The Differences Between the M16A1 and M16A2

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Mike B

Mike B

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@oiops
@oiops 4 жыл бұрын
3 round burst was a way of giving you full auto without emptying the mag, overheating the barrel, and running out of ammo. At least that is what they told me in basic. They said soldiers under fire will go full auto with little results and all the negatives above. Do you have a preference for an current A4 version out now sale?
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
For an A4, you may as well just go with something like PSA. Just get their 20 inch "freedom rifle" kit and get some picatinny heat-shields and voila.
@DungNguyen-ru5kg
@DungNguyen-ru5kg 4 жыл бұрын
The AR in full auto is way too fast, it best to slow down and keep full auto instead of three round burst. IMHO.
@kendrickdonnelly
@kendrickdonnelly 4 жыл бұрын
Better hit probability for moving or hiding targets. 3 bullets instead of one. Better control than full auto
@Monster11B
@Monster11B 4 жыл бұрын
Burst is crap... always was.
@kimisdaman
@kimisdaman 4 жыл бұрын
And apparently made the semi-auto pull a lot worse, helping to ensure you wouldn't hit anything, either way?
@jarchiec
@jarchiec 4 жыл бұрын
Used the M16A1 in basic training and in Korea. Once I came back to the states, we transitioned to the M16A2. Same with the M1911A1 and the transition to the M9. I own the civilian versions of all 4 to this day! Great memories.
@DingoXBX
@DingoXBX 4 жыл бұрын
this is the most American comment i have ever seen
@blankblank5409
@blankblank5409 4 жыл бұрын
Dingo ye
@coffee4682
@coffee4682 4 жыл бұрын
Liar! The M16A1 was designed in 1959 and introduced in 1961! You couldn’t have used it in Korea if the Korean War ended in 1953. Stop faking stories for internet points
@KrazhJaydoKrazh
@KrazhJaydoKrazh 4 жыл бұрын
d u c k I was just about to say that
@XbenXdoverX1337
@XbenXdoverX1337 4 жыл бұрын
@@coffee4682 He didn't say he fought in the Korean war. He just said he served in Korea.
@jamesfortney505
@jamesfortney505 3 жыл бұрын
The M-16A1 was a great rifle. For us lefties, you were issued a plastic brass deflector. It had a detent ball that snapped into the hole in the carry handle. Kept hot brass from going down your blouse and burning the shit out of you. The solid bottom flash suppressor was issued on some of the last production A1’s, I was the company armorer and got a few brand new A1’s though supply. It’s intent was to keep from dusting yourself while firing from the prone.
@Bill23799
@Bill23799 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video Mike. I built my first AR-15 almost 20 years ago using an Olympic Arms lower and a 20" HBAR barreled DPMS A-2 upper . It was a great rifle and very accurate but it just did not have the same sweet balance and feel of the M-16A1 the US Army issued me in 1979. That HBAR just made it feel nose heavy to me. It was heavy all the way through so not really an A-2 style barrel. In 2012 after a few personal life challenges I needed ro sell all my guns to help finance a move from Texas to NC. In time I decided I would build another AR and this time it was going to be an AR-15A. It took me two years as i live on a low SSI disability income now but she has the same weight and feel of my old Rack # 54 M-16A1 I carried in the 70's and 80's. Now here is the cool factor. When I was PCS'ing from West Germany I was turning my M-16 in to the armorer in our unit for the last time after I cleaned it. He took it from me then removed the hand guards , which were really worn down, and replaced them with new triangular handguards. I asked what he did with the old ones and he said they were expendable items so they threw them away. I asked if I could have them and he said OK. So I used my old M-16A1 hand guards on my repro AR-15A1. I had to use a piece of an old credit card and some JB weld to replace a missing finger on one and to reinforce 3 cracked fingers.
@mayhem9052
@mayhem9052 4 жыл бұрын
Thats so cool
@MG-wi1eq
@MG-wi1eq 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome dude.
@fschoneboom
@fschoneboom 3 жыл бұрын
That is so cool. I had the same A1 for most of my 20 year hitch in the Army National Guard. The last 4 years was with the A2 which I never grew fond of.
@c-burn2933
@c-burn2933 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine not going tip to butt. smh
@stevenbobbybills
@stevenbobbybills 4 жыл бұрын
Ghost that trigger.
@jarrodbrandin7492
@jarrodbrandin7492 4 жыл бұрын
ddd ddd When papa doot doots his rifle, we say “doot doot” This is the way.
@tvela595
@tvela595 4 жыл бұрын
Steven Bobby Bills “A bit of mush, little bit of mush, there’s the wall... and a clean break”
@sethmorton8539
@sethmorton8539 4 жыл бұрын
Nut to but
@skywalkershaun1
@skywalkershaun1 4 жыл бұрын
Flannel daddy would not be pleased.
@daspiper8941
@daspiper8941 4 жыл бұрын
Very good informative video. Many non-military and even some non-combat viewers will learn much when they watch. Thank you much for doing this for everyone.
