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@SMATF5
@SMATF5 8 жыл бұрын
Don't be discouraged; the more crap you make, the better you get at making something that isn't crap.
@olamoses7702
@olamoses7702 8 жыл бұрын
+SMATF5 well said most of people will be discouraged by this tutorial, my qustion is before Thomas Edison bring out Florescent Bulb is take a lot of time. what am trying too say is to bring out the creativity in some might take time while some will not tak time. So All the Best.
@exosvocals2526
@exosvocals2526 8 жыл бұрын
true
@AntonOhlin
@AntonOhlin 7 жыл бұрын
The more crap you make, the better your crap will be.
@ybncareyyy
@ybncareyyy 7 жыл бұрын
but then when you make a track you will allways get this visual that its shit since you think you are making shit and the futher more you make more tracks in your exprenicne ''shit'' , then how would you courage yourself that your new track is better? and since your constantly posting ''shit'' tracks, people are gonna judge you saying this artist's music is shit and then when you start making good tracks, i dont know how would they move their perception from'shit'' to ''good''
@SMATF5
@SMATF5 7 жыл бұрын
Proshan Indran I'm saying that the longer you do this for, the more practice and experience you accumulate will make you better gradually. No one is great at anything without thousands of hours of practice. And people may judge a little, but they tend not to have that long of a memory, and won't dismiss something good that you've made just because of something mediocre you made years earlier.
@Dkcode
@Dkcode 6 жыл бұрын
This is solid advice try not to get upset or take it as an insult.
@purplepat7440
@purplepat7440 9 жыл бұрын
Pressfield rly took me to another level
@psy-lion
@psy-lion 6 жыл бұрын
GOLDEN ADVICE
@prabhjotsinghkainth2282
@prabhjotsinghkainth2282 7 жыл бұрын
OMG! You just made me realise something.
@650hpreventon
@650hpreventon 7 жыл бұрын
from I understanding, creating music is a science, a recipe for good food, a stairs case of steps. is it true for non experience song writer must create from very basic raft draft, and experienced writers can see the end product in 10 minutes and can see the over all product. my problems are im too picky and indecisive. one scale I came up three more ways to play it, and can't decide what to do with it. so many combinations!!!!
@EvanJS5
@EvanJS5 8 жыл бұрын
One of the hardest parts for me is accepting that probably 90% of the stuff I make, I won't be satisfied with. The fear of making "bad" music often keeps me from creating music. I look at all the big producers today, and I think "I need to know everything they know", but in reality they probably gained their knowledge from sitting down and tweaking with sounds for hours.
@WolfieMei
@WolfieMei 8 жыл бұрын
+Broseph Stalin yea ;_; Do you have skype? It would be nice to have another producer to talk with and validate my stuff with =)
@janks7192
@janks7192 8 жыл бұрын
+Dreamless Wanderer hit me up dude. soundcloud.com/ser277
@valentijnraw
@valentijnraw 10 жыл бұрын
i stopped the video half way trough and started producing
@politicsequalsgarbag
@politicsequalsgarbag 9 жыл бұрын
lol. That's awesome because I'm sure that's exactly what this guy would want!
@anonymanonym6472
@anonymanonym6472 8 жыл бұрын
+politicsequalsgarbag So just... DO IT!
@JVCKPOTZ
@JVCKPOTZ 7 жыл бұрын
valentijnraw lmao i always do the same mate xD
@Nat3ThaGreat
@Nat3ThaGreat 6 жыл бұрын
all it took me was that quote
@matthiasweiss335
@matthiasweiss335 6 жыл бұрын
How could you do that while Writing this comment?
@nicodemosmusic
@nicodemosmusic 9 жыл бұрын
a music producer doesn't need to waste their valuable time watching stuff like this.
@andrewrichardsuk
@andrewrichardsuk 9 жыл бұрын
Thats excellent advice mike, thank you ... im now... not watching, not subscribing and switching you off! Byeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!
@dinfluence30
@dinfluence30 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike..i just needed this
@svyatoslavpetrov7732
@svyatoslavpetrov7732 8 жыл бұрын
+Mike Monday i become better and better,thanks you!
@bobi966
@bobi966 8 жыл бұрын
+Mike Monday well i never copy other people projects or watching tutorials it took me so long to figure out the program the melodies and creation of the track is the easy part the hard part is the quality that is mastering and mixing i use filter use generators cutoffs to twick the sound the melody is easy to make and the bass so you need just to compile both of them to be compared i mean the melody must compare with the bass and the other melodies not to make something that doesn't fit with the melody that u made
@xxx7917
@xxx7917 8 жыл бұрын
bobi966 it's called harmony, don't watch youtube learn basic music theory , scales and chords
@nitnatsnockk
@nitnatsnockk 8 жыл бұрын
I TOTALLY DISAGREE. When I started to produce music I was just focusing ON the creative process like you said. In the end I got lots of great compositions which sounded shit and I had too spend a lot of time in learning to make them sound good. Therefore it took me more time because I had to remix everything once I learned it. Now I got it but I wish I would have gone deep into tutorial mode before I started to write, because I would had saved a lot of time and things would have sounded good from the beginning.
@90sJams
@90sJams 6 жыл бұрын
Amen
@Liam0505
@Liam0505 4 жыл бұрын
I think if we try to find compromise better advice will be to watch tutorials and practise right away before watching next tutorial. So you will learn how to do things the right way at the beginning and also you will do practise producing music piece by piece. Also from my experience I stopped producing for a long time cause of disappointment and lack of knowledge to finish tracks and realise ideas. Later i decided to give myself a second chance and I started to watch tutorials about things I need to know (I made checklist of things I need to learn or have problems with). And after half year I continued and ur is now much more easier to do thing and finish tracks, because earlier I didn't like the result and had much disappointments and lost hope. And all because I didn't learn properly at the beginning and tried to produce without knowledge.
