұрын

A great primer video, one thing I'd like to add is how much quality can vary across preservations. There is a tendency among some studios or filmmakers to modernize their old releases; be that discarding original mono or stereo soundtracks, using digital noise reduction to get rid of film grain, altering colors from the theatrical presentation, and now there is even the threat of AI upscaling. And this is to speak nothing of the cases where original effects shots are replaced with CGI like the special editions of Star Wars and Indiana Jones. I believe that every film ever created deserves a faithful home video release made with the aim of recreating the theatrical experience as closely as possible. God bless Umbrella Entertainment, Criterion, The BFI, and so many others for the work they do.

@CorbCorbin 3 ай бұрын

Really dug how Giovanni Ribisi shot Strange Darling, on film. When we leave the car and motel room, the natural light actually affected me.

@bradskag3007 3 ай бұрын

Melies story is interesting, the guy who directed a trip to the moon famously burnt his entire library of film in a fit of rage almost immediately regretting it, it's said something like 80% of his work is just gone

@scamlikely9964 3 ай бұрын

Ironically, it seems like movies made back when they weren't legally considered art have more artistic merit than a lot of the slop that studios inflict upon us now.

@Novastar.SaberCombat 3 ай бұрын

In some ways, sure, maybe. After all, whenever something BEGINS, it has the opportunity to be pure, passionate, crisp, fresh, and unique. But once several decades pass, things obviously become old, stale, boring, outdated, or "worthless". That's just how it is.

@tasthedingus 3 ай бұрын

1:30 OR, you could take a trip to your local library and get almost anything you want for FREE! Most libraries have statewide systems to even order you movies they don't have in stock! Having fun isn't hard, when you've got a library card!

@sinisterz3r090 3 ай бұрын

Some communities on the high seas tell of places to try and look for obscure movies. Found some good ones I've never heard of before and enjoyed.

@HorrorHermitofHell 3 ай бұрын

SEEING RLM AND MR. NO LEGS JUST MADE MY DAY! THANK YOU KINO!

@szczypior2714 3 ай бұрын

I can't express how much I appreciate the video, so I won't try to :) I appreciate how educational and interesting it is, love your content!

@justinkearney937 3 ай бұрын

RLM and Kino Corner - two worlds collide! I'll wait patiently for the CinemaStix collab

@codycigar6542 23 күн бұрын

Love what Grindhouse Releasing did as well for obscure films. What they did with Gone With The Pope was pretty crazy.

@mikesilvester3433 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the great video. Film preservation is one of my favourite topics. It’s interesting to see your video this week as I’ve been reading comments on Twitter actively calling for Disney to permanently delete The Acolyte because they hate it. I find this kind of talk horrifying for any media even if you hate it.

@ubik5453 3 ай бұрын

I'm 19 years old, and I bought a dvd 📀 collection of the Universal Classic Monsters last week.

@TOAOM123 2 ай бұрын

Way to go! Great set! Check out arrow video and vinegar syndrome for similar sets

@steve4films 3 ай бұрын

Great video. As a film fan, this issue keeps me up at night. I’m a big fan of Satyajit Ray, but, since a series of big fires, many of his films, such as Days & Nights In The Forest, now seem to be lost or only available in very poor copies.

@deteon1418 3 ай бұрын

Great video man, and an important topic! Watching this right after a Buster Keaton film too!

@lets3 3 ай бұрын

Sorry, our bad, we accidentally spilled guacamole on all film.

@koira1 3 ай бұрын

Again

@AndTheStoryGoes 3 ай бұрын

Bravo, Kino. Keep up the good work man, love the channel as a whole.

@zhangyuchen7595 3 ай бұрын

Quite the fan of this channel and the Frankfurt Film Museum but never expected you to mention it in your video. Thought at first it was a coincidence when you showed some of the silent movies shown in there and exponates from it in the video before you mentioned that you had visited it

@TheKinoCorner 3 ай бұрын

@@zhangyuchen7595 Uwe Boll told me that I should visit it so I did

@zhangyuchen7595 3 ай бұрын

@@TheKinoCorner That was a very good recommendation, in my opinion one of the most interesting museums in this part of Germany

@kandikidzora 3 ай бұрын

I’ll be 38 in a few months and it just boggles my mind when people crap on old movies. I’m also a huge advocate of film/media preservation and have been for many years and it breaks my heart knowing that a lot of “preservation groups” are more for the money and or the bigger players of the classics.

@adriancoria2584 3 ай бұрын

One of my favourite movies of all time is What made her do it? from 1930 in Japan, it was thought to be lost untill found in an archive in Russia, and the final climatic scene is still lost, still one of the best of all time, its sad to think how many gems have been lost

@jonfro-mez 3 ай бұрын

Oh damn, I didn't know that about vertigo. I just watched it recently and it looked great. The restoration was done extremely well.

@mango4ttwo635 3 ай бұрын

it is those who "can't watch films made before X" who are losing out

@gavinvales8928 3 ай бұрын

God I love this channel

@pastapasta7008 3 ай бұрын

Heyo Kino, thanks for the interesting vid! played around with a super 8 projector last year, definitely felt the effect of age on film. You mentioned putting vids on the Apu trilogy restoration in the description, but don't think they're there? Been planning to watch them soon, would love to see more behind the scenes on how it got to us!