@christurbo951
@christurbo951 4 жыл бұрын
I put an A1 kit together, it was rough. I spent some cash buying a nice used hand guard, then brownells started making replica ones. An A2 build came after that. I’m glad the A1 and A2 are becoming popular again.
@Conky88
@Conky88 Жыл бұрын
I finally got my hands on both. Damn near took a prayer to god to get one since they’re sold out basically everywhere now.
@purplesticky3437
@purplesticky3437 4 жыл бұрын
Filling in the bottom of the a2 bird cage also helps to mitigate debris getting kicked up when firing from prone, or so I've been told
@armynurseboy
@armynurseboy 4 жыл бұрын
That is the primary reason, secondary reason was to act as a pseudo-compensator
@Viktor20689
@Viktor20689 4 жыл бұрын
Not true. Better design for recoil control, because the gas leaves the bird cage and pushes down on the rifle instead of pushing up.
@armstrong2052
@armstrong2052 4 жыл бұрын
The birdcage is in fact, very useful for prone shooting on loose dirt. 👍
@paulgard7596
@paulgard7596 4 жыл бұрын
I've been told the same thing
@vulgarhyena9616
@vulgarhyena9616 4 жыл бұрын
This change may look small, but was a huge improvement to the rifle
@Varvact
@Varvact 4 жыл бұрын
Badas s two really awesome builds been considering building me a retro m16 as part of my new years resolution
@robear17
@robear17 4 жыл бұрын
I experience with both weapons. Summer of 1987, I attended basic at Ft. Leonardwood, MS. I qualified with the M16A1, once I was posted with my unit in W. Germany. My unit received the M16A2. For the rest of my time in the US Army until 1996, I used the M16A2.
@shadowwolf7622
@shadowwolf7622 4 жыл бұрын
I was in an Army National Guard Field Artillery Unit 82-89. I was issued the A-1 in basic and AIT. Once in my unit, we had the A-1 all during my enlistment. We also had 1911's. They were beat to death! Most A-1's I seen were GM. I did get the chance to handle a rare H-R manufactured A-1 during basic. And we did in fact use a nail to adjust our rear and front sights in basic and once in my unit. Every firing post had a nail there for us to use.
@shawnmlynch
@shawnmlynch 4 жыл бұрын
I got one of the Capco A2 uppers off of Gunbroker and built it up like yours but used a PSA stealth lower. I was looking at the Colt A2 upper kits on GB, but just couldn't justify roughly $1000 for it. I am also working on a Colt A1 build (kit) from Atlantic Firearms. These are great collectors. Great video, looking forward to more on these, thanks.
@bfgivmfith
@bfgivmfith 3 жыл бұрын
I just built an M16A2, and found some good A1 parts along the way. I will let that project take as long as it takes to find the correct parts. Nice informative video. Thanks.
@danieldunn6284
@danieldunn6284 3 жыл бұрын
Going from A1 to the A2 in 85' the round grip was real nice the sights were nice and being able to adjust the sights quickly was a plus. No one was a big fan of the 3 round burst instead of full auto but accepted it fairly quickly.
@danieldunn6284
@danieldunn6284 3 жыл бұрын
The muzzle flash change on the A2 reduced dust kick up if shooting from the prone. No dust kick up reduced the ability to see where you were shooting from and kept it the visibility
@kevinriffey9970
@kevinriffey9970 4 жыл бұрын
They also built up the area around the front take down pin on the receiver in the A2.
@brucecamparmament3728
@brucecamparmament3728 4 жыл бұрын
Great job Mike. I really love that you are doing these very informative videos. There's only a couple things I could add (Im sure you know these but some viewers who have not owned/handled the weapons may not). The A2 barrel is only stronger beyond the handguard, it is the same diameter as the A1 barrel inside the handguards. Also in regards to the handguards, the main improvement with the A2 is that you no longer need two different part numbers in order to replace the handguards (as in the A1 with a left and right side). On the A2 they are the same.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed Bruce, I should have mentioned that fact about the barrel.
@mikewilliams8151
@mikewilliams8151 4 жыл бұрын
The dust cover is improved. A little bump keep it from catching in the lower receiver and bending it
@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures
@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures 4 жыл бұрын
You mentioned the deflector on the C-7 being transitional. There were a few of these minor transition parts on my A1 while at MCRD in 1982, no deflector (Our lefties had a snap on plastic deflector) We had tapered slip rings, large aperture rear site and 9" twist barrels. Good job and a very accurate video, keep up the good work.
@Fudmottin
@Fudmottin 4 жыл бұрын
It's pretty cool that you have those. I have a pre-AWB Colt AR-15 A2 which has some differences from the one you've shown. The bad ones are having the bayonet lug shaved off and a fat front pin to make changing out uppers difficult. The lower doesn't have all the gate stuff around the magazine release either. It's an HBAR version, but it has the cuts for the M203 grenade launcher. It's the first rifle I ever bought, so in spite of its shortcomings, it has a special place in my heart. The dust cover spring got broken at one point. I'm sure you'll understand why I haven't tried to replace it. Anyway, I enjoyed this video.