@alexc9278
@alexc9278 3 жыл бұрын
I think he meant that there are producers who watch tutorials but don't apply what they see. I was one of those.I used to watch tutorials at night before going to bed but next day I wouldn't have done anything with the material I watched. Watch the tutorial and fastly put it into practice.
@cd78
@cd78 7 жыл бұрын
There is one flaw in mikes video in IMHO, you might have shit hot creativity or spend all your days trying to create good beats (which I concur is crucial) but your are fucked if you lack the tech skills. Therefore you cant disregard the need to find out how to do such things like do side chain compression, use send and returns master the track properly. You need to know that shit in todays competitive marketplace where every tom, dick and harry has a PC and a DAW so that your music stands out. Just saying its all just creativity is bullshit. Could Michael Jackson have made thriller without Quincy Jones technical skills. NOOOOO
@Envinite
@Envinite 8 жыл бұрын
Telling people to get off from tutorial while making a tutorial video. Irony at its finest lmao
@bapesuper9588
@bapesuper9588 7 жыл бұрын
I dont think this is a tutorial
@PeteS_1994
@PeteS_1994 7 жыл бұрын
Tutorials show you how to do something, but they don't teach you why you are doing something. Tutorials have helped me with music production but what has helped most is experimentation and just actually listening to music I like.
@sexyboy98231
@sexyboy98231 6 жыл бұрын
Its not a tutorial dumbo😂😂😂
@jackhammer8061
@jackhammer8061 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, this guy is a moron.
@FDFSSS
@FDFSSS 8 жыл бұрын
you have to watch tutorials to understand to use the audio effects and how to make manipulate sound by changing it and making different ones. how would someone who is creative know how to use these programs without any knowledge? you said you need to know how to drive a car for it to go somewhere, but how would you go anywhere if all the parts arent there? how would you drive the car if you didnt have the car in the first place. how would you drive the car if you didnt even know how to use it? your argument is really throwing itself over the bridge. no one can be a "wannabe" producer. everyone has their own thoughts and has the same potential as anyone else to make music. If you can understand that it is your MENTALITY then youre not going to be successful at all. if you cannot sit down and watch a video on how you can use a software then how the hell are you goikg to be up on the stage preforming for hundreds of thousands of people? you need knowledge and experience AND creativity. do not steal ideas from other people because bigger labels are looking for people that are unique with what they do. the people that stand out from the croud are usually the ones noticed more
@shockwavesound6886
@shockwavesound6886 8 жыл бұрын
+FreeDaFam Southside You Don't have to watch tutorials.
@FDFSSS
@FDFSSS 8 жыл бұрын
You dont technically HAVE to but its to help you save years of trying to figure out how to even use the program. how are you going to make good quality music if you dont know how to master? how are you going to even know how to master your song without at least watching one video.
@shockwavesound6886
@shockwavesound6886 8 жыл бұрын
FreeDaFam Southside I Go by my own Ear and what sounds good.
@FDFSSS
@FDFSSS 8 жыл бұрын
+Shockwave Sound then dont be comparing other peoples ways of learning to yours
@shockwavesound6886
@shockwavesound6886 8 жыл бұрын
FreeDaFam Southside Well Excuse me for having an opinion.
@GregTosh2
@GregTosh2 8 жыл бұрын
i quit production school after realize i was better than teachers. you can't learn art in a conventional way.
@Vacation4urBrainMusicPromotion
@Vacation4urBrainMusicPromotion 8 жыл бұрын
you can
@salembeats1875
@salembeats1875 8 жыл бұрын
what no always stay a student what thats just arrogance
@GregTosh2
@GregTosh2 8 жыл бұрын
study and going to school are two different things. i'm always learning, but in my own terms
@Nubbley
@Nubbley 8 жыл бұрын
they teach you the software, its up to you to make the magic
@Z30zol
@Z30zol 8 жыл бұрын
What the f*** are you talking about. You do nothing more than leave after you learned what you need and how to move on by yourself. It's just a huge waste of time afterwards... And then you're like "god if I think about it, I sat 3 years there and in the end no one cares about it"...
@NihongoWakannai
@NihongoWakannai 7 жыл бұрын
I guess school is just useless right? everyone should just go invent calculus themselves instead of learning it from lessons? tutorials are a great help and people should definitely use them, just use the right ones. Don't look up a tutorial on how to make that deadmau5 sound in serum, look up how wavetable synthesis works and learn the ins and out of that synthesis process in general. Go learn music theory online too, it's a great help in writing music. sorry to tell you Mike, but these beginners you're talking to don't bloody have 17 years experience writing music. They need lessons to help them along. Learning everything yourself is fine if you have a lifetime to learn, but lessons speed things up immensely. this car analogy is quite bad, if you already have a car in music production, then that means you've been given presets, samples and stems, and the music you make from it will be unoriginal, just like the car you drive every day, it's just another guy driving a Honda Civic. if you want to be a legitimate artist and make something original, you have to build your car from the ground up before you can drive it. so if you aren't a very good mechanic, you're going to be driving cars that are falling apart, and that's quite a difficult task and makes your driving skill look worse than it is.