@GodsMAySpeed 3 ай бұрын

I refuse to take my schizophrenia pills! Thanks for the content as always :)

@ainslie187 3 ай бұрын

I rarely watch _post_ Y2K movies. The golden era of major motion pictures was roughly 1938 to 1983, the last 15 of those years being the pinnacle IMO. However, TV had it’s golden years from about 1999 to 2015. Now, it’s _all_ over.

@TOAOM123 2 ай бұрын

Youre missing out

@Kinnr_ 3 ай бұрын

Please go on The Palace with Charls and Erick Hayden! Love your content and have for years. Ofc I am commenting prior to watching, as is tradition.

@Perc1000 2 ай бұрын

a lot of serbian/ex-yu movies and shows were destroyed during 1999 you shouldve mentioned metropolis btw, real gold standard of film restoration and a very famous one

@TOAOM123 2 ай бұрын

He does

@anacaeiro1049 3 ай бұрын

I love old movies but its definitely something that is usually passed on to you :)

@afroahmed3989 3 ай бұрын

Martin Scorsese's career was almost cut short cause someone in the MPAA was gonna give Taxi Driver an X rating cause the blood in the shootout scene was too real , Marty got so made that he actually got a gun and was gonna pay the MPAA office a visit.

@peztopher7297 3 ай бұрын

Buster Keaton five times, yay! All my life I couldn't really find a vocational calling. After a decade of discovering old films, I now am interested in film preservation. But I'm in my 60s.

@brianban110 2 ай бұрын

I like movies with subtitles but the oldest movies I'll watch are the ones that came out in the late 60s. For me the reason is because this is when they were allowing movies to become more raunchy, violent, and ease up on the censorship.

@TOAOM123 2 ай бұрын

🤨

@パンダの死体 3 ай бұрын

Piracy is good actually.

@peergynt6515 3 ай бұрын

‘please seed’ can preserve film?

@TummisYT 3 ай бұрын

The opening second made me think we were getting a shirtless Kino

@emperorpelican8187 3 ай бұрын

man thank you I go to any other channel for a movie review and they will push the same overhyped Western self centred movie again and again so thank you

@HYPERBOWLER 3 ай бұрын

Old movies are great! Everyone should check out Africa Addio. What a classic!

@benjammin9906 3 ай бұрын

Which movie is playing at 7:51

@yggdrasil2 3 ай бұрын

You should do a collab with Zelcher Productions! He has talked a lot about this topic.

@tom-vj9lz 3 ай бұрын

I can't wait for your video on Godard's King Lear

@OG-giku-zb8nj 3 ай бұрын

I'll tell you about king lear

@laurentfranco8075 3 ай бұрын

I really never go into discussion with such people who can't watch movies or listen to music from a certain age. It's not worth it. These people often live in their own time bubble of self importance. They have absolutely no perspective on history or existence. Often they're just consumers and slaves of what netflix or the internet algorithm dictates them, not lovers of art.

@autismalkv 3 ай бұрын

Kino Lorber in Kino Corner

@czizma229 2 ай бұрын

7:51 movie title please!!

@Donaldsangry 3 ай бұрын

Trying FUTO now. Seems pretty good so far. Also when's the next Twin Peaks vidja

@midnightkiteflight6333 3 ай бұрын

Kino Corner seems like a cool guy. I would hang out with him.

@monolith94 2 ай бұрын

Most people don’t want thermonuclear war because they don’t want to burn. I’m worried about what would happen to mosfilm

@mcut6684 3 ай бұрын

I thought you where shirtless for a sec

@TheKinoCorner 3 ай бұрын

I'm saving that for my Fight Club video

@killerkuerbis6845 3 ай бұрын

@@TheKinoCorner we hold you to that Kino

@TheKinoCorner 3 ай бұрын

@@killerkuerbis6845 I've been lifting every day for close to 2 years so that I can pull it off

@christafuller1647 3 ай бұрын

❤

@mcut6684 3 ай бұрын

@@TheKinoCorner looking foreward 😀🫶

@iAmiSaid 2 ай бұрын

Kino, I found your video today with uwe. It's amazing This subject, very refreshing! Thank you for just ...well. being you sharing that insight with your viewers, subscribe for life my friend!

@3dhYT 3 ай бұрын

Great channel 👍👌

@estarr86 3 ай бұрын

99% of old photographs have whiteout edited skies...

@Novastar.SaberCombat 3 ай бұрын

You can't make people appreciate Rostand, Shakespeare, Keats, nor Aristophanes any more than you can make 'em sit through Dr. Caligari, Metropolis, Cyrano, The Great Dictator, nor Nosferatu. 💪😎✌️ If a person WANTS to be dismissive and do the whole instant internet assessment thing, that's just who they are. Let 'em be; let 'em live in the corporate Zon, Hollywon't, and Didnay jank. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength, resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)