@BobSmith-dk8nw
@BobSmith-dk8nw 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I had an M-14 in boot camp and on my duty stations but I used an M-16A1 in ITR in 1970. One thing I remember about that M-16 though was that the magazines were not all the same size. You had fat ones and thin ones - and because of that - you could adjust the magazine catch for the size of the magazine you had. So - I get this fat magazine and I have to adjust the magazine catch to get it to go in the weapon. I shoot that off (blanks) and go to put the next magazine in. I let the bolt go home to chamber the first round - and it knocks the magazine right out of the weapon and down into the dirt at the bottom of my fox hole ... so I had to grope around for it in the dark, adjust the magazine catch - THEN - put the skinny magazine in and fire off my second 20 rounds ... At the time - I was just picturing that happening in combat - and was not happy ... But - all the things I've seen on various versions of M-16's ... no one talks about that adjustment for the magazine sizes ... I've not used one since 1970 so ... I don't really remember that much about them ... except for this story ... .
@Viktor20689
@Viktor20689 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks for the service,never forget.
@samsammy6210
@samsammy6210 4 жыл бұрын
Had the M-14 in basic 67. Later M-16a1. Not to be left out M-1911.
@davidcruz8667
@davidcruz8667 4 жыл бұрын
Two things need mention: first, and irrelevant since you can use either one, but it is evident in the video, is that the M16A1 was still issued with 20-round magazines and when the -A2 was introduced, so were 30-round magazines; second, the reason the handguards are round is because if you broke one you could replace it with any handguard since they're identical, whereas with the triangular handguards on the M16A2 you need to find a match for that particular side, left or right.
@redtra236
@redtra236 Жыл бұрын
Untrue, they started issuing 30 round mags in the early 1970s. Many saw use in vietnam.
@lewisgann280
@lewisgann280 Жыл бұрын
@@redtra236 yeah by 1972 30 rounders were pretty standard for anyone expected to be in contact with the enemy.
@jesswim8717
@jesswim8717 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man! They really encouraged me to get my first firearm just this week.
@2wheeleddemon999
@2wheeleddemon999 4 жыл бұрын
What are you getting?
@GryphonIndustrial
@GryphonIndustrial 4 жыл бұрын
Pro tip Mike, Fulton armory sells a tool to use for A1 front and rear sight adjustment. I read the browells one wasn’t very good. I got the Fulton one and have no complaints. Works like butter and doesn’t feel like anything on it will break. After getting mechanical zero using a punch I appreciate the tool a great deal.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, but it's still not something you want to do during a firefight lol.
@GryphonIndustrial
@GryphonIndustrial 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Makes zeroing one at the range and trying different battle sight zeroes a breeze. Honestly I don’t think it was really intended to be changed in the field. Zero at your FOB or whatever and then hold off for everything else. I need to take my clone and run it out to 400-500 yards. I used a repro C7 upper like you mentioned as I’m left handed. It’s not a true clone but I didn’t want a safe queen I wanted a retro beater. Anyone using the C7 uppers from brownells be careful. I put in a set of vintage colt rear sight parts, new in the plastic from 1974, and it was a bitch to get in the screw on top of the flat spring. I think it was out of spec tolerance in the sight channel on the upper but after flipping the sight 100+ times with some oil it’s started to loosen up.
@ScreechingPossum
@ScreechingPossum 4 жыл бұрын
I had come to think just about all of the changes from the A1 to A2 were negatives (with exception of making the handguard round) Now I see from your video that it's a far more mixed bag and some things certainly *did* need to change, including some things I had taken for granted (no brass deflector on the A1? Oof...) Thank you for taking the time with this presentation 👍
@h2w25
@h2w25 4 жыл бұрын
We had M4A1’s in the 75th ranger regiment. (Still the full auto option on the selector switch) They were great
@ericward9159
@ericward9159 Жыл бұрын
I was told that the theory behind 3 round burst was because of studies on full auto fire. After 3 rounds the weapon had a lot of muzzle rise. With 3 round burst you pull the trigger once & could possibly get 3 hits on a target without wasting ammo with muzzle rise. That's what I was taught in boot camp back in 93. Good video...
@ironstarofmordian7098
@ironstarofmordian7098 4 жыл бұрын
Difference: A1 has a better Length of pull.
@PLT-dq3dd
@PLT-dq3dd 4 жыл бұрын
As a young L/CPL in 1986 they took my A1 and issued me a brand new A2. All us troops noticed right off the bat the A2 stock was the only bad change. The flack jacket pushed the rifle out even further with A2.
@ironstarofmordian7098
@ironstarofmordian7098 4 жыл бұрын
@@PLT-dq3dd that must've been enjoyable. What'd you think of the weight compared to the A1. Like or dislike?