@sannamati4571
@sannamati4571 6 жыл бұрын
All theze paths are right
@poisonstrat6104
@poisonstrat6104 8 жыл бұрын
You're totally right. Music needs the creative juice, when it's coming you do the first rush and it's very cool but what you really need to do, and what's the most hard to do in my opinion, is to accept that "This can be better. This is not over, not over at all and don't disserve the name of a "song" if i don't polish it again and again, not for the perfection, but for your personnal real satisfaction", then sit the fuck down, and accept that maybe you'll need to start over and over again, until the thing would be done. That's the difference between simple creativity and work. Thank you to remember me this essential but crucial fact, and keep it up, you've win a subscriber. And sorry for my english mistakes x)
@DeeJayRookie1994
@DeeJayRookie1994 8 жыл бұрын
to me tutorials doesnt help at all cuz if i watch some1 that is making a track i will just copy him and that will not help me to create my own sound or my own patterns in a song... i would recommend watching tutorials about mastering but not like ''how to master tracks'' i rather listen one guy talks about music and music engineering for 1 hour without even touching vst or something like that
@MrFreakinAwesome20
@MrFreakinAwesome20 7 жыл бұрын
thanks . as a beginner I do look at tutorials not only for sound effects but to see how people compose the music. I now can listen to a track or artist that I like and take influence from the track because I better understand what I'm hearing and why I'm hearing it . I just bought a keyboard ( haven't used it yet ) so I can actually learn to play and hear chords live instead of spending hours of trial and error on a grid . I don't think I'm a wannabe I think I love the feeling of good music and want to create my own
@Y3GRAPHIX
@Y3GRAPHIX 9 жыл бұрын
This Isn't Accurate At All. Smh. U_U - Please Read Below & Comment If I'm Right... The Car Analogy Falls Flat On It's Face Lol... The Most Important Thing IS LEARNING HOW THE CAR WORKS... Not Just Driving It. That's Difference Between Being A Wannabe And A Professional. A Creator Or A Mindless Consumer. Also, The Music Producer Isn't The Driver Of The Car... HE IS THE CREATOR & BUILDER/DESIGNER OF THE CAR, ENGINE, ETC. The Vocalist Is The Driver... & A Vocalist Won't Drive A Car That The Creator Had No Idea How To Build Or Engineer It When He Was Creating It... Would You Drive A Faulty Vehicle? ... Exactly My Point. This Would Be The Equivalent Of Telling A Doctor... "No, No, No, Don't Learn How The Human Body Works. Pay No Attention To The Organs (instruments), Blood Pressure (bass), Coordination (mixing), & Etc Of The Body (music track)... Just Learn How To Drive Your Own & You Will Be A Wonderful Doctor."
@whatbass
@whatbass 9 жыл бұрын
+Y3GRAPHIX Totally agree. Definitely need atleast a basic understand of the fundamentals in whatever process you're doing. First thing i learnt when driving was how the clutch worked. It helped visualise what i needed to do to smoothly engage gears. I think Mike's given both good and bad advice here. Yes learn by doing; do by having learnt the basic theory first.
@AutoSanchezMusic
@AutoSanchezMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Dude you are talking about art though, so your argument makes no sense. A painter who paints for fun and hasn't gone to an art school or ever had lessons can still put out art, and it be well received. If you are making music that sounds good, then it sounds good. A producer doesn't need to know every in and out of how to synthesize the craziest sounds possible deliberately. Because at the end of the day music is an expression of unspeakable meaning that dwells within us. When you experiment making music long enough you will learn what sounds like shit and what doesn't sound like shit, just how artists learn what looks like shit and what doesn't through the same avenue of creation. And, if learnt in that manner--may spawn a completely unique style of music that you would have honed in on while you spent your time watching tutorials and daydreaming about making music at work instead of actually having made some music.
@ncb0_
@ncb0_ 7 жыл бұрын
Why Are You Writing Like Jaden Smith
@GhostType96
@GhostType96 6 жыл бұрын
3 years later and still well said.
@matthewwoodmass4161
@matthewwoodmass4161 6 жыл бұрын
Any analogy falls flat on its face when you add new factors to the original. Analogies are there to help gain a better understanding it doesn't need to make complete sense after you add other factors in. You get the point of what he is trying to say. Creative drive is the driving & learning through tutorials is being the mechanic. The whole car is the DAW & how it runs is the quality of the song. You take care of the car, it'll run smoothly. The vocalist isn't the driver at all. They aren't a key part of what makes a song a song. The creator is the driver. Whether they add vocals in themselves or get another person to do it means nothing. If the guys paying the vocalist enough then the vocalist will do it. Maybe in a band the vocalist drives but not in the wider scope of music production.
@mrbeats3330
@mrbeats3330 9 жыл бұрын
True talk man ... You are absolutely right ...
@xDTHx
@xDTHx 7 жыл бұрын
i have the issue where i dont know if what i create is good or not.
@FB-mw5gv
@FB-mw5gv 7 жыл бұрын
The concept of good and bad is very subjective when art is concerned.
@DomSimpsonDrums
@DomSimpsonDrums 7 жыл бұрын
Jimi Hendrix hated his own voice. Just put it out and move on.
@tquk81
@tquk81 6 жыл бұрын
Media allows lots of people to hear music and see flashy lights, video scenes and adverts that PROMOTE it. The purpose of music seems to be getting exposure. Music taste depends on whether someone likes it or not and this is simply because their bodies react to certain songs which make us feel good or be it the lyrics that appeal. There are certain types of songs that are liked and these are genres. I've had people tell me my remixes sound better than the originals and I've been in this love affair for 20 years. It's just not exposed to enough ears I guess or with the eye catching stuff to go with it. Its very easy to confuse what is 'popular' with 'good'. I've heard stuff I hate go to number 1 and I've heard stuff I love more than anything get nowhere so there is no way of knowing whether your music is good or not. Mozart and classical composers where only known because they wrote for royal families and I'm sure there were other composers on the same level in those times that lived wrote and died without people knowing of them. It is lovely that a small amount of people I know and don't know believe my music is better than music we all hear on the radio but I'm not bothered if it gets known. I have had the opportunity to pitch music to people up there but I didn't post about it. It was a pleasure to network with those artists and just simply enjoyable. After philosophising to the moon about what's good. I do believe (and its a belief only) that a composers emotional pain makes the best music. PEACE!