@worldfamousgi86
@worldfamousgi86 3 жыл бұрын
@@ironstarofmordian7098 that depends on whether you like to carry around more unnecessary weight or not
@markbest5127
@markbest5127 3 жыл бұрын
@@ironstarofmordian7098, before I joined the army in 85, I bought an AR15. It was an A2 6500 Sporter II transitional model. It was the first model with the forward assist, as the first A2 variant had A2 parts minus the FA. I didn't initially think anything about the weight or balance till after I left the service in 89. I LOVED my M16A1. It was extremely lite, and almost felt like a long barrel pistol. When I got back to the civilian world and my Sporter 2, I didn't like the additional weight on the front end due to the barrel being larger in diameter for the last 7". I replaced the A2 handguards and pistol grip with A1 parts. I don't have body armor, so the stock length doesn't bother me. The only change I'd make at this point is getting a pencil barrel, as I have only changed the charging handle with one I won from the NRA, and recently dropped in a Geissele trigger. The additional barrel weight is a waste, along with the forward assist. The one actual improvement is the closed off flash suppressor.
@worldfamousgi86
@worldfamousgi86 3 жыл бұрын
The differences are that the M16A1 was designed to be a combat rifle. The M16A2 was designed to be a camp Perry national match rifle.
@carlmessano
@carlmessano Жыл бұрын
great overview, im looking for an A2 and you really clarified/educated me well, thanks for a thorough job my friend
@slowstang88
@slowstang88 4 жыл бұрын
The first unit I was in 819RHS my issued M16 had no forward assist and was full auto. It was fun going full auto during an FTX but would mag dump 30rds in less than 8 seconds on blanks and obviously a BFA
@artemis_smith
@artemis_smith 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't think I'd see another Air Force CE guy in these comments. I'm not Red Horse but it's always cool to run into other AF CE guys online.
@mtsflorida
@mtsflorida 2 жыл бұрын
You were using pre '65. I had a 66 model in early 70's. I've got the A1 now and is nice having a familiar buddy.
@WetWiIIy
@WetWiIIy 4 жыл бұрын
I like the video idea. I don't serve in the Army... but knowing people who have, I don't think any of them would consider any of the 'A2 updates an upgrade over the earlier 'A1. Barring the brass deflector. That was good and justifies it all, dunn'it? Good job Army/Marines who totally aren't out of touch! 😊
@jongirolami4978
@jongirolami4978 3 жыл бұрын
My first M16A1 in the Army was built by the TurboHydromatic division of General Motors. Never forget the reciever was a funny shade of dark green. Lots of great memories.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 3 жыл бұрын
Well, yeah, I believe you, because there are actual photos and surviving examples and military stock records that prove that some for Basic Training were made by Hydromatic. Nobody has yet actually been able to produce actual evidence of Mattel made receivers. Just goes to show how susceptible the general population is to accepting myths.
@timblack6422
@timblack6422 3 жыл бұрын
Our M16s in northern Germany (1983) had the open lugs on the end of the barrel and no forward assist.. a couple had 4 or 5 digit serial numbers... Vietnam vintage... those open lugs catch branches and krap when patrolling
@wixom01
@wixom01 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. I only shot the M16A1 myself. I served 1980 to 1983, US Army. This we'll defend!
@r-7337
@r-7337 4 жыл бұрын
We’re you part of the Invasion of Grenada?
@lib556
@lib556 4 жыл бұрын
We in Canada were always told the C 7 grew out of the A2 and not the A1 as you state. C7 had: A2 sights, brass deflector, A2 hand guard, A2 barrel....
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
It was a receiver style that was literally an a1 receiver with the brass deflector.
@lib556
@lib556 4 жыл бұрын
@Ben Finny The adults are trying to have a discussion about small arms development. Back to your video games now.
@ls7196
@ls7196 3 жыл бұрын
@@MikeB128correct
@thesaint1517
@thesaint1517 4 жыл бұрын
Good video on difference between the two. I have two A2s. One heavy barrel built in 87 and one light barrel built in 86. They are both a lot of fun to shoot and keep them in impeccable condition. I shoot on both the lighter 55 grain but th 62 grain is their favorite. Groups with the 62 at 100 yards are much superior. Thanks for your illustration!
@angryjarhead
@angryjarhead 2 жыл бұрын
A2 was my service rifle. I miss it. Thanks for posting this.
@spicn00
@spicn00 4 жыл бұрын
stupid question, does an A2 upper fit on an A1 lower?
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ChickentNug
@ChickentNug 4 жыл бұрын
Valid, not stupid
@foxbox2879
@foxbox2879 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@SuperEightball1
@SuperEightball1 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed my time with the /A1..Full FUN switch
@kalibre.2228
@kalibre.2228 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to say I still have my fathers M16A1 he used when he was still in the service. He handed it to me when I was still 12-13 yrs old but ofcourse mags and ammo not included for safety purposes. 😁 it's made by elisco though here in the PH.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
I was about to call bullshit, but then you said you're in the Phillipines where I thought firearms ownership was restricted?
@kalibre.2228
@kalibre.2228 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it is. If you want to own a gun here legally you have to undergo a very long process like securing certificates from various government agencies and ofcourse it includes a neuro exam 😑
@thezombiepanda5065
@thezombiepanda5065 4 жыл бұрын
I've grown up shooting the a1 and with a marine familie they all love the a2 and I thot the a1 was perfect
@trinovantian1
@trinovantian1 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation on differences.
@DAVE-GM
@DAVE-GM 4 ай бұрын
Excellent comparison! Good job
@LUTZRICH6487
@LUTZRICH6487 4 жыл бұрын
Interestingly enough I served 24 years USAF, retired in 98, and until I bought my own AR I had never fired an M16 with a forward assist. And I was always rifle and pistol qualified, so at least once or twice a year at the range, and many many days lugging one around.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
Ok
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 4 жыл бұрын
Recently put a A2 stock on my DPMS AR-15, and made it into a M-16A2 clone. Because for some reason somebody though it was a good idea to put a 5 position stock on a 20 inch heavy barrel with a solid carry handle but now it’s in full A2 glory like God intended
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta be an operator you know.. Glad you have an A2 clone now, they're definitely neat.
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 4 жыл бұрын
Mike B haha thanks, now I’m on the hunt for a G3/CETME, need to take a break from the AR platform Also, drop a binary trigger in the A2 to simulate burst fire. Need to buy a couple before they get outlawed
@armynurseboy
@armynurseboy 4 жыл бұрын
Longer length of pull is great when you're shooting on a rifle range in nothing but your shirt, but it sucks when you're wearing LBV and body armor. For solid buttstocks, I much prefer the A1 vs the A2 as it fits me better both with and without gear on. And I MUCH rather have a collapsible stock as then I can customize the length of pull.
@raulgonzales1374
@raulgonzales1374 3 жыл бұрын
I used the M16A1 in Vietnam in 1968 and it saved my life on both semi-auto and on full auto, it is better than the m16-a2, by a long shot.! The push button on the M16A1 is better, bigger and easier to hit with your thumb, thus better.
@jeepinbanditrider
@jeepinbanditrider 4 жыл бұрын
IMO the A2 is a target rifle. The A1 is the better general issue fighting rifle. The Marine Corps specs were basically custom made for our KD course of fire.
@DuckMallard11
@DuckMallard11 4 жыл бұрын
Great video man, thanks a lot for doing this. I look forward to seeing more of your stuff.
@trashman4444
@trashman4444 4 жыл бұрын
The A2 stock is 5/8 " longer.
@meridock
@meridock 4 жыл бұрын
wierd - when I was in Basic we had M16A1 sights with the 3 round burst action. (1992 Fort Jackson)
@scythelord
@scythelord 4 жыл бұрын
Simply A1 upper and A2 lower.
@meridock
@meridock 4 жыл бұрын
@@scythelord - Yep - that's how I viewed it. I just didn't think the drills called it anything but an "A1" but was naive at the timeon the A1 A2 difference.
@BobSmith-ej3ci
@BobSmith-ej3ci 4 жыл бұрын
Colt also supplied c7’s (a1’s with brass deflector and a2 barrels)
@derektodd4126
@derektodd4126 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, wondering if you could explain how did it detect the 3 round burst?
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
It's mechanical. Just search for it on Google or YT.
@rocpile1141
@rocpile1141 4 жыл бұрын
Rotational clockwork type mechanism....
@Tunkkis
@Tunkkis 4 жыл бұрын
A secondary disconnector with a ratchet gear on the hammer.
@redtra236
@redtra236 Жыл бұрын
The windage adjustment on the A2 seems like it could get accidentally moved pretty easily
@davenkaren2572
@davenkaren2572 Жыл бұрын
In regard to the lower “external” differences- is the rear casting the only difference? I had heard there was a mag well difference and maybe something around the mag release button? I’d love to know for sure! I’m starting an A1 clone build and have a raw 80 lower, that I can modify before coating, with the hopes of making it as correct as I can…. Great video!!! THANK YOU!! Subscribed!!
@dks13827
@dks13827 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. You are a fine speaker, too.
@squeakychairproductions6813
@squeakychairproductions6813 4 жыл бұрын
Hey for your a2 pulmetto makes a lower that is marked US Property M16a2 and it's only 50 bucks. Not a big deal but might tickle your fancy for that price. Great vid thanks.
@gsmith4295
@gsmith4295 Жыл бұрын
Only advantages I found carrying the A1 was it was lighter when you had to carry your weapon for a long time and it was full auto, but unless you were in combat full auto really didnt make a difference. The A2 sight system was much better and provided a quick on the fly elevation change with the rear sight without having to have a tool to adjust the front sight. And the A2 was a more accurate weapon to fire in my opinion. I always qualified expert with the A2.