@SpirallingUpwards
@SpirallingUpwards 6 жыл бұрын
Do you like it? If you don't keep going, if you do work out who your gonna show it too and get it ready for that.
@jevule130bpm7
@jevule130bpm7 9 жыл бұрын
I agree with the fact that all producers should all focus on driving the car, but sometimes the car breaks down and you should know how to get back home.
@drnocka-rocksteady
@drnocka-rocksteady 6 жыл бұрын
THEY MAKING IT TO TECHNICAL ANYWAY!!!!
@crm321
@crm321 9 жыл бұрын
Mr. Monday, you're right in ways that I hope you fathom. I know too many people who make attempts at learning music theory and fundamentals of their instrument, but have a hard time putting any of it into practice. When these people do sit down and write their music, all of their knowledge is untouched and forgotten - rendering their knowledge worthless. It's a consistent lack of comprehension in music principles that make many people fail at creating music - or just miss the mark on a wonderful idea. I, however, get the feeling that you're undermining the importance of musical knowledge and theory. I'm sure that's just my empathy; however, along with those who attempt and forget basic music theory, there are those who never attempt to learn and sink as a composer. I've been in many bands - all of which I wrote all the music because of my knowledge of rhythm, harmony, melody, etc. Not because there was a limited creativity ability and potential, but simply because those around me just didn't have a clue where to start. With knowledge of music theory, you get a starting base, 8 different variations per riff, comprehension of harmony and an ability to correct very close musical mistakes. You can never go wrong with music theory or musical knowledge - it's always a great way to start and an extendable ladder just in case if you're lacking ideas.
@JAYFLOPROBEATS
@JAYFLOPROBEATS 9 жыл бұрын
This video sums up the reason why I didnt finish my degree at Full Sail U....I was fortunate enough to meet a few people that are in the industry at a producer conference a few years back and they mentioned that it's cool to go to school for it but if you want to see some type of success before you reached 50 you need to put your hands in the fire and teach yourself in the process........
@JAYFLOPROBEATS
@JAYFLOPROBEATS 9 жыл бұрын
+Mike Monday Great video man
@JAYFLOPROBEATS
@JAYFLOPROBEATS 8 жыл бұрын
+Purplegreen45 as far as me doing everything online since being in the army hell yeah, I liked their system of how the online studying worked and their college math course was the shit. I'm sorry I forget the name of the site they used within the course for us to practice the math work but it had a pie system that you would navigate daily to master each style of math. I haven't received my degree yet though, cause I had financial aid issues when I was still in the service and I didn't realize until the last minute that I could have use my GI Bill while I was still in, but overall, If you're close to Florida or just happen to want to go to the school by all means if you can go to the school other than that you can take the online programs they have too....But I will say that I learned in the last year that yeah going to school is good...but you won't learn EEVERYTHING you think you will learn from the college. I think also that the idea of that is like this.........If you want to be a producer, take the bachelors progrom for music business, learn production on your own through networking with others in the field at school, or more than anything else like I've done since being suspended on financial terms; learn through youtube.....find someone reputable, i.e. +epik323 or +busyworksbeats and a number of others they'll give you a lot of knowledge to the game.....I was thinking the other day about not continuing with my BA in Recording Arts and just changing it to Music Business......
@JAYFLOPROBEATS
@JAYFLOPROBEATS 8 жыл бұрын
+Purplegreen45 No Prob good luck with everything and stay grinding!
@simonvandenheever8571
@simonvandenheever8571 7 жыл бұрын
JAY FLO Surely you can do both quite easily? I go to music college and when I return home watch tutorials and then immediately put tools of the tutorial that I didn't know previously into action, which happens rarely nowadays.
@jackhammer8061
@jackhammer8061 6 жыл бұрын
Lmao before 50? So taking the time to properly learn what you're supposed to do for a few years means that you'll have to spend decades more on top of that before having any kind of success? Real solid reasoning there.
@audioproductionmusicproduc8518
@audioproductionmusicproduc8518 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a top ranked audio engineer in my region with a lot of years of experience and working with SSL and Waves. When I realized how bad tutorials are, I started my Course where I compare the projects of my students with the best sounding song mixed by Chris Lord-Alge or somebody from top 20 mixers. If you haven't seen a good online school it doesn't mean they don't exist.
@patrickbooth8009
@patrickbooth8009 7 жыл бұрын
Best Audio/Music Production Course seems legit.
@TheRoneZone
@TheRoneZone 5 жыл бұрын
Here's what it's like to be a wannabe music producer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH3Tg4iEg5VsmpY
@ZilchAbleton
@ZilchAbleton 10 жыл бұрын
I think there is a lot of great ideas in your videos to help knock people out of the rut a lot of beginning producers fall into. However the one thing I don't understand about your method is, to use your own analogy, where the "car" comes from. Also, even if you are not building the "engine" from scratch, there is still information you need besides "jump behind the wheel and go". I just think something like setting a ratio for the time between studying and doing ( 3 hours applying knowledge working in the DAW for every 1 spent with the manual/quality tutorials by pros ) is more realistic. You had your traditional music education and time working with a partner who seems to have been the "tech" guy to learn from and get a strong foundation. Beginners do need to spend at least some time on accumulating technical knowledge.