@davidheutmaker5064
@davidheutmaker5064 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clarification . I have an A2 that I absolutely love. I
@hunter19709
@hunter19709 4 жыл бұрын
When i qualified in boot in 1980 the coast guard had m16A1 10 round mags not much fun in full auto i scored 198 on a range gun of a possible 200 first time fired m16a1;)
@podmonkey2501
@podmonkey2501 4 жыл бұрын
Give me the A1's stock, fire control group and barrel profile and the A2's 1:7 twist rate and sights in the same rifle.
@projectnext5020
@projectnext5020 4 жыл бұрын
I like the battle worn look on the A1, Ya need to beat the hell out of the lower on that one though. I'd like to get a Old SteamPunk A1 to play with. This vid makes me want to go hug my AR15....Thanks Stoner!
@Bill23799
@Bill23799 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, I am not being nit pickey on this one Mike. I think you missed one small difference between the M-16A1 and the M-16A2. I do believe there is a very small difference between the ejection port dust covers.The M-16A1 dust cover does not have that small built up square of metal in the center. I say it is an inconsequential difference and I don't even have the A1 cover on my own AR-15A1 project rifle either haha. Liked.....Subbed.....Rang Da Bell.
@mtsflorida
@mtsflorida 2 жыл бұрын
You go with what you know and good and comfortable and confident with.
@Skyisnotalimit
@Skyisnotalimit 3 жыл бұрын
I tested the M16a2 in the army. This and the Ak47 was very light compared to our Ak5. While aiming with my earprotection on, shooting sounded like a funny airgun spring "flooiiing" sound.
@roberthill3207
@roberthill3207 4 жыл бұрын
My dad was issued m14 then m16a1 and i remember whan he was issued the brand new m16a2. Military Brat for life...
@sgtsplice9643
@sgtsplice9643 4 жыл бұрын
I like the A2 flash suppressor on the A1. All the A1s I used had prong suppressors
@SergeiMosin
@SergeiMosin 3 жыл бұрын
What always amused me is they put a heavier barrel on the A2 to compensate for sustained fire, while also stripping out the ability to engage in sustained fire.
@7graywolf7
@7graywolf7 4 жыл бұрын
I love reading all about history including military and there's a trend throughout much of mankind's past: Something big changes the way war is fought, everyone adapts to it, time goes by, and suddenly people start forgetting the lesson and start tweaking those adaptations based on opinion, internal politics, misguidance, and other reasons. Three round burst is one of these innovations. See, full auto was created because the American civil war and world war 1 demonstrated that in trenches, bunkers, buildings, and generally any super tight environment the most important factor is reflex and ammo expenditure. See, bayonets may be the first thing people thing of when storming a trench, but most soldiers prefered to shoot their gun when possible once they were actually in a trench or bunker because running 10 feet at the enemy took time and he could just shoot you. It's hard to explain in text, but the chaotic fist fights of trench assaults along with the invention of bolt, pump, and lever actions meant that it was typically easier to just cycle another bullet whenever convenient until empty than it was to run back and forth from one guy to another, probably just getting stabbed or beaten to death yourself in short order anyway. On top of that, people don't just die instantly when shot; you need to shoot multiple times sometimes. The logical development was to take a regular machine gun and make it smaller. It took years for this technological advancement to spread across the world but by world war 2 it was considered a basic fact of warfare. By the time Vietnam and the M16A2 rolled around, many people began to forget about this in many countries. This is why the FAMAS has such an impractically high rate of fire. This is why the MP5 has 3 different firing modes. Now that the USSR has collapsed, Russia has been making many similar blunders such as that weird double semi auto feature on the AN94. These ideas serve well enough in theory, but they openly defy the brutal pragmatism and desperate efficiency that inspired the original invention of full auto. Part of the problem is that people assume that you were totally meant to go automatic at long distances. Unless you have a machine gun heavy enough to handle that kind of perpetual vibration, you are only supposed to use it at most 20 meters. Typically it's a matter of "oh no, bad guys are literally right in front of me. I better kill one or two of them really quickly before they kill me and my friends". So what you said about 3 round burst being silly over complicated is 100% true. Nothing is actually stopping you from basically going full auto anyway; it's just a more inconvenient way of doing it.
@f1r3hunt3rz5
@f1r3hunt3rz5 2 жыл бұрын
Truth. Especially about the lessons forgot as time goes on thing. Those who don't learn from history are foomed to repeat it.
@wonderflounium
@wonderflounium Ай бұрын
One is clearly a masterpiece, and the other is clearly the master's piece.
@cjr4286
@cjr4286 4 жыл бұрын
I actually just built an A1 replica that has a brass deflector. From what I was told, the upper receiver was refurbished surplus from an early Canadian C7. It looks pretty new, to be honest, although I did have to do a bit of filing on the pin hole to get it to fit into the lower. I don't really care if it's actually surplus or not because it was cheaper than a Nodak Spud upper, and I like having a brass deflector.
@redtra236
@redtra236 Жыл бұрын
There was the M16A1E1 that has the brass deflector too.
@jimbuono2404
@jimbuono2404 4 жыл бұрын
My A1 in RVN in 1969 didn't have storage in the buttstock. I have a replica, built with part obtained when the National Guard units were upgrading to the M4, and this buttstock has no storage either.
@redtra236
@redtra236 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you had the XM16E1?
@stykexel7511
@stykexel7511 3 жыл бұрын
the handguard is what makes it very easy to tell the difference
@steventischart7457
@steventischart7457 Жыл бұрын
The A2 was adopted so the Marines could lay on the lawn and shoot bullseyes at 600 yards. You can't see an enemy at 600 yards. If your wearing load bearing gear, the a1 stock is not too short. The rear sight of a2 is adjustable, not soldier proof (where is my zero?). 3 round burst is ok idea. The ratchet mechanism is a crappy system. The military has been trying to save on ammunition since the trapdoor Springfield. Volume of fire can win fights. A2 is not a bad AR, but some of it's design does not help soldiers win fights.
@brsavage5504
@brsavage5504 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to put a A2 handguard on the A1?
@TheEpicpwnr100
@TheEpicpwnr100 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Original A2 guards were designed to be able to retrofit onto the triangular handguard cap that sits behind the front sight base.
@ExtraWeenieSauce
@ExtraWeenieSauce 4 жыл бұрын
If someone asked me which of these rifles I would choose in this video I would choose the A1, I have short arms and I would rather have a full stock because they don’t break easy. It is a cult classic firearm and is sought after by Vietnam veterans.
@redtra236
@redtra236 Жыл бұрын
Didn't the airforce use the M16(no forward assist or fencing, some had partial fence I think) and not the M16A1?
@sickboy703
@sickboy703 2 жыл бұрын
I own an a2 I built with a Doublestar receiver lower and Colt a2 everything else. I did put an a1 pistol grip on it though. Both beautiful rifles.
@MrBlunt419_
@MrBlunt419_ 11 ай бұрын
Awesome. Thanks for this
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 11 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@pigpaul
@pigpaul 3 жыл бұрын
Great video,thanks for the lesson.🙏
@josephkostelac7270
@josephkostelac7270 4 жыл бұрын
Good one Mr Mike keep it up
@davidgoldberg
@davidgoldberg 4 жыл бұрын
Just picked up an A1 upper and am looking for a faster twist barrel but I want to keep the retro look. Where did you get yours?
@lawrenceoflawrence9948
@lawrenceoflawrence9948 4 жыл бұрын
Your voice is so NICE
@paulgard7596
@paulgard7596 4 жыл бұрын
The M16A1 my grandpa had in the army(1974) had no forward assist and some parts of it said AR15
@elifoust7664
@elifoust7664 3 жыл бұрын
601
@redtra236
@redtra236 Жыл бұрын
@-YA- 006 No many M16A1s have AR-15 engraved on them but further down on the magwell also say M16A1 Same with the M16 and XM16E1 too though.
@dudebroski9460
@dudebroski9460 Жыл бұрын
I have a 1976 sp1 done up like the airforce 601. It has no compartment but looks like the a1
@marinaferris
@marinaferris 8 ай бұрын
10:31 💅accessories😜🤪 got me laughing
@MasterVideoStudios
@MasterVideoStudios 4 жыл бұрын
Love me some black muskets
@Aptezo
@Aptezo 4 жыл бұрын
MasterVideoStudios yeah, really nice “muskets”
@BladeCaptain-TRMN
@BladeCaptain-TRMN 4 жыл бұрын
I competed with the A1 when I was in Germany from 81 to 84. We never got the A2's but I can tell you that I could easily hit 400 meter targets without any problems. Generally I was a single shot guy, but if I actually had needed to go to full auto, I was also competent enough to control my fire to 3 or 4 round burst. At 100 yards and open sites, I was accurate down to a 2 inch shot group. My biggest complaint was that I didn't have a scope option, so when the rails came out, I was all fan boy wishing... I also wish I could have tried the M-10 daddy to the M-16... 7.62/.308 semiauto love machine with scope.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. There were actually scopes and mounts designed for them, but the military didn't want to spend the money. Look up the Colt 601 scopes.
@BladeCaptain-TRMN
@BladeCaptain-TRMN 4 жыл бұрын
@@MikeB128 Nice! I sure wish we had them in my unit. I would have known as I ended up taking over the Arms Room my last year there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2jMiZKCrb98mNE
@redtra236
@redtra236 Жыл бұрын
Most ACOGs have a removable base and when it's removed they can attach to any M16 carry handle(fixed or removeable) with a thumbscrew. And Colt also sold a special scope that mounted the same way.
@eb-ol4po
@eb-ol4po 6 ай бұрын
The compartment in the pistol grip is where I keep my beef jerky.