@johninator2365
@johninator2365 8 жыл бұрын
I really wanna be in a line of work that includes music so i think that at my young age(15y/o) im going to learn on how to produce it. This is really helpful 👌🏼
@Autogenification
@Autogenification 8 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was about 14 years old I decided I'd get into making electronic music, I torrented a copy of Magix Music Maker 15. MMM is a pretty basic DAW, but it's very newbie friendly. I learned a lot of stuff from that DAW but it's not the best optimised program in the world. I began to learn that I could get other software instruments from outside the DAW and realised how limited MMM's capabilities were. Everything I learned in MMM was through experimentation, not a single tutorial was sought, I remember the feeling of learning how to pitch bend, that discovery made me so happy. In college (English college not university), I had some friends that did Music Technology A-level, and they would often talk about technical stuff like ADSR, LFO, modulation etc. and I'd listen to them and realise how much of it I'd already known, just not in a technical sense. I even had a look at some of the projects they had to do for the course, and it amazed me how much I understood and even my friends were amazed that I knew certain concepts but not the name. Learning through doing is by far the best way to do it. Don't get me wrong, there are places for tutorials to be useful, I've used a few to bounce off of for inspiration but to carve out your own unique sound, you really need to learn your own way through it. I like the analogy of a multiple-path maze. You can use a tutorial to get you to the exit, but you'll fill your mind with the same path as what you've been taught or you can go your own way and make your own path, your own unique sound. I still have a lot to learn, I've only recently realised the importance of mastering tracks and listening to how one sound fits with another on a global scale. I used to route channels to the mixer just to add effects but now I route every channel, and I will find my own unique way of mastering. Maybe my way of mastering is wrong but I will sharpen my knowledge through my mistakes and experimentation. This video is 100% right!
@WayanAyama
@WayanAyama 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much. I've been stressing to learn so much and moping over how I don't have the expensive tools and equipment. I think this'll get me on track
@MaybeRaiiZeR
@MaybeRaiiZeR 7 жыл бұрын
Same as with happend with me. i started out 3 years ago and i was really excited about creating music so i sat down cracked a DAW and began producing. But after like 2 days i was already brainless and didnt know what to do. So i seeked my wisdom in tutorials online and watched them for a full week. After that week i thought by myself "lets make some music like a pro(i was 15)" and i think it took me around 4 weeks to make it, I rendered it in Movie Maker and uploaded it feeling like a star. And then when my fame feeling was finally over i felt shit because i did not learn anything and just put some presets together. And i quitted until 7 months back and now Continuously learning it from experience and bought myself FL studio and i must say its way more fun to find things out for yourself then watching tutorials. btw my first song is still on youtube(its locked) so whenever i feel like i didn't improve i just listen to that song and feel way better:) sorry for any missspelling my native language is Dutch:)
@deltadeavausu1282
@deltadeavausu1282 8 жыл бұрын
wow this enlighten me, i'm drawer and i've drawing for 3 years now. i've been getting better and better with each coming year. for the last 3 years, i been looking up tutorial videos. they are helping, but i never actually put my own practice in it. i know this doesn't go with the video, but what mike said can be used for anything really
@NotLegato
@NotLegato 10 жыл бұрын
after this, i immediately went to ableton and just started doing some funky stuff with diminished chords. now i'm working on something that sounds quite cool actually. hah, fair enough, then!
@mnmlbaez
@mnmlbaez 10 жыл бұрын
Keep going!!! :) have fun with it
@SwishaMane420
@SwishaMane420 11 жыл бұрын
So a 4 minute video can be broke down to this... Instead of reading the book on, or watching a teacher show you, experience and learn it yourself, trial and error. This is a good technique, BUT, sometimes some of us dont have a clue how to even start using something appropriately, so we look to tutorials for a start. Well, sometimes I do anyways. Like a compressor, had NO CLUE how to use one, but watching a tutorial gave me a good idea how to start using one right. BOOM, perfect for me...
@AlexJarvis88
@AlexJarvis88 11 жыл бұрын
I think the term "REAL" is absolutely the wrong term to use in reference to the subject matter. Anyone who sits down ad tries to create art is a real artist. you are talking about the difference between "SUCCESSFUL" writers and unsuccessful ones. I know this because I take the time to sit down and understand semantics and meaning...like a successful analyst would...and when you misuse terms like that you create environments where it is easy for trolls to throw out misleading hater scenarios.
@revspook
@revspook 11 жыл бұрын
I can write a book about anything. Instead of relying on what I know on a subject, I talk to real experts and amalgamate information on the subject as part of the writing process. Rather than relying on what I know to fill out a book, I bring my skills to the table, which is, obviously, the writing part. No idea what mike is schilling for here, but he's dead-on right with this video. Well done.
@petewrobel763
@petewrobel763 11 жыл бұрын
back to your muddy car mechanic reference.. would a mechanic know how to fix a car if he didn't read a manual of some sort? youtube videos are crucial, its like being able to ask someone for help about various, specific issues you may encounter. However, being stuck on 'tutorial mode' should never be a case, work it out then move on and master it in time
@mixmakerbeatz
@mixmakerbeatz 11 жыл бұрын
Na, real talk that's some bullshit. No offence. Ima producer (check out my page) and I wouldn't be HALF AS GOOD as I am at making beats today, if it wasn't for youtube tutorials. Explaining how to do stuff ... that I wanna do ! Sometimes people go overboard, but don't 'belittle' youtube tutorials. Because this is one its -self...
@aaronevens4857
@aaronevens4857 11 жыл бұрын
Agree and disagree, sometimes tutorials (especially those done by professionals) can really help as it may make you do thing's you wouldn't have done. A combination of learning and practicing is the best approach IMO. This is why there are so many noob producers cause they don't actually know how to use the tools they have.
@Grimmcheers
@Grimmcheers 3 жыл бұрын
I wish someone would make a video about push button loop apps that creates songs for people and discuss weather this is music production or not. When does using loops n samples become something unique?
@TechReviewTom
@TechReviewTom 3 жыл бұрын
Ngl I appreciate this advice, the best way to get better is just figuring out what you like and going from there and not looking at what everyone else is doing
@thecadillac6661
@thecadillac6661 11 жыл бұрын
This short little video applies to EVERYTHING in life. Get off your arse and DO IT! If you stress about "how" forever you will NEVER reach your goals. Sooner or later you will feel overwhelmed and give up. If you think about it most things in your life you learned by doing.
@Houston7001
@Houston7001 11 жыл бұрын
I agree to a point, BUT if I were to write a book on medieval weaponry without knowing anything about it....it's going to be a pretty awful book. You have to have SOME kind of technical understanding of the DAW you're using, but it is easy to get in the tut trance and never actually go anywhere.
@JBtoInfinity93
@JBtoInfinity93 11 жыл бұрын
thank you so much man because all this time i've been doing too much of that instead of realizing that i will learn all the mixing, mastering, controls, and vst technicalities under the sun by DOING IT like you said.
@sprudle123
@sprudle123 11 жыл бұрын
wow, such an eye-oppener! current, i am stock in this ''tutorial mode' (wich by the way is the reason that i found you), but i will really think about focussin more on the writing proces! thanks alot! cheers!
@upya3813
@upya3813 7 жыл бұрын
Who actually listened to whoever taught them, how to ride a bike? ...You got the basic info, saw the training wheels and off you went! Start Writing. Get Stuck. THEN WATCH AS MANY VIDEOS AS YOU CAN. TAKE NOTES..........In your own words.... If you don't then you're not truly into what you're doing. Go try something else.
@jonhopkins2190
@jonhopkins2190 11 жыл бұрын
You're doing the exact thing you're saying not to dowhich is listen to a video but after that you can't listen to what that video has taught you and do it yourself... Stop wasting more of my time
@aligboyakasha
@aligboyakasha 11 жыл бұрын
I agree with the message here, but I feel like the pronouns in and on should be switched. wouldn't you be "IN" when you're doing the action? not that it matters in the long run
@giorgionapoli85
@giorgionapoli85 11 жыл бұрын
"...please subscribe to my youtube channel..." Uhmm. So basically you are saying "don't watch tutorial except mine, of course..." :D Just joking...i found really wise your message
@Fnelrbnef
@Fnelrbnef 6 жыл бұрын
Wow... I needed to hear this.. But - I don't even know what compressing a bassline means?? Why do it? What about busses? Grouping tracks? All of that. Anyway- I knew it.. Your video helped a lot:)
@3v3r51
@3v3r51 3 жыл бұрын
It's all about consistent and dedicated effort towards learning and improvement - deliberate practice if you will. I improved more in a month of focused learning/practice than I did in 10 years of just playing around. It's not enough to just "go through the motions" of putting in the work, hoping that'll magically make you great over time, you really have to push yourself to figure out every little thing you don't quite understand and apply them in your work. For example it took me so long before I actually took the time to understand what a dominant chord was and how tritones worked. Before that whenever I happened upon a tritone progression that sounded cool while playing around in my DAW it would be pure luck and I would be like "hey that sounds cool" but I wouldn't actually figure out what it was, how it worked, how it's used, etc. So saying that you don't need to figure out the technical aspects is very untrue by my experience - not if you want to become a highly skilled music composer/producer. You have to take the time and really push yourself to fully understanding everything and applying that understanding - and you CAN if you put in the effort. Once you are serious about becoming the BEST musician that you can possibly be, and you implement the work ethic, you will see your skill level skyrocket faster and higher than you ever thought possible. You must be truly dedicated to the improvement of your craft.
@matt_canon
@matt_canon 11 жыл бұрын
Build an exactly equal amount of education and experience by learning, practicing, and doing. It takes about 2-4 years to get really good at something, and another 2-4 to achieve a level of mastery with it. Depending on one's commitment, and other commitments (work, family, other hobbies, etc). Biggest lesson being there's no instant gratification that leads to long term success that's durable, rather than 'peak moments' with the overnight sensations that disappear just as quickly. my 0.02
@Meezyb33
@Meezyb33 8 жыл бұрын
Holy, crap man!!! I paid 1$ for 14 days and I am just getting all these helpful tips that I was not even expecting!! Especially the mentality practice of trying to already be your future self. I mean this is deep stuff, this is changing your whole mentality. Incredible, stuff sir. Big props to you, thank you so much!
@vatogomareli
@vatogomareli 9 жыл бұрын
THANKS FOR THIS AMAZING VIDEO!!! god bless you
@revishon
@revishon 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with this dude. I've been making a song a day for over 530 days, don't listen to the word No. Don't worry about doing it right. It will take time before others consider it "good", but this is not what you should be doing it for. Great music comes from making music for yourself. Mastery > Fame. Over time you will understand.
@mysterioussquirrel4456
@mysterioussquirrel4456 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I found this really refreshing. I couldn't agree with you more. I have spent the past ten years, watching a recording studio evolving around me. I started with just an eight track portable recorder, a cheap microphone and a guitar. It's now a 32 track fully soundproof studio, stocked with all sorts of gadgets. As I've realised I needed them, I've added them and have gradually developed a 'sound' that is as good and is sometimes better, than music put through big expensive studios by big expensive producers. You cannot learn that stuff from a book. Also, I hate it when you get these know it alls on KZbin, preaching to others about how it should sound and the right way to do this and 'ten mistakes I don't make but you do'. And I absolutely hate those pompous idiots standing next to their brand new £500 microphones, trying to tell you that their recordings are going to be better than yours. Barbara Streisand recorded a double live album about 5 years ago. One of the greatest female vocalists ever, and she sang into a Shure SM57. Cost - Around 80 quid.