@Gchang54
@Gchang54 16 сағат бұрын
As a 6ft dude, i feel the a1 stock length is perfect(for a colder weather set up for when you wear thicker clothing). The a2 stock feels like it was designed to shoot in a bladed stance with thin layer of clothing. I did the sacrilege and put a brownells a1 stock onto my fn m16a4, but im way happier with the setup.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 9 сағат бұрын
Yeah I'm 6'3" and the A2 stock is almost perfect, but the Length of Pull would be problematic for a lot of people. The A1 is just a tad short, but that's splitting hairs. Pretty much the only rule is use whatever works for you.
@shockwave._.8098
@shockwave._.8098 3 жыл бұрын
Is the m16a2 retro now ???
@dlvmil-spec
@dlvmil-spec 2 жыл бұрын
There is a detail difference between the two Port doors. The A1 normally features a port door with a small rectangular pad, while the A2 features a larger squared pad that is actually tapered from front to bottom. This is because some people would not close the ejection port door when closing the rifle after cleaning and would bend or damage the port door. Angling the pad stopped This from happening.
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 2 жыл бұрын
Personally i prefer the m16a1 since its a bit smaller ish
@DuckMallard11
@DuckMallard11 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Brother. Thank you for the info and the entertainment. I'm a late 80's/early 90's Marine. Love the A2. I've built several. Keep up the good work my friend.
@williamallegra1865
@williamallegra1865 4 жыл бұрын
I believe the a1 stock and hand grip were made from bakelite.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
Partially. The Original Model 601s were bakelite then they went to a hyrbrid which was mostly fiberglass.
@barrylongermaname398
@barrylongermaname398 4 жыл бұрын
I hated the A1.. only had it in basic.. but it was worn out and the rifling was as almost gone... plus tearing down the front was a nightmare most of the time... and why black? It was 105 degrees in Missouri... I never got a satisfactory answer to that one...
@brandoncompton8064
@brandoncompton8064 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite myth I heard from my grandfather is the m16 projectile would cut people in half because it "tumbled" when fired. lol
@davidevans1611
@davidevans1611 4 жыл бұрын
It didn't tumble when fired, but did have tendency to tumble on impact inside a body.
@rl-762
@rl-762 3 жыл бұрын
Someone once told me that the a1 rear sight has different heights for the two apertures whereas the a2 have the same heights for the two apertures. Can you confirm?
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 2 жыл бұрын
Well from the side the a2 looks a bit taller.
@redtra236
@redtra236 Жыл бұрын
It's true but the A2 has range adjustment from 300-800 meters. Well most of them anyways some of them still have the older M16A1 sight.
@inhumanfilth681
@inhumanfilth681 4 жыл бұрын
I always wondered about the forward assist, why would you want to jam something into rhe chamber that doesnt want to go? Sounds more like a jam enhancer lol
@saintvalentine4040
@saintvalentine4040 4 жыл бұрын
Inhuman Filth because of the way the m16 cycles it can cause the action to get gummed up and that can cause the bolt to not go forward, the forward assist is kind of a fail safe so if your bolt isn’t going forward you can use that forward assist so you can keep shooting the bad guys
@kimisdaman
@kimisdaman 4 жыл бұрын
That's the intent, but doesn't address the question; if the round is reluctant to go in, does it make any sense to use a mechanical device to force it in? I think a "rearward assist", making it easier to get the reluctant round out of the gun, since there's no obvious op-rod handle to kick, as there is on the M1 Rifle, M1 Carbine, and M14, would be more useful.
@l.w.peterson7507
@l.w.peterson7507 2 жыл бұрын
@@kimisdaman You don't always have time. You didn't force the round in, you just barely needed to assist. It was a very delicate gun, ie why a lot of us thought it looked like a matel toy plastic gun. Another reason is we Marines were slobs sometimes. We assisted in that problem because we didn't clean them sometimes like we should . Think rain, mud nasty. LOL Yes it IMHO all was corrected thank goodness. Those M-14 could be drug through mud holes and still clean a 20 round magazine no issue. M-16 not, we had to learn to do better in maintenance and through several upgrades of the M-16 it became outstanding. 1967/1968
@tsechejak7598
@tsechejak7598 4 ай бұрын
unless its called m16a5 full auto with flat top receiver there are a lot of m16a3 around if the flat top receiver is still considered m16a3, however again ive heard it called m16a5
@meekgreek9922
@meekgreek9922 2 жыл бұрын
These weapons are amazing. It took me awhile to really appreciate the design behind the AR-15 platform. I think the only weapon that can compete with it is a Russian made Kalashnikov design or eastern bloc made AK of some kind.
@toweringhorse2054
@toweringhorse2054 Жыл бұрын
That M16A1 wears its patina beautifully
@joeg5414
@joeg5414 6 ай бұрын
I shot an M16A1 to qualify in basic in the Air Force back In 2001. I thought it was so cool. The instructor was like "oh that sucks you got the old one." I was like WTF are you talking about, I got the coolest one. I didn't say that out loud obviously. The struggle I had with getting that damn handguard back on is forever engrained in my memory though🤣
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 6 ай бұрын
Yeah those A1 handguards are a bitch lol.
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