@Noxoreos
@Noxoreos 8 жыл бұрын
There's quite some truth in it. As long as you make yourself believe "you need to learn it online, first" you're not practicing. However, I think watching tutorial videos is not always, because of you trying to learn something specific, but having fun watching or reading it and maybe find out about how people do stuff, that you may be able to try out yourself later (as long as you're not stuck in this "tutorial mode"). When I was doing stuff without learning what some device is for, first, I did not use it at all. Always wondering, what was wrong with my music and how I could improve it. For example: I only started to use compressors after I found out what that is and what can be achieved with it. Of course I still had to figure out myself, how to operate it properly. That's what a tutorial can not teach you, it can only assist you and make the "figuring out" part easier.
@shibakusa
@shibakusa 5 жыл бұрын
Much truth was said here Maybe I don't agree in 100%, because tutorials have helped me. Sometimes there were told things that myself I wouldn't figure out by myself But yes, focusing only on the tutorials IS distracting The best way to remember what was said in a tutorial is to use the advice in practise I'm watching some tutorials, remembering the most important parts and with that a few bigger knowledge I come to my project Alrerady Being awarned how much there is still to learn But step by step I am gathering more practise and knowledge I also don't affray to experiment. To check out all possible tweaks in the plugin, so I better understand its controle
@VSushant
@VSushant 4 жыл бұрын
I started reading the book 'The War of Art' by Steven Pressfield and I can safely vouch that it's one of the best books on overcoming obstacles that an Artist faces while creating any Art form. It will unlock all the locks in your mind.
@L117music
@L117music 3 жыл бұрын
i'm neither i just create and i know it's crap and basically i don't care because i'm enjoying myself messing around with things that make a sound. hopefully it sounds nothing like everyone elses music.
@yungk6043
@yungk6043 6 жыл бұрын
Im so glad i watched this video.....my friends said that my music if finally picking up. But then last week i was studyin kanye and i got really stuck. Didnt make a beat all week. Maybe cuz i was tryna make a beat like him and its IMPOSSIBLE. 😑
@OpusTheLeftie
@OpusTheLeftie 8 жыл бұрын
So wait.... i've always *always* taught MYSELF on my own from scratch everything i know....for example, i started my first "album" with acid music studio, which i taught myself until i realized acid music isn't enough, then i moved onto FL studio self taught for about a year....producing ANOTHER (very mediocre and experimental) album....then i finally this year, decided that ABLETON live was right for me....because switching to ableton, the complexity of it compared to other DAWS helps me create a more professional sound. and so i taught myself how to use that as well....so am i on the right track? i've only used about 4 tutorials for things and i taught myself the rest....
@EmrlsCommunity
@EmrlsCommunity 10 жыл бұрын
I did exactly this before these videos started showing up in my fb feed ironically enough (speaking of the 16 tracks in 6 months method). I started in May of this year when I got a new computer and while working 2 jobs, I've been pumping out tunes left and right. However, I only partially disagree with your statement of the "mechanic" vs the "driver." I've made music for years now as the driver, but my sound quality only really took off once I felt like I needed to study what I was doing to really know the ins and outs of the whole package. Yes, people do get stuck learning a bunch of new information, but I created tracks while learning at the same time because in reality, retaining the information before starting the project takes tremendous effort. I liked to think of the tracks I created similar to watching a cooking show and doing what is shown to me, while adding my own flair in the process. I'm not a master chef sort of speak, but I've adapted different styles and molded them into my own. If you have some time check out my tracks. There's a couple on youtube now and 14 of the tracks I created are on my Worlds Eye Album that I dropped in October. This video along with the others you've posted should still be helpful to those looking to break into the music scene none the less and I've appreciated their wealth of knowledge. Peace.
@joshuakensiecoker
@joshuakensiecoker 8 жыл бұрын
Great advice. People who just start out just take instrumental tracks and make their own mix tapes to get their name out there ASAP. once you can teach yourself producing, without wasting your time, to keep a good work flow in whatever DAW you use makes it a lot easier to make your music without frustrating burdens slowing you down if you don't know the programs you use. Use programs that are easy and more self explanatory so you can make your life easier and achieve success and accomplish your goals.
@selin8912
@selin8912 8 жыл бұрын
That's a good advice. Thank you very much. I have one question for you, do you think one must attend music production school to be a producer? I mean, to actually be able to make tracks that somebody would pay for
@OnlineBusiness23
@OnlineBusiness23 11 жыл бұрын
Funny how you say we need to stop with the tutorials and get to work, then you say to keep watching your tutorials...
@stlevi5220
@stlevi5220 3 жыл бұрын
Just stopped making my second beat. Gotta lot of sounds I’d like to hear but I got discouraged lbs maybe I do need a diff approach go @ it from a more creative side who knows this probably just saved me a lot of time or showed me I should stick to rapping. Nah fck that Imma Kanye this shit too ong one day I will be good at this.
@drayvelharris8348
@drayvelharris8348 8 жыл бұрын
I'd be writing music now Mike except I'm watching your tutorials
@Joe005
@Joe005 11 жыл бұрын
Mike you are a lad. For too long I've been studying how all the VSTs work and compression, and DAW shit... You are 100% right, the best way to learn is by doing it! Love your videos man, keep it up
@90sJams
@90sJams 6 жыл бұрын
You can't drive a car that's broke down. You can't fix a broken down car without knowing the mechanics. You can create all the music you want. If your mix sounds like shit, no one is gonna wanna listen to it. I disagree with this guy. Learn the mechanics. Your future self will thank you.
@devicefactor2290
@devicefactor2290 7 жыл бұрын
there's truth here, because some of the worst production sounding recordings are some of the best songs. I can think of alot of 70s Berlin school and 80s music that is amazing but isn't polished and perfect. they focused on the music and melodies and what came from their heart.
@jackhammer8061
@jackhammer8061 6 жыл бұрын
That whole "the hard part is sitting down to write music" is completetly, entirely and utterly full of shit imo. All the quotes have such a tabloid vibe, you know its shit from a mile away.
@dannyhood66
@dannyhood66 9 жыл бұрын
I played guitar in bars clubs parties years , i didnt know anything other than basic scales maj, minor, and blues scale b5th. Whatever i got better not playing hair metal just learnin by myself watchin vhs starlicks fret board gymnastics , string melts into puddy.. But i always had a thing for dark heavy electronic spacewastebient earth splattered terror matter .. So i learned the piano notes on audiosauna , then discoverd audiotool but digitally suck using music software Audiosauna is much easier to create , To me electronic music artist are not musicians ,(in my opinionated options ,40 years ago pink floyd made thick electronic space sounds You'd think with all new digital sounds and effect gadgies why electronic music sound like faggots ? gag
@azfiu
@azfiu 11 жыл бұрын
I like how creative this video was done with the different shots and important phrase pop-ups, nicely done Mike!
@kemy6775
@kemy6775 8 жыл бұрын
I agree. Very early on I made slot of crappy music that I thought was good but then started learning from my mistakes and perfecting it. I didn't worry much about the theory behind it but instead through my errors.
@Wspaboy
@Wspaboy 7 жыл бұрын
This is true for the most part. Why wouldnt you get any tips for your problem when you can find it all over the internet. But if your just doing it on your own indeed you will learn better & quicker and you'll get to know what youre actually doing.
@lxxanderfans267
@lxxanderfans267 6 жыл бұрын
i've heard LX Xander is looking for new beats and artists for Ghostcraft...!
@brice5796
@brice5796 3 жыл бұрын
Years this vid still relevant. I Appreciate your view, I will turn off tutorial mode and go drive
@acronzdubcrown7289
@acronzdubcrown7289 6 жыл бұрын
~~Oh Building on Crap! Oh Snap theres no beter way to do it. You wanna get to the top, you gotta plow on through the plop. Ohhh building on crap. Oh snap theres no beter way to do it.~~~.
@karlmar2
@karlmar2 4 жыл бұрын
"Focus on your creativity, and not in it" Guitar are guilty of that, focusing on their pedals, amp, guitars, and gear
@ibrahimhamed7453
@ibrahimhamed7453 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your point of view sir but you have have knowledge to put it into practice ( you can learn a language by practicing on streets but if you learned in a class and then went to practice it on the streets it’ll make it more sufficient ) not to the point where a person is just sitting watching tutorials all the time but you have to know what is what to put it into use ( thank you for your msg )
@eatsleep8688
@eatsleep8688 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Mechanic (focusing in) # driver (focusing on)
@codemiesterbeats
@codemiesterbeats 8 жыл бұрын
You're totally right. I've been side lined with learning new things for a while now but I really want to get to the point where I can make at least one song a day... even if it is total crap.
@me43v
@me43v 7 жыл бұрын
Superb advice Mike, better than any technical know- how tutorials out there!
@rishavsharma1476
@rishavsharma1476 8 жыл бұрын
what is difference between music producer and music composer??
@roussomusique
@roussomusique 7 жыл бұрын
I agree and disagree, this morning I have seen a video of Alan walker in the studio with futur music and I learned at least 5 amazing tips. Sometimes tutorials gives good ideas and can save you time.
@djdiclona2301
@djdiclona2301 7 жыл бұрын
By Your logic I should not be watching this video, I like the video.
@janhaberlin5602
@janhaberlin5602 4 жыл бұрын
even when i am far not one of the professionall producers i totally agree with him i never watched some yt vids to learn except for how to use my daw
@thatpotato2918
@thatpotato2918 6 жыл бұрын
Is this a wannabe?: Wanting to be a music producer but wanting to be famous?
@acronzdubcrown7289
@acronzdubcrown7289 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome Analogy! On not in, or was it In not on. Meh they both sound good to me. Kinda like Meeting a Woman at the bar. Lol.
@CruelLion7
@CruelLion7 8 жыл бұрын
ok so im not gonna watch this vid!
@koDiacc
@koDiacc 10 жыл бұрын
good video. but some theory and stuff from tutorials is very useful and often times pretty inspiring.
@furrhat1192
@furrhat1192 4 жыл бұрын
Opening a DAW nowadays just puts me in a bad mood. I dunno what happened to me
@trevor4835
@trevor4835 5 жыл бұрын
i'm bout to buy this guy's course just for the accent. almost asmr like
@trainerdee802
@trainerdee802 9 жыл бұрын
this is so true thanks alot I'll never forget your words. let's do this
@BuddhaBoyProductions
@BuddhaBoyProductions 10 жыл бұрын
I agree Mike! im 1/2 school 1/2 self taught. the latter is the greatest learning toop that no book can provide.
@dopegbesosa
@dopegbesosa 8 жыл бұрын
that was great to hear . deadmau5 said it aswell do more and stop looking at what everyone else is doing.
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